no, just tried ity
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
queen coral
mild ginkgo
Propkills count
queen coral
enter opens the chat
queen raptor
Uuuuuuse the soaaaaaaap
queen coral
and the sensitivity stays there on the menu, the visual slider changes
but not the actual thing
so whenever you load a new map it goes away
fair mirage
mellow robin
I got the perfect plan:
For every killed enemy a sip of your beer
For every not killed enemy a shot
😄
glad bramble
1 more question: When support stops after x time, can servers still be made?
fair mirage
sounds like a recipe for a trip to the ER
we plan to have dedicated server stuff for people to use
so, ye
slate edge
You can make your own server, peer to peer listen server iirc and yes
fair mirage
and there's that
mellow robin
why trip to ER?
Like, beer isn't that hard stuff and you gotta be carefull to kill every enemy 😄
mellow robin
i would say like 2-4 beer depends of the bottle size ^^
like sips are very small amounts
and i thougth more of the campain levels. with 50/100 enemys per level
so like 1 - 1.5 bottles per level i think
queen raptor
All in all 20-30 beers
dim abyss
Did you guys know theres a sword hidden out of bounds in E2M1? lol.
mellow robin
yepp but i don't think i could handle that ^^
so i would stop after a few levels or my mates and me would take turns
like gettiing drunk alone would be boring ^^
dim abyss
see also: AMID EVIL
queen raptor
Same publisher, different developers?
cosmic urchin
dusk in amid evil when
dim abyss
It has a similar vibe to DUSK in terms of the 90s FPS feel.
btw heres a guide to that hidden sword I mentioned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpP3oZ4O6HA
raven phoenix
I have been listening to the DUSK OST on full blast for two days and it has yet to get old
queen raptor
ME TOO
raven phoenix
Aw ye
queen raptor
raven phoenix
Murder machine, keepers of the gate and pretty much everything else is...no it ALL rocks
rotund hinge
@void flower Someone explained earlier that Low Tech means using 2 or fewer weapons to complete the level
Sword and Crossbow are frequently the best choices for this but I guess you can pick any
Sword is pretty much required for any missions where ammo will be a problem on two weapons
dim abyss
I'm having trouble keeping track of how many soap bars I've grabbed lol.
I thought I got all 33, but it seems I missed it somewhere and I can't figure out where.
rotund hinge
Well don't forget, achievements were added with release or so
dim abyss
I got the True 100% achievement yesterday.
rotund hinge
so if you played in Early Access you have to go back and get the soap in previous levels
I'm pretty sure anyway
If you're sure you've done them all since release then just ask yourself where the soap is in each level and if you can't remember, go back and find it again lol
dim abyss
Do you have to finish the level for it to be counted?
If not I can probably just run through it again real quick.
rotund hinge
I'm not sure but I would assume not
That said, I've just opted to do a fresh chronological playthrough as I pick up each level's soap along the way
rotund hinge
Well it's a good thing they ditched the hideous graphics
rich crypt
ikr
slate edge
thats an old meme
queen coral
wow and people say that ubisoft downgrades their game
jesus christ man I trusted in you guys
rich crypt
what about the iconic sickles
queen raptor
dim abyss
gotcha
fair mirage
zoap
rich crypt
finally clean
gleaming berry
crimson folio
D is for Delightful
U is for Unreal
S is for Strafing
K is for Killing enemies
vale oar
now try that with Amid Evil
jaunty meteor
Oh cool, that ICARUS guy I played with earlier was Icaruslives
He gave the multiplayer a good review c:
rich crypt
hey you guys
my 10 year old sister just said dusk is better than fortnite
we did it
queen coral
you are a good brother
rich crypt
sister and thanks :D
queen coral
good sister it is then
rich crypt
queen coral
im only convinced if she plays blood tho 
rich crypt
blood?
queen coral
there are like, two main games that define the dusk experience
its a mixture of blood and quake
rich crypt
i've never heard of blood xD
dim plank
really good tho
queen coral
its atmospheric as hell and really entertaining tho
blood is the first fps I can remember that actually made smooth transitions between levels tho
for a god damned build engine game the scenarios look pretty damn convincing too
(10 year old me loved it but idk, a little too... gory maybe?)
it was more of a joke tho, I wouldnt really give blood to a 10yo
rich crypt
tbh i'm not really into older games all that much
pre say, gamecube they don't usually hold my interest
queen coral
well, they can get a little bit janky
its really not for everyone
tho I really love how the build engine era games are all inspired by different movie genres
shadow warrior being (a terrible) interpretation of azn games, blood being horror, duke being the over the top action
dim plank
MARANAX PALLEX!
crimson folio
Someone should write a dusk story in the point of view of the civilians as the town slowly gets fenced off and devolves
crimson folio
Kinda like a new story but still in the dusk game. Like how wolfenstein had many stories. Like spear of destiny.
jaunty meteor
@queen coral Blood is only slowpaced when you're easing into it and learning what you can and can't get away with
When you know your limits you can play it pretty damn fast
queen coral
not really SLOW paced
just SLOWER
dusk is a beast when you're strafejumping like a madman
blood is fast paced but not dusk levels of speed
crimson folio
Blood is 👌
queen coral
I mean holy shit duskworld is even worse than q3/qc
Its physically impossible to land hr hits
jaunty meteor
Nah you just need to flick your wrist
queen coral
you mean detach it, right?
jaunty meteor
Use a high sensitivity, it's basically necessary for DW
bronze jay
Ok, listen, these cultists are being WRONG
A sacrifice isn't just someone else you want to kill
A scarifice is something that YOU give up
Just killing someone you were going to kill anyway isn't a sacrifice, it's just a murder
and tbh I think that the evil deities that you're sacrificing to can see right through that
thorn trout
This is a good point
jaunty meteor
Sorry, Dusk is going to have to go back into early access to fix this.
half cape
Why not sacrifice cancer or Nazis instead??
bronze jay
If I was the evil deity in question I'd be insulted
jaunty meteor
You can interpret it as a sacrifice from the human world, i.e. flesh and blood from slain humans, not an individual sacrifice from that cultist
bronze jay
I'd return the sacrifice to the store
jaunty meteor
They clearly are going to great effort to feed hundreds of humans into that meat grinder, that qualifies as a sacrifice IMO
bronze jay
True
but not you
Maybe the evil deity is planting all these secrets around just to fuck with them
teal niche
There's no evil deity, just sans undertale
crimson folio
I mean from what the comic says and some self explanation, the Dusk Cultists capture unpure people, maybe townsfolk who didn’t agree and process them through the infernal machine and then feed them to their deity
bronze jay
Also the voice of the cult leader guy sounds an awful lot like that serial killer cross dresser dude who's all like "would you fuck me? id fuck me"
half cape
RETURN THE SLAB
echo epoch
Well, Gray, did you put the lotion on the skin?
echo epoch
wipes sweat off shaved brow
bronze jay
so just dealt with momma
uhhhhh
holyfuckingshitwhattheactualfuckohmygodimterrified WHAT HAVE YOU DUN
she got spurs
that jingle jangle jingle
severe basalt
This game is absolutely fantastic. Not sure how they did it, but it's somehow improved on the already great Amid Evil
Thank you @urban sparrow @thorn trout for speaking to me briefly at PAX Aus this year. Are you guys back in NZ now?
urban sparrow
I am confused
jaunty meteor
Yeah Andrew, you back in New Zealand yet? Must be nice there this time of year
Enjoying the weather, "mate"?
jaunty meteor
Yeah, the Amid Evil guys are New Zealanders, and while they work under New Blood, New Blood themselves aren't New Zealanders
The dudes who made Dusk are primarily Americans
urban sparrow
I shall summon the kiwis
viral gate
urban sparrow
@rotund glen @teal nimbus
viral gate
Dynamic duo
jaunty meteor
Summon the AE guys so they can read a comment about how Dusk improved over Amid Evil 😆
urban sparrow
Meh, simple mistake. I forget to see what chat I am in a LOT
urban sparrow
lol
they might still be sleeping
I think they were up late working on E6
anyways @severe basalt those are the people you wanna tag. Plz take it over to the Amid-Evil chat if you would be so kind 😃
rotund glen
whomst tagged me
bronze jay
personally have a policy of not buying EA games
Is there a schedule for Amid Evil's full release?
marble vapor
Maybe add difficulty achievements so I have the incentive to beat the whole game on duskmare
teal nimbus
what the hell channel is this.. d... dusk?
dim plank
welcome to the thresher motherfucker
teal nimbus
severe basalt
@urban sparrow Cheers mate! I am certain I spoke to a David though! Ah well - names are names I'll work it out!
dim plank
hey Andrew, good work on the soundtrack and everything! You gave the game a lot of heart.
rotund glen
you might have talked to dave which is dave oshry
full sandal
guys
if dusk on metacritic was put in the right year
it would be pc game of the year by metascore
crimson folio
Yeah the levels have so much detail in them
neon dove
Would it be ok to have DUSK character avatars for Vrchat? Have people done it before?
crimson folio
Oooo I was blending through nosleep in the new section and there seems to be a DUSK story
full sandal
lmao
crimson folio
gamerz i am on an e🅱ic quest to obtain cash, i will unite with my fellow intruders soon
fun fact i do not own dusk yet lmao
i'll probably get it for christmas th0
pulsar bough
queen raptor
..You could basically go through this entire game with nothing but soap, couldn't you.
dim plank
Probably.
fair mirage
if you wanna keep throwin and pickin up soap, be my guest
balmy sluice
queen raptor
You know, the revelation that you can basically forego weapons entirely in this game.
I'm basically convinced Dusk can easily be a classic first person sandbox rather than just a shooter.
ie. the sky's the limit with this one.
storm cedar
Just finished my first playthrough. 😄 The second-to-last level made me grow a third testicle. I thought the end game was excellent but not amazing, unlike the core gunplay and gameplay loop, which was amazing.
A couple of lesser entries didn't distill some brilliant level and environment design.
Not sure what I'm going to do next. I'll probably replay a few favorite levels on level select and maybe figure out what trophies turn the sickles colors on the episode maps, then probably shelve the game until the SDK is released.
paper oyster
Any tips for pacifist runs?
Struggling to beat e1m2, with every enemy piled on me 😬
bronze jay
dun do it
shrewd bolt
Got dusk today. Just finished the first episode and I am absolutely adoring it. Do you guys plan to add more episodes or are you moving on to other projects?
shrewd bolt
i know im wondering if i am to expect more in the future. kinda like the extra levels in ultimate doom or final doom
molten peak
No more episodes I'm fairly certain, but later in 2019 they'll be releasing an SDK called Dawn. Once the modders get their hands on it, expect some more content, even if it's not official
shrewd bolt
disappointing but ill take it. depending on how this does maybe we'll be blessed with an even more rocking sequel
molten peak
WIthout spoilers, I'll say there's defo potential for a sequel, but that's something far off as I'm sure David wants to take a break and/or start a new project
bronze jay
Isn't a heretic meant to be a version of your own religion but that's broken with the orthadoxy?
Wouldn't the wizards call you Heathen?
fading crane
man i feel so proud when i manage to find an obscure secret without having to consult a guide
like finding the soap in E2M3, took me forever to figure out where that was even though i could hear the hallowed health when i was above it
balmy sluice
@sturdy shadow
gleaming berry
HES HERE
balmy sluice
STILL NO IDEA WHO IT IS THO
coarse flint
I thought Painkiller’s thing was the spinny saw weapon.
opaque spindle
This is fuckin scary
coarse flint
Like wasn’t the saw thing literally called the painkiller
woeful sonnet
Yeah but.... stake gun!
coarse flint
It doesn’t fit with the rest of them!
woeful sonnet
🐊
coarse flint
AAAAAAA
echo epoch
Is telefragging a thing in DW? I've never thought about that.
crimson folio
fairly sure it is lol
iron trellis
People be talking Dusk.
balmy sluice
Dusk talk in the dusk channel? Nah, I ain't buying it.
iron trellis
Fine oven bake release.
graceful wing
Ye telefrags are in
graceful wing
.txt accounts are always community run
Would be lame otherwise
Also ease off on pinging the big man
queen raptor
Yeeeeeah, my bad.
I'm not used to twitter culture. Just got on the bandwagon recently because apparently you have to for what I do.
Though it's really hard to tell sometimes what's official and what isn't considering it's collectively all shitposting between dave, david and andrew. https://twitter.com/TheNewBloods/status/1073032438345981952
graceful wing
Our official accounts all state so in their bios
There's the game specific accounts, new blood that's just for general Nb stuff and the Nb discord account that's run by me and lain
queen raptor
I see.
Also if you guys ever get a merch store up, I expect some sort of partnership deal with a soap company.
crimson folio
holy shit after 60 hours i just realized the Press to E "Live Again"
crimson folio
i just recently started playing blood because i have heard good things about it
turbid frigate
@mild ginkgo I don't get that joke
mild ginkgo
its from blood
queen raptor
Well, the remake's by the same guys who did the turok one so, it's likely to work well enough without any added bs, so..
Maybe it'll push more people to get the references.
viral gate
Already smacked the Quake one out of the park :/
thorn patrol
@crimson folio Humbly requesting the sickles-only cheevo be renamed to "Rip and Tear" and a cheevo added (if not already there) for sickling the whole game called "Until It Is Done"
Er
@gleaming berry Humbly requesting the sickles-only cheevo be renamed to "Rip and Tear" and a cheevo added (if not already there) for sickling the whole game called "Until It Is Done"
@crimson folio IGNORE ME
thorn patrol
Will do!
delicate sail
thorn patrol
@gleaming berry Poasted
foggy wadi
would rather it be an actual soap and not bacon
fading crane
gore-scented soap would be more accurate to real world use
foggy wadi
anythings better than bacon scented
sick cypress
Just beat the game. Worth the wait, for sure.
foggy wadi
as soon as i beat dusk i really wanted an expansion pack
its a shame game development isn't instantaneous and easy 😭
graceful wing
Those science nerds need to invent a super game dev neural network already
Infinite content
graceful wing
Put that in a jar then and make it develop 24/7
Real people get distracted by subnautica
😉
hollow ivyBOT
🔄 DUSK IS OUT!!!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/
TELL YOUR FRIENDS! TELL YOUR MOM! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!
BUT WE’RE NOT DONE. STAY TUNED FOR NEW FEATURES AND CONTENT SUCH AS:
SDK - MAKE YOUR NUTS WAD DREAMS COME TRUE!
CO-OP - BLOW STUFF UP WITH FRIENDS!
DUSKWORLD CONTENT - BLOW UP YOUR FRIENDS!
MAYBE MORE STUFF???
Don't forget to leave a review. Let us know if you liked or hated it!
iron trellis
@bronze jay quak quak BOOM
bitter ridge
Is there any word on co-op for either campaign or endless?
I would kill for coop endless
echo epoch
Neither confirmed, neither completely impossible in the future iirc
Modding and multiplayer are priority
mild ginkgo
Co-op is deffo happening at some point
graceful wing
Look at the shill right above your post
queen raptor
Whoever wrote shillbot.
Is that a direct reference to nuts.wad or am I just seeing things.
graceful wing
I'll leave that up to you to decide hehe
delicate sail
Prolly too early to tell, but is cross platform coop in the realm of the possible?
mild ginkgo
i would say its slightly early for that, but its probably likely at least between linux/pc
queen coral
found my MT-32 files so here's a render of that cool endless midi in MUNT
mild ginkgo
that is sick
balmy sluice
very sick
echo epoch
I need to untune out shillby
bronze jay
Is anyone in the UK?
noble pond
sooo, realistically how long until the sdk or some kind of mapping support? I played around with trenchbroom months back in over excitement, but i really need to be able to compile and play with my maps every 10 seconds for max nerdability
graceful wing
Probably late q1 to sometime in q2 2019. I don't really have anything besides a guesstimate to give out currently
noble pond
well i will ravenously wait in patience
if that's a thing
quick stop talking about it so i can forget till the sdk comes out
flint cedar
Well seeing that the game just released it should take as long as needed
to ensure we will get quality update 
mild ginkgo
"stop"
mild ginkgo
😢
fast wigeon
theyre posessed
bronze jay
oh
crisp lion
holy crap I got a bugged Big John (fudddled with crystal of madness, n cheats) that's killing all the enemies for me lol
echo epoch
I think it's implied the ones in The Gate sre mostly just scared remnants of the last remaining unpossessed soldiers, and from then on out they're indoctrinated, hence the infighting on E1M8.
opal plover
How is it bugged?
crisp lion
he's only focusing on enemies
echo epoch
Isn't that normal
opal plover
Yeah that's when you throw directly at an enemy
echo epoch
I never get attacked by madness inflicted enemies
crisp lion
crystal of madness makes the affected enemies attack the nearest monster/player entity iirc
echo epoch
I don't think it's like normal infighting where they attack the last damage or nearest person, they always just walk away from me to go hunt other baddies, like an ally.
Then again, I haven't tried any controlled testing, but I've definitely had enemies walk off far away from me to go kill other baddies.
I might be talking out of my ass due to game jank though
bronze jay
in john's arena, the chimney stack isn't fully flush with the floor
there's a little bit in between the floor and the bottom of the chimney i think
thin sphinx
the comic suggests the red light in the gas masks is a sign of possession/corruption of them
the soldiers
echo epoch
Yup. I just always figured they were fighting the cultists at the gate due to you witnessing the tail end of said possession.
bronze jay
Well I never read the comic
I thought the soldiers were fighting the cultists and fighting me at the same time
echo epoch
Basically yeah
echo epoch
I mean, you come flying around the wall at 60mph with 8 guns swinging scythes at them, dressed up all weird and bloody, shooting everything, they're fighting monsters and cultists.
Possessed or not they're gonna shoot lol
Though it would be interesting to have seen Dusk but the military and cult are two separate factions throughout
echo epoch
Ep3 spoilers bud
analog fossil
been listening to the dusk ost instead of my normal playlist for like two days now
lusty fable
It's so fucking good
delicate sail
thorn patrol
\m/
echo epoch
There's two?
viral gate
I KNEW IT!
Explains the two Andrew emotes as well!
gasp
THERE'S TWO LEONS AS WELL!
potent meteor
Anyone know why the resolution says 1982 when its 1980
i mean its nothing but a typo but still
oh and that you cant change any of the settings
<@&440264780557844490>
potent meteor
Ok
delicate sail
Someone reported an issue with ultra widescreen resolutions before, where you had to do something weird in addition to choosing it for it to work. Maybe it's related?
potent meteor
@mild ginkgo Doesn't work, also you have the press escape to get the mouse to show up, it said all files are there so can you send me yours?
and where do you put it?
solar shadow
Well, now my computer is away for repairs, so I'm gonna have to wait a few days until I can play DUSK again.
potent meteor
doesnt matter
mild ginkgo
so is it both then?
potent meteor
sure
right i might sound stupid but dusk is the singleplayer and duskworld is multiplayer right?
mild ginkgo
yes
crimson folio
yepp
potent meteor
so just dusk
potent meteor
thanks
potent meteor
@mild ginkgo still messed up, only the fullscreen button works
mild ginkgo
alright, send me an image of your dusk directory if you dont mind
crimson folio
Read only?
mild ginkgo
i would just like to verify that you have all the relevant folders etc
queen coral
@crimson folio thats me
queen coral
we were just talking about it onnnn #507229681246797845
queen coral
thats a good thread btw
crimson folio
❤
queen coral
cant wait for the SDK release
bronze jay
hey uh, question
queen coral
?
bronze jay
Are the devs gonna make any commentary thingies
Like commentary walkthroughs for other aspiring devs
Like the HL2 dev commentary things
bronze jay
a day and a half
echo epoch
Dusk is a tiddie game
queen coral
dusk is a clean game ok
vague egret
wholesome family fun
queen coral
yeah you talk like that again and I'm washing that mouth with soap
echo epoch
That's attempted murder
queen coral
it's only a crime if the police catches you
crimson folio
oh no
jaunty meteor
I was curious if it was possible to have rising/lowering water for DuskWorld maps when the SDK comes out
jade root
Ooo that's a good question
echo epoch
Oh great now that's spoiled
jade root
I don't actually know that myself
jaunty meteor
Oops, wrong chat...
I was hoping most people already knew since the vod that was first shown off on is like 6 months old :p
echo epoch
J/K with ya man
mild ginkgo
yes it is
jade root
There you go
jaunty meteor
Yes what?
mild ginkgo
ipossible
very easily
you can make all sorts of water volumes
make a moving, floating, water sphere if you want
jaunty meteor
Can they be animated along a track, like your platform? :)
mild ginkgo
i mean sure why not
jaunty meteor
I was thinking a volume of water that rises and lowers on 20-30 second intervals, like a high-low tide
mild ginkgo
that platform is just a door with func_platform as well lol
jaunty meteor
Hey, if it works it works
mild ginkgo
but yeah, i have no doubt youll be able to pull that off quite easily
mild ginkgo
yes
queen coral
I was thinking something like a climbing map
jaunty meteor
Sweet!!
queen coral
with things you need to finish
like
"do a crossbow jump"
or "do a mortar jump´"
while a lava pit rises
first in to the finish or last alive wins
prisma halo
Platforms would literally just be
put an entity at the start location
entity at the end location
hook those up to the entity
mild ginkgo
^
mild ginkgo
thats how it currently works even in non sdk duskworld
jaunty meteor
That's very convenient, woo ⭐
mild ginkgo
i have an entity system where you define the type, id, and behavior
dim plank
func_vehicle in dusk world can be a reality, then?
queen coral
I am going to say this once more, and until time is done I 'll still be saying this
func_vehicle
dim plank
FUNC_VEHICLE
mild ginkgo
func vehicle would probably be no issue at all
prisma halo
I mean, func_vehicle would just be an entity the player controls (brushes and entities are somewhat synonymous in the sdk)
dim plank
new blood officially better than valve
prisma halo
meaning yes, you could spawn a leatherneck and make it a func_vehicle
prisma kestrel
func_bass
prisma halo
if you really wanted
jaunty meteor
Please make my dreams come true and I guarantee you I'll make a bunch of gimmicky Duskworld maps
dm_gondola, dm_subway, ctf_wackyraces
prisma halo
dm_ricochet
queen coral
RIDEABLE LIL NECK
crimson folio
i want to see dusk fortress
queen coral
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS
mild ginkgo
i should make a subway map...
jaunty meteor
PLEASE DO
mild ginkgo
i love subway maps
crimson folio
will modding capability be strong enough that something remotely similar to team fortress would be achievable?
jaunty meteor
I love any map with moving parts like that, show off those sick moving platforms you made
mild ginkgo
yes probably
prisma halo
make it similar to rift: the train is interdimensional and takes you to differently themed areas
crimson folio
awesome
twilit cradle
d u s k f o r t r e s s
prisma halo
how cool would it be to ride a train through the void and look out the windows to see floating platforms and shit
mild ginkgo
tfw zombie makes a better idea for rift
queen coral
dusk strike: eldrich offensive
jaunty meteor
DUSKWORLD TRAIN LEVEL 2019
dim plank
yes
echo epoch
Holy shit func_vehicle confirmed
prisma halo
it's a very simple entity behaviour function
dim plank
must require at least a few references to Tekwars
crimson folio
i'm now unironically excited for the prospect of dusk fortress
mild ginkgo
obviously it needs to define the current authority on its movement , but thats about it
crimson folio
i'd kill to see the same amount of customization offered by, say, sven co-op
but i saw the word 'angelscript' somewhere
jaunty meteor
Technically Sawmill has a little train station, there's even an in-universe setpiece for one part of this hypothetical train map
prisma halo
AngelScript is pretty cool but it's not what's being used in Dusk
AngelScript's API is super C++-centric, so binding it to C# so it could be used in Unity would be a behemoth effort
crimson folio
what's the estimate of what the SDK team wants when it comes to how unrecognizable one can make the game with it
prisma halo
and the C binding isn't even up to date, so I'd have to bind the entire C++ API to C myself to access it from C#
mild ginkgo
there is literally no limit
prisma halo
You can customize pretty much everything as long as it doesn't involve shaders
Blame Unity for that
crimson folio
who needs shaders
jaunty meteor
I know I'll totally go nuts with the SDK when it comes out, but the big thing I'm hoping for is that the MP is still alive by then
mild ginkgo
but im sure you could hack it in somehow
crimson folio
as long as i can make cool shit i'm not worried
prisma halo
If you want a certain kind of shader, submit a pull request that includes it in the SDK project when it goes public
crimson folio
@jaunty meteor i have a feeling dusk mp will be similar to the way TFC is these days
having to coordinate games to get anything good going
prisma halo
If the shader is reasonable enough to add, we'll add it in
mild ginkgo
and obviously we can include the ones we have in game
crimson folio
i wanted to play duskworld this morning and only found 2 servers
prisma halo
but like, I'm not gonna approve muh extra hd pbr 4k shader
it has to have actual substance in the context of dusk
crimson folio
oh yeah and when is dusk getting better graphics?
mild ginkgo
well unity by default comes with the Standard Shader
crimson folio
these placeholders hurt my eyes
mild ginkgo
which is flexible enough for pbr
crimson folio
/s
mild ginkgo
the standard shader is a blessing and a curse
prisma halo
yeah
dim plank
dm_funcvehicle
mild ginkgo
im going to write a new dusk specific shader for the switch port anyways
the standard shader is a waste of resources, and its tight on that platform obviously
prisma halo
I'm really looking forward to never touching Unity again after Dusk
queen coral
its that bad? jeez
mild ginkgo
nah its not really that bad
but its frustrating
because its almost good
but they make big mistakes in some key areas
prisma halo
I have a lot of personal disagreements with Unity in many areas
But yeah, basically that too
mild ginkgo
besides, zombie will have better options :^)
queen coral
it cant be worse than working with android studio tho
mild ginkgo
you could be FPSC
prisma halo
Android Studio is an IDE though
prisma halo
I wasted too much of my life on FPSC
the countless hours I spent fucking around with the source code
trying to unfuck the bloody thing
dim plank
Is it too far gone?
mild ginkgo
fpsc, 100%
queen coral
fpsc?
dim plank
yeye
crimson folio
honestly though if i can fangirl a bit dusk really was the best thing i've played all year
what really got me was the environmental storytelling that matched if not bested half-life/blood's
dim plank
^
queen coral
no its ok, I agree
mild ginkgo
oh 2018.3 released today
crimson folio
its very rare a game consistently impresses me for the entire playthrough
dim plank
episode 3 was something that I had to immediately sit down and nut to when it released in honor of the great gods tbh
jaunty meteor
Sorry, but Dusk's environmental storytelling is terrible. I only saw like 2 skeletons the entire game
crimson folio
i don't understand the notion that episode 2 is weak either
mild ginkgo
not even full skeletons
dim plank
yeah
queen coral
but the meatballs made up for it by vomiting thousands of skulls
so its a net positive
mild ginkgo
some people hated the claustrophobia of ep2
queen coral
each skull is worth 0.1 skeleton
dim plank
ep2's claustrophobia was great
jaunty meteor
Claustrophobia? EP2 had some nice open areas
crimson folio
i think it had its place given that each episode varied wildly in level design and aesthetics both
if that was the whole game, i'd agree it would suck
jaunty meteor
It starts with what I'm reasonably sure is one of the biggest maps in Dusk by traversable terrain
dim plank
I love how it kinda forced you to get up close
queen coral
the most impressive is how much Dusk changes in terms of gameplay with level design alone
mild ginkgo
yeah its definitely not all tight, but those parts really frustrated people
crimson folio
i didn't have any problems
mild ginkgo
along with the losin of their flashlight
crimson folio
"the fall broke your flashlight" is the one screen text i've seen more than any other
and it brings me to tears each time
what i did have a problem with was that the credits sequence didn't have that thing like in doom 2 where you saw each enemy and their name and you clicked to kill them
so dusk sits at 9.9 only
queen coral
the only time dusk was lame was by removing the flashlight
otherwise it managed to do everything really organically
and that takes some commitment
mild ginkgo
a lot of thought was put into everything, that i can tell you
crimson folio
it shows
queen coral
yeah, from the few snippets of chatting with andrew that was really apparent
crimson folio
wonder if weyte actually plays the games he's involved with
queen coral
a lot of work spent on making sure the pacing of the combat setpieces was just right, etc
mild ginkgo
yep, totally
queen coral
its jarring to try to even play project warlock now
asdf
I should have finished it first
mild ginkgo
haha, well, its hard to go from quake or doom or duke back to wolf 3d
crimson folio
and now the inevitable future holds dusk 2 with graphics that're actually bad and hamfisted storytelling
blood 2 never happened
queen coral
wolf3d is unplayable
mild ginkgo
wolf3d was cool but like its outclassed in every way by doom
queen coral
I love doom but I hate the hitscan enemies on it
it makes the higher difficulties really frustrating
and sorta kills the flow
crimson folio
other than the portraits ingame is there any reference for how duskguy looks
mild ginkgo
yeah i mean, obviously, we removed hitscan in dusk
jaunty meteor
There's no bigger red flag than when someone says "Yeah I love retro shooters. Wolfenstein 3D is my favorite"
queen coral
lmfao
crimson folio
they're lying
queen coral
they're not lying, they played the shareware
the moment they experience the fucking zombies
holy shit
mild ginkgo
i played PW at pax east and it was alright, but the level design needed work
crimson folio
pw?
mild ginkgo
project warlock
mild ginkgo
i know its unfair, because its a wolf-clone
vale oar
Project Warcock (C)
jaunty meteor
I don't think it's unfair TBH, you should know what you're getting into when you base your game's design off of a shooter that is well-known for having awful level design (as a byproduct of its time)
queen coral
it's a self imposed restriction tho
and they really didn't try to make much effort in making use of said restriction
mild ginkgo
the art looks nice, and the gunplay was decently fluid
it was running pretty choppy at pax, but im sure that was fixed for release
mild ginkgo
oh.
queen coral
r7 1700 + rx480
mild ginkgo
well, that wouldnt stop me from enjoying it probably
queen coral
launch binaries ran like dog shit
jaunty meteor
Was it you who was obsessing that E1M2 didn't run at a constant 60FPS :p
vale oar
NO I PLAYED DEM AT HIGH FRAMERATE SPEAK FOR URSELF DUDE
mild ginkgo
yes
jaunty meteor
I don't think I could personally excuse a game that looks like Project Warlock not running at 60
queen coral
or 1999
when I played doom and quake HL was already in the market
I got doom, quake, shadow warrior, blood on the same disk
like, months after I played MDK
mild ginkgo
thats one hell of a disk
dim plank
I just genuinely have appreciation for the older games of the 90's, etc.
queen coral
yeah my uncle had good taste lmfao
jaunty meteor
Wish I had a blood uncle :c
mild ginkgo
i downloaded quake's shareware on my dads work pc, and he had no idea
lmao
changed my life, thats for sure
dim plank
and it's half a nostalgic thing since I'm only a teenager and have a fair amount of my childhood dedicated to half life and quake 2 as well as the other games based upon the goldsrc engine
queen coral
brazil was different back then, piracy was rampant
it was nearly impossible to buy games
even if you had the money it was really hard
nowadays with steam I can actually pay for my content
mild ginkgo
btw you are the best english speaker from brazil i have ever run into on the internet
queen coral
thx
vale oar
lol
queen coral
brazillians with bad english are usually the first to claim they're from brazil
balmy sluice
Lmak
queen coral
that really doesnt help our image
balmy sluice
O
dim plank
pleas Com to brazil
mild ginkgo
i mean idc if someone knows english, jus tmakes it hard to interact
queen coral
@dim plank HUAEHUAEHUAEHUAEHUAEHUHUAE
mild ginkgo
because im a monolanguage pleb
dim plank
yeah pts shares my outlook
mild ginkgo
doesnt make me think any more or less of them
dim plank
I'm friends with a fair bit of Russians and swedes thanks to some youtuber's discord
mild ginkgo
you find ways to communicate though
crimson folio
i grew a very fond love of valve.
mild ginkgo
i stayed for 2 months in japan without speaking a word basically
crimson folio
that love has since had bad things happen to it
vale oar
@mild ginkgo how bout NANI?
balmy sluice
And ate 100 year old eggs
dim plank
all I knew were the corridors of black Mesa and stroggos
queen coral
gomenasai 500pts sann
mild ginkgo
lmao
queen coral
🤢
mild ginkgo
i dont speak the language, i just stayed there cause its cool
and they have good food
crimson folio
but yeah if not for half-life i wouldn't have found gmod and then wouldn't have gotten into programming
the one (1) thing i can do properly
mild ginkgo
also arcade collecting
queen coral
I also owe my programming deets to quake-based games
gmod, quake source modding, etc
crimson folio
but instead of making cool 3d shooters i make fucking text games
jade root
500 has entire arcades in his garage
crimson folio
:agony:
mild ginkgo
quake is for everyone
dim plank
eventually went through a cawwadoody phase but came back around and now I play a lot of old games
queen coral
how many people's lives were changed by carmack open-sourcing doom/quake?
mild ginkgo
then maybe
crimson folio
@queen coral enough
vale oar
Brazilians
good English
Japan
Quake
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
🤔
jade root
hey i like quake, its just that doom is better
crimson folio
doom 2/doom 5 looks promising
if bethesda doesn't fuck it up horribly with their launcher
queen coral
quake is better in a vacuum
but doom is elevated by mods
doom has so much good shit its absurd
crimson folio
we wouldn't have team fortress if not for quake
dim plank
doom's community is insane
crimson folio
which is still good and i don't care what anyone says
balmy sluice
Is fucking eternal going to be on Bethesdas launcher?
mild ginkgo
im still a quake guy, i never really got into doom mods
crimson folio
it better not
crimson folio
well
balmy sluice
AAAAAAAAA
crimson folio
it better not be exclusive*
quake champions isn't
which itself is getting better, so yay
mild ginkgo
but FO is
crimson folio
fallout 76 didn't happen
mild ginkgo
lol
dim plank
fallout 76? what's that?
crimson folio
its up there with postal 3 and blood 2
dim plank
the unholy trinity of eraserhead baby games
crimson folio
fallout 76 as a game had so much potential. i actually liked it for what it was trying to do but the price tag was horribly off and the story/writing managed to somehow make fallout 3 look good
and everything else surrounding it is the worst unprecedented PR trainwreck in video game history
echo epoch
No Bethesda game has much potential until they pick up or code a new engine.
crimson folio
this engine stuff is something people put a misnomer on a lot
by this same logic, CS:GO uses the same engine as half-life 1
echo epoch
I mean, there's still bugs present from the Morrowind iteration, though.
crimson folio
yeah but people say 'new engine' like its that simple
i understand what you meant though
just a pet peeve
mild ginkgo
but you get the feeling the workflow they keep from using the same tools is holding them back
echo epoch
But, they've literally just plugged more and more on without fixing a whole lot, so it seems
crimson folio
it definitely is
but the real fallout people are making something cool
so maybe there's hope
dim plank
the outer worlds, baby
queen coral
you don't get the feeling, it really is, it makes every scenario on their game look like copy-pasted dungeons
echo epoch
The map tools are still almost identical
queen coral
it's really jarring
crimson folio
i'm still never forgiving their writer for what he did to fallout's sense of nuance
echo epoch
At least we have NV
dim plank
Simple. Efficient. Glorious.
echo epoch
Not to circle jerk too hard
crimson folio
it still suffered from the shrapnel
the enclave will never be an antagonist that can be taken seriously again
crimson folio
fallout 1, 2: kill child, get hunted for eternity, as would be expected
fallout 3: children take no damage
queen coral
@crimson folio have you checked this out yet? (its unrelated to dusk, sorry guys) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0Db0J0iSYU
dim plank
new Vegas: we were gonna let you kill kids but you can just use a mod
crimson folio
i've been scraping for more lo-fi stuff
black magick ss might make a new release in q2 next year, that seems about their schedule so far
queen coral
oof
echo epoch
Where are all the kids in Dusk?
Buried in that Swat4 map
queen coral
skyrim is a pain in the ass, they make the worlds most annoying kid NPCs
and they don't let us kill them
ffs
dim plank
GODDAMMIT DON'T GIVE ME FLASHBACKS TO THE TARRONE TENEMENT MISSION
echo epoch
Lol everyone here just loves that mission
solar shadow
Bethesda are only gonna nake it worse for themselves if Doom Eternal is gonna be exclusive to their shitty and shady launcher.. Its bad enough as it is with that the PC version of Rage 2 will only be on there... At this rate, you might as well just get the Xbox One or PS4 versions of them instead.
quartz zenith
I sold fallout 76 and got $34 in store credit back. I’m glad I got that much back from that dumpster fire
bitter ridge
Oh man that Swat4 mission was great
Unfortunately I had it spoiled for me but I was playing it with 2 friends who didn't know about it beforehand
harsh haven
why would DOOM be exclusive to their shitty launcher ?
Rage 2 will only be on therewtf, totally missed this information
queen coral
because that way they won't have to pay a % to steam
opaque spindle
my dudes
hollow garnet
And I wanted to get Rage 2.
pallid solar
I beat 
last night. Ep2 is
pallid solar
bronze jay
aghughghgh come on do it kill me
vale oar
🔫
rotund hinge
Big John was the greatest relief of Ep2
Erebus was intense, Escher Labs was horrifying, The Infernal Machine was a gauntlet, and then The Foundry if you went through that...
"Haha! Come on, kill me!"
😂
cosmic urchin
@rotund hinge then blood and bone to pull you right back in, or whatever came after :^)
misty spindle
There's a weird sound when I use the Assault Rifle, like someone hitting a desk with a wood plank or something...
Am I the only one who hallucinates ?
Never noticed it before
rotund hinge
It was Neobabel first and then Blood and Bone
Actually, geez... If Blood and Bone came directly after I probably would have preferred it lol
cosmic urchin
oh okay, as I said I haven't played ep2 in forever
neobabel was a mindfuck a little bit the first time through
rotund hinge
You're good
Neobabel was definitely supposed to be this horrifying shift, but it was sort of lost on me 'cause I'd already seen the level in Duskworld :(
and other than that I didn't really like it as much
scarlet perch
Do completionist awards I got pre-launch not count toward the achievement?
harsh haven
I completed neobabel yesterday, loved it
cosmic urchin
i desperately hope there are achievements for intruder start to finish in each episode
that made ep2 stupidly tense for me on CM lol
olive rock
I was thinking, wouldnt it be cool to have a coop survival mode?
queen coral
neobabel on DM was some crazy shit
I recall the first button with a monstercloset I simply picked up a small box, pushed the button and strafejumped outta the place with the box as cover for my ass
felt like 200iq
pallid solar
hahaha
hollow minnow
Hey, someone mentioning mother engine. Nice
tall harbor
I'm suprised that there isn't any DUSK tribute like at all.
torn lagoon
I always transcode to Opus to save space
queen coral
^
tho for audiophiles it doesnt matter if clipping in the music or w/e makes flac make zero difference
they want flac
jade root
i dont think the normal user is going to care
torn lagoon
So, is there a bandcampy place I can get it in FLAC?
cosmic urchin
i think just bandcamp where it's actually available
torn lagoon
so get it there, gotcha
cosmic urchin
yes
jade root
http://hulshult.rocks/ here are yer options
brittle lark
it makes me nervious watching gameplay of dusk and the player not bhoping around
crimson folio
So...Dawn SDK and workshop are coming sometime next month, which I find pretty exciting.
Though maybe a moderate amount of features will be available in the SDK.
dim plank
BUT func_vehicle is confirmef
proud tide
Where are the doom modders
dim plank
I don't think that's necessarily all that possible tbh
proud tide
There are plenty of games "ported" to Doom
It's just about porting the weapons and enemy types to the game haha
dim plank
bc dusk is really, really vertical
proud tide
I'm pretty sure some Doom modder will do it one of these days
Weapons and enemies into Doom
crimson folio
We need tanks and choppers for DUSK
vital heron
For some reason DUSK keeps freezing on me and soft crashing, it boots me out to desktop, but the application is still open and the game audio is still playing in background and I eventually have to close and reopen it. Any clues why? 🤔
queen coral
I love how there's still people fighting for func_vehicle still
gives me hope for humanity
vast tangle
It would be amazing if the SDK allowed for custom monsters, textures and so forth
queen coral
it will
crimson folio
Someone make the tractor and Jeep's driveable
pallid solar
jade root
Func_avain
queen coral
I will do it you don't scare me
crimson folio
A tractor... You can drive.... And mow down bad guys.
THIS IS DUSK.
Dusk Dude must not know how to drive..
What about a lawnmower
unique terrace
YASSSSS
hollow ivyBOT
🔄 DUSK IS OUT!!!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/
TELL YOUR FRIENDS! TELL YOUR MOM! GIVE US YOUR MONEY!
BUT WE’RE NOT DONE. STAY TUNED FOR NEW FEATURES AND CONTENT SUCH AS:
SDK - MAKE YOUR NUTS WAD DREAMS COME TRUE!
CO-OP - BLOW STUFF UP WITH FRIENDS!
DUSKWORLD CONTENT - BLOW UP YOUR FRIENDS!
MAYBE MORE STUFF???
Don't forget to leave a review. Let us know if you liked or hated it!
still peak
I found the wifey
dim plank
they're happily married but duskdude forced divorce by death
vast tangle
"'Till death do us part" (BLAM)
faint kelp
multiplayer makes me dissy
cold cypress
there's a trailer on yt for a game called DUSK except it's not THAT Dusk and this game looks like I am Legend and yt algorithm says it's New Bloods Dusk
wanna see?
jade root
we know what you are talking about
echo epoch
echo epoch
fortunately
cold cypress
:D
vast tangle
There can be only one (Dusk)!
graceful wing
game was a scam
the campaign creator and names on their website didn't match
crowdfunding scams are pretty common
balmy sluice
It's on my list lol
balmy sluice
echo epoch
Skill based movement maps are gonna be gr8
Can't wait for a bhop/rj server
So I can watch videos of people finishing them
analog fossil
e1mS is really good
cosmic urchin
a swampy custom map would be pretty neat
vast tangle
What I'm expecting the most are high quality episodes, more or less like the Death Wish mod for Blood
That shit was fantastic
molten plover
just remake quake rofl
echo epoch
Likely won't even need to remake quake
I know 500's already played around in the Quake maps with Dusk
dim plank
I have a question.
echo epoch
I have a (wrong) answer.
analog fossil
bloodrun! bloodrun!
dim plank
We got all the really kickass shit of the soundtrack,
but what about all the ambience?
analog fossil
Theres a few ambience tracks in there
echo epoch
Yeah I've seen people want a lot of the ambient tracks that aren't included.
No clue.
dim plank
a few
echo epoch
Maybe Andrew figured people wouldn't want them, or maybe there was a limit on album size on iTunes or Amazon
echo epoch
I want dat 👻.jpg
dim plank
I hope Andrew does release the other ambient tracks, though.
echo epoch
Seriously, first mod I'm making, that ghost follows you through the level on DM, killing you if it touches you.
thorn trout
echo epoch
I don't wanna sound like a gatekeeper but it hurts watching people stand still in Dusk lol
Then again, that was me at one point.
dim plank
I think I've sort of like
gotten into a "sometimes move and shoot and sometimes stand and shoot" mentality
queen coral
@thorn trout is there like, a blender model of the goats?
echo epoch
I'm always hupping
thorn trout
@queen coral yeah. How come?
queen coral
I want to see if I can pester someone to 3d print me one
echo epoch
Dusk FunkoPop
sturdy shadow
delet this