#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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rough ivy
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Smh at least spell S.T.A.L.K.E.R. correctly

simple pilot
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@crimson folio from SiN

crimson folio
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That's really painstaking and pedantic.

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Oh, ok.

visual aurora
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doom 2

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Serious Sam

simple pilot
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but TFE and TSE as separate titles?

rough ivy
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Just copy and paste

crimson folio
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Do you want First and Second as seperate, or the same?

rough ivy
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Smh

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Lol first and second encounters are literally the same game

simple pilot
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not level wise.

rough ivy
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Just big gm_flatgrass

simple pilot
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xd

visual aurora
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LMAO

rough ivy
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Hold s and m1 to win serious sam

crimson folio
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Let's put in Garry's Mod, and all vote for that

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We want Serious Sam 2 as well?

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Well do you guys thing this is sufficient? Or do we need more?

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Cuz I'm positive there's some I'm forgetting

graceful wing
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SS 2

rough ivy
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Just remove serious sam altogether and make it easier

graceful wing
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remove everything but 2

rough ivy
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True

visual aurora
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Avain no

rough ivy
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So we get 3 serious sam entries why not half life 2? And it's episodes? Or quakes expaisons?

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Smh at least keep it consistent

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Exposed

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Half life opposing force is the obvious win

crimson folio
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You didn't mention them mate. Mind I did forget Half Life 2

rough ivy
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Just have serious sam and serious sam 2

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Bundle the first and second encounters together and serious sam 3 doesn't even deserve to be on the list

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smdh forgetting half life 2

crimson folio
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Alright this is what it looks like

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Fuck it, it's good as.

rough ivy
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lol now its good

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drop the link kiddo

crimson folio
rough ivy
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oh god now i cant choose

broken badger
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no halo makes me sad

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: (

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then i again i should've said something

crimson folio
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That's a modern-styled FPS, we're more talking about the classics

broken badger
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not halo ce, at least?

simple pilot
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Stalker isnt retro styled.

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or is it?

rough ivy
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👀

simple pilot
mild ginkgo
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@thorn trout use your twitter famous power so we can get votes on this

rough ivy
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stop complaining just vote

simple pilot
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everyone will pick Dusk

crimson folio
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I just put down names.

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I haven't actually played all of these.

simple pilot
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cannot pick more than one

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fudge

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its impossible to pick

crimson folio
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Does that mean it's a good list?

thorn trout
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@mild ginkgo say what now?

crimson folio
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We made a strawpoll

simple pilot
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well its quite easy

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not to pick SiN

mild ginkgo
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this strawpo

simple pilot
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because its not jawdropping as the other titles

mild ginkgo
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so we can get eyes on it to determine which game holds the best level

crimson folio
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Inb4 Dusk just wins by a landslide

rough ivy
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vote quake guys

graceful wing
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sam 2

crimson folio
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I voted for Half Life because I actually don't know what else I'd pick.

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Is SS2 really that good Avain, or are you pulling my leg?

mild ginkgo
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avain is a troll

rough ivy
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ss2 is a big fat meh

graceful wing
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no i'm not

simple pilot
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Quake 2 should win

graceful wing
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prove it

simple pilot
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obviously

crimson folio
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Quack tuhhh

rough ivy
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quake 2 BIG GUN

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DESTROY BIG GUN

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BIG GUN DESTROYED

crimson folio
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"kill me!!11!one!!! do it nauuuuu!!!!!1!1!eleven!!!!!!!"

winged otter
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all of these games have great levels, dunno what to vote

rough ivy
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quake

short sage
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Half-Life is 3rd

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wa

crimson folio
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It's second now.

rough ivy
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how the fuck is doom winning

broken badger
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cause doom 1 has great levels

rough ivy
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no

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knee deep in the dead is good but the rest of doom is shit

crimson folio
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I think it's just cuz of... Idk recognition? People know what Doom is no matter who they are

rough ivy
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tru

short sage
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Brutal Doom doesn't count

broken badger
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your pfp is great

short sage
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me?

broken badger
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yes

short sage
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uh

rough ivy
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round up and publicly execute humiliate everyone who has brutal doom installed

broken badger
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lmao

short sage
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uh

crimson folio
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I mean like. I haven't played Brutal Doom. But why doesn't anyone like it?

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Like it's fine

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It's a gore mod with gameplay changes

rough ivy
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Aim down sights

broken badger
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its fine, but people have a problem with sgt mark 4 who's a huge dickhead apparently

rough ivy
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In doom 🤢

broken badger
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project brutality is fine actually'

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but the huds for both are way too busy and crowded

rough ivy
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Johnny doom

crimson folio
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You do that all the time though. Like every time you're holding a weapon

rough ivy
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U dummy

simple pilot
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Brutal Doom has amazing level design

crimson folio
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They say that Romaero himself came and designed the levels.

royal herald
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@rough ivy you don't have to ADS in fact it's pretty useless to do so

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actually I think the only weapon you can ads with is the shotgun and the rifle

simple pilot
royal herald
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wait nah rocket launcher as a literally useless scope and the railgun has an understandably implemented scope

short sage
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Beautiful Doom with Doomvisor Hud and Bolognese Gore Mod is best mod

crimson folio
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It looks like Doom sorta wins out

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Should I ping everyone like a fuckin' dick and get them to vote?

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Or should we leave it at that

graceful wing
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nah, that's disabled here for very obvious reasons

crimson folio
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Oh. Huh

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Attempts to @ everyone

rough ivy
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@everyone

royal herald
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I knew DOOM would work

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win*

crimson folio
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Guess it sorta deserves it

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OH FUCK

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I forgot Wolfenstein!

rough ivy
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which one

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wolf3d has terrible levels

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but thats due to the technology

graceful wing
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the old ones are just a bunch of boxes so definitely not them lul

crimson folio
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Eh yeah I guess

rough ivy
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the new order is one of my favorite games of all time but its levels are completely forgettable

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and we dont talk about the other ones

winged otter
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Doom levels are MUCH better than Wolf 3D, such a progress in just 2 years

broken badger
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what? i liked the wolfenstein reboots

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legit enjoyed those

mild chasm
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Call of Dooty

broken badger
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even if the final level of wolf colossus is a bit asinine

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the bosses were just weirdly hard

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i remember it took me a while to beat those two things

grand zodiac
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Old blood > new order

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And that's a fact

rough ivy
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i couldnt get into the old blood

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and the boss 🤢

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though i did scream with glee when the nazi zombies showed up loi

crimson folio
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It's pretty insane that one of the first 3d games ever, Doom, still has fans today. Like it's been... a quarter of a century

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And how advanced it was at the time

dapper spire
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it’s because of modding

crimson folio
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Yeah. But most games don't last as long as this. Hell, I don't see Skyrim being the mod game to go to when the next Elder Scrolls pops out of Todd's anus.

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I guess Doom is just like

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Really special

rough ivy
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without source ports doom would be dead

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whats really impressive is how long half life has lasted

royal herald
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I don't think half life has "lasted"

dapper spire
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yeah, it’s more just “held on”

crimson folio
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Cry of Fear?

muted jolt
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it's the mechanics of the gold scr

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it's just neat to play

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remeber it's the same as Quake engine so that's cool

crimson folio
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... I gotta admit, I'm pretty hyped for Wrath

dapper spire
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yo same

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looks super good

muted jolt
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mechanics are neato

blissful mesa
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I voted Dusk just because of Erebus and Escher

muted jolt
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the blade as meele and move weapon

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movement*

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it's neato

blissful mesa
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Oh lol I was like an hour behind on discord

crimson folio
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Episode 2 is a big favourite isn't it?

dapper spire
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mostly because of Escher and Erebus

blissful mesa
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E2 and E3 are both equal in my eyes

dapper spire
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I don’t blame them though, Escher and Erebus are pretty good levels

blissful mesa
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When we go full Lovecraft eldritch architecture just fuck me up fam. I love E3 for atmosphere

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Blasphemy is wild. The tornado was a legitimate "Oh god Oh Fuck What is that?!?!" Moment for me that I havnt had since the hotel in Vampire

crimson folio
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I really have a soft spot for Ep 1

blissful mesa
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Old Time Religion is really good. Like really really good. Standout of the episode for me

dapper spire
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cutty mine was scary

visual aurora
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the tornado in DUSK was fucking unreal

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It really was

simple pilot
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episode 2 has several standouts

blissful mesa
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opens yellow door, Jakob just laughs as cowgirls spawn behind you

dapper spire
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that’s scared me when I first played

visual aurora
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"episode insert number here in Dusk was good"

blissful mesa
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Lmao yeah @visual aurora

dapper spire
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every episode is good

crimson folio
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Old Time Religion... I really struggle to not call that my favourite episode

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Level even

visual aurora
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You know you made a good game

simple pilot
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just good?

crimson folio
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It's so fucking good

visual aurora
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when your fanbase struggles to find the best episode

proven bobcat
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is gud

crimson folio
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Atmosphere is tight

blissful mesa
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I can't wait to see what the community does with the sdk. I hope we get some really wild shit

visual aurora
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first up

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E1M1

blissful mesa
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Ofc

visual aurora
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then all of doom

dapper spire
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second

visual aurora
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quake

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blood

broken badger
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that tornado gave me courage the cowardly dog vibes

simple pilot
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just fucking good?

broken badger
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especially with how isolated that little house was too

blissful mesa
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@broken badger Return the slaaaab or suffer my cuuuuurse

broken badger
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christ that show is creepy as hell

blissful mesa
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Freaked me out as a kid. Some episodes still do as a grown ass man

crimson folio
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I'm not really sure what I think of Head Cheese. I also don't know why Dave called it Head Cheese

dapper spire
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yeah, always thought it was a weird name for a level

royal herald
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leathernecks are a reference to texas chainsaw massacre

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a line in the movie is headcheese

crimson folio
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Ahhh

noble arrow
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i want to get dusk but i don’t want to spend 20 dollars

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what do i do

royal herald
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spend 20 dollars it is worth it

crimson folio
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It may be on sale on the summer sale

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Which happens in 5 days.

noble arrow
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it probably will be

dapper spire
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it’s is very worth it

crimson folio
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It's also very good

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It's worth full price

thorn trout
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It's going to be on sale

noble arrow
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i’ve got 40 bucks left so i think i want to save my money

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neat

dapper spire
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for what?

thorn trout
royal herald
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whoah "nearly ready"

dapper spire
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thanks dusk dad

royal herald
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I think avain gave us a 6 month window already so this is big news if it's "almost ready"

crimson folio
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It'll only take 5 months-

noble arrow
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dusk is just quake but not

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change my mind

dapper spire
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dusk is just quake and blood

simple pilot
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@thorn trout whats the scale compared to quake maps?

noble arrow
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quake already has blood

simple pilot
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cuz i want to experiment on big vertical level

dapper spire
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quake and blood the 1997 game

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I think it came out in 1997

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not sure

blissful mesa
simple pilot
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i dont wanna start over cuz i took wrong measures

noble arrow
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sal is in jail

mild chasm
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Will the SDK have beta testing akin to the Duskworld beta or will it be done entirely internally?

noble arrow
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i remember the hm2 editor got leaked or something so technically alpha testing was open to the public

mild ginkgo
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wait for summer sale

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WAIT IM KIDDING

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@noble arrow

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check the store page

noble arrow
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i have a shitty laptop tho
will it run?

muted jolt
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Tell me specs

noble arrow
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i have no idea
my laptop can’t run roblox if the graphics settings are above 4

crimson folio
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Wohohoah

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That's...

muted jolt
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im played with a shitty gfx and intel dual core froom 2008 and i played

crimson folio
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That's something

noble arrow
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i can get 60 fps in doom 3 for some reason tho

dapper spire
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that’s a bit worrying

muted jolt
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you can use CPU-Z To show a screenshot of you pc

noble arrow
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even minecraft lags if i set the chunk loading to too far

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i can run old games pretty well tho

simple pilot
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you should run dusk well

noble arrow
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but i also had to turn my graphics settings all the way down in clustertruck

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but hey, it’s better than my old one

broken badger
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lmao we had the same idea @dapper spire

dapper spire
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ayyyy

broken badger
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LMAOOO

noble arrow
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i could see the pixels on my old laptop

broken badger
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thats pretty fucking funny

dapper spire
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yes it is

muted jolt
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well, you can buy it

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test it on the fists episodes

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and if not run well

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refund it

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it's like 3 hours to play to test ipresume

noble arrow
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k

muted jolt
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but you need to now

noble arrow
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although i did have some dell update sitting for a while
i kept forgetting about it
eventually my laptop just started freezing up randomly so i finally did the update

muted jolt
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that you will need atleast directx11 or open gl

noble arrow
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that might be part of why it’s bad at running stuff

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dusk has a level editor right?
that’s what the sdk is i’m guessing

muted jolt
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yes

noble arrow
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i love me a good level editor

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i’ve already gotten like almost 100 hours on the hm2 level editor
i played the game for the first time like a month or two ago

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it was just sitting in my library

crimson folio
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One must always reign above...

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DAWN.

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MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

vast tangle
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I can't wait to see the crazy shit people will do with the editor

blissful mesa
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That Stephen laugh, chills

winged otter
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@vast tangle nuts.wad for Dusk when?

vast tangle
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RIP CPU

winged otter
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someone should post that Dusk screenshot with dozens of leathernecks

final estuary
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nuts

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when the sdk drops i'll probably get to work immediately on some sort of horror map centered around the wendigo

royal herald
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everyone loves the wendigo but nobody talks about any of the other enemies, with the exception of big john and occasionally people like me complaining about scarecrows dealing a whole load of damage

muted jolt
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my favorite are scarecrows lol

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if it for me, i just put them on most levels of EP2 and beggining Ep 3

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they are a force to be reckon

strong tendon
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i like the soldier's OOOUUUUH

royal herald
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I know I say this a lot but I don't think y'all realize

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endless mode scarecrows

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for real are the worst

muted jolt
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they are the most of my deaths on endless

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and mama

royal herald
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Coincidence? I think not!

slate edge
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Cease your investigation

royal herald
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both games even have a shotgun lmao david thinks he can hide the truth?

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DUSK is just a copy of DOOM

muted jolt
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Doom just copied Dusk

rough ivy
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heretic is just a copy of amid evil

strong tendon
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hm is just a copy of maximum action

real trout
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John Wick copied fortnite

blissful mesa
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What is hm?

crimson folio
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Should I play Dusk, or play through Amid Evil some more

muted jolt
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Hotline Miami

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but it's trink Joo Woo movies copied Maximum Action

royal herald
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DUSK

final estuary
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dusk ambient tracks released when

royal herald
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pretty sure they are

final estuary
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if they are i can't find them

royal herald
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spotify I think has at least a few

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I know because I was irritated that the non-combat tracks showed up in my playlist

final estuary
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what are they under?

royal herald
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DUSK soundtrack

final estuary
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searching dusk ost doesn't exactly make things easier

paper oyster
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Hey, Emrace the Darkness is a great ambient track harold

visual aurora
final estuary
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no i mean like

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the ones that aren't the battle music

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like the ambient music in E1M2 and M5

royal herald
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name one of the tracks

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ambient ones

final estuary
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ok what about the beginning of mine control

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the calm version of that

royal herald
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Are there any single tracks that are purely ambient?

final estuary
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i think charred is

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but i wanted like the episode 1 ones

royal herald
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charred is in there

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I have a feeling everything is there but just hidden between the thrashing bits of the songs

vast tangle
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Slippery Slope To Sanity is also 100% ambient

blissful mesa
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Beautiful Blasphemy too

olive cloud
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View from below and frozen void

blissful mesa
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Frozen Void is heavier, less ambient

wheat zinc
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Death from Above is mostly ambient

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until like 2:30'ish

shadow cipher
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mrw dusk is on offer

limber adder
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DUSK copied season 1 of Gumby

crimson folio
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Dusk hasn't been out for a while...

proven bobcat
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no u

visual aurora
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It’s a good game

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Nah it’s a good game

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What’s your opinion of a good game

royal herald
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Pretty sure he's just a troll to be honest.

visual aurora
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Disappointing.

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I love Dusk and Amid Evil though

wheat zinc
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same

noble arrow
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while the game was loading my fps went to 666

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when it said "loading tunes"

vague egret
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thats normal. fps levels out when loading completes

highly recommended to cap the framerate to your refresh rate in the options

noble arrow
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ik
the point was that it was at 666

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also the game seems great so far

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it seems like it took imperial wizard a little too seriously

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damn this game is creepy

dapper spire
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which level are you on?

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@noble arrow

noble arrow
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idk

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3 i think?

tropic blaze
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e1m3?

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hit tab

noble arrow
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nah i closed the game
its definitely worth the money

dapper spire
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oh, trust me, once you get to the future episodes, you’ll see lots of scary shite

noble arrow
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idk if i can handle this man

dapper spire
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yep

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I’m a pretty big pussy when it comes to horror and I got through the whole game

noble arrow
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shakkng and criing rn

dapper spire
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sure I had to pause a couple of times

noble arrow
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the chainsaw guy reminds me of silent hill

crimson folio
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I got through Dusk, and only one level in the game truly scared the shit out of me, and that's saying something when the whole game has some eerie parts scattered here and there.

dapper spire
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which level?

crimson folio
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Dweller in Darkness man, Dweller in Darkness....

dapper spire
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same

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still scares me to this day

noble arrow
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damn filter

crimson folio
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Crypt of the flesh is also permanently seared into my memory every time I think about Dusk, which is a true testament to it's terrifying atmosphere in my opinion.

dapper spire
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e3m4 also scares me a lot

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those goddamn horrors man

noble arrow
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who keeps getting rid of my bad jokes

crimson folio
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Not me man

crystal vessel
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Me because that should not be talked about here

dapper spire
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sorry mr mod man

noble arrow
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its in the game

crystal vessel
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cultists are in the game yes

dapper spire
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not them

crystal vessel
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If you keep mentioning them I'll mute you

royal herald
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controversial topics = liabilities for new blood = not worth letting people go on about it.

noble arrow
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as if having it in the game isnt any less controversial

royal herald
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That's not what I meant. I really wouldn't push it though albo, it's not worth it.

noble arrow
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fine

vague egret
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we dont really care for that comparison around here. i get its an easy one to make but its really something we want to avoid

dapper spire
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hi lain

vague egret
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heyo

royal herald
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what is the current speedrun world record for dusk? anybody know?

noble arrow
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15 seconds

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with the power of teamwork, you can do anything

dapper spire
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sucks that co-op isn’t in the game

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yet

noble arrow
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that would be fun

wheat zinc
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it took me 3 months to gather the courage for one specific level

dapper spire
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also, searched it up, it’s like 19 minutes and 35 second for the record of dusk

royal herald
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It looks to be somewhere around 20 minutes world record

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It's kinda finnicky and not a load of people have speedran it yet

dapper spire
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can’t wait for when the record is 5 minutes

royal herald
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the second people find a way to glitch through walls I'm sure it'll be about that honestly.

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the reason being you can kinda just prop hop all over the place in DUSK, all the way to the exit

gusty crescent
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If I were able to, I’d refund this game and get the Bundle with Amid Evil

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I’d still be short though, so that wouldn’t work

dapper spire
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I just realized I still haven’t finished The Forges in Amid Evil

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crap

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thanks autocorrect

silk cape
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Got around to finishing Dusk after my last play session in January. That ending was damn cool.

dapper spire
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ikr

silk cape
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Was more content planned for it?

spare cobalt
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SDK and coop and all kinds of stuff

dapper spire
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I heard there’s gonna be a co-op and a new game+

spare cobalt
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oh yeah NG+

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but no new episodes are planned

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SDK should take care of that

dapper spire
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tbh, I want a Dusk DLC that makes you play as Jakob before he was the head of the cult

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and how he got to be the head of the cult

rough ivy
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giving me ideas for a custom campaign 😃

crimson folio
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That would be cool, and could also help to provide some more backstory to the world Dusk is set in.

royal herald
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I believe a large number of people already want to do a dlc-style thing like that. Maybe a group could get together to work on it.

spare cobalt
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alot of mappers around at least :P

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definitely something dope coming out relatively soon after SDK is out

royal herald
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Nah nah I'm thinking large scale

spare cobalt
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I know

royal herald
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not just maps, gotta get the plot, new textures, scripts, ai, all kinds of stuff, a full, actually gamechanging dlc

spare cobalt
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would love a mod campaign

wheat zinc
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what is NG+ exactly?

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like a remix?

dapper spire
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yeah, i didn’t get what ng+ was going to be

spare cobalt
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probably new enemy placement and pickup placement

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we dont really know

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could be the whole game the other way around from end to start

wheat zinc
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replace the leathernecks with horrors at the start of E1M1

spare cobalt
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"get the hell out of dusk"

silk cape
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Oh damn, just found out that the final boss was voiced by Stephan Weyte, same dude that voiced Caleb from Blood. That is amazing.

spare cobalt
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thats why it killed people when they heard

mild ginkgo
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yep!

spare cobalt
#

in a good way

mild ginkgo
#

hes a great guy

dapper spire
#

weyte did say that he wanted to voice a character in a game after he did the voice of caleb

rough ivy
#

he was worthy, you know

wheat zinc
#

||Jakob's|| Episode

dapper spire
#

how does one add spoiler tag

mild ginkgo
#

message flanked by two pipes on each side

silk cape
#

use | twice before and after what you want to cover.

mild ginkgo
#

||like this||

dapper spire
#

||thanks guys||

wheat zinc
#

||nice||

dapper spire
#

anyways, can we get some background on what ||nyarlathotep|| wanted with the city of dusk?

gusty crescent
#

Looking forward to coop

#

Share some spooks with a buddy

tawdry cloak
#

Co-op is gonna be so gooooo

wheat zinc
#

coop with full friendly fire damage on please

dapper spire
#

yes please

gusty crescent
#

Does Amid Evil have Coop?

wheat zinc
#

harkens back to 16 player Serious Sam coop session

dapper spire
#

no

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it doesn’t have coop

rough ivy
#

||did you know stephen weyte voiced nharlathotep?||

ebon radish
#

Endless would be awesome with co-op that's for sure

dapper spire
#

||yes I did|| @rough ivy

rough ivy
#

who dares ping me

gusty crescent
#

I feel like this and AE are Newblood’s must have games

wheat zinc
#

I would like to see DUSK's engine taken to their absolute limit

rough ivy
#

this, AE, and max ax are newblood's "must have" imo

wheat zinc
#

have like hundreds of living enemies on screen

gusty crescent
#

Gotta have the Modern retro Blood and Hexen

rough ivy
#

dont you dare dont you dare call it hexen

#

NOOOO STOP

dapper spire
#

you fool

wheat zinc
#

you mean that doom game but magic?

silk cape
#

And meaty arms

gusty crescent
#

Heretic?

wheat zinc
#

I would saw New Blood protags don't have hands

#

but Maximum Action broke that tradition

dapper spire
#

ok so, we have indie quake in the form of wrath, indie doom in the form of prodeus, indie blood in the form of dusk, and the indie form of duke nukem in the form of ion maiden

rough ivy
#

you must be joking. dusk is literally a quake clone

ebon radish
#

quake is literally a dusk clone*

dapper spire
#

it’s both quake and blood

wheat zinc
#

Quake but Spooky

rough ivy
#

wrath is a different game entirely it just so happens to run on darkplaces

mild ginkgo
#

i mean, wrath is very much quake

dapper spire
#

^

gusty crescent
#

Isn’t Quake a Sci-Fi game?

wheat zinc
#

it's

mild ginkgo
#

having played it, it plays just like a quake TC

wheat zinc
#

lovecraft lite

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the first game

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2nd is scifi

gusty crescent
#

I don’t think of Quake when I think of Dusk

#

More Blood

dapper spire
#

the rest of the quake games were sci-fi

wheat zinc
#

Quake really has a thing for CASTLES

rough ivy
#

it plays nothing like quake its way too slow, i'd call its gameplay closer to half life, but i havent personally played it so

mild ginkgo
#

i played it

gusty crescent
#

Only Quake I know of is Quake 4

rough ivy
#

yes i know 😠 lucky fucker

mild ginkgo
#

its JUST like quake

rough ivy
#

ill be the judge of that

gusty crescent
#

Didn’t play it, anyway

wheat zinc
#

DUSK and Amid Evil is the only old school shooters I actually completed though

mild ginkgo
#

the people youve watched play it are just really slow

rough ivy
#

the enemies look way too slow too

dapper spire
#

I personally thought Wrath was a really good looking quake mod

rough ivy
#

the floating dudes are literally carbon copies of quake's wizards though

#

and thats ok

tawdry cloak
#

Honestly all of NB's games look like must-haves lol

mild ginkgo
#

nothing wrong with being quake, quake is great

gusty crescent
#

Dusk is almost too fast for me. I’ve never played Retro shooters. All the shooters I played were PS2/Xbox Era

rough ivy
#

no not at all i just saw the gameplay video and was kind of excited it was a slower game than quake

spare cobalt
#

dusk aint slow

#

all gameplay videos are just slow ass players

rough ivy
#

i love quake, its literally my favorite FPS of all time, but wrath being slower would be nice

#

we talkin about wrath dude

spare cobalt
#

oh

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in DUSK?

tawdry cloak
#

Dusk world is some crazy shit man

mild ginkgo
#

its just not really slower though

rough ivy
gusty crescent
#

Didn’t know we were talking Wrath

spare cobalt
#

no thats amid leon

#

didnt you hear?

mild ginkgo
#

the demo level has a slower buildup because you start with just melee, but it encourages super fast play because that lunge starts you off at like 800ups

rough ivy
#

true i suppose

#

anyways ill have to be the judge of it when i play it

gusty crescent
#

Anyone play Unfortunate Spacemen? I think I’d like that game

dapper spire
#

when is early access for wrath coming out?

mild ginkgo
#

i was fuckin zip zooming all around when playing it, because they throw quite a few enemies at you

rough ivy
#

that sounds pretty fuckin epic

#

wrath is the quake 2 we never got

mild ginkgo
#

yeah

#

thats about accurate

rough ivy
#

nice im finally right about something

mild ginkgo
#

im sure the game will be great

rough ivy
#

im sure it will

tawdry cloak
#

One of my favorite parts of DUSK is just the intro. Opening up to Leathernecks and then finding out you can swing sickles like a madman, I was sold immediately.

rough ivy
#

still, i'd like some retro fps games with the pacing of half-life 1

#

and ive entirely given up on making my own lol

mild ginkgo
#

its hard to nail what half life did

#

very very few games like it

dapper spire
#

half life literally changed how story was told in games

rough ivy
#

its pretty easy to nail hl1 level design

mild ginkgo
#

theres a lot of aspects of it that arent

rough ivy
#

exactly

mild ginkgo
#

hl1 is built out of a LOT of setpieces

#

and those are not cheap or easy

#

just requires good design chops, good writing, planning, etc

rough ivy
#

hl1 isnt really setpieces, thats hl2

mild ginkgo
#

just a lot of raw talent to pull that off

dapper spire
#

I forgot this was the dusk channel and not the general channel

mild ginkgo
#

no hl1 is like completely setpieces imo

rough ivy
#

meh thats arguable

#

but its everything that works with the level design that makes it good

mild ginkgo
#

every level has a setpiece moment in it

rough ivy
#

so does quake, arguably

mild ginkgo
#

what no absolutely not

rough ivy
#

i guess we think of a setpiece completely differently lol

mild ginkgo
#

yeah definitely

tawdry cloak
#

Hmm takes notes

#

Need info on making good setpieces

rough ivy
#

take notes bud this is legends talking

#

well, a legend talking

#

im the brick wall

mild ginkgo
#

yeah, hl1

#

the true legend

rough ivy
#

rip valve

mild ginkgo
#

agreed

tawdry cloak
#

Honestly

mild ginkgo
#

i wish we could get a hl1 style game again

dapper spire
#

I miss when valve made good games

mild ginkgo
#

i really do

#

i just dont know who could do it

rough ivy
#

i could

#

lol who am i kidding

#

we'll never get another hl1 styled game since hl2

mild ginkgo
#

no i believe you could

vale oar
#

New Blood could 😛

mild ginkgo
#

but the problem is resources

#

we might be able to, but we dont have the resources for it

rough ivy
#

also i have really bad mapper's block

#

im a mapper fore and foremost but i always, always get stuck

mild ginkgo
#

i bet the dudes who made hl1 did too man

vale oar
#

we dont have the resources for it
okay hire HDTF dudes

mild ginkgo
#

lmaoooo

rough ivy
#

ive been "mapping" for source for 8 years and never released a single level rip

mild ginkgo
#

yes HDTF, well known for its outstanding quality

dapper spire
#

reminder: there are 2 half life fan games that follow Marc Laidlaw’s “Episitle 3” that are in development right now

wheat zinc
#

I had to google that

rough ivy
#

HDTF2 hype

wheat zinc
#

and I wish I didn't now

#

remake HDTF on the DUSK engine

mild ginkgo
#

yeah but hl2 is different from hl1

dapper spire
#

oh no

mild ginkgo
#

hl1 just has way way better atmosphere

#

and pacing

rough ivy
#

hl1 is just way better in general

mild ginkgo
#

and well, pretty much everything

#

yeah

wheat zinc
#

HL1 I really liked the level design

dapper spire
#

same

wheat zinc
#

but the weapons all felt like peashooters

dapper spire
#

we’ve got hostiles was a good level

rough ivy
#

hl1 was an accident

vale oar
#

Surface Tension was a wow level

rough ivy
#

everyone always forgets the second half of surface tension that sucks dick

mild ginkgo
#

we all love on a rail though

vale oar
#

lmao

dapper spire
#

now we don’t

wheat zinc
#

I always wanted to be a train conductor tbh

spare cobalt
#

real talk right here

rough ivy
#

hl1 started off as a literal quake clone, with intersecting levels to give it a single game world, but every npc was an enemy like quake, the scientists and guards were meant to be the grunts and enforcers. then they decided to make the scientists and guards friendly, then they decided to make the story part of the world, and then in late 1997 they remade pretty much the entire game around the scientists and guards being friendly

mild ginkgo
#

every time i boot up hl1 on a rail is my stopping point

rough ivy
#

i love on a rail 😦

spare cobalt
#

I dont

mild ginkgo
#

very few people do

dapper spire
#

not a fan of it really

mild ginkgo
#

youre of a rare variety

rough ivy
#

its not bad enough to literally give up on the game though lol

spare cobalt
#

boring ass part

wheat zinc
#

HL1 did end up feeling kinda samey towards the midpoint

mild ginkgo
#

it gets me to take a break and turn it off

dapper spire
#

remember when this was the dusk channel

wheat zinc
#

which burnt me out

jagged ferry
#

hmm

mild ginkgo
#

pretty much every time

rough ivy
#

ah i understand

#

you guys hyped for black mesa to ruin xen?

mild ginkgo
#

eh, i havent tried black mesa

rough ivy
#

i hope you never do

mild ginkgo
#

no opinion on it

rough ivy
#

its pretty bad 😃

dapper spire
#

eh its pretty decent

vale oar
#

My stopping point was the conversation with Gman after beating Nihilanth. Once I step into the green tram portal the game just cuts itself off PLS HELP I NEED TO FINISH THE GODDAMN GAME

mild ginkgo
#

lol

vale oar
#

"conversation"

wheat zinc
#

you have to buy the DLC

vale oar
#

okay that was pretty dumb lmao

wheat zinc
#

it's called Half-Life 2

rough ivy
#

black mesa has the incredible ability to, when remaking an area, either completely ruin it altogether, or (rarely) make it a million times better than the original

dapper spire
#

they’re making xen look really good though

rough ivy
#

not realy

crimson folio
#

That conversation seems very one-sided

vale oar
#

^

rough ivy
#

someone post the screenshot of black mesa's xen with the stupid fucking palm trees lol

vale oar
#

cuz freeman's voice actor died

rare musk
#

Black Mesa's great tbh

rough ivy
#

black mesa sucks

spare cobalt
#

I've played HL1 so many times that I'd rather play Black Mesa

rough ivy
#

and it's sad because they have the ability to do better 😦 but they refuse

vale oar
#

no red mesa sux

rare musk
#

nah, really the only complaints I've even heard about it stem from it not being absolute 1-1 HL1

#

despite being very close

#

hold on wait what the fuck

jagged ferry
#

my only problem with black mesa is the weapon reserve capacities tbh

rare musk
spare cobalt
#

HL1 doesnt really hold up that well after you get bored of the guns and soldier AI

jagged ferry
#

and also the ai breaking in lambda core

dapper spire
#

yeah

rare musk
jagged ferry
rough ivy
dapper spire
#

general 2 electric boogaloo

rare musk
dapper spire
#

fine

rough ivy
#

we are in general

tawdry cloak
#

😂

spare cobalt
#

I'm pretty surprised it took this long

dapper spire
#

ikr

tawdry cloak
#

That whole interaction was very amusing

vale oar
#

okay back to dusk then. Dusk suc.

rough ivy
#

dusk sucks

dapper spire
#

duk suk

jagged ferry
#

d s

rough ivy
#

dusk for the nintendo ds confirmed

tawdry cloak
#

I'd play it

proven bobcat
#

how dare you diss the duk army

dapper spire
#

oh god I’m sorry

jagged ferry
#

DUSK for the Nintendo Double Screen handheld console device has been confirmed

wheat zinc
#

I heard they are going to display the new console's raw power with a gameplay demo of DUSK

proven bobcat
#

dusk

#

in 4k

dapper spire
#

dusk but it looks like amid evil

proven bobcat
#

I just got amid evil and have been surprised by how pretty it is in comparison, the steam trailers don't do it justice.

rough ivy
#

how long do you think, when the sdk releases, before amid evil is remade in dusk

vale oar
dapper spire
#

don’t remember this dark souls game

tawdry cloak
#

I hope we get Hexen too

wheat zinc
#

Fromsoftware and David teaming up

vale oar
#

and George Martin

dapper spire
#

I’d like to see FromSoftware do a FPS game

tawdry cloak
#

That would be neat

wheat zinc
#

I want to see David make a full blown horror game

#

DUSK spooked me more than most horror games already

dapper spire
#

even better

tawdry cloak
#

Oh baby now you're talkin

proven bobcat
#

dusk episode 3 was downright unsettling

#

would love a full blown horror game from david

spare cobalt
#

E3 has some extra creepy moments

dapper spire
#

looks at E3M4

wheat zinc
#

I legit thought

#

the walls were alive

#

with the wheezing noises

vale oar
#

ye nice homage to E4M7 of Blood

#

but creepy

tawdry cloak
#

I'm kinda stuck on E3M3

#

Feelsbad

dapper spire
#

that’s Shadows, correct?

#

or City of Shadows

rough ivy
#

worst map in episode 3

#

(not including e3m9)

proven bobcat
#

wut

#

i loved city of shadows

dapper spire
#

same

#

it looked so cool

vale oar
#

best map in ep3, sorta one of them

rough ivy
#

its pretty bad

#

city of shadows

#

i thought

proven bobcat
#

that's the one that floods right?

vale oar
#

so non linear, so vertical

rough ivy
#

thats the one with chomper right

dapper spire
#

yes

rough ivy
#

nah it was just badly laid out

#

nonlinear vertical is hard to do

tawdry cloak
#

I've just been confused by the layout of it

proven bobcat
#

I thought it was great personally, it was like a puzzle

rough ivy
#

yeah its got a piss layout

#

and the enemy placement is pretty terrible too

#

but thats ok because e3m4 is great

tawdry cloak
#

I'll get through it soon because I still really want to finish DUSK

#

I've held off on watching like anything DUSK related the whole time because I don't want to spoil anything

rough ivy
#

just play it

#

what are u waiting fo

vale oar
#

CHRISTMAS?!

tawdry cloak
#

I wandered around that level for a while and kinda got tired because I couldn't get to the end

#

Nah like a week or 2 lol

rough ivy
#

play it NOW

#

WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

tawdry cloak
#

Been working on MA stuff

#

Can't I gotta work at 7am tomorrow

spare cobalt
#

STAHP

tawdry cloak
#

I should probably be sleeping tbh

spare cobalt
#

no

vale oar
#

INTRUDAH SHPOTTED

spare cobalt
#

you should be playing dusk

wheat zinc
#

E3M9 is probably one of my favorite levels

dapper spire
#

sleep is for the weak

wheat zinc
#

unironically

#

really lets me shoot alot of things on screen

tawdry cloak
#

I want to play :'(

rough ivy
#

E3M9 would be a lot better imo if the trees had collision

dapper spire
#

I mean yeah, but it gets boring after a while

tawdry cloak
#

When I get home at 2 tomorrow I'm gonna get through it

proven bobcat
#

e3m9 is great for shooty shooty but in terms of level design it's a little bland

tawdry cloak
#

And feel good about myself lol

wheat zinc
#

was good practice for endless too

dapper spire
#

true

#

it is good practice for endless

rough ivy
#

yea, E3M9 could do with being an actual level instead of just gm_flatgrass with a shitton of enemies

#

am i really worthy just because i survived a serious sam knockoff level?

wheat zinc
#

I mean

rough ivy
#

yes, yes i am. thank you very much

spare cobalt
#

well you would have to be pretty dope to pull it off so

#

I guess you are

wheat zinc
#

I imagine that horde was almost all the remaining cultist

#

that still somehow lived

#

through your rampage

rough ivy
#

go to bed @tawdry cloak so i can talk about ep3 spoilers

wheat zinc
#

and they just went "Fuck it send everyone down here"

tawdry cloak
#

Ugh

#

But I don't want to go to bed

dapper spire
#

go get your sleep

rough ivy
#

well i guess youll just get spoiled

dapper spire
#

you probably need it

tawdry cloak
#

I want to play video games lol

#

Yeah I do

dapper spire
#

go get your sleep goddamit

tawdry cloak
#

let me talk about E3

vale oar
#

No

rough ivy
#

E3?

#

what did you think of keanu

dapper spire
#

doom eternal looked pretty good

rough ivy
#

devolver's conference was epic

wheat zinc
#

DOOM 2016 legit gave me a headache

tawdry cloak
#

Lol that worked

rough ivy
#

go to bed dummy

tawdry cloak
#

Alright yeah I should sleep peace m8s

rough ivy
#

i need you bright and healthy to make me more max ax levels

vale oar
#

later

dapper spire
#

see ya dude

tawdry cloak
#

Yay :) I'm glad you like them <3

#

Later guys

rough ivy
#

lol so far youre the best

#

night night

tawdry cloak
#

:O!!!!!!!

#

I can sleep happy now

dapper spire
#

this is so wholesome

#

can we hit wendigoes?

rough ivy
#

so wendigo plush when?

dapper spire
#

we just haven’t seen it because it’s invisible

#

we got to hit in order to see it

wheat zinc
#

Horror plush when

dapper spire
#

no thanks

trim terrace
dapper spire
#

those things scared me enough in episode 3

wheat zinc
#

I'm still waiting for Horror and Leatherneck as playables

#

in Duskworld

dapper spire
#

Duskworld is honestly the most fun I’ve had in a FPS multiplayer setting other than TF2

spare cobalt
#

its a great workout

crimson folio
#

The thing I personally like about it is that it's easy to learn, but hard to master.

dapper spire
#

I sweat a lot when I’m on Duskworld

spare cobalt
#

so do I

#

like alot

crimson folio
#

I sweat when playing duskworld as well, for some reason.

dapper spire
#

it’s just such an adrenaline rush when you’re playing it because everyone is as fast as you are

#

and they get the same weapons as you too

crimson folio
#

Like playing against a bunch of Jakobs

dapper spire
#

pretty much

#

except there’s like 11 other Jakobs as well

#

and they’re all out there to kill you or kill each other

#

and you have to keep on moving

crimson folio
#

I still have to get used to strafe jumping and aiming at the same time, it is most certainly not as easy as it looks.

wheat zinc
#

play some endless

#

or E3M9

crimson folio
#

Thanks for the advice, I very much appreciate it.

wheat zinc
#

I also recommend playing it on Cero just so it kinda forces you to strafejump

abstract skiff
#

When I purchased DUSK last year it was 17% off, now it's 25% off!

#

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

#

Boycott NB until summer sale begins, when I'll purchase Intruder edition upgrade.

crimson folio
#

I did the exact same shit, I don't completely regret it now, because I got to play it at the same time most other people did. Just wish I knew about that 25% off thing in advance, oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

wheat zinc
#

I was thinking of buying DUSK again on gog

#

but I heard gog connect might happen with DUSK

crimson folio
#

Why buy the same game twice?

wheat zinc
#

DRM free

#

and because I like dusk that much

crimson folio
#

What is a DRM?

wheat zinc
#

anti piracy stuff

crimson folio
#

I see

abstract skiff
#

I hear gog map will be featured in Dusk someday...

#

I mean in endless mode.

#

A map with gog plaque being placed.

dapper spire
#

I’m pretty sure that was shown at Pax this year

opal plover
#

Yeah

#

The gogitorium

dapper spire
#

yep

abstract skiff
#

What a cool name...

mild ginkgo
#

Just for the record

#

The steam version of dusk is drm free

wheat zinc
#

oh cool

indigo shale
#

i'm on e1m3 and need to blow up a wall but i think i destroyed all the explosives in the level :S do i need to restart?

opal plover
#

Nah you don't need to blow up any walls to progress

indigo shale
#

ohh ok

rare musk
#

You need to like, break some wooden barriers, but those can be broken with any weapon

opal plover
#

I just remembered Endless mode still doesn't have Ep 3 music

indigo shale
#

yea, i was assuming that blowing up a crack in the underground area was necessary and it wasn't

#

thankfully they didn't keep that bit of build engine games :P

olive cloud
#

Lmao

crimson folio
#

Guys Dusk is out

mild ginkgo
#

shit... who leaked it?

crimson folio
#

I did

#

I'm actually a new blood insider :^)

tropic blaze
#

wow finally was waiting for dusk

graceful wing
#

brb unreleaing dusk

tropic blaze
#

are these roles from like

#

participating in chat

graceful wing
#

yep

tropic blaze
#

i only just now noticed them

graceful wing
#

anything below trial mod can be earned through being active on here

tropic blaze
#

there goes my dreams of becoming admin purely via shitposting

#

admin is shooting low. owner

visual aurora
#

why not go higher

#

just be Dave

graceful wing
#

out shitposting dave isn't gonna happen lol
also we're starting to get kind of offtopic so, -> #bnnuy-and-the-jits

mild ginkgo
#

well, we have mods like jab who became mods purely via shitposting

#

never give up on your dreams

#

also yeah, wrong channel

visual aurora
#

Apologies

glass pulsar
#

I've only had an hour to play dusk and I am in love

mild ginkgo
#

👍

graceful wing
mild ginkgo
#

keep going!

glass pulsar
#

I'm surprised I'm running 60 fps on an i3 two core integrated

blissful mesa
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I just saw the idea for a Jakob Campaign, that would be really cool. You could do remixed levels for an episode, like the ruins before they began developing the thresher in them, maybe it starts out as Jakob also being a treasure hunter and going to Dusk to find a copy of the necronomicon to sell to some wealthy patron.

shadow cipher
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how often does dusk get new stuff

mild ginkgo
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well, its going to be getting a full modding sdk very soon

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so that will pretty much mean an infinite amount of user-generated content

strong tendon
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can't wait

blissful mesa
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I'm really hoping the DOOSK project continues and we can play all of Doom with dusk movement and weaponry

strong tendon
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How soon? Tommorow soon? Or maybe today? BigThink

blissful mesa
mild ginkgo
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^

strong tendon
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I hope the model viewer will be good

glass pulsar
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Doom with dusk movement and weaponry sounds fucking amazing

blissful mesa
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Feast your eyes on its majesty.

glass pulsar
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Absolute masterpiece

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Guess I'll be going through doom again

strong tendon
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We'll need the monsters too

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And maps, so we can make full TC BIGJOHN

glass pulsar
mild ginkgo
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cant wait for cursed mods

blissful mesa
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Cursed mods?

strong tendon
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reload?

mild ginkgo
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just like

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really bad mods

strong tendon
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cursed mod : spin guns removal BIGJOHN

mild ginkgo
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and horrible memes

strong tendon
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DI II II I_SK

blissful mesa
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Corridor Dusk

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Mega man Deathmatch in Dusk

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Wait Fuck that sounds really fun

strong tendon
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brutal dusk

blissful mesa
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I like brutal doom fine, the weapons feel really good. I dont think Dusks weapons or movement need to be altered at all

glass pulsar
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Just add more gore and jibs

strong tendon
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Idea : everything is made out of soap

glass pulsar
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Prison Dusk

blissful mesa
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I would really like to see a map where it starts out as dusk, and then you fall through a dimensional gateway into a level from Amid Evil

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And have to run it as dusk dude

strong tendon
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And when you enter some door you find yourself in Maximum Action

blissful mesa
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Call it New Blood:Fresh Supply

strong tendon
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Super New Blood Bros

olive cloud
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Amid evil in Dusk sdk, lets go👏👏👏👏

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Blood in Dusk sdk lets go👏👏👏👏

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Doom in Dusk sdk, lets go👏👏👏👏

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Quake in Dusk sdk lets go👏👏👏👏

muted jolt
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Dusk in Dusk already in 👏 👏 👏 👌

crimson folio
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Maximum Action in Dusk 👌

noble arrow
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@urban sparrow
i have to congratulate you on the soundtrack man
it’s fucking perfect

olive cloud
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@crimson folio don‘t sully the name of that young and innocent game.

crimson folio
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Alright, I won't, I got nothing bad to say about it anyways.

olive cloud
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Lol im just meming

noble arrow
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half life in dusk

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i honestly want to see what that would look like

olive cloud
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Oh yes

glass pulsar
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Dusk + death metal would be good in my eyes

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and or above

crimson folio
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I know your meming man, it's cool.

noble arrow
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death metal is bad metal

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dusk’s soundtrack is already perfect

urban sparrow
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Thx @noble arrow

noble arrow
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np

glass pulsar
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The sound track is very very good, I just like putting brutal music over brutal games

noble arrow
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cannibal corpse and shit was never really that good imo

crimson folio
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I got it downloaded to my phone on Amazon music. Is it just me or does Dusk's soundtrack almost sound like a heavy metal concept album at times?

noble arrow
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death metal isn’t really “melodic”

glass pulsar
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I'm mostly into deathcore as well

noble arrow
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i like to be able to listen to games soundtracks

crimson folio
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Me too

noble arrow
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dusk is heavy metal

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the soundtrack fits the game perfectly

visual aurora
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The Dusk soundtrack has trademarks of Djent, and Death Metal, with a lot of Ambient tracks in between

glass pulsar
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When some of those dusk soundtracks come on I go from not jumping to trying to do anything to jump around and get some sick kills

noble arrow
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the contrast between the ambient and the metal is really good

glass pulsar
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The mix is perfect

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It gives of a very earie atmosphere

crimson folio
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I like how the songs fade in and out in certain levels smoothly. It's a nice touch.

noble arrow
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one minute you’re scared shitless, and the next you’re shooting demon bulls and running at 500 mph

glass pulsar
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local man runs 500MPH killing everything in sight

noble arrow
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well technically you were already running at 500 mph before the music kicked in

glass pulsar
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Once the music kicks in ooooh boy that adrenaline rush

olive cloud
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Du

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Du Dusk

crimson folio
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Burn in hell is one of my personal favorite tracks in the game.... Among others.

blissful mesa
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Best musical transition in the game is post tornado when you drop down Beneath The Altar into the rows of cultists and shit just pops off

crimson folio
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I prefer to use the crossbow there myself.

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That certainly was a highlight of the game for me.