I just finished dusk and god damn I loved every second of it.
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
rugged flame
bold sand
yeah I took some influence from Residue Processing for [Into the Thresher]
@thorn trout Thank you for not including the labyrinth of conveyor belts
crimson folio
still waiting to get Ratto role
I still wonder if bunny hopping can be achieved in the near future in rea llife
crimson folio
I mean, you can jump everywhere you go right now
ebon radish
jump forward at an angle
crimson folio
Just strafe midair
violet orbit
yeah you ain't even gotten the hang of air control and you're asking for bhopping
at least be glad that flipping is IRL
frosty berry
Just fly in midair
ruby cloud
Hey, Dave, you alright?
graceful wing
that dude's never okay
jolly hatch
nice
crimson folio
there he go
bold canopy
Is that homecoming?
small halo
yes
round quail
zoom zoom
crimson folio
Zoom
crimson folio
zoom
rare musk
mooz
crimson folio
Might 'undred percent this one
The soap one's gonna be tedious because that's playing all the levels over again
Dunno the last achievement
glacial holly
Hi
mild ginkgo
hey
crimson folio
Hello
autumn compass
no
crimson folio
yes
zenith flume
-_-
spare cobalt
hehe took me a while to realize what you were supposed to do for that chomper cheevo
thorn trout
bold canopy
eager bluff
I hope Newblood for their next FPS title does non-bullet hit-scan weapons
not many games do that and it would be nice
things like Shogo's Juggernaut
hit-scan weapon with an explosion
there are other combinations that could be done
crimson folio
I really like the non hitscan shotgun they have in arcane dimensions
eager bluff
sure, flak cannons are fun 🙂
but there are other combinations i'd like to see
like imagine the Biorifle from UT, if the projectile was either instant or so fast that it was basically equivalent to being instant.
like how Battlefield actually its bullets move at feet/second instant of being hitscan
the idea would be to have the same hit-scan type behaviour in weapons that is popular with most FPS player, but with some secondary effect
idle wagon
do what i do and make a game without any bullet-firing weapons at all. have machine guns that fire syringes or overgrown tasers that charge thru movement
or a railgun nailgun
eager bluff
I'm not actually sure what you mean
make (mod) what game?
anyway it would be cool if games could have additional effects for hit-scan weapons
than just a little damage if a direct hit occurs or a decal mark on the wall if it doesn't connect with anybody
there are more options than that
teal niche
One question about DUSK:
Build 7_7 never went to the public, did it?
Yep, never went.
First time i see red-eyed rats
Wow, this was even before the sword deflected stuff
crimson folio
@crimson folio which two achievements are you missing?
mild ginkgo
the sword didnt deflect things until episode 3 was available
crimson folio
i love dusk
polar mulch
crimson folio
lots of lactose intolerant people eat cheese and drink milk
rugged spindle
Philosophers have pondered the possible ramifications of that action for millennia.
crimson folio
he'd crap his guts out
coral loom
i've been having an issue getting to E2MS
when i hit the button to open the grate, it just doesn't work for some reason
what am i doing wrong here
thorn trout
devout yew
I can't wait to try that jump map holy shit dusk is about to get wet and wild
livid plume
A friend bought me this for christmas. I'm still getting used to the controls because kb+m FPS is not something I'm familiar with.
Being as I was raised in Ohio, this is a pretty accurate picture of PA.
devout yew
i could try it right now but it's 4:20 AM (nice) and I wish to be alive for work on monday
thorn trout
that is very fair
crimson folio
OH MY GOD
A JUMP MAP
IN DUSK?
I'M GETTING HEAVY TF2 VIBES NOW
DAVID THANK YOU SIR
royal herald
@thorn trout DUSK rocket jumping is kinda wonky tho. Like you can hit your head on a ceiling and then get out from under it then keep going, the height is unpredictable to humans, and a lot of other quirks. Not to say that it's bad, it's super fun and fits DUSK's fast speed, but I don't think rocket jumping would be challenging with the riveter
Are there any changes applied to the function of explosive jumping in it?
cloud quiver
It's just some pogo's , wall jumps and a mortar + riveter jump
It's just a concept map to see if people like it
royal herald
What about teleporters and jump pads and like, limited crossbow ammunition, actually
I take the not challenging part back you could totally make some rad jump maps if you set things up right
cloud quiver
haven't tried much yet i just made it in a few days just for testing purposes, and rn i can't(?) use clip brushes so the player is blocked by a wall but projectiles are not
Which would open up a lot of different jumps to try out
mild ginkgo
Fun map
neat trick at the end
also, small suggestion
when people go to upload a mod on mod.io
i would make sure you distribute it with a description file and a preview file
a description.xml looks like this
<descriptor>
<title>DUSK Base Content</title>
<author>David Szymanski</author>
<content>All</content>
<summary>The base content for DUSK.</summary>
<preview>preview.png</preview>
</descriptor>```this way people can have your author information etc when they go to download your mod
cloud quiver
Oh that's nice
prisma halo
Note that I don't believe you can omit any information from that
for example, you need to have <summary></summary> even if you don't write one
livid plume
People are hyped for Dusk Duck Goose
crimson folio
dusk dusk dude
radiant bough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBK-GOHnFJQ our lad mr icarus has covered the best dusk mod of all time where everyone is our lord and saviour Big John
crimson folio
HUHAAA
crimson folio
Hahauh kill me come on, do it hahah, big John ahauh
slate edge
JUSK JUSK JUSK JUSK JUSK
crimson folio
Insteand of "Hump", It's "HuHA"
bold canopy
The only time it is valid to kill big john is to get 100% on that level
crimson folio
Someone else will have to replace Duskdude's sounds with Caleb's sounds sooner or later.
bold canopy
Someones going to make a mod that replaces possessed soldier sounds with HECU ones
weak nova
sorry for this but:
like 3 weeks ago i was told i'd get more help with my problems on running the game but i still havent...
i'd still very much like to be able to actually play this: https://steamcommunity.com/app/519860/discussions/1/1747892868512728860/
vague egret
I passed it to our internal discord
broken forge
the marauder from doom eternal is just jakob in disguise
short basalt
That's a damn good disguise
jagged ferry
agile geode
Just going to lurk, in general.
Still, going to say this.
I tend to be rather skeptical of most old-school Doom successors. Largely because while most of them do understand the "action" part of Doom, they don't get the "atmosphere" part that made games like Doom 2, Quake 1, or Doom 64 truly memorable.
But one of my friends pushed me to try Dusk, saying that it actually nailed both the action and atmosphere, not just the action.
... and I didn't regret it whatsoever.
I absolutely loved both the fast action and level design, but also the horror elements and general atmosphere. Don't know if others have pointed it out... but the atmosphere and general "feel" of the levels really contributed to me feeling this game is one of the best games I've played in years. And for sure, is the best FPS I've played in a very, very long time.
So yeah, just wanted to drop that. Dunno if it will be read but felt like saying it.
crimson folio
:) wholesome
thorn trout
👍👍👍
bold canopy
I'd say E2M2 has the best atmosphere in the entire game
That opening bit it just really tense
rugged spindle
Personally, I really like the oppressive bleakness of the first part of Blasphemy in E3.
round quail
bruh
devout canopy
Sup dudes, glad to be in the group
mild ginkgo
we're glad to have you here
round quail
crimson folio
Gonna get my mom to play dusk wish me luck
round quail
make her play wendigo encounter 
crimson folio
Maybe once she knows what WASD does 
wanton phoenix
Hey does anyone one know where to get thte halflife maps?
mild ginkgo
/valve/maps in the half life folder
viscid pecan
eager bluff
coop when
opaque spindle
Probably once the sdk is done
crimson folio
Doosk
bold canopy
Doesn't the crossbow already go through walls though?
dim star
that's a Doom mod
bold canopy
Ah
crimson folio
hehe 
ornate sluice
hey guys i dont know if this is the right place to ask this but my buddies and i are dying for co-op but i havent seen any updates on it in a while. is there a timeframe for when itll be released? thanks
jade root
It’s coming. With the alpha release of the sdk that means that it’ll be coming soon
Please wait warmly
jade root
The sdk is out now
But it’s basically a beta
Once it’s complete then you can expect co-op
Cause the sdk is making co-op possible
ornate sluice
ok cool
somber cloud
The boys wasting no time with the highest quality mods, I see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBK-GOHnFJQ
teal niche
@thorn trout you guys should have gave him the sources for the models with the animations (skeleton).
I don't know exactly how it is animated but, it would help tons and would look even better than the rips
Projectiles are manageable, not that hard since its just a simple geometry + textures, but asset explorers can't get the guns + anims
hard fox
I just finished E2M9, and I gotta say that I'm beginning to grow rather distrustful of the End Level doors.
mild ginkgo
i swear they wont hurt you
kind cypress
Does dusk have a switch port?
viral gate
crimson folio
JUST officially beat Dusk Episode 2 yesterday. So satisfying. The Guardian in the prison suit was interesting, is that based on something?
I had started Episode 3 when it first came out but restarting it to enjoy fully.
hard fox
I'm a couple levels into episode 3 now. It's definitely...a departure from the other episodes.
crimson folio
I've played episode 1+2 a bunch but I still haven't dived into 3 yet
crimson folio
3 is probably my favorite, flavor-wise
hard fox
I'm liking three, but some of its enemies make me want to hurt someone.
junior remnant
The Horror
hard fox
Yeah, those are uh, not my cup of tea.
crimson folio
Question
I've picked up the soap and finished every level in dusk
Yet the soap achievement never pops up
Any advice?
simple pilot
r u sure
atomic egret
what about e3ms2
crimson folio
E3M2.......................yeah I did actually
simple pilot
u usually forgot about soap there
atomic egret
no, e3ms2
simple pilot
next to E2MS
atomic egret
yeah dude
crimson folio
There are two secret levels in Episode 3?
That's fucking wack
Never knew that till now
atomic egret
I'm pulling your leg
simple pilot
atomic egret
e3ms2 was a meme zombie started leading up to release
atomic egret
imagine ratacombs
atomic egret
but with more rats
simple pilot
🐀
atomic egret
crimson folio
I didn't do the Secret levels in today's run
Just one question
Do the stats reset everytime you boot up an episode
simple pilot
no
atomic egret
negative
simple pilot
no sir
simple pilot
then repeat that for every level in the game
crimson folio
I did it on Ciero Miedo yesterday
But today I did them on accessible
Because I wanted the s p e e d
prisma halo
wtf gilby e3ms2 is real
crimson folio
E3ms2 is the old endless arena
cold cypress
hello
wanted to share something with you guys but it looks like I cannot share media on this channel
simple pilot
be a rat
prisma halo
@cold cypress File uploads are only allowed for "Rat" ranked users and above
You can post a link though
simple pilot
or use external image host site
prisma halo
You'll get rat automatically by talking in the server
cold cypress
oh, so I can post links, good
thanks
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372105439296618518/671670279591690260/IMG_20200128_114925.jpg
it's a vinyl cut sticker I made at work today
prisma halo
nice!
cold cypress
thanks
crimson folio
Do want
opal plover
It'd be great if you had a pc with a tempered glass window
cold cypress
I actually have... The one I work on here in the company
but
I've turned off the lights
cause I don't like them
:D
I have two laptops with light color cases and I haven't decided yet which one to decorate with the stickers i made
i got quake, doom, nine inch nales logos
my own hanko seal design
oh
yeah
and minecraft logo too
:D
that one was horrible to cut to but it turned out pretty good
tiny wigeon
Still waiting on that Dusk Big Box....
graceful wing
And so is everyone internally :D
Unfortunately I've got no new info to share at this time. Please be patient with us!
jade root
Please wait warmly
worldly beacon
Ever thought that throwable objects in Dusk are overpowered?
opaque spindle
Not really since they're hard to use efficiently
small halo
kinda
they are insanely powerful and can block projectiles but they have plenty of flaws attached to them
not being able to fit in certain areas, smaller objects being harder to catch again, not every object doing sufficient damage, most of them can break, they can be hit mid-throw causing them to veer off course, availability, etc.
metal box does not have most of those flaws and deals 1000 damage tho 
they also don't speed up time with superhot mode
fair and balanced
thorn trout
lol
bold canopy
Its simple
Grab a barrel and throw it in the middle of a crowd
Since it doesn't cause time to speed up, it's easier to detonate it when it's in the middle of the crowd
royal herald
dude the props are also insane cuz you can fly with them
sorry for the edits on this image
but you can get infinitely high with props
that's dusk of the dead
small halo
bitch
crimson folio
owned
crimson folio
That’s so epic
balmy sluice
What if you wanted to climb to heaven, but cultist said no
jade root
What if you went to visit syn and he said Walter alert
tame sandal
yo so im pretty dumb, so how do i install a dusk map
is it like Dusk\maps\bsp file or smth?
spare robin
tame sandal
yeah i just saw that and was typing a statement saying i was gonna move there
spare robin
👍
crimson folio
@thorn trout One question, is the object jumping mechanic also like a semi intended thing hidden in the game for people to find
Sort of like advanced TF2 Rocket Jumping
crimson folio
Epic
Important speedrun tactic
Because it really does say that the game has inspirations from the source engine
thorn trout
oh yeah I love Source games
crimson folio
I've seen one speedrun of portal
Without Portals being used
And they used that mechanic in that run
It was brilliant
It's much harder to pull off in Source but
It's equally taxing here
tiny wigeon
@graceful wing Unfortunately I've got no new info to share at this time. Please be patient with us!
I will be patient. 🙂
I've already got a spot all picked out for Dusk. But, take your time... I know it'll be worth it.
sullen garnet
getting 2 fps on a g-sync monitor, bummer
really weird behaviour, when i alt-tab to another window it runs fine, and it also runs fine on my other 1080p monitor
mild ginkgo
sounds like a configuration issue
sullen garnet
tried switching between window/fullscreen mode, and changing resolution, which didn't help, is there somewhere i should be looking? like a config file?
mild ginkgo
its more likely to be something with your OS/driver settings than the game
sullen garnet
hmm, first game that this has happened with
mild ginkgo
you can try the exclusive fullscreen patch but im not certain that will help
also if you havent already, make sure vsync is off
sullen garnet
turned off g-sync and the problem went away
very strangely, turning g-sync on again afterwards didn't cause the problem to come back
going to try restarting to see if i can reproduce the behaviour, it's weird
sullen garnet
it's just gone now, can't reproduce it
same issue as this person: https://steamcommunity.com/app/519860/discussions/1/3315110799615092135/
if it comes up again, turning off g-sync, running the game, and then re-enabling g-sync seemed to fix it for me
eager bluff
oh yeah I love Source games
I wonder if David (or anyone else at NB) would ever make a game on Source or if he would rather stick with Unity
Practically speaking it makes sense to focus on one engine
but then on the other hand there seem to be developers that get bored of using the same game engine repeatedly
source could have been an Unreal Engine killer but it didn't happen
simple pilot
why Source
faint lantern
just about any engine ever could have been an unreal engine killer up until it couldn't be
also until source 2 come out I don't really see much of a reason to use source 1 over unity
eager bluff
why Source
Just caused David said he liked source games
which usually means they person saying it likes each Source game despite the engine or they particularly like the game engine
just about any engine ever could have been an unreal engine killer up until it couldn't be
also until source 2 come out I don't really see much of a reason to use source 1 over unity
you re right about there being not reason to use Source over Unity until Source2 and i can think of reasons not to, like the licencing fees for the Havok physics engine
im not suggesting making a game with Source is really a good idea, Respawn can makes good games with it but those guys are sort of a magic company
simple pilot
hey i like Blood and Build Engine
but definitely i wouldnt want to develop anything on it seriously
eager bluff
lol
crimson folio
modworkshop.net
does anyone use that except for payday mods
faint lantern
I remember the time it was called lastbullet
also respawn uses source yes but it's a super modified version of it
they replaced the render stuff entirely iirc
I don't know why they bothered using source over like, unity or unreal tbh
crimson folio
Guys
I think I did it
I was missing a soap in E3M8
Turns out I had done it in Offline mode
And the game never registered the soap pickup
Same for the duskbaby achievement
Riperoni
Glad you figured it out tho
I would have had all AGES ago if I didn't realise that
Because I've clearly performed it before
mild ginkgo
You may have done it while cheeves were bugged
Doing them offline should cache your cheeves progress locally until you're next able to connect to the servers
thorn trout
I wonder if David (or anyone else at NB) would ever make a game on Source or if he would rather stick with Unity I've never worked in Source no. @azure coyote however was a Source modder before he started indie development
terse prawn
make and use your own engine to make a game its totally pain free
azure coyote
There’s also the complication that source licenses are a lot more of a pain to get than your typical unreal/unity licenses
And valve tends to take a large cut - of which you’re already giving a large cut to the storefront for
simple pilot
wow i didnt know reb is doing dusk mods
opaque spindle
Nah not yet
My mod is gonna be a riker mod whenever I bother to learn how to replace textures
simple pilot
but you have to learn how to use the file browser
opaque spindle
Yeah I'm just too lazy to dig into it and shit lmao
tardy slate
there's nothing to dig into though???
opaque spindle
Guess I'm a dumbass then lol
I haven't actually looked for them or anything I just assumed it would be harder than it actually is lmao
crimson folio
why teh fug is Reb a dangangan character
opaque spindle
Why aren't u
thorn trout
I haven't actually looked for them or anything I just assumed it would be harder than it actually is lmao naw Zombie made it amazingly simple. If you just want to mess around literally all you have to do is overwrite the texture/sound files. If you want to make a mod for distribution you just create new files in a mod/textures/ or mod/sounds/ folder with the appropriate names
it's super simple
simple pilot
i thought that was HH character/OC
crimson folio
@thorn trout You know in E3M8 right before the teleport and right after the miniaturised shoot out(I'm talking about the large tower right by the duskbaby secret)
thorn trout
yeah
crimson folio
Considering that mission was basically a mishmash of previous experiences and missions in the game
The tower coming from the Preprepreprealpha build
What does the tower exactly signify
And like where was it originally intended to be used in the game (since I was never able to come across it)
thorn trout
nothing specifically, except that it's a bit of a meta gesture. You're not just revisiting old levels you're revisiting the history of Dusk, sorta thing
crimson folio
Since you're going down the stairs?
Yeah I get that
Episode 2 and three enemies on the stairs
And a scarecrow in the opening of the tower
That's some decent storytelling conveyed through just enemy placement
I'll take notes on that thanks
thorn trout
👍
pine imp
how do you download mods?
simple pilot
you click download
pine imp
ah thanks bro
simple pilot
no problem bro
round quail
crimson folio
lol i've been using that skin for a few months
its great
pretty sure the creator of it is still in this server
formal atlas
hey, so I downloaded NUTS.WAD mod (had to) but I have no idea how to run it, can anyone help plz lol
oh sorry, there's a dusk mod channel
eager bluff
There’s also the complication that source licenses are a lot more of a pain to get than your typical unreal/unity licenses:
It wasn't a suggestion. Unreal/Unity I think are the obvious choice for most developers, with Unity in particular if the title isn't a AAA funding level project.
Unreal engine seem to be for mid sized developers trying to "punch above their weight" with some really awesome (Hellblade) and really bad (Agony) results.
opaque spindle
I'm disaapointed you could have said "and really agonizing results"
brisk lagoon
Any engine is only as good as the developer using it... or the source code that's available. 
eager bluff
with infinite resources any engine would be good as any other, but since all developers operate on tight budgets, engine flexibility and functionality are paramount
jaunty pewter
hi
crimson folio
Ello
jaunty pewter
anyone still play...lol
simple pilot
i believe lol has incredible active player count in state of 2020
jaunty pewter
looking to join any server, but only one shows up.... empty...lol
I love this game BTW
vague egret
edgy lion
We back bois we back
trim violet
I just finished the game yesterday. Hooo boy!
edgy lion
I’ve been waiting 86 years for a Dusk 2
spare robin
fingerbones 2 yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa
simple pilot
I lost my virginity The Saga
crimson folio
Take my money David
thorn trout
Who says it's a videogame
graceful wing
it better not be
brisk lagoon
Dusk 2: Now available as a coloring book.
crimson folio
no hatsu is making new blood cart not tm
final estuary
New blood kart 2
graceful wing
nah hatsu has nothing to do w the comic
totally different people w totally different drawing styles
crimson folio
put hatsu on the gloomwood comic
spare robin
hands
obtuse garnet
Has any new info been released for dusk on consoles, just curious?
obtuse garnet
I will probably pick it up for Switch, and Xbox one.
crimson folio
Oh boy DUSK on the go? Sign me the fuck up
cold bay
MUSK
trim violet
Elon MUSK
cold bay
when you have technically been on a server for about a year but its not your most active one so you still dont have a rank 🤪
vague egret
Fix it
cold bay
😕
vague egret
cold bay
brisk lagoon
If zombie elephants get added, can we call it TUSK?
graceful wing
absolutely, positively not
brisk lagoon
crimson folio
shame, without zombie elephants the game would just be a HUSK
graceful wing
warning, you are about to lose subscriber
crimson folio
can't lose what you don't have
graceful wing
😉
wise lance
Could someone please help me
crimson folio
with?
crimson folio
simple pilot
Dusk\SDK\mnt\local
wise lance
thanks
mild ginkgo
crimson folio
I gotchu 500
mild ginkgo
ty
near tinsel
So I was about to install some mods and noticed that the SDK folder leads into a folder with all of the game's music files in it, including the songs that aren't on the soundtrack, and songs that simply don't play at all.
Interesting that E1M1 and E3M7 have action tracks that you never hear simply because they never play.
mild ginkgo
yeah theres lots of content that did not make the final cut of the game
crimson rover
where's that SDK folder? Does it come with the game?
spare cobalt
You can access the SDK with the following Steam beta branch code: oohatinybarn
check #dusk-modding first pin on the channel when you scroll down pins
hell, check all the pins
crimson rover
thanks!
unborn lance
Do you need the UNWORTHY achievement to get True 100%?
'cause that's the only thing I can think of.
unborn lance
True 100% just states "Earn the 'Completionist' award in every level"
spare cobalt
ahh
spare cobalt
yea you dont need other awards
but its easy as hell to miss a map
dont think its the cause anymore but when dusk launched everyone had to complete e1 and e2 levels again for cheevos to recognize it even tho level select said its done
same with soap
unborn lance
Soap worked on grab, but I'm seeing if relaunch helps with True 100%
unborn lance
Unless I'm somehow missing a 34th level
spare cobalt
dont think so if you have all secret levels
unborn lance
Yeah no, the achievement just isn't working
balmy sluice
what do you mean?
unborn lance
I've got Completionist on every level, yet True 100% is still locked, which makes me think I need the UNWORTHY achievement as well
unborn lance
It might be because I'm on the SDK build?
Not the SDK exe of the game, just the branch
unborn lance
That bot always posts at the most inconvenient times
mild ginkgo
you probably got some of the completion medals before the patch that fixed it and havent gotten back to get them again
it was previously bugged but has now been patched
unborn lance
When was this patch?
slow harness
@unborn lance have you picked up soap in every level?
unborn lance
Yeah I have the soap achievement @slow harness
slow harness
Bruh I'm not asking the soap achievement
You picked up soap in EVERY level? @unborn lance
viscid pecan
ur ugly
unborn lance
I would assume so
The last level I had to pick it up was E2M10
Was just a matter of finding it
mild ginkgo
uh a while ago
maybe october or november
theres an easy way to check which levels you are missing if youre willing to try Steam Achievement Manager
spare cobalt
if you know the levels replaying doesnt take that long
I had no idea which levels I had completed before cheevos came and what I hadnt. Started from the beginning and with a bit of luck it was something like e1m9
opaque spindle
Bots don't get rights
winged otter
slate edge
that framerate
bold canopy
It's a nuts.wad, the poor framerate is part of the experience
sour stratus
I cant seem to find this mentioned anywhere. Where do you extract mods?
cloud quiver
SDK/mnt/local
sour stratus
Is that a separate download? I have no SDK folder in the Steam Dusk and no separate SDK in Steam tools
cloud quiver
mild ginkgo
sour stratus
Ahh thanks
Still no SDK... There wasn't even a download after switching. Is this not available for the Linux port?
cloud quiver
not yet
tardy slate
did
ICARUS PLAYED MY MAP
..and it's the shitty 15-minute one
and not my actual maps
god damnit lol
sour stratus
Hah nice I see some of the Linux files in the tree
This the right structure? https://i.imgur.com/7Y4ZFWa.png
mild ginkgo
yeah
sour stratus
Even on 640 by 480 this is about what I expected
:D
I think I'm getting negative FPS
Seconds per frame
@tardy slate I'd say I love it but I physically can't even play it, so I guess that makes it great
;)
tardy slate
well at least people like it
(even tho the original idea isnt even mine)
sour stratus
I just realized does the windows version at the end of the fake boot screen play the Windows 7 startup sound
I was like "I swear this wasn't here before", and yeah it isn't there on Linux
slow harness
the audio is reversed in nbreflect ewwww
if there's a horror to the right of you you will hear him to the left of you
poop game
unborn lance
@mild ginkgo Took a look at the achievements manager, and I guess I missed some levels in E1 even though all of them are marked as completed?
4063 vs 4095, my guess is that each goes up by an amount and 4063 means 1 more level or something
crimson folio
mild ginkgo
@unborn lance yeah I think that's e1m6?
crimson folio
Can't get pass Episode 3
cant select anything in ep3
did you try clicking new chapter instead of level select
k
i
am a fool
ty
is that a bonus level in episode 2 where the cursor is?
or secret w/e
torpid locust
ye
bold canopy
You mean the priestess?
vast tangle
Oh man, wait until you get to that level
royal herald
medicine cabinets
one for your hygiene products, the second for treating illness/sickness, and the other the drugs david was on when he made that episode.
no offense but ep3 is pretty wild
crimson folio
@bold canopy uhh nah the one with flame sword
bold canopy
Yeah, those are priestess's
bold canopy
They aren't that bad
If anything all they are, are bullet sponges
bold canopy
Wait until you meet a horror
unborn lance
@mild ginkgo That was it, thanks.
violet orbit
dusk endboss get
GG boys
never did find 👶 secret
I see only 13% of players have the "Thanks!" cheevo as opposed to 20% for the "Only the beginning" one
RIP
crimson folio
dw man everyone loved the game and appreciated it despite not watching le credits
crimson folio
is there a world record on endless duskmare on the farm?
abstract portal
@violet orbit that's because majority of people buy the game that is on sale and don't even play them
just...look at the Ionm Fury achievements
only 38.9% of players stepped out of the bar in the 1st level
22.4% of players received the Altar of Sacrifice, the part where you get ambushed and need to defend yourself
spare cobalt
yea thats pretty common
abstract portal
the further ya go with bosses, the less players received the achievement for killing em
spare cobalt
remember reading destiny 1 cheevos on PSN and wondering how the fuck people buy AAA games and dont even get to the middle part
abstract portal
Security Droid - 16.5%
Plane boss- 14%
Twins - 5.8%
violet orbit
yeah, that's kind of endemic to a lot of games
spare cobalt
also its been common knowledge for years that people buy more games than they play
violet orbit
i just find it funny that people would nope out of the credits considering how short they are
spare cobalt
hehe
abstract portal
that reminds me
i have to finish Tomb Raider 1
i really don't wanna redo the game from the beginning in the future and i've finished TR2 a few weeks ago
bold canopy
One game I have, only 2 thirds of people who own it have beaten the first boss
And only 1.4% have done it on the hardest difficulty
swift tangle
prob been asked a million times but how do i install mods
tardy slate
pinned messages in dusk-mods channel
crimson folio
But SOON™️ isn’t dead yet because of leons next game
crimson folio
amid evil 2 ez
wheat zinc
Its gonna be a remake of dusk
rugged spindle
Dusk: Battle Royale
mild ginkgo
nah but what theyre making is cool
and you should definitely keep an eye out for it
itll be quite a while yet
sour stratus
@abstract portal hola
abstract portal
Hai bro
crimson folio
What if we made escape from dusk
frosty berry
Anyone else get that satisfying feeling when you deflect a fireball with sickles.
wide lily
frosty berry
It's all in the reflexes.
bold sand
there's an easy way to cheese it though
just step slightly to the side
while holding LMB down
works every time
small halo
could also duck
frosty berry
Yeah but that's l a z y
frosty berry
Yeah that's not lazy
But the deflect is better
Because then you can do intruder mode on Cero Miedo
tropic bramble
hup
wooden spade
sup doods. exactly what folder do I need to put mods in to run them from the Modding option in the Dusk SDK? I looked all over the internet and i can't find the answer
oh shit the read me tells me lol. oops
bold sand
girls, technically
near tinsel
You guys ever get this bug where you have more than 50 shotgun shells?
I'm not complaining, since the shotguns are my favorite weapons in this game. Just though I'd point this out.
bold canopy
I think that only happens if you have a number of shells that's close to 50, and you pick up a shotgun that you equip, instead of just using it for ammo
So if you have no shotgun, or one
And you have 49 shells, you pick up a shotgun and you go to 55
cursive tartan
mild ginkgo
@bold canopy is correct
bold canopy
crimson folio
does anyone have a picture of the dusk cover with the red border which can be found normally in the library?
tardy slate
the miniature one?
crimson folio
yes, thanks!
tardy slate
np
near tinsel
I love that New Blood games look like movie posters in the library
spare robin
I don't like it
crimson folio
I freaking love the bottom text
ebon radish
it's the little things that count
obtuse garnet
awesome posters!
indigo rampart
man, i'm surprised they aren't selling "Movie posters" of Dusk. It would be free money for the people that would want it
crimson folio
I would love to have a Dusk movie style poster in my room
infact I would love physical posters based on the other NB games
jade root
david spinmanski
crimson folio
speen
jade root
digital canyon
peak gull
i dont know why but i only play endless mode on nightmare, anyone else enjoy the torture?
hallow sedge
yeah
crimson folio
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ltybnS7hlM0
Hey this is cool by the way
spare cobalt
I would love to have a Dusk movie style poster in my room
@crimson folio stop giving dave ideas on how to take our money
cloud quiver
Dusk poster pls
harsh wyvern
co-op still coming to dusk for the campain?
spare robin
i can't wait I am baby
harsh wyvern
I wander if it would come with more levels Ill gladly pay for an exansion
maybe"the first few lvls you work the the Neyflephostep(elder god) doing his bidding . as your leash becomes more and more lose you can seek a way out of servitute and other competing gods or old orders and seek to use you to kill the god you serve (like a small pawn in a game of chess)
spare cobalt
whenever that drops and we get info on what it even is
but def wont mind more official dusk stuff
cant wait till the SDK is done
or at least remaining funcs get added
graceful wing
Yea user made coop maps are gonna be supported
spare cobalt
wasnt coop supposed to come packaged with SDK when its done?
graceful wing
Somewhere around that time
blazing perch
Who can I talk to, to get some help with learning how to code the quake like movement Dusk has, in the game i'm developing? I'm coding in C++ unfortunately, and not C#.
royal herald
@blazing perch C# has pretty much identical syntax to c++, if you know c++ you know c#. I never had to study or change anything when I picked up csharp.
If you intend to make movement systems you'd best pick an engine and search up a relevant tutorial. once you know the basics from there you can make new stuff. That's at least what I've been doing and it seems to be working.
blazing perch
So I'm rather new to coding. I'm using the engine "Godot".
crimson folio
I mean I would recommend to go and look on the quake sourcecode
prisma halo
C# has pretty much identical syntax to c++, if you know c++ you know c#. I never had to study or change anything when I picked up csharp.
I wouldn't go that far, in fact that can be a rather dangerous statement to teach someone
For example, C# has a concept of a "destructor", but it's completely different to what a destructor is in C++ despite having the same syntax
And if you use it like a C++ destructor, you'll give yourself nothing but problems
C# also has distinct differences between the class and struct keywords (in C++ both of those are rougly equivalent to C#'s struct, they just differ in the default member visibility)
Misunderstanding how destructors work in C# actually lead to a really bad bug in the third party Steam API wrapper we used in Dusk
crimson folio
Zombie sends an angry email to a lib Dev again
prisma halo
lmao
queen coral
c# really isn't that equal to C++, it's only surface level similarities (ie being a "{" family language, being OOP, etc)
you're convinced they're not the same the moment you try creating a fucking statically sized array on a class and the compiler spits on your face and calls you a dipshit
also fuck headers
queen coral
idk, C++ does a lotta things I both love and hate, could do with some better std libraries, could do with less of... whatever the fuck is that compiler errors use to insult your momma when something goes wrong
and not take 30 years to compile shit
prisma halo
It has some good things, but for me personally the bad outweighs the good
I'm fine in my comfy corner with pure C
queen coral
I'd still go with C++ instead of C# when needed tho
prisma halo
Dunno, modern C# under .NET Core has some pretty nice performance metrics
The main things I find useful about C++ are operator overloads, which are very useful for say, making a fixed point number type
Or making math-related types like vectors and matrices more comfortable to use
If performance is a concern it's usually nothing I can't achieve in regular C with some design changes
queen coral
that with some metaprogramming is p. good to simplify some very specific code
that sometimes can be necessary to achieve perf. on very limited setups
prisma halo
yeah
queen coral
this is an example I like to use of this: https://gist.github.com/JohnnyonFlame/21f6230e518c680dcec1a2803be43dda
you can see the disassembled code on the bottom
queen coral
it generates some VERY neat machine code
prisma halo
but yeah that's definitely a case where it's very useful
queen coral
the generated code is just as good as the unreadable bit fiddling weirdness
blazing perch
Got bored and made a Dusk poster of my own cause why not 
I took some liberties from the other one obviously and just reused it on this
mild ginkgo
nice man
crimson folio
Yeah we love you bud
royal herald
wait isn't that
don't we have that image already somewhere
also @prisma halo yeah I know they're different but fundamentally they're very similar, me going from full time c++ software development to c# unity indie development wasn't a huge change for me
the differences show up when you go a bit deeper than what I think he wanted
prisma halo
depends on the kind of code you're writing
blazing perch
@royal herald Yeah, I just wanted to do that same style with a different picture 😛
Like I said,
I took some creative liberties from the other
royal herald
I don't mean like the red outline, the drawing in the middle, that's what confused me
blazing perch
oh yeah
thats not mine
Idk who made it
Whoever did I can give credit... just need to find them
Ok... it's made by New Blood
I just stretched it out and made it fit into a poster
prisma halo
We didn't make it, we commissioned it https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PrvAB
blazing perch
😮
Yeah the one i found didnt even have the bottom portion of it
https://imgur.com/a/N8jIwt1 Yeah I had to do this to it
@prisma halo
prisma halo
oh god lol
prisma halo
I can sort of notice it at the top in the poster
blazing perch
Are you sure... I didn't think anyone would notice
prisma halo
Well I only noticed because now I know what to look for lol
blazing perch
nah im joking
I did the stretching on purpose
Kind of like the death stranding text... crap... where it drips. I thought of doing it upwards
Then I took the logo for dusk and added a rust texture to it... then a rust pattern to it... then a bunch of glow and stuff to make it look nice 🙂
prisma halo
It's somewhat reminiscent of a super early version of the logo
Don't have the image on hand though
blazing perch
prisma halo
Even earlier
blazing perch
Not sure if i posted it here but i even kinda took liberty of the shotgun reload animation 😐
prisma halo
blazing perch
OH that one
prisma halo
in the SDK it's under textures/ui/title_text.png
blazing perch
damn
That is extra old
I even did a bolt action rifle...
https://imgur.com/Wbki8Ow
prisma halo
ah
blazing perch
Gonna (try to) mix Quake like movement with dusk like combat
Call it HellBent
Only issue is... is trying to code in quake like movement. I have normal movement, now I just need to figure out how to translate code that basically does the same as the QuakeC code does in Quake... from C++ to GDscript
prisma halo
Quake movement is pretty simple to implement
afaik the actual movement isn't exposed via QuakeC though
it's hardcoded
blazing perch
Please help me
blazing perch
see the thing is. I found someone elses code on Github that has already translated that code into C++
prisma halo
PM_GroundMove is probably the place to start
It's C code so there'd be no real need to translate it to C++
blazing perch
The issue I'm currently facing is now taking that and turning it into GDscript for Godot
prisma halo
I have no experience with GDscript so I couldn't help there
The C code linked above is pretty simple though so I don't imagine it'd be too hard to figure out
blazing perch
It's like a mixture of C, C++, Rust, and then GDscript to bind them together
prisma halo
At the bottom of that file there's a function called PlayerMove, which is the main function for player movement, so if you start translating from there it should be mostly smooth sailing
blazing perch
🙏 Thank you
btw... this is what it looks like so far... basic bare bones
https://imgur.com/Xm2mhXy
prisma halo
gotta start somewhere
royal herald
it took me like 6 months from learning unity to having a fully working movement system
also the fall speed seems somewhat aggressive
is the video sped up?
royal herald
It just seems like your gravity begins to pull down faster than quake/source-ish games, which is fine but you said you wanted to replicate them.
blazing perch
yes and no
I don't want a perfect replica
But I want something that feels like it so someone who has played quake can get a grasp on it rather quick
royal herald
Well, I typically consider myself a quake player and the gravity was the first thing I noticed is all. It's not bad though, just seems weird to me I guess
crimson folio
Hello
mild ginkgo
Hi
mild ginkgo
Wow
spare robin
Awesome
crimson folio
@mild ginkgo have you learned your lesson
simple pilot
he's muted
ebon radish
god i love e2m9's ambient track so much, it reminds me of that one quake song with the whispering voices in the beginning
proven lichen
small halo
ebon radish
i definitely want to see someone make a chase sequence map with big john trying to run dusk dude over with a combine harvester
while he's shouting his lines muffled by the sounds of the tractor
oh and he's drinking a monster as well
and his boss theme blares from a boombox in the distant background
tractor noises RRRRRRRMMMMMMMMMMMMM
crimson folio
Oh boy I can’t wait for Vinny vinesauce to do a full playthrough of DUSK right?
viscid pecan
is he planning to?
crimson folio
I can proudly say,I am making the tractor.
For Big John,it is a bit harder to do that in a general level editor,but lul.
ebon radish
his textures are in the dusk wad so it shouldn't be too difficult, just gotta align things a bit
man I wish we had sounds so we could do immersive tractor rrrr'ing
cloud quiver
we got advanced sounds
faint lantern
@proven lichen vinny played dusk multiple times on stream iirc
violet orbit
because you know the last statement to be true?
small halo
wtf is Strafe
violet orbit
It's actually a roguelike so it's more like... better Paranautical Combat or whatever that one was called.
small halo
if strafe is bad dusk how is it better than dusk 😳
violet orbit
As sort of a corollary to bloomwood, I amend my statement too, they're all roguelikes.
Picking up the soap in Dusk total Rogue moment.
1 HP from sinks, very Rogue.
vast tangle
...I see we have a new meme "hot take"
final estuary
this ain't nothing new lmao
queen coral
"hot takes" are an all time meme honestly, goes way back, even further than arm crossing rantsonas
violet orbit
Zeno of Elea was the original hot take machine. Big props to this philosopher King.
thorn trout
Imagine thinking features are glitches smh
ebon radish
what's the syringe and crossbow do together
frank flume
The syringe greatly enhances the recoil of the crossbow while time is slowed. One shot can send you flying across a room.
ebon radish
oh yeahhh i remember that happening in e3m9 a good few times
i was wondering why that was happening
hollow musk
I wonder if the dusk team is looking for interns of devs. dream job
queen coral
wait what
jade root
the guy that @eternal fulcrum posted
every time we updated the game with a new episode
he would leaves hundreds, and i mean HUNDREDS, of steam posts about every little nitpick and bug
english isnt his first language either
so i remember i asked him to like, be reasonable and just put them all into one big steam post
and he essentially told me to fuck off
told me he wasnt going to test the game for us
and then made another 20 or so posts of bugs he found
queen coral
but honestly, that's a "reasonable response" when it comes to the god damned steam community posts
opaque spindle
Who is this guy?
opaque spindle
didnt see the image before it was deleted lol
jade root
it isnt deleted
opaque spindle
Yeah im tryin to find out so I can look it up fucko
opaque spindle
opaque spindle
holy shit
queen coral
he seems to really like the game tho, I guess it's just one of these steam comm things
opaque spindle
hes not wrong
Dusk and Amid Evil broken games
Strafe perfectly polished masterpiece
eternal fulcrum
Bruh
jade root
whats popping, gamer
fleet elm
I'm so stupid how does this modding API work?
eternal fulcrum
I didn't know this guy has been doing that for a while
I've never seen him before despite being active
He said on another forum that amid evils level design was bland
Then he added me
jade root
yeah he's out there
fleet elm
Is there a way to install dusk mods automatically using this API or do I have to do it manually?
devout verge
Is there a good room to talk
specifically about Speedrunning?