#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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gaunt sierra
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co-op and mods right?

fast wigeon
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nono

delicate sail
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Oh yeah that

fast wigeon
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i mean unlockables for when you beat the game

delicate sail
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but also something to do after beating it

fast wigeon
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coop and mods is post-launch

vale oar
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SOMETHING that should happen after u complete the game

gaunt sierra
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ah, right

delicate sail
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comes with the SDK

fast wigeon
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dave said that u can fly in one level

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so maybe thats one of the things you unlock to use in older levels

delicate sail
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But Dave also said something like "it will make you WANNA play the game all over again"

gaunt sierra
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well, you can technically still fly, if you use cheats πŸ˜„

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so I think it'll be something different

fast wigeon
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ye i think he might be talking about the story with that one

vale oar
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OH HI DAVE

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How're ya doin

gaunt sierra
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anyway, how's your sex life?

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πŸ˜„

delicate sail
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We might've mentioned his name too often

vale oar
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The Room references

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god bless ya dude

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and yeah

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the final boss track is ready

gaunt sierra
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I already see some mods changing the voices when wendigo appears to "OH HI MARK" :DDD

vale oar
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lol

delicate sail
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Oh damn

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I'm curious as to how progress on the comic is going as well. Haven't heard anything on that front for a while and the guy making it has been awfully quiet on twitter lately

vale oar
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fuck

fast wigeon
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last i heard it was almost done

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and that was a while ago

vale oar
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SOONβ„’

fast wigeon
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its probably finished

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im guessin the soundtrack is done too

gaunt sierra
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oh, the comic, never read it, what's it about?

clever wasp
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and it's in the trash can currently since Duskdude might not be a treasure hunter after all

gaunt sierra
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oh, so it's not official comic then πŸ˜„

fast wigeon
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the comic isnt out yet

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no its official

clever wasp
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its official

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it's just not canon

fast wigeon
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not necessarily canon

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although that might change

vale oar
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CANCELLED

gaunt sierra
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well if it is official then it should be cannon

delicate sail
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Yeah, they've been changing their stance on whether or not it might be be canon , probably cuz things just change while things shape

fast wigeon
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we'll see if its canon when ep3 comes out

delicate sail
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In the end we'll probably just have to wait and see. Would be sweet if it was though

fast wigeon
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cos duskdudes identity is gonna get revealed in it apparantly

gaunt sierra
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yeah, it might make some plot twist

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something like you are the demon that cult summoned and they were trying to stop you the whole time

fast wigeon
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also someone remind me to ask 500 about how to get to the super secret cut content menu when ep3 drops

gaunt sierra
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there will be something like that? nice

fast wigeon
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there is something like that

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right now

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hidden in the game

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but noones found it

gaunt sierra
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hope there won't be too much cut content, as it always make me feel a bit sad when I see something amazing being cut from the game

fast wigeon
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i accessed the cut content by messin around with the game files and its nothing to be upset over, trust me

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only noteworthy things were 2 endless maps that were in the alpha of the game

gaunt sierra
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so nothing like literally every boss being cut from Half LIfe 2? πŸ˜„

delicate sail
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Yeah, DuskDude's identity having at least some sort of relevance was hinted by Jab in the Steam forums already "Prolly no slider for gender like strafe had because of reasons that will be revealed SOON"

fast wigeon
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u can play the levels rn if you want

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just rename the map files in DUSK_data

opaque spindle
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yeah don't post stuff like that

gaunt sierra
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I remember that Dave almost told us in the first look at e3

fast wigeon
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o how come

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does it count as ripping game assets or smth

gaunt sierra
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but then he decided to keep it secret till' the release of ep3

opaque spindle
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yep

fast wigeon
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huh, theres no assets though its just a list of what the levels correspond to

vale oar
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what if people start diggin that shit and unlock E3MS2

fast wigeon
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heck

delicate sail
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You can also just play one of the pre pre pre... alpha endless maps by accessing the alpha in the game folder, without the nifty updates to everything else we got so far of course

fast wigeon
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yea in the goodies folder

vale oar
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E3 Demo as well

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NOT EP3

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but E3

fast wigeon
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that made a coupla people disappointed

gaunt sierra
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oh, interesting

fast wigeon
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they thought they found ep3 early

delicate sail
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Playing that one really made me realize how far DUSK has gotten over time

vale oar
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yeah lol

delicate sail
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The soldiers are fucking scary

gaunt sierra
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yeah, you can already see a tons of progress between each episode

fast wigeon
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oh also

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you can play super super super pre alpha versions of the game

vale oar
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David is one of that kind of developers that make EACH new content better then the prev one

fast wigeon
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they arent in the goodies folder tho

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zombie posted the download links a while ago

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lemme find em

gaunt sierra
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makes you wonder what could have been seen in potentional EP4 πŸ˜„

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because ep3 already looks godlike

delicate sail
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Yeah, David just recently said as well that this is one of the core goals, to one-up every episode with the consecutive one

vale oar
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I'm gonna play E3M4 in my toilet room for sure

delicate sail
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That's the psychological horror one, right?

vale oar
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yup

fast wigeon
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what about e4m3

vale oar
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cancelled

fast wigeon
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aight

vale oar
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as well as e3m4

gaunt sierra
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and so on

vale oar
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SO ONβ„’

gaunt sierra
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e3 will only have 3 levels

vale oar
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3 secret levels πŸ€”

fast wigeon
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i hope if david does do an ep4 that it has like a gothic/fantasy aesthetic

gaunt sierra
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which you won't be able to reach, cause any level that can gave you access to those is cancelled

vale oar
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Yup

gaunt sierra
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well, it's basically ep3

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with it's cathedrals

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but I think if something official still comes after ep3, it'll be some map packs

vale oar
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Catherdrals+Tentacles

fast wigeon
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na im thinkin more like ancient gothic castles and old family mansions

gaunt sierra
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like in good ol' quake

fast wigeon
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which isnt really ep 3

clever wasp
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at least the first half of ep3

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if you want that kind of gothness... there's Amid Evil tho

delicate sail
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Or good ol' Blood

fast wigeon
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yea

vale oar
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oh Bad you're da Leatherfuck now

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congratz

clever wasp
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thanks

gaunt sierra
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redneck

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πŸ˜„

vale oar
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yeah

fast wigeon
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someday theres gonna be too many big johns

vale oar
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YAHAHA

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BIG JAHN

delicate sail
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Ep4 could also be a AE crossover... Just an infernal machine's portal leading to AE's map hub

fast wigeon
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that would be neat as like a mappack

gaunt sierra
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or at least some easter egg like in new DOOM

fast wigeon
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not a proper episode 4 tho

clever wasp
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I'd love easter eggs referencing both games

fast wigeon
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playing dusk levels in AE and vice versa

clever wasp
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like maybe a scythe in AE or the axe of the black labyrinth as a prop in a Dusk level

delicate sail
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There are already messages promoting DUSK in AE

fast wigeon
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ye in e3m1

vale oar
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It's Dave

clever wasp
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I honestly have found like 10% of all writings in AE

fast wigeon
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i found that easter egg before i found the actual way to progress in that level

clever wasp
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haven't bothered to look for them

gaunt sierra
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I actually found most of those

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because I was progressing through all the levels very slowly, taking my time, so I wouldn't finish it too fast

clever wasp
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AE secrets are generally much less straightforward than those of Dusk

fast wigeon
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na

gaunt sierra
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and even though AE is not primarily lore-based, I think it's a pretty nice addition to get to know a little details about the world you are currently in

fast wigeon
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ae secrets are either too obscure with no hints or amazingly obvious

gaunt sierra
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I think AE's secrets are easier to find

fast wigeon
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like 90% of the secrets in AE are just items in hard to reach areas in the main level

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it could do with more actual secret rooms with enemies n stuff

gaunt sierra
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on the contrary I found almost zero secrets in DUSK

fast wigeon
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really?

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huh

gaunt sierra
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you need to break walls and stuff in order to find those

fast wigeon
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dusk ones are mostly hidden doors/breakable walls

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which i prefer personally

gaunt sierra
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and there are also those secret buttons that are opening something on the other end of the level.. πŸ˜„

delicate sail
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Some of the secret areas in DUSK play with your expectations quite a bit, at least that's how I felt

clever wasp
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see that's the thing, some of the more obvious AE secrets aren't secrets at all

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or rather, they don't look like they'd be

delicate sail
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Yeah...

fast wigeon
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theres a secret in AE e1m3 thats literally just an ammo pickup under a stairwell

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also the cave secrets in e1m1 are bullshit

clever wasp
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there's one like that in every boss level except E1

delicate sail
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Not the majority, but definitely a few

fast wigeon
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i dont even mean a blocked off stairwell that you need to open or smth, its just some stairs and theres some ammo underneath

flat juniper
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If there's ever an Episode 4, I literally just want it to be everyone but David making it with varying quality and difficulty, so we can have a true Thy John Consumed experience

gaunt sierra
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and the secret in E1M2 where you only need to get through the hole in the iron bars that is pretty obvious

fast wigeon
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o yea

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the one with the elevator into the sewers

delicate sail
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But DUSK has it's smaller, but still existent share of those as well

fast wigeon
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AE needs more secrets like that tbh

gaunt sierra
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true

clever wasp
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to be fair the best secrets so far are in [Game I am not allowed to talk about probably]

fast wigeon
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sharpshooter?

clever wasp
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Ion Maiden

fast wigeon
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oh

flat juniper
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AE just has that "hidden mega health in corner behind you that you probably didn't see" style

fast wigeon
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yea

gaunt sierra
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I plan to buy Ion Maiden, but only in it's full release

fast wigeon
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or "random wall thats a door with no hints" like in e2m2

clever wasp
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it got delayed btw

gaunt sierra
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I'm not giving my 20€ for half an hour long preview campaign

fast wigeon
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also fucking AE has a secret in e2m2 that you only have one chance to get, otherwise you have to restart

gaunt sierra
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yeah, it's coming out in the january next year

fast wigeon
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i spent ages searching for the last secret before i realised that

delicate sail
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Some of the ones in Ion Maiden are really cool and imaginative. I know this is a... controversial complaint but... there were just too many secrets in the Ion Maiden preview campaign for me to care...

clever wasp
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true

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definitely true

fast wigeon
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i dont think u can have too many secrets

clever wasp
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trust me, you can

fast wigeon
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too many good secrets anyway

clever wasp
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the first level alone has more secrets than like half of E1 combined

gaunt sierra
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they are trying to reimagine the old school feeling

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games those days had a lot of secrets as well

clever wasp
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they have it down pat to be fair

fast wigeon
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not as many as ion maiden

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quake levels had about 3 secrets on average

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which is a shame because quake has some of the best secrets ive seen since thief 2

flat juniper
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Plus you are forgetting that Ion Maiden has super large levels due to some weird portal tricks they are using

fast wigeon
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dusk gets secrets perfect with number and quality i think

delicate sail
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Yeah, none of the Build engine games I've played have so many secrets

flat juniper
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If a level has 10 secrets, and Ion Maiden's level is what would be 2 levels in size, it's really not that much

delicate sail
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But you know, it's great quality content so... why am I even complaining?

gaunt sierra
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but in terms of types of enemies and a weapon count, I think Ion Maiden is a bit luckluster in it's current state

clever wasp
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it's an alpha, I expect the full release to amp it up several notches

fast wigeon
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idk why they decided to make it in the build engine, instead of making it from the ground up and removing the limitations

clever wasp
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like, I was fucking sold on IM when I played it, and I want to believe it can only get better with time

fast wigeon
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also any second now the mods are going to kill this convo with one fell #gami_g

delicate sail
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I don't worry too much about the weapons. Enemy variety on the other hand... I'm curious

gaunt sierra
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well I said in it's current state

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I think they'll surely add some more weapons and enemy types in full version

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which will contain like 8 different worlds if I recall correctly?

flat juniper
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The current weapons they have though are so fucking good feeling though

clever wasp
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^

fast wigeon
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i would play ion maiden but i dont really like the build engine shooters

flat juniper
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and the enemies are very responsive

fast wigeon
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because i fucking hate hitscanners

clever wasp
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like literally, it's Build, but supercharged

fast wigeon
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and build engine is full of them

delicate sail
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I refunded IM cuz of the lack of content and got SGS instead

flat juniper
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bad decision

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bad game

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xD

gaunt sierra
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I will definitely buy it, but as I said I am not gonna pay 20€ for 30 minutes long preview campaign

flat juniper
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never buy a New Blood game

clever wasp
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also I kind of want to test Apocryph at some point

gaunt sierra
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Apocryph? that game is utter trash honestly

delicate sail
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I'm still hyped for Tonight We Riot

gaunt sierra
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you have like 20 types of enemies in only first two levels, but each of them is behaving exactly the same

flat juniper
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TWR is cancle

fast wigeon
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lads cant wait for Lazer Type

gaunt sierra
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and the whole game is full of bugs

clever wasp
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which I'd expect from an alpha honestly

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I played KSP and Besiege, I can give a lot of passes on bugs

flat juniper
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I can hear the mods gritting their teeth, waiting for the ultimate moment to pull a #gami_g

delicate sail
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I've been following Apocryph for a while but I just don't see the devs following through to give it the polish it'd need to live up to expectations

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DUSK is so much better in conveying the classic FPS feeling

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HA

gaunt sierra
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the level design itself is very bad

delicate sail
fast wigeon
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agreed. dusk sucks

gaunt sierra
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enemies are badly designed

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and honestly some bug polish won't make that game better

fast wigeon
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u listening david?

gaunt sierra
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even some of the weapons are poorly balanced

fast wigeon
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ur game stinks

flat juniper
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yeah Dusk sucks

fast wigeon
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the Gamers have spoken

flat juniper
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TheSpawn is the leader of truth, he spoke out when we could not

gaunt sierra
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something that is cancelled cannot suck

delicate sail
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DUSK is cancelled so...

flat juniper
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Just stop polishing DUSK

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it's over

gaunt sierra
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@flat juniper I was talking about Apocryph tho 😦

flat juniper
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release episode 3 now

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But who are they going to believe

gaunt sierra
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that's what I get when I don't check what others write before me when I am writing my message πŸ˜„

flat juniper
fast wigeon
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#antiduskcirclejerk

flat juniper
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r/DUSKjerk

gaunt sierra
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if both of those games are trash, then DUSK is royal trash πŸ˜„

flat juniper
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"DAE THIS GAME THE BEST EVER???"

fast wigeon
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i fucking hate it so much i have 102 hours on it just so i can confirm how much i hate it

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"DAE AE bad????"

clever wasp
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what

gaunt sierra
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yeah, sue them for not being to able to refund after those 102 hours

clever wasp
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who called me

flat juniper
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No, it's more like:
"I spent 100 hours creating my opinion on this game, observing every detail, beating it on every difficulty 3 times, and I hated every minute"

fast wigeon
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i mean sometimes it can take that long for you to realise you dont like it

delicate sail
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Sounds like every Fallout 3/4 review

gaunt sierra
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but you'll keep those details for yourself

fast wigeon
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GTA V was like that for me 100%

gaunt sierra
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and you'll only leave a review that the game sucks

clever wasp
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it took me 3300 hours to realize TF2 is shit

crimson folio
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Mods fix games

flat juniper
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@delicate sail That's what I was going for, though I forgot where I heard it (it was Fallout 4)

fast wigeon
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once i beat the campaign and started messing around in the open world i slowly realised it was kinda poop

gaunt sierra
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new Monster Hunter has the same reviews

fast wigeon
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atleast the sandbox aspect was

gaunt sierra
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I stopped after I discovered, that the campaign only has two acts, and I am like two missions away from the story conclusion, even though I was doing like every side quest I came upon and tried my best to avoid story missions

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Fallout 4 is ridiculously short in terms of story really

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and in other aspects, it's mostly just resking of Fallout 3 anyway

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*reskin

crystal vessel
opaque spindle
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Dammit Am

fast wigeon
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there we go

opaque spindle
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I was gonna do that

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stealing my thunder

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I wanted to cleverly work it into the conversation

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I've been foiled..

crimson folio
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So have Cd procekt red buy the fallout iP?

crystal vessel
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haha get destroyed

flat juniper
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oh shit I was right, they were waiting for an epic moment

gaunt sierra
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hero landing into the conversation

vale oar
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Wonder whether those blue screenshots are from Blasphemy as well (open the link to see them) πŸ€”

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and this

fast wigeon
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my guess is e3m4 or e3m6 for that

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not so much m4 actually

vale oar
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somebody said "you've seen E3MS on #screenshotofthesaturday"

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sooooooooooooo

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πŸ€”

fast wigeon
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huh

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we better look thru all the screenshots then

vale oar
fast wigeon
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mayb

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how is that even going to work in gameplay

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i mean it looks cool visually but it looks like it would be kinda annoying to actually play if there were enemies

clever wasp
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maybe it's just a setpiece

fast wigeon
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also looks like it would be tedious on repeat playthroughs maybe

clever wasp
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like the antichamber to a boss fight

fast wigeon
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maybe

vale oar
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I guess we're gonna meet flying dudes while going down\up that stairway

fast wigeon
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yee

clever wasp
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I'm willing to bet that this is a downwards staircase, at least as far as the level flow would go

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like

fast wigeon
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ye going up would be kinda bad

clever wasp
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it has a hole in the middle, means David probably intends for us to fall in it rather than take the scenic route

fast wigeon
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that could be the level where you get to fly too

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so you fly up the room, meanwhile enemies are attacking you from the stairs

vale oar
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Ye

fast wigeon
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oo i think u can see a powerup at the bottom

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it could actually be a flying powerup or atleast a climbing one

vale oar
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HOLD SHIFT

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πŸ˜‰

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I still remember people got confused by the Climbing bonus after e2 release

jade root
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It drives me crazy that some of the stuff you are saying is 100% accurate and some of the stuff is completely inaccurate

vale oar
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Okay I got it

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It's E3MS2

jade root
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50% accurate

vale oar
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E3MS

jade root
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0% accurate

fast wigeon
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hes obvs not going to confirm that

vale oar
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screw ya then

jade root
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100% accurate

vale oar
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mkay

jade root
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100% accurate

vale oar
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oof

gaunt sierra
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flying power up it is then πŸ˜„

vale oar
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Dusk is Amid Evil

gaunt sierra
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flying power-up is definitely a connection

fast wigeon
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flying might be a level specific thing instead of a powerup actually

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since it would make the climbing powerup kind of pointless

vale oar
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I guess the flying map is E3MS

gaunt sierra
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nah, I don't think they would put up something like this in secret level

acoustic oriole
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waiting is more fun than guessing

vale oar
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^

fast wigeon
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na guessing is more fun

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its fun to speculate

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while ur waiting

gaunt sierra
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if they made the effort to build a level around this mechanic, I think they would want everyone to play it, not only those people who are looking for every secret

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wait is too long not to be guessing πŸ˜„

vale oar
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shhhh David's here

thorn trout
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E3MS will be a level a lot of people talk about

vale oar
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πŸ€”

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NO JAB

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PLS NO

jade root
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itll be more talked about than e4 of doom

fair mirage
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yes jab pls yes

jade root
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"remember how shitty e3ms was"

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"e3ms2 tho"

fast wigeon
gaunt sierra
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and e3ms3 is cancelled then? 😦

fast wigeon
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you heard it here folks

acoustic oriole
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too much speculations leads to expectations which can be a downer sometimes when you actually get to playing

clever wasp
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half of us unironically expect E3MS2 thanks to Jab now

gaunt sierra
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I had many expectations when diving into episode 2 for the first time and was pleasantly surprised neverthless πŸ˜„

fast wigeon
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im not going to be surprised if e3ms2 isnt real but im looking for it anyway

jade root
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its very real

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good luck finding it tho

fast wigeon
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im fully expecting it to be a joke level if it is real

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cos u wouldnt hide a real level this well

jade root
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theres a reason its not an achievement

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im curious who will be the first person to access it without using cheats

vale oar
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coolstoryjab

jade root
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youll think it cool when you find it too

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youll prolly shop it tho

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smh

fast wigeon
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im gonna guess its a doom 2 style secret level

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except with nb memes

acoustic oriole
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but...

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what if there's an ESM1?

gaunt sierra
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hope it won't be that hard to find like the last official secret of DOOM 2 πŸ˜„

jade root
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but

fast wigeon
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that last official secret had been known about for years

jade root
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it was already found

fast wigeon
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its just no one knew how to trigger it properly without cheats

jade root
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^

clever wasp
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okay so let's hope it's not the fuckin EJB menu then

fast wigeon
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and romero passed it off as being intentional on his twitter even tho it was clearly a bug

clever wasp
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doubt it

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Romero, for all the flak he gets, is one fucking bastard when it comes to secrets

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I definitely wouldn't put it past him to have intended this all the time

fast wigeon
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it wasnt like a hidden room that you needed to noclip to or smth

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it was literally just a hidden teleporter but the trigger for the secret didnt work like it was supposed to

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and honestly i would expect peterson to pull a trick like that more

vale oar
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transparency = fucked up AGAIN

fair mirage
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you = blew it

vale oar
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πŸ€”

fast wigeon
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when someone denies the existence of e3ms2

crimson folio
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new emote.

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now.

vale oar
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yeah plz

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CheeseThinkingJab

fair mirage
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too faint

fast wigeon
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ye ik, program im on doesnt really let me do it any better than that

fair mirage
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and iirc we're full up on emotes anyqays

delicate sail
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So do I understand it correctly that the M1-9 crit pass includes E3MS?

fast wigeon
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yes

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e3ms has been finished for a while

crimson folio
#

the invisible enemies BIGJOHN love em

fast wigeon
#

wendigos

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or as dave calls them "wen dingos"

crimson folio
#

I better see cthulhu in episode 3

fast wigeon
#

u might

crimson folio
#

50/50 ?

#

or 1/100 ?

fast wigeon
#

idk i aint a dev

delicate sail
#

I mean there's gotta be some crazy reveal in the end, very likely having to do with Duskdude's identity anbd some sort of ancient evil

fast wigeon
#

its based on lovecraft tho so cthulu is possible

crimson folio
#

love the cult and monsters idea

#

just hoping we fight monsters in their dimention or something

#

now that is gonna be rad

delicate sail
#

I'm super curious what that forest screenshot is all about

fair mirage
#

maybe duskdude is cthulhu setting his followers straight

crimson folio
#

I think dusk dude is dusk gal

#

hell by all means Id follow a dual lever action welding motherfucker into hell

#

Dude i just heard the final boss theme made by andrew hulshult its pretty metal \m/

#

man dispite me being human scum I feel like modding again

delicate sail
#

Yeah, Duskdude is the cult leader and the cult is his following gone rogue to serve the military in some dig

crimson folio
#

BIGJOHN man I am gonna make fallout new vegas great again

#

oh right this is the dusk one

delicate sail
#

But they never knew what they were in for...

crimson folio
#

as long as it aint a huge dildo I am fine by all means

delicate sail
#

Yeah, I was just following the trolling of drek. Honestly, I'm just excited to see what essentially David (and Dave) came up with

fair mirage
#

eh wasn't trolling too hard, it'd be interesting to have some crazy out-of-nowhere twist like that

delicate sail
#

Are all of you in the loop of the story btw?

fast wigeon
#

im fine with super bizarre twists as long as theyre foreshadowed

delicate sail
#

Yeah, not just something feeling lazy and convenient on the narrative side of things

#

But I don't expect them doing that

fair mirage
#

I haven't heard dick about ep3, but even if I did I prolly wouldn't lead anyone on

opaque spindle
#

Yeah idk anything about ep3 either

fair mirage
#

haven't even looked at any public vids on iy

#

*it

opaque spindle
#

same

delicate sail
#

Heh

#

Maybe it will turn into a dating sim and Dave foreshadowed it in the streams all along

#

That's why they needed NB-chan

radiant venture
#

I imagine it being isometric view

delicate sail
#

It all makes sense now

delicate violet
#

Episode 3 will actually be a highschool musical movie

vale oar
#

Ep3 is a visual novel

crisp lion
#

EP3 is just an advertisement campaign for the next Texas Chainsaw Massacre that's getting out of hand.

opaque spindle
#

nah EP3 is an ad

#

but its just an ad for coca-cola

crisp lion
#

no, stop, ruined.

opaque spindle
#

its the truth

crisp lion
#

Reb you're like a 60-yo person trying to meme.

#

so stop it

#

bad mod!

#

go watch your anime somewhere else

opaque spindle
vague egret
crisp lion
#

No Thanos-Avain no!

slate edge
#

this is going in my cring collection

crisp lion
#

[Shrek with camera intensifies]

slate edge
crisp lion
#

haha yes

opaque spindle
#

This is good Dusk my dudes

vale oar
#

Okay Shrek is the final boss

slate edge
#

I like the part in E3MS2 where this happens

#

Its not off topic if E3MS2 is a meme BIGJOHN

vale oar
#

E3MS2 is off topic

#

E3MS3 is not.

delicate violet
#

EP3 is an ad for the next shrek movie

vale oar
#

Dusk channel is silent...

graceful wing
#

Good

vale oar
mild chasm
#

That's because it's dawn

#

Wait until dusk, duh

vale oar
#

fair

robust cedar
#

Episode 3 was going to be real time strategy but instead got changed to a freemium real time tactics games for iPhones

vale oar
#

fuck

mild chasm
#

Discord didn't embed the steam page for dusk for shill

#

it's betrayed shill

clever wasp
#

shill will fall

#

soon(tm)

vale oar
#

@hollow ivy Yeah your service is no longer needed here without Steam pages. Get the hell outta here.

mild chasm
#

I'm on shill's side here

#

Discord is a traitor

vale oar
#

Discord did the right thing

#

Shill needs to be cast down

vast tangle
#

Shill is just a ploy to distract us from Ep 3's impending cancellation, I'm sure

graceful wing
#

Impending? What are you talking about?

slate edge
#

Susk cancel since 2017

mild chasm
#

Cancel since like 2016, eat pant

vale oar
#

Cancel since David's birth

#

the first David's word was "CANCELLED!!!!11"

slate edge
#

E3MS2 is real btw

vale oar
#

sur

#

e*

vast tangle
#

In our hearts, at least

delicate sail
#

Mod it inβ„’

crisp lion
#

Mod Episode 3 inβ„’

delicate sail
acoustic oriole
#

mod ESM1 in

vale oar
#

The Foothills
The Facilities
The Nameless City
The Memesode

delicate sail
#

We've already talked about franchise crossovers, so what about DUSK in space? Unfortunate Duskdudes?

graceful wing
#

There's no dusk in space

#

Idea: denied

delicate sail
#

Depends on where you are. Being on the moon during a lunar eclipse and looking at the earth is technically the ultimate dusk/dawn

graceful wing
#

Oof

#

!cuffme

vale oar
#

Oof (x2)

delicate sail
#

😏

mild chasm
#

By Dusk We Riot?

robust cedar
#

Super Dusk Squadron

vale oar
#

At Dusk We Riot

delicate sail
#

Lazer Dusk

robust cedar
#

wait for it...

#

wait

#

Amid Dusk

vale oar
#

Unfortunate Duskdudes

mild chasm
#

Dusk Dusk

#

The ultimate crossover

slate edge
#

Ep4 is thy memes consumed.

#

Ep3 is xen but red

delicate sail
#

Talking about Ep3, the resemblance between the cathedral and Ep2's skylab is uncanny, I think Viscont pointed it out before

#

Is this considered a spoiler btw, as it was only featured in the PAX stream? If so, pls remove.

mild chasm
#

Like every xen but kinda red

vast tangle
#

In Space, no one can hear you "HUP"

fast wigeon
vale oar
#

HOLY JESUS

#

FUCK

fast wigeon
#

this was supposed to be a funny xd nostaliga critic shitpost but it ended up looking scarier than the real horrors

vale oar
#

@fast wigeon FUCK

vast tangle
#

Dude, that is unsettling

vale oar
#

Do you realize someone's gonna mod THAT in???

fast wigeon
#

i dont think anyone would want to put that in the game

#

seriously why the fuck does it look scarier than the actual enemies

#

it shouldnt

#

its the nostalgia critic

mild chasm
#

It's probably because of the distortion of an actual person's face

fast wigeon
#

prolly

mild chasm
#

you can see the individual teeth and all

#

every detail

#

and then the expression of his face is just kind of a bit more horrifying with the recoloring of the lighting

#

it makes his eyes look a little more dead

fast wigeon
#

wait im gonna try and remove the glasses and hat and make it look like a legit photorealistic horror

vast tangle
#

That's called the "uncanny valley" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

In aesthetics, the uncanny valley is a hypothesized relationship between the degree of an object's resemblance to a human being and the emotional response to such an object. The concept of the uncanny valley suggests humanoid objects which appear almost, but not exactly, like...

mild chasm
#

Well yeah in general terms

#

but I was more explaining the details

fast wigeon
#

i just spent 10 minutes of my evening clicking on the nostalgia critics face with a brush

mild chasm
#

Congratulations, you've made the worst thing in the entire history of the human race's existence

fast wigeon
#

thanks!!!

clever wasp
#

it's not that bad, I mean it's not Fortnite

#

that said

#

what the actual fuck is this

#

you already modding some monsters in ?

fast wigeon
#

doug walker photoshopped onto a horror innit

clever wasp
#

tf, why

fast wigeon
#

why not

clever wasp
#

okay so let's establish one thing

mild chasm
#

If this isn't a mod when the game and DAWN is released I will eat pant

clever wasp
#

"because I can" is not automatically a valid reason

fast wigeon
#

cos i saw that one shitpost where the NC has a really long mouth and it reminded me of the horrors

mild chasm
#

Life is a nightmare

#

I think that would be a great thing to pin, personally

fast wigeon
#

they aint gonna pin cos of davids update

mild ginkgo
#

we're also not going to pin spoilers

vale oar
#

I guess everyone's already aware of the Horrors tbh:)

fast wigeon
#

pretty sure people posted them here when they were first revealed anyway

mild ginkgo
#

and then they were deleted

#

ep3 is almost out

#

lets see if we can hold it in

vale oar
#

If u have Dave in ur dev team

#

you can't hold anything in

mild ginkgo
#

yeah but you guys arent dave

delicate sail
#

You guys happy with how the boss is coming along so far?

mild ginkgo
#

not gonna get us that easily lol

vale oar
#

"ep3 is almost out"

#

duuuudeee

delicate sail
#

It'S rather a question about the process than anything else

mild ginkgo
#

and its a question that will go unanswered for now :P

fast wigeon
#

i mean u coulda just said yes or no

#

that gives away nothing

delicate sail
#

I wasn't going for info about a release date or potential spoilers. But that's fair tothetop

clever wasp
#

lemme try asking another way

mild ginkgo
#

it gives away more than im willing to give away

clever wasp
#

500.isBossGud() ?

vale oar
#

there's no final boss in Dusk. After you complete E3M10 Dave's mug appears and yells like: U WANNA SEE THE FINAL BOSS? NOW GO PAY another $20!

mild ginkgo
prisma ivy
#

void

vale oar
#

500 is covering it up

clever wasp
#

who the fuck makes methods private goddamnit

graceful wing
#

Me

mild ginkgo
#

theres more to the equation than meets the eye

vale oar
#

okay

#

i'll put it this way:

#

Is there ANY KIND OF the final boss in DUSK?

fast wigeon
#

no

vale oar
#

I thought so

#

Just tell us there's no final boss in ep3 Scott

#

and then it's done

mild ginkgo
#

yes ofc there is

#

ya dingus

fast wigeon
#

i smell a cover up

graceful wing
#

Which one?

mild ginkgo
#

yeah i mean yes theres a cover up

#

im covering the details of the final boss

fast wigeon
#

hot leaks

#

quick before mods delete

vale oar
#

final boss is DuskDude

#

mirrored

#

or shit

mild ginkgo
#

think the thoughts that make you happiest

vale oar
#

:C

fast wigeon
#

that could still be in the game as like a lead up to the final boss

#

but its probably not

clever wasp
#

Shadow Duskdude

mild ginkgo
vale oar
#

What about Nero tho

clever wasp
#

and Bayonetta whoever the hell that chick in the DMC5 trailer is

#

forgot her name

graceful wing
#

Nero is baby

vale oar
#

no u're baby

#

πŸ˜›

crimson folio
#

✌ πŸ‘Ά ✌

vale oar
#

baby is the final boss of susk

crimson folio
#

Susk V when ?

vale oar
#

cancelled

slate edge
#

Susk V: The phantom John

crimson folio
delicate violet
#

My little DUSK can't be this cute when

vale oar
#

Ur little dusk is in ur pants

#

: D

slate edge
#

E3M6 hype tbh

vale oar
#

Ep3 hype in general lmao

slate edge
#

^^

vale oar
#

nanosuit in DUSK CONFIRMED

slate edge
#

Dusk ep3 is actually Crysis but only the aliens

vale oar
#

ye

mild chasm
#

Dusk is going to get a sick upgrade where it's entirely rebuilt from the ground up within CryEngine

#

it's gonna have blown out bloom

#

it's gonna have RTX, it's gonna be the best

steady aurora
#

I mean it's prob true since Ep 3 has a bunch of water, conveniently whilst David was playing Subnautica

crimson folio
#

Keep Lust for Darkness away from Dave

crisp lion
#

keep everything away from David

crimson folio
#

That old cthulhu game would be nice for him

#

Dusk +Huniepop = Romance the sexiest cultist or the thickest chainsaw bagneck

opal plover
#

Anyway cheevo idea

#

hyperaccumulated kinetic energy

#

For telefragging the guardian

atomic egret
#

Pretty sure telefrag the guardian is one on the shortlist

opal plover
#

Yeah

#

But that was more for the name

crimson folio
#

i feel likke all the cheevos

#

gonna cancell Susk for 1 or 2 more weeks

opal plover
#

This is Dusk we're talking about though

#

It was cancelled even before developpement began

crimson folio
#

Wohh you mean the project codenamed Arse Fatalitys 2β„’ ?

delicate violet
#

You mean

#

Arse Fartalis

crimson folio
#

something like that ye idk

opal plover
#

Anyway green shard for breaking the crystal of madness when

#

And multicolored ones for the E1M3 windows

opal plover
#

Other cheevo idea:

#

Sweet, Sweet ironic revenge

#

Kill the final boss by slashing him in the back with sickles

tired whale
#

what we need 4 achievements

#

is sexual innuendos

opal plover
#

Listening to this Dave?

mild ginkgo
#

but maybe the crystal itself isnt green

#

and its just filled with green gas

#

so the non colored shards make sense

opal plover
#

Yeah except uhh no

#

What about the church windows though

mild ginkgo
#

what do you mean uhhh no

#

i feel like you just got showed up tbh

opal plover
#

Well uhhh

#

No u

mild ginkgo
#

youve got us on the stained glass though

#

ill concede that

opal plover
#

At least E3M5 has the stained glass problem fixed

#

And the particles for smashing plates looks kinda weird?

mild ginkgo
#

e3m5 does not

#

the windows are yellow only

opal plover
#

Yeah that's what I meant

mild ginkgo
#

if only you could see the REAL skybox for that level

opal plover
#

What is the skybox just stained glass windows?

mild ginkgo
#

damn you nailed it

opal plover
#

Also that would mean an Ep 3 map with a non single color skybox

#

Unheard of as of yet

mild ginkgo
#

nah thats incorrect

opal plover
#

I mean Ep 3 better have some creative skyboxes

mild ginkgo
#

maybe, who knows

graceful wing
#

nah they're just random .jpg's from davids meme folder

viral gate
#

Don't need skyboxes when there is no sky

#

:sip:

opal plover
#

I'll take that as a yes 500

mild ginkgo
#

hey, think the thoughts that make you happiest

#

thats what i always say

opal plover
#

I think of dusk being cancelled then

mild ginkgo
#

but if dusk is cancelled

#

youll never get to see

opal plover
#

Never wanted to see Jab's first custom level anyway

mild ginkgo
#

or my favorite level in the game

opal plover
#

Anyway how easy would it have been to create those files just for the meme

graceful wing
#

quite

#

but those are both real

#

especially the first one B1

opal plover
#

If E3MS2 isn't actually in the game I'll blame Jab for bad PR

#

Like unironically

#

And both of you too

graceful wing
#

i mean jab gets in trouble with dave on a regular basis

prisma halo
#

😏

mild ginkgo
#

like i said

#

think the thoughts that make you happiest

#

let your dreams teleport you to a faraway place

clever wasp
#

interesting

opal plover
#

Jesus christ is E3MS2 actually the framerate test

viral gate
#

?!

mild ginkgo
#

framerate?

opal plover
#

That's like the worst possible shitpost

mild ginkgo
#

the fuck you smoking

opal plover
#

The framerate test build

mild ginkgo
#

nah

viral gate
#

clearly hasn't been drinking enough monster zero ultra energy drink

mild ginkgo
#

the ultimate dusk level

prisma halo
#

the best

#

proof dusk is just minecraft

opal plover
#

Anyway look at the builds Zombie posted and you'll see the framerate test build

mild ginkgo
#

not quite my dude

graceful wing
#

lamerate test build

mild ginkgo
#

close

graceful wing
#

it's lame alright

mild ginkgo
#

but not quite

#

also here, a real leak

#

this is from unseen dusk content

opal plover
#

Wow

#

It's like bone

clever wasp
#

it's not even aligned reeeeeee

opal plover
#

Probably like from the final boss texture tbh

mild ginkgo
#

the biggest secret in dusk

clever wasp
#

it's humble debuts as Guy With a Makarov

opal plover
#

This mickey mouse bullshit is gwetting out of hand

clever wasp
#

on that note, not being a gun person, why a Makarov specifically ?

mild ginkgo
#

no THIS is out of hand

clever wasp
#

oh no, another shitty friend

graceful wing
#

cause david's obsessed with russian stuff

clever wasp
#

as if we needed more after Shadow

fast wigeon
#

playing the fps test again and i kinda prefer the exagerrated recoil on the marakovs

opal plover
#

Guys DM me if you want to see E3MS2

mild ginkgo
#

perhaps one of the most interesting levels in dusk

clever wasp
#

wait, I think I figured out the key to this strange puzzle

mild ginkgo
#

that one i think only maybe 3 or 4 people will ever know about

#

and the reason how and why it exists

clever wasp
#

there is no ending in Dusk, the ending is actually the Survival level for episode 3. Duskdude dies at the end of the game, amidst a sea of demons, cultists, and the cadavers of the former two categories

opal plover
#

Even after the release of the builds?

mild ginkgo
#

its too incomprehensible and also was never in a build

#

but, maybe we'll explain it at some point

clever wasp
#

so it's basically Escher Labs Ultra ?

mild ginkgo
#

no not even

opal plover
#

Anyway the more I think about it the more it feels like that screenshot 500 deleted could legit be E3MS2

#

As in it's gonna be cool to some people and others won't get it

mild ginkgo
#

how abouuuut

clever wasp
#

Jab did say that some people might not get E3MS

opal plover
#

What if it's like the entirety of the dusk developpement put into a map

mild ginkgo
#

nah he didnt

#

he said MOST people wont get it

opal plover
#

And it's like a thank you from David

clever wasp
#

doesn't disprove my point

mild ginkgo
#

ill be shocked if people get it in the first day

#

its kind of obtuse

#

not get TO it

graceful wing
#

it's gonna take a little bit to get

mild ginkgo
#

but understand what it is

fast wigeon
#

didnt someone say at one point that a secret level was going to be a reference to one of davids older games

clever wasp
#

honestly devs underestimate their fanbases a lot

mild ginkgo
#

no we didnt

fast wigeon
#

huh

clever wasp
#

remember when BoI was datamined three hours after release ?

fast wigeon
#

i could have sworn i heard someone say that about e2ms before it was made

clever wasp
#

(or something along those lines)

graceful wing
#

nah you guys won't get it straight away

#

trust me

mild ginkgo
#

id be quite surprised

#

theres nothing to datamine, its just simply something to understand

#

and its hard to grasp, i think

graceful wing
#

it's the πŸ€” secret

fast wigeon
#

u need a very high iq to understand e3mS

mild ginkgo
#

not really

#

it was daves idea

opal plover
#

E3MS2 @fast wigeon

mild ginkgo
#

theres a hint

fast wigeon
#

hmmmm

opal plover
#

A hint in game?

mild ginkgo
#

a hint about it not being a 200 iq thing

opal plover
#

But like a hint inside of the game?

fast wigeon
#

im tryna think what it possibly could be, because i think someone said at some point that it isnt a reference to anything

graceful wing
#

that's up to you to find out

#

not going into specifics here

clever wasp
#

it's an essay on the nature of conscience, transcribed unto a cube, then imported as a Unity asset

fast wigeon
#

what if e3ms2 is like kanye quest where its a hidden recruitment programme for a real ass cult

clever wasp
#

that, or David somehow created an infinite map in the shape of a hypercube

prisma halo
#

shit he got us

mild ginkgo
#

man i always go through to factoryscene2

prisma halo
#

that one's an interesting one

mild ginkgo
#

and look at just how doomlike dusk was gonna be

opal plover
#

Yeah like a hypercube was what I was thinking

mild ginkgo
#

its insannnnely doom

#

that wouldve been an interesting dusk to get

graceful wing
#

ye the current dusk is indistinguishable from those old builds

#

the game's definitely come a long way

prisma halo
#

no kidding

opal plover
#

And doomlike how?

mild ginkgo
#

nah

#

theres never been a screenshot of it

clever wasp
#

pretty sure that's E1MS tbh

fast wigeon
#

the levels were definitely a lot more like iD levels from what ive played of the old builds and the e3 build

mild ginkgo
#

and its just like, if you look at it, its fucking doom

graceful wing
#

some of those pre alpha preview builds are still floating around the internet

prisma halo
#

there's quite a few levels we haven't shown

graceful wing
#

although (begin shill)...

opal plover
#

@clever wasp That an old ass map in David's probuilder shill video

prisma halo
#

there are four alpha builds floating around for free, plus an E3 (the convention, not episode) build you get with Dusk

graceful wing
#

if you purchase the digital CE it'll eventually have a complete dev history of DUSK included along with playable builds from along the way

prisma halo
#

as complete as we can get, that is

#

since a lot of E1 stuff is gone

fast wigeon
#

wow watching the probuilder video and e3m1 has been in development for a realllly long time huh

mild ginkgo
#

sort of

#

A1M2 was

opal plover
#

Anyway those old builds don't have much of interest in them do they? @prisma halo

prisma halo
#

some of them are really interesting imo

fast wigeon
#

ah yes Apisode 1

clever wasp
#

old builds are always interesting

prisma halo
#

some are just pre-alpha versions of the pre pre pre alpha build

mild ginkgo
#

theres some VERY interesting stuff

#

including the cut weapons, etc

graceful wing
#

^

prisma halo
#

I used one of those builds to patch the Amulet back in

fast wigeon
#

amulet?

prisma halo
#

Dark Claw

fast wigeon
#

is that a diff name for the totem or

prisma halo
#

or Totem, yes

graceful wing
#

it's going to have as much stuff in there as possible

prisma halo
#

it has had three names

mild ginkgo
#

^

opal plover
#

I mean there's no like old weapon we didn't see right?

fast wigeon
#

u can still get the CE even if you hadnt preordered right

mild ginkgo
#

theres at least one you havent seen i think

mild ginkgo
#

very much so actually

#

i remember it

prisma halo
#

I listed the weapons way back

graceful wing
#

yup. the CE is going to be a normal DLC purchase if you didn't get the game before xmas 2017 (anyone who bought the game before then gets the ce for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

fast wigeon
#

neat

#

by dlc you mean i can get all the alpha builds n stuff digitally

mild ginkgo
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uh, we havent worked out exactly how the builds are going to be released

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it might just be put out to public

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who knows

prisma halo
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Yeah, I'm not entirely sure how we should do that

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Like, even right down to the "how should we package them" level

mild ginkgo
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we'll work it out

graceful wing
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yea, there are a lot of builds

prisma halo
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We might actually put out some content as stuff you just load via the SDK

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eg, old versions of maps that don't exist in any builds we have archived, but are on the Git

mild ginkgo
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anyways theres at least one unexpected weapon that nobody in here really knows about

opal plover
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Like a BFG?

mild ginkgo
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yeah i think sdk loadable would probably be ideal

mild ginkgo
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like nothing you will guess

prisma halo
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the console is currently in the process of being rewritten actually, since we can load TTF/OTF fonts via mods now

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custom fonts were a feature I was worried about for a while since Unity doesn't actually let you load any old TTF/OTF, so I just wrote my own loader

fast wigeon
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cant wait for the console to be in a public build

mild ginkgo
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hey like i said

fast wigeon
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i already spend way too much time dicking around in e1 anyway so it would be perfect

mild ginkgo
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theres a awy

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way*

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you can absolutely gain access, you just have to know exactly what youre doing

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the breadcrumbs are there

fast wigeon
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cant wait for the console to be in a public build in a way that doesnt require searching for an obscure secret no one has found*

prisma halo
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if this is the way you're talking about scott, like no commands will actually work though lol

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they'd just get the console

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but no commands

graceful wing
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soon

mild ginkgo
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yeah basically

clever wasp
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the breadcrumbs are there but they are invisible, outside of walls, and also may or may not be radioactive

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is the issue

mild ginkgo
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theyd get one that would be interesting

prisma halo
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I'll give them a hint

mild ginkgo
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dont

prisma halo
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it's not something you do in-game

mild ginkgo
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no

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ok

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yeah i told them that alraedy

prisma halo
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oh ok

opal plover
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Yeah that way to access it sounds way too abscure Scott

graceful wing
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probably not worth losing sleep over

mild ginkgo
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its fairly obscure

opal plover
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nyway you told us we don't have to fuck with the files

mild ginkgo
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and will be unusable when we release the patch

graceful wing
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the reward isn't really worth the effort

mild ginkgo
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which is like a week

fast wigeon
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shit i didnt know it wasnt in game

clever wasp
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you basically can (not need) to hex edit the game exe. I didn't try but there's a particular bit that allows the console to show up apparently

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s'how a lot of games did it back then

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before launch options were a thing

fast wigeon
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ok im gonna start looking for it again now that i have an idea where to actually start

mild ginkgo
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its literally not worth your time

clever wasp
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I mean if the console doesn't work

mild ginkgo
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it does work

prisma halo
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It works, the commands don't though

mild ginkgo
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youre just limited

prisma halo
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only like, one or two would work

mild ginkgo
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unless you know even FURTHER precisely what youre doing

graceful wing
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yea so you'd basically just have an ingame notepad

fast wigeon
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still, would be neat to say im the first one to find something in a game

mild ginkgo
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but that would require quite a decent technical knowledge

clever wasp
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mh

mild ginkgo
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and research

clever wasp
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and to be fair I don't want to deal with hex, personally

prisma halo
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and knowledge of how the console even works in dusk

clever wasp
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so be my guest dorito

mild ginkgo
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youre strongly advised to just wait it out

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but its there if youre a go getter

fast wigeon
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i dont think it would be hex

prisma halo
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if you're smart enough you could even add your own console commands

fast wigeon
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it doesnt involve messing with game files

mild ginkgo
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yeah, and thats even another layer deep

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because now you need to know how Dusk itself is structured

clever wasp
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to be clear I'm not saying it has to be hex edited. I'm saying that if it actually is in the game, you can hex edit the exe to get to it

prisma halo
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or at least the parts of the SDK that were imported for the console

clever wasp
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it's very probably not the intended way

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but it's a way

mild ginkgo
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and unity knowledge

prisma halo
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I'll say now that hex editing the .exe wouldn't work

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the exe is literally just the Unity player

mild ginkgo
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yep

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and thats actually a huge hint

prisma halo
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I'd be very surprised if that hint helped anyone lmao

clever wasp
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matter of finding the right bit in the right file then

fast wigeon
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am i gonna need unity for this

mild ginkgo
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no

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but unity knowledge would help you understand how to effect the game in positive ways

prisma halo
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what you need is actually rather obscure

mild ginkgo
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and actually to add your own, yes,sort of

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you need parts of unity

fast wigeon
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not gonna bother trying to get any commands to work, i just want to see the secret menu

mild ginkgo
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but not actually unity

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yeah just opening the console can be done pretty easily

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like i have it done on the retail release on my personal machine

clever wasp
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I have one question though

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why ?

mild ginkgo
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but again, its not worth your time

opal plover
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Yeah does seem pretty pointless

clever wasp
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like what'd be the purpose of such a waste of time ? it's not like there is an entire other game behind that wall, is it ?

mild ginkgo
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no

opal plover
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Let's talk about cut content instead

mild ginkgo
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its just for the spirit of adventure mostly

fast wigeon
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i also wanna do it to be able to access cut content without messing with the level files

mild ginkgo
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and technically you could access e2m10's floating original geometry with it

graceful wing
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trhere's nothing really worthwhile included with the game install currently

mild ginkgo
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and some other very oob stuff people havent found

fast wigeon
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jesus fuck theres more oob stuff

opal plover
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Eh we'll find all of this when the SDK comes out anyway

mild ginkgo
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none of it is particularly interesting

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it just exists

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and yes, you will

opal plover
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And that's more like next january or febuary

mild ginkgo
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thats why we said waiting is a better idea

graceful wing
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if you've seen test levels in any game ever you've seen the test stuff in dusk

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it really isn't anything interesting

opal plover
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Anyway you what is interesting?

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Cut content!

prisma halo
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y'all want a throwback?

mild ginkgo
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i still have that 😏

clever wasp
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the hell kind of GUI is this

prisma halo
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a prototype one

graceful wing
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one made in 15 mins