#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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empty quail
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true

jagged ferry
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nuts.wad would be every wave and the bosses at once

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and then some

empty quail
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the exit is guarded by 50 big johns and 200 small johns

jagged ferry
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and 75 littlenecks

empty quail
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2 one as manys

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and then a singular cowgirl but it has the model size of a rat but it's hitboxes are still the same

tawdry cloak
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Yay SDK soon :)

crimson folio
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No

lavish crescent
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Hmmm. Replayed Nameless City yesterday.

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All I can think to say on the matter is I wish we were getting an EP 4.

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Even though I had already played it I found myself jumpscared by those little spindly monster things during one of the flashlight broken segments. Which is impressive not on Dusk's part but on mine for being such an easy to spook loser.

tulip osprey
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the red monster in EP 3 is defiantly a work of good atmosphere and set up

muted jolt
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real reason jakob started the cult

final estuary
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Bruh

lavish crescent
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That's adorable

cloud gazelle
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“pretend you’re Obed Marsh...”

vast tangle
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"I'll tell you how I scored big with Shub-Niggurath"

crimson folio
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"To be continued in HDusk"

short basalt
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"Ask her out to watch a movie or a play, heard that 'The King in Yellow' is pretty good"

spare robin
vast tangle
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(offtopic) That motherfucker ruined my last Farmstead run in Darkest Dungeon (end of offtopic)

spare robin
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How

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move it to gamin

final estuary
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Real darkest dungeon gami_g

slow harness
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Just finished dusk. Such an experience!

short basalt
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headcanon, dusk and darkest dungeon exist in the same continuity

final estuary
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Darkest Duskgeon

short basalt
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Duskest Duskgeon

final estuary
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Duskdusk Duskdusk

jagged ferry
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DARK

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DUNG

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no wait

final estuary
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Dark dung

crimson folio
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Dark Dong

spare robin
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dusk is out haha

crimson folio
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oh yeah

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@vague egret update shillbot with SDK SOON

vague egret
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You don't tell me what to do.
Ur not my real dad

short basalt
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no...

i am your father

ruby swift
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Would you kindly release the SDK very SOON?

jade root
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Eventually™️

jagged ferry
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kindly status: would you

dawn inlet
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hey uh does anyone have a link to the piece of art from the latest DUSK announcement relating to the game of the year vote?
for some reason the new steam client won't let you view images

mild ginkgo
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@dawn inlet

dawn inlet
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you are WORTHY

royal herald
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ah so I'm not the only one who has issues with images loading on steam rn

slow olive
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Really curious

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I guess the comic will expand the lore and not just focus on what's in the game

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Cause these characters ive never seen

woven elm
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is that mama in the bg?

neon dove
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Is there gonna be a...Duskmas thing?

crimson folio
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I put 14 hours into dusk and 100%ed it in steam

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all 30 achievements

mild ginkgo
crimson folio
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in the course of 5 days too

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I’m working on going through it on cero miedo rn, I was doing I can take it before

paper oyster
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how easy will the sdk be to learn, based off of zero knowledge on coding?

charred terrace
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No coding required for whats included in the first build of the SDK as far as I know, since you cant make custom weapon, etc. behavior

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Trenchbroom is pretty easy for maps. I dont really have much experience as far as textured and models go but those probably wont be too complicated for this game's graphical standard

jade root
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You will need some prior coding experience for more advanced stuff

vague egret
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watch quake modding tutorials on youtube. probably the best start

jade root
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Lol

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Quake modding

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You’re cute, lain

jagged ferry
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lol

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existing

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You're cute, jab

jade root
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Thanks I try

crimson folio
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dumptruck_ds made tutorials that cover just about everything you need to know with mapping on TrenchBroom

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TrenchBroom also has documentation on most of its features, though. So don't forget that

runic vortex
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I don't know where to go to ask this, so if someone can point me in the right direction that would be great.
But, I'm trying to stream Dusk on Discord, to show off the game to a friend. But discord HATES this game, it just doesn't show ANY video at all. No matter if I'm in fullscreen or windowed

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Oh and, I'm trying to stream the game, not my desktop, I want sound to come through.
Any tips?

mild ginkgo
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Hmm, im not sure on that one

graceful wing
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I think that's a common issue with unity games

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Some of them just don't play nice with discord streaming

runic vortex
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Has anyone gotten them to work before? I really wanna show off Dusk to my friend lol.

subtle bear
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it was working for me earlier today, though i didn't really do anything to set it up like that

runic vortex
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I can stream it by just streaming my desktop, but discord doesn't stream the desktop audio ofc. I guess Discord just hates me? :/

slow olive
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@runic vortex there's always steam streaming

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And usually discord streaming works if i put it in windowed

runic vortex
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I could always try steam Streams, Its hard enough to stream ANYTHING on discord for me, purely because I'm based in AUS, and my internet is garbage. No better then Dial-up shit.
But other games still work anyways. So I don't know why its just me? But streaming on Steam will have to be the way I guess. Thanks

graceful wing
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Can't really say

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Discord streaming is kinda weird in general

crimson folio
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Can’t stream gzdoom worst app.

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How hard is it to capture a fuckin window

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Not sure.

simple pilot
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add exec to game list

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its that simple

rare musk
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Bit late but from my experience, Discord streaming just doesn't tend to work reliably for aussies, from either end. I've known several people from around the country, myself included, that can neither reliably go live nor watch streams.

crimson folio
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Australia 👎

slow olive
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Bro just move

rare musk
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Yeah

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Nah

crimson folio
woven elm
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s c r i p p

olive cloud
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s c r i p p c r i s p i n t o d u s k

opaque spindle
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Except scriptin doesn't come until later AvainSip

terse prawn
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Still waiting for a godot/unreal remake

olive cloud
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yea

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we can still do cool maps and stuff

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and edit textures so i mean it's alright

crimson folio
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fug u reb I make my own scriptin

final jacinth
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Friend asked me what’s the max FOV in Dusk, I said it’s called cynical. But what’s the number? Same for AE

mild ginkgo
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150 for dusk

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i forget ae's off the top

final jacinth
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Thank ya!

crimson folio
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Bruh moment off topic but picking up from this morning: I haven’t actually tried to figure out to stream gzdoom and I was mostly just fucking around

runic violet
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I cant seem to mention a user about something here.

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And every little reference gets auto removed. It was something nice to say the least.

jade root
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Lemme see what yer typing

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PewDePie

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That’s what was getting filtered

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(The correct spelling of his name)

simple pilot
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PewDiePee

vague egret
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we filtered it because of real world drama surrounding the name. drama we wont discuss here but theres your reason

jade root
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We should prolly unfilter the name now tbh

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Up to you tho

vague egret
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.fw PewDiePie

hollow ivyBOT
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LainP7#0001 Removed word pewdiepie from the list of filtered words.

royal herald
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what's pewdiepie got to do with dusk

jade root
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According to @runic violet message, he mentioned it

opal oyster
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How was everyones thanksgiving

stone quarry
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Wait is the main bad guy in dusk really cthulu or was that just a meme?

jade root
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@stone quarry the main antagonist of dusk is Nyarlothotep

crimson folio
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aka Stephen weyte

stone quarry
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Oh alright

jade root
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Jacob is the guy who talks to you through the entire game, as he’s the cult leader and deuterantagonist

stone quarry
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I beat the game. I just wasnt sure if it was actually supposed to be cthulu or inspired by him

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My first assumption was it was a madeup evil thing

jade root
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Oh no nyarlothotep is another creature in the Cthulhu mythos

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Nyarlathotep is a character in the works of H. P. Lovecraft and other writers. The character is commonly known in association with its role as a malign deity in the Lovecraft Mythos fictional universe, where it is known as the Crawling Chaos. First appearing in Lovecraft's 19...

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Quake has shubniggurath
Dusk has nyarlothotep

crimson folio
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both actual lovecraftian things

jade root
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Mhm

stone quarry
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Oh my god during the encounter it literally says his name lol. I didnt notice

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I was probably too busy getting my ass pounded to notice

jade root
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Lol

grave barn
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hot

runic violet
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@jade root i thought it was El Osch and dev the words that got filtered.

crimson folio
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sup

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i just came to ask

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is sdk or multi out?

simple pilot
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What multi

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You mean Duskworld?

blissful mesa
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@crimson folio the sdk is coming out soon(tm) and there is deathmatch but no coop yet

small halo
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guys is dusk out on GoG yet

royal herald
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an evolution of the "DUSK IS OUT" joke

graceful wing
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has been for a while

charred terrace
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Does the "THING" that's gonna happen on stream for the 1 year anniversary on the 10th have anything to do with the SDK?

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by "THING" I mean what dave mentioned on twitter

crimson folio
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No it's a Dev commentary of dusk

charred terrace
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ah ok

graceful wing
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no announcements

crimson folio
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David's gonna play thru it on stream

charred terrace
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ok cool I'll have to make sure I remember to watch then

opaque spindle
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Andrew and Dave might be tagging along but thats not set in stone David will do the stream by himself if he has to

jade root
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with all the nb mods as guest appearances

opaque spindle
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gonna come in and get the stream banned

crimson folio
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Dusk is almost a year old if I’m correct

drowsy oriole
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Yeah, on the 10th.

crimson folio
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Ye

crimson folio
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I missed the stream damn

spare robin
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?

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oh the test stream

crimson folio
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Ye

slow olive
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When is the dev commentary happening

thorn trout
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Dec 10th

slow olive
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Nice

toxic elbow
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at least nyarlothpotep actually attack you and cant be killed, which make sense in the lovecraftian lore

gaunt haven
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dusk sdk
it's happening my dudes

final estuary
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yes we know

spare robin
blissful mesa
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I wonder how fast david can speedrun his own game

graceful wing
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Very slow

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David bad at video

blissful mesa
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Shame that

thin sphinx
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david maybe bad at video but man can that man kick my ass in risk

hasty breach
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dusk teaches bad advice towards smoking

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also is the cigar affected with increased fire rate?

crimson folio
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No, I don’t think so.

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I can confirm it isn’t

short basalt
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should be

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we also need dual cigars

short basalt
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twice the cancer

crimson folio
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So not sdk yet or coop

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then see ya in 3 months

viscid pecan
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The Diamond. mariaDENTIST

woven elm
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dual cigars is a must

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as well as cigar spinning

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The The Diamond heist is sick btw

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only managed to stealth it maybe twice on deathwish

spare robin
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diamond heist or the diamon

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d

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those are different

woven elm
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the latter

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good point

spare robin
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ok yeah

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stealth is ridiculous on the diamond

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I prefer diamond heist

woven elm
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can help you fam

spare robin
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nah

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don't play payday anymore

woven elm
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A guy with sensor mines helps a lot

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me neither, come to think of it

spare robin
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I already beat 90% of the game

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it's like

woven elm
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it reminds me of when I was at uni

spare robin
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either try to beat everything on death sentence

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one down

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or don't

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and I decided don't

woven elm
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Nice game to play with friends whilst you're a little bit waved and munching on food

spare robin
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I think the only loud heist I ever completed DSOD was the hardcore henry one

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where you get dna samples

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and then have to take the data to the boat

woven elm
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I don't know what that one is

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there's a lot of new stuff I haven't looked into

slow harness
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Boiling Point?

spare robin
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yea

hasty breach
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time to slowly cig spam back to full health to cheese endless mode

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its 1hp every 5 seconds but a wiki on it ssays a long time

short basalt
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wiki is pretty dead

jagged ferry
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just like my soul

short basalt
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d'aww, lighten up a bit, we're filthy gamers, and as such dark souls is right up our alley, not dead souls

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dead souls is not even a part of the souls franchise

hasty breach
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f

hasty breach
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oki so if dusk cig regens every 5 seconds i can top up my hp in up to 3:50 seconds

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if my hp was 1

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12 hp every minute doesnt sound too bad

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wait

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uhh

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i did the math wrpng

jagged ferry
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3:50 seconds?

hasty breach
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its 8:15 seconds of cig spamming

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im super off

jagged ferry
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8 minutes 15 seconds seconds

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what

hasty breach
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ok thats your fault

jagged ferry
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bruh

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it's your quote

hasty breach
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8:15 seconds?

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i dont think that is off

jagged ferry
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(8 minutes 15 seconds) seconds

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it IS 495 seconds

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which is 8 minutes 15 seconds

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but that's not 8 minutes 15 seconds seconds because 8 minutes 15 seconds seconds isn't a thing

hasty breach
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im lazy cant i just put one unit of time and leave it be?

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and still be able to indicate minutes from seconds?

jagged ferry
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no

hasty breach
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crap

jagged ferry
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and for your suggestion you are now reach

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now be

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G l a s s e d.

hasty breach
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ill make a formula for cig spam regen

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not too hard

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although i want to use it with my current health value instead of having to figure out how much health is left

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wait ok i found out

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100-x is a nice start

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5(100-x)/60 is probably the formula

jagged ferry
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for what

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the time in minutes?

hasty breach
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cig spam time

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so basically how long itll take to regen using the cigar

jagged ferry
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it'd probably be better to have it in seconds and just leave it at (100-x)5

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with x being your current health

hasty breach
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i put it first so i can then divide the time by 60, giving me the time in minutes

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although the number will be a decimal

jagged ferry
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but why do you want it in minutes

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🤔

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oh wait

hasty breach
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because its easier on the eyes

jagged ferry
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you also can't use the cig at 100 health or higher

hasty breach
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cig spam is slow

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thats why 100 exists

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because its pointless to use the cigar at 100+ unless you want the zoom feature

jagged ferry
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so it should be (100-x)5 and 0<x<100

hasty breach
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or just use the formula when your health is below 100

jagged ferry
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that's what 0<x<100 is for

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well actually that might need other stuff to be valid

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i haven't done precalc in ages

hasty breach
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ye but you dont need an if statement for that, ill call it off to intuition to see if you need to regen using a cigar

jagged ferry
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implying computers have intuition
WHEEZE

hasty breach
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i mean intuition by human judgement

jagged ferry
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why would a person be using that formula

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wait

hasty breach
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through a calculator

jagged ferry
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why are we discussing a formula for regaining health by smoking in a game about fighting a cult

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...that's how dusk works

hasty breach
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im logging useless information about playing the game

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its useful on endless to see how much time you waste by topping up because you mess up big time

drowsy oriole
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Actually the smoke regen is 4 seconds to the decimal point. Still slow, but I use it to heal up in endless too.

royal herald
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@hasty breach I never spent any time on it.

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The cig regen is so useless that it's easier and faster to just get the health pickups

hasty breach
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yeah but there is only one health pickup in endless and it doesnt spawn after that

crimson folio
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👏 Just don't take any damage 👏

hasty breach
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also my mileage varied because i just kept clicking the mouse button

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no i want to get away with my stupidity

sly path
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It used to just increase your morale.

hasty breach
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i think i remember hearing about that once a bit of time ago

sly path
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Speaking of morale, I used to not know what it actually did.

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Because I'm very dense.

chilly holly
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yo

jade root
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A lot of people weren’t able to put two in two

chilly holly
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sdk when?

jade root
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Very soon

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Please wait warmly

sly path
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I just assumed Morale added to your score.

chilly holly
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no

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im gonna wait coldly

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also

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whats with my name?

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thats better

crimson folio
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CockRichard

chilly holly
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every time i come into this chat you fekers change my name

sly path
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CockyDick.

chilly holly
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thats the joke 😉

sly path
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Oh.

chilly holly
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dikdik

jade root
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I didn’t change it this time

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Idk who did that

chilly holly
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this time

jade root
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Prolly reb

chilly holly
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prolly

jade root
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Or avain

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Avain likes his e-funnies too

chilly holly
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i think i shitposted something about dusk being bad

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and then name changed

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but yeah dusk bad

hasty breach
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thats mean

sly path
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DUSK more like SUKD am I right haha.

chilly holly
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the only true shooter is Dawn

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See someone gets it

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actually reach im gonna steal that joke

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sorry

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its clever

jagged ferry
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it's a pretty old joke tbh

sly path
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Yeah.

chilly holly
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first time i see it

jade root
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See that name change was me

chilly holly
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:C

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also im still a rat and i've been here for a long ass time

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this is unfair bluemana -bluemana

hasty breach
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talk

chilly holly
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but i do

sly path
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Ranks come from activity not being here for long periods.

chilly holly
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feelsbadman

royal herald
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also there is a cooldown on messages

simple pilot
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randomized

runic rapids
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finally got around to dusk

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started on i can take it but then realized it was too easy and played everything on ciero miedo

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I'm now content starved

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I need more

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I think as a quake and blood fan it somehow manages to combine the qualities of both to an extensive degree

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a lot would be reluctant to say this but I think the final product ends up better than either, even if I'll wait a couple years to try and say so publicly

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it definitely stands on its own merits

mild ginkgo
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Glad you enjoyed yourself

runic rapids
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yeah soz if this type of freakout is a bit

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late

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or usual

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needed a place to vent about it a bit

jade root
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Yer way calmer than some other people

runic rapids
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Well good t'know

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is duskworld generally fuller later in the day?

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I hopped in early and it was real lowpop

viral gate
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That's a given with ArenaFPS games

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try using #lfg-signup to get to the Duskworld pickup channel, best to look for games in the evening in your timezone

runic rapids
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righto, thanks mate

chilly holly
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guys

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dusk out

viscid pecan
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how

wraith turret
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Cool

eager bluff
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waiting on coop

wraith turret
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Same

runic rapids
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same tbh

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is NG+ still in the works?

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I saw it mentioned somewhere

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but not sure how that'd even work given difficulties already seem to have different enemy rosters

full sandal
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More weapons?

crimson folio
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  • 🍆
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  • 💦
runic rapids
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Big Johns replace all enemy soldiers

wraith turret
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Big John should be the actual Cult Leader

full sandal
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@crimson folio thats the dream

hasty breach
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wouldnt ng+ just be playing dusk at a higher difficulty with all your weapons intact? like and arcade loop..

slow harness
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no

hasty breach
hasty breach
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ive smoked my way through endless mode lol

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ive had my endless mode running since thursday and ive gone past the 99:59.59 time so it just wraps back to 99:00.00

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because of cig spamming

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i think im at around wave 48

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hey has discord ever screwed you over because you keep retrying

crimson folio
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I wonder what the modding potential for dusk is

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You can mod

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The entire bible in. Then play faith horror pixel game 2018.

jagged ferry
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but not sure how that'd even work given difficulties already seem to have different enemy rosters
they do? i'm fairly sure they don't

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also iirc they said ng+ would have some special abilities

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if one of them isn't a grappling hook i am GOING to cry

hasty breach
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im gonna turn all the enemies into monikas

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and add a zdoom style ammo counter if i could do it

opaque spindle
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well time to remove dusk from my steam account then

hasty breach
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l

slow harness
thorn trout
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no idea, what language you using?

slow harness
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english

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although i was using ukrainian before a strange settings reset i noticed today

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it says i'm using english now

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although the number of boxes in the message is the same as the amount of symbols in "підняти коробку" (pick up the box in ua)

thorn trout
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You might have a busted config file. Maybe try deleting it so the game generates a new one

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either that or a busted localization file, which might involve a re-install (or grabbing a good one from a friend)

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(or lmk and I can provide one)

crimson folio
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it’s showing you boxed when you look at a box, seems pretty straight forward

royal herald
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yeah man just the game telling you that it is a box.

thorn trout
jagged ferry
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i can't tell if this is a proof of concept or if you just ported half life to dusk out of boredom

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neither would surprise me

prisma halo
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it's just c1a0.bsp being loaded in

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you can dump the half life game folders into mnt/local/ and load it as a mod and you can then open the maps

jagged ferry
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🤔

flat juniper
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Porting HL sounds like it would be fun. Only problem is the lack of scripting for a bit though

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some of the interactions would have to be already completed or edited to allow passage

prisma halo
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Yeah

flat juniper
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Maybe I'll do it anyway and just change it when scripting comes out.
Or I'll just leave it, because it will probably give it more a DUSK flow anyway

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god if it comes out this month, that's all I'm going to be doing during break

gleaming berry
cosmic urchin
hasty breach
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i need to stop it bc i dont think its a good idea to make the worlds longest time on dusk survival

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time to play some other game or draw the monika ive been putting off

runic rapids
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p fun

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do the waves start repeating

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after some time

hasty breach
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i think its a bit rng

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i havent seen black phillips since 30min into it maybe

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and all i got was cultists, leathernecks, scarecrows, and fork maidens in different configs

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playing on endless let me experiment with different dual weapon setups

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where i only switch between two weapons/types

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like a ssg/mortar combo

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or riveter/mortar

runic rapids
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Well it's also map dependant I guess

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I play gogatorium a lot

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and I get an absurd amount of bone monks

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every turn

hasty breach
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i just play farm

runic rapids
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farm is a bit not vertica enough for me imo, although I admit gogatorium's bone monk spam can get annoying at some points

hasty breach
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f

runic rapids
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you just end up having to do hunting rifle cleanup before doing the rest of the level

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I've consistently wished the mortar had just

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a bit more range

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for air enemies

hasty breach
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but the foe ive had to fight was the cowgirl so im not too far into dusk yet

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try riveter? wait it doesnt remote detonate

runic rapids
#

yeah

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that's the issue

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I want to use the mortar to like

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destroy air groups with delayed shots

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which I can do but due to short range I need to be sniffing them

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which is deadly given the speed fo their fireballs on ciero miedo

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it's suicide

hasty breach
#

i play on medium difficulty

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i dont think i have the strength to play the higher ones

runic rapids
#

I don't wanna sound elitist but I do feel Ciero Miedo is the "intended" difficulty

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there's a lot about how it is balanced that feels like how the game was originally designed

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health values, timing of projectiles launches, etc

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def give it a try, it's something I feel you grow into as you play

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originally it kicks your ass and then at some point you go

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DOWNLOAD COMPLETE

jagged ferry
#

iirc e1 was balanced on cm and the other 2 on icti

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and cm is canon

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david answered this for me a while back and i'm fairly sure i took a screenshot, let me check

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ok well if i did take a screenshot i have no clue where i put it

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and my discord search is being a moron

thorn trout
hasty breach
#

i should learn modelling now

untold vale
#

This is gonna be so fucking insane...

red lion
#

Spoilers
||So did Dusk a Dude have a family? I just got to E3M7, and the pictures say it all for me...||

jagged ferry
#

||a wife at least, it would seem||

red lion
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||dang, what a chad. Wonder what happened to her. I think they had a child given by the image of his wife and a child. Doesn’t really make sense to me how a treasure hunter sat down and had a family though.||

jagged ferry
#

||who says he was a treasure hunter then?||

red lion
#

||Good point, and I read into it a bit on the wiki. They say they probably died in a house fire so that’s a big oof. I don’t usually like it when protagonists have families because they make it extraordinarily cringe, but Dusk Dude and Kratos can slide.||

ebon radish
#

Man when the SDK comes out I think I might try and do something like brutal doom for dusk lol

#

so much potential with the SDK now its gonna be nuts(.wad)

#

or even better, make it so that dusk dude can quadruple-wield weapons he could previously dual-wield

peak gull
#

so whats intruder mode do when in endless mode?

hasty breach
#

probably nothing

#

because you start with sickles anyways

runic rapids
#

@jagged ferry I feel even past that CM's balancing just feels

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"righter"?

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like priestesses for example

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they die in 3 sword hits

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if your timing is tight

jagged ferry
#

well

runic rapids
#

that's JUST enough

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before they swing

jagged ferry
#

it IS a boomer shooter

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also they die in 1 sword charge

runic rapids
#

true

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but you get what I mean

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even without the charge

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doesn't that feel perfect

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if you're even a moment late

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you get hit

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bone monks being 1HKOs with the hunting rifle, two rivet shots for spookster scarecrows

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it all just feels right

jagged ferry
#

idk i never kill priestesses with an uncharged sword

#

also i

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don't think any of that changes on lower difficulties

runic rapids
#

damage to enemies is tweaked I'm p sure

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the one projectile I think might be a smidge too fast on cm is bone monk fire spam but it works, it just means taking to the air to fight them is suicide

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because they aer much much faster than you airstrafing

slow harness
#

dusk sdk soonm

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i'm cooming

crimson folio
#

I think enemies should have more health

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they die way too fast which makes them underwhelming

#

Cero Miedo is too easy in general

#

Everyone seams to forget David sucks at videogames

royal herald
#

balancing a game with no hitscanners is hard.

#

it's always gonna be easy unless they start doing the bullshit where they aim for where you're going

#

at that point it's not in the spirit of boomer shooters and more of a cover shooter

runic rapids
#

ehn, I don't find Ciero too easy

#

it's not ball busting hard

#

but just tweaking HP values up would be boring as shit

#

Feel adjusting the enemy table would be the right way to make it harder, although if NG+ is still in the works it'd prob be remixes of the maps with slightly different enemy placements and a lot more enemies early

#

there are a few chokepoints in ciero and tehy're all due to enemy placement, not health

#

I prefer the enemies are deadly and me too then having cultists tank three shotgun shots to go down or some shit

#

duskmare has been fun but I feel bone monks are too OP in duskmare

full sandal
#

i'd say for a harder difficulty they should increase the speed of projectiles a tiny bit

#

maybe introduce harder varients of certain enemies

runic rapids
#

I'd be ok with faster projectiles for cultists

#

but everything else feels carefully bvalanced as is

#

I mean bone monk fireballs can't get any faster

royal herald
#

bone ball skulls are the only thing you can speed up and still have balance

crimson folio
#

That flying enemy that shoots skull was really cool and I thought he'd be threat, but he died in three seconds to three double-barrel shots before being able to hit me lol

#

also, most boomer shooters had hitscan that shoot you exactly where you are, including Blood, Doom, Duke3D and Quake

#

and they aren't cover shooters

runic rapids
#

I detest hitscanning though

#

the cultists straight up drop blood from 10/10 to 8/10

crimson folio
#

maybe you should try lower difficulties

runic rapids
#

in doom it's less bad because there's a decent windup

crimson folio
#

they aren't a problem there

runic rapids
#

I finished blood on extra crispy that isn't the issue

#

its that they're mechanically uninteresting

crimson folio
#

whatever that means, heh

runic rapids
#

they're just oop you walked into their line of sight I guess you take damage now

#

in doom you at least get this little windup that means they're a reaction shot

#

in blood you just end up throwing dynamite over corners

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over and over

crimson folio
#

truly

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the scarecrow's projectiles are already extremely fast, wouldn't make much difference if it was hitscan

#

hitscan doesn't mean enemies will always hit you

runic rapids
#

it

#

does

#

actually

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it literally means that

crimson folio
#

have you played Doom?

#

enemies don't have 100% accuracy

runic rapids
#

I can dodge the scarecrow's projectiles, but a hitscan literally means that if an enemy has LOS you take damage

crimson folio
#

they won't always hit you every time they try to shoot you

runic rapids
#

you can artificially limit "hitscanning accuracy" by just having a random chance that the scan doesn't damage

#

which HL does

crimson folio
#

but in Doom they miss the shots, you can see the bullet puffs on the wall when the hitscan hits

#

the problem with Blood's hitscanners, along with their inhuman reaction time is that their accuracy is always 100%

runic rapids
#

This is true

#

but I dislike it nevertheless since you just add to a dice toss whether you get hit by a projectile or not

#

whilst physical projectiles can be baited or dodge

#

HL2 kinda fakes actual accuracy by having an input delay between scan rays?

#

the hitscan ray has a slight lag

crimson folio
#

Cero Miedo's projectiles are already pretty fast, making them faster would just be a push

#

maybe the enemies should fire them faster? I'm half sure if they already do that, though

odd anchor
#

Guess thats why it feels like every gun in HL2 is having some kind of weird malfunction delay fire

spare robin
#

sukd

crimson folio
#

I only died two to three times in every episode when playing Dusk on Cero Miedo

odd anchor
#

Plus the guns in HalfLife Source Deathmatch function horribly

crimson folio
#

except for episode three, in that one square arena

#

maybe lowering or removing the cooldown before being able to attack that the enemies have would be a good idea

runic rapids
#

I do feel those could be upped

#

Soldiers specially ahve very slow reaction time

#

and I feel cultist fireballs could be faster

#

the rest of projectiles are the right speed though

jade root
#

Yeah CM is pretty easy and Duskmare is a meme

#

Also on the topic of hitscan, Rust still does it the best

runic rapids
#

or maybe just don't have hitscan

jade root
#

Anything within a 10-15m radius is hitscan, anything further is projectile

runic rapids
#

still don't like that for anything online because it'll always

#

always

#

result in corner shooting

jade root
#

Also hitscan works against Duskmare

runic rapids
#

because the hitscan ray will be serverside

#

I wish I could tweak duskmare

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to be like

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3 hits per level

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or something

#

that'd allow me to actually have fun with it vs a lot of corner peeking and hugging the sword for dear life

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on episode 2 m1 I just rushed to the sword

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as fast as I could

#

fuck dealing with that otherwise

jade root
#

Soon you will be able to

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With the sdk

runic rapids
#

yeehaw

wraith turret
#

What happens at the end of Dusk? Like upon defeating the final boss make sure to try and append the || spoiler tags

runic rapids
#

why don't you play it

wraith turret
#

I'll get to it once I finish doom 2016

jade root
#

Yeah I’m not spoiling a game for you

#

Go play it and find out

torpid locust
#

at the end of dusk u win

delicate sail
#

It really pays off to experience the ending yourself

blissful mesa
#

Dusk is best played blind

crimson folio
#

All I can say is, the end is something you don’t want to have spoiled

eager bluff
#

balancing a game with no hitscanners is hard.
It's always gonna be easy unless they start doing the bullshit where they aim for where you're going
I don't understand why that is bullshit. Enemies that want to kill you should use their attacks as effectively as possible.

royal herald
#

because realism doesn't mix well with games.

#

it entirely changes the pacing and way you play the game for the worst

eager bluff
#

I think that depends on the game.

#

As well as the number of enemies.

runic rapids
#

uh

#

dusk enemies already track shjots ahead a bit

#

this is very noticeable if you put on very easy

#

and slowly walk ahead

#

however they inda have a speed limit

torpid locust
#

you just gotta be fast as fuk in blood

#

playin it slows rekts u

runic rapids
#

it's why for dusk if you're gonna be in duskmare it's ideal to bhop back and forth

#

if you do a circle at closer ranges they'll hit you

eager bluff
#

If you have an entire HORDE of enemies on you then maneuvering around their projectiles will be difficult if they aim at where you are going
Enemies who can't aim where you are going with projectile attacks or use hitscan attacks, is what makes hordes in Horde Shooters manageable.

#

But not all games with enemies who use projectile attacks are horde shooters.

chilly holly
#

Dude!

#

Dusk is out!

crimson folio
#

WHATv

vast tangle
#

Huh. I didn't notice.

crimson folio
#

I think the bots using internet explorer

untold elm
#

HOLY FREAKING SHIZZLE MY NIZZLE!! DuSk Is OuT!?!?!

graceful wing
#

yeah

#

go buy it

simple pilot
#

no munny

graceful wing
#

ok leave

old bough
#

Stupid thing I made with photoshop and sfm a little bit ago.

jagged ferry
#

dusk but the marines are hecu marines with projectiles instead of hitscan

#

hl1 ai and all

#

that'd be surreal

crimson folio
#

Adrian Shepard becomes big john

crimson folio
#

how do i continue to the facilities

#

i'm confused

#

i just finished e1m10 and i don't know how to get to e2m1

charred terrace
#

go back to the menu and select new episode

final jacinth
#

I did another thing 👀

https://youtu.be/0jXiK-Y6JrQ#

brave egret
#

nice

final jacinth
#

it works!

hasty breach
#

going into the narrow dark parts of dusk with a sword gives a sense of power

#

bc sword even without 100 hp or morale is still pretty powerful

#

it probably does more dps than ssg

#

and with the charge attacks it becomes a super powerful weapon

#

so always look for the sword in the earlier episodes

royal herald
#

I don't think the sword has nearly as much DPS as ssg

#

The ssg deals 600 damage, sword is 300 per swing

#

900 charged but when are you ever gonna hit an enemy with charged shot twice

hasty breach
#

because ssg reloads slower

#

and sword swings relatively faster

subtle bear
#

it probably does a bit more dps, ye

#

i'd think you could swing like 2 and a half times in the time it takes to shoot reload the ssg

#

still would prefer to use the ssg most of the time since it's so meaty

hasty breach
#

ye ssg has better range

#

but thats why i recommend sword for tight corridors and the dark horror parts of dusk

royal herald
#

ssg dps is almost exactly 1 higher than sword. if that mattered though, we'd see a lot more sword use; ssg deals 600 in a single shot, and that's what is important- instant death to what is in front of you.

hasty breach
#

using sword saves ammo

royal herald
#

when have you ever run out of ammo in dusk though

hasty breach
#

when the game doesnt give it

#

its common in the arean areas and stuff

#

but probably not in small cramped corridors

#

where you have to be resourceful

royal herald
#

I don't think I ran out of ammo for any of the weapons in DUSK a single time. with the exception of the start of the third episode

#

resources are far too plentiful

hasty breach
#

i will give some more arguements though

#

the sword's faster swing means its easier to kill with it

#

because even if the ssg is super powerful, the spread is quite wide

jagged ferry
#

the wide spread is what makes the ssg easy to kill with

#

far wider margin of error

hasty breach
#

good for groups

#

but its a bit weak when you use it for longer ranges

jagged ferry
#

"a bit weak" is better then "literally can't even reach it"

#

like uh

#

the sword

hasty breach
#

but that uses up ammo

jagged ferry
#

and you gotta get closer with either weapon to be effective

hasty breach
#

i mean you can always switch

jagged ferry
#

so

hasty breach
#

sword is a bit more consistent

jagged ferry
#

depends on the situation

hasty breach
#

because the damage is in one swing, not multiple pellets

jagged ferry
#

horrors or melee enemies? sure

#

cart dog? hahahah no fuck off

hasty breach
#

ye im saying sword is useful for horror stuff

#

i use a different weapon for the cart dog

jagged ferry
#

no i meant specifically the horror enemy

hasty breach
#

what

jagged ferry
#

as in there is an enemy called "horror"

hasty breach
#

i just got to the cart dog part

jagged ferry
#

and the sword is effective against it

royal herald
#

monika if you're running out of ammo at any point I've gotta be honest, you just gotta shoot better, sorry man.
Sword is useful when you don't have access to weapons, but once you do you're wasting time trying to use the sword. They'd be dead before they get close if you just shot them.

jagged ferry
#

monika if you're running out of ammo at any point I've gotta be honest, you just gotta shoot better, sorry man.
i mean honestly unless you're on intruder cm

#

,

#

yeah

hasty breach
#

i just use sword as an incentive to be more agile

jagged ferry
#

....ok

#

also the sword IS useful in tight spaces against certain enemy types, mostly if you have the charge up

#

but if one of those conditions isn't met then yeah you might as well just use a gun

hasty breach
#

cultists go out in one hit

jagged ferry
#

...ok

#

cultists aren't intimidating

hasty breach
#

ye but its fun

jagged ferry
#

ok

hasty breach
#

im trying to find a good reason to go whack things with a sword in dusk

jagged ferry
#

lmao

hasty breach
#

it does have a good range

jagged ferry
#

for a melee weapon

hasty breach
#

its kinda like using the axe in amid evil

#

bc it feels more efficient than gunning down enemies at times

#

just get up close and swing

jagged ferry
#

placebo

hasty breach
#

good against the first wendigo encounter

#

chances are you get a sword earlier than you get a ssg

#

if you find the secret for it

jagged ferry
#

i forgot if i've had a sword by the first wendigo encounter

#

but my first instinct for that is always levers

hasty breach
#

4 swings

runic rapids
#

well, the earliest you can get a sword is e1m2 right?

#

wait wendigos are in ep 2 first

eager bluff
#

the sword is awesome

runic rapids
#

in that case yeah you can get a sword in e2m1

#

so it works

#

not even counter as a secret funnily enough :p

hasty breach
#

en garde

hasty breach
#

ah finally i beat it yay

crimson folio
#

🅱️usk

hasty breach
#

the nyanlorthep line where he says just me could be replaced with a monika boss fight

crimson folio
#

mod it in ™️

hasty breach
#

if i learn modelling i will

#

time to download blender

crimson folio
#

🅱lender

chilly holly
#

God damn why is Oshry posting SDK stuff on his twitter ;-;

#

its so evil

#

i just want it already

#

what a tease

timid condor
spare robin
crimson folio
#

Forget about the SDK

#

DUSK IS OUT!

vast tangle
#

...Or is it?

eager bluff
#

I like dusk, the combat is really snappy

jagged ferry
#

...snappy?

opaque spindle
#

It snaps at you when you do something bad

eager bluff
#

...snappy?
the hit scan weapons were really good

crimson folio
#

god damn the infernal machine scared me, first time I had the volume up enough for the ambiance to set in

eager bluff
#

the weapon animations are just extremely well done, even in the minimalistic fashion they are stylized in

crimson folio
#

and pretty well balanced

#

pistols arent totally useless, the basic shotguns are pretty good, its well done

small halo
#

straferunning bunnyhops

crimson folio
#

and the sound design

#

M its incredible

runic rapids
#

the basic shotguns are just more worth it for groups of enemies

#

the constant cover of gunfire is specially good for soldiers

jagged ferry
#

lowkey though the ar is best for constant suppressing fire

hasty breach
#

hey remember the time notch made a video playing dusk?

ebon radish
#

yo he fuckin WHAT

#

i demand a link, i wanna see this for myself

jagged ferry
#

whAT

runic rapids
#

ironically that video shjows well why I don't like duskmare

#

it demands a lot of very careful corner peeking

#

I loathe it

#

I wanna circlestrafe and do flips damn you

crimson folio
#

Notch has tweeted about DUSK for a long time hasn’t he?

flat juniper
#

he could be in this discord
he could be any one of us... 👀

short basalt
#

he could be you!

#

he could be me!

jagged ferry
#

he could even be

short basalt
#

he could even be-

thorn trout
#

I assume he finished it and moved on

jade root
#

dusk is the only game notch plays

#

hes been playing it for YEARS

sly path
#

When's Notch making DUSKcraft?

jade root
#

after he buys his fourth mansion

final estuary
#

Never

small halo
#

DUSK mod for minecraft when

final estuary
#

Someone is doing that here

#

It's just a resource pack tho

small halo
#

BIGJOHN for Wither

crimson folio
#

I wonder if there’ll ever be console commands for the campaign.

prisma halo
#

There will, it's part of the SDK

#

Standard stuff like god, noclip, etc

crimson folio
#

Good, I wanna see the pre nuts wad spawn room of e3m10, if there is one.

jade root
#

spawn big tiddy goth girl

solar olive
#

I imagine it would be "spawn big_tiddy_goth_girl" 'cause it wouldn't recognise the entities name with space =P

prisma halo
#

correct

crimson folio
#

Jab can't console

royal herald
#

camelCase

#

I rarely see underscores in entity names actually

#

maybe it'd be bigTiddyGothGirl

crimson folio
#

What kinda engines have you been workin in

opal plover
#

Wow I just realised

#

Happy birthday Dusk

viral gate
#

🥳

crimson folio
#

Happy birthday 🅱️usk

#

stream delayed tho HUPsad

royal herald
#

doom.

#

weird, my message just sent like an hour after I sent it

crimson folio
#

Doomer

slow olive
#

When stream

slow harness
#

Stream's cancelled, david said

crimson folio
#

this weekend

torpid locust
#

f

mild ginkgo
#

Doom

muted jolt
#

Happy Cake day Dusk

crimson folio
slow olive
#

Bro David to bad at his own game

#

What a noob

crimson folio
#

David doesn't even play on cero miedo

#

I forgot.

#

Happy 1st anniversary to Dusk today!

spare robin
#

Dusk is out

#

no way

final estuary
#

is it really that time again?

idle wagon
#

tiiiiiiime, dr. freeman?

crimson folio
#

shillbot shills a year old game

kind dune
#

is Dusk 1 year old?

crimson folio
#

Yes.

kind dune
#

very odd coincidence...

#

i just hired Dusk Dude for my sheriff in my colony

#

i just uploaded that screenshot in Dusk Steam Artwork

#

he will do just fine in my colony

chilly holly
#

You know whats a good present for this Dusk birthday?

#

Sdk

kind dune
#

sounds neat

#

by the way, Dusk Dude receive most pay in my faction

crimson folio
#

New game + would've also been a good Dusk birthday present.

topaz forge
#

yo if a developer sees this please add subtitles

slow harness
#

@topaz forge aren't they already in game?

topaz forge
#

really

#

wherew

#

oh i'm an idiot sorry

#

btw does the SDK mean people can make custom levels?

crimson folio
#

Yepp

#

also don't we kinda have subtitles?

topaz forge
#

yes we do sorry

jade root
#

lol

cloud gazelle
#

but can we do custom subtitles

heady furnace
#

How soon is very soon for the SDK? Anyone know?

spare robin
#

dear god

#

sdk w h e n

runic rapids
heady furnace
#

Lol

small halo
#

at least 1 hour

thorn trout
slow harness
#

frick yeah

crimson folio
#

I'm still waiting on NewGame+ LMAO

slow harness
#

why does david look like a thicc cheek hamster

#

not gonna lie he do be lookin fresh

wind tusk
#

hey david

#

was DUSK purposefully released on the same day as DOOM 1

slow harness
#

ping him

wind tusk
#

@thorn trout

#

or was that an incredible coincidence

slow harness
#

oof he's gone offline now

#

oops

wind tusk
#

darn

#

i just saw him

slow harness
#

yeah that was the reason i told you to ping him

wind tusk
#

yis

slow harness
#

but now he's gone in a flash

thorn trout
#

Yes it was 😛

#

Doom day

slow harness
#

oh there we go

thorn trout
#

Also now Dusk day

slow harness
#

D o o m
u
s
K

thorn trout
#

Also @slow harness that's because I ate too much bad food in college

slow harness
#

don't call yourself a gamer if you don't eat food

wind tusk
#

oh sweet

#

DUSK eternal when

simple pilot
#

when we decide to kill David by sisyphean labour

grave barn
#

dusk eternal when SDK stops being a myth

neon dove
#

Is the stream still going?

runic rapids
#

Actually is NG+ still on the works

#

I haven't ween it in any material for a while

slow harness
#

@neon dove dec 14

neon dove
#

@slow harness guess you're my CEO now

slow harness
#

i'm also the ceo of feet

#

guess your entirety is just feet

#

come here

neon dove
#

Nemesis but instead of saying STARS he says FEET

weary ice
#

no

thorn trout
simple pilot
#

Dusk on Darkplaces engine

thorn trout
#

You're actually not far off

simple pilot
thorn trout
#

also not far off lol

jade root
#

it was after david added the crossbow did he realize "ah shit this cant be fingerbones 2"

spare robin
simple pilot
#

fix'd

jade root
#

add uhhh

#

whats it called

#

lense distortion

simple pilot
crimson folio
#

@simple pilot what mod is that and what game is it for?

jade root
#

doom remake 4

#

for gzdoom

simple pilot
#

its halo scp spv3

sly path
#

Retro DUSK With Gore.

weary ice
#

oh my lord no

#

flashback to jdoom

thorn trout
worthy vector
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Nice David, congratulations on one hell of a good game!

royal herald
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one year anniversery @thorn trout ? Didn't DUSK release january 10th?

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Is it related somehow to DOOM? DOOM was released december 10th if I remember correctly

jade root
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it was

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and yes it was related to doom

eager bluff
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does Dusk have coop yet?

jade root
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soon™️

eager bluff
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thats what 3DR says and I never believed them either

jade root
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coop wont happen until the sdk drops, since the sdk is making coop possible

eager bluff
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oh ok

crimson folio
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Oh, that first Dusk screenshot

eager bluff
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that is far more reasonable of a time line

crimson folio
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I'm sure there are people that actually think that looks good

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they would be the same people that willingly downloaded Doom Remake 4

eager bluff
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Dusk coop should be a lot of fun in one-hit-kill mode

simple pilot
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nah

runic rapids
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oops

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was scrolled up

small halo
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dusk coop with friendly fire on duskmare LeonApproved

shell arch
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dusk?

balmy sluice
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Dusk is here, yes.

shell arch
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co-op?

balmy sluice
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Scroll up.

shell arch
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oh, ok

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one of those days jab is going to snap and start banning everyone who mentions co-op

jade root
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i would appreciate it if you would do some research

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yknow

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before asking

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however i will acknowledge that discords search function is currently fucked

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so you get a pass

simple pilot
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except it isnt fucked

shell arch
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shush

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it's totally fucked tho

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and besides - i was kinda memeing there

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pls don't ban me senpai pepobanned

hasty breach
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is cero miedo the same difficulty as duskmare?

royal herald
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no

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duskmare is typically considered much harder because you die instantly in it.

hasty breach
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no aside from one hit stuff

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because i save scum anyways and dont want to get hit

royal herald
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then yes

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identical to cero

hasty breach
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ye because i wanted to play cero difficulty but didnt want to have to press f9 because i did poorly

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so im just gonna play on duskmare now

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its my second playthrough and im bored

simple pilot
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CM intruder is way more fun

hasty breach
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ye i might do that at sometime

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not bored enough

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i want the sword for playing dooks

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sword is still p op

crimson folio
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Happy b day dusk

hasty breach
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ye happy bday

unreal parcel
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happy b day dusk

jagged ferry
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joyous 24 hour period of birth, dusk

wintry rampart
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happy 1th birthday, dusk! ducks mode when

thorn trout
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🎂

wintry rampart
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for sure my highlight of 2018 lol

thorn trout
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Thanks!

crimson folio
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It's a great game that scares the piss out of me. I'm still afraid to go back to it. Love the game a LOT. Thanks for this beautiful creation, I've been reading the tweets but haven't responded because I had to protect my tweets (long story). Anyway THANK YOU.

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Glad I got to 100% it before it’s bday, such a great game. Probably the best on my steam library to be honest

tardy slate
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i liked that one level with 200 rats that was cool and the giant rat that made all the rules was cool too

crimson folio
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yeah it was ratical

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It was one of the best purchases I've made in a long time

solar olive
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Happy Dusk/Doom anniversary =P

crimson folio
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^

tiny prairie
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I love that it was made in unity and am still making my way through it

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Simply one of the most unique games I've ever played

pearl thunder
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glad to hear you're enjoying the game

visual aurora
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dusk is good stuff

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happy 1 year

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best game of 2018

crimson folio
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dusk is gud gam u shoot beast game

viral gate
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I'm gonna replay it the whole way though tonight

eager bluff
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dusk was good start to the R-FPS genre, hopefully it continues

viral gate
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I dunno how many times I've played though it, probably gonna be my 5th run

crimson folio
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the retro fps revival is very new

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but some "fans" are already saying they're tired of it

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big think

sly path
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I'm tired of it because they're all pretty similar.

crimson folio
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video games in general are, have always been

sly path
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I just want something a little different but these games all have the same loops.

crimson folio
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Zetsu you should play Death Stranding

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it's gonna knock your socks off - Kideo Hojima