dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[clever wasp]

ye

[vale oar]

LOTS of

And massive spoilers

[delicate sail]

ye

[winged otter]

hmm im thinking of now watching any gameplays of Dusk intil release because....spoilers, duh

as for AE i propably dont play last 2 episodes in early acess for same reasons

[molten peak]

same. the joy of E2 was seeing everything for the first time

[vale oar]

well they didn't spoil the coolest moments in ep2

like in ep3 yet

Dave skipped the whole level yesterday

[clever wasp]

on that note I wonder if E3M3 is completable at all without ever raising the water

like with clever rocket jumps

[vale oar]

Sure it is

[clever wasp]

cause fuck water in general

[vale oar]

Looks like the underwater combat will be MUCH harder cause of the limited movement

[winged otter]

water in Dusk is fun because duskguy has unlimited air supply

[vale oar]

You can't HUP under water tho

[clever wasp]

^ for starters

[vale oar]

And those Monks' fireballs....

[clever wasp]

and also I'm part of the people who still have nightmares about old 3D games' water sections

[vale oar]

lmao

[clever wasp]

Dire Dire Docks, anytime Lara Croft touched a body of water more than thigh-deep, and a few others I've surely forgotten due to old age

lemme tell you, when a pal of mine offered me to test Subnautica, I was not okay

[vale oar]

lmao

I still member some issues with gettin outta water in Blood, man, that was fucking frustrating

[fast wigeon]

dire dire docks was ok

the hard part wasnt the underwater section

and jolly roger bay was great

i think daggerfall takes the cake for worst underwater sections tho

[clever wasp]

JRB is ass in a can when you're speedrunning

so's Clanker's Cavern from BK to be honest

[acoustic oriole]

at least DUSK gets rid of one of the most frustrating things about underwater levels, limited air. It's hard to find your way underwater, but at least you can take your time in DUSK

[crimson folio]

👀

[clever wasp]

no

[delicate violet]

No

We gonna go full MGS2

[clever wasp]

la li lu le lo

[delicate violet]

Underwater level

With shitty movement

Limited air

And is an escort mission to boot

[clever wasp]

there were worse points in the game

I need to replay it some day

only finished it once, compared to the 30+ times I did MGS3

[crimson folio]

@clever wasp

[delicate violet]

What if big boss is dusk guy too

[crimson folio]

Gami_g

[vale oar]

bigboss yea

[clever wasp]

so Duskdude's the one The Boss keeps talking about

[vale oar]

thats me

[fast wigeon]

if i made some dusk art do i put it in here or in artists corner

[opaque spindle]

in #general-art

[delicate violet]

Is Big John coming back?

[mild chasm]

You killed him, girly man

[delicate violet]

fuck

[flat juniper]

Maybe we fight his wife, Large Jane

[cerulean sun]

if ep3 was out sooner i was going to submit to AGDQ

but looking more like SGDQ now

[mild ginkgo]

when is the submission deadline?

[zenith lynx]

damn dudes

this game the shit

now im going back to hell installing all my classic fps

Dusk hits that note!

[mild ginkgo]

good!

episode 3 SOON

did you finish episode 2?

[zenith lynx]

nope, had to stop, brother at the house

you got another buyer with im ^^

him*

im in e2m2

[mild ginkgo]

oh ok

episode 2 gets CRAZY

i cant wait to hear what you think

[zenith lynx]

From what ive seen, level design seems more vertical already

with jump pads leading to multiple high spots. I love that. Music seems even better lol.

I really enjoyed the last couple levels in E1. Pacing seems to mix shorter levels with lots of sudden action and levels that are more about exploring. Mixing things up is important and you got that for sure

[mild ginkgo]

episode 2 starts pretty slow, but the pace gets REALLY ramped up

[zenith lynx]

i'll let you know for sure about E2 when done. Also, some secrets look to be very well hidden, considering my low % with them lol

i'll replay the whole thing anyway multiple times already to learn them all

Perfect game for speed runners too

[mild ginkgo]

yeah the speedrunners love it

[delicate violet]

The secrets are a very cool thing in Dusk

I've refused to look how to find them, so me discovering E1MS last week made my day

[zenith lynx]

lol yeah

Discovering secrets yourself is so much better

Some insane ones in old school doom wads... maps could tkae hours xD

[delicate violet]

Or years, it wasn't too long ago when people discovered one last secret in doom 2

[zenith lynx]

haha yeah

man, im modding since a hour, deleting the game for fresh installation etc.. I just wanna play 😦

[grand hearth]

I got a key code at pax west and I don’t know how to activate it

Also I got 127 kills in endless on my 7th attempt

Can anyone help me activate it

[crimson folio]

do you have steam?

[grand hearth]

Yes

[crimson folio]

then add it through there

library->add a game->activate

[grand hearth]

Oh ok thank you so much

[crimson folio]

s'all good

[opaque spindle]

Thanks for that Wartorn

[crimson folio]

[grand hearth]

Did it

[opaque spindle]

Have fun

[thin sphinx]

ON THE PEOPLE not dsicovering doom2 last secret for years

that is major technicality

TLDR it was bugged where you could find the secret

you would get teleported before you could activate it

[crisp lion]

wrong

it was intentional, romero confirmed that on his FB

[opaque spindle]

That ain't Dusk

[amber drift]

here comes the fun police

making sure there's no fun

[opaque spindle]

[graceful wing]

enforcing the server policy

[slate edge]

looking forward to Susk

[vale oar]

to suck?

[slate edge]

Yes

jk

[steady aurora]

Succ

[crimson folio]

Did you know Dusk is very good game but it never actually existed it’s just an illusion created by the government to test out experimental memes

[vale oar]

refunding NOW

[fast wigeon]

i just thought

a while ago david was saying that ep3 will have a monster that puts the mortar to good use

and u can see the floating soldier heads in the reveal trailer

what if ep3 has a lost soul type enemy

[steady aurora]

Possible tentacles too

[slate edge]

owo

[crimson folio]

you do see the horros in Blasphemy

slick dudes

[fast wigeon]

im surprised the horrors were ranged enemys tbh

i thought they would be melee since they kinda look like pinkys

[crimson folio]

I'd be open to some A̶r̶c̶h̶v̶i̶l̶e̶s̶ new enemy types.

[fast wigeon]

i dont think they have enough balls to make an archvile type enemy

theyre makin the game p accessible and the archvile is the opposite of accessible

[crimson folio]

(Kinda unrelated, but what was that wad with an Archvile maze? 🤔 )

[fast wigeon]

plutonia

[crimson folio]

` \ (º _ º) / ´ (idk how to do the og)

[slate edge]

Archvile is a shitpost of an enemy.

[fast wigeon]

plutonia had a level that was entirely archviles in a literal corridor maze

revenents and chaingunners are the true shitpost enemies

fuckin scythe 2 has so many revenants but i dont mind cus i like fightin em

[crimson folio]

Gami_g

[fast wigeon]

can we just allow doom discussion in the dusk channel

[slate edge]

only if its brutal

[fast wigeon]

because the amount of times ive seen dusk conversation turn to doom conversation is too many to count

[slate edge]

jk

[fast wigeon]

and then the mods come in and #gami_g then the conversation dies

[crimson folio]

Brutal Dusk

Make it happen.

[slate edge]

H-Susk

[crimson folio]

Soon

[vague egret]

only if its somehow relevant to dusk
you may not think so but its important to keep the channels on topic as much as possible

[crimson folio]

anyways

[fast wigeon]

yea i totally understand why u gotta keep em on topic

[crimson folio]

Balsamphany

hum Blasphemy

[fast wigeon]

just wish there was a compromise between killing convos and keeping shit on topic

[vague egret]

gotta draw the line somewhere. the line is stay on topic

[slate edge]

Meh, Dusk`s enemy line-up is solid enough.

[crimson folio]

ye

Anything Else:

-Mod it In ™

Maybe I can mod Dusk enemies in Skyrim.

XD

use ultra low end mod with them

A mod that turns down the polys would be better.

[clever wasp]

turn the enemies into sprites

[shut mesa]

there's a mod that turns skyrim into a n64 game basically

[clever wasp]

isn't that just the console version

[shut mesa]

Xd

[crimson folio]

When I was really young I thought game Sprites were backed by the Sprite company and that they owned games with Sprites in them.

[mild ginkgo]

lol

[crisp lion]

dude wat

[clever wasp]

hey, we all believed dumb shit back then

[crimson folio]

I was 4.

[clever wasp]

I thought my Street Fighter 2 opponents were real players connected to my snes via the electrical grid

[crimson folio]

woke

[clever wasp]

turns out I wasn't super far off of the concept of what we now call netplay

but still, pretty stupid in hindsight

[crimson folio]

You must've thought you were legendary.

[clever wasp]

nah I was shit at the game because I played Zangief

[opaque spindle]

#gami_g my dudes

[slate edge]

Dusk roleplay server when

[opaque spindle]

Tomorrow at 4

[crisp lion]

DUSKWorld is just larping the war between the military and cult before duskdude fucks em all up.

[fast wigeon]

release date confirmed

[crisp lion]

2022? 🤔
So people were right, the apocalypse will happen before DUSK ep3.

biggly oof

[vale oar]

LMAO

pin this plz

[steady aurora]

soon is, well, it's coming

[vale oar]

I have a lil bit different info on that....

it's in russian partly, sorry

1915 guys

we missed DUSK's First Encounter

[crisp lion]

viscont is russian?

explains the shitposting tbh

[vale oar]

yey

[steady aurora]

so soon, was then

soon has passed

damn this is getting philosophical

[vale oar]

We have to wait for Dusk's second encounter

[steady aurora]

Time to travel back in time, get Marty Mc-fly in here

[vale oar]

Yup.

[steady aurora]

shit this means that Big John will be back

[vale oar]

Fun fact

Bone Monks' attack sound is actually low-pitched Fork Maidens' attack sound

[delicate violet]

Huh

That is neat

[opal plover]

@fast wigeon I think the horrors have two attack animations like the revenants

I think I saw a part where they tried stabbing another enemy with their arms

[crisp lion]

There should be a DUSKupdate twitter account

Just so daily EP3 Soon memes can be spammed

[dim valve]

there is

but i can't link it because oshry spams too much rule 1 hot takes

[crimson folio]

🙏

[mild chasm]

Yeah dave is a lot more politically charged than I expected him to be

[molten peak]

Twitter is a wild west saloon

[vague egret]

more often than not, you guys are informed of things before twitter or other sources

legit first to know

[jade root]

Thank you foster I can do a good meme with that message

[mild chasm]

I'm not sure I see the meme potential

but okay

[jade root]

dave says hes not political

a lot

anyway i sleep

[crisp lion]

WRONG

You'll see what I mean, but it's too spicy for NB naturally.

[crimson folio]

😮

👀

[crisp lion]

owo raise eyebrow at david's potential comment

[crimson folio]

😁 🙏

[thorn trout]

quick unofficial Episode 3 update: Crits are pretty much finished for M1-M9 (there may still be some slight tweaks for for all intents and purposes they're ready). I'm trying to finish up some stuff that I've left hanging before I leave with the family on the 6th, so when I get back we'll basically have the boss and a story polish pass to do before Ep3 is considered done. After that there are a few minor things that will need to be done before the game as a whole is ready for 1.0 (Achievements, polish pass on ep1 and maybe 2, etc). There's no concrete release date but that gives you some idea where we are. I know you all are getting antsy waiting but we are honestly nearing the end!

[crisp lion]

wrong one, was supposed to be the original one where it's the other way around.

Hey david? how long is your holiday gonna be?

also what is it with you and holidays?

🤔

[dim valve]

Damn, can't believe E3 is closer to becoming a reality

[thorn trout]

@crisp lion what do you mean?

@dim valve it's hard to believe I know :)

[dim valve]

i had a birb meme but it's going to become irrelevant soon, should I post it?

[mild ginkgo]

that and also address that one bug that is very annoying :)

[thorn trout]

erm, which bug?

[mild ginkgo]

the mouse cursor lol

[thorn trout]

ugh that's right

it's un Unity's hands tho

[mild ginkgo]

regardless, it wont add any significant amount of time to the release

[dim valve]

behold, my zero effort e3 is taking too long meme

[crisp lion]

Davey boi, you said you're leaving with your family, just wanna know how long till we get update on work after that

[mild ginkgo]

excellent

soon™

[crisp lion]

unless of course you're still working on it, just not to the same capacity of course 🤷

[mild chasm]

Actually Soon For Once™

[thorn trout]

@crisp lion I dunno, some point after I get back from family vacation :P

when there's something significant to report

[prisma kestrel]

hah, just said "oh shit!" aloud after the progress post

productive month :D

[thorn trout]

@prisma kestrel indeed! We all want it to be done. Even Dave has been working hard!

[prisma kestrel]

dang! didn't know he did that. :P

[thorn trout]

it's a weird and uncomfortable spectacle. He keeps pleading for us to let him go back to shitposting

[woeful sonnet]

Praise the Lord hallelujah

[mild chasm]

From what you've said David, that sounds like it might end up being done incredibly soon in fact

maybe even in time for halloween

[crimson folio]

dont forget the desaligned textures bug

[crisp lion]

🤔

it feature @crimson folio

[crimson folio]

i remember specifically in the endless level

[opal plover]

Man

Dusk

[crimson folio]

wait

[opal plover]

Actually soon

[opal plover]

Yes

fix please

[crisp lion]

that's a door

u dummy

[opal plover]

Yeah

But the lighting

no u dummy

[mild ginkgo]

i hope that is never changed

[opal plover]

What's never changed

[mild ginkgo]

oh hope that it will never be changed, i mean

[opal plover]

What do you hope is never changed? I mean

[rare musk]

ducks

[mild ginkgo]

i tried

[delicate violet]

A polish pass?

I didn't know each episode had to go through Poland

[mild ginkgo]

well ofc they do

his name is szymanski after all

[delicate violet]

If my experience in Poland tells me something

Then I know lots of beer/vodka will be involved

And the occasional fight at 3:00 am

In all seriousness, it is nice to hear that EP3 is not too long from here

For 1.0, I'd throw you guys a party with at least 30 VIP escorts if I could

[rare musk]

Wait it's a Polish pass instead of a polish pass

and here I thought it was gonna get less jank, not more

[graceful wing]

WE'RE GONNA ADD BUGS IN, NOT TAKE THEM OUT

revolutionary game design

it's a feature™

[rare musk]

It makes the game more authentic to its eurojank roots

[sly path]

Yup, add the bugs in not take them out.

Going to add bugs into my games from now on.

[crimson folio]

can't wait for the bug where flipping your gun also flips every enemy on the map

[graceful wing]

nah nah

flipping your gun flips the entire game window 180 degrees

[crimson folio]

flipping your gun flips your windows monitor orientation

[sly path]

Flipping your guns flips your cpu out of it's case.

[rare musk]

nah

flipping your guns flips YOU

and by that I mean, flip yourself to flip your guns

[sly path]

Flipping your guns flips the world IRL.

[rare musk]

webcam with face detection is now required

[crimson folio]

what happens if you flip off your gun

[rare musk]

well then you'd be playing brutal doom

[sly path]

The game deletes itself.

[rare musk]

and thus be excommunicated

[crimson folio]

i dont remember this part of brutal doom

but i mean actually flipping off your gun

🖕

[sly path]

Now that's just rude.

The game would delete itself if you do that.

[rare musk]

There's probably some way you can glitch that mess into doing the flipoff animation without lowering the gun first

[vale oar]

okay bois

looks like we're REALLY close

[opal plover]

I mean still, crits on M1-M9 being pretty much finished? I am very pleasently surprised!

The ancient knowlege will be bestowed upon us real boys

[mild ginkgo]

we'll see

still no major QA has been done on the back half of the levels

still plenty of work to be done!

[crisp lion]

so the intention is to have a story and boss polish pass, then have a beta, and finally finish it all off for the final 1.0 build

[mild ginkgo]

i mean yes but no

[amber drift]

REALLY close

to being canceled

[vale oar]

nooooo

also hope possible ep3 beta stuff is real 🙏

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i mean discord memebers will get it early just like pretty much everything else we do

however you still have some weeks to wait

[opal plover]

Weeks and not months?

[mild ginkgo]

months are made of weeks

some weeks, as in a multitude of weeks

[graceful wing]

Gg

[mild ginkgo]

a plurality of weeks

[vale oar]

weeks are made of days, so.. JUST SEVERAL DAYS GUYS

😄

[graceful wing]

Let's just say that we're close

[crisp lion]

Probably uhhhhh

in 15 billion years

:D

[mild ginkgo]

closer than youd hoped, but further than youd expect

[crisp lion]

Probably October™

[vale oar]

prolly

[graceful wing]

Just a reminder btw, if you've been a dirty rulebreaker on here recently your chances of getting beta access are.. Less than probable

[opal plover]

closer than you'd hoped, but further than you'd hoped you mean

[graceful wing]

So keep the house rules in mind

[crisp lion]

Depends what you define by "rulebreaker"

[vale oar]

NOOOOOOOO

I HAVE ONE WARNING

[opal plover]

I'm a good boy

[vale oar]

😢

[graceful wing]

Warnings from the bot. Minor things were not concerned with

[opal plover]

Too bad you'll never be rad viscount

[crisp lion]

The Virgin Rule Abider vs The Chad Rulebreaker

[vale oar]

:C

well anyway

I'm not a DIRTY one :3

[graceful wing]

You're fine

FOR NOW 👀

[tired whale]

im about to break a rule, get ready boys 😎

F R I C K

[graceful wing]

Wtf

Language

[vale oar]

Breaking the laaaw Breaking the laaaw

[tired whale]

frick u u fricking frick!

[graceful wing]

Anyways ima step back outta here and leave you to It

[tired whale]

i dun give a heck!

[vale oar]

ban plz 😃

[tired whale]

viscont23? more like, discontinued23

cuz ur a lame nerd

[crimson folio]

gotEEEM

[vale oar]

ah screw u jizzy don't make me break the LAWWWW

[amber drift]

holy penis what a scoop

[crisp lion]

gonna happen folks!

👍 👍

[vast tangle]

Another day, another cancellation

[graceful wing]

All in a days work

[slate edge]

When do we get to fight Executive Oshry as a boss and defeat him by pinging him on discord?

[crisp lion]

E3MS3

[vale oar]

You fought Executive Oshry at E2M6

[graceful wing]

It's one of the secret level(s)

[vale oar]

CMAHN

KILLME

[crisp lion]

DO EETT

DO EEET NAWWW

AUGH

HA HA HA

[vale oar]

BIG JAHN

[mild ginkgo]

you only unlock it after watching 12 hours of chinese cyst removal videos on youtube

[vale oar]

shit man

[slate edge]

k gimme a link

[crisp lion]

Forget about the Secret Oshry Level! We are cutting our losses and pulling out! Anyone left in the server is now own their own, I repeat you are now [BZZT]

[vale oar]

E3MOSH

[crisp lion]

shillboi

where we're going

we won't need early access

[opal plover]

all of this ep 3 stuff is neat but unity 2018 update when?

[crisp lion]

sometime this or next week

"apparently"

[opal plover]

Sweet

[crisp lion]

as I said "apparently"

don't actually expect an update, because honestly for all we know, the unity 2018 update will be packaged with 1.0

[graceful wing]

Sometime before Ep3 beta possibly but not sure

[vale oar]

unity ep3018 when

[opal plover]

Cancelled

This is so sad

[vale oar]

As expected

[opal plover]

Can we get three 😢 emojis?

[graceful wing]

Yeet

[slate edge]

One day someone is going to make a mod that`s just Dusk and NB memes

[mild chasm]

That'd be the official game

[slate edge]

Dusk.

[vale oar]

Apyr

[fast spire]

Petition to add Apyr into Dusk

And no, that demon thing don’t count

[opal plover]

The wendios are my droogs and if you think you can break up our friendship then you can go frick yourself, sir!

[vale oar]

These memes are

[slate edge]

Fuck

I have the perfect meme but im on my work pc

[vale oar]

:C

[thorn trout]

The 2018 update is kind of waiting on unity to backport a fix we need

[mild chasm]

Dusk EP3 will now be delayed by unity screwing up a very important engine feature that was necessary for EP3's existence

[prisma halo]

the fix we're waiting on, for the curious: https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/cursor-dot-lockstate-is-ignored-after-alt-plus-tab

If you alt-tab, the mouse will be permanently unlocked, as in, it won't stay trapped inside the game window

[vale oar]

Literally unplayable

[slate edge]

Why unity.

[prisma halo]

In windowed mode, yes

Quite

[graceful wing]

No joke

It's annoying as hell

[prisma halo]

and even if you play in fullscreen, multi-monitor setups are still screwed

[graceful wing]

Who doesn't alt tab while playing stuff

Ye you'll click outside and minimize the game

[slate edge]

Unity also cant do decals.

Well, you can but you gotta DIY it

[vale oar]

I only alttab when I play Dusk to check whether AE is cancelled or not

[graceful wing]

We definitely don't want to ship with a bug this major

[prisma halo]

I never understood why Unity doesn't offer a built-in decal solution

[slate edge]

Im guessing its the same reason why blender reversed the roles of the mouse buttons.

[mild chasm]

Is that reason "craps 'n' giggles" or perhaps "just to screw with ya"

[crimson folio]

Lol did it without changing anything in the files

[vale oar]

It is said "F3"

half-Life 3 confirmed

[fast wigeon]

hows e3ms2 coming along

[slate edge]

The topic Desc is a bit harsh.

[opaque spindle]

Its not harsh if its true

[vague egret]

It's pretty accurate

[clever wasp]

it doesn't make me hungry tho

[jade root]

E3MS2 is pretty much donezo, now we are working on adding E1MS2

[frozen heart]

When's E1MH tho

[delicate violet]

E1MS2

[fast wigeon]

i fuckin wish thats real

[delicate violet]

That is cool

[fast wigeon]

if ep3 doesnt have a second secret level im blaming jab for bad marketing

[vague egret]

You weren't already?

Surprising

[vale oar]

jab is worst marketer EVER

[jade root]

lmao someones gonna be suprised

[fast wigeon]

what r u implying jab

[jade root]

that youll be suprised when you get to play the secret level(s)

[fast wigeon]

ah ok

[vale oar]

E3MS is just memes

https://clips.twitch.tv/SneakyImpartialKumquatTheTarFu

[amber drift]

*** * SPLOOSH * ***

[tidal merlin]

How do you use the dev console?

I want to see how fast the firerate command can stack up to

[fast wigeon]

singleplayer doesnt have dev console yet

[tidal merlin]

oh

[fast wigeon]

well not in the public build anyway

mod support and console commands are comin post launch tho

[jade root]

yeah theres gonna be a console eventually

it just isnt in yet

[mild ginkgo]

Well, unless you're sneaky

And figure out the thing I was alluding to the other day

[clever wasp]

I'm still calling lies on that

[fast wigeon]

i cba looking for that anymore

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah it'd be funnier if it was lies

[fast wigeon]

id rather just wait than waste my time filing through every inch of the game

[jade root]

itd super funny if e3ms2 was a lie

[fast wigeon]

i mean no ones denied it

[clever wasp]

besides, my bullshit detector has been stuck on "Complete 100% organic cow manure" ever since I heard about Luigi in Super Mario 64

[mild ginkgo]

Lol

I feel your pain

[fast wigeon]

How To Get Rainbow Puffle CP (WORKING!!! 2007)

[mild ginkgo]

How about the secret toy story 2 for the ps1 level

That game shipped with a screenshot of stuff that wasn't in the game

Right on the back of the case

[fast wigeon]

sounds fun

[mild ginkgo]

Drove me mad

[jade root]

hamtaro fuckin

had that in the instruction book

[mild ginkgo]

Real gamers will remember how to open up the secret door in Lego Island 😎

[jade root]

drove me insane

[fast wigeon]

the only game i remember looking for those kind of secrets was club penguin

[clever wasp]

the fucking feather in Mario Kart 64

[fast wigeon]

i remember lookin for hidden palace zone in sonic 2

[mild ginkgo]

Secret levels are definitely an art

[clever wasp]

well it sort of exists I guess ?

both in the regular and the iOS port

except only the iOS version is actually playable

the slot for HPZ still exists in the Genesis version

[jade root]

doom club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNpho45LnhE real shit

[crimson folio]

🇩 oom

[fast wigeon]

yea ik the whole history with the level nowadays

i know about all the cut content in sonic 2

i didnt when i was a kid tho

[jade root]

u still are a kid

[clever wasp]

to be fair, back in the day, most secrets felt like obscure and weird legends that were told in classrooms

[jade root]

luigi is in 64 guys

[clever wasp]

like how you get to the first secret level in Doom 64

or how to beat the fucking marathonian

nowadays it's just "Yeah shoot the third hanging corpse in the nuts and a door opens to a room which has a gravestone that reads 'RIP GAMEPLAY, TAKEN TOO SOON BY GARBAGE SHOVELWARE IN THE EARLY 00'S'"

[fast wigeon]

i miss good secret areas in games

dusk is the only game ik of nowadays that do them well

[clever wasp]

Doom 2016 has some nasty ones too

[fast wigeon]

na i thought those were boring secrets

a lot of them are just corridors or rooms that are slightly out of the way

i miss the kinda secrets like in thief where you interact with a bookshelf then a secret crypt opens or smth

[fast wigeon]

hey dusknerds if episode 2 was so good why isnt there an episode 2 2

[crimson folio]

because dave can actually count to 3

woosh

[clever wasp]

the Dusk series, circa 2038: Dusk, Dusk 3, Dusk 64

[fast wigeon]

also i just brought a bunch of enemies into the duke brothers room in e1m7

and the pathfinding of the leathernecks is buggy in that room

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i mean, enemies where they arent supposed to be

always interesting

its ok guys i found the motherload

[fast wigeon]

can you spawn all of the bosses n make them infight

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

[fast wigeon]

lemme see

[mild ginkgo]

i already closed dusk but this is probably good enough

[fast wigeon]

rad

[crimson folio]

F R I E N D S H I P

[jade root]

i thought that was the demo level for a sec

[winged otter]

nuts.wad for Dusk?

[delicate violet]

Are we gonna have Dusk Kart tho

[hollow ivy]

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[crimson folio]

Absolutely chaotic

[crisp lion]

Unity taking there damn time

Good meme

[jade root]

the three true timezones
Dave Time™
Steam Time™™
Unity Time™™™

[vague egret]

forgot central

its ok

i forgive you

[frozen heart]

hol up

are we just not gonna talk about the boss name friendship

or was this something old that David was just fucking around with

[opaque spindle]

something old Scott was fuckin around with

[crimson folio]

friendship is the hardest boss

[sly path]

You forgot Jab time but okay Jab.

[crisp lion]

Jab is a lie.

To some, but to others. They're in the one true church of jab.

[mild chasm]

Jab Time doesn't exist

Jab just lies about everything

Ergo nothing will ever come to be that he's said, proven fact

Thus, no Jab Time

[crisp lion]

Jabito, Jabgo sum

I jab therfore I jab

[rare musk]

really pushing that jab meme, huh?

[sly path]

Jab, more like J

[graceful wing]

H

[hollow ivy]

H

[crisp lion]

J

A

Sports

Jabtronic Arts

[clever wasp]

'tsin the Jab

[mild chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBCAIvN5pY

[undone dirge]

yo

is dusk capmaign is good

should i play it

cuz i to be honest bought it for mp

[fast spire]

Very good

Hi, I’m the DUSK salesman. Remember to buy DUSKboxes!

[crimson folio]

What engine is DUSK running on?

[fast spire]

Unity

[crimson folio]

Nice

[vale oar]

Dusk = campaign

imo

[clever wasp]

on that note I propose a motion that is yet again another tribute to an era long gone (fittingly enough)

stating that Dusk speedruns shall be named "Dusk Done Diligently", as an echo to the Quake Done Quick series that essentially kickstarted this speedrunning nonsense

[prisma halo]

I like that name

[clever wasp]

(ignoring the fact that yes, Doom speedruns existed, yadda yadda)

[radiant venture]

@clever wasp probably as a segmented run

[clever wasp]

fine by me

[radiant venture]

all the quake done quicks are segmented

[clever wasp]

if that has to be my sole contribution to speedrunning, then let it be

that said, I don't think there currently are any segmented runs of Dusk

[radiant venture]

there is one

but it sucks

[fast wigeon]

once people get the best routes for ep3 it will be a dead speedgame anyway

[clever wasp]

it's gonna live for a while I reckon

there are already like four categories

more if you use Duskmare and/or Pacifist as modifiers

and maybe Intruder mode

[radiant venture]

the problem with dusk is that it gets really optimized really quickly

[clever wasp]

still worth a few runs

easier to get top100 than... literally everything out there

even though I'm top100 on at least one other game

[radiant venture]

top100 what?

[clever wasp]

runners

in terms of time

[radiant venture]

but we don't have 100 runners?

[clever wasp]

that is why it is so easy to get top100, yes

[radiant venture]

no

you can't get to top100

[clever wasp]

aww

[radiant venture]

it's possible to get top100 in half life tho

because half life has over 100 runners

[clever wasp]

either way, I'll still keep trying my best with my pacifist runs once ep3 comes out

from what we've seen, that is not gonna get easier

[radiant venture]

no, that's for sure

but we realized that really early

that dusk will inevitably get optimized very quickly

[clever wasp]

I mean, even if the engine is different, there's a ton of just movement knowledge that transfers

and probably a few more things

[radiant venture]

not really

[clever wasp]

I suspect that by the end of Dusk's lifetime we'll be fighting for frames a la Mario Kart 64

[radiant venture]

we already do

[clever wasp]

until we find a Weatherton

[radiant venture]

imagine this, a dusk TAS won't be that much different from a real run

[clever wasp]

not quite sure about that

if we can find a reliable (in TAS terms) setup for some wall clips, it might get real stupid in some levels

[radiant venture]

of course, but I'm speaking of the tech that we already know about

[clever wasp]

ah, the beauty of speedruns is not the tech we know, but the tech that we don't know

just look at Barrier Skip in WWHD

(granted it outright killed its category, but that's still a beautiful skip)

[radiant venture]

I'm from a completely different school of speedrunning

[clever wasp]

OG Quake/Doom runner ?

[radiant venture]

Quake 1

[clever wasp]

explains a lot

[radiant venture]

and retired from Quake 2

[clever wasp]

I was a small time DKC runner myself

then someone found a wrong warp

and more or less split any% from that point onward

[radiant venture]

here's the thing

I believe that in Quake/Q2, you MIGHT be able to somehow go oob, technically

[graceful wing]

Woah

[radiant venture]

but noone has found a way

also

gami_g

?

[clever wasp]

right

[fast wigeon]

if dusk had better movement tech it would be a really long lasting game for speedrunning

which is why im lookin forward to the possible promode

[graceful wing]

Ain't got any plans for it officially

Mod it in

[radiant venture]

Avain, I personally will try and make it happen

AS promode

[delicate violet]

Not much into speedruning

But what tech are you talking about?

[clever wasp]

mostly movement tech

[radiant venture]

movement tech

[fast wigeon]

bhop and rocket jumping mainly

[clever wasp]

and a few others

[radiant venture]

I want to rewrite almost everything for promode

[fast wigeon]

dusk doesnt actually have them, just pretend versions that are very easy to do

[radiant venture]

I don't want to half-ass it

movement wise

[fast wigeon]

also surfing would be rad

[delicate violet]

That much is true

[clever wasp]

nothing to surf off of so far

[fast wigeon]

no but there will be in custom levels

wait there is

the hills in sawdust

[radiant venture]

there's a cooler mechanic already in dusk

[clever wasp]

fairly sure the hills are climbable tho

[radiant venture]

which involves the climbing powerup

[clever wasp]

hoverclimb ?

[radiant venture]

whatever you call it

where you angle yourself correctly when climbing and go really friggin fast

[clever wasp]

not that then

[radiant venture]

what's hoverclimb?

[clever wasp]

I found out that if you launch yourself to another wall while climbing, but get hit by an explosion before landing, you can "drift" away from the wall a certain distance

and like "climb" in midair

the moment you do any movement other than turning, you fall though

[radiant venture]

is there a vid?

[clever wasp]

not yet

I'll try to make one when I'm home

[clever wasp]

https://gfycat.com/ThoroughLonelyFlee

the hoverclimb I was speaking of earlier

seems possible any time you have a climber powerup and some explosive (gl hf if it's not the riveter)

[jade root]

im tempted to not report that

cause thats fucking sick

[clever wasp]

also not too sure whether it's actually useful for anything

something I'd like to report tho is the fact that after you jump you lose speed

and it would be objectively better if you kept that speed

to crossbow hover, notably

[vale oar]

LMAOOOOO

okay guys

that's one serious bug

dusk DELAYED

to 2025

[clever wasp]

as I said, I haven't found any practical use for it (yet)

it may, or more realistically may not, help in the out of bounds in Neobabel

but that's really about it

(now if that causes issues in E3, that's another problem entirely)

[vale oar]

let's cover it up Jab

😃

[mild ginkgo]

Hmm I could've sworn we fixed that one

Maybe we only fixed it with xbow

[clever wasp]

maybe in your dev build

[mild ginkgo]

But yeah, that's been around a long time

[clever wasp]

you could leave it in, frankly. it doesn't break anything as far as I can tell

[mild ginkgo]

Since I wanna say, June of 2017

I know because of super early duskworld builds where @prisma halo used to do that

[clever wasp]

I'm honestly more concerned about the speed falloff when you jump off of a wall anyway :p

[mild ginkgo]

That happens with any normal non - bhop thresh jump

If you enter the climb with bhop I believe it's preserved

If not, it's whatever, because if you have the climbing power, there's a way to go MUCH FASTER

[clever wasp]

only in one direction tho, nah ?

[mild ginkgo]

also yes just tested to confirm

you just have to have bhop threshold

[clever wasp]

so basically, bhop to max speed, cling onto wall, then... ?

[mild ginkgo]

then you can keep your speed

this concept also works with ladders

if you attach yourself to a ladder while having bhop, when you get off the ladder, youll maintain it

[clever wasp]

interesting

also I got the E2M7 OOB by accident with this

[fast wigeon]

oob in skybabel

how does that work

[clever wasp]

basically you have to launch yourself into the void from the secret above the teleporter to the exit

in a certain direction

xbow hover untill you encounter a void-colored wall

scale that wall via rocket jumping

then xbow hover to the exit

and I firmly believe this is the hardest trick in the game right now, short of roll clip

cause if you don't have enough crossbow ammo, you die

if you don't have enough health, you die when scaling the wall

and if your direction is off, you die

[fast wigeon]

is there any point in going oob

[clever wasp]

finishing the level in under two minutes

[clever wasp]

@fast wigeon https://gfycat.com/UnderstatedDetailedIrrawaddydolphin

bear in mind that my execution is in no way perfect, and that it's apparently an old (relatively speaking) trick

but you can see from my ammo count that the wall is pretty far away

and basically, if you don't have bhop speed threshold, you just plain don't even reach the wall

if you have less than 25-odd crossbow bolts, you don't reach the wall

or you can't hover away from it

it's tight, is what I'm trying to say

[fast wigeon]

o ok

[clever wasp]

I'd really like to hear the story of how it was found in the first place

cause there is like no way in hell this is accidental

were the exit in the general alignment of the level, that would make some sense

but it's like, about 90° counter clockwise

[fast wigeon]

i guess someone just started experimenting

it wouldnt have taken that long to find

[vale oar]

Holy fuck dude

that was awesome

[clever wasp]

thanks, but I'm still far from optimal

[vale oar]

Hell dude, I can't even do THAT one

[clever wasp]

here, look at this one: https://youtu.be/bilRfRTf0vA?t=249

current WR (I think)

[vale oar]

dammit man

[crimson folio]

is it ?

[clever wasp]

as far as I know at least

[vale oar]

Speedruns are obviously not my cup of tea

😢

[crimson folio]

You said you enjoy a solid experience with the campaign

thats it

right ?

damn nice jazz

[clever wasp]

that's not my run

in case I needed to specify

[vale oar]

HEEEEELP HE'S GONNA KILL ME

Okay

gotcha :3

[crimson folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHwSrGyq-rU

where else can we get this

[dim valve]

i know we make minecraft jokes a lot but I honest to god thought that was a minecraft thumbnail

david

this came out in 2014?

you should sue toby fox, seriously

[prisma halo]

Just wanna announce that Dusk is now cancelled because we realized we could never reach the quality standard of SharpShooter3D, therefore we might as well not even try to compete

Such a holy piece of creation can never be bested

[dim valve]

had to look it up. isn't it just a Dagestanized Grezzo 2?

[crimson folio]

Hah i found

[prisma halo]

No because this one isn't made up of stolen doom community content

it's original

[crimson folio]

it

[prisma halo]

it's like slav redneck rampage

[crimson folio]

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2zh9Vh0Pec

this is epic

[dim valve]

look out tonight we riot devs https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/873150/ss_adef5d34080079e8cb47ffb7e707d0263fcc64f7.1920x1080.jpg?t=1536175745

can't post the bathroom screenshot, but did they really get motherfuckin Mike Matei to be in their game?

[tired whale]

wuzzat

[crisp lion]

There's always something special about these Russian games.

this is so sad

[thorn trout]

wtf someone found Down We Go

[crisp lion]

can we use Probuilder to make DUSK mods? 🙌

[thorn trout]

I dunno probably

[crisp lion]

Down we go is just aesthetic Pit

[crimson folio]

its heretic Pit

What is that screenie?

[dim valve]

latest internal forum injoke

aka SharpShooter 3D

#gami_g

[jaunty meteor]

thanks for reminding me of SS3D, picking it up now

[thorn trout]

Down We Go is awful tbh. Only good thing about it is the humor

and the music

[crisp lion]

this is so sad, can DWG be added as a joke to the goodies folder?

Also David, will those Health and Morale Altars from the pre-release builds appear somewhere in Ep3?

*aka the DuskTestLevel small altar/monolith/obelisk thing"

[mild ginkgo]

just spawn it in

i was doing that in e1m1 yesterday

[frozen heart]

rood

[crisp lion]

500 is thanos confirmed

[mild ginkgo]

one day people might discover how

today does not appear to be that day

[frozen heart]

don't make me start throwing command line arguments

[crisp lion]

Ctrl + F4

[dim valve]

but seriously david, imagine an alternate universe where all the fangirls on tumblr wanted to bone this guy instead of sans

[crimson folio]

i don't think i want to

[mild chasm]

It's just a freaking smiley face

so I guess everything would be better actually

[thin sphinx]

@crimson folio that has what seems to be WIPs of some EP3 levels

from what I've played at quakecon some of that reminds me of the architecture in the ep3 demo

[prisma halo]

👀

[delicate violet]

I missed quakecon this year

but if I manage to go next year, I'll buy the beers

[mild ginkgo]

hell yeah

we're probably gonna do a big byoc nb section

everyone is welcome

[crisp lion]

byoc?

dud wat

[mild ginkgo]

bring your own computer

[delicate violet]

I'll bring my shitty inspiron laptop

But I def would be up for that

I just went to Quakecon once and it was the shit

Because that was the same one where id revealed doom 4

[thin sphinx]

ive been to the last two

intend to come to as many others as possible

[mild ginkgo]

you never introduce yourself

let us know who you are!

[opal plover]

Yeah the probuilder showcase has an early version of E3M1

[mild ginkgo]

nah

it has an early version of a1m6

[opal plover]

Yes

Which is E3M1

[mild ginkgo]

not QUITE

[opal plover]

Yeah but it had the part that now has the two grand wizards, the place with the altar of the forsaken and the blue key crystals of madness pit

[crisp lion]

I thought you said altar of foreskin then

[opal plover]

Oh oops typo

[prisma halo]

Yeah that's A1M6

[crisp lion]

🤔

[prisma halo]

E3M1 is different

[opal plover]

But it reuses some areas

[mild ginkgo]

they significantly diverge

[prisma halo]

Yeah, a little bit

[opal plover]

Yeah I remember you people saying people haven't seen A1M6 yet for a good reason

[mild ginkgo]

that entire ending bit is different

and i dont think it had the maze

[prisma halo]

the maze reminded me of A1M5 a bit

[clever wasp]

wait, A1 ?

[crystal vessel]

I'm assuming it means alpha

[prisma halo]

that's what I think it means anyway

David would know for sure

[crystal vessel]

Could mean ass

[crisp lion]

Ah Early to Mid 2016 DUSK

[prisma halo]

for reference

[crisp lion]

such simple times

[prisma halo]

the old pre pre pre alpha demo level

is A1M2

[crisp lion]

what's A1M1?

[prisma halo]

never seen it, it probably doesn't even exist

[crisp lion]

E3 2016 demo level?

[prisma halo]

oh wait nevermind, yes

A1M1 is the E3 level

[crisp lion]

Any others?

[prisma halo]

A1M1, A1M2 and A1M6 are the only ones we still have afaik

we have navmesh data from A1M5

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/379203049010364416/unknown.png

[mild ginkgo]

i know parts of that level

[crisp lion]

so what happened to the rest? purged by David?

[prisma halo]

some of it does look familiar

it's like a spliced together version of a bunch of early E2/E3 maps

[crisp lion]

Well there is some vague E2M1 in there

[prisma halo]

and yeah, purged before the game was moved to Git

[mild ginkgo]

and that happened around may 2017 i believe

[prisma halo]

it was soon after I got involved, since I remember pushing for it

[opal plover]

Early E2's esthetic is something I want to experience

[prisma halo]

could probably check chat logs to find out when

[crisp lion]

So aka there's content lost from the Mid-2015 early pre-alphas to May 2017?

[mild ginkgo]

or just look at the first commit

i wouldnt say lost, david still has a bunch of stuff

and we also have builds from far before then

like the meatlass plane

[crisp lion]

Meatlass plane?

[prisma halo]

Barring a few exceptions, and potential extra files on David's hard drive, anything that wasn't left over in the game data prior to Git is lost

[mild ginkgo]

its a plane

[crisp lion]

the pre-pre-pe alpha level with a bunch of guns and lads?

[prisma halo]

The exceptions being files I can (and have, in a few cases) rip from old builds

[mild ginkgo]

with a bunch of meatlasses

[opal plover]

I think the geographical plane not an airplane

[prisma halo]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

no its an airplane

[prisma halo]

that build is really interesting

[crisp lion]

Meatlasses are cut once and for all no?

[prisma halo]

because it's the only one with a death animation for the meat lass

the meat lass death animation would be totally lost without that build

[mild ginkgo]

its also got the super old menu

the blue menu

[opal plover]

Also same layout from A1M5

[prisma halo]

that's what I think it is

but I'm not sure

[mild ginkgo]

nah thats a diff level maniaac

[prisma halo]

I remember comparing the navmeshes

[mild ginkgo]

thats still in the build

[prisma halo]

and I think they differed

[mild ginkgo]

or rather

the unity project

[opal plover]

I know it is

Zombie said so a long time ago

Anyway is was that an Ep3 map?

[mild ginkgo]

no

ep2

[prisma halo]

late ep2 iirc

[mild ginkgo]

mhm

[crisp lion]

Underground shit aka?

[opal plover]

DON'T GO IN THE RUINS

[mild ginkgo]

it was like e2m7/8

which parts of got ported to e2mS

well the CURRENT e2mS

nevermind the like four previous iterations

[opal plover]

I wonder what the experiment's old arena was like, also David should totally have kept that roar animation

[prisma halo]

something I find really interesting about some of the really old unused maps is that they have a whole bunch of extra level geometry that you never normally see

simply because it's marked disabled

[mild ginkgo]

i wish old e2m2 was E2MS2

[opal plover]

Yeah old E2M2 seems interesting from what you've said 500

[mild ginkgo]

that map is NEARLY complete

and of a decent quality

[prisma halo]

like, the old build that had the shrine things has a big outdoor area in the map, but it's hidden

[opal plover]

I'll try modding it back in as E2MS2

Anyway that old E1M10

[mild ginkgo]

WHICH old e1m10

i have a one thats a funny midpoint

[opal plover]

The one from the screenshot

[mild ginkgo]

thats not an e1m10

[opal plover]

Also that funny midpoint I guess

[prisma halo]

I'm so glad we have all post-E1 stuff backed up on git

[mild ginkgo]

thats a trailer specific thing

[opal plover]

Makes sense

The roar too?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah that roar was never used again

[opal plover]

Shame

[mild ginkgo]

along with the fountain scene

[opal plover]

The fountain?

[prisma halo]

the fountain scene wasn't used in the final trailer

there's an older version of the reveal trailer that has it

[mild ginkgo]

OH thats right lol

yeah

that version is on the dropbox

[prisma halo]

there are like 3 old versions on there

[opal plover]

Anyway about those old E1M10s

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

i mean they arent very interesting

[prisma halo]

yeah they're worth like one watch

lmao

[mild ginkgo]

one of them cuts off before the stairs down

my favorite dusk trailer

[opal plover]

I'd love to see all of those, the reveal trailer is my favorite dusk trailer

[mild ginkgo]

is the unreleased ZOMBIE CUT]

[crisp lion]

One of the test maps was like that

[opal plover]

What's the funny midpoint of E1M10 like?

[prisma halo]

I don't think I even have the project files for that trailer anymore

[crisp lion]

though it was an older late-2015 map

[prisma halo]

I'm mad that the exported video has in-game sound cut off at the beginning, like you just can't hear the game for the first few cuts for... no reason

fuckin' video editing tools breaking everything

[mild ginkgo]

it was really nice

[prisma halo]

it needed a lotta work towards the end

some of the cuts were really awkward

(also I needed to replace the placeholder reveal trailer footage lmao)

[opal plover]

Oh yeah I think I saw that Zombie cut trailer with some placeholder reveal trailer stuff