Might change with the stuff that will be revealed about him in Ep3
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
opal plover
gleaming berry
what did I miss
Dusk dude really has no backstory at this point
it won't matter in the end
mild ginkgo
im ready for them to take every word you say literally 1:1
clever wasp
he's spongebob
opal plover
Squid made an unintentional Jojo reference
crisp lion
who is his doesn't matter
gleaming berry
also the wendigos are literally the bloodsuckers from stalker yes
crisp lion
it's what he's about to do
neon dove
Yeah and I spun it into a Ronnie James Dio reference
gleaming berry
david did that very intentionally
neon dove
Yeah, thats what I was thinking when I heard the breathing
opal plover
Anyway has the "where do you think you're going" line been rerecorded?
gleaming berry
why whats wrong with it
neon dove
Had some mad STALKER flashbacks
opal plover
Its got some thick saliva
gleaming berry
r u making fun of Andrews amazing work
mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
gleaming berry
we went thru E2M1 the other day it didn't stand out
clever wasp
give him your voice Dave
gleaming berry
we're redoing and adding some VO but that one seemed fine
opal plover
You're the producer
crisp lion
yeah E2M1 is pretty big miss level
neon dove
Someone said something about the cowgirls/mama getting voice lines and im scared
opal plover
Nah E2M1 is a pretty good introduction level
crisp lion
definitely the least interesting E2 level
gleaming berry
I mean its the intro level
neon dove
I liked E2M1
gleaming berry
has two fun combat sequences you can use a new powerup in
introduces new enemies
gives you the riveter officially for the first time
opal plover
I mean that's just because Ep2 being so balls to the walls
opal plover
Not because of E2M1 iself
neon dove
Yeah, the climbing power up is neat. Did anyone find the unique power up in Erebus Reactor? It looks like Robocop, lol
crisp lion
there's no such thing as a wrong opinion
gleaming berry
except yours which are both bad and wrong :-p
thats the lava suit
@neon dove
prvents fire damage
if u wanna go hang out in the lava
neon dove
Yeah, but it just emits....strong Robocop vibes
gleaming berry
theres a secret down there but u can also just bhop to it if ur good
opal plover
Anyway what if you redesigned the E1M9 combat so you can blow up the gas station
gleaming berry
Ghost Town is most getting a visual pass
nothing else stood out in it
blowing up the gas station would be pretty good
crisp lion
Ghost Town > The Granary
mild ginkgo
good luck convincing david to do that
gleaming berry
HALT CITIZEN
neon dove
YOU SEE THE RESEMBLANCE
mild ginkgo
when are you going to address the lightmap errors in e1m3?
HMMMMMM?
its important
game is pretty trash otherwise
crisp lion
no u
prisma halo
when are you going to address the game being bad
neon dove
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
opal plover
Also I was thinking of like a neobabel forshadowing by like a newspaper in E1 that says something about UFO sightings when you interact with it
gleaming berry
reminds me of that HOW TO FIX ZFIGHTING IN UNITY
puts trash can over zfighting textures
boom done
opal plover
Also pls fix floating grass in E1M3
neon dove
My screenshot? Escher Labs
opal plover
Like to the right of the mausoleum entrance
prisma halo
the sekrit goat room
gleaming berry
yeah thats secret with the goats
that poweup wasnt in the floor today
we just ran that level
must be u
fix ur shit
neon dove
Yeah, it happens to a couple items
mild ginkgo
neon dove
mostly the purple crystals
gleaming berry
oh scott found it
prisma halo
I'm not sure what causes it
gleaming berry
Unity causes it by being bad
prisma halo
tbh
neon dove
Insectoid Mi-Go enemies in Ep4 confirmed
But yeah, I'm hyped for Nameless City, big Lovecraft/Xen vibes.
gleaming berry
OH MY GORRRRRRRRRR
mild ginkgo
yeah theres a ton of those in e1m3
mild ginkgo
hey man i dont wanna fuck with davids creative vision
gleaming berry
IM TAKING IT OFF STEAM
Replacing it with The Dead Linger
fuck we could actually do that
the ultimate troll
mild ginkgo
if he imagined floating grass, who am i to say he shouldnt
gleaming berry
no really tho fix the grass lol
mild ginkgo
neon dove
Is DUSK really going on switch though? I don't have a switch but I just thought it was neat
mild ginkgo
yes
gleaming berry
yep it runs @mild ginkgo plays it on the toilet
jk he cant cuz the switch dev kit needs corded power
mild ginkgo
lmao
gleaming berry
reeeeeeeeeee
opal plover
Oh god I knew about the floating grass in E1M3 since before early access
opal plover
We can play dusk where Andrew records his stuff now
mild ginkgo
see its a toilet
gleaming berry
LEAKS
mild ginkgo
its a meme
neon dove
Play Dusk in church
crisp lion
I thought Andrew recorded his stuff at the dump
gleaming berry
HOT DUSK LEAKS
neon dove
Play Dusk while eating big burg
opal plover
Get a preacher to talk about fighting evil by playing Dusk
neon dove
Televangelist DUSK boss
opal plover
Reverend Godshyne boss
neon dove
If there IS going to be a workshop, I'd like to try and do a spooky County Fair/ carnival map. Or at least see someone else do one
mild ginkgo
its just the framerate tho
opal plover
Also can you devs please fix that thing were when you stop crouching in spaces where the celing is a bit higher than the crouched player it just makes the screen twitch
neon dove
I also want to do a Slaughterhouse or an base a map on some of the Produce markets i see out in the mountains where i live
mild ginkgo
and enable toggle crouch
opal plover
Why would I want to have the toggle crouch in a game with the sliding
mild ginkgo
because it makes it work better
instead of accidental short stops etc
the is designed to be played with crouch toggle
opal plover
Yeah because David is a savage
Also are you gonna tell me to disable the unlocked Y axis to not have the screen twitch when you look up or down
neon dove
screeech
mild ginkgo
you know what ELSE is unplayable
mild ginkgo
neon dove
monkaS
So if DUSK is all like...Unity stuff. Could I get some dusk models to walk around as in VRchat or something?
mild ginkgo
Its easy enough to do if youre looking to do it
also i think some people have them up on the workshop already
specifically i know the soldier was ported to vrchat
neon dove
oh neato!
neon dove
beautiful
clever wasp
it's not even orthogonally aligned reeeeeeeeeee
neon dove
final boss is a tribute to The Great might Poo
clever wasp
nah fam it's the color palette to the SSG
neon dove
Conker, a classic retro FPS
crisp lion
is that Loss?
neon dove
He's the only thing you can't flush down the DUSK toilets
clever wasp
SPOILER: Dusk uses correct units, instead of freedom units
opal plover
Now we know E3M10 will have blue lighting
neon dove
Big John...what're you doin; out in the woods!
opal plover
Hey did you change the sounds of the E2M2 water droplets?
mild ginkgo
probably not
did i mention i fixed the sword the other day @opal plover
its fixed
dont worry anymore
you can sleep at night
opal plover
🙏
mild ginkgo
also, the charge is now effected by the haste powerup
opal plover
Is the cigar afected by haste now?
mild ginkgo
thats not a bad idea
crisp lion
Haste Powerup?
mild ginkgo
🤔
crisp lion
weapon fire speed powerup you mean?
neon dove
What does the Cigar...-do- exactly?
opal plover
Also I like that you can fast swing the non charged sword with 100+ health by using the quick melee
viral gate
Having a smoko m8
opal plover
UNLIMITED POWAAAH
viral gate
opal plover
Also what if you made it so you can go up and down with the climbing thing while being turned around
delicate sail
No hose for me
mild ginkgo
tell you what
opal plover
That would have been really neat actually
opal plover
Like I could see that being between E2M6 and E2M7
Actually more like between E2M5 and E2M6
mild ginkgo
currently dusk has no support for horizontally moving geometry under duskdude because it will just slide out from underneath him
opal plover
I know vertical stuff works
opal plover
Like standing on top of the E1M8 gate and shooting the button works
delicate sail
So with those open movers in the SDK, would a Blood E1M3 remake be possible?
delicate sail
neat
slate edge
New Forkmaiden Voice overs are pretty creepy and nice 👍🏻
opal plover
New cowgirl and priestess sounds in the future apparently
opal plover
Actually yeah just listened to the cowgirl stuff
Doesn't fit the thematic of this just being a weaponized human being who can only express pain through moans
fast wigeon
yeah
opal plover
Although she is recording priestess stuff tonight
fast wigeon
also the cowgirl lines i heard a few weeks ago were too long and felt forced tbh
priestess voice could work
slate edge
E3MS2 tho
fast wigeon
but fork maidens and cowgirls, na
opal plover
Yeah the thing is that I REALLY like the fact that the priestess noises are just metallic noises
But I would like to have the implication that some of the nameless city natives possess intelligence of some kind
fast wigeon
priestess could work if lines were super short like the mages
crisp lion
I hope the Priestess speaks using Latin or Hebrew or something
mild ginkgo
just recognize that just because lines have been recorded, does not mean they will be used
crisp lion
as long as they're supplied in the files for modders
well Lovecraft used Aklo, so it's canon in the cthulu mythos
slate edge
I mean, I kinda like the Fork maiden lines, adds to the overall atmosphere and creepiness of the cutty mines
crisp lion
so it should be canon for DUSK naturally
fast wigeon
i mean david added the fork maiden lines so its reasonable to assume he might add others
prisma halo
the file structure of the SDK ultimately gets decided by me so if I leave anything out just yell at me for it
mild ginkgo
yeah im assuming the sdk will include nearly everything we can find
prisma halo
pretty much
mild ginkgo
unless dave/david for some reason forbid their distribution
prisma halo
if I forget something it's simply because I forgot
crisp lion
we'll rip you guys up if we find shit that's been left out
prisma halo
or that
crisp lion
me and Manniacc
prisma halo
or legal reasons, like with the meat lass texture
mild ginkgo
heh
crisp lion
what is the meat lass texture gone poof?
mild ginkgo
you could probably claim fair use on it
slate edge
Meat lass`s pain sound still exists, poor meat lass ;-;
prisma halo
the meat lass texture is composed of other images @crisp lion
prisma halo
images which usage rights are not clear on
crisp lion
will the DUSK workshop allow copyrighted music? lol
fast wigeon
just do a limbo of the lost and steal everything
prisma halo
that's for steam to decide
opal plover
No idea how I would even start ripping shit but okay @crisp lion
mild ginkgo
upload things at your own risk
slate edge
If its copyrighted, I`d avoid it lol
fast wigeon
then no ones sure who should sue so youll never get sued
mild ginkgo
youre the one theyll come after, not us
crisp lion
well LFD2 gets away with workshop items using copyright materials
opal plover
What if I make a quake champions music mod for duskworld?
mild ginkgo
do as you please
prisma halo
anyway the meat lass texture has been posted before and it's not like you won't get it via some means
we're just gonna avoid including it in a commercial product
crisp lion
probably because it ain't being payed for (bein free and all) though it obviously treads on the rule of unlawful distribution perhaps
opal plover
Through diabolical means
mild ginkgo
the legal borders will be yours to dance on, not ours
crisp lion
TIL, Leathernecks replaced Meatlasses
crisp lion
is that a Doom Delta ref? lol
slate edge
I like "new_enemy"
crisp lion
what is new_enemy? apparently something we've already seen
mild ginkgo
leathernecks were a very literal replacement for meatlass
opal plover
BAM BAM easy money
prisma halo
more like hoores
mild ginkgo
leathernecks in game are called Meat Lass
prisma halo
muh Japanese memes
crisp lion
both melee scums
ultimately Leathernecks fit the theme of DUSK more than Meat Lasses'
opal plover
Well of Ep1
slate edge
Meatlass soccer mod when
mild ginkgo
meat last was pretty stupid feeling to fight
prisma halo
meat lass soccer was amazing
mild ginkgo
lmao
opal plover
They could spawn out of meat cocoons too
mild ginkgo
crisp lion
Meat Lass would've worked if executed right, have her leap at the player dealing massive damage, like a non-flying lost soul-Quake Demon hybrid
prisma halo
but the regular meat lass attacks? I sleep
opal plover
Massive damage
crisp lion
the Meat Lass would be like a sexually disturbing enemy
crisp lion
though it'd be probs too silent hill for DUSK tbh
opal plover
I mean isn't that what the hounds of torment are, about the mechanics you described?
slate edge
Mr Friendly is not nice 😢
mild ginkgo
crisp lion
The Cartdog is more akin to Doom 4 pinky than Quake fiend
mild ginkgo
lmao
prisma halo
scott no porn in nb
mild ginkgo
i spent entirely too much time on that
opal plover
Wether they leap or rush at you isn't really relevant tbh
crisp lion
my meat lass would in theory be basically be a glass cannon Quake Fiend
fast wigeon
leathernecks are better for melee enemies
prisma halo
crisp lion
that texture is too Amid Evil for DUSK tbh
prisma halo
it was an auto generated texture iirc
opal plover
Ohhhhh yeah
mild ginkgo
i used substance painter and slapped together a slimy bumpy material in like 5 minutes
the point was MeatLassHD
opal plover
"slimy"
mild ginkgo
but i gave up after having to re-rig and re animate her
just falling apart at every vertex
opal plover
Dusk just cannot handle gud graphix
mild ginkgo
well no i just had very little patience lol
fuck animation and rigging
that shit would kill me if it was my job
urban jetty
Can i post a photo?
mild ginkgo
i mean it depends on what it is
but yes
you dont have to tell us
just check the #rules and see if it violates them
thats your main guideline
vague egret
to add to that, you being unranked prevents you from directly uploading. to get around that, you have to upload it somewhere else and link it
that restriction goes away once you get rat rank
slate edge
Wait
What if
To kill the final boss we flush it down the toilet since we are speaking of Dusk`s advanced Hygiene engine™
opal plover
Honestly
Why is E1M9 easier than E2M9
Like to this day the E1M9 combat sequence is hard as balls
urban jetty
Really?
I just did it on nightmare o.o
I dunno this is my first playthrough and im not having any trouble
opal plover
Feel like E1M9 and E2M3 have the hardest fights
urban jetty
dang well there you go
opal plover
Anyway is it me or do the grand wizards have more gibs?
Like I think gibbing in general would be 25% more satisfying if all enemies spawned this many gibs
delicate sail
Also had the feeling that something about the gibs is different. Can't tell if just imagined though, it's been a while since I gave Dusk SP a go
Btw, have there been any reports about major issues caused by the Unity2018 port? So far, I can't really seem to find anything that hasn't carried over smoothly
opal plover
Melee enemies sometimes do random 180s
Also That was always there but sounds seem delayed in the E2M3 arena sometimes
delicate sail
What happened there? I know that the game has gotten an update which lets you choose engines, as it was ported to one that has retrospecively been favored by the devs. Purchased it way after all that was done though.
crisp lion
eh more or less the same
the random 180s is just instant random ai reaction
with melee enemies
final estuary
i've seen a leatherneck do a complete 180 and just start running
also how tf do you do pacifist on The Dim Slough
opal plover
And a wendigo too
Also dim slough pacifist is possible
Just slide past the leatherneck
delicate sail
Maybe they 're just scared cuz they heard the Dusk dude can block meelee attacks now
final estuary
yeah i know it is but i have trouble at that part when you actually get the blue key
i tried using the box to sneak around the leatherneck and cultist but i think i fucked up
final estuary
it doesn't always work because leatherneck just bodyblocks you in that tunnel
same with the hallway in the factory
final estuary
absolute madman
opal plover
And reflect only was a thing I thought of before release
100%kills
You need to reflect projectiles at melee enemies
final estuary
i'm trying to fully complete both dim slough and old time religion on cero miedo currently
urban jetty
@mild ginkgo If you add that in credit me pls ill put it on my resume
delicate sail
"2018 - suggested to make soap clean stuff"
urban jetty
^^ exactly
final estuary
needs more soap
opal plover
Literally unplayable
final estuary
never enough soap in dusk
crisp lion
hmm?
crisp lion
this yours or official?
opal plover
Mein
urban jetty
See how useful the soap would be here
final estuary
soap
what if the bars of soap could damage both parties
so you just slip and get oneshotted by soap
urban jetty
yes
slate edge
change all textures to jabosh
brittle lark
you can camp mama here
delicate sail
The horror
thorn trout
Fingerbones memes are the worst memes
tired whale
I respectfully disagree
shell arch
the fuck is this fingerbones meme?
vague egret
🤷
vale oar
BONEZZ
tired whale
we're memeing a game david made about losing his virginity
tired whale
Oh yeah? If it isn't what it's about, how do you explain THIS
thorn trout
the protagonist is messed up af
shell arch
yo - it's actually real 
tired whale
Told you, I wouldn't lie
shell arch
color me interested
thorn trout
@shell arch yeah I made a couple walking sim horror games before Dusk
Fingerbones is probably the worst tho
has a bunch of issues
shell arch
huh
i never knew about it
i mean - i played the one that's included in the dusk files
tired whale
So what you're saying is, your first time was a horrifying experience David? 😃
acoustic oriole
why is it a meme NOW of all time?
shell arch
yeah i was about to ask
tired whale
reb brought it up, i looked it up and found that one line very funny
and decided to share the love around 😃
a collaborative effort like any bullying sesh should be!
acoustic oriole
LUL
thorn trout
is it really bullying if I'm able to ban any of you at will? ;)
tired whale
shit das true
thorn trout
@tired whale this is true
acoustic oriole
they extra gib
final estuary
I only know soap
shell arch
oh and speaking of
correct me if i'm wrong, but i've never seen a skeleton in dusk
oh i've seen skulls and bones
thorn trout
you are correct
shell arch
but is there a full skeleton somewhere in dusk?
final estuary
The wendigo is technically a skeleton
shut mesa
thorn trout
there's a very good lore reason
final estuary
You're huge, that means you have a huge skeleton
thorn trout
just kidding it's actually because full skeletons are hard af to model and texture
shell arch
thorn trout
at least for a scrub modeler and texturer like me
shell arch
OH MY GOD i just had the best idea ever
tired whale
of questionable nature
shell arch
could you change "morale" to "calcium" for the duration of spooktober?
or at least one day
pretty please 
final estuary
You should hire tamiel to do modeling
tired whale
can you dress up as a skeleton and do the fortnite dance for a spooktober trailer
final estuary
Best fuckin modeler I know
thorn trout
could you change "morale" to "calcium" for the duration of spooktober?
lol
maybe next year :)
shell arch
tired whale
legit question though David, how the fuck do you go from walking sims to Dusk?
fast wigeon
cos the dude plays more games than just walking sims
tired whale
that's too simple and boring
thorn trout
it's actually not as big a taste leap as you think. I mean, there are other indie devs who have been or are waffling back and forth between FPS and walking sim. In my case there's the common element of wanting to express things through the environment and atmosphere. The difference is that with my horror walking sims I was focusing entirely on that (in some cases at the detriment of the game), while Dusk has those added layers of gameplay going on.
I've always loved slower paced exploration-focused stuff like Myst as well as retro shooters
I just like being in worlds and environments that I find interesting or evocative. Even better if I'm doing interesting stuff in them
and even BETTER if that interesting stuff is shooting :)
tired whale
god bless your tiny heart man
shell arch
^
thorn trout
:)
shell arch
would you mind if i learn few things from dusk and use them in my doom thingy?
thorn trout
I absolutely would not mind
if anyone finds stuff worth emulating in Dusk that's a huge compliment
fast wigeon
theres a lot
ive learned a lot about level design just from playing dusk over and over
thorn trout
even if you outright steal my ideas and use them in your own thing, that's cool :)
@fast wigeon really? That's super cool to hear!
shell arch
i was thinking more about how to pull off a horror atmosphere in a really fast and empowering shooter
thorn trout
yeah that's a tough one. I'm actually still surprised it works for so many people in Dusk since on paper I would have said that one would probably undermine the other.
tired whale
fuck me sideways but I feel like the darkness or d44m had sort of the right idea
where you're the thing to be afraid of
shell arch
i think it's more about... knowing the scale of the thread you're fighting against
or rather - not knowing it
like... i'm slowly getting to something i can't deal with with a simple SSG blast
tired whale
gotta keep in mind that horror's a highly subjective thing
shell arch
if that makes sense
tired whale
for instance most of jhorror at best gets me to laugh about how silly their shit is
shell arch
yeah - i'm thinking about more... Lovecraft-y stuff right now
thorn trout
my big thing is "context," so like... in E2M2 when you start and there's no music and no enemies, it's immediately unsettling because your comfort space so far has been music and enemies, and the only other time either were missing up until that point was right before a boss battle. So it's like, even though the player feels and is powerful, they're now in a place where the unspoken rules of what the game is and what its tone is have changed, so they're nervous. Then it's just a matter of building tension up to the wendigo reveal.
fast wigeon
i think the scariest level was e1m4
with the maze at the beginning where the enemies can spot you through the grates but you dont know when theyll find you
tired whale
the damage output of the ladies in the mine sure spooked me lol
fast wigeon
or the very subtle change of the corridor before the yellow key room
the most was
thorn trout
yeah I know some people don't like E1M4 but Dave and I played it again recently and I think it works pretty well for what it is.
heh I live "Don't"
it's just a dumb ol' startle scare but I think the fact that it's a huge sudden change in location instead of something jumping at your screen makes it work a little better
fast wigeon
i think its because its the least entertaining on repeat playthroughs
thorn trout
what do you think the reason is for that?
fast wigeon
when you know the scares and the dopefish thing its just sorta a box/corridor level
albeit a very nice looking one
fast wigeon
yeah
thorn trout
fair enough. Both are very claustrophobic/linear levels
fast wigeon
i think if cutty was a little more maze like and had more exploration it would have been better
clever wasp
cutty mines is hard to do on pacifist
fast wigeon
would add to the horror since you could actually get lost a little
every other level in the game tho is great, cant really think what i would change
shell arch
also - can i ask what gave you the idea to put a second experiment after the first one ?
i think it was the biggest jump scare for me
i can type, yes
thorn trout
@shell arch I just thought it was funny lol
get the player slightly annoyed by seeing an EVEN BIGGER trial and error button puzzle, then as soon as they press a button "PSYCH IT'S ANOTHER PHASE"
thorn trout
@fast wigeon well the issue there is that it's actually reeeeeally easy for players to get lost in anything that even slightly implies it's a maze. Like, I know people have gotten lost in the level as is, when everything loops back around so you can't ever get truly lost. So it's mostly supposed to give you the feeling of being in a maze without actually being in a maze, which could cause frustration for a lot of players (and 9 times out of 10 people will complain about something being too hard, not something being too easy)
fast wigeon
yeah i can see how that would have been an issue
maybe adding more secrets would have been a nice compromise
like an entire part of the mine thats hidden behind a secret door or something
would add to the exploration
thorn trout
yeah that's true
final estuary
Since you designed the levels, how is it possible to do pacifist on the dim slough
I keep getting stuck after I open the hatch
Because a leatherneck is like right there
fast wigeon
it is possible
ive done it
you just have to be really fast so that enemies dont catch up and block you
thorn trout
yeah definitely possible. We tested to make sure it's possible to get it on every level. But not easy
clever wasp
@final estuary there is a trick to it
if you open the blue hatch while crouched and just hug the right wall, the Leatherneck doesn't get aggroed for some reason
then you can pass
tired whale
oh yeah, how/why'd you come up with pacifist runs actually
thorn trout
@tired whale it's a thing in Doom/Quake also
fast wigeon
wouldnt it be impossible in doom
final estuary
Pacifism? In doom?
fast wigeon
since you need to kill the bosses to progress
final estuary
Surely you jest
tired whale
oh sure, but i am not sure they were designed with those in mind
unlike dusk to a degree
fast wigeon
his main inspiration was undertale pacifist runs
final estuary
I can usually breeze through the main portion of dim slough in under a minute it's mainly just that segment I'm running into
fast wigeon
cant wait for e3m11 to be an out of the blue meta final boss that has nothing to do with the main story
thorn trout
I've never done one in Doom personally but apparently it is possible. I assume they disregard bosses
final estuary
But ill try those suggestions when I get on
I'm trying to complete old time religion and dim slough to 100% currently
fast wigeon
pacifist old time religion is piss easy
fast wigeon
tru
final estuary
Took me forever to find the secret hay bale in e1m2 also
fast wigeon
thats one of the few secrets i had to look up
fast wigeon
should probably make it a little more obvious
rachaels secret room is easier to find tbh
shell arch
i think there's enough hints
it just made me feel dumb and stupid
which is the same thing... im not drunk i swear
final estuary
I wonder: is our duskboi just a farmer and the entirety of the foothills was once his home?
Like I imagine down on the farm could have been his house or something
final estuary
Well he obviously was kidnapped or something
He ends up in a cave about to be executed ffs
fast wigeon
he specifically came to the town of dusk looking for treasure then got captured
shell arch
according to the dusk wiki he just went there looking for a treasure or some shit
final estuary
So that explains the whole morale thing
fast wigeon
yeah
final estuary
But why go after the cult?
final estuary
Well he could have just completed the first mission then left
final estuary
Is the cult harboring something even greater that he wants?
shell arch
yes
fast wigeon
the main explanation we got rn is that some mysterious force is pushing him forwards
final estuary
SPECULATION
shell arch
Cthulhu
final estuary
Yeah
thorn trout
there's... umm, a bit of weirdness with the Dusk lore
final estuary
Scary voice dude pushes him forth
thorn trout
specifically Dave and I being on completely different pages about it for a significant portion of development
but 1.0 release will clear everything up that needs cleared up
fast wigeon
whose idea was cooler
final estuary
Yeah there are a lot of questions
thorn trout
basically consider anything not specifically in the game to be not specifically canon
YET
final estuary
Is the Escher lab not even real then
thorn trout
@fast wigeon Mine was more David-ee, Dave's ended up being more fitting to what Dusk is now
fast wigeon
makes sense
opaque spindle
That was the initial idea but don’t be expecting that to be canon
At least until the full game comes out
opaque spindle
Could’ve just been Dave saying shit
He does that from time to time
all the time
fast wigeon
bfg weapon guys
thorn trout
the treasure hunter thing was my idea, but it made more sense with original Dusk lore than current Dusk lore
shell arch
fast wigeon
are we ever gonna get to see the original lore
final estuary
So with the release of ep3 everything will be clearer
opaque spindle
Duskdude is the dad from Fingerbones seeking redemption
tired whale
trying to regain his virginity
fast wigeon
if duskdude does get a face reveal in ep3 i want a mod that has his face on the bottom of the screen
final estuary
One last thing, why does the soap one-shot everything?
I assume its like a metaphor or something
thorn trout
@fast wigeon yeah I think I've posted it here before. The thing is there's not much original lore outside the basic setup because originally there wasn't supposed to be much in the way of lore, other than what the environment implies. Was supposed to be more that misty surrealism you get playing Quake or whatever.
opaque spindle
So there is a lot more than was originally intended now?
fast wigeon
im glad it ended up having more of a proper story
tryin to figure it out has added a lot of replay value + its unique for old school fps
thorn trout
tl;dr version was that the whole game area was a cordoned off abandoned Chernobyl-like disaster area where they were researching mystical magical lovecrafty ruins things discovered underneath rural farmland, but everything went completely nuts. There was no cult or anything like that. And you're going in there because there's rumors of ancient gold + treasure still sitting around from the ruins.
but NONE OF THAT IS CANON at this point
shell arch
well - i at least got the lovercaft-y stuff right
final estuary
I like that version of the story tho
thorn trout
@opaque spindle yeah I'd just gotten off doing 4 very story-focused games so I wanted to do something that wasn't bound by a narrative, whereas Dave had gotten done doing games where there was no story and wanted to do something with proper lore, so we fundamentally disagreed for awhile about how much lore needed to be in Dusk etc. We're on the same page now though and have been doing a pass through to make sure everything is telling a consistent narrative. It's still a subtle one with a lot of room for interpretation, but it's consistent.
final estuary
It fuses lovecraftian themes with horror, sci-fi, and religion to create a good experience that's like quake's varying themes
thorn trout
@final estuary yup that was the idea :)
and it's still kind of that
just with a different context
jade root
dusk was originally going to be one giant dream sequence that a man was having after killing every single child on the planet and at the end of the game youd wake up in jail
thorn trout
god damn it Jab lol
final estuary
So why does the soap one shot enemies again
thorn trout
because I am a very impulsive game developer with a dumb sense of humor
jade root
because he used soap on the children to clean up the evidence
shell arch
well...
final estuary
I see it as a metaphor for cleansing the evil if that makes it any less ridiculous
shell arch
it's there for the same reason as the cigar, i guess
jade root
soap would let him win in real life, so it lets him win in the dream too !!!
shell arch
for shit and giggles
fast wigeon
also if ur stuck on bosses
opaque spindle
Yeah the soap is there for the memes
final estuary
You literally cleanse the evil with fucking soap
opaque spindle
Dave was telling the truth when he said there was a big weapon
ts the soapI
*Its
It was right under our noses the whole time
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S O A P
fast wigeon
Tis the Soap'l
thorn trout
@final estuary that does make it somewhat less ridiculous yeah lol
final estuary
Please tell me in episode 3 there's a secret soap based weapon
jade root
the new weapon is unlocked in the NG+ we got planned where you do every level upside but its all upside down
some levels you cant even beat !!!
thorn trout
not planned but I have no doubt that will be one of the first mods
jade root
you just fall into the void !!!!
opaque spindle
Soap launcher
final estuary
I want to hose down a goat with soap
opaque spindle
Jab why would I want to recreate my dreams
final estuary
What are those goats called again
jade root
ur dreams are the second half of SOTN?
fast wigeon
is ng+ or post game features a thing thats confirmed or is it another e3ms2
final estuary
Black Phillips right
fast wigeon
black phillips
opaque spindle
Yeah
final estuary
Just imagine spraying a black philip with soapy water and it just annihilates it
shell arch
well...
what's the point of NG+ when there's already a loadout system?
final estuary
There's already duskmare
jade root
like i said
final estuary
No real need for NG+
jade root
you do every level upside down
final estuary
I could just backflip and turn rightside up again
jade root
no like
shell arch
jade root
the level is actually flipped
final estuary
So it's mirrored
opaque spindle
Someone should make a descent mod for Dusk
Total Conversion turns it into a Descent clone
final estuary
I can't wait for dusk modding tbh
fast wigeon
guarantee you someone is going to make a level thats entirely underwater called "the descent"
final estuary
I want someone to recreate barrels of fun in dusk
opaque spindle
Taking it a bit too far there
shell arch
can't wait for all those knee deep in the dead remakes
tired whale
rip
jade root
smh typical corrupt mod business
opaque spindle
Gotta keep up my corrupt mod quota if I’m gonna beat steev
shell arch
- cough *
graceful wing
corrupt? what'd steev do this time?
shell arch
INB4 Brutal Dusk
fast wigeon
not trying hard enough if thats what ur doing
shell arch
fast wigeon
you gotta delete an image just because you dont like it
opaque spindle
I’d gladly delete bread’s shitty instagram pictures tbh
jade root
the only thing brutal about dusk is how BUTCHERED the coding is
fast wigeon
e1m2 is so fuckin brutal dude
shell arch
opaque spindle
Yeah the memory compiling code is a complete mess
shell arch
hey now
final estuary
Farm
fast wigeon
the frames cant hold the brutalitiy
shell arch
i doubt Dusk has anything close to 0.l
final estuary
The entire economy of the city of dusk is centered around soap production
Change my mind
jade root
well we dont get to see very much of dusk in the main game
but you will in DUSK:Redshift
final estuary
Fucking red shift
shell arch
so it's going to be like blue shift?
as in - the same game but from a different perspective?
final estuary
I'd actually like to play from the perspective of a soldier or cultist
neon dove
🅱usk
shell arch
Musk
slate edge
Susk
vale oar
Suks
slate edge
Bone count more like oh wait..
solar totem
Just saw the DUSKEP3 demo video that was posted a while back
Some quality funk right there
👌
vast tangle
I haven't seen it yet, I don't want to spoil things for myself too much
shell arch
there isn't much to spoil
well - depending on which demo you watch
the newest one kinda spoils a thing, while the old one just has some... jabs at skyrim
which is always fun
vale oar
too good they didn't show us e3m6-m10
vast tangle
Thew newest, I know about the "Skyrim with guns" thing xD
vale oar
no thx
crisp lion
fuk u cunt never diss the shillboi
or u shall no the meaning of tru fear from the might dave
final estuary
kill him with soap
crisp lion
HA HA YES
crisp lion
Down on the Discord
final estuary
the culty serves cooked viscera with a side of soap every tuesday
crisp lion
Cult & Cooked Viscera, together at last!
final estuary
become a freakin wizard
or a soldier
or a welder
fuck we don't care just pick one
crisp lion
fuck it, just become a fucking Wendigo lol
brittle lark
i'm trying to convince my friends to buy d u s k
jolly mirage
do what I do
tell them you can do anything you want in it
and then force them to buy the game
crisp lion
No, threaten them with Fornite despacito sans abominations
jolly mirage
nah
I only use that for torturing
but if the sausages don't work then feel free to consider it!
viral gate
i..it..ai..ain't a cult
tough shadow
too bad it is now
brittle lark
who do we worship?
jolly mirage
Lain
tough shadow
Lain
brittle lark
ok i'll wash lain's back
tough shadow
like if you agree with the above statement
tough shadow
i swear every time you say no it feels like todd is just threatening me
brittle lark
old time cult
tough shadow
Farm (edited)
jolly mirage
When they point out my typos
solar totem
Dead of cutty farm town slough's steamworks gate.
crisp lion
see that reactor tower? you can climb it!
vague egret
todd pls go
tough shadow
but he worships you
vague egret
you got skyrim copies to sell
crisp lion
dusk has the brand new, dynamic cleaning system
tough shadow
all of us worship you because we're all a part of the dusk cult
brittle lark
let's prey together
crisp lion
where u can clean, anything, and everything with the brand new unique soap dynamic objects
it just werkz
solar totem
Dusk EP2 ends with you blacking out.
You awaken with your wrists tied - you're in the back of a moving cart.
solar totem
No fork maidens allowed
jolly mirage
The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim
final estuary
don't fork the maidens
solar totem
They are a rare cuisine.
tough shadow
rip i can't even put another t because there's one unnecessary one
k let's try this again
perfect
k i'm done now
brittle lark
can we get double double-barrel shotgun
tough shadow
crisp lion
Eriance, is that you?
jolly mirage
we need a million barrel shotgun
just think of the possibilitys
and why not a triple riviter
tough shadow
my favorite part would be the fact that you can't see crap
tough shadow
are you madden or todd
make up your mind
new oc todd madden donut steel plox k thx bai
k screw it you're just both now, you're a hybrid between todd and madden
jolly mirage
yes
tough shadow
do you like skyrim todd
jolly mirage
no
tough shadow
oh so you're madden
jolly mirage
I like skyrim special edition better
tough shadow
oh okay so you're still todd
jolly mirage
yes
tough shadow
we should probably go to #bnnuy-and-the-jits now
final estuary
once the soundtrack to dusk is released, if it gets a cd release you can bet your ass i'll buy it
brittle lark
i'm done for some dusk hoodies
well the dollar is 40 pesos here so i'll have to sell one kidney
final estuary
25 bucks for a dusk t-shirt
atomic egret
I keep thinking spoopyjake is gunsmith because the profile picture looks the same as the one he used to have
molten peak
Jesus Christ. Like I get it's exciting for Switch owners, but they need to stfu, for real. Just wait for Christ's sake. It was funny at first, but it got old quick.
viral gate
Not a fan of people being super hostile as well about it
viral gate
Those people need to see sunlight
pale lichen
wait
molten peak
viral gate
With joystick controls
molten peak
They just want to tear their hair out as they try to play Ciero Miedo with analog sticks.
tired whale
I usually defend fps shit on the controller like the "artist" that i am
but fuck that with dusk tbh
molten peak
Games like CoD and Far Cry I don't mind with controllers. But games like Doom and Quake need MKB
tired whale
doom 2k16 was perfectly fine on the gamepad outside of the weapon wheel, which is a necessary concession
especially with the way it was designed
delicate violet
Switch port begging has become a real annoyance
That said, I can see Dusk working better with the gyro controls
tired whale
das just nintenyearolds doing their thing, you'll get used to it lmao
delicate violet
You use the gyro to aim instead of the stick
You'll get used to it
I was a nintenyearold from the SNES all the way to the Wii U
tired whale
wii u? more like we pee on u
delicate violet
Yeah
tired whale
cuz it was poop
delicate violet
I got it because of Bayonetta 2 and the wonderful 101
the former was a lesser game than the prequel but the later was spectacular
too bad about the frame dips
tired whale
W101 looked aite, bayo 1 made me miserable doe
tired whale
#gamings prolly a better place for us derailing shit lol
delicate violet
anyway, the point I wanted to make is that a lot of the nintendofanbase are quite rabid in demanding games for their system ever since the N64
So even when Dusk was confirmed to have a switch port a while ago, they will still demand to have it as soon as episode 3 releases on PC in 2027 or whenever is ready
More importantly, once the switch port releases, whenever that is, just wait and see how they come up with mental gymnastics to justify that the switch has the best version
mild chasm