Dusk has fans from other planes of existience!
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
crimson folio
royal herald
why you on a ouija board askin about dusk but not askin about the sdk
delicate sail
Wait, Ion Fury is advertising with “the last game in the holy trinity“ (cuz... DN, Blood and SW in.Build-days) Are they talking about AE and DUSK being today's other two?
viral gate
When talking build engine games the "holy trinity" is Duke3D, Shadow Warrior and Blood with Ion Fury following that lineage.
delicate sail
Yeah, that's what I also mentioned. The last game in the holy trinity implies another trinity it's part of to me though, cuz... four games arent a trinity... so I thought they were referring to newer releases. You're probably right and it's just not that great of a slogan
viral gate
mhmm it's silly
simple pilot
false advertising 
mild ginkgo
ah cool
jagged ferry
when another publisher says their game is the last in a trinity of games involving 2 games you've published because some guy on the internet got excited about the 3 of them
Hmm.
heady furnace
I think it's kinda cool actually
heady furnace
Also NB and 3DR are buds so there's likely an agreement on it
simple pilot
heady furnace
jagged ferry
east vs west style
cold war intensifies?
short basalt
please no
delicate sail
Meanwhile at Killpixel's desk...
heady furnace
I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff happening behind the scenes with the 2 publishers and in sure Wrath is part of that conversation
tiny glade
Hot take: the SDK project save format should be called .BALLS
crimson folio
@ zombie next time
queen coral
don't @ at people it's rude
muted berry
@queen coral
queen coral
wow rude
simple pilot
@queen coral
queen coral
WOW RUDE
prisma halo
Honestly that's super easy to do
I'm totally doing that now
save format now confirmed to be .balls
crimson folio
Thanks zombie very cool
prisma halo
save data folder should now be called scrotum
tiny glade
Also hi mum I'm on newblood.txt
Srstalk tho - pretty hyped for the SDK. Might make a mod as one of my selfguided university projects
muted berry
The best fucking part about this is that there will forever be a file format ending in .balls
prisma halo
I should fill the SDK with different phallic references
muted berry
Wewlad.
prisma halo
Sucking Dick Kit
muted berry
I can think of the cockumentation now.
delicate sail
tiny glade
Remember to use the correct DickrectX dll (Dong link library).
Okay I had to stretch for that one
muted berry
I can't wait for you guys to be independent of the Steam API (Appropriate Pissing Interface).
prisma halo
I've been working on a proper solution for that alongside the SDK, it's... an annoying thing to work through
I basically have to design a new API that covers all the features of Steam, GOG and Discord
muted berry
Do I smell some polymorphism?
prisma halo
You do
muted berry
Smells like tears.
prisma halo
I was experimenting earlier with Spacewar
The idea being new SteamGameService(...) could be changed to new GalaxyGameService(...) or new DiscordGameService(...) and it would 'just work'
muted berry
That would make the most sense.
It would be nice if these platforms used a somewhat standard way of doing things like achievements. That way devs don't have to spend so much time accounting for everything.
Less overhead too.
prisma halo
Achievements are actually one of the more consistent parts
muted berry
Ah, neat.
I wish I knew more about this stuff so I could help more.
My professor in uni scared me away from game dev because it's too high risk of a market so I focused on systems.
queen coral
Are the docs on these NDA'd or something?
prisma halo
Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to deal with like three separate APIs that all intend to do the same thing lol
queen coral
I feel like lotta devs would be really happy about an api to standardize that as much as possible
prisma halo
Steam API docs are publicly accessible whether you have partner status or not
The SDK itself is what's 'private'
As for the others, I believe they're not public
queen coral
...that's way too sane of a decision from valve
muted berry
What's ironic, zombie, is that now I'm in infosec.
Have not written a line of code for work, other than some scripting for myself.
prisma halo
heh
queen coral
the weakest link are people anyways
as long as you have a loud shouting voice and a stick big enough to hit people with you're good
muted berry
Ye
tiny glade
Ah infosec
10% updating drivers, 90% screaming at staff for keeping sensitive data laying around
muted berry
You found the secret purple boulder.
muted berry
You get a prize.
dense elbow
Oh okay I know that room
formal turret
i have the true colours mode on
retro palette
i mean
so maybe thats doing it but idk
dense elbow
I see
muted berry
@formal turret you ready for your prize?
formal turret
yes
muted berry
For finding the purple boulder.
formal turret
i've been waiting for this moment my entire life
formal turret
rubs hands
muted berry
The Adventure Pals!
formal turret
the hell is that
muted berry
A major award.
muted jolt
it' should play this game with a virtual boy palete
vale oar
Green Skies
crimson folio
Imagine Dusk with all its projectiles replaced with hitscan enemies and fall damage
delicate sail
🤢
muted jolt
rip on mama
delicate sail
rip indeed. "It's like the Arch Vile - but even cheaper"
short basalt
archpoopy
simple pilot
instashot arch vile
muted jolt
sexy arch ville
crimson folio
Remember kids SFW
queen coral
dusk with hitscan enemies and useless "squad members" that are only useful to open doors for you
because now you cant do it yourself
crimson folio
yo @queen coral we making a team fortress mod when sdk drops?
muted jolt
:DDDDD
queen coral
fuck man dont make me wet myself like that
crimson folio
lmao
queen coral
tfc or tf2 tho
queen coral
fucking SDK prob. drops when I'm in the middle of dying of stress due to my final thesis
which fucks me up
crimson folio
I mean there's some good stuff from tf2 like moving buildings as engineer
queen coral
tf2 was the real deal up until the class updates
then valve started doing god knows what with the new weapons and it all just got too complex for me
crimson folio
I dont really like the grenades in tfc
opaque spindle
Fuck that make it like quake fortress
muted berry
🅱uake 🅱ortress
grand zodiac
🅱ua🅱🅱 🅱or🅱🅱re🅱s
simple pilot
🅱uake 🅱hampions
grand zodiac
🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱 🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱🅱
crimson folio
You 🅱eat me to it!!!
grand zodiac
🅱
crimson folio
S🅱K
queen coral
best TF2 feature is stacking up teleporters and dispensers on stairs so people get stuck after they teleport
don't @ me
2nd best feature is swapping exists for entrances and have a friend of yours pick spy and backstab people who are standing still trying to teleport
royal herald
nah what about putting teleporters roughly overtop of each other so that your teammates get their feet suck inside of them and then they can't move?
Or putting teleporters that go off cliffs?
Or how about the infamous dispenser on the bottom of pl_frontier, and then placing the teleporter there as well so people insta-die when they use the teleporter?
queen coral
nah what about putting teleporters roughly overtop of each other so that your teammates get their feet suck inside of them and then they can't move?
precisely what I mean
Or putting teleporters that go off cliffs?
death like that comes too soon, seeing people rocket the floor trying to kill themselves while the dispenser heals them is way funnier
royal herald
yo we need dusk fortress
queen coral
(when the f2p thing hit lotta people didnt know about the kill command)
tiny glade
Okay terrible map idea; a level that takes place at the same time as one of the main levels, in a hidden background of said level, thanks to eldritch time travel or some shit.
As the player battles through the level, they hear the distant sounds of HUP up ahead, implying dusk dude is busy proving he is worthy, with only glimpses of the bloody aftermath seen through vents and cracks.
Like a sorta 'opposing force' vibe of seeing the same shit from a new angle
Oh oh oh you could end up the roof of the erebus reactor - you were big John all along!
vast tangle
Cero Miedo + Intruder is the best way to play IMO
Some levels get much harder, but it's part of the charm
brave egret
this is true
formal turret
hmm
i guess
the pistol is pathetic in doom 2016
i hope to god they either have a really good pistol in eternal or just get rid of it entirely
@thorn trout is mama inspired by that enemy from system shock 2?
cyborg midwife
they look kinda similar
woven elm
does mama have the same design as the minimamas?
ruby swift
She screams "My daughters!"
spare robin
crude geyser
cyborg midwife kinda cute. she got a so?
tiny glade
The cyborg midwife was a made by the Many tho
They are able to cope with the highly toxic worm breeding zone
Heck, until the end game Shodan is basically a protagonist
Could've ended with her taking the ftl drive and fucking off deep into space away from human influence buuut nooo gotta have her as the final boss
crimson folio
I think I somehow figured out what New Game + will be in Dusk.
It'll be more like Postal II.
Or it could replace everything with beer.
jagged ferry
what do you mean "it'll be more like postal 2"
opaque spindle
You'll get to piss
jagged ferry
olive cloud
sigh... hey guys. Did you know that dusk is out?... yea
crimson folio
Wow
Out is Dusk
twilit birch
this will probably be deleted again but...
vague egret
twilit birch
it's still NOT available for purchase on GOG
looks like new blood doesn't want my money
vague egret
You will get to waste your money like everyone else soon enough
twilit birch
some info info would be nice why it takes so long
mild ginkgo
the gog version is not complete yet, it will be available soon
probably in a week or so
twilit birch
that would be good#
mild ginkgo
we're basically just finishing up testing some multiplayer stuff
twilit birch
can I get an answer why it wasn't released on GOG at the same time as steam?
mild ginkgo
gog had declined the game upon initial review
(back when we were in early access)
so we didnt start development on the gog version until AFTER dusk was launched
simple pilot
reason?
simple pilot
okay
mild ginkgo
however, theyre being very supportive of us now
as you could see by AE launching on the platform
twilit birch
thanks for the heads up
mild ginkgo
no problem your wait shouldnt be much longer
1-2 weeks is your likely timeframe for a gog launch
we need to find a date that works for them, and us
twilit birch
exactly one week from now would be awesome since that's my birthday 😁
mild ginkgo
then we'll have to aim for your birthday
crimson folio
We haven't even gotten the collectors edition for PC yet
muted berry
We need a game of the year edition.
slate edge
Dusk VR cynical FOV+ edition when
crimson folio
SDK when
crimson folio
wow look it's the @\DUSK DUDES
chilly holly
Quick question, am i the only one here who hates the ratacombs?
Please tell me im not alone in the world
grand zodiac
i hate it too
and I am very vocal about it
e3ms and e3m9 are the only bad levels in the game
I said it again
simple pilot
thats really boring joke level
crimson folio
It's good cus everyone was complaining about rats on duskmare at the time
crimson folio
I think e3m9 is okey, maybe a little too long
fair mirage
m9 is purely mad cuz bad
mS is dumb but not bad enough for me to say i hate it
just kinda there
opaque spindle
most people who hate m9 just suck at the game lol
simple pilot
ur bad at e3m9 cuz you didnt played serious sam and paintkiller
opal plover
And yeah I know it wouldn't have worked with DD's speed
I meant gauntlet like guardian of time from BFE
jagged ferry
wasn't that level bad
opal plover
Never finished the game
chilly holly
The thing i love the most about m9 is the infighting
like, there is so much stuff going on
most of the time enemies just fight eachother
and its pure chaos
opal plover
I just like the monumental feel to the level from what I've seen
jagged ferry
i feel like m9 accomplishes something similar
chilly holly
If i was a DUSKMARE player i would kill myself for sure if i got there
jagged ferry
in that it feels like such a drastic departure from the rest of the game
that it feels like "oh shit this is important"
muted berry
I like the time you shoot the thing with the gun.
chilly holly
same
crimson folio
@muted berry Have you even finished Dusk?
muted berry
Yes.
chilly holly
Wait, is dusk even out?
muted berry
DUSK is not out.
fair mirage
🛑
opal plover
I like churros
jagged ferry
it's not out because it's in
chilly holly
I like turtles
muted berry
!hydrate
hollow ivyBOT
simple pilot
🚱
muted berry
Churbro is now Churro.
opal plover
No water gang rise up
fair mirage
crimson folio
unhealthy drinks gang rise up
chilly holly
Who need regular water when you have new an improved B A T H W A T E R
simple pilot
🚱
royal herald
churbro isn't churro, he's still shill boi to me
chilly holly
Same, shillboi forever
grand zodiac
nah i dont hate m9 cause im bad
i hate it cause its bland
and what joker changed my name
we live ina society
ive explained it many times why i dont like e3m9 but it's kinda disrespectful to just assume i dislike it because im bad
royal herald
probably mr skeletal changed it
grand zodiac
gamers rise up, i am rebelling and changing my name back
reason i dont like e3m9 is because throughout the entire game, you have interacted with each enemy in so many different ways
and that map boils down this fantastic ecosystem to shooty shooty bang bang
im trying to think of a comparison
opal plover
Puts the ecosystem in a zoo?
grand zodiac
maybe the last map of quake is kind of similar in that regard
just put the strongest enemies in the game in a line without regard for if it's interesting or not
but here it's a rectangle
shy prairie
Hi everyone 🖐 😁
I have a question for the (someday) upcoming Switch version...
Mods will be a thing for the PC version, thats clear by now...
But how will this matter be handled on the Switch?
Surely Nintendo wouldn't like that to 100%
But i think if there was something like "Community Packages" could come in as free updates or cheap DLC, right?
So my question is:
What will be the future of Mods for DUSK on the Switch?
jagged ferry
yep
chilly holly
As for mods, we are still waiting for SDK on PC, so i dont even know how much time till we get it on consoles
mild chasm
I'm telling you right now you ain't getting mods on Switch. More goes into a port than just slapping a control scheme on it, and with those changes comes incompatibility with any tools made for a PC version of a game.
Beyond that, the SDK is essentially it's own extremely heavily modified offshoot of the Unity engine and anything made and played using it will almost certainly be impossible to add to any console versions of Dusk.
I'm not even sure that the Switch could even feasibly handle mods considering that Doom mods are regularly capable of bringing a modern high-end rig to its knees if poorly optimized
jagged ferry
F
mild chasm
I don't mean to crap on your hopes and dreams or anything there but it's just basically not possible, not for the switch version anyways
Xbone and PS4 have been proven possible thanks to Fallout 4 but once again I think the way the SDK is being made precludes any compatibility there
slate sequoia
i like the idea of cheap dlc levels that support level creators on consoles, but maybe thats just because i want more dusk
olive cloud
maybe make some kind of themed level contests where the winner levels get ported to consoles
viral gate
Wouldn't be against the idea of that but it might not be entirely viable, not sure if there's a cost for it for NB to do that on each platform plus there's also the issue of getting the maps to run smoothly on each device
pine kettle
any news about dusk gog release date?
quaint anvil
pine kettle
ok XD
vague egret
this was tweeted not long ago
https://twitter.com/TheNewBloods/status/1162129389636599808
crimson folio
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Soon ™
ruby swift
Soon ™
slate sequoia
🔜
crimson folio
Oh fuck what kinna updates
mild chasm
I feel that gif implies that a horrible revelation will later occur given what happens in the Joe's strange journey
dusty dew
Sup my dudes
Just got DUSK im loving it however I'm struggling right now with my pc trying to play it with a controller and its lagging the game. I do play with the mouse and keyboard but the S button won't work any more and it sucks cuz I can't walk backwards anymore so if I'm in a sticky situation im fucked lol I prefer to play games with a controller cuz I was never fond of using m&k but this game has kinda changed that just wish that the S button didn't decide to be a dick and I wish my controller wouldn't lag the game so I can just play it
mild ginkgo
hello
viral gate
Can always rebind to different keys
Also a replacement keyboard doesn't have to be something fancy
dusty dew
yeah, gotta get a new pc in general this thing is a dinosaur pc lol
viral gate
That's alright plenty of games you can still play on it, maybe not DUSK for now but it should be alright on low spec systems, sorry to hear you're having problems m8
dusty dew
Its all good, dusk does run really good its just when I plug my controller in it dips I wish I knew the reason for that haha
viral gate
I'm immediately reminded that I've seen people use mouse2 to move forward
Huh that's strange what controller are you using?
dusty dew
A wired one, its a 3rd party controller called X91
Its shaped like a super nintendo controller
viral gate
Oh ok never seen one of those
dusty dew
Yeah its a cool controller I don't have a Xbox anymore but this came in handy for the pc. It runs well with Half Life 2 but when it comes to Dusk it just dips and its annoying I just wanna play the damn game with no lag and stuff and im,still getting used to using mouse and keyboard although I just prefer controllers
viral gate
Preference is preference just odd that it's messing with performance
That would get me to adapt to KB+M if I wasn't already
Doesn't take long at all mind you
Starting off with a low sensitivity and a reasonable dpi helps a lot
dusty dew
dpi? sorry I don't know what that is haha
brave egret
dots per inch, how sensitive a mouse is
viral gate
^
viral gate
glhf
grand zodiac
Isn't dpi more like the "resolution" of a mouse rather than sensitivity
viral gate
I don't know the exact specifics but I believe so
Sensitive in another way I guess compared to ingame mouse sensitivity
dusty dew
How can I check the dpi?
dusty dew
the mouse I have is called logitech
viral gate
If it's a gaming one there's a client for it otherwise I'm not actually sure
dusty dew
Odd backwards is making me go forward a tiny bit, gonna look into my settings for the game to see if i messed up anything lol this is frustrating. Thanks for the help tho I appreciate that. Btw how's the mp mode for dusk haven't tried it yet
shy prairie
@mild chasm
I get your point, but the engine Dusk runs on is not changed. The core remains the same.
Sure there will be changes to it, but only to improve performance on the switch. Also something has to be implemented that the switch knows "Aha! This is Switch Software!" cuz otherwise the switch would deny it's usage.
It is not like you would have to start from scratch or rewrite the whole thing.
Basicly many mods that will be made for PC would in theory be compatible for Switch.
The real difference would only be that you cannot access switch data that easy (unless you illigaly hacked your console of some sorts). On the PC you just copy paste some stuff and play great things, but not on Switch.
And don't get me wrong, but i didn't ask if mods would be possible on Switch, because i think they are. I'm courius about how they will be implemented!
Nintendo would be like:
"Wha? You wanna give users chance to alter data? U NUTZ?! Big No No! No hacking"
Thats the thing i'm really worried about! Only way to avoid this in my opinion is: rate some of the best mods and include them in packages/free dlc/cheap dlc (by the way, Unreal Tournament 3 on PS3, they have done it before ;p)
prisma halo
What's this about? Modding on Switch?
shy prairie
Jup
prisma halo
Can it be done officially? I'm not actually sure
But it's totally possible to let the game load data files if the console is modded or something
We can't officially support that though
shy prairie
I know that hacked switches can even play gzdoom (wich is just farking awesome!)
So mods in theory are possible, i wanna know how that matter will be handled. Thats the reason why i wrote my question yesterday evening (european time zone). I had to scroll a bit so see some replys
prisma halo
If the Switch version ends up running off the same version of the game as the SDK, then yes, mods are 'in theory' possible
The question is whether Nintendo would let us do something like that
I think it'd be an awesome thing to see and set a nice precedent for Switch games if we could get something like that authorized
shy prairie
Nintendo says no to mods at this given time, i'm sure about that!
Altering the data of a game as endconsumer wouldn't be allowed!
The risk of hacking the console through said game and data altering would be too high.
BUT if NewBlood would release free/cheap community packs.
That would be a different thing!
It would be regarded as tested and official content 😉 👍
prisma halo
It's something we need to look into for sure
Can't offer any promises at this time though
mild ginkgo
theres a small precedent for user content (look at mario maker)
but we have to look at terms, etc for all of that
prisma halo
from Nintendo themselves, no less
shy prairie
No problem, but thank you very much anyway 😁 👍
There is no release date for the switch version, and i don't think it will release anytime soon. I read 2019 somewhere, i saw an actual short trailer on the switch itself... But i think 2020 looks more realistic in my eyes.
Whenever it will be released, i will be there to BREAK DOWN THE FARKING STORE DOORS, RUNNING AROUND LIKE A MADMAN, SLAUGHTERING ANYONE WHO GETS TOO CLOSE TO DUSK,GRAB THE SWITCH RELEASE AND THROWING SOAP AT THE CASHIER, THEN LEAVE THE STORE AND INSTERTING IT TO GO HAVOK ON THE GO 
mild ginkgo
im pretty certain you arent allowed to have software that can execute arbitrary code
which is a big issue
prisma halo
Yeah, custom scripting would be the main issue
Depends on what they consider "arbitrary code"
mild ginkgo
in fact, im fairly certain that there have been games removed from teh eshop because of it
prisma halo
If it means assembly (eg, JIT) then we'd be safe
But if it also considers custom VMs and stuff then nope
mild ginkgo
prisma halo
Ruby interpreter
Which is a VM so yeah, no scripting on Switch
prisma halo
and potentially custom models/textures/etc
mild ginkgo
Well, the thing is that i believe you are limited to using a certain amount of memory and storage per application
so there would need to be explicit limits on everything
thats how mario maker works as well, theres an entity, and size limit for maps
and you can only have 32 maps installed at any time
(i think its 32)
prisma halo
Considering that, it seems A Dark Room's removal may have less to do with the a ban on coding and more to do with the fact that the feature was hidden from Nintendo's usual software testing and approval process. As Rajan himself told Eurogamer, "It was a last second 'spark of inspiration,' and I snuck it in assuming that plugging in a USB keyboard and pressing the '~' key wasn't part of the test plan."
Okay now that's just asking to get removed
mild ginkgo
so we would have to likely have a brush limit for maps or something
and entity limit as well
we basically cant allow anything that would crash a users system
prisma halo
Sorry, nuts.bsp
mild ginkgo
basically we would need a special map compiler that checks to make sure everything is within limit
prisma halo
That'd be pretty easy
mild ginkgo
and only maps using that compiler would work
prisma halo
Hell, don't even need a compiler per se
just a verification tool that reads the .map
runs before the compiler itself
mild ginkgo
we would also probably need to have to set up some infrastructure (servers and the like) to be able to remove content that violates nintendo's will
prisma halo
That'd probably be the harder part
mild ginkgo
unless they actually allow you to just download arbitrary shit to the switch
i dont think they do though
shy prairie
What about that Loader of Postal 2?
Postal 2 was abel to load some implememented stiff2
prisma halo
Yeah that's another concern: how do the mods even get distributed?
mild ginkgo
if we had our own content server it would be through that
something like a workshop
is there a postal 2 port for switch?
prisma halo
I suppose, but as soon as that dies, no mods on switch
shy prairie
No
prisma halo
and who knows if Nintendo would even allow that
mild ginkgo
yeah, they might but it would have to be done working very closely with them
mario maker works like that, so im basing everything off of that
prisma halo
Yeah, we'll need to ask a bunch of questions prior
mild ginkgo
because well, its the only user generated content game im aware of
prisma halo
Ninterrogation
mild ginkgo
alternatively, you could go the snapmap route
because then its easy
you can just send people a code that generates the level on their machine
prisma halo
fuuuuck that lmao
mild ginkgo
and because its made with tools in-app, limits are implicit
prisma halo
way too much data to realistically store in a code
shy prairie
If the end-customer is not able to alter data, everything would be ok, right?
So if mods only get patched in with updates as content, then nintento can't say anything against that right?
mild ginkgo
yeah i mean youd do like a qr code or something
prisma halo
unless the code was just a link to a CDN under the hood or something
mild ginkgo
or store it on a server, and then request the data via a link or something on a website
you could offload it all to that
so theres no actual data being transferred
well downloaded
prisma halo
@shy prairie If we gave specific mods 'official DLC' status then sure I don't think Nintendo could do much
But I'm not really a fan of that
mild ginkgo
yeah ofc we can do official dlc
prisma halo
Defeats the purpose of it being user content
mild ginkgo
but that requires us to curate it
and also make money off peoples mods
which is awful
shy prairie
You don't need to take money
prisma halo
Well I mean, if it becomes part of the game it's technically part of the product we're selling
grand zodiac
Wow, developers with a spine?
mild ginkgo
as we develop both the sdk, and the switch version, we'll properly investigate what it would take
but we're just letting you know what possible obstacles are in the way
better to be honest than not
shy prairie
I adore you guys for that 
Let my thoughts go haywire for a moment...
I saw a lot of doom mods (i do not know the exact structure of the SDK) but wouldn't it be possible to write some gameplay mods into the game and make the accessible via the options menu?
I know i have trial-and-errored a hud-mod for doom in a simmilar way (just for the record, i had no idea what i was doing but i was glad it worked xD)
shy prairie
Hm... What about a Modification menu?
prisma halo
The PC version'll have a Workshop menu when run through Steam
shy prairie
I don't have much knowledge how things run, so please let me explain how i understand it.
I'm not sure what Nintendo would think about external browsers, but if there was a directory for mods built into the Switch version, that would be okay, right?
And from that directory you could manage your mods (i think it would be very much like the Workshop)
Let's say somebody mods reloads in there, so that you have swing your weapons around to reload.
In theory thats a basic script, that once activated through the directory can be managed ingame through the regular options menu, or if there was a modmenu it could be managed from there on out.
prisma halo
but if there was a directory for mods built into the Switch version
That's technically how it already works. The SDK is set up in a way that the game itself is just a "standalone mod", if that makes sense
So if you had a hacked console you could totally play around with that
simple pilot
like you can run SS Fusion or RAGE vanilla or moddable
shy prairie
But what if i didn't have one!
What if certain mods would be accessible as free dlc and after download beeing put into the moddirectory?
I mean, sure i'm thinking about hacking my console in order to enjoy doom on the switch however i like.
But i am fully aware of the risk of getting banned u know?
prisma halo
Like we mentioned earlier that would totally be doable, it's just that it would require manual curation. In addition to that, it undermines it being 'user content', and it technically becomes part of the product
shy prairie
I see the legal reasoning there....
It would be part of the product... Yes... But that doesn't change who originally created that said content.
Beside the fact it getting "official" content, in a way it will always be user content
(Sometimes i can't stand humanity with all this legal bullshite and stuff... So many words wich just make things complicated... But yeah... Nobody wants trouble and we're looking for ways to avoid obstacles)
mild ginkgo
yeah, and if they signed off on it i suppose it would be okay, but im not sure if its right to be making money off of somebody's hard work
shy prairie
No that wouldn't be okay, unless they get some of that money!
But it would make more sense to offer that content for free, since that is the point of many mods in the first place
mild ginkgo
Yeah you wouldnt be directly selling the content, but if somebody buys dusk and that dlc is free, theyre effectively buying the dlc as well as part of the package , and then we need to consider that some of that money should probably belong to the modders
shy prairie
Uh... No?
The way i see it, people buy Dusk, that is what they pay for. The mods themsevles come in free.
Let's say i buy the switch version upon release. A year later the first mod pack drops, how will it be justified that some of the money i payd for dusk only is handed over to thw third party content if i only payd for dusk?
simple pilot
The way i see it, people buy Dusk, that is what they pay for. The mods themsevles come in free.
law says otherwise
i guess
shy prairie
Then put a pricetag on the modpack
mild ginkgo
well, so consider that the dlc gets announced
and somebody decides they want to buy dusk because of the dlc
its a difficult situation, we dont want to treat any modders unfairly
and we want to find a solution that works for everyone
so we'll figure it out
shy prairie
I have absolutely no problem paying for mods if the price is okay!
Dusk will cost about 20 bux on switch i suppose. So it would be no problem to calculate content and pricing.
If a mod releases that content matches the amount of content that Dusk holds, than it would be totally fine to charge 20 bux for said mod
I won't take a monolog upon Bethesda, but i don't think that they have understood that principle yet
mild ginkgo
Yeah, we'll try and come up with a way to do mods fairly if we can, maybe nintendo wont care and allow us to download mods
we'll find out 🔜
shy prairie
All i wanna say is, be careful and don't mention it to them unless you have to.
I just wanna see a change for mods on console. I want everyone to enjoy games how they see fit. Mods are a great thing! And i think it would bring gaming to the next level if mods were accessible on consoles as well.
So thank you very much 😎 👍
woven elm
You can't currently co-op the campaign right?
or can I use term commands like a leetboi
grand zodiac
Not. Yet.
woven elm
o. kay.
magic dagger
Whe can I write to devs
viral gate
Steam discussion forums would be the best place I believe
magic dagger
thx
mild ginkgo
you can talk to us here too
pearl lichen
I hate the black phillips
I love them too
I want a plushie of one so I can punch it
mild ginkgo
same tbh
crimson folio
no problem fam
final estuary
i had many more duskmemes but now it is only silence
crimson folio
pearl lichen
so Dusk related memes are acceptable here?
crimson folio
yes
crimson folio
50% of discussion of this channel is around Dusk memes
pearl lichen
I'm ok with this
chilly holly
Hey, Dusk dude
mild ginkgo
so like, imgur links, etc
chilly holly
yesterday i finished the whole game on cero miedo intruder, am i worthy?
or am i unworthy?
mild ginkgo
very worthy
crimson folio
worthy indeed
mild ginkgo
oh god not duskmare
chilly holly
NO SHUT UP DONT SAY THAT
Oh god oh jeez i dont wanna do it all over again on duskmare
mild ginkgo
duskmare saveless 100% all levels pistol start
mild ginkgo
ironman
pearl lichen
3 levels on Mare
mild ginkgo
restart if you die
chilly holly
Alright, what do i get if i do it on stream in one sitting?
crimson folio
pearl lichen
Down on the Farm, Grainery, and Crypt of the Flesh
crimson folio
short basalt
let's not, i don't want to get a heart attack
chilly holly
man i dont want dusk memes
pearl lichen
I have so many
chilly holly
i want pictures of hdusk release date
pearl lichen
ask Boscos
atomic egret
bosco's inconvenience?
pearl lichen
or Boxman
short basalt
do the curtains match the drapes?
atomic egret
HE'S A COP
atomic egret
get em boys
chilly holly
good art
atomic egret
sam and max dude
short basalt
the classsic
pearl lichen
I have a perfect image to react with feeling old
mild ginkgo
i actually never played sam and max
pearl lichen
fuuuuuck
chilly holly
@mild ginkgo Boomer feeling 
atomic egret
shit's like
pearl lichen
Anyways, I'm close to getting all of the achievements on Dusk
atomic egret
nearly 15 years old
pearl lichen
I need to find all the secrets in 2, 3, and soap
mild ginkgo
most annoying cheev
chilly holly
actually
now that there are dusk devs here
yo
does the soap instakill because they are hillbillys?
atomic egret
remind me to get you sam and max season 1 next time there's a sale so you can enjoy bosco @mild ginkgo
chilly holly
or is it because tehee random thing on game
pearl lichen
It's because Dusk Dude has a killer throwing arm
chilly holly
Fuck it, im gonna do a run only throwing shit at my enemies
100% too
kills and all
atomic egret
it will get annoying very quickly
mild ginkgo
god dont hurt yourself
atomic egret
rsi inbound
mild ginkgo
chilly holly
👀
short basalt
you crack me up, little buddy
pearl lichen
sound mods for Dusk
pearl lichen
Replace every enemy's voice with Big John quotes
atomic egret
florkofcult
mild ginkgo
whats the first map going to be made for dusk
atomic egret
e1m1
pearl lichen
e1m1
atomic egret
we all know this
short basalt
thanks, i drew it myself
pearl lichen
Plot twist it's Barrels o Fun
atomic egret
nuts.wad but big john
short basalt
big_nuts.wad
pearl lichen
Barrels of Fun but every Barrel is a horror
mild ginkgo
oh no
chilly holly
@short basalt Every time i see your avatar i can hear "pestis cruento vilomaxus pretiacruento" and shit like that in my head
Please dont throw more dynamite at me
chilly holly
Wait, what about
a remake
hear me out
in this one
a remake
of
tricks and traps
short basalt
don't worry, i've got ptsd of my own... from the darkest dungeon, that is
chilly holly
im sorry
pearl lichen
sorry I'd rather have a Chex Quest remake in Dusk
atomic egret
holywood holocaust will follow shortly after e1m1 I'm sure
chilly holly
I saw a remake of tricks and traps on the Doom snapmap and i was like who the fuck would do this?
short basalt
the train ride from half life
chilly holly
The train ride from Blood
pearl lichen
but instead of the female voice it's Stephan Weyte
atomic egret
Every notable fps level ever except in dusk
pearl lichen
also inevitable backrooms level
short basalt
open for business
chilly holly
Tbh i want to see some tight bunny hop maps and stuff like that
i love the movement in dusk so much that now that i gotta play Amid Evil on stream it feels so slow
i like it tho, its like quake and doom, one is more slow and stuff
but the movement is so good on dusk
ughhh
i love it
pearl lichen
oh thanks
atomic egret
Fucking st anger
pearl lichen
FRANT TIC TIC TIC
hmmm
I'm gonna make Erebus Reactor but with that trash can snare
glass pulsar
Erebus reactor but every enemy is Big John
short basalt
DUSK, but the boss is also big john
glass pulsar
Yes
pearl lichen
it's time for trash snare
pearl lichen
i did it
chilly holly
Dusk, but you are Big John
crimson folio
ah hell yeah
olive cloud
thx for STEAlling my memes you fuCKING BO0MER
pearl lichen
oh golly jee
olive cloud
pearl lichen
no please...don't shoot me big john oh god
I'm gonna make a video with the boomer dusk dude
queen coral
but that's just vanilla dusk
queen coral
one of these days zombie is going to snap and go on a ban spree just you wait
final estuary
doubt it
queen coral
we deserve it tho
olive cloud
my duskworld guy is actually stealing the trenchbroom icon
final estuary
nobody snapped over the episode 7 delay for amid evil
queen coral
sdk > ae ep7
final estuary
if this guy can do it then i can too
still can't find which level i'm missing for completionist
opal plover
Can't you look on the level select?
final estuary
no cause i did completionist before achievements were added
so now idk which ones are missing
either that or steam is being stupid and knocking me offline when i play
opal plover
Damn
final estuary
do steam achievements work regardless of whether you're online or offline?
vale oar
@final estuary lmao
crimson folio
small palm
hey did ya guys hear, there's a new boomer shooter
crimson folio
olive cloud
sigh... hey guys. Dusk is out you guys
crimson folio
That new wendigo tee looks pretty fucking terrifying
olive cloud
Yes
crimson folio
Wonder who's going to do the first wendigo cosplay
serene needle
hmm
serene sandal
safe bison
just bought amid evil to fill the void till this modding tool comes out
slate sequoia
im excited to buy dusk a second time when switch launch happens
final estuary
Buying that mf t-shirt when it comes out
mild ginkgo
Look it's happening Dave is just a weenie
slate sequoia
i can respect that
crisp lion
Wendigo cosplay will probably be cursed, because of the damned who shall not be named.
smoky sigil
iirc it'll happen if David ever feels inspired enough
I don't know if I'd want a DUSK 2 tbh
The big thing about DUSK is the progression into ||Lovecraftian insanity||
It'd be hard to pull that off again, since people would see it coming, plus the base game wrapped itself up pretty nicely
I wouldn't mind one or two expansions a la Final DOOM though
tulip osprey
maybe we get a new "champion" of a different "opposing force"?
the invisible artisans aren't clean to say so it might be possible to do eh?
smoky sigil
The most interesting scenario I can think of is one based off ||Shadow over Innsmouth||
Although something DUSK-related based on ||The Dreams in the Witch House|| would also be cool
jagged ferry
i mean honestly it's easy to see what kind of thing it's gonna devolve into really early on
just not
how
that's where it gets into "WOAH FUCK"
mild ginkgo
a dusk 2 is definitely not off the table, but itll be a little while, we have a few other games we want to make first
luckily, theyre games that youll probably like if youre a fan of dusk
spare cobalt
lol
thorn trout
@viral portal No concrete plans for a Dusk 2 at the moment. Basically Dusk was a huge undertaking and a sequel isn't something I want to jump into right now, and I also don't feel like I have the ideas right now to make a proper sequel rather than "Dusk 1.5"
The most interesting scenario I can think of is one based off Shadow over Innsmouth I couldn't make anything better than Dark Corners of the Earth tho
viral portal
@thorn trout I totally understand! I respect that, id also just like to say a huge thanks for making maybe my favourite game of all time, (easily top 3)
viral gate
In the SDK is coming out soon along with so much more for DUSK
viral portal
The art style is unique and incredible, even the loading screams are gorgeous
viral gate
So we won't be starved for content
viral portal
And the gameplay itself is unmatched so yeah you’ve made a masterpiece, I can’t express that enough, thank you x10000000
Sdk?
viral portal
Oh wow holy shit that’s awesome
mild ginkgo
so your dusk experience will live on
viral portal
And crazy
mild ginkgo
coming soon to a digital platform near you
viral portal
I’m to this day blown away by the universe and art style, I started playing in like 2017
Can’t wait!!
I’ll never forget that rib cage flying through the void ngl
mild ginkgo
we're all glad to hear you like it
mild ginkgo
haha that moment is really cool
everyone else on the dev team were floored by it when david first showed it to us
viral portal
I could gush about it all day but you’ve all played it so no need
Oh you’re a dev too?? Well thank you too!
royal herald
he's the duskworld dev dude
viral portal
It’s creative moments like that, as well as one of the richest atmospheres in any game I’ve ever played that makes me love it so much
That’s awesome, well seriously thank you again
Anything you do in the future I’ll support
jagged ferry
nobody:
not a soul:
escher labs: ||yo why don't we just fuckin' yeet a ribcage||
viral portal
hahah the sound on that part will always stay with me
But then it’s silent when u have to fight da boss
Fucking incredible fr
jagged ferry
the first time i got to the cage i was so fucking confused
viral portal
Anyway I gotta sleep so yeah have a good night everyone!
same I was like what the fuck
No seriously, what the fuck
but yeah goodnight 😊
fleet flame
New Blood: New Announcement
Me: 😲
New Blood Announcement: COMING SOON
Me: 😱 IsittheSDK?!?
New Blood Announcement: Image loads... nah just a Dusk shirt :P
Me: 😀... 😐... 😕 We'll get'em next time
vale oar
New Blood: New Announcement
Me: Is it a Dusk shirt?
New Blood: FRAG NIGHT TIME
Me:
thorn trout
@viral portal thanks very much, glad you've enjoyed it!
smoky sigil
@thorn trout I'm continuing a CM run of DUSK I abandoned, and something hit me; is the flashlight stuff inspired by DOOM 3?
I haven't played DOOM 3, but some of the stuff of I've seen of it had noticeable DUSK vibes
next prairie
a cult logo white t shirt would be dope btw
crimson folio
Mama p hot btw
Since I’m heading back up to PA I need to decorate my apartment with dusk stuff, I should make a miniature version of the town sign
crimson folio
Lol! We got some room out in the mountains here by state college, I’d be down for moving in
pearl lichen
hell yea
thorn trout
@smoky sigil not specifically but maybe subconsciously!
radiant lantern
slate sequoia
considering following the trend of challenge videos by making a video of playing through dusk without using a gun
aka sickles/sword and physics items
crimson folio
Dusk pacifist play through
viral portal
@thorn trout always welcome, for real
lean cove
I don't believe you.
chilly holly
Guys
My gf is playing Dusk for the first time
It's actually the first pc shooter game she is giving a chance
crimson folio
is she winning
chilly holly
She gets scared by the breathing
She is more of a weeb than a gamer girl
But she is trying her best
To beat the game
grave fulcrum
Hi
chilly holly
Nha it's good
She shows me shows that are worth watching
And I show her games
Usually she is a backseat gamer
But because she has seen me play dusk before she wanted to give it a shot
chilly holly
Nha, if she gets to e3m9 without having learn the mechanics then it will be her test
Also she is playing on the easiest difficulty
simple pilot
its all about fun
chilly holly
She is about to get into the infernal machine oh boy
simple pilot
oof
short basalt
this is going to get bloody fun
chilly holly
I'm gonna keep you updated
She just broke her flashlight
She is not happy about that xD
And she got crushed
short basalt
how is she?
chilly holly
She just got a red key
She is doing fine
A little bit mad because the crusher killed her like 3 times
But now she is fighting welders and soldiers
And now she flushed the scientist body in the I fernal machine down the toilet lol
Oh boy a climbing moment
She is not good at this
short basalt
stressful moment incoming?
chilly holly
When the enemies spawned after the blue key she got scared and stafed right into her doom
vale oar
oof rip
chilly holly
Boi she is abusing the dmg reduction of the lower levels
She is gonna get so destroyed in dweller for that
simple pilot
shes tanking in dusk
chilly holly
I'm trying to tell her that she gotta move around
simple pilot
dont question her tactics
simple pilot
you never question woman tactics
chilly holly
She is right tho, for now there are not enough enemies
short basalt
meanwhile, in the "Dweller in the Darkness", future
chilly holly
God I'm so waiting for that
simple pilot
inb4 she finds way to E3MS instead of proper exit
chilly holly
She is a treasure hunter so maybe xD
simple pilot
(did she way into E1MS tho?)
chilly holly
Nope
She just glanced over it literally as we speak
But has not found a way to get into secret levels
short basalt
rip
vale oar
i'm waiting for E3M4 tbh
short basalt
yeah, that one is gonna be lovely
chilly holly
She is about to get to the labs
YESSSS
I'm so exited
For me Dusk starts properly there
vale oar
mind fuckery #1
chilly holly
Yesss
short basalt
eh, i'd say it starts properly, for me at least, in "Old time religion"
vale oar
it starts properly in DOS fake screen
simple pilot
the mood of E1M1 and E1M2 already sucks in
chilly holly
For me Dusk really hooked me in the labs
short basalt
the first time when i felt the "what the..." and sheer "WAIT WHAT THE-" and it was lovely
chilly holly
It's so goooooooodddd
short basalt
and then the mines spooked the shit out of me
chilly holly
Spooked ya!
short basalt
just... fuck you, jakob
chilly holly
She just grabbed the elixir of blistering heat
short basalt
welp, here we go
simple pilot
óóóóó
chilly holly
I almost never use it in regular play
But it's cool to see people enjoy the slowmo
It's cool because we actually played super hot before
So she got the reference xD
vale oar
Did she get Constantine reference tho? 🙂
chilly holly
Where?
chilly holly
She just went into the doctor memes room
vale oar
ah that one's cool too
chilly holly
And she got jumps cared by the changing rooms xD
vale oar
okay here we go
simple pilot
yeeee
grand zodiac
Has this channel turned into live-gameplay-commentary-of-a-third-person
chilly holly
I dunno, If it's too annoying I'll stop
It's just that it was quite dead when I came here
grand zodiac
I don't know either
chilly holly
And it seems like fun just chatting about someone's first experience
simple pilot
i would keep the conversation
chilly holly
She about to face mama
chilly holly
She just got scared and instakilled
Even on easy mama destroys players
Boi she just got intoxicated for this fight
SHE DID IT!!!!
And I think this will be for the day xD
simple pilot
awww
mild ginkgo
i think escher labs was definitely special for the people who got to play it for christmas
they waited so long to get ep2
simple pilot
i want erebus and neobabel
mild ginkgo
and when that came out i dont think they were expecting it at all
vale oar
WOW
mild ginkgo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
prisma halo
ok all games are cancelled then
mild ginkgo
^
short basalt
fuck...
vale oar
HOPELESS
mild ginkgo
leaked
short basalt
i was going to say "resurrect me by that time" but i'm not going to say it now
instead, don't do that
pearl lichen
Dusk Royale
olive cloud
Listen up you little shoot. If you say that again i‘ll organize a duskworld hitman group to hunt you down in duskworld and deinstall Forknifw from your mobile phone.