#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
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I mean
If the final boss isnt fortnite thanos then 0/10
in Amid Evil you laugh when you pick up a new weapon
you know who else laughs?
YOU GUESSED IT
thanos car
BOSS BABY
also
Dusk is a ripoff of Minecraft because you hear the water noises from Minecraft in dusk
Mojang plz sue
Dusk is a Shenmue clone
your a shenmue clone
The inspiration for Dusk is actually the game 'Bad Rats', a sleeper hit in the RTS genre. It is noted for its lifelike graphics and experimental rap soundtrack, both of which Dusk tries to emulate.
hence why Demon Rats are enemies.
dusk is just a Doom: Eternal clone
Andrew makes the best rap.
tbh, Andrew could pull off rap metal the same way Anthrax did with Chuck D.
Andrew/Kendrick Lamar mashup when?
AbsolutelyNAH
Dusk - Did You Know Gaming?
Did you know? Dusk is actually short for Desert Busk
Who would host the dusk ep?
Dave
`lil john
tbh he is a manlet
Did you know? David Syznmanski is also the developer of Fingerbones 2 more finger bones.
Thanks shill.
Shill soosks
time to make a donut
lol
That's not really as disturbing as you think it is when you realize all those cultists are praising the sun
They're sunbros, they're chill
Actually big john looks an awful lot like the sun in that image too
Praise the big john
wheres the intoxigator r34
on animal planet
get your scalie shit outta here
Wait until Jizzus makes HDusk
obligatory sorlagxintoxigator r34
When is the shockmaster getting added?
i readed newest pinned message, so Dusk is coming in one month? i hope so
500 confirmed that it is coming out in 2018
so it will be christmas at the absolute latest
or new year's eve
Are vehicles destructible in Dusk? I haven't played in like a month or 2. I honestly forget.
roid rage
Use the form!
cheevo idea:
I did I'm just posting it here cus I'm chuckling at myself
cheeto idea: obtain cheetos
NERD - 100% the game
don't write in form, don't write in form
server achievement
OMG @crimson folio
hi
hi there
I met you before
apologies if i don't recall offhand :v
ahhhh that's a tag i am familiar with. hello!
yes hi :o)
Just sent my own suggestion
-"Cancelled"
-"Complete eps 1 and 2 and never start episode 3"
the hardest cheevo EVER
easiest
I want an achievement for beating an episode with only sickles
Submit it then! And it might get int!
doin it right now !
I love submitting ideas like this
Critical Blindness Failure and Return to Sender.
Not Worthy- get killed by the first 3 chainsaw guys in the beginning of ep 1
not much of an "achievement"
i want an achievement for going out of bounds
when you see xxxxxs those are MINE β’ β’ β’
oof i sent like 10 already
legit ones
I've sent about five.
MAN i HAVE so many MORE
Pure Comrade, Bestest Friends, Return to sender, DUSKertale, Critical Blindness Failure, and It's what I came here for.
Ik Dave will probably want the Pure Comrade cheevo
i plan to get all of the achievements when they come out
π
You Really Like That Level Don't You
wanted to submit an achievement for replaying a single level a lot of times but that seemed stupid
I did submit an achievement for beating a level with the Virtual Blech colors on tho
^^
Called "I Can't See Sh!t, Captain!"
thats the Color theory one
This might just be my humble onion, but IMO achievements that require you to deliberately play bad or just switch on a filter that hurts your eyes aren't very good
OH
i'm lazy
@jaunty meteor Eh, i donno.
alexa, what's a hyperbole
fair enough

...
ye
thats it for now
hey guys
just coming to check if ep is still CANCELL
ofc go home
*ep3
π€
Done
but yee what about ep3 specific cheevos ? maybe ?
dusk need an achievement that if you get a sub 10 second e1m1 time you get a link to the dusk speed run discord
Find Big John revived in his skeletal demon form and kill him
#spoilers... HMMMMM

So, when do we get the full list of cheevo submissions, if at all?
on release i suppose
You don't, they look at it internally and choose the best
if any
Come on people we need a bigger player on dusk servers. As much as I enjoy jumping into the lava we still need a bigger player count.
Check out #lfg-signup , we have a channel for finding duskworld games
Plus frag nights weekly on saturdays, usually a good chunk playing then
I was kinda confused from the Ep3 footage there was a room full of mushrooms or crystals of madness ?
I member the magik mushy room
ahhhhh ye "Magik" mushrooms
Are they psychedelic though ? 
so dusk episode 3 is still SOONβ’
gibe it a month or two
ooo
David I assume is still on Holiday.
I just want access to the Beta πΆ
I also want the beta
as of right now there isn't any beta
at least none's been mentioned idk about any internal stuff
No beta
Well announce when there is one. Anything not from an admin or dusk dev can be safely disregarded
so like everything Jab says then ?
there's a couple qa nerds that you could probably omit some grains of salt from
Nah while a few of the mods are in qa their lips are sealed
I can wait
interface update comes soon or on release day?
F-Zero?
captain falcon from smash brothers
Best racing franchise
never even seen f zero in real life
Anti-gravity cars that go at 2000+ mph
F-Zero is a meme
soon ish
The first one is, the gamecube title is god tier
UI update needs Unity to do something IIRC
Thinking about it
nah its been fixed by unity
How hard is for you guys to develop the sdk tools in unity?
but we've got strategic decisions to make regarding it
the sdk tools have almost nothing to do with unity
oh?
thats the entire idea
"LOOK AT HIS HEALTH BAR!!!"
Get killed by a boss who has 5 health points or less
And
"no turning back now" for finishing Ep1
"the only way out is through" for Ep 2
And "Duskslayer" for Ep3
Duskdude wanders eternaly in the nameless city he destroyed, with the screen being a small figure amid huge ruins
What's your idea for Dusk's ending?
Yeah it's defo gonna be a twist
the nameless city is actually our own dimension, so he gets caught by 3 leathernecks and...
π
the memeless city
yep
M. Night Shyamalan would be proud
In all seriousness that's not a good plot twist because it lowers the stakes instead of elevating them.
yeah i know
just making some ideas
about what Dave said
"the ending is dope", "...what we let you do after it" etc
Yeah with a change of tone at the end of Ep3
what about that screenshot tho
Could be
i wonder how many achievements gonna be in Dusk
What were they?
- Kill 100 enemies with gun twirling
- Flush 10 books
30 enemies sounds more reasonable
yeah I even thought of 200 lol
yeah i tend to agree
I think 3 is fine
π
3 bosses sounds more reasonable than 100 enemies
anyway if they include my suggestion it's up to them
In the end of Dusk, duskdude meets duke nukem in bar as he drowns his sorrows while being fat.
i hope Dave implements 6K achievements like in World of Warcraft 
no pls
wonder how many they have atm
over nine thousand
they'll cancel Dusk after reading what we've suggested
it'll be moirai all over again
What happened to moirai?
Was it taken down because of how stupid everything people said was?
its really sad
"for the luls"
because that plot twist at the end has a great potential
I never got to play it
why's your Steam in French

Becuse I am french, I'm a big fan of baguettes and revolutions
gee I wonder

ey, you never know, sometimes people do that to learn another language
s'how I learned English FWIW
also bobby I just realized your profile picture is BOOM
30 yr DooMer
40yr
SIPS
WE BUILT THIS CITY ON ROOOOCK AND ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLL
Dusk chick is the main hero? 
Churbot is the dark lord confirm
Duskdude is just a chick with a really deep voice
Boomy Ryack
Don't mind me I'm just taking a sip out of my trusty can of monster energy zero ultra
Good man
"monster energy zero ultra"
the best of energy drinks! π

Use the cigar 100 times π€·
"lung cancer"
lol
submitted a couple of cheeveroni suggestions
CHUR
"-nomonsters" get 100% kills in all levels
I'm stealing that one to add to the internal list 47
LMAO
"hygenic/germaphobe" find soap in every level
"Save Scummer" Quick save 100 times.
which one
I suppose people already called a "moment of zen" thing with killing enemies with deflected projectiles?
or are both already a thing
the soap one
Dave really liked that one
wheels turning hmmm
I hope I'm not saying to much here
"I LIKE MY HANDS BLOODY"
-Flush a soap bar down the toilet
otherwise I could get in trouble π
"Cool off" - flush an enemy down the toilet
lol
i dont think achievments are gonna spoil anything
flush episode 3 down the toilet
unless its like "defeated the final boss"
garbage.
"You're cancelled"
I doubt it's too much of a big deal
which is why I said anything in the first place
"Settings Swapper" Open the options menu 100 times.
but still technically leaking
"Back on the hooks" Die to the first four leathernecks.
CHEEKI-BREEKI
-Complete the game using "Strelok"palette
are achievements a thing that take a while to implement
sure they take time
there is an achievement for that ze
Oh.
a suggested one at least
id like to think dieing to the first 3 leathernecks is the canon ending
"Pull!" kill an enemy that's in the air from a jumpad
Honestly going back on the hooks seems like something that'd happen to DUSK Dude if he tried to escape.
oo there should be an achievment for killing a priestess in a sword duel, "chivallry" or smth
tis but a flesh wound
"Reaper of Souls" heal 50hp with health bonuses off dead enemies in Endless mode
only possible with the new DUSK Shit Tracking Technology
Hate the achievements everyone gets by just playing though @vale oar
π
ye the "play with a certain setting" or "do overly specific thing 200 times" ones suck too
"Make ep1 final boss infight"
don't want to say just in case
alright
The dumbest ones
Last I looked, we had close to 200 suggestions
Pis
Nice and easy one
hey, the flashlight breaks twice in ep2, right?
as I remember, yeah
More flashlight breaking action soon in Episode 3
How old is that flashlight to break on a fall
Or did he get it from a gas station
We need the flashlight lore for Dusk
here's a pointless one
"Open wide" - Gib a horror with the super shotgun
"break your flashlight 10 times" haha
"Fool me once" - Engage an ambushing Scarecrow before it awakens
I don't think you can attack them before they awake?
you can
yeah they're invulnerable
wasted all my ammo doing it too
But... it worked in the pre-pre-pre-alpha D:
feh
regardless of achievement ideas, that's something worth changing
I wish Scarecrows could awake randomly
yeah, i agree
cause there are static ones
Okay alongside the toilet skull in E1M7 that's one of the things that had no reason to be changed
scarecrows are fine
the static ones are to keep you guessing
if every scarecrow came to life it would get stale fast
Yeah anyway you can't shoot static scarecrows in the pre pre pre alpha
Making the ones that awake random would add some variety to runs though
Eh but that's part of the level design though
preplaced enemy positions are better
With a fixed number of those that awake the rng would be... calculable...
part of the appeal is learning the levels anyway
But yeah it'd make speedrunning a bit harder
remembering which scarecrows are real can be just as satisfying as being surprised by them
I just love the psychological horror aspect of the scarecrows
Which is gone once you know
Then again, the fact that non-transforming scarecrows are a thing will be fun for custom content.
Regardless of whether they will be randomized in the main campaign or not
could be modded in easily tbh
if someone mods that in, I will host a stream of said mod just to let people see me getting mauled by Wendigos 0.2 seconds after the start of a level 3 times in a row
I'm gonna make a mod that can make melee enemies move while moving
Mod idea: make all enemies Wendigos
Actually is that a thing priestesses do?
NO
to be fair an enemy pseudo-randomizer mod could be neat
Ye
or episode randomizer
Or boss randomizer
Or texture randomizer
R A N D O M I Z E E V E R Y T H I N G
the next level of procedurally generated games: "We just let an AI do it"
Oh no...
this gonna happen folks
Don't strafe DUSK
how about a chaotic mess known as a co-op campaign mod
Imagine one of those text to image generators but it's text to game
Text-To-Dusk
like, take an AI that generates Zork-like scripts, but as input
Dusk-To-Speech?
Coop campaign might luckily likely be a thing with DAWN anyways
feed it to a script that builds a level based on this
Dusk the alexa text adventure
Like that one skyrim version
for real, I've had worse DMs than Alexa
Guys
oh no i just thought of something
Duskworld as an alexa text adventure game
dusk, but every enemy is b i g j o h n
I just won a google home mini and I have no clue what the hell I'm supposed to use it for.
you live in it @delicate sail
So generating DUSK levels might be an idea
the first music video in Youtube tendancies
Ok google, show me episode 3
BSOD
we should make a voice assistant with the voice of Big John
ok google, show me a video on youtube that was actually monetized
whose activation command is CMAHN
Ooooh
DOITNOW
That's an incredible idea
starts playing a "DO NOT SPIN INFINITY WAR FIDGET SPINNER AT 3 AM" video
Does Dave have it set up like that?
asking the important questions
I need that google home mod in my life
Sooo... DUSK achievements, huh? Kinda got off topic for some reason... 
we always do
to be fair I'm pretty sure most achievements are already sort of covered anyway
I'm only really gunning for the names at this point
i made a few
"Chur Niggurath" - telefrag the ep2 boss
some of which are related to flashlights, synthwave, and beer
Synthwave?
musical genre
Talking about which...
i made an "AESTHETIC" achievement
That's vaporwave
you have to beat E2M5 with "Fury Dragon" on
did you know that AESTHETIC is an Amid Evil cheat code
"You're gonna hurt your neck" - headbang to the e1m10 track while fighting the boss
I think I've done four so far and they're all easy-ish
the trickiest I submitted is Mirror Force, kill a boss mob with a reflected projectile
"Jab's dead baby"
-find E3MS2
nightmare mode + intruder, max pixellization, clown vomit mode, no autoaim, etc., and beat all 3 chapters like that
I don't think the game can track much of anything across all three chapters
except individual level medals
so this prevents most shit like "Clear the entire game without dying"
"Jab's loss" find E3MS2
to me it seems like this form is just an excuse for a pun contest
most of what I've submitted is a pun one way or the other
"What year is this?" Find Dopefish
nah man, it needs to be "Dopefish Lives"
"The well of wishes"
DON'T GO IN THE WELL
you don't
It's e3m3
it's in E3
oh ok
I meant the commander Keen level lol
man, i sure love playing e3
i love the part in e3 where it prevents me from playing it because the option is greyed out
soon(tm)
Looks like someone did not watch both PAX streams π
nope
Someone wasn't at Qcon to play ep3 hehe
lol
someone doesn't have a means of getting there, heh
someone nearly missed the doom eternal stream because they slept in, heh
and someone's just a lazy fuck:(
because someone lives in an entirely different country
Not my fault you don't live in freedom town
Oof
yeah true about the country
Oi
Rule 1
Rules my boi
DEV IN CHAT
i know, just trying to sum up canada compared to america
How's evacuating, David?
Dude did you read my acheevos ideas
that was the first thing that came to mind

please please
David is backseatting ban him π
@jade root actually not too bad. We got up super early so we avoided most of the traffic
Oof
David coming home from vacation?
Yeah hurricane evac
yeah to cancel ep3
We didn't even get half way through the week lol
E3M5, Hurricane... π€
David is coming home, then he's gonna finish climbing out of the hell he dug himself, then hes gonna dissapear for a year
Gon b epic
The rising winds bring the stench of rotten meat
^
then we're gonna get dusk 2 hellectric boogaloo about 10 years from now
Spearheaded by Leon
it's gonna have loot boxes up the ass, and it's gonna glow in the FUCKING dusk
Leno
Uh oh jab is chat
henlo
Dusk 2 is weird for me to think about because Dusk is already sort of a trilogy
i need lore
CHURUNO
what about doom 2 @thorn trout
Resident Evil 4 had a chainsaw shaped controller, so does that mean Dusk will get two controllers shaped like sickles?
Churuno no big John kyoshitsu
technically dusk is 3 games in one
Oh damn, hope the evac is going well!
BRUH that would be good for a switch controller
also, best of luck @thorn trout
with the thing
Yeah we love you David!
and the other thing
Dusk 2 will be a tactical survival shooter set in los angeles.
to win you must buy Dave dinner
@crude forge yeah but dooms episodes were developed kind of at the same time and ep1 was intended to be the showpiece, whereas dusk episodes have been done in order and each one is trying to one up the previous one. So it's more like a self contained trilogy
Winner winner buy dave dinner
good point
Dusk Redshift will be out first
Also thanks, we will be safe π
E3MS2 hints at redshift
dusk 4 will just be a starbound mod
David, is Jab fucking with us about E3MS2
dusk 5 is a racing game for some reason
I don't actually think he is
whats redshift
LIke he turned it into a meme later on
^^^^
oh ok
Based off of Davids FAVORITE dlc Blueshift
Day one too
If we did an achievement for finding e3ms2 I don't think anyone would get it
but what if google? 
Yeah Jab is obviously bullshittin us
David hid that level real good
It's kinda bs tbh
It'll be interesting to see who finds it first
to find it you must first play E.T. for atari
woah
I need to replay the hl expansions. I remember liking blue shift but it's been years
David
didn't get into both of 'em
ah sven
Just replayed though both real fun
Sven doesn't count
what a shitshow
Sven is always a complete mess and it's wonderful
wow damn i wanted to look up that PAX stream, and apparently dusk has a 10/10 rating
nice job guys, you did a thing
Yeah miss nb vc gaming. Was fun.
^
not sure what the thing was, but you did it good
I remember everyone in sven co-op meming
i remember some good servers where you could level up and become so damn op
No you haven't
i think it was possible to 1-shot a gargantuan
Playing fear is a good way to spend time
You've been playing SS3D
FEAR combat π
I am close to finishing ss3d
Yeah I have to be close to the end
It's like if someone took a bunch of really directionlessly angry Slavs, shot them full of drugs, and told them to recreate condemned in zdoom
so, russian overkill?
No there's some sense to Russian overkill
lmao what
i really wish there were more games like fear
"there's some sense to russian overkill"
you feeling alright, david?
Sharpshooter is like mentally deranged slavclunk elevated to performance art
Maximum Action to the rescue
Maximum Action has the potential to be something great
i mean maximum action is nothing like fear reaally
but i do like the direction its headed in
the dev seems really chill
He is
screw you shill
What have I done? I've just noticed it is E3M5 at the preview
ok i just thought of something stupid
What preview?
we need a mod that replaces monika from ddlc with shillbot
On my way to the nuclear shelter. See y'all later, meatbags.
BAM, PROFIT
that pic from steam store
wow, no time wasted on the "weeb" thing
That was drawn way before E3M5 was a thing
but hell, IT IS E3M5 isn't it?
Not really
well okay maybe an earlier version
oof
foo
E3MS3 vomitorium
all games need a thing like that
Now we just wait for infinite ammo
yessssss
also i saw yahtzee review dusk
oddly he did it in the same video as literally the worst game of 2017-18
Yeah I remember being surprised that Yahzee didn't like it as much as, say, GGGMan
I'm curious what his verdict's gonna be once DUISK hits 1.0. Iirc, he only reviewed DUSK EA when Ep1 was out.
Ep 2 too
I would guess that's probably the only video he will be doing on the game.
Can't spell dusk without suk
cyka
Desert Busk
oh shit
that reminds me, has anyone tried to play that desert bus remake on pc?
emphasis on tried?
Yeah possibly. I mean it's all subjective and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That said, I do disagree on his critique of the level design quite a bit though.
And early 3d graphics will always be... let's say... controversial π
idk the level design is FINE imo
Level design and model fidelity are two different things that he mashes together yeah
Dusk has better graphics than most AAA games made in the past few years, the image isnt cluttered and horrible.
He criticises level design but what he's actually talking about is the model/architecture fidelity
Dusk is not about "grafix" from the tech. point of view, it's all about being splendid by USING old-styled grafix
e3mS2
fuck.
E3ms3
I mean his whole schtick is being nitpicky about stuff so it's hardly surprising he'd go for the visuals. Not a big deal, especially since mostly he had good things to say
david hows the secret level coming?
True
decompiles all ep3 maps and loads them up in trenchbroom through hacker magic
Everyone's talking about e3ms2 and here I am all about that e3m12
Man those new secret level(s) are wacky!
no u
Anyway how's the boss fight coming along?
viscunt
:C
david does boss fight better than monhun tbh
monhun4u
my hands
steal someone elses and use nanomachines
thanosmachines
thanos car hands
when is thanos gonna be in dusk mr syzamanskreeeeeeee
XYZmanski
Thanos is in this?!
perfectly balanced
Thanos car in dusk you say? π€
Thanos car
Jab with infinity gauntlet
yeah, this idea is so great it might require a whole episode to itself
ep 4 confirmed?

But... Dusk battle royale was confirmed already π€
Well yeah what do you think ep4 is?
tHy MEMES CONSUMED
a total conversion to fortnite
sorry caps
MEMEZZZ
Ep3 will be renamed xen but red
ep4 with narration from Jab
Jab with infinity gauntlet
see i dont believe that we live in a society
or audio from a Naruto episode
Believe It!
just put on a clip of aya going "ayayayayayayayaya"
me irl
once you beat ep 4
ur added to the gamer compilation
ep4 will be called "The Duskord Asylum" and just be a meme compilation
cultists will say "SOON" upon seeing Duskdude
Haha @clever wasp , that WOULD be a great promo for Ep3
I have some lines done/submit for fork miaden
err maiden
I'm working on some more thouigh
past the burger king?
Anyone can drive the Thanos Car but it only has a driver seat
ANd maybe some others.
if the final boss does not have a sound byte of David (or Dave, I'm fine with either) going "em llik tsum uoy, emag eht niw ot" I wil be disappoint
The final boss is something that will make people happy. I can promise that
Icon of Sin 2
Lolno
lmao
Not that
also on a semi related note, please tell me there is/will be a Developer Room
Way cooler
is it robo hitler 2?
A mech of Caleb, the Duke, Ranger and Doomguy?
nah the boss must be defeatable
that's kind of a necessary thing
(also that kind of boss will replace the actual final boss with an army of lawyers)
the chief level designer of Wolfenstein 2, using a mech
should have been Owen Wilson
Damn, you didn't lie when you said it will make people happy.
good
Is this because you guys hate money
thanos car will take care of him
How convenient that there's already an email alias in place for Mike to contact

and if you're really mad, sueavain@lain.com
Does the first one actually lead anywhere or were you just shitposting all along?
The Dave email is real
Why am I not surprised?
nb is a serious company
i thought work on the boss hadnt really started yet
and if it has, is it comin along like dave wanted
cos he said during the first ep3 stream that he has big plans for the ending
Its just a bunch of clips of Thanos doing the fortnite dance
neat
Patience π―
pin pls
id really rather not atm
not with davids pin being the most recent
if u pin it people might think its serious too
ah yeah
knowing this server probably
david's info is really imp-ant for most ppl
are you really too lazy to type important
Y.
π€
i'm the laz-st m-n in the w-ld
a y r t2 l 2 ty imp-ant
It feels so close that I'm actually getting more patient
im getting less patient the closer i know it is
its more frustrating when its so tantalisingly close
The way I look at it as that I've waited this long
it's so close and David's been a good boi so it's worth some more patience
o no im not gonna have a go at david or smth
but i want it more than i have done at any point in the past
canceled
its been cancelled ever since it was announced according to u
I mean it has
Dusk is just like Duke Nukem Forever
it'll be in development forever because of the fact it keeps getting cancelled then handed off to someone else
David is not actually the name of a man, it's a title inherited by those who are developing dusk
Susk
Desert Busk
so it's gonna be an okay game, but shitcanned by every single critic because of the ludicrous development time/history ?
It's a good game, just not a good DUSK game.
and also arguably not that great of a game even on it's own two feet as it relies entirely on Dusk humor that's clearly meant to appeal to Dusk veteran fans who've been waiting for so long that isn't done as well as it once was
and yet the gameplay decisions are clearly intended for a new target audience that is decidedly not Dusk fans
so the game ends up making everyone dislike it
Duskdude also won't be as cool as he was in the games everyone knew and loved
why cant they just make DUSK games like 1 and 2 and New Erebus, instead of this dumbed down mainstream crap with no FPS elements like in DUSK 4π
Such a shame that David had to sell the rights to Gearbox and then EA and such
I like this new narrative
Honestly I enjoyed my time with Duke nukem forever. It definitely wasn't great but it was okay and all the interaction gimmicks were fun. A pretty solid 6.5/10
^
The PC improvements helped too
got crushed under its own hype mostly
Duke Nukem Forever is the epitome of the pretty ok shooter
It felt ok to play. Too much hype to get it right at people's expectations though.
Like half life 3, If they release it now, how would it be?
Most of the hate was because of its legacy and objections to the purile humor
HL3 might be a different beast, the series as a whole rely on storytelling more than raw gameplay
ye p much
if you take HL2 as a pure shooter, at face value, it's... pretty okay
hl1 was a pretty crap shooter
I mean... Take hl2 as a narrative shooter and it's quite poor tbh
i think hl2 has pretty enjoyable combat
Hl2 was very much about the tech and the journey, not the story or gunplay
its the level design and the tight pacing that cement it as being great
plus the variety in scenarios and encounters
the best narrative game was Pathologic imo. It's FUCKING WEIRD but it's cool in terms of narration
also, while the story is... something, HL2 focuses more on storytelling
and truth be told, in 2004, Valve's way of bringing the story was new
I've Pick Lodge is like on an entire other level than the rest of us when it comes to telling a story through gameplay
i havent played pathologic but the thief games are very good at marrying story themes and gameplay
^
HL2 definitely had good storytelling intentions yeah. It owes a lot to immersive Sims though
The story itself undermines it a lot unfortunately
also didnt unreal do the whole "one perspective journey" thing before half-life
HL1 did the schtick better, but HL2 also had an amazing world so...
yeah, through journal notes.
Unreal 1 had about as much story as Quake tbh
@fast wigeon yeah it did, although to be fair it relied more on logs than environmental storytelling
ye unreal had a basic story but i meant the way you move through the game
like how every level is connected
HL2 does do a good job with environmental storytelling
I mean... You could argue build games did that first if you want to go way back
yeaa but build games werent 100% consistent with it
and level transition screens broke the illusion a little
- you couldnt backtrack in build
there were transitions in HL2 too tbf
That's true
Unreal 1 actually had a lot of story if you read the logs. Which is kind of an overdone thing now but at the time it was very cool
You follow d different characters and stuff
Was neat
Hexen had a hub system, you could go through several interconnected levels and things you did on one level could change in another level. Haven't played that much of hexen to give a solid opinion though.
the main issue with unreals story is that you didnt really know your overarching objective
Unreal 1 did a lot of things well
i think one of the logs tells you to get to the sunspire, which gives you a goal, but thats kinda obscure
@fast wigeon ehh fair enough. I mean if I'm honest I'm very seldom motivated by the story in an fps
still, i think just knowing what your endgame is from the start helps it feel like a journey
like how you know in half life 2 your final objective is the citadel
the overarching objective, at first, is "Your ship crashed. Do you want to send an error report ? Find a way to get the fuck off of this planet before you get turned into Skaarj food"
Yeah you're probably right
then the Nali come in
Also an issue with dusk
u couldnt have really done it with dusk anyway, unless you planned episode 3 right from the start
and dusk is more of a quake with story and level progression than it is a unreal or half life
which is perfectly fine and has its advantages
Yeah and dusk never started as a game with much of a plot, more a setup and a world
Dave and I have different ideas of where the game needed to go story wise and the final product is mostly Dave narrative and my world building. With some overlap.
ah
I like the experience aspect, Dave likes the lore aspect
well if dave is better at narrative and ur better at world building then thats a good thing, aslong as its cohesive
btw the environmental story telling u put in gives the game a bunch more replay value
also the game might just not need a complex narrative
stuff like how the secret in escher labs has lore implications about the black phillips
as I point out often, back in my day, all the narrative we had was "The princess has been kidnapped, rescue her", and it still made great, unforgettable games
(or more closely, "You're on Mars. You have a gun. Zombies. GO")
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slipped the big john in
Also Doom's story was in it's manual
and in between episodes
u could probably figure out the doom story without the text and manual tbh
still boils down to "Mars, Zombies, guns, hell, rip and tear"
demons running around and dead marines is all you really need
Man punches demons to super hell
yep
man is upstanding marine
Dusk turns out to be a bit like that tbqh
treasure hunter, insane cult, demons, cigars, HAHAHA CMAHN
That's likely what David was going for
you gain armor from collecting coins. either you're a treasure hunter or a tax collector
If David's letting Dave shape the storytelling of Dusk then it's almost certainly canon at this point
Also that
It's also the only basis of an image you can give to dusk dude
btw jab actually confirmed on steam forumns that duskdude is going to have a proper identity that will be revealed
he wasnt shitposting either
Which is important for crap like fan art to help keep the game alive in the minds of people and crap like that
That's good to hear
or it's a completely different and unexpected reason
maybe ye
And then he was the cultists



