#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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mild chasm
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It's almost like you have a chance to save yourself instead of just dying as soon as you fall into a hazard unless it's a bottomless void explicitly

NAH GAEM SUK NO DESIIN LEL BIGJOHN

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Lemme just ignore the part where you have three tools that give you vertical mobility of some description

dim plank
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if it doesn't meet my short attention span's standards within the first three levels... sorry bro.

your game's pretty cringe...

mild chasm
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BRO THIS GAME IS GARBAGE BRO THE ENEMY WILL ATTACK WHEN IT HAS CLEAR LINE OF SIGHT HOWEVER THE FENCE BLOCKS THE ATTACK

mild chasm
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IT'S SO BROKEN DUDE BRO MAN DUDE

dim plank
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you have literally a day or so to refund a game iirc

vast tangle
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That's the author in a nutshell

mild chasm
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No you have two weeks

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you have to have played only two hours at most

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which he certainly played less than two hours

storm fox
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The comment section hurts my brainage

simple pilot
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"2 of mi fivrent gaems are duki nuki and shadow wanker"

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i dont see strong relation here

mild chasm
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Just remember that you can't just run past all the enemies in Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior either

final estuary
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"overpriced"

simple pilot
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(not to mention shadow wanger suks)

mild chasm
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You can't do that in any 90s FPS game as a matter of fact

simple pilot
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you can

final estuary
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20 bucks for a game is apparently overpriced now

mild chasm
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I was making fun of his idiocy

simple pilot
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obliviously you can

storm fox
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what's wrong with shadow wanker? you no like sword?

mild chasm
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This brand new game should cost 2 dollars just like these literally 20+ year old games!

simple pilot
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its a lot of wank

final estuary
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if 20 bucks is too much for a game then i'd hate to see what this manlet thinks is a reasonably priced game

polar cypress
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zoomers review hurts my butt more than rats on duskmare

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damn

mild chasm
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Is this review made by quake_txt?

final estuary
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hey man that's not cool

mild chasm
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@crystal vessel

final estuary
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easy on the rule 1 there

opal plover
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<@&242930927347433472>

crystal vessel
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Well then

polar cypress
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btw there's new info about SDK?

simple pilot
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i like how every image is stretched from original aspect to 16:9

final estuary
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tbf i play dusk on 16:9 so

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it's just easier for me

simple pilot
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i mean screenshots from the video.

final estuary
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oh

vague egret
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🤔

tired whale
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😃

final estuary
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my god the fucking "i'm supposed to be taking damage down here but i'm not cause i'm jumping"

simple pilot
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how iam supposed to point that out more clearly

vast tangle
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"LOOK HE (the Intoxigator) WENT 180º ON ME!"

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I'm cringing so hard, man

storm fox
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Some people just want to be angry it seems

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They just can't help but not enjoy chocolate milk

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They'd rather drink fermented piss

crimson folio
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"There's no cooldown on the jumps"

vast tangle
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OOF

final estuary
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also i think he's on accessible

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cause those leathernecks are moving way too slow

storm fox
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according to the desc it's i can take it

final estuary
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bullshit

storm fox
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i think it's just cero miedo and duskmare that change enemy speed

royal herald
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how much damage does one take from leather necks on that difficulty? I've only played cero

simple pilot
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im gonna check it cuz its characters are way too slow

final estuary
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idr

simple pilot
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played only on CM

storm fox
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same

crystal vessel
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Yeah I have no idea what anything lower than cero miedo is like

final estuary
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it's been a long time since i played i can take it

storm fox
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maybe black phillips feel less bullshit in those difficulties

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but i'm too gamer to try it out

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😎

vast tangle
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Of course, thats another thing

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Game feels too easy
Is playing ep 1 on easy

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I've seen meme reviews in my time, but this goes above and beyond

dim plank
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updated reaction image for this situation

storm fox
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Aw, there was a comment by the New Blood channel but it got deleted

opal plover
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"What you've just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent review were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this comment section is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no like, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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What was the comment? @storm fox

storm fox
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Enjoying this circle jerk though hahaheaugh! Big John, yeah.

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"Damn got us good" or something like that

opal plover
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What a fucking pussy

vast tangle
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New Blood being New Blood

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I love it

storm fox
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he then responded with a screen cap of this chat with a whole paragraph of spaghetti droppings

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eks dee

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hi dad

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Name checks out. Hahaheaugh! Big John, yeah.

vast tangle
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I warned him he was now a meme 'round these parts

tawdry cloak
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oh boy, I just watched that video, and man that was reallllllllly bad.
@ DUSK Review

mild chasm
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I have no idea how he kept running into leathernecks getting stuck like he did either

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it never happened even once for me

opal plover
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Yeah the leatherneck ai did become a bit fucked up

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I think it's because of the horror ai?

tawdry cloak
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Complains about the game being too easy
Is on E1M2

vast tangle
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And playing on a lower diff

mild chasm
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I just looked at his other videos and he literally records and streams himself cheating in CS:GO and then acts like he's super good at the game

storm fox
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Quality content by a quality content creator

mild chasm
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"This is super risky" he says as he crouches in wait with wallhacks enabled allowing him to see where the enemy team is at all times

opal plover
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And then says that intoxigator is aimbotting

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Actual living meme man

vast tangle
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Yeah, that was actually painful to watch

mild chasm
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This guy gets beat up by children

crimson folio
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yeah, you're welcome

tawdry cloak
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Cultist throws fireball into gate
"Bruh this game is broken, not worth $20"

mild chasm
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This man has had his wallet stolen by a 5 year old at some point guaranteed

opal plover
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NB should start commenting on is vids where he cheats in CSGO

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That'll be a pain in the ass for him for sure

vast tangle
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OOOOOOOH DAVE PLEASE

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DO EEET

opal plover
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@gleaming berry

crystal vessel
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🤔

opal plover
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Do it or you're a girly man Dave

crimson folio
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🤡

strong tendon
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holy shit

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am i being baited!?!?

storm fox
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gasp

vast tangle
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Well, I've had a laugh, I can tell you that

simple pilot
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DUSK is fun

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for about 30 minutes

storm fox
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In some ways this vid reminded me of DSP a bit

simple pilot
storm fox
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bugged jumping mechanics

opal plover
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Wasn't there that time where you commented on all of that one guy's YT vids until he called you a sociopath gamedev though

gleaming berry
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yeah but that guy deserved it :-p

opal plover
simple pilot
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i knew oshry is like randy pitchford

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just slightly worse

gleaming berry
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HEY NOW

storm fox
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oof

gleaming berry
simple pilot
vast tangle
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Careful with those USBs then

gleaming berry
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I only use ZIP drives

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when I go to vegas

untold vale
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Wait, Oshry can't be like Randy because he's not a magician.
He can't make millions of dollars from other projects and other people's paychecks disappear.

reef pecan
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Lol, just let the guy force himself to believe whatever he wants to force himself to believe

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There are many very legitimate criticisms of Dusk in terms of game design

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that i would be happy to detail in 10 paragraphs or more

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but its a really smartly designed game

gleaming berry
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pls no

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U can just bunnyhop forever in dusk

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it is clearly broken

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why would we do this

simple pilot
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it has no cooldown

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bad

strong tendon
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what do you mean smart design

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design can't think

simple pilot
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^

gleaming berry
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dusk has no design u just shoot a dude and move to dude

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we made it with auto unity game maker pro

crimson folio
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Damn I wish I could jump with no cooldown

strong tendon
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you made it in 2 weeks i bet

simple pilot
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more like

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2 days

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i can do better

strong tendon
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and you just stole the weapons from quake

reef pecan
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everything from the atmosphere to the sound design to the way most enemies are balanced is really good in dusk but i have a lot of the problems with some of the enemy ai in particular and how it impacts the flow of the game and i think it could be improved a lot

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most notably how every melee enemy literally walks in a straight line at u

final estuary
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this is true

reef pecan
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forcing u to press the S key in a game centered around movement

final estuary
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enemy ai isn't all too great at times

simple pilot
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yeah

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Luigi is right

minor osprey
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"Sad thing is, I made this in 2 weeks "
-Dave "Chris Stuckman" Oshry

final estuary
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like how you can cancel enemy attacks by hiding behind something

strong tendon
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what ai

simple pilot
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DUSK is just inferior Serious Sam

eternal jolt
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imagine reviewing a 90's fps on the casual difficulty

strong tendon
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they just shoot, they don't have an ai
bruh

reef pecan
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honestly even on duskmare the game is pretty easy

simple pilot
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yeah

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you just point

minor osprey
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Lmao shooting is weak just throw boulders

simple pilot
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and click

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so easy

strong tendon
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BRUH

storm fox
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I dunno about you but the melee enemies in my game always get a forward-strafe-dusk-hop super shotgun blast in the face before I even realize they're there

strong tendon
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dusk is a point and click adventure danoshry

reef pecan
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when half of the enemies have a really predicatable attack pattern, the other half are melee enemies that walk in a straight line at u, and you can literally cheese the game with throwable objects and soap (which i did not do whenever i could avoid it) its really easy to trial and error through duskmare even on intruder mode

strong tendon
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yeah see

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the dusk is broken

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because it has soap

simple pilot
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its so easy

final estuary
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game sucks i go to bed

simple pilot
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you just need go through trial and error

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thats no design

storm fox
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Dusk is shit it has health regen in the form of cigar wtfff

untold vale
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DUSK SUCKS AND YOU SUCK FOR LIKING IT

reef pecan
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the cigar is a really smart weapon design

simple pilot
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it isnt smart

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like smart pistol

strong tendon
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SUCK DUSKS AND YOU DUCK FOR LICKING IT

simple pilot
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from Titanfall 2

storm fox
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[presses USE key on sink a million times while telling himself this is acceptable]

final estuary
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DUSK DUCKS AND YOU DUCK FOR LIKING IT

simple pilot
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the gun from Titanfall 2 is smarter than DUSK as whole

minor osprey
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God I wish I was a duck

untold vale
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DUSK DUCKS AND YOU DUSK FOR DUCKING IT

final estuary
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DUCK DUCKS DUCK DUCK DUCK DUCK DUCKING DUCK

viscid pecan
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I can't believe i'm in a video game called Blood

final estuary
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QUACK

reef pecan
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dude on the brimstone ghetto level on my first playthough i was low on HP and i just mashed the sink in the bathroom until i was at 100 again

untold vale
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DUCK DUCK AND YOU DUCK FOR DUCKING DUCK
(quack)

reef pecan
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and i dont have a problem with that because thats just like rewarding you for doing stupid shit LOL

gleaming berry
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its cool when the SDK is out u can make all the enemies and AI and grafix gud

reef pecan
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yes!!!! sdk :D

strong tendon
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HEY

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I THOUGHT IT WAS YOUR JOB

final estuary
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i didn't even realize you could use the sinks to heal til like later in episode 1

strong tendon
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NO OURS

mild chasm
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When the SDK comes out can I mod the guy who made that review out of the game

simple pilot
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yeah we definitely will

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ill make a mod

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called

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Brutal Dusk

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and ill ruin your carrier

final estuary
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i'll make a mod that puts the game in journalist mode

untold vale
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Too bad this clown who said "DUSK BAD" will only play when it's fixed and 90% off, so he'll never get to experience stuff like that.

simple pilot
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ill make the patreon

reef pecan
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there's a lot of cool interactivity shit in dusk like how you can cook viscera and use the cigar as a telescope and use boulders as shields

simple pilot
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and ppl will pay me to improve this broken mess

final estuary
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add microtransactions

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gamers want those

simple pilot
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yeah ppl want to support the game

tawdry cloak
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don't forget about lootboxes

simple pilot
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through surprise mechanics

tawdry cloak
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oh I mean "surprise mechanics"

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my b

simple pilot
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ill add surprise mechanics to Brutal DUSK

untold vale
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@tawdry cloak You beat me to the punch!

final estuary
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you can buy loot boxes for a chance of getting the riveter in a level

reef pecan
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i think that making a good Brutal Dusk would take more than adding Epic Gore™ to everything in the game you'd have to fundamentally change a lot of enemies so that the game isnt hilariously easy

simple pilot
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and you ll see how its done

final estuary
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actually for april fools there should be a fake dlc menu like in postal 2

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and every button you click on is the aeguy scream

reef pecan
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oh i think that post got deleted because i said the r-word

simple pilot
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refund

reef pecan
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same amount of letters, starts with the same 2

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anyway i basically said that if weapons were balanced in Brutal Dusk like they were in the Doom equivalent the game would be even easier than it already kind of is

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and i kinda want the game to be more tactically difficult rather than "the enemies are faster and do more dwamage :3"

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because thats not actually harder that's just like you have to cheese them more and not get hit

untold vale
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B-but DUSK is bad! It's broken, bad, overrated, and other things that I believe are contrarian to what the audience says!

opal plover
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Yeah I kind of wish there was an enemy who's gimmick was to shoot according to where the player is strafing

slow harness
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@reef pecan cigar as a telescope?

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@opal plover just like cheogh in blood, he shoots where you strafe

opal plover
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Does he?

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I forgot

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The fight was too hectic most of the time

slow harness
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if you don't jump around and just strafe yes

opal plover
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Yeah I was thinking more the scrapjacks from SS3

reef pecan
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@slow harness equip the cigar and zoom in

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you'll be surprised

slow harness
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oshit

reef pecan
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Also I looked at that video we're all laughing at

slow harness
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oh wit

reef pecan
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I thought he would have legitimate criticisms

slow harness
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oshry more like oshit

final estuary
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no he doesn't

reef pecan
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instead he just says things are bad and doesnt elaborate

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lol

final estuary
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it's just some zoomer complaining

reef pecan
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I mean I was kind of giving him the benefit of the doubt

tawdry cloak
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same tbh

reef pecan
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Like "if someone wants to not like dusk thats ok its not for everybody"

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but

final estuary
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and his other videos are him hacking "for fun" in csgo and pretending he's cool

reef pecan
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no his criticisms boil down to

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"enemy walk in opposite direction of me on the loewst difficulty,, hah bad gmae"

opal plover
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When he said that intoxigator was "aimbotting" I legit thought it was satire

final estuary
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he complained he wasn't taking damage in duskworld cause he was bhopping on a lava floor

reef pecan
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the enemies in quake and doom do literally the exact same thing

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they do their own shit until they shoot at u

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then they snap to u

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thats not a broken concept thats literally just how it is

final estuary
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well dusk enemies mostly stand still

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some quake enemies move around

slow harness
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@opal plover when i saw the like/dislike count and the comment section I also thought it was satire

reef pecan
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Well like look at the Fiends

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in quake

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they wander

final estuary
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fuck those things

reef pecan
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and then when they want to leap at u

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they just YOINK

final estuary
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fuck those things

opal plover
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I like to call it the "flies on shit" effect @slow harness

final estuary
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the two enemies i hated most in quake, fiends and those blue shits

slow harness
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spawns

final estuary
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yeah spawns

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i'd just call em blue shits cause that's what they are

crystal vessel
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Those Blue Shifts

opal plover
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Also I'm pretty certain the melee AI in Dusk did become wonkier since the horrors were implemented

final estuary
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horrors aren't melee tho?

opal plover
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They're not but they do move in a special way to flank you

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I remember a duskdev post specifically saying that their AI broke the melee enemie's

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And I think it never fully got fixed

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But I might just be a crackpot

final estuary
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maybe in new game+ enemies will have more attacks and different types of attacks

gleaming berry
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no its cancelled now

final estuary
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f

gleaming berry
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cuz we have to go and fix bunnyhopping

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so it has a cooldown

opal plover
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NG+ will be more like DD with Nyaly's powers I think

gleaming berry
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and then uhh

final estuary
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smh dave just cancel the game

gleaming berry
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make the AI do more stuff

tawdry cloak
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I think cultists should jump and do a frontflip before they throw a fireball

final estuary
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yeah ng+ is duskdude with nargle's power but like

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i want the enemies to be stronger too

slow harness
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who's nargle

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oh nya

final estuary
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it should be a challenge

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yeah

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him

strong tendon
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stephan

opal plover
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The dweller in darkness

final estuary
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the less popular elder god

opal plover
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The crawling chaos

final estuary
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crawling chaos underground, cult has summoned twisted sound

strong tendon
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you're saying that like his name is forbidden

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like the n word

opal plover
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Wait

strong tendon
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wait

final estuary
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at least it's not like shubbie

opal plover
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They're both n words

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OH NO

strong tendon
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Oh shit

final estuary
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congratulations

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you played yourself

opal plover
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At the end of the game Nyarla actually gave DuskDude the n word pass

strong tendon
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Have to find my pass before the cops come in

opal plover
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Don't worry we all completed the game we can say Nyarlathotep

final estuary
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retro fps where cthulhu is the elder god villain when

simple pilot
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who?

opal plover
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Strange aeons? @final estuary

final estuary
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yes

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wait what

opal plover
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Also Cthulhu is boring tbh

final estuary
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i mean he has been done to death

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what about azathoth

opal plover
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Big fat squid fucker

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Azathoth is good

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Existence is literally his dream

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Also Yog Sothoth

viscid pecan
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Dusk

opal plover
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God of KNAWLEGE

final estuary
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oh right, the elder god that made the shoggoths

opal plover
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Didn't the old ones make the Shoggoths as slaves?

final estuary
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i don't remember

opal plover
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And created humans as well

final estuary
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all i know is shoggoths were in Eldritch and they were invincible black blobs with a ton of eyes

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scary

opal plover
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virgin spawns vs chad shoggoths

hollow ivyBOT
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🔄 DUSK IS OUT!!!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/

TELL YOUR FRIENDS! TELL YOUR MOM! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!

BUT WE’RE NOT DONE. STAY TUNED FOR NEW FEATURES AND CONTENT SUCH AS:

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MAYBE MORE STUFF???

Don't forget to leave a review. Let us know if you liked or hated it!

DUSK reintroduces you to a world where butchery and bloodshed must be mastered... if you're to survive 'til dawn. Inspired by Doom, Quake, Blood, Heretic, Hexen, Half-Life, Redneck Rampage and all your '90s favorites, while featuring a soundtrack by metal music mastermind And...

Price

$15.00

Recommendations

4330

Metacritic

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opal plover
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Shut the fuck up, robot

final estuary
vague egret
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Be nice to shill. He is just doing his job the best he can

simple pilot
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just like gggman

opal plover
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Goddamn freeloader, just sits there posting the same messages over and over again

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I wouldn't even call that a job

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Eldritch @crimson folio

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It's a rogue like

final estuary
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@crimson folio a game called Eldritch

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i played it some time ago and it was good

gleaming berry
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we know the devs of that

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it is good!

opal plover
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Never got too far because I always try to shank everybody and circle strafe around cultists instead of being sneaky

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But yeah I really like it

final estuary
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also the shoggoth shopkeep has a bowler hat and a bowtie

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blessed

opal plover
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Cutie

final estuary
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i like the shopkeeps in the game

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but there are moments where you run into a shop with like tons of enemies on your tail and one of them enters

reef pecan
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honestly a lot of the ppl in this discord commenting on The Funny Video™ are giving him shit for playing on easy difficulty

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but the difficulty doesnt actually change the AI

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it just makes them like faster or shoot faster projectiles

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like whether the rats do 10 damage or 200 damage

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it doesnt stop them from being a fundamentally bad design

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(and i love dusk but i am sorry the rats are not very good)

royal herald
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rats do exactly what they're supposed to

final estuary
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be rats

royal herald
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be an annoyance in the middle of fights

reef pecan
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i feel like the idea of "shitty throwaway enemy" like the shitty zombies in doom 2016 could be executed better than making a walking hitbox that goes in a straight line

final estuary
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rats are supposed to be the little shitbag creatures that get in the way

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||why do you think a secret level is full of em||

reef pecan
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like what if they tried to hide behind props and then when you broke the prop they would fuck off in some random direction and if you jumped on them they would instagib

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like "lol take that shitlord!1" not

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"oh shit a RAT (better hold the S key)"

royal herald
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I don't understand the hate of rats. If they weren't in the game it would be worst off.

final estuary
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if you could step on rats that would be funny as hell

reef pecan
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well they're an atmospheric enemy, to my understanding

gleaming berry
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when the SDK is out y'all can modify enemy behavior however you wish

reef pecan
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they're not supposed to be actual enemies

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they're kinda there like

opal plover
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Yeah absolutely

final estuary
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they are mostly there for the ambience

gleaming berry
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I look forward to those mods

royal herald
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yeah, they're annoyances

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that's their point

reef pecan
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like this

opal plover
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Way more so than annoyances imo

gleaming berry
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OH SHIT

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A RAT

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lmao

reef pecan
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well that's what i'm saying

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the idea of "shitty annoying enemy that isnt actually an enemy they just kind of exist because theyre a punchline" could be executed better than "hitbox that goes in a straight line"

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because when they're a hitbox that goes in a straight line that forces the player to press the S key

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and what do u do to shitty enemies that aren't supposed to do anything?

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kill them with style

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that's funny :)

opal plover
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The possessed in Doom 2016 basically stood around and were gibbing bait

tawdry cloak
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but would you also want to try to hit an enemy (that's already weird to hit with melee) that is moving in a zigzag pattern, or other kind of unpredictable way?

opal plover
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And that was fun imo

gleaming berry
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remember before they had noises?

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so they were like silent lol

reef pecan
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well ye, because the shitty zombies in doom 2016 fulfill a smart role within the design of the game

crystal vessel
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I remember when Wendigos were harder

final estuary
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not really

crystal vessel
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Good times tbh

reef pecan
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low on health? you can kill the idiot that basically does nothing but stand still and get a million health

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they're pinatas

final estuary
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well yeah but does that really make the game more challenging?

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not really

opal plover
#

Not gonna post the wikipedia link because the images are disgustang but missed opportunity to have those as pain elementals for rats

reef pecan
#

rats walk in a straight line at u and force the player to walk backwards and thats not as Funny™ as it could be

minor osprey
#

I use my riveter exclusively for rats

royal herald
#

if you're walking backwards against rats you just fear them

#

try shooting them

crystal vessel
#

^

opaque spindle
#

having to walk backwards

reef pecan
#

i mean. what else? walk forward at them and risk getting ur toes nibbled?

opaque spindle
#

why don't you shoot them

final estuary
#

oh my god ew

opaque spindle
#

yea

final estuary
#

that image for the rat king

#

that is fucking disgusting

royal herald
#

no, shoot them.

opaque spindle
#

It is schut game

reef pecan
#

walking backwards while shooting is tactically a better idea than walking forward at the hitbox that is also walking towards you

opaque spindle
#

u schut them

crystal vessel
#

Only time I slammed my S key was when it was a horde of rats

opaque spindle
#

^

crystal vessel
#

Just to back up and blow em up really

final estuary
#

reserve the mortar for rats

minor osprey
#

^

final estuary
#

it makes the weapon useful

tawdry cloak
#

I like to just strafejump around the rats while expending all my assault rifle ammo

royal herald
#

also backup riveter

final estuary
#

i think in the entire campaign the weapon i used the least was the mortar

tawdry cloak
#

Agree

reef pecan
#

honestly when i fight the rats i stand still rather than try to move because they take like 2 shots to kill because if i can hit just 1 or 2 good shots they gib

#

and if im moving its harder to hit those shots

#

on the tiny little baby enemy

royal herald
#

will we see goat playermodel in duskworld

final estuary
#

dude

royal herald
#

woops probably the wrong channel but uhm yeah

final estuary
#

duuuuuuude

#

fuckin goat gang

opaque spindle
#

Might be a holdover from when there was a goat player model when Duskworld was really early in development

tawdry cloak
#

If I can spit blood at people I'm down

final estuary
#

i'd really want the priestess as a playermodel

#

even though it would have a big hitbox

reef pecan
#

oh and also the fact that player models have different hitboxes and if you use the cart dog you're throwing is laaaaaame

royal herald
#

we should shrink some of the larger models

reef pecan
#

like let us use what player models we want

#

ye exactly

#

not like whatever has the best hitbox

gleaming berry
#

grenades r best for rats

tawdry cloak
#

I want to be those resurrected knights on E3

gleaming berry
#

which is why we give u the nade launcher in ratacombs

final estuary
#

yeah i use the scarecrow cause it looks cool but it's on the bigger hitbox size

reef pecan
#

I enjoyed the rat boss at the end of the ratacombs

#

Because it like, has AI that supports the fundamental design of the game

opaque spindle
#

ratacombs is the best level and no one can convince me otherwise

opal plover
gleaming berry
#

oh yeah CTG

reef pecan
#

Instead of holding S, you gotta move s i d e t o s i d e

opaque spindle
#

It is the most harmless level ever but it is hated with a passion

reef pecan
#

and that's e p i c

final estuary
#

capture the goat

#

please

gleaming berry
#

I mean if more than like 12 people played duskworld

final estuary
#

i need

gleaming berry
#

we'd probably get around to adding CTF

tawdry cloak
#

tbh I just can't hit anyone on Duskworld lmao

final estuary
#

you'll learn

gleaming berry
#

we're gonna delet duskworld

#

it's not as good as CSGO

tawdry cloak
#

no don't delet

final estuary
#

i'm not even really that great at dw

reef pecan
#

I think that CTF would be a bit weird in Dusk unless it was executed with an interesting twist

final estuary
#

but dave if you delete duskworld what will brawndo play

#

the poor boi will have nothing

royal herald
#

he'll delete dusk then

tawdry cloak
#

CTF should feel like a race once you have the flag because of how fast strafejumping it

royal herald
#

I can't go back to singleplayer, not like this

#

brawndo must be contained

final estuary
#

inb4 janky dusk multiplayer mod to replace duskworld

#

that crashes every second

reef pecan
#

if ctf was in dusk the map design would have to be really really good

final estuary
#

yeah, i feel like open arenas like erebus would be out of the question

tawdry cloak
#

most def

final estuary
#

there would have to be specific maps for ctf

reef pecan
#

because everything in dusk is super good at like

#

doing damage

#

and killing shit that are playing defensively

tawdry cloak
#

i think some closed off areas would feel really good in DUSK for ctf

reef pecan
#

like the crossbow literally shoots thru walls and in multiplayer it does like 150 damage

final estuary
#

we need 2fort in dusk

#

2dusk

tawdry cloak
#

FEAR Combat has some really fun CTF maps

reef pecan
#

you can shoot into the flag room and whoever wants to defend the flag dies instantly

#

the crossbow is the best weapon in single player dusk btw

#

prove me wrong

gleaming berry
#

the twist is

#

the flag is a goat that's a prop

#

and it walks around

#

and u can throw it

tawdry cloak
#

my favorite was always the dual lever shotguns

gleaming berry
#

which is hilarious

#

it's like rocket league

reef pecan
#

the crossbow is good because it rewards players for abusing the "shoot thru everything!!! mechanic"

gleaming berry
#

... with a goat

final estuary
#

we need capture the goat

reef pecan
#

on neobabel when you flip inside of the blue door room, a bunch of soldiers come out of the walls

#

and they're all lined up in a straight line

final estuary
#

is it like battleblock's capture the pig where you have to ride the goat to your goal

reef pecan
#

so if u use your brain a little bit

tawdry cloak
#

capture the goat would be the GoaT

reef pecan
#

you can kill like 10 soldiers in a straight line before the fight even starts

#

the crossbow is very epic and very abusable

#

and i think that thats kind of part of the core design of the game

final estuary
#

gote

reef pecan
#

exploiting mechanics and rewarding mechanics being used to their full potential

opal plover
#

The goat being a prop would probably single handedly ressurect DW

#

That sounds so fun

#

Also make it so we can pet the gote if possible

tawdry cloak
#

I also want to throw the goat like a football to my teammates

final estuary
#

pat the gote

#

s l a p the explosive barrel

#

shake sickle at god

#

ouch oof the lava is too hot

tawdry cloak
#

DUUH DUH DUN
DUUUUUUUUHdun
DUHDUHDUHDUH
DUUH DUH DUN
DUUUUUUUUHdun

dapper spire
#

hup hup hup super shotgun shot

#

assault rifle sounds

reef pecan
#

Btw

dapper spire
#

hup hup hup

reef pecan
#

About the whole "you can make whatever you want in the sdk!" thing

#

question: what if my brain is very small

#

and even though i know what i want to do with the sdk

#

my brain is too small to do the shit i want to do

brave egret
#

what

reef pecan
#

so you see

chilly holly
#

i this this man is saying: Is sdk hard to use?

reef pecan
#

to do whatever you want in the sdk, you need to be able to operate the sdk by having knowledge of how the program works

#

however, monkey brain says

tawdry cloak
#

I just wanna make levels

reef pecan
#

"hmm i am perhaps too stupid to operate this program"

gleaming berry
#

go get TrenchBroom

#

learn it

#

love it

tawdry cloak
#

🤔

crimson folio
#

If you want new entities you need big brain

dapper spire
#

hi Dave

reef pecan
#

and then because i am too stupid, i cannot operate the program

gleaming berry
#

you will master it

brave egret
#

don

#

enter key is right next to apostrophe

tawdry cloak
#

wait I can make levels for DUSK right now, in trenchbroom, and actually play them?

brave egret
#

don't think ur dum lmao, just do it

crimson folio
#

you can play them in quake :v)

tawdry cloak
#

😢

dapper spire
#

oh shit it’s Jakob

opal plover
#

Also the msot important mapping tip you'll ever learn as a biginner: "Don't be afraid to look at reference!"

brave egret
#

unironically beating yourself up is not going to get you anywhere

#

just learn lmao

#

programming is ez

reef pecan
#

i mean i have hella ideas for things i want to implement

#

but they are very very ambitious

#

there is one of me

#

(1)

#

:(

opaque spindle
#

just gotta learn

tawdry cloak
#

Gonna learn trenchbroom soon

brave egret
#

If there's a will there's a way, or some other platitude

#

yeah trenchbroom is pretty intuitive

#

ezpz

tawdry cloak
#

Even if it takes me all night

opal plover
#

What kind of stuff you planning Atlantic?

tawdry cloak
#

well I struggled with hammer tbh so I haven't tried other level builders 😦

dapper spire
#

Max Action in Dusk?

reef pecan
#

i can make a mean Super Mario Maker level

opal plover
#

I've been making Dusk maps for a bit and I'd like to help

reef pecan
#

does that count

tawdry cloak
#

I want to build more horror stuff

dapper spire
#

yes please

tawdry cloak
#

I LOVE E1

crimson folio
#

trench broom is like 3 times better then hammer

brave egret
#

^

opal plover
#

It is

tawdry cloak
#

Max Action in DUSK would be super cool
Active ragdolls when SDK? 🤔

#

Well good to know

gleaming berry
#

lol @dusty sigil would love that

brave egret
#

brutal dusk

tawdry cloak
#

I will be diving in, for sure.

gleaming berry
#

ragdolls in every game

dapper spire
#

rag dolls make a game 100x better

tawdry cloak
#

Shooting people in DUSK would feel so much more satisfying tbh

#

like I want to super shotgun blast cultists off the bridge in E3M3

reef pecan
#

i think ragdolls in dusk would be funny but wouldn't be great stylistically

tawdry cloak
#

I agree, definitely doesn't really fit the style

reef pecan
#

like ragdolls in video games are never good

#

never

dapper spire
#

it’s funny as hell though

tawdry cloak
#

? o.O

reef pecan
#

but they are funny

brave egret
#

bruh moment

reef pecan
#

i have never once looked at a ragdoll in a video game and thought

opal plover
#

Houston we have a bruh moment

reef pecan
#

"yes that is a realistic portrayal of a dead person"

opal plover
#

Uh yeah well

tawdry cloak
#

i've never felt like they were supposed to be lol

reef pecan
#

Well I'm sure in games like Skyrim, the intention is that "dead person = ragdoll :3"

opal plover
#

You see you're dead wrong on that luigi

reef pecan
#

but they dont make me think "dead person"

dapper spire
#

welcome to general 2

reef pecan
#

they make me think

#

"funny video game ragdoll"

tawdry cloak
#

It's just fun diving out of your car going 80mph in GTA IV and watching Niko bounce around before being hit head on by a semi.

reef pecan
#

well the reason we're talking about ragdolls is because we're talking about ragdolls in dusk

crimson folio
#

every channel is general

opal plover
#

Because when you have a ragdoll you clearly have a dead human corpse right before rigor mortis and uhh well you see uhhh

reef pecan
#

i guess gta IV ragdolls are "close enough"

opal plover
#

Honestly it could work if it played the regular death animation, THEN the ragdoll

reef pecan
#

but not like perfect

final estuary
#

i have a little bit of knowledge on how to use hammer but how is trenchbroom?

reef pecan
#

but i mean look at the ragdolls in breath of the wild

#

they are genuinely so unrealistic its impressive

#

i dont know how nintendo managed to do it

queen coral
#

realism in this sort of scenario isn't really desireable

crimson folio
queen coral
#

either you'll get close enough that the missing bits make it really god damned uncanny, or it is too gruesome for a lot of people

opal plover
#

The best TB tutorials

#

The only TB tutorials in fact

final estuary
#

i'm sure the controls won't be hard for me to learn but the problem i have is scale

tawdry cloak
#

Now I just need Quake so I can test my maps

final estuary
#

idk how to get a good sense of map scale

crimson folio
#

not me either tbh

queen coral
#

Amid Manniacc: Also the msot important mapping tip you'll ever learn as a biginner: "Don't be afraid to look at reference!"

#

this.

#

place a model somewhere on the map, and use photo or other maps as reference to how you should scale things up

final estuary
#

i want to make some horror map themed around winter and the wendigo

#

when sdk releases

#

as well as my guns mod which i haven't been doing any work on

queen coral
#

on the beginning you'll have a tough time, but eventually it becomes second nature

reef pecan
#

i think ragdolls in dusk would more realistically be

death animation
the body jitters as it transitions from animation - ragdoll
sometimes in dusk ragdolls just go flying for some reason so they would do air cartwheels all the time
if it falls off of something they land in a hilariously over the top pose with their arms clipping into their body
because of how much shit you kill in dusk you would get negative framerate
etc

final estuary
#

yeah ragdolls in dusk isn't a good idea

reef pecan
#

but it would be funny

#

sometimes

queen coral
#

fuck ragdolls

final estuary
#

besides imagine the code needed to make ragdoll physics

opal plover
#

Kinky

queen coral
#

gibs > shitty ragdolls

tawdry cloak
#

true indeed @final estuary

queen coral
#

also I'd rather have something akin to Chasm than good ragdolls in Dusk

opal plover
#

Dismemberment?

tawdry cloak
#

dismemberment would be cool

opal plover
#

Because that's gonna be the example mod that's gonna come with the SDK

gleaming berry
#

zombie made the enemies gib in sdk

#

we can do dismember

#

I think we messed aroundn with headshots once

#

and decapitations

crimson folio
#

oh boi

tawdry cloak
#

Quake is $2.50 on Steam???

#

Trenchbroom here we come

simple pilot
#

trenchbroom is dum

#

it doesnt open every bsp file ever 😠

slate edge
#

Thats being worked on

crimson folio
#

what

compact nova
#

anyone know how to access the graphic novel? I just bought the Intruder edition upgrade last night and I dont know what to look for

prisma halo
tawdry cloak
#

lmaoo

#

I need a secret area inside his nostrils

prisma halo
#

it was generated from the cartdog model

#

(although it's a convex decomposition by the V-HACD library, so it's not 100% accurate to the original geometry, as I'm sure you can tell even in that screenshot)

slow harness
#

@compact nova dusk steam folder > DLC > Graphic novel

compact nova
#

thenk u

short sage
#

Why is DUSK taking so long to load?

gleaming berry
#

new language stuff

#

only the first time

slow harness
#

Wait another language added? @gleaming berry

#

Sorry to ping you

#

Or just some features for all languages?

vague egret
#

it was the localization update from last week

slow harness
#

Bruh

#

Are you humans working on another language?

vague egret
#

wut

slow harness
#

Are the dusk homies working on putting another language in the game?

gleaming berry
#

It's localized in Chinese

#

there's a language menu now

#

we translated the game into 14 languages

#

did u see the latest update?

#

@graceful wing make sure the bot is linking the latest update

slow harness
#

I didn't see the latest one

#

When did you ship it

vague egret
#

last week

gleaming berry
slow harness
#

"We translated the game into 14 languages"

gleaming berry
#

yeah we'll be implementing more of them soon

#

but chinese is live

slow harness
#

Oh

#

K

#

Thought you already implemented

graceful wing
#

the bot's shill is still accurate. i can add the steam announcement though np 👌

slow harness
#

But you juat have the text

#

When will you implement the next lang? breen

vague egret
#

when its done

slow harness
#

Bruuh

tawdry cloak
#

And so the adventure begins.

gleaming berry
#

GLHF

#

excited to see what y'all do

tawdry cloak
#

Thank you sir! Hopefully I can make something exciting!

storm fox
#

lel

slow harness
#

Altanic really be doing a whole fortnite map

storm fox
#

aight

crimson folio
#

o shit atlantic out here getting the dev fever

#

anyone know where this line is from FLAVOR_THANKS_CONSTANTINE = "thanks constantine";

gleaming berry
#

when u get the sword

#

in escher labs

crimson folio
#

ah thanks dave

gleaming berry
#

in the Thief 1 hallway

#

hence the reference 😃

visual aurora
#

oh that's what that meant

storm fox
#

now there's a game i own and have yet to play

gleaming berry
#

YOU HAVENT PLAYED THIEF

#

BLASPHEMY

#

and not like E3M5 blasphemy

#

actual blasphemy

vale oar
#

actuak

storm fox
#

fixing that right away

tawdry cloak
#

Nice

jagged ferry
#

i too have committed thief purchase

visual aurora
slow harness
#

Maybe he is dave 🤔

#

Never thought of that @visual aurora

visual aurora
#

i mean

#

possibly

crystal vessel
#

Vince is too tall

flat juniper
#

oh fug, I didn't look close enough at the update on June 20th

SDK is this summer? weeeeeeeeeeeeee

#

I was getting a bit worried that it might still be half a year or so out

visual aurora
#

the first day be like

#

E1M1

#

that's it it's just e1m1

simple pilot
#

the first day be like

#

arcane dimensions fully ported to dusk

crimson folio
#

well I mean if you code all the entities..

gleaming berry
#

SDK is pretty close

#

SOOOOON

visual aurora
#

OOOOOO

storm fox
tawdry cloak
crimson folio
#

BIG HYPE

olive cloud
#

OOOOOOOOOO

slow harness
#

Someone better make blood e1m1

sleek cape
#

@storm fox You might want to get the TFix and TafferPatcher fixes for Thief 1 and 2, respectively. There are also some beautiful HD texture mod packs if you so desire to make it look better.

storm fox
#

thanks, ill keep it in mind

#

most unreal games need some patch to work properly anyway so i figured

sleek cape
#

Yup. Windows 98, single processor core games can be a BITCH to get running on modern machines.

queen coral
#

TFix is a god damned must for thief

#

also a lot of patience to rebind keys so the game is actually playable

mild ginkgo
#

Yes

#

It is

#

There's some good binding presets on the steam community for it

sleek cape
#

I basically made it a modern layout, but with Tab still bound as the non-weapon item cycling key.

#

I have only one mousewheel, and it cycles my weapons.

turbid loom
#

I just finished E3M4, jesus christ those mini jumpscares, man

#

I love it

jagged ferry
#

hallowed health:
||bone balls:|| allow us to introduce ourselves

dapper spire
#

also ||bone balls:||loud ass screeching

crimson folio
#

They also shoot out a seemingly infinite number of skulls at you, now that's metal....

chilly minnow
#

hunting rife: im about to
also hunting rifle: end this man's career

crimson folio
#

The Huning rifle basically functions like a rail gun when you think about it.

final estuary
crimson folio
#

Is a bone ball

final estuary
#

BONE BOY

vale oar
#

not boy but boi

final estuary
#

no

#

bone boy

#

with a y

simple pilot
#

its bone boi

#

with a i

minor remnant
#

bone boy

crimson folio
#

Guys you should check out dusk

#

hey thanks man

#

no problem fam

grand zodiac
#

Guys Dusk is out

simple pilot
#

ive got idea

#

When Dawn comes out

#

GREZZO 2 (NSFW content)

#

But in DUSK

crimson folio
#

Okey I just had to look this up and it looks amazing

simple pilot
#

(without unnecessary gory imagery and being offensive without reason)

opal plover
#

Can't you only really understand Grezzo if you're italian though

simple pilot
#

you dont need to know macaroni to notice it's all vulgar i think

opal plover
#

tbh you need a very high IQ to understand Grezzo 2

#

Just saying😏

crimson folio
#

lmao

simple pilot
#

👺

opal plover
#

Don't feel bad about yourselves, it's not you fault you don't have a superior intellect😏

simple pilot
#

no, its just how i smile

#

like this

#

👺

gleaming berry
#

Grezzo Due 2

#

The game to end all games

crimson folio
#

Grezzo 2 2

opal plover
#

Grezzo Eternal

mild chasm
#

Grezzo immortal

grand zodiac
#

Grezzo: The Quackening

sharp sparrow
#

Maximum Grezzo

tardy slate
#

Grezzo Meets Shrek

queen coral
#

Grezzo Forever

#

Feat. Dante from the Devil May Cry series

crimson folio
#

Amazing

crimson folio
#

Grezzocaster

opal plover
#

Grezzo 2: Electric Boogaloo

simple pilot
#

Brutal Grezzo 2

opal plover
#

Grezzo 2 Project Brutality

#

Hunt down the Piro

fair mirage
viral gate
minor remnant
#

grezzo world

restive sequoia
#

y'all heard of

#

Dusk

noble arrow
#

nah mate what’s it about

grand zodiac
#

dusk is dead

noble arrow
#

sorry for your loss

spare cobalt
#

not that it was ever alive

#

you could say nothing has changed

crimson folio
#

ywn get to have a 90's style ad for Dusk with Billy Mays narrating it

#

it hurts ;-;

olive cloud
#

quakecon?

minor remnant
#

whats a dusk

vague egret
#

probably not QC. a good chunk of NB is going to be busy playing vidya and getting wasted.

slow harness
#

Wait is there a duke quote about getting wasted

#

Because i feel like there is

chilly minnow
#

Here's a hot take, the animated cat movie Felidae(1994) has the same plot as DUSK.

restive sequoia
#

weird way of spelling Felix the Cat, my man

chilly minnow
#

it's a different movie

noble arrow
#

nah same thing

glass pulsar
#

So the resolution on my game on an older computer won't change when I click it, it displays as 1928x1080 which nukes my fps

mild ginkgo
#

Try deleting your config file then running the game

#

You should be able to change it then @glass pulsar

glass pulsar
#

Alright

chilly minnow
#

when the SDK comes out, there will be a nu-metal soundtrack for DUSK

olive cloud
#

I'VE

#

BECOME SO NUMB

final estuary
#

Dusk: 2005 Rock Edition

olive cloud
#

EATING SEATS AS A

#

PAST TIME ACTIVITY

dapper spire
#

someone is gonna do that

#

also rank up

#

cool

olive cloud
#

INTRODUCING THE CHOCOLATE STARFISH

wheat zinc
#

Duskcon when

vague egret
#

QC

#

most of us go there

still swift
#

is there any computer that can't run this game

final estuary
#

actually yes

sour willow
#

i have three, probably

final estuary
#

older pcs ironically can't run dusk

still swift
#

damn.

#

I have to run this game on an intel card because of driver issues

#

and it's still totally playable

sour willow
#

what engine does dusk run on?

still swift
#

my guess would be unity

dapper spire
#

yeah it’s unity

still swift
#

that's my litmus test for if a game is made in unity

#

step one: does my computer display anything? at all?

#

if no: probably unity

sour willow
#

yeah unity

#

i can tell by file structure

#

and by the blatantly obvious unity-named files

balmy sluice
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It's not like they're trying to hide it or anything.

tawdry cloak
crimson folio
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A flesh cave.

final estuary
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f l e s h

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don't worry, the level isn't breathing

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i think

crimson folio
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...do people actually like this game?

final estuary
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yeah why

crimson folio
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i just peeped through a review on it

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if you check through negative reviews

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the top one really says something revealing

dapper spire
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what does it say?

crimson folio
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same guy made a video on it too

smoky sigil
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Is it the post about music being in the memory cache or something like that

crimson folio
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no

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"LOOK AT THE TOP REVIEWS THEY ALL HAVE LOW HOURS AND MOST HAVE 0 HOURS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING! "

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is it okay if i post the video here?

dapper spire
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sure

tawdry cloak
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can't tell if trolling or not 🤔

dapper spire
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same

crimson folio
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i can't post it

dapper spire
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oof

crimson folio
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watch?v=K97XBdAX40M

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here

smoky sigil
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I'm looking at the reviews and they're around 5 - 10 hours

dapper spire
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that’s kinda how long the game is

smoky sigil
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Yeah

dapper spire
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I think I finished my first run with 10 hours on the game

smoky sigil
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I think that guy who posted the review doesn't understand that retro FPSes are usually around that length

crimson folio
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um

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no

tawdry cloak
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people actually don't like DUSK? 🤔

crimson folio
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it was at the time

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that people had 3 hours im guessing

smoky sigil
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Oh

dapper spire
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I mean, 3 hours in is like a 1/3 of the game

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that’s kinda long

smoky sigil
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Still, I think that's long enough to properly gauge the quality of a game like this

crimson folio
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but they'd actually have little to no hours for the past 2 weeks

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during the review

dapper spire
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maybe they’re playing other games other than dusk?

tawdry cloak
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also, I would never base a purchase off of someone who has less than like 4 hours in a game

dapper spire
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yeah

crimson folio
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um

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the game just came out at the time though

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wait

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nvm

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hold on

smoky sigil
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Were they Early Access reviews

dapper spire
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what’s the date for the review?

crimson folio
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Jul 3, 2019

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he was streaming the game too

dapper spire
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that was literally yesterday

crimson folio
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you watchin the vid?

balmy sluice
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Who cares what a youtuber says tbh. Try the game if you're interested, if you hate it, refund it.

dapper spire
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^

crimson folio
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huh

dapper spire
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oh no someone doesn’t like a game

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that means I don’t like it too

tawdry cloak
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I didn't think his video was particularly convincing of the game being bad either, honestly.

crimson folio
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alright

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can you check how many people are playing at the time

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(this time)

smoky sigil
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He called the lava "instakill"

dapper spire
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pfft

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it’s not even instakill

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it takes time for it to actually kill you if you’re not moving

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and you always have to be moving

final estuary
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oh boy are we talking about The Funny Video™ again?

balmy sluice
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@crimson folio are you only interested in multiplayer?

final estuary
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i thought this conversation was done two days ago

crimson folio
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When I time it right, I take no damage at all

dapper spire
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@final estuary I didn’t even see this conversation

crimson folio
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i haven't tried the game yet actually

final estuary
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the lava on vestibule is instakill, yes

crimson folio
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just interested in getting it

final estuary
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but the lava on every other map isn't

smoky sigil
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Huh

final estuary
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it's cause that's the price to pay for not knowing how to jump around to get the HH

crimson folio
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multiplayer is my main point anyways though

final estuary
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which sadly idk how to do

dapper spire
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just learn how to strafe hop then you’re fine

balmy sluice
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Well, it unfortunately is and will always be a niche indie game with a small playerbase. It's primarily a single player game with multiplayer thrown in for those who want it.

dapper spire
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yeah, multiplayer isn’t big in Dusk

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it’s the campaign

final estuary
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there's only like 7 people that regularly play it

crimson folio
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Everyone's on FN.

dapper spire
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multiplayer is still fun as hell though

mild ginkgo
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@crimson folio the reason those people didn't have hours in the past 2 weeks was due to the steam event that encourages you to review games

crimson folio
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I'm not big on multiplayer myself.

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really?

final estuary
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yeah

crimson folio
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I like to feel like I'm actually good at games by pwning bots

smoky sigil
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Also he said that you can ignore everything by bunnyhopping, even though there's special marks for not killing anything

mild ginkgo
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Yes, really

dapper spire
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only multiplayer game I play is team fortress 2

final estuary
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high review traffic around this time

mild ginkgo
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You can find people with over 100 hours in the game

crimson folio
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i can see that

mild ginkgo
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Our game came out in decemver

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We have 1000 reviews in the last week

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You can check the graph

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And that's because of the steam event

final estuary
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i've been trying to get back into duksworld lately but am being crushed by brawndo as usual

mild ginkgo
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Has nothing to do with some grand conspiracy, or have anything to do with the game itself

final estuary
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..and regrettably other players

crimson folio
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hm

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it was just kinda strange