#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
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Board your windows
Lock your doors
Build an altar
Don't know where I was going with this tbh
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198061758497/recommended/519860/
Guys, this guy said that the game should be 5$, better lower the price
one of those reviews that you read and wonder if he's even played the same game as you did
Guys a game is just files that can be infintely copied
Why isn't it freeeeeeee XDDDDDDDDDDDD
u dont have to pay for it to be printed and distributed why isnt it free
all of that from 1 hour of gameplay, chur
you could breeze through the levels in DUSK very quickly but that would be the wrong way to play it for the first time
I AM BEZ QUAKE HARDCOWZ PLEYR HUP HUP HUP
^
he does mention being 4 levels into Ep2 and 5 into Ep 1
but that's bullshit, most likely
why would you even play like that
because you're a Quakelitist
he probably played Ep 1 and found it easy... when it's suppose to be easy
then mentioned he also played Ep 2 to give his opinion some more weight to it
Ep 2 is definitely not easy, especially not on a first playthrough
inb4 played on accessible
It's fine, people who have been playing quake forever are understandably upset it isn't quake
And there's definitely a level of animosity there where they feel like their thing is being taken away from them.
But the reality is we want to celebrate the things that make quake so fun, not try to invalidate it or diminish it in any way
The argument usually seems to be "you could be playing quake instead" which, while completely valid, is missing the point a bit I feel
It's NOT quake, so comparing it to quake will only be disappointing
And just in general with media, you could always be consuming X instead of Y
Why ever play a new game,or watch a new movie, when your favorite already exists
I hate that attitude
Yeah, and as much as we disagree with it, they're still entitled to that. They like quake better, and it can be had for almost nothing. So in their eyes, this is basically robbery.
the Quake influences are obvious but going so far as to say "you could be playing Quake instead" is just glossing over all the other things going for DUSK
Yeah totally
too bad that some people look at it as "it's either, or"
it's okay to enjoy two games

Luckily, it seems that's only the case with a small minority so far, hopefully not jinxing that π
knock on wood 
And luckily for them the market has never been better for choice
Dusk, ae, ion maiden, project warlock, that other 3dr quake game, etc etc
They can take their pick, they're all good
Who is the final boss in EP3
Also where be that E2M10 oob save
But you did it in the game files.
?
If you post spoilers, I WILL kick you
Quit looking through the data files
And if we did spoil it in the game files, you should know yourself
So why you asking to begin with?
Spoiling stuff like that is worse than spoiling the ending of Infinity War
._.
Besides only devs should know, keep that shit secret
Some people are just rude
I really don't think his question about the final boss had anything to do with him looking through the files
Well with all the talk and Twitter name changes like # days left before dusk, should be enough of a hint to it not being even out yet
you think we spoiled it in the game files
thats the funny part
just realize that we curated what you can and cannot see in them
I know that but players can speculate coming things from game files.
._.
I guess you'd just have to wait 10 days lol
p much yeah
Or 8
8?
Early access dudes get it one weekend early
Early access is if you purchased before last last halloween
Nah
anyone who currently owns it will be getting ep3
we are just keeping a few days buffer in case we need to fix anything before full launch
Wait but am I wrong on that?
Cause I remember ordering it way back when Ep 2 just was releasing
well even slightly before that
ep2 released around january technically
ep1 released some time in july 2017 i think?
August
the game entered early access the day ep2 released
Ah those early and innocent days
Well Ep2 released on christmas 2017
no it didnt
Yeah
I remember getting it a day before Christmas, waking up and seeing that damn that was good
yeah it was horrible
Set things in motion on a crash course
we had to like manage the game all day instead of celebrate the holiday π
You guys taking a break once you release Ep3?
oh most definitely
but you can expect more things from us soon as always
lets not forget AE has two episodes still in the works
and theres a bunch of dusk post launch plans
plus ports
youll all be well fed
Yeah foresure
Most important post launch thing of course being the old school hud
π
i think the SDK is what people are most excited about
and i think there are a fair number of people who want the switch port
Seriously excited about the old school style hud though
sure but its just a novelty
Yeah
i already play with the black bar enabled
which is close enough
its pretty much just missing a face
which, for obvious reasons, cant be there
yet
As in it's that gravely looking texture instead of the black bar?
Oh I understood what you meant by face
Featuring Sam Lake as DuskDude
id love that lol
is there a co op option that planning for Dusk?
yes
is it soon?
not very soon, no, later down the road
crab.
sorry :(
np
π DUSK 1.0 IS COMING DECEMBER 10th! Thats right, no more Early Access! But what does that mean?! It means EPISODE 3! DUSKWORLD IMPROVEMENTS! MEMES!
ALSO! As a taste of things to come weβve released endless 3, The Cathedral to the live build!
Would you like to know more?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/519860/announcements/detail/1700566430829988642
Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
THE MOMENT IS AT HAND DUSK v1.0 HAS A RELEASE DATE BEHOLD https://youtu.be/ArTqofOwzxE But that's not all... DUSK will launch at a special discounted price of $16.66 (heh, \m/emes) for a limited time. You're welcome. But what about me?! I paid $20 for DUSK - you owe me... $3....
VERY Soonβ’
Dec 10th dusk speedrunning is going to be nuts
The leader boards are being wiped for version 1.0
remember kids: the more times you recommend Dusk to a friend the higher the max bunnyhop speed!
I really don't see the leader boards changing very much I'll be going after those few levels I've held the record on
I didn't bother keeping up with e1m1 because the boards are getting wiped anyway
@thorn trout recommened Dusk to like 10 of my friends. They all said "what the fuck is this pixelated crap lol"
Sorry.
that's ok they can play Fortnite
with its new moth suit for the kids
and their memes
Things are getting much worse. They all play Fallout 76.
kids don't talk at all nowadays. They all play Fallout 76 π
maybe rename it to Brutal Dusk Royale
man I really am old, I don't even remember Fallouts 5-75
yeah, I can barely remember Fallout 35 now - but it defo was the worst one
I heard Fallout 69 was good
i posted a review of dusk, and mentioned it on a couple discords. couple people seemed interested in it. may have to get copies for 'em so they don't end up pirating the game.
Bought DUSK for 2 of my friends
Fair since I got the game by keydrop
As in, the 2 only friends who might be into such a game
I've got boring friends
@coarse flint thanks we appreciate it! And tbh if given the choice between them not playing it and them pirating it, we'd prefer them pirating it :). I mean of course IDEALLY they'd buy it but hey... if they want to pirate it first and decide if we deserve money, we ain't gonna cry about it.
yeah.
Imagine liking dusk lmao
imagine LEAKING dusk lmao
Was Dusk the first game release by NB ?
Image Dusk actually being good!
I can't believe the universe is going to go through heat death on December 11th
7 dayz left.
I'm glad that it doesn't end with that though
more cool stuff to look forward to
coop and most importantly, SDK
I'm really excited to see what people come up with and just snatch their garbage\masterpiece maps on Workshop and give it a whirl
I don't think it will go in upcoming releases since it's already in Early Access
also those of you who suggested it will be happy to know we changed the red key situation in E2M3
Huh
Wuh
Oh
Tendies
π DUSK 1.0 IS COMING DECEMBER 10th! Thats right, no more Early Access! But what does that mean?! It means EPISODE 3! DUSKWORLD IMPROVEMENTS! MEMES!
ALSO! As a taste of things to come weβve released endless 3, The Cathedral to the live build!
Would you like to know more?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/519860/announcements/detail/1700566430829988642
Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
THE MOMENT IS AT HAND DUSK v1.0 HAS A RELEASE DATE BEHOLD https://youtu.be/ArTqofOwzxE But that's not all... DUSK will launch at a special discounted price of $16.66 (heh, \m/emes) for a limited time. You're welcome. But what about me?! I paid $20 for DUSK - you owe me... $3....
10 DAYS
any news on the gog release, or was that just a sweet, sweet rumor?
Well what I know is that they want it to be on gog
next year sometime
I can now confirm that the @DUSKdev OST by @AndrewHulshult syncs perfectly with A Christmas Prince on netflix.
next week at this time, we'll finally be able to experience the greatness π
or at least, some of us
does the ep3 release make any more changes to ep 1 and 2
im wondering if i should replay them now, or if its worth waiting until ep3 releases to do so
I think the changes to those episodes were already made, when the release date of ep3 was announced
but I am not a dev, so there might be more changes planned with the ep3 release
Maybe some like extremely minor changes for 1.0
But I doubt anything worth doing another playthrough for
if its stuff like additional VOs then ill wait
but I think the best thing you can do
is to wait those 7/9 days
and then play it all at once as a complete game
to get the full intented experience
but it will take me a couple of days to go through ep1 and 2
itll still be playing it all at once, just with a like 3/4 day break between ep2 and 3
well then it's up to you π
we don't even know when it's gonna be released for us that bought the game in early access
a weekend before the others, but we don't know whether it'll be saturday evening, sunday morning, etc..
Working on getting some countdown clocks ready for you guys soon
Basically whenever Dave stops smoking and playing with his dogs
That's your time frame
Ye Saturday night of x timezone
Trying to get countdown timers going so people don't have to convert timezones themselves
Neat
I guess it'll be Sunday for people from Europe
na it will release at diff times in different timezones
its the night of whatever timezone youre in
mayb ~ 11 pm fpr time london
definitely Sunday for central Europe
oh boy this is gonna be torture
releases saturday night and I gotta go early on Sunday to study for 8 hours oof
but hey, beats waiting til Tuesday
monday*
π DUSK 1.0 IS COMING DECEMBER 10th! Thats right, no more Early Access! But what does that mean?! It means EPISODE 3! DUSKWORLD IMPROVEMENTS! MEMES!
ALSO! As a taste of things to come weβve released endless 3, The Cathedral to the live build!
Would you like to know more?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/519860/announcements/detail/1700566430829988642
Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
THE MOMENT IS AT HAND DUSK v1.0 HAS A RELEASE DATE BEHOLD https://youtu.be/ArTqofOwzxE But that's not all... DUSK will launch at a special discounted price of $16.66 (heh, \m/emes) for a limited time. You're welcome. But what about me?! I paid $20 for DUSK - you owe me... $3....
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN BADUMDOOOOOO!
Cant wait for the ep3 rele as e loved the teaser of ep3 at quakecon
It very good so far!
Indeed
some more sketches of the dude. based on the art in the comic. https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/014/370/161/large/jeshua-ruiz-dusk-dude-analysis.jpg?1543690726
how 'bout one last screenshotofthesaturday, dev bois?
@raven phoenix Absolutely amazing work!
Good stuff right there
oh man thats good
@raven phoenix i love seeing your depictions of the made up weapons
very cool to see them leave the game
We need @urban sparrow to cosplay as the DUSK Dude doing some of these poses!
PLEASE DON'T SPOIL SHIT
yo viscont what happened to the face in the moon
@fast wigeon shall bring moonface back in a couple of weeks π
I HAD TO
GET RID
OF IT
why?
o ok
just don't wanna be recognised here by some folks who knew me by the avatar only
did u commit a crime or smth and ur keeping low
wouldnt it make more sense to get rid of the moon completely then
No. I love the Moon. The Moon loves me.
ah ok
haha
@raven phoenix i love these
i tend to draw Duskdude a bit like marv in sin city, pretty wide and bulky, but the more paired down take you have here is really good and probably even more dyanmic to pose.
@vale oar You change under full moonΒ΄s effect ??
yur a Werescunt69 at full moon
nah it's Werescont76
oah fak right
π
π€
E3MS2
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
"only the beginning"
what if E3MS2 is the entire new episode trilogy
hidden in a pack
lol
π€
There isn't one lol, that's just a goddamn meme
jesus yall are cynical
Is the progress gonna be Reset for 1.0 ?
Tru
imagine launching the game and gettin' 5~6+ cheevos for already completed eps 1-2 lol
with all that pacifist shit etc
0.2 seconds after DUSK launches "DUSK 100% Completion Guide!"
you will not get any cheeves retroactively
you will have to play the whole game over to get them all
your progress will not likely reset, but you still have to replay the levels even if you have them 100%
^
tbh i'd recommend nuking your safe file and starting fresh
you'll probably have a better time with the game
which you'll do how?
I'm not much into finding those things and operating with them by myself
just delete the save file from the saves folder
should be in the game's root directory /saves/
so nothing complicated like with some other games then? π
unity is fairly simple in this regard
although david does hide himself in your appdata folder π
\AppData\LocalLow\David Szymanski\
well get him outta there
he's looking at your "wallpaper" collection right now
your progress through the game is stored in the scores file which is in the config folder
david is looking at my naked roomoos
mid-level saves are stored in the saves folder
and the screenshots for them are in the saveimages folder
wheres the bloatware saved?
programdata
actual footage of david being deleted
seconds before dusk is cancelled


We all got heckin bamboozled
rip
20 likes i delete the david, 20 dislikes i save the david
the choice is yours, gamers
On the edge of my seat.
Choosing the Reimu option
reimu option = i leak e3ms2
can't wait for hell shooter
huh
so theres an achievment for e3ms2
but since there isnt an achievment for e3ms i suspect its diversion
oh lol this is my alt acount
forgot to logout
na theres an achievment for e3ms on steamdb
Duskbaby
so the steam page said that everyone who bought the game before halloween gets the comic for free upon release. how do we get it?
Where is ep3
right there
So will the final release have the tweaks to Episode 1 and 2 or have those already been released?
E2M3 RED KEY SITUATION BABY
HOW MANY DAYS TILL DUSK?
β
if we hypothetically say that dusk will launch and wont get canceled
then how many days
β
okay it's 8 days till official release, ~6 for EA owners (or shit)
ja, it's gonna be wild
If only there was some way to tell when DUSK was coming out π€ https://t.co/2Lz22kG2ch
lol
told my friend who doesnt pay attention. his reply was something along the lines "Hell - It's about time."
been trying to get him to play duskworld with me but no luck so far (even tho he loves the genre)
well dont know about love but yknow
likes to hop and frag
i'm not a fan of DW either
I really like it. It's a workout xD
but it is pretty heavy playing seeing that you gotta be in 100% of the time to get anywhere
some of the best matches I've had were duels against someone from here where I only got maybe 2 frags max and we played for at least 5 rounds
ping was horrible as hell but it was still fun. That's saying something :D
π DUSK 1.0 IS COMING DECEMBER 10th! Thats right, no more Early Access! But what does that mean?! It means EPISODE 3! DUSKWORLD IMPROVEMENTS! MEMES!
ALSO! As a taste of things to come weβve released endless 3, The Cathedral to the live build!
Would you like to know more?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/519860/announcements/detail/1700566430829988642
Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
THE MOMENT IS AT HAND DUSK v1.0 HAS A RELEASE DATE BEHOLD https://youtu.be/ArTqofOwzxE But that's not all... DUSK will launch at a special discounted price of $16.66 (heh, \m/emes) for a limited time. You're welcome. But what about me?! I paid $20 for DUSK - you owe me... $3....
Ok beat Escher labs tonight... Missed 2 secrets .. found the cage room and the one you gotta crouch for by jumpy pad...
The weirdness of level is great. Y'all made it out to be the greatest map ever... It's good but my favorite Dusk map is Infernal Machine to this point. Debate me π
The twists were cool. Not enough games do weird crap like this.
Yeah infernal machine is cool
That meatgrinder especially
Also speaking of the Escher labs
pls fix
Super crystal of madness confirmed
And that earth level seems like it has a three paths for each key design, which I like
AND "the chaos crawls to me" is an HP Lovecraft reference
8 days my fsams
next week at 18:00 ill be playing it... hype choo choo is leaving SOON Station... ALL ABOARD
18:00?
Bandcamp stuff for Dusk is just about done and ready to go!
way it sounds it'll release between Saturday night and Sunday morning in my local time, and I'm not home for the bulk of Sunday so yeah, around 18:00
Makes sense
*6 days
I actually think Dusk is scarier than most horror games.
anyone wanna play online with me?
Just one more week to go about
6 days for me B)
Same my man
just saying cause it is going to basically feel like a week
I work all week too
D:
even weekends?
ik but a lot of jobs give you days off
1 or 2 days
Rare. All I get is a guarantee of 10 hours between the end of a shift and start of another one
I only have tonight off then I work Monday to Saturday
Busy busy busy, but Dusk shall come
soon
would you not rather have a day off
Hell nah, Sunday is mandatory double pay
ah
2 days money for half the effort
i have the exact opposite issue with college where i have way too much freetime and absolutely nothing i can do with it, besides study
i can do shit when im at home, but i have upwards of 3 hours each day at college thats free
its part of the reason why im so active here, because im so bored
I used to just go back home during leap classes
not an option for me
I work nights and I'm single now so nights are lonely and I try to get buds to go out drinking on my few nights off
home is literally miles from my college
I work chaotic shifts
i have to catch a bus at 9 and 4 every day
Sometimes day, sometimes night
Damn I don't know if I could do swapped shifts both days and nights
I usually get only one type in a period
Okay cause I was going to say that is like dangerous
My days off happen whenever I swap between day and night
damn well work makes time go by, so Dusk release should be imminent af
I'm probably not even going to play the finished game for a while after launch
Smash is going to take up my December free time
I've finished the game a few times already though ofc
Without going into details Ep3 is fantastic
And that's not just new blood biased talk
Legit miles ahead of ep 1 & 2
yeah it seems so
jab was saying that too, apparantly all of the levels are really unique
We've kept the second half of Ep3 a secret for a reason
i cant wait for next week to get these mocks over
well except for the sideways gravity part
im kinda hoping for a level thats like constantines mansion from TDP
escher labs was cool but it would be even cooler in a fantasy/gothic setting
π
While I can't talk about what Ep3 is about I can almost guarantee it'll surprise you
After all the wait, it should be good
Man I hope it is truly out of this world
Don't get me wrong it's pretty cool the first half of Ep 3 but I hope to be like mind blown
I'm sure it's going to be good either way though
im just hoping for good and challenging encounters more than anything else
There's only one really bad level
And it's the last one
Cause that means it's all over :(
π DUSK 1.0 IS COMING DECEMBER 10th! Thats right, no more Early Access! But what does that mean?! It means EPISODE 3! DUSKWORLD IMPROVEMENTS! MEMES!
ALSO! As a taste of things to come weβve released endless 3, The Cathedral to the live build!
Would you like to know more?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/519860/announcements/detail/1700566430829988642
Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
THE MOMENT IS AT HAND DUSK v1.0 HAS A RELEASE DATE BEHOLD https://youtu.be/ArTqofOwzxE But that's not all... DUSK will launch at a special discounted price of $16.66 (heh, \m/emes) for a limited time. You're welcome. But what about me?! I paid $20 for DUSK - you owe me... $3....
@jade root well over until we start modding it... At my rate of production, if I start when sdk did get released.... Work hard for 3 years then take a 15 years break... I'll be 55 and it'll be 2036
Heresy, Jab. It's not all over. THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

@jade root I think it's relevant to discussion... By then Dusk 76 Super Squad Edition should be out too
Thanks for the double ping fampai
Totally not trying to read Goblin Slayer and enjoy myself
SORRY no more
Dusk dusk dusk dusk
The room where you fight Mama... All those barrels, just thought about this.. if you line them up by her door does it let you do massive damage
yes
no
maybe
Don't drop the soap
Dusk is the only instance of dropping the soap benefiting the person who dropped it.
i still want to dip toilet paper in toilet and stick to things
Hey folks! Just bought and marathoned DUSK all this morning. Awesome game. Is there word on when the .fgd and .wad come out?
How is that marketing campaign for Dusk coming along?
Wait you guys are going to release a bit crushed version of Dusk in a wad file?
no
since we plan to use trenchbroom as the officially supported map maker, its asset packs come in .wad files
iirc the wad contains textures
and now someone who knows what they're talking about will explain more
:p
@void flower it will be a little bit of time before they are available, although perhaps we will make the wad available sooner rather than later
Yeah I imagine that's probably a bit of a pain to get working
nah its not too bad at all
but we are just trying to get 1.0 out the door
(next week)
heres a preview for you
*that version will never actually release
I'm so used to JACK
jack will be largely compatible
we have had dusk maps made in JACK
in fact, one of our most comprehensive test maps was made in jack
anyways the FGD will need to be made to conform with the modding SDK, which is not complete yet
Ahhh, gotcha
but i think we could make the WAD available soon
Rad
How do I access the test level with debug console in 1.0?
Will we not be able to create assets in SDK right?
i think youll be able to make anything with the sdk
Well with the .wad you could at least do like layouts and textures and crap
but yeah
The scale and setup of this moment... Brilliant dude
And I guess you could totally just make a map in Quake or something in the meantime, lol
the FGD might be available a tad before the full SDK is complete, we'll see
Distant ROTT 2013 noises
Honestly the visuals in Dusk actually impress me
I agree, Dusk has a good charming art direction and some nice use of lighting, obviously getting better in ep2, ep3 is Dec 8/10
though i do like e1's setting the most
It was just the least βwierdβ setting in Dusk.
E1 is Blood and Redneck Rampage having a baby with HalfLife
Dusk progressively gets weirder the more you play
ye
I am no completionist but I hated leaving the last secret I Erebus Reactor up on top of that light thing
the horros
Those reactor power node bits are just cool
The buzzing sound coming off of them, the bolts of energy... Just legit. Like that's the whole map was basically an arena battle
Huzzah
I like E1 a lot too as a setting, but I find ep2 is just higher quality with better gameplay and feels more cohesive. I know it sounds dumb, but I wish there was more Ep1 with the lessons learned from ep2, but its a nitpick since I like playing ep1 either way.
ep1 would be just as good as 2 for me, if it wasnt for cutty and steamworks
i think it has a really nice variety of locations, and its good to have some 'normal' levels
Yeah.
I love swamp visually so much though.
The use of candles and the atmosphere, the lighting.
E1M3 too with the tree shedding its leaves.
I liked cutty mine and steam works
yeah i liked them, but theyre easily the worst levels in the game
also i really like the enemies in ep1, the scarecrows are really fun cos i like enemies that shoot a fuck ton of projectiles
and the mages are fun despite how simple they are
I like the simplicity of e1, but I'd love more of it
yeah im really looking forward to the sdk so we can get some more challenging ep1 themed levels
ive heard 1.0 has a change to steam works and im curious how it will effect speedrunning it
E1's still my favorite in terms of aesthetics
cutty mines is great
Nah e1ms
I love that goofy ghost that floats by hahahah
yeah for speedruns im sure its hated
oOoOoOoO
Also, the fakeout with the yellow key rules
but i think that level displays mastery that isnt present in a lot of places throughout the rest of the game
Top-notch trap
its considered the worst level to run by far for any category by all runners
Cutty has a ghost which is 10/10, but otherwise it was the weakest level for me in terms of gameplay and a difficult one due to the lack of manouverability, its a cool concept, just could do with maybe some more open spaces, keep narrow areas, maybe add some new areas like a pit thats crossed via bridge, it just has flawed flow and ends up feeling rather short.
E3 routing is gonna be interesting
i have a good feeling e3 will be a gold mine for prop hopping
harrah is going to have a fatanstic time with e3 i know it
it has a true understanding of how to reuse space , and confuse/disorient the player with a VERY frugal budget of space
it's definitely a big contrast against the logging level before it
that level is absolutely what levels should aspire to be
sawdust is my bae π»
its probably one of the better levels to run in the game
for IL
Im very fond of E1MS and E1M2.
Comic is more or less done now. I hope you guys enjoy it for what it is.
Ooh! Awesome
has the timer been changed in anyway at all in 1.0?
no
or the weird .01-.02 variation?
wasnt that fixed ages ago?
I plan to do something special for the Physical print beyond just another layer of polish. so get in on that if you enjoy what you see.
i havent done runs but last time i did it was a thing still a few weeks ago
500 i agree with you that cutty is very elegantly designed
but the leaderboards are being wiped for dusk with 1.0
especially with the 'maze' part that makes you get lost without actually being that complex
I do love the ambient track and its atmosphere.
but it becomes a bit of a formality on repeat playthroughs
also with 1.0 out ill actually play any%
steamworks also does a lot of similar things to cutty
then ill work on something for SGDQ or something ill have time to prep
no it doesnt lol
steamworks is a boss speedrun
both aim to confuse and disorient you
steamworks only does that in the first part though
noooot really
its really linear
the yellow key room?
thats been changed
wait so the corridor doesnt turn into a staircase anymore
theres no longer an alternate route of of that room by default
there is one exit, and its right way to go
then how do you get to the secret?
aww so no more flying down the stairs at mach 100?
which exit is blocked
one that isnt the stairs
there ya go
fuck dude that made steamworks so legit to run
oh damn
the speedrun hasnt changed at all
its just made the level less confusing
that was such a good run
i always thought that was the point with that area
getting the spacing right before doing the big hup over the 3 jerrys and landing it clean is one of the most adrenaline pumping things ive done in the game for runs and i love that blue switch shot right after
anyway, cutty and steamworks have other similarities besides
theyre both more claustrophobic and horror focused
see
the first part is
lmao
cutty mines has you retreading old ground the entire time
steamworks you backtrack once or twice, but mainly its forward progress
people are scared of different things, which is fair
none of the other levels phased him
its the maze at the beginning, where you can hear leathernecks coming after you cos they spot you through the grates
but you dont know where theyre going or when theyll find you
woke take: every map is a horror map when you're bad at games like i am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoMd434KNoI @mild ginkgo so my run here wont be affected?
it will nto be
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But you touched the door in that video....
yeah
will it be closer now?
if closer im kinda glad less RNG on the shotgun spread to hit it
i dont think its there at all now
i mean you can always get the AR thats right there and has 100% accuracy
well im telling you its probably your new route :)))))))
well for old build ill do what ever is the fastest regardless of consistency
and i still will for 1.0
still shotgun then
glhf
actually i have a better chance
i found shooting them on a angle helped with spread
ahhh
thats not science
i forgot where the switch was
also its in a better spot i dont think ill have to lean out for it ill be able to have a more direct line to the door way after i shoot it
so like 16-17 seconds is likely where a solid run will land now
my 20.02 has stucks that could be like a 19 or 18
i come from goldeneye we find ways
no matter how degenerate
i was going to cook up some e1m1 on dec 10th but tbh steamworks got me more fired up
definitely i could see a tenth of a second or whatever saved
just because of the leatherneck dodge
ive optimized the fuck out of e1m1 and its now just time to go for a the god run on it but for other levels there is so much more progress to be made towards true optimization
the problem is i have to change strafes and do more WASD type input changes which slows duskdude down
the more i can hold a strafe with out to much change in input the better
also the door it self leading to the blue key could be shot sooner saving more time on not grinding it
im just hoping more people pick up full any % runs
ILs are cool but i cant grind the same level 1000 times in a row
i will be ive been waiting for the full game to come out first
personally it also depends on rule set for any% if they use in game only i kinda dont like it
menuing etc should be included and a separate timer used
because the game doesnt actually continue with out doing it between episodes
and transitioning levels
right
it still requires the user to react and input
in nascar or f1 do they stop the race for you to change tires or fuel up that car?
no but id equate it to them timing you taking a shit before the race
also nascar is a race in realtime against others anyways
i know this is an unending debate in tons of games for years anyways
any% can be raced against one another
we wont be the ones to solve it
i think any% has always been tradtional to including the menuing involved to change levels
at AGDQ it would suck to see someone in the middle of a doom run just stop and take a break because the timer is "stopped"
for me it equates segmented runs
i think in game time should still be used but a real timer should be along side it
i mean there are tons of games at agdq that go off IGT
yeah but they actually put a real timer on them while doing runs
and count the menus in-between
mostly as a formality, the run time isnt actually measured based off that timer
like say if a WR was set there
its up to the rules of the game
and the game was traditionally measured in IGT
yeah definitely
its been a long long debate
for dusk id rather see both submitted
in tradition menus have been included
i know there are people who are faster then others are flipping menus in GE between levels
if you ever see alex andersons menu flips its actually insane
the dude is just world class at the game
its a menu though
i cbf to care about a menu
thats my main issue with it
they literally only exist as a formality
its a small one so as a speedrunner why not do it
it should be easy and included
its in the programming of the game it self
to just say its not needed then well you dont really deserve to advance in the game
it is needed to advance the game
i dont really agree with that lol
i know it seems super nit picky but its fact
theyre totally separate things
its programming
what about rpgs? or pokemon
those games have gameplay in the menus
there is no part of the game dusk linked to the menus
^ was just about to say that
then why did you put effort in too it and make it styleized?
if its so unimportant to the experience?
so normal casual players can play it?
you could have had black and white text only
sure yeah
but that would turn away casual players
if we were catering to speedrunners only there would be no menu
The entire game could be untextured with no sounds and still be the same gameplay
but i am a speedrunner who says keep menus though
right definitely
i feel like its still apart of it in terms of a run because you cant advance with out it
speed runner glitch and break games in so many ways its almost like we are just re-programing it ourself
so from a programming standpoint and code
but if we were designing a game for speedrunners only, we would focus on honing the experience to be as no nonsense as possible, and reduce variability as much as possible
and that would mean no menus, all config would be CLI etc
probably no loading
how does a menu differ from any other piece of code or programming or binary running through the cpu?
in intention mostly
well, one is part of designed gameplay
and the other exists as a way for users to get to the gameplay
but a computer cant differentiate birary that is gameplay vs binary that is menu
its only ever a 0 or 1
but a human can
and like i said, you arent wrong, its been a super divisive toping for runs of all kinds
it may very well be the standard dusk uses
im just saying i disagree with including menus in speedrun times
it's not about how the computer perceives the game, its about the user
computers are just very quick morons you tell them to do something and it will do it
regaurdless of what you intended
dont most speed runs not include menu time?
any% does
hence bug fixes
for this game specifically, sure
but thats up to the community of users
like, lets be real here, youre running a pc game
pretty sure we not using in game time for any% atm
already thats suspect
you have non standard hardware running at different framerates etc
it effects behaviors of all kind
Also wouldn't loading screens be included in the time?
its just how far out you want to extend silly logic
just the nature of the beast of speedrunning tbh
right exactly
if you dont like the hardware dont run the game
would character creation be factored into game time? cause i didnt add that in my UA "speedrun"
i think you guys are kinda missing my point
usually any% has a start point of the timer and an end point for the timer
and anything inbetween is counted including loading screens and menuing
the timer shouldnt stop just because
but you see why some people dont like that right?
yeah thats why you run segmented
lets be honest here dusk is not a demanding game
yeah im not talking about dusk specifically
my computer is 5 years old and i have some of the fastest IL times
just as a whole
its also a litteral paywalling content based on your PC specs
so FPS isnt that much of a factor for people
Putting it on an nvme drive would likely help your loading screen times though
dusk devs, have you ever played any puppet combo games and to what extent does DUSK borrow from the former?
Unless at an FPS of below 20
@kindred coyote yeah david is good friends with the dev
if you got an SSD and most people are using Hard drives it gives you an advantage
neato
what's puppet combo?
who doesnt have a SSD today though?
yeah he loves puppet combo
hello, i do not have an ssd
many folks
a developer of gritty 70s-80s-inspired retro horror games
i couldn't finish power drill massacre tbh, i'm too much of a bitch
SSD's aren't super common for gaming till you get to higher end of the PC SPECtrum
the zed ecks spectrum
but yeah ill fight for dusk any% to have a proper start point and end point for Any% and anything inbetween counts
yeah and its probably the way it will end up being
im just saying in my opinion its silly
and in my opinion its not so thats why i usually avoid running games like that
but i also come from a space where console hardware is the same for everyone and its an even playing ground
right yeah, and it makes a lot of sense in that case
load times always being the same, etc
i tend to agree there
i totally get what you mean but i feel for an old school shooter like dusk it needs to follow the old school frame work
in that case it makes sense but PCs are different in that case
so, when dusk hits with switch, maybe the speedrun cominity should go to IGT
i doubt many people are gonna run it on switch lol
dunno, there are crazys dud there
id love to see a super optimized switch run lol
Except people didn't have doom on an nvme
i cant see many people speedrunning dusk on a console
with the pixel botton to E1M9 eqs deee
i think ultimately this will boil down to the sdk version anyways
id hate to admit it but switch version would likely be the hardest one to run
i'd speedrun dusk on my switch, after i hooked up my keyboard and mouse to it
someone will make an uninterrupted mod for it that plays from e1m1 to e3m10 without main menu
if only for the factor of most speed running crowds stick with the Original platform the game was released on
and then you can just time beginning to end
ive got some meme dusk speedrun ideas in the works when the SDK is out
the best meme run will be prop hop only runs
cant wait for 500 to add an additional 5 second wait for each load time on switch just to discourage switch speedruns
any floor that is not a physical prop will kill you if you stand on it other then that its prop hop your way to the end
dusk any% but need to get the soap to the exit
yes
that'd be an interesting gamemode
kinda like that old HL2 achievement
been thinking... since zooming in while holding the sword isnt of much use, maybe its charged attack could be an alternate function via RMB? So that even when you have over 100 health you could still hold LMB to do continuous sword swings, which would honestly be more comfortable than spamming LMB instead.
RMB is for blocking
Where would be the best place to ask about the far future switch port?
I recently sold my soul to nintendo by buying the online to get my Splatoon fix and I remembered DUSK was doing a Switch thing eventually
are the servers actually better or the same now that people pay for it?
what questions do you have about the switch port
I never had a problem with them before, so I noticed no difference
i can do my best to answer them
is it coming out on switch?
its on our list of things to experiment with! i think its a strong liklihood that there will be some form of gyro controls
i hope so that will make speedrunning interesting
The control scheme for Splatoon is probably the best thing to happen to console shooters since the PC
but for the love of god, please allow x/y sensitivity options for both the stick and the gyro
i cant say ive ever played a game with gyro controls, so we will be doing research on the best way to put it in dusk, but its on the list
splatoon is definitely the best controls ive used with gyro
i recently tried vr and that was pretty mind blowing as well in terms of monition tracking type control thingys
I did a big writeup on it once, one of those billion word walls of text you see on shitty internet forums
also dusk vr when
then lost the draft so I can't link it
but basically it overlays the mouse style 0>180 degree motion of a mouse on top of the 0>100% speed motion of a control stick
literally unplayable
Oh, and a sensitivity slider for gyro/stick controls should actually include a 0 option that disables that axis
Splatoon for disables vertical stick aiming when gyro controls are enabled, and I could see people either wanting it on or being able to disable horizontal aiming with gyro
well, that's all I have to say on that for now
happy gibbing
WOW
I can't believe I missed the opportunity to say Happy Gibsgiving
just finished Ep 1 for the first time since the changes
really love all the little changes\added stuff, especially in E1M10
whats been added in e1m10?
the cult leader has one additional line, and I'm pretty sure that "This is only the beginning" has been re-recorded
also that green energy flowing into the Creation's chamber, I'm pretty sure that's new
i cant remember tbh, id have to play it again
will move on to replay Ep 2 tomorrow
I'll just leave this right here https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/014/390/683/large/jeshua-ruiz-duskdude-vs-caleb.jpg?1543788940
duskdude is always winnning
Dusk dude is invulnerable to fall damage unless falling into the void
He also can jump really far despite his age
episode 3 when
Iirc it'll be some time on the 8th, which will probably mean early Sunday in Europe.
seriously EP3 early acess is dec 7? Path of Exile betrayal releases the same day....
Oh man @red gale , the more I see of your work on the graphic novel the more I can't wait to finally read it. Will it be available for the early release already?
its dec 8th
so Saturday is the Dusk-day
Wait so when does dusk come out
I wonder how much the MP is gonna blow up when dusk day arrives
wait so
in terms of absolute time since the big bang
down to the micronanosmallosecond
13.772 billion years
Am I the only one who feels like 13.772 billion years is an oddly young age for the universe?
Considering our planet is estimated to have been around for 4.5 billion years
1 billion seconds is 31.7 years to put things to scale
actually, 1 kazillion is slightly larger than 1 billion
1 kazillion is 1 billion plus half a kajillion
lol
Anyone have a pic of the Priestess I keep gearing about? Haven't seen her yet
So early access owners are getting it 3 days before? What happened to the week before release ? ):

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