jk
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
crisp lion
opal plover
no Zom Zom i was supposed to post it
crimson folio
Now thats an Ep3 weapon
opal plover
wait two?
mild chasm
I mean I'd take that, I would prefer a spellbook, but at least it does a spinny instead of just glowing as you hold it straight forwards
crisp lion
Still, the Dark Claw is just the Totem Part 2
prisma halo
crimson folio
eh its cheat right ?
winged otter
very Heretic
prisma halo
it's still in the game but the code for it to function as a weapon is missing
mild chasm
I just think a spellbook in Dusk would be really cool as a weapon because of the pages and stuff
prisma halo
you can spawn it but it just gives you a crossbow when you pick it up
mild chasm
I can't wait for the Chasm: The Rift mod for Dusk
opal plover
make it a accessible through a command like the irregular ar fire rate and smoke from it's barrel should be
winged otter
Chasm for Dusk? not a bad idea
prisma halo
@opal plover
opal plover
);
crisp lion
bahahaha
steady aurora
Just realized that the groovy is a reference to Evil Dead amirite?
crisp lion
well duh
crimson folio
graceful wing
Nah it's a reference to groove coaster. David LOVES GC
crisp lion
makes sense for the bait king
mild chasm
Imagine the super tacticool mall ninja weaponry that people will mod into dusk with sick reloads and stuff
crisp lion
right
mild chasm
and then force requiring brutal dusk
crisp lion
because Automatic AR-15 derivatives are totally not overused!
mild chasm
I was thinking more like
mild chasm
MP5SD3, Glocks, Mossberg 590s with pistol grips and AR-15 stocks
A Remington 700 with an ACOG
crisp lion
miss me with that GTA V-tier shieeet
opaque spindle
mild chasm
A Mac-10 that has picatinny rails all over it
An M4 Carbine that's actually an AR-15 with magpul furniture and has an EOTech put on backwards and the gasblock is gone because ironsights are for nerds
canted iron sights
vale oar
why dafuq are u white guys
fair mirage
discord being shit
vale oar
lol
mild chasm
500 magazines locked to each other with those clamp things
fair mirage
sometimes it takes ages to get role data for some reason
crimson folio
actualy with some weapons and some modifications to them with big open maps dusk can be a hunting simulator
crisp lion
yea big oofy mcdoofy
vale oar
okay drek you are the first green one in this chat, you've just exposed urself
u are from Nibiru
crimson folio
vale oar
lol didn't u know?
crimson folio
Doot Yeet Guy
clever wasp
what do "crits" stand for btw ? critics ?
fair mirage
critique
vague egret
opal plover
blasphemy is a fitting name for the cathedral level
crimson folio
the dificulty though 
vale oar
We all know Dave sucks at Dusk
opal plover
more secrets though pls
vale oar
yeah blasphemy is defo the cath level
crisp lion
fucking awesome to know Ep3 is so damn close.
vale oar
but there is E3M10 tho
crisp lion
A Spring-fall release might be possible after all
the final boss isn't even finished yet IIRC
vale oar
Yup.
opal plover
doubt it's gonna release in 2019
crisp lion
I doubt it'll be any later than October tbh
opal plover
also e3m6 has been critted
opaque spindle
We'll have to see nothing is really set in stone
I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet
vale oar
@thorn trout Just put another Big John at the end E3M10 and rename him "Dave Osrhy", that will do
atomic egret
Final boss of dusk is just a short leatherneck
opaque spindle
What the fuck is happening
crisp lion
O O F
atomic egret
Whoops this isn't internal discord
crisp lion
sorry, my weebstake >> #bnnuy-and-the-jits ๐
vale oar
Yeah sorry
opaque spindle
not you
vale oar
๐ฌ
fair mirage
definitely you
vale oar
fug u then ๐ฉ
atomic egret
vale oar
vale oar
lmao
mild chasm
The final boss of Dusk is actually David
vale oar
Dusk day tomorrow?
crisp lion
Dusk day tomorrow
opal plover
i wish
vale oar
No Riveter, right? [finger clicks]
gusty geode
crisp lion
@vale oar what's wrong with this dusk Saturday screenshot?
frozen heart
episode pee
fast wigeon
will 1.0 have console commands
crisp lion
IIRC console commands will be supplied with DAWN
don't know about console commands in DUSK
existent but disabled console commands don't count devs, and mods ๐
graceful wing
No it will have pc commands
crisp lion
I will Ctrl + R CMD to erase that comment naughty boi
crisp lion
that's the JOKE
fair mirage
the joke sucks
crisp lion
mild chasm
You're a joke that sucks
crisp lion
oof
mild chasm
And a suck that jokes
fair mirage
that's nice honey
prisma halo
@fast wigeon if the SDK is ready in time for 1.0, then yes, it will have console commands
but I don't think the SDK will be ready by then
I'd love for that to happen, but I dunno yet
fast wigeon
alright
vale oar
u lil bastard
gleaming berry
DUSK ep 3 dev continues
I was gonna tweet more ep 3 pics last night but they told me not to sorry gusy
too spilerz
vale oar
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
vale oar
THEY TOLD YOU? Aren't YOU the boss?
thorn trout
@gleaming berry it's up to you Dave. I'm cool either way. It is spoilz tho.
vale oar
Just post a random wall texture pic idk ๐
mild chasm
eyebrow reveal of the final boss, go
fast wigeon
if dave does end up posting spoilers can we not post it here
vale oar
NO PLEASE NO
Final boss is not done yet btw
IT HAS NO EYEBROWS YET
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
vale oar
Looks like the 2nd half of ep3 is.. eh...something more than just average Dusk levels
steady aurora
Memes as far as the eye can see
opaque spindle
^
vale oar
@opaque spindle ๐
opaque spindle
Ugandan Knuckles is in the second half of episode 3 I know that much
steady aurora
All I heard in my head while reading was REEEEEEEEEeeeeEEEEeeeeeeeee!
vale oar
lmao
crimson folio
Dude this just leaked the final boss of Dusk is
Spoilers ahead๐๐๐
Large Johnathan
crimson folio
BTW big John 2 is dlc
clever wasp
#NoJohns
dim valve
There is no final boss in dusk
It's just an FMV of Dave saying that New Blood ran out of money and now they have to turn all their franchises into endless runner mobile games
crimson folio
Donโt forget that theyโre making FarmVille 13 for the commodore 64 and David is directing the project to replace the final boss of Dusk: Nameless City
mild chasm
That would be a good shoutout to that one part in Postal 2 Apocalypse Weekend
postal crossover for co-op pls
crimson folio
Postal crossover better have bionicle amiibo support with the Dusk preorder bonus DLC
mild chasm
Would make it easier to put yourself out if you catch on fire
just unzip, jump, hold the urination button and spin
gleaming berry
yeah like we want to show new stuff
but we dont want to spoil stuff
so iz hard
we'll be on the EVGA stream again at PAX
maybe we'll show E3M4-6?
idk
mild chasm
Let's hope for the monsters running up to force spoilers
crisp lion
It's best to show the least interesting stuff to avoid spoilers.
Though every pre release item IS A SPOILER
Not that environments are much of a spoiler TBH.
opal plover
honestly i'd rather have a bigger overview of a later level than small overviews of the levels up to it
clever wasp
I'm more for keeping the surprise of the later levels myself
I wanna find out how this ends by myself
clever wasp
nah dude, I'm Pacifist(tm)
gonna try to talk with whatever hell-spawned abomination is responsible for the story
what could possibly go wrong
opal plover
like they should do what they did with ep2 and just show e3m6 or whatever at pax
crisp lion
Well let's just say the Cult Leader isn't the highest on the DUSK enemy hierarchy
;)
because that would actually be a carbon rod
clever wasp
I think that given we're now in the nameless city, the Cult Leader (whoever the hell that might be) is definitely not my biggest problem
opal plover
yeah i know
clever wasp
gonna invoke the law of the void on that, you don't gain that kind of power on your own. something gave power to the Cult Leader in the first place
crisp lion
Dave or David, not sure which, hell might've been 500 that said that.
opal plover
well yeah he obviously isn't human
crisp lion
he's probably just a giant mage that spawns other mages
opal plover
the duke bros aren't half skyscraper sized though
i'd love it if he was hugh zan sized though
clever wasp
either way, I'll try to talk to whatever eldritch abomination corrupted/empowered the Cult Leader
like "hello pls saton stop making people evil n shit"
and if that don't work, I'll just go out of bounds
and if that does not work
well fuck
opal plover
"it aint nice being bad"
spare cobalt
2:01 PM] Bad64: gonna try to talk with whatever hell-spawned abomination is responsible for the story <-- this is gonna end just as bad as my sickles vs intoxigator try
clever wasp
enter boss arena, say "I'm going to scrub you hard"
crisp lion
oof
spare cobalt
he already took a bath :-)
opal plover
use all your charisma point to convince him into taking a romatic bath with you
and then whe he least excepts it...
crisp lion
nah u gotta have the Confirmed Bachelor perk
clever wasp
"Roll charisma + bonus for coercing the boss into taking a bath with you"
"Do I get extra points if I make it a candlelit bath ?"
spare cobalt
I dont even want to know how many times this has happened in someones pen & paper
clever wasp
not quite this one, but I had a few similar stories
opal plover
yeah except dnd doesn't have a 90000000 damage soap
clever wasp
I once had my party invite the boss necromancer to a barbecue
spare cobalt
good poinmt
clever wasp
assbag thief critted.
spare cobalt
lol
clever wasp
so I had to describe at length a scene where the necromancer has a change of heart and decides to become a healer instead
over some bbq ribs
clever wasp
it's D&D, anything can happen as long as the mighty d20 agrees with it
opal plover
did the ribs remind him of the food his mom cooked for him as a child
spare cobalt
more like anything can happen as long as your game master agrees with it
clever wasp
nah it was more like it was the first time someone outside the Necromancy Academy (a building made of pure Bullshitium if I do say so myself) tries to be nice with him and shit
also yeah there's some of that, but as a GM I tend to roll with the... well, rolls
I have never invalidated a crit so far
even those who absolutely wrecked my campaigns
like once I had a mini campaign where my party needed to find a vampire hiding in a town
the (chaotic neutral) warrior decided to throw garlic at literally everyone in the vicinity
spare cobalt
haha
clever wasp
he legit spend half the party gold on bags and bags of garlic
spare cobalt
this is some RPG shit right here
clever wasp
eventually he hit the vampire (after angering most of the town)
and promptly decided that since he found him by tossing garlic, he would toss his fucking claymore at him
instant decapitation, campaign over
opal plover
was the reward higher than the gold spent on garlic?
clever wasp
not even remotely close, since he pissed a good part of town by garlic'ing them
spare cobalt
you didnt get paid and you better not show your face around those parts again
clever wasp
I don't remember how much gold exactly he spent on garlic, but the reward was inferior to that
he got mad xp for oneshotting a vampire though
spare cobalt
lol at least HE got paid in some way
clever wasp
he also kept the remaining bags of garlic in the bag of holding
so there was a running joke that every time he reached into the BoH, he had a chance (determined by like 1d10 IIRC) to pull garlic instead of the item he was looking for
eventually, shortly before being turned into a stone statue, he got a breastplate engraved with protection runes in the shape of a head of garlic
turns out it doesn't protect against curses
so a few miles off of... some town I didn't retain the name (Sidromar I think ?), there is a statue of a legitimate Garlic Knight, attempting to strike a cool pose before being turned into stone
opal plover
Did he do the T2 thumbs up?
clever wasp
nah, he failed his "cool pose" roll
his lower half looks like he's running, and his upper half looks like he's trying to dab with both arms
(this was in like 2006, dabbing didn't exist, I just don't know how else I could describe his pose)
opal plover
good shit
opal plover
hey tell me about the twitching ulcer texture pls
thorn trout
Man D&D always sounds like a super fun time. I've never played it though.
clever wasp
it requires some setting up and a very dedicated group that can make time to play
fast wigeon
d&d is either going to be the most awkward and worst game youve ever played or some of the best times youll ever have
depending on who you play with
ive been dming a group recently
clever wasp
and how hard they fail their rolls
fast wigeon
my players got into a dance off in a tavern recently
one guy just kept gettin 1s and 2s
clever wasp
already off to a great start
fast wigeon
everyone else was rolling 18-20s
thorn trout
I love the concept of critical failing mundane tasks
fast wigeon
also my players were doing a heist that went wrong, so their solution was to make a pretend hostage situation as a distraction
mild ginkgo
Like your trip to ikea
fast wigeon
then they burnt the mansion down afterwards
mild ginkgo
You rolled a 1 on that
clever wasp
to be fair, usually you don't ask for a dice roll over a mundane task like opening a chest or something along those lines
fast wigeon
na
clever wasp
unless you have trapped the item they interact with
fast wigeon
unless ur a really picky dm
fair mirage
"you try dancing... 1. huh. you roll your ankle and severely sprain it"
mild ginkgo
Yeah that's very dm based
fair mirage
that's how i'd do it
mild ginkgo
Some do checks for everything
Usually they start doing it more if you're doing too well
In order to balance things
thorn trout
@mild ginkgo oof yeah the Ikea trip was a critical fail for sure
clever wasp
I've actually written a house rule like that
fast wigeon
i accidentally gave my players 1000 gold as a reward in the first session
cos i didnt fully understand how much it was
the entire next session i spent trying to get rid of it
clever wasp
every session, I was allowed to call three "luck rolls", on any action I wish, without justification
fast wigeon
sounds like that could be fun
clever wasp
the downside is that for each luck roll they passed, they were allowed to call one on me
fast wigeon
the only house rule we have is that we dont use the allignment system
cos its restricting
clever wasp
it's become less of a house rule lately, like I think 5E suggests ignoring alignment entirely
except in the case of, for example, blessed/cursed weapons
fast wigeon
yea stuff like that and paladin is hte only thing it really effects
clever wasp
and paladin is debatable
I had a setting where paladins could be chaotic, they just wouldn't be "holy" paladins
like technically you could be paladin of any element, my own character was an Earth paladin
fast wigeon
ah
opal plover
avain is pissed
graceful wing
Can you be a meme paladin? I want to play a meme paladin
fast wigeon
yea thats probably a homebrew class
graceful wing
Hell yeah dude!!!
clever wasp
yes and no, in my case my earth paladin was more or less a druid with plate armor and less potent magic
opal plover
oh i thought you were gonna complain that this is turning into #DnD
clever wasp
there you go
jade root
lol David rolled a "1" on his Gamedev check
clever wasp
"So this is a critical failure, Episode 3 is now a pay2win Plants vs Zombies clone"
crisp lion
N I C E
crimson folio
Thanks shill for reminding me to write a review for a game I already have and reviewed
eternal fulcrum
Lol
charred gorge
haven't followed this in a while, but how's ep3 coming along?
any more screens aside from those early ones in march
clever wasp
slowly but surely
crimson folio
Missions 1-9 are almost done and final boss is a work in progress
eternal fulcrum
The first 5 levels are complete I think
crimson folio
Yeah
eternal fulcrum
The rest are almost done
crimson folio
The final boss level has only been recently started
eternal fulcrum
Probably
eternal fulcrum
Though I'm pretty sure everyone here is done making release predictions
crimson folio
David really wants to perfect the levels
eternal fulcrum
Yeah
crimson folio
And the final boss
clever wasp
6-9 are being critted apparently
crimson folio
So it will take a while for the episode to be released
eternal fulcrum
I Remember when everyone was saying early may
clever wasp
that said, halloween release is definitely possible
eternal fulcrum
Is when ep 3 comes out
A Halloween release would be cool since Halloween fits DUSK.
fast wigeon
remember that all the achievements and launch features have to be made too before ep3 drops
eternal fulcrum
Yeah
crimson folio
It will probably release on Halloween or at least on some day in October.
eternal fulcrum
MAYBE
crimson folio
It would make sense
eternal fulcrum
Yeah but you never know
opaque spindle
maybe 6-9 are still in rough draft stages
Still quite a bit of work to be done on them
crimson folio
@deed hedlurker#8452 true indeed
opaque spindle
also none of you have made a 69 joke smh
eternal fulcrum
Wot m8
clever wasp
69 is overrated, everyone's all about that 420 nowadays
anyway, I think I saw on Dave's twitter that 6-9 were being critted recently
eternal fulcrum
I don't know what that means but it sounds good
clever wasp
basically, alpha-ish playtesting
eternal fulcrum
Ahh
clever wasp
to see if the level layout is okay and stuff
eternal fulcrum
Cool
clever wasp
and prevent levels from turning into Cutty Mines 2
that's what I heard anyway
Twitter
mild ginkgo
Rule #1 : never listen to dave
tired whale
no that's rule 2
rule 1 is All posts and communication will remain safe-for-work. Do not post or discuss anything:
- Overtly sexually explicit
- Related to race, ethnicity, religion, sex, social class, disability, politics, ideology, activism, or sexual orientation.
eternal fulcrum
Yes
clever wasp
the #dave rule is, do not talk about #dave
steady aurora
The only thing I can say about both Dave and David is their hot & wet baby face
eternal fulcrum
Stop milking it
steady aurora
I feel like this is going to be part of my vocabulary for the first half of Sept
serene sandal
Wtf is happening in here
steady aurora
I mean come on, it's a Newblood discord server my man
steady aurora
Thinking outside the box
tired whale
the #dave rule should be pretty low on the list
steady aurora
I miss that guy who was complaining he couldn't get these games for free
tired whale
so that he could see it without his stepladder
fast spire
Is he a dumdum poopy head?
steady aurora
precisely my man
jade root
anyway
steady aurora
Didn't catch who Vamp was but oh well
jade root
moving on
fast spire
So, Dusk
steady aurora
Dusk is pree cool I guess
steady aurora
Soon, I guess 
jade root
which secret level is your guys favorite? e3ms1, e3ms2, or e3ms3?
fast spire
Yes
winged otter
sadly i dont played e3 secret
steady aurora
Like the days we wait for Ep 3
jade root
lol
fast spire
And we shall continue to wait
jade root
less then 100 mil
steady aurora
It's true doe
fast spire
And ever
jade root
david got lost at ikea
steady aurora
I ain't no Geological scientist
jade root
we havent seen him since
steady aurora
He got caught putting together their furniture
fast spire
Iโm waiting for ep 3. I havenโt fully blown my DUSK load. I kept some in
What the fuck am I writing?
steady aurora
Something about your lingering load
It happens sometimes, Newblood games do that to you
jade root
New Load games
fast spire
NB makes me feel sexually active
jade root
New Blow
fast spire
HHHHHNNNNGGGG
steady aurora
New Blow - Your Load,
Directed by Dave
crimson folio
when is halloween ?
steady aurora
Halloween is best
fast wigeon
31st of october
steady aurora
Going to buy a mini skeleton and keep him in my room
Kiss him sleepy kisses before bed
steady aurora
Shhh I call it mutual skeleton-ship
clever wasp
a skeleton crew then
steady aurora
Man I love this server 
quartz moss
just puts a blow up doll in the skeleton
crimson folio
๐
prisma hill
any1 on
elder scaffold
Man amid evil gets episode beta testing wut about us ๐ฆ
vague egret
we will do something similar when the time comes
thin sphinx
from what i understand AE ep is almost fiished
and dusk's EP3 is still in development
polar fern
Keep in mind AE has smaller episodes,
crisp lion
DUSK is just a Redneck Rampage-Night in the Woods Crossover for people that like NIะ
opal plover
what does it have to do with night in the woods though?
crisp lion
Cultists in Small town Pennsylvania
also both have a mine integral to the plot of the gameโข
opal plover
oh yeah I can see the resemblance
crisp lion
Also you don't even see the faces of the "human enemies" anyway (they're all covered up in some form or another, hell even the Scientists are mutilated judging by their texture and appearance), DUSKdude doesn't even have a confirmed appearance (barring non-canon comic)
hence the crossover.
boom
big reveal
crisp lion
Big Jahn is just a dimension-hopping LARPing Dave Oshry.
mild chasm
He's not larping he's just his usual nutjob self
crisp lion
Vilified.
For your overwhelmingly monstrous behavior, you have become vilified by the community.
acoustic oriole
Will DUSK Ep3 possibly have closed beta testing like AE Ep5 does right now?
opaque spindle
Yes it will
crimson folio
How many people are allowed to beta test?
vague egret
but like the AE test, it will likely be rank limited
acoustic oriole
I imagine it will be the same ruleset as AE's, Soldier Rank and above?
vague egret
we see it as a way of rewarding those who contribute to the community the most
acoustic oriole
makes sense
vale oar
how bout I give ya $10000
crisp lion
๐ช ๐ช ๐ช
acoustic oriole
they hate money and love you, remember?
vale oar
oh sh
crisp lion
Did you ever become a Soldier just so you could flex on people with your beta access privileges?
acoustic oriole
I'm a rat sniff sniff
vague egret
you got time. soldier is still pretty easy to get
the gaps beyond that are much worse
acoustic oriole
I can be active in any channel here, right?
vale oar
yeah the one between Maiden and John is HUGE
vague egret
everywhere except memefactory counts
acoustic oriole
memefactory hurts my brain, so that works for me
crisp lion
I believe it doubles every time.
though I swear Soldier is as easy to get as Rat IIRC.
vague egret
i wrote the XP table for it. the XP curve is exponential
winged otter
are user warnings resetting the current rank?
vale oar
not warnings
vague egret
warning dont
limits, mutes, and bans result in reset
crisp lion
So tread carefully.
vague egret
also leaving the server on your own wipes your progress
crisp lion
Self Imposed Exile is a bitch ain't it?
But whatever, this is DUSK not general.
On the topic of the DUSK Wiki the situation is that there isn't much to warrant much of an expansion at this time.
Work is definitely planned post-complete release.
Take into account that it's free to edit, IIRC you only need an account? (not sure)
And i'll be alerted anytime some cheeky bugger decides to assault the pages, so watch out.
Positions to become mods are open for the wiki too, I know @balmy sluice would make a good one, and four wiki mods would be beneficial, though 2-3 would work fine.
balmy sluice
The only problem with that is that the wiki isn't officially supported or endorsed by NB. I love helping out on it, but I'm not sure if having me as a mod on it would send the message that it's strictly community driven or not.
crisp lion
jade root
yep
crimson folio
Ah understandable
clever wasp
hopefully I will ding soldier by the start of ep3 beta
graceful wing
In your case you're not quite there yet unfortunately :(
Keep being active and you'll make it in to the next beta for sure
crimson folio
Can my rank deteriorate over time if Iโm not active?
jade root
nope
graceful wing
Nah that'd be lame
steady aurora
So Soldier will give access to Ep 3 beta?
graceful wing
You can only go down if you break a server rule
jade root
*serious moderator action taken against you
graceful wing
Also who knows at this point
steady aurora
Gotchu
jade root
big JOHNS ONLY
slate edge
jade root
besides cancelling it
graceful wing
Yeet
slate edge
Dusk is now being turned into a turn based dating sim.
crimson folio
Off topic lore question: what is Big Johnโs real full name?
jade root
Biggle Tiggle Jonathan the Fifth
winged otter
Grzegorz Brzฤczyszczykiewicz
jade root
(There's no full name, big John is a dumb meme dave forces on everyone)
mild chasm
His name is John Oshry
crimson folio
Be careful what you say for it might become C A N O N
mild chasm
No relation to dave
crimson folio
Why is soap so powerful in combat?
Is there like some strange lore reason for this?
winged otter
of course! soap has Planescape Torment lore quality
mild chasm
Did you ever stop and notice that all the cultists are absolutely filthy
If you clean them, they explode
That's why all the water is dirty too
they made it as filthy as possible so that if they go in it they don't die
Totally canon, don't ask anybody though just take my word for it
amber karma
i just bought dusk and i'm about to play it for the first time
hopefully it is maybe fun
graceful wing
hope you enjoy it!
oh and please let us know what you think after you've had some time with the game 
amber karma
will do!
i'm top 100 devil daggers player
it's the only game i know
so now i'm cheating on it with dusk
graceful wing
mild ginkgo
Be sure to play all the way through both episodes
They are very different from each other
clever wasp
also use headphones
clever wasp
by the way, not that I dislike the music in the game, but will the SDK allow for soundtrack modding ?
(on the contrary even, I gotta buy the OST when it releases)
graceful wing
ye
clever wasp
y'all just thought of everything didn't ya
eternal fulcrum
They probably did
clever wasp
will the SDK support invading another player's game, taking control of a monster, a la Dark Souls (or Doom Eternal, apparently)
bet you didn't think about that
eternal fulcrum
I bet they did
acoustic oriole
Big John invasion
eternal fulcrum
clever wasp
go back to strangling people with a piano wire in the meantime
eternal fulcrum
I can tell
clever wasp
wait, you don't even do that anymore do you ? last Hitman I played was BM
acoustic oriole
I honestly didn't play the last one yet
clever wasp
never even managed to finish Contracts for my part
acoustic oriole
strangling people with a fiber wire isn't as fun as riveting the shit out of cultists, though
but that's a matter of mood and taste
clever wasp
different situations call for different methods
one guy is knee deep into a child prostitution affair, you drop a chandelier on his head
an entire town of cultists is after you because you... exist I guess ? you rivet them to death sidehop for 93 kilometers
acoustic oriole
I like it when games don't try to give you motivation to why you're doing
like DUSK does, and DOOM and many others
clever wasp
not that many lately
one of the complaints I heard about Doom 2016 was that there "is no story"
which for starters is patentedly false
thin sphinx
that complaint isnt even valid though
clever wasp
and then, back in my day, all the story we even needed was "The princess has been kidnapped, go save her"
thin sphinx
its like a action movie where there is story its just not in the fore front
clever wasp
or "You're on Mars, there are zombies and demons, here's a gun, RIP AND TEAR"
or "INSERT COIN"
acoustic oriole
that's the way I like it
acoustic oriole
probably
thin sphinx
we are strying from dusk
clever wasp
I mean it's all just a tangent to compare Dusk to other things
we're not privy to the full story yet either way
thin sphinx
ah
clever wasp
all we know is that there is Duskdude, who once went to Dusk in search of treasure
suddenly FLOATING CULTISTS
acoustic oriole
DUSK is weird af
in a good way
you don't know what the hell is happening
which is probably what Duskdude feels
clever wasp
one thing that is good with this kind of (lack of) story is that, you really don't need to
which ironically is probably more realistic than it should logically be
you deal with the immediate situation first in those cases
acoustic oriole
I like games where the environment is its own form of storytelling
clever wasp
the lore, quite literally, takes a back seat
especially when you're pursued by cultists/demons/children of whatever is behind AMID EVIL's plot/sentient turtles who may or may not be able to fly depending on level layout and shell color
thin sphinx
dusk does have a lot of those you've stumbled upon something terrible moments
kind of like quake but it hits those beats way louder where quake has a gentle creeping drone
clever wasp
and even then, Quake doesn't really go out of its way to explain what you see
last I checked there is no "real" interconnection between the episodes in Q1
it's just Ranger dimension hopping (more or less) in the hopes of going back home
Dusk installs the cult flair in EP1
takes it off in EP2 to say there is some sort of military force behind it
then (apparently) puts it back on in EP3 to introduce the (presumably) demons who used the other two camps as pawns
clever wasp
I mean there is infighting, and more often than not by the end of E1M8 they are shooting at each other
mild chasm
Infighting means nothing as to the loyalties of an enemy
And besides that, they never start out shooting the cultists and crap is what I was pointing out
Big John is probably just insane though
clever wasp
is there anything in game pointing to the Soldiers being possessed, as opposed to them just blindly obeying whoever is in charge of them (who might be possessed himself) ?
mild chasm
There's the fact they don't shoot the cultists, which they would be if they were normal soldiers because the entire point of their presence would very clearly be to keep the cultists at bay
clever wasp
maybe it's part of high command's plan ?
mild chasm
What plan would command have that would not only require them not fighting the cultists
but would somehow make it so that the cultists also don't attack the soldiers
Soldiers are also present in several of the ambushes that include cultists
clever wasp
a mass sacrifice ritual ?
that would pretty much require either camp to not attack each other
and every good demon story has a sacrifice
mild chasm
Why would the military want that to happen, and why would the soldiers be willing to follow these orders if they weren't possessed or otherwise cultists themselves
mild chasm
You've basically never heard any stories about soldiers in wars have you
clever wasp
as for why high command would want that to happen, who says command is not possessed
in wars, sure
this, is not a war
at best, it's black ops (and even then)
mild chasm
It pretty clearly is given the giant screwoff wall around an entire city
there's no way that something of the magnitude presented in Dusk would be capable of even remotely being covered up to the point where it's classified
At best they would have some kind of cover up story that a normal cult with no supernatural bullcrappery set off a dirty bomb or something along those lines in the city leading to quarantine and soldiers posted there
with a government cleanup operation underway as well
Even if they managed to hide it like that somehow despite the sheer scale of it all, this would still very clearly be a shadow war
clever wasp
unless they are the one orchestrating it
you can't wage war against yourself (technically)
mild chasm
If they're the ones orchestrating it why did they set up a giant screwoff wall with guard towers
mild chasm
What's the point of a wall for any reason whatsoever if they're the ones behind the cult bullcrap
they would be too busy spreading it all across the country
clever wasp
perhaps the process to turn someone into a cultist is lengthy
mild chasm
Given the supernatural powers they clearly have available to them, that seems basically impossible
clever wasp
and whoever resist is fed to the Thresher or something
mild chasm
And besides that with the numbers they have, they could easily set about marching through every city in every state across the country and putting boots to the heads of every person around and saying "join up or die"
You have to jump through so many hoops to get to "the military and the cult are in cahoots" whereas the explanation of soldiers being possessed is one quick step and makes the most logical sense
EP1 has you going through the ruins of the countryside of Dusk making your way to the main city
EP2 has you going through military installments which seem to be for studying the crap found in the digsite and processing stuff likely for energy similar to how Argent energy was processed from Hell
Chances are that once they dug too far it went all Lovecraft and boom cult popped up and then the giant screwoff wall and stuff are to keep people out and all the cult and lovecraftian bullcrap in
EP3 is essentially Dusk Dude making his way to the heart of it all, the eponymous Nameless City is probably some ancient inhuman city a la Lovecraft (R'lyeh, the Elder Thing city, or most obviously the Nameless City) that humans stumbled upon by accident just like in Lovecraft's books.
Really, Dusk is actually just a far more action packed version of a Lovecraft story, and everything makes a lot more sense when you look at it as such
clever wasp
the thing is, Lovecraftian stories are usually characterized by how completely powerless the protagonists are against the occult forces
"completely powerless" is up there with the terms you'd not use to describe Duskdude, along with "ineffective", "useless", and "toothpaste"
woeful sonnet
@clever wasp play the game on duskmare
clever wasp
I run pacifist%, I already have enough issues as it is
woeful sonnet
On intruder mode
clever wasp
pacifist intruder, otherwise called "Hell no" in some cultures
woeful sonnet
Just wait for modding somebody will take away all the guns and all you will be able to do is flip your flashlight at your enemies
clever wasp
great, basically the sequel to Dead by Daylight
woeful sonnet
FANCY TWIRLING INTESIFIES
clever wasp
nah, so far my Dusk related program goes getting top10 in pacifist%, getting an actually decent time in any% inbounds, and eventually if I have the skills for it, make my own mod
neither of which are possible right now
clever wasp
different tastes
I for one find it hard to enjoy most games if I'm not running them
or in the case of fighting games, competing
I only enjoy stuff if I go in at 100% (or more)
mild chasm
Actually when I think of Lovecraft I think of stories where overall everyone everywhere is screwed no matter what, but on a smaller scale you can totally live to fight another day depending on what you end up facing
Like if a shoggoth shows up you're pretty much doomed
But if it's a deep one or deep one hybrid they're really really tough but you can kill them
Hell, Cthulhu was taken out by a boat albeit temporarily
And he's a Great Old One, essentially an outright god
Also every enemy at this point in Dusk isn't even some kinda freaky fish person
Just cultists
and animals corrupted by the cult
Oh yeah, excepting the Wendigo
The wendigo is more in line with a lovecraft monster that's all freaky and stuff but you can kill it
And then the Guardian is either a lovecraftian monster thing that shoved a mortar onto it's arm, or it's some kinda cultist experiment
clever wasp
the Wendigo might actually be demons
the Guardian is some sort of living homage to the Cyberdemon
(except unlike Old Cy, the Guardian is both a pushover, and completely bypassable)
mild chasm
The cyberdemon is WAY more of a pushover than the guardian
you circlestrafe him as he slowly fires bursts of 3 rockets
The guardian spams the hell out of you at least and is likely to catch you offguard in terms of it's arena
but yeah other than those 2 guys, and both are more of a maybe, we have basically no proper eldritch horror style enemies
EP3 obviously has those
But as of now we've just been fighting humans with magic basically
clever wasp
and the Mamas
mild chasm
I guess the scarecrow isn't human but it's just a scarecrow with a gun, not exactly a deep one
The Mama is very clearly some kind of human-based cult experiment
Oh yeah also there are official names for all of the enemies in EP1 and EP2
It's just hard to find them
Like the goats for instance are called Black Phillips
as I recall the official name for the soldiers is literally "possessed soldier"
clever wasp
everyone has been calling them Regular Johns anyway
haven't seen the name of any EP2 enemies beside the Wendigos
mild chasm
The guys with welder masks who shoot fireballs at you are called Welders, the regular enemy versions of the Mama are called Cowgirls, big boy mages who fire homing energy balls are called Grand Wizards, and the scientists are just called Scientists
clever wasp
we need a (possibly in-game) Duskonomicon for background info on those we rivet all day long
winged otter
sadly Dusk in game codex was scrapped
winged otter
i agree...but in Amid Evil codex works
vast tangle
If anything, that's something for a post-release update
opal plover
it works in amid evil because it's a fantasy tale
dusk however is full of misterious lore the mind might not fully grasp
anyway my theory is that the cult leader has complete control over everyone in the quarantine area
and is tricking the governement
candid coral
am i wrong to not want to play dusk until episode 3 is out?
is it wrong of me to want to experience the awesomeness in full?
mild chasm
No
candid coral
i bought it when it came out but i'm just sittin here itchin
mild chasm
It's not a bad thing to want to wait until you can do it all in one straight experience
Playing through one episode and then realizing you have to wait months for the next one to come out can also easily take you out of the experience
but then you already beat that episode and there's a new one so there's not a very good reason to go back through that episode to get the proper experience
opal plover
I'm thinking, am I the only one who thinks the guardian would be 10x better if he had more health and the two sides were bigger?
like if it felt more like a chase/hardcore bomberman
mild ginkgo
It's supposed to feel like a chase but nobody likes to move
mild chasm
When I first fought the guardian I didn't realize that there was anywhere to go
I thought it was just that tiny arena
so imagine the look on my face when he started shooting mortars at an RPM of 700
and imagine the look on my face when after I finally managed to kill it using dodging maneuvers I didn't even think I could pull off and then walked into one of the portals to the other area and realized that they were a part of the fight
mild ginkgo
It'd probably work better if he teleported away at 50% so that the players actually move
opal plover
teleported away to where?
prisma kestrel
speaking of, i wonder how many people have noticed that the two side hallways are Blood and Bone themed
mild ginkgo
If you play the fight "correctly," it's chaotic and exciting
opal plover
I mean him only spawning in the hallways was already a sacrifice to the gardian character
mild ginkgo
But it's hard to encourage
opal plover
well it's just short innit
mild ginkgo
We had to put his initial spawn in the hallways
Otherwise players would just fight him in the center
opal plover
yes I know
mild ginkgo
I'm sure it's something we'll examine again on a final pass through the game
woeful sonnet
What might also have worked is making it so that the player is randomly teleported to one of the areas at random intervals during the fight
mild chasm
A good boss fight doesn't need to be 50 minutes long
woeful sonnet
True but it does make the fun last longer
mild ginkgo
One of the realities of dusk enemies is that they all only have one attack,so making interesting encounters can be tricky
steady aurora
Making me think of the Okami boss fight that lasts nearly an hour
mild chasm
Not necessarily, awesreek
woeful sonnet
Depends on the boss really
mild ginkgo
But also we have to cater to pacifist as well
Which makes boss fights particularly tricky to design
mild chasm
If the boss doesn't have a pattern and phases then all that a big health bar does is make it feel like a slog
hell if a boss just has a pattern that makes a drawn out boss fight fun
frozen heart
is that due to a limitation or just a design decision by David?
mild ginkgo
Pretty sure just a design decision
There's no reason they couldn't have more than one attack
They just don't....currently
I mean I suppose doom enemies pretty much also only have one attack
frozen heart
theoretically
mild ginkgo
So he may be emulating that
mild ginkgo
That's why I said pretty much
mild ginkgo
Heh
mild chasm
But they're two attacks
frozen heart
like if a baron starts to throw a fireball but you smash into him just before he throws it you get the scratch
mild chasm
funny enough though I bet you could easily recycle the wizard orb shooting animation for a punch attack
frozen heart
i believe
frozen heart
the inverse is also true for most doom enemies
if you touch them they will instantly do their "melee" attack
but if you pull out of range
they will throw their fireball
the revenant being the exception due to having an actual melee attack
mild chasm
I imagine the cart dogs in EP3 can actually just bite you as well as charge attack you
It'd be kinda weird for them of all enemies to not be able to do two attacks
frozen heart
those guys caught me by surprise
winged otter
that cart dogs are wierd...how this enemy is in practice?
winged otter
how many new enemies? 3?
frozen heart
lots
mild chasm
Given EP2 had about 5 or 6 new enemies, that'd be kinda lame
So I can't imagine that it's only 3
winged otter
no new weapons i guess?
mild chasm
It's already been stated that new weapons aren't planned
David may or may not change his mind later on but as of now, nope
frozen heart
i'd be down for an Unmaker style weapon
always loved that concept
the actual unmaker is ass
but the concept of a secret weapon that can be powered up through further secrets
mild chasm
I've said it before several times but I would really love a cultist spellbook as a plasma rifle type weapon myself
mild ginkgo
i think its 6 new enemies
at least 6, might be more
i forget off the top
i can think of 6 immediately
crisp lion
And Flaming Heads as well.
Well whatever the t-pose guy is.
winged otter
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heretic/images/f/fe/Wizard.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140505153131
something like this?
serene sandal
I can't wait for the T-Pose mod
mild chasm
Bone Wizard and Bone Monk are both cheesy 80s medieval fantasy porno flick names I guarantee it or your money goes into my wallet
jade root
Make sure you practice your Touhou doom skills. Boneball will put those to the test
crisp lion
Guaranteed DUSKMARE instant BTFO'er
jade root
E3MS2 uses them a lot
crisp lion
Secret Level confirmed?!?
wheat zinc
Have you guys thought about Multiplayer Endless Survival?
balmy sluice
Im hoping it becomes a thing
opaque spindle
I know coop will be a thing
wheat zinc
:o
wheat zinc
Oh shit
That'd be awesome! Now If only my friends could see how great this game is...
opaque spindle
mild chasm
If they don't see it now, they'll probably see it once DAWN, the SDK launches
which'll more than likely be some time after EP3
amber karma
I just finished the first 8 levels. Super fun so far.
eternal fulcrum
Cool
opal plover
okay from what Jab said we can assume that E3MS2 is a flesh level that uses the twitching ulcer texture cleverly and has a ton of those bone balls.
clever wasp
and then plot twist, it's Big John's house
clever wasp
I hope it does spread, I would love to see fast arena shooters make a comeback
gritty herald
This is really cool
And yes, i believe arena shooters will come back at some point
The FPS games of today have become pretty colorful and imaginative again, considering the cod fad from last decade is finally over
fast spire
Oh shit, new Civvie vid
viral gate
Haven't seen this bloke before, got some more videos to watch now ๐
real trail
Where is the news about dusk, developers? Are you going to develop this game?
opal plover
no it's cancelled
opal plover
god help us
graceful wing
What game was dusk again? I forgot
jade root
The one we cancelled
graceful wing
Ooh right that one
crisp lion
M6 - M9 still being twiddled with?
graceful wing
I'm just going to say that the full episode is "playable"
jade root
"""""Playable""""""
crisp lion
now do fifty checks that take 1 more year of dev time.
jade root
The levels still need a lot of work
crisp lion
and spam Soonโข and dusk is cancel
jade root
I'm not even gonna say soon
graceful wing
By playable I mean most of them can be finished
jade root
Eventuallyโข
graceful wing
They're nowhere near actually done
crisp lion
Before Christmas.
slate edge
B efore heat death of the universe
vast tangle
So, this autumn is a good bet for a release date, I'd bet
graceful wing
I dunno lol
slate edge
Around Q4 2018 maybe
viral gate
graceful wing
In 2019 at the latest is all I've got
prisma kestrel
2019 is a meme year
vale oar
WIDโข
vast tangle
AKA
vale oar
doosk will never be released.
vale oar
Susk sucks.
graceful wing
Susk ducks
crimson folio
Dusk has been cancelled in 2004 go home guys
There is nothing here but lies and illusion
fast wigeon
the entire server is an elaborate ARG
crimson folio
The lies of the Jedi to be specific
fast wigeon
dusk is actually a fictional game
fast wigeon
^
crimson folio
Thanks shill for breaking the tension of the L I E S of the Jedi.
mild chasm
EP3 has that snowy stuff going on at least at one point so christmas it is
confirmed, canon, take my word for it
mild chasm
It's the same thing
Satan comes down to give all the little kids presents as they freeze to death
except for the bad kids who get thrown in the trunk of his 2004 Honda Accord
and are never seen again
elder scaffold
I just wanna play coop with some bros
jade root
coming sooon
fast wigeon
*eventually
elder scaffold
One wonders. is cooped something thats finalized before final level creation, or after final level creation
fast wigeon
coop is post launch
elder scaffold
in terms of development
eternal fulcrum
*never