#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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delicate violet
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What are the name of those gals in ep 2 tho?

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They are definitely annoying af

opal plover
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Cowgirls?

mild ginkgo
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uh, no, you can definitely spawn monsters if you feel like it

clever wasp
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ah crap, was really hoping for the technical issue on that one

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that makes the black boxes rather odd, in hindsight

mild ginkgo
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no it doesnt?

delicate violet
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Let's make a room with 200 cowgirls then

mild ginkgo
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its as simple as "we would like you to know how many monsters are in the level"

crimson folio
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@delicate violet x10

clever wasp
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and spawning a monster on demand does not increase the kill target or anything ?

mild ginkgo
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yes it does

clever wasp
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might be a problem if the game gets something like the Icon of Sin then

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unless it has a trigger to kill everything else present on the map upon death I guess

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(bar the player of course)

mild ginkgo
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why would we ever put in icon of sin?

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also nah, the monster count is really well covered

clever wasp
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something like the Icon of Sin, not the actual Icon of Sin

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besides y'all have said you have a wall boss in the game

mild ginkgo
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no we havent

jade root
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lolwhat

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when did we say that

mild ginkgo
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i will deconfirm that right now

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there is no wall boss

clever wasp
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fairly sure I heard that at some point here

mild ginkgo
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if you were hoping for one

opal plover
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Nah David just sadi there's a part where you nee the mortar

mild ginkgo
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prepare to be disappointed

crimson folio
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Its Big Johns brother Jimmy

jade root
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the wall boss appears on e3ms3

crimson folio
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oof

opal plover
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Why would you belive the joke I made? lol

jade root
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its a giant middle finger on a billboard

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that says "fuck you dave oshry" backwards

crimson folio
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So .. e3ms2 & 3 come after e3m10 ?

rare musk
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the game doesn't end with a rehash of an infamously bad fight?

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refunded tbh

opal plover
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Anyway I'm still wondering what you'd need the mortar for

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In that one specific ep 3 area I mean

rare musk
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aoe damage, most likely

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because your only options for that are the xbow, the riveter and the mortar

mild ginkgo
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the wall boss is this

clever wasp
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the fuck is this

rare musk
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looks like some classic quality duke maps

crimson folio
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Isnt the mortar supposed to do ~ same damge as the riveter + more ammo ?

rare musk
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about average quality for a duke map tbh

jade root
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inside that sprite you have to hit another sprite

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spoilers

rare musk
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yeah, ammo concertns are important

mild ginkgo
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LOL

crimson folio
frozen heart
opaque spindle
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Holy shit

mild ginkgo
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i forgot about that already

rare musk
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why is frozen in retro-fortnight?

viral gate
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Man that was...

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Something.

clever wasp
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I'm tempted to ask "What the fuck", but I'm afraid someone might have an answer

opaque spindle
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What the fuck is that from

mild ginkgo
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its from a map jam around christmas

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i believe the map is called icequeen

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i played it like 2 weeks ago and lost my mind

rare musk
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oh no

opaque spindle
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huh

opal plover
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Yeah I member

rare musk
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that name shifts it from "probably ironic" to "very probably not"

viral gate
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Pretty alright maps

mild ginkgo
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it has frozen music as well

rare musk
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well I mean, what else do you play in the background during quake?

jade root
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strawberry crises

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from touhou 4

opal plover
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I play Linkin Park in the background when I play Quake

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It's grownup music

rare musk
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touhou quake when???

jade root
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i play chillmidi

opaque spindle
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I need to play this for m yself

opal plover
opaque spindle
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this looks so bizzare

mild ginkgo
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its like a 5 minute map

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not really worth the effort

opal plover
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Yeah

rare musk
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that playthrough looks like all you'd need to see, yeah

opal plover
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Anyway, about Dusk, who else thinks in E2M9 the twins should be removed, the son of intoxigator moved to E2MS and have a E1M9 style fight instead

mild ginkgo
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thats oddly specific

opaque spindle
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yeah very weirdly specific

clever wasp
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it's true that right now the secret levels are... less than good

opal plover
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No E2MS good

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And so is E1MS

clever wasp
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they're both pretty much like "Oh you found the secret exit, here is a 5mn waste of time for your efforts"

mild ginkgo
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what?

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what would you prefer them be?

jade root
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ah yes gamer phd time

clever wasp
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there is no reason to go to the secret levels, is what I mean

mild ginkgo
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genuinely curious

jade root
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because they are fun?

mild ginkgo
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thats the same as any retrofps

jade root
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e1ms is my favorite level

clever wasp
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there are no super early weapons, no unique enemies, or stuff like that

mild ginkgo
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theres no reason to go to the secret levels

opal plover
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Anyway my point is as the final non final boss fight in E2 the twins and son of intoxigator are pretty bad

jade root
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e1m10 of doom is the pointless level

opal plover
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Ah yes

jade root
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but its still fun

crystal vessel
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e2m10 is even more pointless

opal plover
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The super secret level of knee deep in the dead

opaque spindle
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entire game is pointless tbh

opal plover
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Why play vidya when you can work and get paid

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Wait were you talking about sewers @jade root ?

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From doom

rare musk
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don't worry, e3ms will have a purpose, how else are you supposed to find e3ms2,3 and 4?

jade root
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what

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no

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e1m10 is military base

crystal vessel
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e1m9

opaque spindle
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E3MS is going to be a 30 minute cutscene about Dusk Dude's cat

jade root
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wait fuck

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im getting the level names confused

opal plover
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heh

jade root
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REAGRDLESS there was no point for the secret levels of doom other than for finding them and having fun

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dusk is the same way

crystal vessel
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ye

opaque spindle
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yep

opal plover
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What's your point @clever wasp ?

jade root
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if you really need a progression system you can go play strafe, doom2016, or one of the zillion doom mods that have them

clever wasp
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I think secrets (be they levels or areas) should reward the players somewhat accordingly

opaque spindle
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They do

opal plover
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With fun

clever wasp
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not the levels

opaque spindle
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^

rare musk
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in doom they had a bit of a purpose if you were going pistol-start-on-death, as most of those levels left you with reasonable amounts of health and ammo, but really yeah

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their purpose was having an extra level

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usually a gimmicky different one

clever wasp
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idk, in Doom 64, one of the secret levels allows you to jump

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jump

opaque spindle
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well you can jump in all of Dusk

jade root
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man

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mod it in

opal plover
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What do you mean jump?

jade root
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d64

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map32

rare musk
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secret level removes your ability to jump

jade root
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if you beat it you were able to jump

opaque spindle
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secret level removes your abillity to jump and you can't look up or down

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for true "retro" experience

clever wasp
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see, I'd be down for this

delicate violet
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I agree that the secret levels in dusk should have some early weapon

clever wasp
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pain to speedrun, but I'd totally be down

delicate violet
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but they are well designed

opaque spindle
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The point of the secret levels is to have an extra level to have fun with

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thats the reward

rare musk
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secret level that gives you 6dof controls for the rest of the game

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(there's still gravity though)

delicate violet
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yeah, and I like that

clever wasp
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like honestly, as far as weapons go, why not move the swords to the secret levels in E1 and E2

opal plover
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^^^^

opaque spindle
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balancing

opal plover
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That I agree with though

jade root
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well technically you cant get the sword in e1 if you avoid secrets

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same for riveter

opal plover
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Yes

clever wasp
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same for E2, I can only see two swords in E2 off the top of my head, and one requires and OOB

crystal vessel
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What I'm seeing on that jump in d64 is that it's only in the TC

crimson folio
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drink some beers

opal plover
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Although only having the swords in secret levels would make it so there's less of a thief reference in E2M5

clever wasp
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@crystal vessel nah it's definitely in the og N64 version too

crimson folio
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and blast yur way

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through

jade root
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its 100% in the n64 version

clever wasp
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it also severely breaks the game

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like much more than Doom 1 or 2

crystal vessel
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All I know is it unlocks the features menu on n64. I don't remember a jump in that menu.

clever wasp
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it's definitely in the feature menu

rare musk
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I can see it breaking the game, yeah

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because the one thing I really remember about d64's level design was it being real fond of tiny fucking walls you'd logically be able to climb

crystal vessel
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Where is this jump

jade root
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made the first secret level easier

opal plover
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Well anyway about Dusk, I'd really be down with the sword oly being In E2MS and E1MS

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Outside of E3

crimson folio
opal plover
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David was talking about possibly making the swor be accesible earlier in E1 and 2

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So it would be perfect for E1MS

crimson folio
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Its the Rachel Secret were you first get it right ?

opal plover
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Technically a super secret

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E1M8 is where you first get it

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In a secret

fast wigeon
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does the current weapon placement really need changing

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we already know what all the weapons are anyway so it doesnt matter

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and people who get to play ep1-3 back to back on their first playthrough probably wont find stuff like the super secret until after they beat ep3

opal plover
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I mean why not change stuff

mild chasm
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It's really not that hard to find the sword in EP1

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Nor in EP2

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But it's super easy in EP1

fast wigeon
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cos i like being able to have all the weapons in each episode as soon as possible, if i know where to look

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especially in ep1

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i think ep1 is more designed to let you dick around more than it is for challenging combat

mild chasm
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I dunno it just doesn't feel right in my opinion to be able to get all the weapons so soon and so easily

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Even for an EP1

fast wigeon
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its only easy cos we know all the secrets like the back of our hands

mild chasm
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It's easy because it's easy

opal plover
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I mean if the sword was only in E1MS and E2MS you'd get it earlier in E1 and as soon in E2

fast wigeon
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no one is going to find the super secrets on their first playthrough

mild chasm
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I did

fast wigeon
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the vast majority of people then

mild chasm
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If you do secret hunting then you're going to find the crap easily in EP1

fast wigeon
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so you found the hidden sword room in e2m1 first time

clever wasp
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besides it can't hurt to give E*MS a reason to be a little more special

mild chasm
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I haven't played EP2 properly in quite a while but I do recall getting the sword very early on

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I was also talking about EP1 specifically anyways

fast wigeon
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you can get the sword in e2ms anyway

mild chasm
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EP2's secrets are far less obvious

fast wigeon
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the sword is in a secret in e2ms and in a secret in escher

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and without the super secret you dont get the sword until e1m8

opal plover
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Yup

fast wigeon
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the sword aint even that good its just sickles that eat up your morale, i dont see a reason to hold it back from people any further

mild chasm
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It can like three shot the duke brothers with charged strikes

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you're using it wrong

clever wasp
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DPS-wise if you're above 100 health it's pretty fucking better than most weapons tbqh

fast wigeon
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o ye its good on bosses

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cos of the charge strike

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and its good on cutty mines

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but thats about it, unless you cant time sickle parrys

mild chasm
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that'd be the reason to hold it off longer

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if you can just easily find a boss killer that trivializes the EP more

fast wigeon
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bosses are already trivial, sword decides whether it takes you a few seconds or a minute or 2

mild chasm
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Eh, david will do what david does

opal plover
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Thing is David/Dave implied they might make the sword accesible earlier now that it's fun

fast wigeon
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wha

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how can they really put it any earlier

mild chasm
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now you start with it, have fun

fast wigeon
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you get it in e2m1 and e1m2

opal plover
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Yeah but in official secrets

clever wasp
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you get sword in the menu

fast wigeon
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if theyre goin back and changing balancing like that they should make ep 1 just a little bit harder

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still have it be fairly easy as an introductory episode but just have a bit more challenge

opal plover
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Or have the start be as easy and ramp it up more

fast wigeon
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yeah

mild chasm
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Turn that ramp into a curve

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And turn that rump into a carve

mild ginkgo
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I wouldnt expect major weapon rearrangements

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i think we're pretty happy about where most of it lies

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like burrito said, rachaels secret will not be what the game will be balanced around

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most of the people who play the game will never find that

fast wigeon
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im p happy with current weapon placements anyway

mild ginkgo
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i think youll definitely see adjustments

fast wigeon
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so im glad they arent getting majorly revamped

mild ginkgo
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but i wouldnt expect major overhauls

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we'll find out though!

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and lets be really real, the sword is a novelty weapon in most of the game

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i dont think having it any earlier, later, easier, or harder, will make a big difference

fast wigeon
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yea, its basically an ssg with less range

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damage wise

mild ginkgo
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yeah, thats fairly accurate

clever wasp
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it's stronger than SSG tho

mild ginkgo
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not by much

clever wasp
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the charged one at least

mild ginkgo
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surprisingly

opal plover
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Well it's like legit in Ep3 right?

mild ginkgo
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yeah, it is

fast wigeon
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ye first wep u get

mild ginkgo
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i mean we force you to use it in e3m1

opal plover
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Especially against the one balls I guess

mild ginkgo
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the bone balls arent finished yet

fast wigeon
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o, they looked pretty finished

opal plover
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What is there to change?

fast wigeon
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whats not done

mild ginkgo
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they just arent really finished

opal plover
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Also the horrors spitting phlegm better not be a placeholder

mild chasm
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Do you mean to say that you don't even have the sickles in E3M1 or is that just inadvisable

mild ginkgo
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what youve seen of them was placeholder

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the horrors attacks are not placeholder

fast wigeon
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no u still start with sickles

opal plover
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Yes

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I like the idea of them spitting phlegm

mild ginkgo
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the horrors functionally play like duskworld opponents

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they move SUPER fast in circles

fast wigeon
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ooh

mild ginkgo
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and run up to your face and shotgun you with phlegm

fast wigeon
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do they bhop

mild ginkgo
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in cm you can basically be one shotted

fast wigeon
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nice

opal plover
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Yeah and have ranged and melee right?

mild ginkgo
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nah

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just the phlegm afaik

opal plover
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I swear I saw one stabbing a hound with it's arms

mild ginkgo
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just goofy animation

fast wigeon
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i thought they would work like melee enemies at first, since they kinda look a little like pinkies

mild ginkgo
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they almost are

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they rarely try to attack you from more than like 4 feet away

mild chasm
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So are they "that one annoying enemy" for dusk

mild ginkgo
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nah i would say that crown belongs to the cowgirl

mild chasm
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I never had trouble with the cowgirls

opal plover
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There are no cowgirls in Ep3 right?

mild ginkgo
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yeah i mean, the in total isnt necessarily hard

mild chasm
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But from the sounds of it I'm going to immediately eat crap and die when face to face with the horrors

mild ginkgo
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i wont confirm or deny , to keep you wondering

fast wigeon
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horrors sound p fun to fight

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i doubt there will be many of the ep2 enemies

mild ginkgo
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nah youll be fine against the horrors

fast wigeon
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we didnt see any scarecrows knocking about in ep2

opal plover
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Anyways Zombie said 6 enemies in Ep 3

mild ginkgo
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i said that

fast wigeon
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weve seen 6

opal plover
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I don't think the lil chompers count

mild chasm
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They are an enemy

mild ginkgo
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i mean we were counting them

fast wigeon
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i wonder if the chompers are just a one off thing

mild ginkgo
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but hey thats fine if you dont wanna

opal plover
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So other than the horrors what's the other monster that scared you 500?

mild ginkgo
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the horrors didnt scare me

fast wigeon
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its gonna be wendigos or scarecrows for sure

opal plover
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What's the monster that made you fall of your chair then?

mild ginkgo
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i cant reveal that currently

mild chasm
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Dopefish

fast wigeon
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ooohhhhh

opal plover
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This is absurd

fast wigeon
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so we got a new enemy

crisp lion
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  1. Horror
  2. Third-Stage Mage
  3. Cartdog
  4. Priestess
  5. Bone Monk
  6. Bone Ball
  7. Chomper Spawn
  8. Floating Flamed Gasmasks (poltergeists)
mild ginkgo
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nobody said that

fast wigeon
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unless it was a boss

opal plover
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You said we knew all about the monsters

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Boss

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Then

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I guess

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Or a wall texture

mild ginkgo
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i wont be confirming anything new here

crisp lion
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I'm pretty sure Smaller versions of The Guardian were planned, or were said to be around, or at least implied.

mild chasm
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Clearly it's a shambler with david's face on it's stomach

mild ginkgo
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those did exist, but have been scrapped

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long time ago

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episode 1 wasnt even out

opal plover
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And there were two monsters that scared you right 500?

mild ginkgo
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nah just one

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well two

opal plover
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Wasn't there one that scared you because you thought it was something else?

mild ginkgo
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big john strikes fear into me

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yeah

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thats the one

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made me fall out of my chair

opal plover
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Wait

mild ginkgo
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unforunately that moment was in an unfinished level

opal plover
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Was it really Big John

mild ginkgo
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no

fast wigeon
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ohh so it might be cut content

mild ginkgo
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right

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which is why i cant talk about it

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or it might be content you havent seen yet

crisp lion
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EP1 Bosses: M3 (Intoxigator) M7 (Duke Brothers) M10 (Experiments)
EP2 Bosses: M5 (Cowgirl), M6 (Big John), M9 (Son of Intox, Dual Cowgirls) and M10 (Guardian)

mild ginkgo
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either way, its not content we have revealed

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you missed the duke bros

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there we go

crisp lion
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Well they're a kind of forgettable boss tbh

mild ginkgo
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i keep forgetting about that one ep3 boss fuck

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i mean all the dusk bosses are forgettable

fast wigeon
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naa

mild ginkgo
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but thats because david isnt a boss fight guy

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and im cool with that

crisp lion
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Except the Big John and Absolute Unit-odile

fast wigeon
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experiments were memorable

mild ginkgo
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i mean their USE was memorable

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yeah

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the fight itself? meh

fast wigeon
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use?

mild ginkgo
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yeah

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the way they were used

fast wigeon
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o im dumv

mild ginkgo
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made it funny

fast wigeon
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i read it as like an acronym

mild ginkgo
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oh thank god i killed the boss

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press button

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OH SHIT

fast wigeon
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ye that moment was one of the best in the game

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and the secret was a good joke too

mild ginkgo
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my favorite moment is in e3m4

fast wigeon
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horror reveal?

mild ginkgo
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nah

fast wigeon
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ooo

mild ginkgo
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different moment

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well actually

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two moments

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same level

opal plover
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Falling into the gut pit?

fast wigeon
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could be the opening of the secret level

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since dave basically confirmed the entrance is in e3m4

opal plover
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Oh yeah there are a lot of possibilites for openings when it comes to flesh

fast wigeon
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oh dear

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someone pin that

opal plover
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To open the secret exit you have to interact with a hole in a flesh wall

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Just interact with it

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Nothing more

mild ginkgo
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sure we'll go with that

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whatever you think

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whatever keeps it hidden

opal plover
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I mean

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We still have E3MS2

clever wasp
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"So what we didn't tell you is that E3MS is some unspecified creature's gastrointestinal tract, guess where the level exit is"

fast wigeon
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dave flipped a switch that says "the basement door opens"

crisp lion
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E3MS2 is a meme created by Jab

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nuthin more

mild ginkgo
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thats the very beginning

fast wigeon
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ye but its a start

mild ginkgo
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the first thing you do in that level is open the basement

fast wigeon
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oh

mild ginkgo
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hence why you saw it happen

fast wigeon
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huh, why is the switch kinda hidden then

clever wasp
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because level design

mild ginkgo
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itll make sense when you play it

fast wigeon
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ohhh i see

mild ginkgo
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yeh, basically what bad64 said

opal plover
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Isn't it behind a colored door

fast wigeon
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it so you cant skip an encounter

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run past it rather

mild ginkgo
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it teaches you where your ultimate goal is first

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by hiding the switch you will find the red door first, then turn around and find the switch staring you in the face

fast wigeon
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ah

opal plover
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Yeah we all know what the ultimate goal in E3M4 is though

mild ginkgo
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well dave streamed it

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so yeah

fast wigeon
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i miss that kinda level design, where you have an immediate long term goal

clever wasp
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chomp-fish-whatever

fast wigeon
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and your not just moving forward for no reason

opal plover
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No I mean the REAL ultimate goal

mild ginkgo
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i mean thats what dusk is for right?

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bringing back the good level design principles of old

opal plover
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Yes

fast wigeon
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yeah

opal plover
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What about chomper Bad64

clever wasp
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I wonder if someone will find a way to spawn it without the water

opal plover
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Well yeah with the console

clever wasp
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fair enough

opal plover
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And it's not like it spawns in, it's like already in the water

mild ginkgo
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makes me curious what david could do if he was able to be JUST dedicated to level design

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and had environment artists, modellers, etc to take care of the rest

opal plover
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We'd get arcane duskmensions

mild ginkgo
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lol

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one day

clever wasp
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I mean that's not such a bad idea

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get a dude specialized in boss fights

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make a gauntlet at the end of the episode

opal plover
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Yeah like dusk would actually be perfect if the boss fights were better

mild ginkgo
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i mean i prefer that david has complete control of every aspect of dusk

opal plover
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Yeah that's just more coherent

mild ginkgo
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also yeah i mean, if you like bossfights, dusk isnt for you

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or i should say

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if youre in it for bossfights

clever wasp
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yep

#

that said it doesn't make Dusk a bad game or anything

mild ginkgo
#

no of course not

#

i dont think anyone calling dusk a bad game is being honest

clever wasp
#

you mean apart from people who judge the entire game based on graphics ?

#

they're honest... wrong, but honest

mild ginkgo
#

i mean graphics =/= the game

#

they can call the graphics bad, fine

#

its largely true

#

but thats not the game part of the game

prisma halo
#

I definitely wanna see a game after Dusk where David gets to go full ham as a level designer

mild ginkgo
#

^

prisma halo
#

Gets whatever assets he needs, and he just goes wild

mild ginkgo
#

hes got the touch for that

clever wasp
#

"So here's the first level, our internal TAS has a time of 7 minutes and 39 seconds on it"

#

"It only goes up from here"

#

eventually he just pulls a Metal Slug 3 and the last level of this hypothetical game is longer than the rest of the game put together

mild ginkgo
#

lol

crisp lion
#

David could shrink load times, and DUSK's file size by using .OGGs instead of .WAVs

vale oar
#

300+ messages guys

#

u r sick

prisma halo
#

Most of the sounds are OGGs

opal plover
#

But what about the ones that aren't

prisma halo
#

They're .wavs

#

but thinking using .ogg will improve load times is naive

#

very naive

#

.wav is raw data, so it can just be loaded into memory

#

no processing required

#

.ogg is compressed

#

so you need to decompress it

clever wasp
#

besides ogg is lossy

prisma halo
#

that too

clever wasp
#

not much, but it's lossy

prisma halo
#

That's why I'm opting for .flac as the main format in the SDK

#

best of both worlds imo

opal plover
#

Sweet

quiet rose
#

fuck t hat. use ape

prisma halo
#

.ogg is supported but I don't think we'll be shipping any of the actual game sounds as .ogg

quiet rose
#

member ape

#

i member

opal plover
#

Use MP3s

crisp lion
#

flacs fun and games till you end up with 21mb sound bites

prisma halo
#

Overblown problem imo

#

and one that can be solved

opal plover
#

I have no idea if that was a funny joke because I don't know the specificites of MP3s

vale oar
#

.oof

prisma halo
#

MP3 won't be supported

#

It's like a shitty version of OGG but proprietary

clever wasp
#

@opal plover basically MP3 is great for compatibility, but sucks for everything else

crisp lion
#

anyway, .MP3 pretty EH

#

pretty infamous compression IIRC

clever wasp
#

I don't remember why it got so popular in the first place, I know it used to be a completely proprietary format (which confuses me even more), but beyond that...

prisma halo
#

It got popular because it was the format of choice in the warez scene, afaik

clever wasp
#

it kind of was better than .wav if you wanted one of those portable music players, but that's about it

quiet rose
#

Because every digital store jumped on it due to getting hte license to use it was cheap as fuck back then

#

and warez

crisp lion
#

Shit like Mobile Phones and Ipods and their small space caps as well.

clever wasp
#

wasn't ogg already a thing at that point ?

#

Ogg was created in what, 99 ?

quiet rose
#

mp3 was more convenient and supported by more platforms.

clever wasp
#

platform issues couldn't have been the problem back then

quiet rose
#

But they were.

#

Many portable audio players only supported WMA/MP3 at the time

clever wasp
#

I mean someone had to code the support for the MP3 format at some point, why not OGG since it wasn't much more costly ? (or even free, I don't remember the license details)

quiet rose
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

clever wasp
#

it's like the issue with games on Linux

#

want more games that run natively ? get more people to use Linux

#

wanna get more people to use Linux ? get games running natively

crisp lion
#

.flac is royalty free, so you'd expect it would be more popular nowadays, then some underground meme format

prisma halo
#

or at least used in place of .wav

clever wasp
#

the thing is, it's pretty hard breaking an established base

#

even if you bring something better to the table

vale oar
#

lmao

fast wigeon
graceful wing
#

sooner than you might think

fast wigeon
#

ooo

#

im gonna guess halloween release date but i wouldnt be surprised at all if it came out in december

graceful wing
#

no comment

slate edge
#

Well, only 3 months left in 2018 so I think if its true, a soonโ„ข may be in order.

fast wigeon
#

na it was soon back in february

#

now its actually soon

#

and the beta branch will be even sooner

mild chasm
fast wigeon
#

shit

graceful wing
fast wigeon
#

nice

woeful plover
#

RIP

#

F

vale oar
#

lmao

mild chasm
#

Come on, come on, do it. Do it! Come on, do it now!

graceful wing
#

k

mild chasm
#

Thanks, avainman

vale oar
#

girly man

#

yughaha

#

Developer turned himself into Big John.

#

DUSK is cancelled.

fast wigeon
#

david transferred his conciousness into the game and now he is big john for the rest of eternity

#

its why big john is so eager to die

crimson folio
#

hi

fast wigeon
#

yo

crimson folio
#

how's it going?

vale oar
#

hi

crimson folio
#

hello!

shut mesa
#

hi

#

hello

#

salutations

wheat zinc
#

<3

robust cedar
#

HYPE

#

then we can get on to episode 4 and Super Dusk Racer

mild chasm
#

Nope, HDusk

#

Gotta make Jizzus happy

fast wigeon
#

brutual dusk when hmm?????????

mild chasm
#

Brutual

vale oar
#

hopefully never

fast wigeon
#

yea

fair mirage
#

hopefully immediately after the sdk releases

vale oar
#

but we all know it's inevitable

fast wigeon
#

depends on how well the game does tbh

#

i cant see it getting huge total conversions and overhauls if the game stays niche

vale oar
#

the game won't do "well" or "not well", because it's canceled

#

:C

#

let's go home bois

fast wigeon
#

finally

mild chasm
#

I mean it was already confirm dead

#

I had a totally not edited picture as proof and everything

vale oar
#

๐Ÿค”

fast wigeon
#

i cant wait for this server to just completely blow up once 1.0 drops

robust cedar
#

won't happen the server will be cancelled too

fast wigeon
#

aw

vale oar
#

I guess the serer will blow up earlier

#

once ep3 betatest starts

fast wigeon
#

only people who are already in the server will probably know about the beta test

vale oar
#

I still can remember December 25

fast wigeon
#

dusk was feautured on steam store when ep 2 came out right

#

like the background of the store was dusk

#

i think if they do that again, thats what will bring in the new people

vale oar
#

prolly

mild chasm
#

I never thought about that

#

On one hand that'd be great

#

on the other, having that many people would quickly become a nightmare

tired whale
#

you're right foster, we should keep our club sekrit

clever wasp
#

not everyone who buys the game will come on Discord yaknow

tired whale
#

sales r bad!

mild chasm
#

I mean New Blood hates money

clever wasp
#

clearly not as much as some other AAA companies I can name

tired whale
#

money sux tbh

mild chasm
#

Dave blends it all up at the end of the month and then drinks it

vale oar
#

The Oshdrink

crimson folio
#

Drincc the liquid

#

Is it conk or bepis

delicate sail
#

Did David mention for how long he's gonna be on vacation?

amber drift
#

forever and ever

#

dusk canceled

#

again

fast wigeon
#

na he didnt mention

#

i cant image it being more than a week or two tho

delicate sail
#

Cool. Just saw someone asking him and then didn't continue following the conversation

fast wigeon
#

o

#

maybe he did

delicate sail
#

Nah, can't find anything, guess the question just got lost in the flood of posts. I mean it's also quite private info

vale oar
#

^

#

what if David is actually making E3MS2

delicate sail
#

But seeing that m1-9 are pretty much crit makes me wonder how close we actually are to release. ๐Ÿ˜ Hope he has a great time relaxing and getting ready for that last stretch.

amber drift
#

the most relaxing thing ever is canceling dusk

vale oar
#

DON'T SHOOT THE BUTTONS GUYS

fast wigeon
#

i want e3ms2 to be real

vale oar
#

same

fast wigeon
#

but im almost certain its a shitpost

mild chasm
#

I keep trying to click it but all it does is enlarge, anyone got a fix?

vale oar
#

sure it is - it's jab goddamit

fast wigeon
#

no ones denied it tho

graceful wing
#

the episode 3 secret level(s) is crazy!

fast wigeon
#

which is why im not completely certain

vale oar
#

"the episode 3 secret level(s) is (are) crazy!"

#

makes sense

#

E3MS is just that weird secret level from ROTT13

#

kinda fits ep3's style xD

mild chasm
#

E3MS2 and MS3 are just the first one but with different bosses entirely replacing the enemies

vale oar
#

fuck

#

that would be amazing

#

(no)

clever wasp
#

can you imagine

#

Mamas everywhere in the level

#

you walk into a room, then get grenaded from 9 different angles

fast wigeon
#

i actually wouldnt be surprised if the secret level was like a slaughter map

#

cos its gonna be the hardest level in the game

#

either that or e3m9

vale oar
#

๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค”

fair mirage
#

god DAMMIT viscont always spoiling shit

clever wasp
#

i need to play that game someday

vale oar
#

kek

clever wasp
#

both the original and the 2013 version

vale oar
#

^

fast wigeon
#

im watching that video and ive never played rott

#

what the fuck is going on

vale oar
#

fuck must go on

tired whale
#

escape from the vomitorium
does it mean uninstalling ROTT?

vale oar
#

It means cancelling it

#

OH WAIT...

clever wasp
#

cancel EVERYTHING

tired whale
#

that'd be preventing the vomitorium

clever wasp
#

cancel cancellations for ultimate cancellation

vale oar
#

lmao "Dusk: The Ultimate Collection Cancellation"

fast wigeon
#

was that vomitorium level in the original rott

#

in some form

#

or is it completely new for the remake

tired whale
#

yes, it was every level ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

crimson folio
#

Double negatives are positive

vale oar
#

Constellation of Cancellation

clever wasp
#

this should be the tagline of the big box edition of Dusk

crimson folio
#

Therefore dusk is super getting released

clever wasp
#

seriously, picture this, you get your Duskbox, and there is a giant "CANCELLED" sticker on it

vale oar
#

not big box edition

#

Big JOHN edition goddamit

#

fuckin hereticz

clever wasp
#

H E R E T I C

mild chasm
#

That seems like a gag the folks over at Running With Scissors would do

clever wasp
#

nah Big John Edition will be Dusk + all dlc expansion packs, two years down the line

mild chasm
#

Dusk: Piso Mojado Expansion
Dusk: Mountains of Madness Expansion
Dusk: Mystic Memes Expansion

jade root
#

Hey if you don't think E3MS2 is real thats fine, but I guess that means you'll be the one guy who isn't gonna look for it and will be left out on all the fun

mild chasm
#

Do you take us for amateurs

vale oar
#

^

mild chasm
#

clearly we won't believe your bullcrap but will look for it anyways

vale oar
#

Jabronii-chicken

jade root
#

I do take you for amateurs

#

Cause y'all got some fuckin stupid ideas

mild chasm
#

Then when it is not real we will flex upon ye

graceful wing
#

wait which secret level are we talking about here?

clever wasp
#

this is sure to lead to a lot of teabagging in DW methinks

mild chasm
#

By that I mean flex seal, we're going to plug your holes with flex seal

jade root
#

The second one in e1

vale oar
#

We are talkin about non-existing secret level

#

HOW CLEVER

graceful wing
#

has anyone actually found it yet?

#

e1ms3

vale oar
#

Jab has

jade root
#

No lol

#

Cause they think the secret levels are pointless

#

So they don't play em

graceful wing
#

it's the most epic part in the game though

jade root
#

Lain shows up in game and dabs

vale oar
fast wigeon
#

i thought we were talkin about e11ms11

jade root
#

Then you gotta dodge 500 bullets

graceful wing
#

no more, no less

jade root
vale oar
#

Then you gotta dodge 500 pts

opaque spindle
#

e1ms4 is so fucking fun

graceful wing
#

then you unlock the secret graze mechanic for the rest of the game

opaque spindle
#

too bad no one here has found it yete

#

doubt you will its really hidden

serene needle
#

wait

#

there's another secret level?

jade root
#

depends on who you ask

graceful wing
#

i have no idea what you're talking about

serene needle
#

i'm going to look around every nook and cranny

mild chasm
#

If you ask Jab he'll tell you whatever you want to hear as long as it leads to you making a fool out of yourself for his amusement

serene needle
#

knowing him he is prob pulling my leg

tired whale
#

jab would never lie

mild chasm
#

Otherwise it's just mad ramblings involving something called twowho

tired whale
#

he isn't smart enough to lie

mild chasm
#

He is smart enough to not tell you the truth for his own gain though

tired whale
#

and yes, he keeps ranting about some tofu for some reason

serene needle
#

oof

vale oar
#

don't listen to Jab

#

DON'T

serene needle
#

that ui update tho

vale oar
#

this should be written on the wall somewhere in ep3

#

"DON'T LISTEN 2 JAB"

serene needle
#

then there's also going to be

#

"FIND E1MS2"

vale oar
#

Yup

jade root
#

which jab?

#

Jab or JabS2

serene needle
crimson folio
#

Oh no

#

83 hours isnโ€™t very long

serene needle
#

I had more on the ep1+2 but they didn't carry over

vale oar
serene needle
#

it was atleast 100 on that one

crimson folio
#

I have over 600 hours on my disc version of Age of Empires 2

#

Does that count for anything towards Dusk

serene needle
#

so "JabS2", which ep is this second secret mission?

jade root
#

nobody has denied e3ms2, including scott who hates me so

vale oar
#

stop bullshittin us Jab ๐Ÿ˜›

jade root
#

so idk what yall going assy for

#

i think the only thing more real than e3ms2 is how much scott hates me

fair mirage
#

aw come on i give you shit 24/goddamn7 how does he hate you more than me

jade root
#

cause hes not a lil bitch

crimson folio
#

Are the episodes going to get another secret level?

jade root
#

i dont know

vale oar
#

okay guys I've just found E3MS2 and it sucks

#

obviously it was designed by Jab

delicate sail
#

Are there gonna be any more music sample releases planned before Ep3 hits?

vale oar
#

hope they'll give us that magnificent Blasphemy track

fast wigeon
#

im still waiting for the e2m1 and e1m10 tracks

jolly mirage
#

i just convinced @rocky solar to give you Money

rocky solar
#

stopp tater tot

jolly mirage
#

Can I get a reward?

rocky solar
#

lain will probably give you anime

#

because he is weeb

vague egret
vale oar
#

weebHammer raised

rocky solar
#

XD

#

#WeebsRiseUp

vale oar
#

Lainator 3: Rise of the Weebs

mild chasm
#

Hold the weeben hammer high

#

and then drop it on your fragile weeb skull so it jellies your freakin' spinal column

#

Also the two things that most excite me about dusk are the modding potential and the soundtrack

#

Midified soundtrack mod for Dusk when

vale oar
#

NOT SOONโ„ข

steady aurora
#

I wonder if release will be Halloween or sometime around there.

vale oar
#

maaaybeeee

#

and maybe not

steady aurora
#

Just watched the live stream again, oh man it's so good

vale oar
#

ironically

#

I'm doing that rite now lmao

steady aurora
#

Wow, very coincidental

#

Seriously my fav part is probably the music at the end of the preview

vale oar
#

I don't have any fav parts tbh, just wanna fuckin PLAY it ๐Ÿ™‚

steady aurora
#

Well sounds realistic enough tothetop

vale oar
#

yeah

delicate violet
#

What if Duskguy gets in smash bros

sly path
#

That'd be kinda funny but he does have two giantwounds in his back so Nintendo probably wouldn't allow it.

clever wasp
#

they do allow some pretty creepy stuff from time to time

#

Mario getting his head crushed in the Ridley reveal trailer, for one

#

the Villager

#

just the fucking Villager

#

all of it

sly path
#

Eh I don't think they'd allow outright gore.

clever wasp
#

also debatably some finer points of the Castlevania stage hazards

delicate violet
#

Luigi getting killed on camera

sly path
#

Remember, these wounds are very fresh and open.

clever wasp
#

either way, Nintendo has other characters to add for the time being

#

mostly clones-- sorry, "Echo Horseshit"

delicate violet
#

I keep wondering

#

Would Nintendo put Dusk in one of their indies direct?

clever wasp
#

consider this

#

they gave five seconds to one of their most highly anticipated ports this year (DBFZ)

#

and it's a triple A

#

FIVE GODDAMNED SECONDS.

#

almost as if the Switch had no video games besides Zelda and Mario ๐Ÿค”

sly path
#

The more ports the better imo.

clever wasp
#

yeah I mean, it's not like they released a console with only one game

#

right

#

no one would be stupid enough for that

#

I mean it's not like the target audience would buy the console based on that single game en masse

#

game that, of all things, is technically a port of a game that should have been released on their previous generation

sly path
#

There's plenty of exclusives and ports either way.

clever wasp
#

I guess what I'm ultimately trying to say is that you should never, ever rely on either Nintendo or Nintendo Fanboys obeying basic logic

sly path
#

Sure it's launch line up was shoddy at best but we have a lot of games now.

clever wasp
#

why do you feel the need to insult the concept of shoddiness by attaching it to the Switch's launch lineup

#

that's mean, man

delicate violet
#

Yeah but DBFZ is shit

#

Dusk is good

amber drift
#

you shut your whore mouth

#

DBFZ is a national treasure

clever wasp
#

DBFZ is easily one of the best fighting games to have been released these past two years

delicate violet
#

Play UNIST of you want a good fighting game

#

DBFZ is shit

amber drift
#

not playing MUGEN

clever wasp
#

I'm sorry, this is not how you spell Killer Instinct

#

or King of Fighters XIV for that matter

delicate violet
#

KI is ok, KoF is good

clever wasp
#

or literally any fighting game that isn't Street Fighter V

delicate violet
#

Play guilty gear or UNIST if you want something good

amber drift
#

DBFZ is fun and is the best video game adaptation of the IP to date

#

they got all the little details

#

down to the terrible lip sync

delicate violet
#

DBFZ is shit thats why Dusk deserves more attention

clever wasp
#

DBFZ also beats the ever loving fuck out of Marvel vs Capcom Infinite

amber drift
#

more like mvc infinitely unplayed by me

#

because there's no wolverine

crimson folio
#

ewww you guys stink

amber drift
#

it's not MvC without BERSERKER BARRAGE

clever wasp
#

MVCI is just a trainwreck from start to finish

delicate violet
#

MvCI has better gameplay but worse presentation

amber drift
#

it has no berserker barrage

fair mirage
#

that's a weird way to spell dusk

amber drift
#

and is therefore garbage

delicate violet
#

DBFZ is shit in terms of gameplay but has amazing presentation

amber drift
#

dbfz is fine

fair mirage
#

what update're you guys playin

delicate violet
#

The one that has episode 4

#

Its switch exclusive tho

vale oar
#

oh no

#

Dusk now has 4 episodes and it's switch exclusive

#

๐Ÿ˜ฑ

fair mirage
#

it's exclusive

#

but to one person's switch

#

so i guess you're not wrong

#

for now

vale oar
#

๐Ÿค”

sly path
#

The ultimate DUSK.

#

Now includes a bad non canon episode by Dave.

vale oar
#

lol

jade root
#

lmao dave only knows how to use UE3

#

so get ready for that UE3 port

sly path
#

He'll learn Unity eventually so he can make Episode 4.

vale oar
#

Dave will ruin the game by putting memes everywhere

jade root
#

ep4 will just be his learning levels

#

get ready for such classic levels like "chur" "chur2" "hahayes" "chur3" and "oshry2"

sly path
#

Episode 4 will start off with a hard as balls opening level called Chur City.

jade root
#

300 cowgirls in room 1

#

all you get is a pistol and a gold coin

vale oar
#

fuck

sly path
#

Yup that sounds like thy flesh consumed to me.

jade root
#

thy flesh aint bad

#

it has some charm to it

#

mainly in the aesthetic

vale oar
#

Thy flesh's in the Crypt ๐Ÿ˜‰

jade root
#

and in e3ms2

#

not e3ms1 tho

vale oar
#

NO NOT AGAIN PLZ

sly path
#

I also can't wait for DUSK 2 where Leon has to make a level in two hours.

delicate violet
#

What bout E3MS2

jade root
#

btw each secret level is important if you want the real ending

vale oar
#

screw ya jab

#

that's not funny lol

jade root
#

each level has a cult key used to unlock a door on e3m10

sly path
#

The final boss of DUSK 2 is also just Leon in a Chinese food box.

vale oar
#

...

jade root
#

3 keys total but you dont know which of the six secret levels will have one

vale oar
#

Okay: Metal Dusk Solid 2: Amid Evil - the final boss is Leon hiding in a Chinese food cardboard box

jade root
#

and the best part is that you can only access one secret level per ep

#

chose wisely!

#

or you wont get the real ending

#

where duskdude is revealed

vale oar
#

:coolstorybob:

sly path
#

I can't wait to watch Jab eat a sandwich in 320x200 CGA

jade root
#

the credits is just me eating a hamsandwich with mayo

#

(i hate mayo)

#

(so youll see me suffer)

vale oar
#

finally

sly path
#

You also see Jab eating Spaghetti.

#

He hates Spaghetti so you'll see him suffer even more.

jade root
#

and then at the end of the video dave fucking KILLS me and dumps my body in a river with text on the screen saying "better luck next time onii-chan"

#

im fine with spaghet, just dont put sauce on it

vale oar
#

oof

fair mirage
#

wtf is the point of spaghetti without sauce

jade root
#

easy

#

butter sauce with cheese

fair mirage
#

sauce

#

eh

#

HM

jade root
#

but that tomato sauce with beef

flat juniper
#

I used to eat it like that when I was 9

fair mirage
jade root
#

blegh

flat juniper
#

I'm 10 now

jade root
#

wow

#

you sure grew up

flat juniper
#

Yeah, me big boi

jade root
#

did you know people born in 2010 are now 34? feel old yet?

flat juniper
#

oof

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Im living in 2018 while you live in 2044

sly path
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Did you know people born in the 90s are all over a hundred.

jade root
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the 2090s yeah

sly path
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The 1890s that is, 1990s kids all died of a lack of Genesnes

vale oar
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Hey guys i'm from 1893 and Dusk ep3 is not out yet

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OH WAIT....

flat juniper
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I died from Geonosis

sly path
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I contacted polio.

flat juniper
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And nada?

sly path
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No, just polio and cholera.

fair mirage
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how're they doin?

sly path
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They're okay, they just have polio though.

fair mirage
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(it's contracted btw)

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(also this ain't dusk talk)

flat juniper
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Yikes, it's so hard to differentiate between channels anymore lmao

sly path
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Typing on mobile is hard okay.

fair mirage
sly path
delicate violet
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I'm from 2020

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Ep3 became an xbone exclusive

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While ep4 is just for the switch and zeebo

vale oar
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fuck

sly path
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Episode 5 comes out on the Sega master system.

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New Blood wanted that Brazil money.

jolly mirage
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i'm from 2035

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Dusk has been removed from every single platform

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they only way to play it now is on the V Smile

sly path
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And the Master System because those are still made in Brazil in 2035

jolly mirage
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also

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Dusk PS Triple port when?

vale oar
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2075

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confirmed

jolly mirage
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also

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If you think about it

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Atari 2600s and Sega Genesiss are still being made in america

sly path
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I guess?

jolly mirage
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so Dusk Genesis and Dusk 2600 confirmed

sly path
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DUSK for NES classic.

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There should be a plug and play just for DUSK.

jolly mirage
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yes

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One of these

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but for Dusk

sly path
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One of those but with a full keyboard and mouse just for DUSK.

rare musk
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Nah, trackball and like 4 buttons

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just like that quake machine

jolly mirage
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Dusk Tiger Electronics version

sly path
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DUSK oscilloscope edition.

jolly mirage
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Dusk TI 83 Edition

fair mirage
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ze's got the real ideas

jolly mirage
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also we got a second version of the arcade machine

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exept this time

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wait for it

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Its displayed in Vector Graphics

sly path
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DUSK table top edition.

jolly mirage
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remember those projector games in malls

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that you use your feet to play

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they should make Dusk for that

sly path
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Yeah.

jolly mirage
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and it almost never responds

sly path
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DUSK bus edition.

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Wait wait, DUSK toaster edition boom now we've done it.

jolly mirage
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Dusk Microwave edition

sly path
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Toast a bagel while playing DUSK.

jolly mirage
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Dusk Edition Edition

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double Edition for Double the home appliances

slate edge
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Susk

sly path
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DUSK John Madden edition.

jolly mirage
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Dusk Billboard Edition available on your local highway

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also that goes by a different name its 'Avain Madden 94'

sly path
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DUSKcraft

jolly mirage
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Dusk Minecraft parody

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we add minecraft lyrics to the games OST

sly path
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DUSK is already a Minecraft clone TBH.

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Look at those pixels.

slate edge
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Minecraft is a doom clone

sly path
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Nuh uh Doom is a Minecraft clone.

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Did you know that Notch tried making a Doom source port?

amber drift
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knee-deep in the oof

jolly mirage
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Everybody be saying: Dusk is a minecraft or Doom clone

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me an intellectual: Dusk is a Baldi's Basics Clone

sly path
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It's really a Madden clone TBH.

jolly mirage
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Its obvious

sly path
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DUSK is a Super Mario Bros 2 clone.

jolly mirage
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Dusk is a ripoff of Amid Evil

slate edge
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Amid Evil is a rip off of boss baby

jolly mirage
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Boss Baby is a ripoff of the Emoji Movie