#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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final estuary
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hank?

dapper spire
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who?

little raptor
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there's a graveyard with a gravestone that reads something among the lines of "Here lies Hank"

final estuary
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no clue

dapper spire
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might just be some random guy

little raptor
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and something like "he was too good for endless mode" or somethin'

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I think it's e1m3

dapper spire
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yeah idk man

little raptor
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well, hank
if you're reading this: hi!

dapper spire
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might just be some dude they decided to put in who happened to be good at endless mode

untold vale
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Wish I was good at Endless.

little raptor
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don't worry, so do I :v

untold vale
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Hank must be a beast.

dapper spire
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highest round i made in endless was 10

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on “i can take it”

final estuary
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i've made it to wave 21-22

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on cm

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honestly cero miedo is the only way to play

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i can't remember what i can take it was like

untold vale
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Kinda like the only way to play Doom is Ultra Violence?

little raptor
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Very much!

dapper spire
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yeah pretty much

little raptor
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honestly just as I got the game I started in Cero Miedo

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Hey, so, just wonderin' but is there any channel where we could lay off our suggestions for DUSK for, say, future updates?

final estuary
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steam forums most likely

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you could put them here but idk if the devs would take much into consideration

little raptor
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fair enough!

final estuary
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500pts might cause he's a chad

dapper spire
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he is indeed a chad

final estuary
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that man got me my t-shirt

dapper spire
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epic

final estuary
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yeah i bought the dusk t-shirt and it didn't show up for a week so i asked 500 and he talked to the merch guy

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not even an hour after my order shipped

dapper spire
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what a fucking dude

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he’s so cool

jagged ferry
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prestidigitation can do wonders

final estuary
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i have a sketch somewhere of me in my dusk t-shirt but it's kinda blegh

dapper spire
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show us

little raptor
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the virgin entirety of New Blood vs the Chad 500_pts

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So, just wonderin', but anyone else thought that the Big John and Jakob fights were overtly easy?

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(and yes i did play in Cero Miedo i ain't a scrub)

opal plover
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Jakob is pretty challenging

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BJ's grenades are piss easy to dodge but his auto shotgun is pretty darn hard to avoid

little raptor
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I might have cheesed the bossfights then

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I don't recall taking any damage from big john as i stood pretty far away from him and picked him off with longer range guns, and jakob was kind of the same, used the sniper on him often!

opal plover
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You've got good aim if you can reliably snipe Jake

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For me like 1/3 of the shots connect

little raptor
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well, thanks I guess :'v

opal plover
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On the hr

little raptor
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hr?

opal plover
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Hunting Rifle

little raptor
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ah, yeh! sorry

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I think he was a bit slow and his movement pattern was quite predictable for his bossfight

opal plover
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I think he's as fast as DuskDude

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Although ||Nyarlathotep|| did say that DD is faster

little raptor
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yah

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I think he could'a done stuff that an actual Duskworld player'd do, like
bunny-strafe-hop to your position with a super shotgun and blast you with and then go right to the other corner of the room with another weapon!

opal plover
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You know what would be the most unnecesarily amazing thing ever

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If during the whole game your movement patterns get analysed and then Jakob moves accordingly

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Also what do you think is the most challenging boss

little raptor
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God!

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that's such a freaking cool idea

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and I don't really know, I think I'd say The Guardian

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since he mortar spams, fight is in very tight corridors, the mortars can teleport too and he has plenty of health

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and the only way to truly kill him quick is by telefragging him

opal plover
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Yeah the guardian fight is like bomberman on crack

spare robin
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the entire stage of dweller in the darkness is a bossfight

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and is the hardest one

little raptor
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Dweller in the Darkness was pretty much an entire enemy rush

spare robin
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yes that's exactly what it is

opal plover
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Also funny thing about the dweller in darkness is the the last wave before the bosses is all the female enemies

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Who happen to be the most powerful enemies in each episode except the third

spare robin
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hemng

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that's a big think

wheat zinc
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cowgirl phase was the easiest

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since they friendlyfire everyone

little raptor
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the cowgirl is pretty easy to deal with don't @ me

opal plover
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I rember the dude who spilled water into his pc from raging at the cowgirl wave

little raptor
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oh jeez

wheat zinc
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does he know how to strafejump?

opal plover
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Dunno

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@unborn lance

unborn lance
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I finished it already, and yeah I learned how to strafe jump on level 1

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First thing I tried doing on Level 1

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PC's fine as well

opal plover
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Nice

unborn lance
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When your aim is too good that cowgirls don't get the chance to friendly fire duskthink

spare robin
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I think that's a lie

little raptor
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friendly fire? I hardly even know 'er! duskthink

opal plover
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Friendly fire? Oscar Mayer's

little raptor
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Offtopic for a second
I just have to know:
does anybody else play with no HUD or is it just me?

opal plover
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Dave Oshry likes it afaik

little raptor
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what, friendly fire? uwu

unborn lance
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Cowgirls explode on other people and they start to fire their load or penetrate the cowgirl with their long hard weapons

little raptor
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dusk rule 34 when

unborn lance
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In other words, grenades go boom, enemies get mad at other enemies

wheat zinc
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I watched someone play DUSK at an easier setting

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and the bullets look like they came out of The Matrix

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in anything lower than Cero

crimson folio
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What? Do easier modes have slower projectiles?

wheat zinc
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yeah

crimson folio
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Weird, I've never noticed

flat juniper
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that's why the cowgirls are such assholes to fight

little raptor
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cowgirls can ride this little bull anytime they want úwù

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please don't ban me i plead innocent thank you

crimson folio
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_> what did I just read

minor remnant
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i cant stop playing dusk

crimson folio
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that could become dangerous to your health

minor remnant
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bro the movement.......

crimson folio
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That's what a cultist that doesn't drink their daily recommendation of water would say.

minor remnant
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arent satanists technically cultists

crimson folio
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are gamers cultists

minor remnant
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oh god the real question

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dam whats this limited role u got tho

crimson folio
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Yes No

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I havent been on the server very long

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so I got this role

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I apparently need to spend a long time here

mild ginkgo
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nah i think it mustve been caused by too many messages too fast

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ask a mod and they can probably tell you

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limited is usually triggered by spam afaik

crimson folio
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intriguing

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Well then it'll automatically go away after a while right

mild ginkgo
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yeah i think so

crimson folio
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@rare musk yo can you tell me about this limited role stuff

rare musk
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It wasn't automatic, one of the other mods threw it on you for spamming reactions on everything

simple pilot
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didnt played dusk for a while and beat Watchers, Jakob and that One on first try (not first first try, cuz you know ive beat dusk long time ago)

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feels great

rare musk
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👍

simple pilot
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i imagine NG+ being regular dusk but rattos randomly spawns on the map hmm2

opal plover
olive cloud
crimson folio
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Imagine if it was called dm_templemystica_re in the files.

opal plover
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What's the joke

modern ivy
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Apparently, you can cut projectiles out of the air with the sickles.

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That's neat

opal plover
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Not cut them

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Reflect them

modern ivy
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Ooooh

little raptor
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hey guys did you know that dusk is out?

vale oar
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HUЯB

little raptor
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So, for anyone interested and that didn't know about it:
The assault rifle remains perfectly accurate if you tapfire

simple pilot
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possibly even david didnt know about it

little raptor
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:o

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@Daveed u can tapfire with ur gun

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Hey, may I please be the first one to say please, do not patch it?
because I think it just adds a little tiny bit to the skill gap of the game!

mild chasm
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It's a very doom-like thing reminiscent of tapfiring with the chaingun

royal herald
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Yeah, that's intended, guaranteed

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The steam store page says it is inspired by DOOM as well, and DOOM had that exact same feature with the chaingun

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same with pistol

little raptor
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the pistol remains inaccurate if you tapfire, however

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bullets still get shot inside this cone, still

crimson folio
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killed everyone
pacifist achievement
w00t

grand zodiac
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e3m10 by any chance?

royal herald
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@little raptor the pistol in DOOM is 100% accurate if you wait for the animation to finish.

little raptor
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oh yeah, I know that!
I was talkin' about the ones in dusk, though

royal herald
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also have you tested that with single pistol or just dual pistols

little raptor
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dual pistols
I think I have with single pistols but let me check again

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I have just tested them:
Tapfiring with both Dual Pistols and a Single Pistol does NOT make them perfectly accurate, unlike the Assault Rifle

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If you wait about a whole second without firing any pistol, however, they do remain accurate

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this has been the DUSK PSA of the day, stay tuned!

mild ginkgo
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AR tap fire accuracy is intentional yes

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David wanted it to work like dooms chaingun

little raptor
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what a cool guy

mild chasm
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So do the pistols work like the Doom one then as well

tawdry cloak
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Pistols are still one of my favorites to use though :D

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Such a satisfying POP too

little raptor
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they're emergency guns but dang are they great emergency guns

crimson folio
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Yes they actually perform pretty well

tawdry cloak
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I like trying to fight the bosses with pistols

royal herald
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I use whatever I have the most ammo of

little raptor
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Ey
hear me right here:
Wouldn't it be REALLY COOL if we were able to select our favorite track from the available random selection in ENDLESS mode?

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I want BFG Div... er, I mean Departure from Destruction to play every time I boot up endless

tawdry cloak
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Burn in Hell

little raptor
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:(

tawdry cloak
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That transition to the 2nd section of the song is just nut_nut_nut_nut

little raptor
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oh

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I thought you were telling me to burn in hell

tawdry cloak
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Hahaha nah

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The song :D

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Thats a good idea though, choose your hype music

little raptor
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yeah!
david pls

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although that'd be cool

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leaderboards nowadays are the most irrelevant, sucky thing

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because there'll always be one asshole that just hacks into it anyways

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I wish, I believe there is but it'd require semi-constant maintenance of the leaderboards

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you'd have to be deletin' names

noble arrow
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imagine dusk with maximum action's slowmo

vale oar
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EZ

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no but u can Neo cosplay

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which is more important 😃

simple pilot
crimson folio
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epic

little raptor
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excuse me what the fuck

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is this literally in maximum action

vale oar
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yes

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custom endless arena

little raptor
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that's fucking epic

noble arrow
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thats more like dusk in maximum action

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i mean i would want dusk's gameplay, but with maximum action's slowmo

little raptor
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Superhot serum

noble arrow
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not the same

little raptor
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fairly similar!

noble arrow
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its not toggleable

little raptor
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maybe if DUSK gets workshop content...

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but that's just an idea

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a game idea! thanks for reading!

noble arrow
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its gonna get workshop eventually

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when the sdk releases

little raptor
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it better or else riot

noble arrow
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the dusk mode in maximum action may look like dusk, but it doesnt feel like dusk

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you walk slower and cant jump as high

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and you can only hold 2 weapons

little raptor
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well...

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I don't mean to be rude but if you wanna play dusk, just play dusk :v

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perhaps one day, if both games have workshop support, we'll get mods that change the gameplay of 'em in such games that they'll feel more like the other

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or we'll get max payne-style slow-mo in DUSK

noble arrow
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i was playing dusk
i was just saying i think it would be cool to have maximum action's slowmo in dusk

ruby swift
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can you spin the weapon?

noble arrow
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nope

chilly holly
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Bruh

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everybody like

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sdk when?

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im im here like

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hdusk when?

crimson folio
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Yeah but like we need sdk to make hdusk

vague egret
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Delayed again

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Good work guys

crimson folio
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Thanks Lain

dapper spire
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wait what

little raptor
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question

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what is hdusk

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hentai-dusk? god

dapper spire
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unfortunately

little raptor
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you tellin' me you don't wanna fuck a cowgirl

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boooreeeeng

storm fox
delicate sail
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One of us, one of us

crimson folio
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Very cool

little raptor
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you madman

crimson folio
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but did you get to the secret endless level

little raptor
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did you use a guide tho'

delicate sail
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Did you find e3ms2?

crimson folio
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Oh fug

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I remember when that was a thing

storm fox
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Apparently I did not, wasn't aware of a super secret level

crimson folio
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nah it was a joke at ep3 release

storm fox
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I see, I'm bad at humor

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haha funi

little raptor
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what about e3ms3

crimson folio
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I think it was some mod who like joked about e3ms2 being a thing

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and everyone took it seriously

delicate sail
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T'was Jab

storm fox
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The poor souls who humped at every wall in every level

delicate sail
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the madman

little raptor
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Jab?

crimson folio
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Jab is a mod here, he's gone rn

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military training or somethin

little raptor
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he's learning how to bunnyhop in real life

delicate sail
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Oooh, David's already got his new shiny role as creative director in here, too. Congrats, you deserve it!

storm fox
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Absolute legend

dapper spire
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what a lad

little raptor
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Eeey!
now he's ascended to the Chad position!

tawdry cloak
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So I was not aware until like 2 days ago that you actually get 2 games when you buy DUSK

little raptor
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how do you mean?

storm fox
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Do you mean Dusk and Duskworld? One may argue those are two different games but I dunno mang

tawdry cloak
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No, if you go into your steamapps folder and go to Goodies, click on Pit and run the .exe.

storm fox
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oh that

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yeah

tawdry cloak
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I thought it was pretty neat

storm fox
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I'm a big nerd for that sorta stuff too

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Love to see the beginnings of games I like

spare robin
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i did it too

tawdry cloak
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Yeah it plays surprisingly well too

delicate sail
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The preprepre....alpha is also super neat. The E3 demo is a bit rough around the edges, but still quite fun and as you said, it's interesting to see where the roots were

tawdry cloak
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preprepre alpha?

little raptor
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it's in the files!

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there are more pre's

tawdry cloak
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oh yeah you right I just now saw it

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I'm about to go see what thats about

delicate sail
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have fun

toxic elbow
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@storm fox @spare robin respect, Ill try me best, doom 100% achievements was super hard with the multiplayer bull crap, half life is a challenge But I did them, and Im gonna do this

storm fox
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Dusk isn't too hard to get 100% on, some secrets are a bit cheeky though.

toxic elbow
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the problem is that I dont know what neutralize the chomper means

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or the hidden achivements

delicate sail
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You better not.... ||poison the well...||

toxic elbow
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you mean like, crystal of madness?

delicate sail
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Guess you're gonna have to give it a try

toxic elbow
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the fuck is Duskbaby

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playing on the lowest difficulty lo

little raptor
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first of all

youse a sinner

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secondly, it's a big secret!

toxic elbow
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shoit

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what its a mega secret

delicate sail
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That one took me a while

little raptor
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it's mega alright

delicate sail
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Walked past the entrance of the entrance in the beginning

toxic elbow
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is it as good as littleneck

little raptor
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oh boy

delicate sail
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It's definitely meme-ier

toxic elbow
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what its like in the first level and shit

delicate sail
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nah

toxic elbow
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lol the main menu

delicate sail
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try again

toxic elbow
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you type in the loading of the game?

delicate sail
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Alright so if you find all the secrets in the latter part of E3 you should have a pretty solid idea of what it could be

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Like really solid

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One might almost call it... ||indestructible||

little raptor
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So, just wonderin'

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what's your favorite ENDLESS level?

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and which one do you think is the best to train movement and accuracy?

tardy slate
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cathedral best level

little raptor
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fair enough :v

spare robin
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It's nearly Indestructible

little raptor
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guys

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why do i always die in wave 10

spare robin
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cuz you suck

little raptor
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i'm gonna buy

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monster energy zero^and the deluxe pack

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'cus we all know DLC makes you good

ruby swift
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wave 10? rookie numbers.

slow harness
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wave ¶π√? rookie numbers.

little raptor
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please i'm trying my best :c

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but
in what did you play tho'

dapper spire
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don’t worry, i can also make it to only round 10

little raptor
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at least eel feels me
fuck ny'all

dapper spire
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i gotchu homie

little raptor
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and i gotchu

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we're the get-ass-kicked-at-wave-10 gang

dapper spire
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hell yeah

balmy sluice
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Cathedral is nice, but I got a soft spot for the farm.

dapper spire
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same

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i usually play on the cathedral map but farm is also really nice

balmy sluice
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I think wave 15 is my record on farm

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I get somewhat bored by wave 10 on cathedral

little raptor
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Welp

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I have just gotten to Wave 11

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sorry Eel

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just got the 'cheevo

dapper spire
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all by myself

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just like real life

little raptor
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just like Caleb Blood

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and Stephan Weyte is Caleb Blood

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makes you instantly cool

dapper spire
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gasp

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thanks man

little raptor
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you're welcome

little raptor
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hey guys

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remember that dusk is out

spice knot
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wait really

little raptor
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yeah!

spice knot
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wow I gotta get on steam ASAP

little raptor
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remember to get the deluxe edition as steam summer sales are still going strong!

olive cloud
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Lol it‘s not Shillboi is trolling.

little raptor
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DUSK IS NOT OUT?!

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FUCK ME!

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so
serious question
what is the point on using one shotgun instead of dualwielding the two, apart from (a placebo-ish) ammo management?

jagged ferry
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ikr

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i've beat it 3 times and it's still not out yet

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smh

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also uh

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flexing

thorn trout
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no point

jagged ferry
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yeah flexing

little raptor
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but david

jagged ferry
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you flex your ability to get through with just one shotgun

little raptor
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it's getting heavy to carry a shotgun on each hand

thorn trout
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the only point is to see the better reload animation :3

little raptor
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oof

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i spent time on this guys please just use one shotgun
-david probably

thorn trout
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single shotgun had more time spent on its animation because originally there was only going to be the one

queen coral
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cant wait for Dawn so I can dual yield every shingle weapon

thorn trout
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why stop at dual wielding?

queen coral
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double the rivets, double the fun

thorn trout
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Russian Overkill that sucker

little raptor
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excuse me sir

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in this house we quad wield

queen coral
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oh god its too many supershotguns again

little raptor
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missed opportunity David

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should'a made Duskdude a quad armed freak

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so we could quad wield shotguns, smh

thorn trout
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TMSS ported to Dusk when @strong tartan

mild ginkgo
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I hate that tmss was spawned in this discord

little raptor
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Tmss?

queen coral
little raptor
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oh too many super shotguns

queen coral
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this is my favorite reload animation ever

little raptor
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ikr?

thorn trout
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I hate that tmss was spawned in this discord what why

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it's awesome that it was spawned in this Discord

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I designed like two of the weapons lol

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"designed"

little raptor
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of course it was you

thorn trout
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"participated in giving Bread stupid ideas for weapons" is more accurate

little raptor
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hey as long as your name is in the credits

queen coral
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fingerbones, dusk, honhon weapons

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man's a genius wtf

little raptor
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David Szymanski

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more like

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David Shotgunmanski

thorn trout
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Don't forget The Grandfather :P

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which is free now

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btw

tawdry cloak
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The Grandfather?

thorn trout
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smh everyone memes about Fingerbones but nobody memes about The Grandfather

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I actually had very little to do with the design

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mostly just made stuff Michael told me to

queen coral
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I saw the second screenshot and I have plenty of questions already

little raptor
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hey David

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now that we're in the Dusk channel, may I ask you something for the game?

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If it isn't much bother, could you please consider a weapon bob option after weapon sway's been turned off? pls k thnx don't kill me for asking

thorn trout
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now that we're in the Dusk channel oops lol

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If it isn't much bother, could you please consider a weapon bob option after weapon sway's been turned off? I think that'll probably fall under "mod it in" but depending, possibly in the future

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at this point since the SDK is getting closer and closer and with it will come a new "source port" version of Dusk at some point, it's kinda not worth adding extra features.

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at least until we see what happens with the SDK

little raptor
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gotcha, thank you

queen coral
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@little raptor getting motion sickness from that?

mild ginkgo
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I thought you could turn off Bob?

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Am I crazy?

thorn trout
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you can

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well

little raptor
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Naaah, not motion sickness, it just kinda throws me off as to where to aim

thorn trout
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you can turn off weapon animations entirely

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he's asking for an option for bob but no sway/anticipation

little raptor
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since the guns aim somewhere else but bullets still land on the center of my screen

mild ginkgo
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Oh so you like the Bob but not the sway

little raptor
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Yeh

mild ginkgo
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Gotcha

little raptor
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Thank'

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Did I already ask you this, 500? if I did I'm sorry, memory's fuzzy

queen coral
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legit question, what happens to Dusk's current source once Dawn is released?

mild ginkgo
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I always found it fascinating that people aimed with the guns direction itself

little raptor
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Well, it's just like in the good ol' Doom, 500 :v

mild ginkgo
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In doom everything aims center screen

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That's why it's confusing to me

thorn trout
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@queen coral unsure. The problem with releasing Dusk's source atm is that there's no good way to release it in a state where someone can't literally just build a working copy of Dusk without paying for it

mild ginkgo
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The only games I can think of where you aimed with weapon direction of that era are like, trespasser and perfect dark

thorn trout
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So releasing the actual project files would have to be some time in the future when isn't as much concern over it destroying sales

mild ginkgo
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And yeah, also the plugins used for dusk

thorn trout
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that's one of the main reasons that the SDK is gonna also have a different version of Dusk.

mild ginkgo
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The sdk wont use those plugins obv

thorn trout
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And very likely once that's all polished up, it will become the official version and the current one will become like... Dusk legacy or something like that

mild ginkgo
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^

thorn trout
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you'll still be able to play it as a launch option or whatever, but probably SDK version will be the one that gets continued support / updates

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which for you guys basically just means "at some point there will be a huge update and another launch option"

tawdry cloak
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So I know you guys are real hard at work on SDK, and SDK is going to provide some really awesome stuff
but do you guys plan to add another canon episode to DUSK's story, or do you feel that DUSK has been finished in that regard?

crimson folio
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That's cool.

thorn trout
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@tawdry cloak Unsure at the moment

crimson folio
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I think it'd be neat to continue the story as a graphic novel.

thorn trout
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I think Dave and I have different plans for what "more Dusk content" would look like

queen coral
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episode 4 is duskdude flying around, casting magic from his hands while a voiceover from dave goes "Hmmmmmmmmmmmm" every few moments

crimson folio
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After SDK, people will create their own new episodes, right? Just like Deathwish for Blood.

thorn trout
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@crimson folio that's the hope!

queen coral
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we already have Big John so that's not a stretch at all

crimson folio
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I kind of like the idea of what happens afterward being kind of speculative

tawdry cloak
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Okay, fair enough @thorn trout

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I'm really excited to see what some of these really skilled creators will come out with

thorn trout
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me too

tawdry cloak
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More horror in DUSK 😄

queen coral
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ill probably port the soap launcher to dawn as the first mod

mild ginkgo
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Yeah Dave's ideas for more content are definitely different lol

thorn trout
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I mean to be perfectly honest, given how Sigil was received I'm not sure I'd want to do official Dusk content after/if the SDK takes off

mild ginkgo
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😂

thorn trout
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@mild ginkgo gotta be honest I'm not even clear what they are lol. They like change from day to day

mild ginkgo
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Yeah I know

thorn trout
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@queen coral please do

mild ginkgo
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But it's also a far off futureland where we have the time to even think about doing it

crimson folio
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Well, isn't that a bit different because it was mostly Romero working on that? Versus all the original team

mild ginkgo
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So honestly who cares

queen coral
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either that or all guns shoot soap

thorn trout
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@crimson folio I'm the only one who did levels for Dusk SP

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and I know there are gonna be plenty of modders who can map circles around me

queen coral
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the cigar becomes a bubble blower

thorn trout
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so if Dusk mapping takes off I dunno... I might just bow out

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figure it's the community's game now

crimson folio
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Well then, you shouldn't have the same issue Romero did. :P all you need is consistency, and that's something that was affected by Romero's project.

thorn trout
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``` yeah doing more Dusk content is not high on my list right now.  I really just need to have some time to do stuff that isn't Dusk.
little raptor
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your game?

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you mean

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our game

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:c

thorn trout
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^^^

queen coral
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honestly, people had some weird expectations for Sigil, it was very clear that it was supposed to be a very vanilla doom1 experience

mild ginkgo
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If there's like a really solid epiphany and magically we have the time energy inspiration ideas motivation etc to actually do more, then there's a possibility it could happen

thorn trout
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I loved Sigil. Thought it was fantastic

crimson folio
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Well, it also had some strange level design choices as well.

mild ginkgo
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But there's no current plan for ep4 or dusk 2

queen coral
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honestly the entire doom experience had interesting level designs aswell

little raptor
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Just wondering, if you saw a custom made EP4 that was very very great in terms of story and gameplay

mild ginkgo
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That said, we're working in more projects that you'll probably like, with all the lessons we learned from dusk

little raptor
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would you call it canon?

thorn trout
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Yeah also that. I don't really have big ideas to one up Ep3 right now lol

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well, I do... but they're not stuff that would fit nicely into the established engine framework

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like, Homecoming is a really simplified bastardized version of what I actually want to do with gravity switching

queen coral
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lessons learned from dusk: people dont want this shit, people want fingerbones 3 the reckoning

thorn trout
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because it was a chore to get it working at all in Dusk

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That said, we're working in more projects that you'll probably like, with all the lessons we learned from dusk this

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there are cool things coming up

tawdry cloak
mild ginkgo
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We're still learning from dusk, like factoring in multiplatform, control schemes, localization, etc from the start

little raptor
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will I have to pay money for them

thorn trout
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would you call it canon? I have tentatively proposed that all Dusk mods are made canon lol

little raptor
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pfff

little raptor
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even the meme ones?

thorn trout
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reality splits in Ep3

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infinite different timelines

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infinite other realities

little raptor
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infinite meme campaigns

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"duskdude goes to the store"

queen coral
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correction:

crimson folio
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^ Duskdude before dusk

queen coral
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duskdude goes postal

little raptor
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"duskdude before dusk"
"dude"

crimson folio
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Sounds about right

little raptor
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Boy, I'm so excited for the "Duskdude does his taxes" custom campaign!

opal oyster
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Considering that Maximum action and Dusk were both made in Unity, and the with SDK right around the corner, couldn't you essentialy, put maximum action in dusk?

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I mean it would be easier to just port levels from dusk into Max action, but the game itself, along with the mechanics, etc?

wheat zinc
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I am pretty sure the dev of DUSK did a fuckton with Unity

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Dusk version of unity probably looks very different

opal oyster
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I mean if that was the case, then you could take disect dusk, and maybe even make a competitive pvp gamemode with max action

mild ginkgo
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We have talked about porting some of the sdk code to maximum action

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But there are no set in stone plans yet

opal oyster
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Does DAWN allow for editing of online?

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like the online portion of Dusk run through the SDK along with SP or is it seperate

mild ginkgo
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That's the plan for it

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It's not ready yet, but that is the plan

opal oyster
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I mean DAWN as you guys showed so far looks fantastic, but it almost seems like you create an entire new game

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Like the SDK is an engine itself now

little raptor
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which is awesome!

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at this rate dusk might as well become a new doom in terms of modding

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hopefully

opal oyster
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How would you prevent people from profiting off the SDK though?

queen coral
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why would you prevent people from profiting

opal oyster
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Because then it wouldn't be modding

little raptor
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they'd ask them if they'd like to join new blood

opal oyster
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and at that point why not release the source code?

mild ginkgo
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The ask will be open source

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Sdk

queen coral
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if it's good and you make money outta it, great, if its not good nobody pays

viral gate
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I mean a premium DUSK total conversion would be cool

opal oyster
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Doesn't change the fact, the SDK itself is apart of DUSK, and by extention, wouldn't that violate certain IP or licensing laws?

viral gate
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but we've seen high quality TCs that are free for other games like DOOM and such

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not sure how NB feels about this though

mild ginkgo
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So, in this case

little raptor
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I think we can ask here right now if NB feels ok with that

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I think?

mild ginkgo
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The code is separate from the assets

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The code will all be open source

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The assets belong to new blood

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Like you can't go sell Andrew's music

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It's like how doom is open source, but you need doom.wad to play doom

queen coral
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that's where licensing comes from, @opal oyster - if you're profiting from dusk sources + original assets it all depends on the source code license

opal oyster
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In all Honesty, I think the SDK should be very limiting in terms of allowing the swapping or replacement of assets. And the SDK should be used or sold as a engine itself

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idk maybe Im not wording it right

royal herald
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You want to limit people's ability?

opal oyster
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If you were to take dusk and strip the assets themselfs and replace them with whatever you chose, and sold it as it's own game. Wouldnt that infringe on IP or licensing of Dusk itself

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and if not

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and you need DUSK to use the SDK like doom modding needs the wads

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wouldnt you need permission to profit

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?

queen coral
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that's what a license does

opal oyster
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You're not getting what Im saying

viral gate
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They're very much following a DOOM modding it seems as what 500 said with DUSK being required like the DOOM.wad for DOOM source ports

opal oyster
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You can't profit off a doom mod

queen coral
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ahaha yes you can

royal herald
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hedon did already

queen coral
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see: Hedon

royal herald
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yeah

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steam store

viral gate
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I mean, you can with a total conversion mod using the ZDOOM engine

queen coral
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see: Plutonia experiment

opal oyster
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Only because of Freedom doom

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it's a doom mod my man

viral gate
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freedoom is a wad filled with free DOOM like assets

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got nothing to do with Hedon

queen coral
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no, because the Doom engine is licensed in a way that lets you profit off of the code

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but not outta the doom assets

mild ginkgo
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We aren't really worried about being ripped off, I believe the license will be something along the lines of MIT

opal oyster
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I understand that

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Im asking

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would DUSK SDK allow you to do that?

mild ginkgo
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I'm not 100% on which license is being used

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But yes probably

queen coral
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whatever you do, please don't GPLv2 D:

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or worse, 3

mild ginkgo
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Nah gpl has issues

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We're aware of them

opal oyster
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Then why not use SDK as the engine itself, and NB profit off that

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I mean the SDK as far as im understanding, is an engine built inside an engine right?

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and if you had the ability to strip the assets and profit. Then why doesn

royal herald
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It's a development kit, that's all that really matters, make cool stuff with it, leave out the excess.

queen coral
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how many small mods or map packs will there be compared to outright TCs

opal oyster
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total chaos?

queen coral
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NB will profit off of modding if the scene actually flourishes because it will sell copies

royal herald
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total conversions

queen coral
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TC = total conversion

opal oyster
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So wouldnt royalties come into play?

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I mean look at that doom mod

visual aurora
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I'm excited for the SDK so like

opal oyster
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built on doom engine

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uses assets

mild ginkgo
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Yeah, that's basically the idea, the way we want to profit from the ask is by increased user base

opal oyster
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its a mod

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and they shut it down

viral gate
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DOOM Remake 4?

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that included the DOOM wads

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which it wasn't supposed to

mild ginkgo
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So for assets, yes,we would probably have to work out a commercial license with those parties

opal oyster
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I wasn't aware that it did.

royal herald
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Pretty sure hedon didn't get shut down though btw

mild ginkgo
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But if they aren't using our assets, it's no issue

queen coral
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hedon is still going strong

mild ginkgo
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Just like how you can't sell doom.wad unless id gives you permission to

thorn trout
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the way we want to profit from the ask is by increased user base this

viral gate
thorn trout
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SDK is about growing the community and giving the community a way to grow Dusk

opal oyster
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But with total chaos mod, and it's a standalone mod now that uses Freedom doom, and GZdoom to bypass the need for doom.wads itself

mild ginkgo
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That's correct

thorn trout
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also in general I'm not too concerned about people ripping my crappy assets lol. If your standards are that low go for it :3

queen coral
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freedoom*

mild ginkgo
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So they can sell total chaos

wheat zinc
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love total chaos

little raptor
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hey guys
I'm sorry for interrumpting but you can get a pair of red scythes in the game, yeah?

mild ginkgo
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I'm actually not up to speed on gzdooms license

royal herald
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?

opal oyster
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My main point and question, is what is stopping someone from taking the SDK, taking out the IP assets, and making and producing another game, without the permission or need of dusk?

royal herald
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Like colour change them?

mild ginkgo
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You might have to work with graf to sell something on it

opal oyster
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If total choas can do it without the need for doom

mild ginkgo
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There's nothing stopping them

little raptor
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nah like
i've seen videos of ruby-like scythes, Vythern

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i've read you get 'em by getting all 'cheevos

viral gate
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uhh but Total Chaos is free?

wheat zinc
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first you hear of Unity Asset flip games

mild ginkgo
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We aren't aiming on stopping standalone works

wheat zinc
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now we will have Dusk Asset flips

opal oyster
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Doesn't change the fact you dont require doom to play

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hence why its standalone

thorn trout
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@little raptor the ones on the level select map?

opal oyster
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and could be sold if wanted

royal herald
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pretty sure there aren't different coloured scythes @little raptor

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I'd have heard about them

mild ginkgo
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Yeah, so the answer is yes, you'll most likely be able to create and sell a dusk total conversion

little raptor
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Oh, well then I guess I have no idea then, sorry
I'll look it up if I made it up!

queen coral
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original Doom is under GPL, but iirc ZDoom original code is under BSD

mild ginkgo
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Of course you'll have to include a copy of the license, etc

royal herald
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You're thinking of the colour changer @little raptor

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screen tint

queen coral
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it's a nightmare of different licenses living under the same roof

mild ginkgo
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Yeah, figured

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I think zombie was looking at BSD-3 for dawn

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But don't quote me on that

opal oyster
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Im just looking at it as a buisness stand point, that you would essentially be releasing a free engine for people to profit off, without royalties, without licensing or IP infringement, and if that was the case. You could potentially release the SDK as a engine itself, and profit off that along with DUSK

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Maybe im wording it wrong or asking the wrong questions

little raptor
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Yeeeah, I think I might have been wrong, apologies

fair mirage
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gzdoom is gpl3

little raptor
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I remember seeing some videos around back when DUSK first officially came out that there were ruby-red scythes in the game, @royal herald, but I may have been wrong!

fair mirage
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according to its git anyways

crimson folio
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it really depends on how flexable the SDK is

queen coral
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wasn't zdoom's original code BSD tho wtf

fair mirage
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shrug

queen coral
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that wouldnt make sense either I guess, due to GPL being viral and all

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ugh licenses are complicated

mild ginkgo
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You're probably right @opal oyster ,we could do that, but I just don't think it's something we're interested in doing, especially if it discourages people from making what they want to

thorn trout
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@mild ginkgo I'm also not sure how that would work with Unity

mild ginkgo
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On top of the fact that they'll need to deal with unity's licensing anyways

thorn trout
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ninjad

mild ginkgo
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Lol

fair mirage
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rip

thorn trout
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like... DAWN is not a stand along engine, afaik

viral gate
little raptor
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man
it's a party tonight at the dusk chat lel

thorn trout
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it's not something that's made for you to make standalone games with

fair mirage
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seems like more of a wrapper to plug shit into unity easily with

mild ginkgo
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But it is standalone code that basically wraps around unity

thorn trout
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yeah

fair mirage
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ninjad again

queen coral
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lets add support for managed code to darkplaces and port the entire needed subset of unity APIs

mild ginkgo
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It will be very clear how it all works when we do the initial beta

queen coral
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problem solved

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absolutely nothing wrong with that idea (/s)

mild ginkgo
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Lol

fair mirage
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oh

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my fav scene

viral gate
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ah there's too many to choose

fair mirage
#

ya crazy dutch basterd

viral gate
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three point turn is a contender as well

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But man I cannot wait to what people come up with with Dawn, I hunger for more DUSK content

wheat zinc
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make a wildly successful semi tactical shooter on the dusk engine

thorn trout
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call it Counterdusk

wheat zinc
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hell yeah

queen coral
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Hiduskeo Destructor

fair mirage
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hiduskeo kojidusk

little raptor
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fuck i missed that

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i'd be all down for counter-dusk: globally offensive

queen coral
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cue major ranting about nyanlotherp for hours

little raptor
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let's invite stephan weyte to the server

crimson folio
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Can anyone invite me to a server?

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online?

queen coral
opal oyster
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How's everyones night going so far?

little raptor
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it's goin'

opal oyster
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Anything juicy?

little raptor
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well
i cannot go buy juice right now :(

opal oyster
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Me either :/

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Stop selling it at midnight on sundays

little raptor
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at least you have no reason to go to the store now, Dad

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you'll have to stay at home

opal oyster
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Well last time I did.....

little raptor
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no

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we do not speak of those times

opal oyster
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Im here now though, for you.

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little raptor
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woah dad that's erotic

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:(

opal oyster
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Well me and your mom our siblings

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I mean.....

little raptor
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Dad

opal oyster
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AFTER we got married

little raptor
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are we in Alabama?

opal oyster
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Well believe it or not, when you get married to a woman I.. I mean you deem worthy

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You technically become siblings

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hence the "Brother in law"

little raptor
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SWEET HOME AAA-LA-BAMAAA!

opal oyster
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or "sister or mother in law"

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So if you look at it, when you marry someone, you almost in some sort of weird way, become siblings

little raptor
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dad you're making it worse please stop

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let's just play dusk :(

opal oyster
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You wifes/husbands siblings become yours

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1v1?

little raptor
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nah i mean enjoy dusk as it is

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i probably don't have good enough internet right now to 1v1

opal oyster
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I always enjoy dusk

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I enjoy talking and making models and maps for it more then I probably do playing it

little raptor
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pfff

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I hope that still means you enjoy playing it though!

opal oyster
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Always, compettivily, but no one wants to get stomped by their dad on it

little raptor
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you heard it here first folks

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our dad is a GAMER

opal oyster
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"sips" them were the good ol days

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dont make em like they use to anymore

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until new blood came around, then things changed

little raptor
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when is New Blood going to make a proper remake of Blood

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amirite lads

opal oyster
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If I were to remake blood, I would call it Crour

little raptor
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i'd call it Hemoglobin

opal oyster
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Greek Haima

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Haime or Hemo itself

little raptor
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What if

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Duskdude was so fast that it's the reason why he sees all bullets as mere projectiles
and since nobody is Duskdude in Duskworld, every other character feels the bullet based guns are hitscan

wheat zinc
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in Duskworld, everyone is Jakob

minor remnant
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no in duskworld everyone is nyarlathothep

short basalt
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no, we are ||Stephan Weyte Himself||

delicate sail
#

Stephan Weyte model when?

crimson folio
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Shill me out, mommy

ionic wigeon
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Lmao what’s Dusk

graceful wing
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bad

ionic wigeon
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Looks like fortnite but Minecraft graphics.

noble arrow
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snapsnap ur spot on buddy

ionic wigeon
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Clearly a buggy unplayable mess weapon can shoot you up in air

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At least they know color theory

slate cairn
mild chasm
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Mod it in

gleaming berry
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Soooon

slate cairn
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cool

royal herald
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You can pet the dogs with any of the weapons though

still swift
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activate dog pet by flipping weapons

fleet flame
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When Murder Machine Inc kicks in

"YEEAHYAHGHH C'MAAHN"

crimson folio
#

dont you mean the music machine

short basalt
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welp... i finished dusk, finally

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is good

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i rate it ALTARS/CONCRETE

grand zodiac
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I feed it with BLOOD/BONE

little raptor
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I shoot it with SHOTGUN/SHELLS

steady aurora
little raptor
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excuse me what the fuck

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i'm kind of interested on the game they were talking about, which one is it?

steady aurora
#

Wrath by 3dRealms, don't bash the guy obviously

little raptor
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oooh Wrath!

crimson folio
#

Wrath is looking pretty sexy tbh

little raptor
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I really hope for that game to come out too

steady aurora
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Well the shotgun has red runes in it that is pretty sexy

little raptor
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I knew a guy in another server that just kept bashing it nonchalantly just because of what he saw in the trailer

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and it was quite infuriating

steady aurora
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tbhimo Dusk looks like Minecraft

little raptor
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dusk is

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triangular minecraft

steady aurora
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Going to make a Dusk survival mod

little raptor
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Duskcraft

steady aurora
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just need a hunger meter, sanity meter, thirst meter, sleepy meter, temperature meter

little raptor
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minecraft doesn't have sanity tho'

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nor temp meter

steady aurora
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throwing shade at survival games

little raptor
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but considering the world of dusk it'd be pretty fitting

steady aurora
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and most definitley

little raptor
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yeah but if you wanna throw shade at 'em remember to make the game actually playable >:v

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the best joke games are the joke games with good gameplay

simple pilot
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im running around my favourite level and guess what i found

little raptor
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what

simple pilot
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l a z y m a p d e s i g n

little raptor
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FUCKING RAW

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literally unplayable i want my fuckin' refund

simple pilot
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🔴

little raptor
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which level was this again tho'?

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it's in the facilities?

simple pilot
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E2M7 NeoBabel

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how do you not recognize it by most prominent visual feature

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piss coloured sky

little raptor
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hey E2M1 was piss coloured sky too

simple pilot
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sorry to hear you piss in grey with clouds

little raptor
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allegedly i pissed transparently yesterday

simple pilot
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you're rejecting water from your body

little raptor
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water is but a social construct

simple pilot
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also im not sure someone had fun with the latest patch

little raptor
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how do you mean?

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what latest patch?

simple pilot
#

but im hearing Vista/Win7 welcome sound starting just as booting game ends

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conclusion:

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DUSK is actually running on VM on Vista

little raptor
#

but who runs windows vista

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what the frick

void socket
#

I don't think vista could even run dusk

royal herald
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toaster mode

little raptor
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DuskBoy mode

short basalt
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hey, E2M1 didn't have a piss colored sky, it was a dark... night-ish sky

little raptor
#

wait a second

dapper spire
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yeah it has a cloudy, gray sky

short basalt
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it's the grainary

mild ginkgo
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Piss is in the eye if the beholder

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Anything you want to be piss, can be piss

little raptor
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what was the map in The Facilities that was like

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a city with soldiers and yellow sky?

dapper spire
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neobabel?

short basalt
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it's the ghost town, in the first episode

little raptor
#

my apologies

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it was E1M9

short basalt
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is alright

little raptor
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but i did pee transparently yesterday so all maps have a piss color sky for me now

short basalt
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you are still worthy

little raptor
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thankc

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By the way, how many times have you guys played through the game already?
assuming you did

dapper spire
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like 3 times

little raptor
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'cus I see people who love old games' (and the like) campaigns and I cannot understand how someone can blaze through a campaign so many times

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like don't you get bored

dapper spire
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not if you play on different difficulties every different play through

short basalt
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well, it is my first time, on "i can take it"
i will be replaying it on cero miedo definitely

little raptor
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fair enough-o

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I just see people that still see a lot of replayability in some games (like Civvie) and I cannot understand why

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I mean, they're awesome of course but like, doesn't it get a bit old

short basalt
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ahh, the e3m10 will be an ass to get through for me

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no wonder it's the penultimate,"prove that you're worthy" challenge

little raptor
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that's E3M9 buddy :v

short basalt
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oh, my bad

little raptor
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it's very hard!
the holographic trees do not give you cover

simple pilot
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E3MS is actual final test of worthiness

short basalt
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that's... kinda the point, it's hard

little raptor
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I know, it's just a friendly reminder!

short basalt
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oh yeah, i missed both secret levels

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not worthy yet i am

little raptor
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don't worry, the only secret level I could get to was E1MS

short basalt
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well, same

little raptor
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eeeey!

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E1MS Gang

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I thought you meant you've gotten to two secret levels, though. Apparently there is also a super secret level!
If I'm not mistaken...

short basalt
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i doubt that

storm fox
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that was apparently a joke, there's just one secret level per episode

little raptor
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Oh :c

short basalt
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is alright

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because

little raptor
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the true super secret level is in our hearts

short basalt
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it's just the beginning

storm fox
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Super Dusk Maker when

little raptor
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can we please call the dusk workshop the duskshop

short basalt
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Super Dusk Kreator

little raptor
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Kreate-a-Dusk

storm fox
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SDK, very clever

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very klevar

little raptor
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that's sick-le!

short basalt
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very knife

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i wonder what kind of levels people will come up with when the time comes

little raptor
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mark my words
some day someone will make the entirety of superhot in dusk, thanks to the superhot powerup

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just for the hell of it

short basalt
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hold on to your seat

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half life: dusk

little raptor
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what FUCK

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Dusktal 2

short basalt
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DOOSK

little raptor
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Duskathon

storm fox
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obligatory de_dusk2

little raptor
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that's for Counter-Dustrike

short basalt
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Desert bUSK

little raptor
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Dusk Muskem

short basalt
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Dusk Warrior

dapper spire
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Duskenstein

little raptor
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how do you call Blood in dusk?

dapper spire
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Dloosk

little raptor
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One Morning Whole Dloosk

void socket
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Dusk Nukem

short basalt
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how about "Blood(y DUSK)"?

storm fox
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Amid Maximum Dusk

little raptor
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Maximum Dusktion

short basalt
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LEATHERNECK RAMPAGE

little raptor
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Dloosk II: The Duskmare Levels

ruby swift
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Captain Dusk

short basalt
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God of Dusk

little raptor
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Cyberdusk 2077 (with keadusk reeves)

short basalt
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dusk souls

ruby swift
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Dusk 3D

void socket
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biodusk

dapper spire
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dusk wars: battlefront

short basalt
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Team Dusktress 2

ruby swift
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Return To Castle Dusk

little raptor
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how do you call Quake tho'

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Duaske?

short basalt
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Qusk

dapper spire
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OverDusk

ruby swift
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Final Dusk

short basalt
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HERETIC

little raptor
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Dusk Cry

dapper spire
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Dusk May Cry

ruby swift
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Dusk 64

little raptor
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Super Dusk Bros.

dapper spire
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MineDusk

short basalt
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DUSKO-KADUSKIE

little raptor
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CRASH BANDIDUSK

storm fox
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[list of all video game titles with DUSK in them]

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you're welcome

short basalt
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no you're welcome

ruby swift
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hahahahhaha

little raptor
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all total conversions hell yeah

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guys

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i'm so close to finding 6/6 secrets in E1M1 without using a guide

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but i can't find the last secret :(

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is reading a guide for unworthy people?

storm fox
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All secrets have some hint to them

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Sometimes it's tough to spot though

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Keep looking

little raptor
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thank u

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can someone please tell me how to open the console though so I can already get the UNWORTHY achievement?

storm fox
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no need to use a console, just type it in like you would in vanilla doom

little raptor
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oh, thanks

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there we go, thank you!

storm fox
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nbweapons, nbullets, nbff, nbff, nbff, nbff, nbff...

little raptor
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you forgot nbff!

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I found it, hell yeah c:<

storm fox
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yay

little raptor
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1% complete into becoming worthy

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do you know if there are secrets that can be missed permanently unless you restart the level?

storm fox
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Not that I'm aware of. Most levels are designed in away that you can always go back. Some levels like Steamworks have a trigger that locks you out from the beginning area, but the only "secret" there is the soap iirc

grand zodiac
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cant think of any

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you can go back to the starting area

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a switch opens up the wall

storm fox
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oh right

little raptor
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my thank'

storm fox
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yeah that switch where the key is, right

grand zodiac
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although i do distinctly remember there being one level where I got frustrated that I couldn't go back

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either because there was no way or I was missing it

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I think on e1m5 you can not get out of the pits with the fork maidens

storm fox
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if there was a prop you could prop hop out of there

grand zodiac
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unless you rocket jump maybe

storm fox
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or crossbow hop out

grand zodiac
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dont think there is a prop

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also e1m3 you can not get out of the pit in the end if you don't rocket jump

little raptor
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e
well, thank you for this info!

grand zodiac
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and i dont think you can get out of the tresher in e2m3

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or maybe there is a teleporter actually

little raptor
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god damn you dave/vid

grand zodiac
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i dont think you can enter the beginning area of e2m7 after you exit it either

little raptor
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Hmm

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If I may ask something else

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is there any reward for completing the game on DUSKMARE?

simple pilot
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yes

storm fox
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i just tried it, you can climb back up at the end of e1m3

little raptor
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apart from the underwhelming sense of accomplishment

storm fox
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its a bit tricky but possible

simple pilot
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eternal suffering

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also known as pride and accomplishment

little raptor
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but no bragging rights :c

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unless i record it but nah

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I got Duskwife! c:

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today is going great!

little raptor
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Hey guys
Lissen to me for a sec: What if...
Dusk had a gore system like doom eternal's

crimson folio
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we already have dismemberment sooo

little raptor
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I am sure it could be made once the SDK comes out, just imagine!
being able to expose the triangular skull of a leatherneck :v

prisma halo
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Dismemberment is planned as the example mod once scripting support is ready

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Custom map support is coming first though