#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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crisp lion
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it's basically a silver glock(TM)

sly path
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Well, like they said, he forgot the hammer.

prisma halo
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I mean it's just a bunch of rectancular prisms slotted together to vaguely resemble a pistol, and then with a makarov texture on top

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you could say it looks like almost any pistol

opal plover
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The underside of the front part(don't know what it's called) goes upward though

sly path
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But yeah, most semi auto pistols these days look the same.

crisp lion
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yeah tbf it's got the texture of a makarov, the shape of a glock, and looks like the prior with heavy M1911

mild ginkgo
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ok but you are only looking at the top portion

opal plover
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Real question is

mild ginkgo
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the rest of it IS shaped like a makarov

opal plover
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What the fuck is the current one

mild ginkgo
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you are full blinders

prisma halo
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the current one is a pistol

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๐Ÿ˜

mild ginkgo
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glocks, which this gun is not, are squared throughout, and the makarov has a subtle curved feature on the front underside, which david expertly replicated in his artistic recreation of the makarov

opal plover
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Anyway is swiching the color of the fog mid-level in dusk possible?

mild ginkgo
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yes

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totally

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as well as density, etc

prisma halo
sly path
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Radical.

crisp lion
sly path
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Because who cares about exact model matching.

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Other than gun nuts.

prisma halo
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Clearly the M is for Makarov, duh

sly path
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Exactly.

crisp lion
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Makarov1911

vale oar
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Coltarov

opal plover
mild ginkgo
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im pretty certain there are actually some areas where he has changed the fogged in game

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so its likely he just made that choice, and preferred the look

opal plover
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Like which?

mild ginkgo
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that area went through several iterations

opal plover
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I see

crisp lion
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interesting

opal plover
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Where is the fog changed though?

mild ginkgo
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well i cant reveal that

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:)

opal plover
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Oh ok

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E3M7

vale oar
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YES YOU CAN ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

opal plover
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If I answered the wrong level he would have said something.

mild ginkgo
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no im not that easy to bait

opal plover
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Gosh darn

mild ginkgo
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sadly we lost this cool part

crisp lion
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what was the area that tunnel led into though?

mild ginkgo
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yes

crisp lion
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perhaps

opal plover
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I mean couldn't it have had the door to the Escher labs at the bottom

mild ginkgo
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well no because theres more to it

crisp lion
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hmm

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Really gets the clock ticking

opal plover
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How much more though

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Like an entire combat section

mild ginkgo
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ok holy shit note to self never play that level again

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ear rape

opal plover
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lemme

crisp lion
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? ? ?

opal plover
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guess

crisp lion
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Swoldigos

opal plover
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like a ton of wendigos

mild ginkgo
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nah

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Thumpers that are stuck in geometry and spamming their slam down sound

crisp lion
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fucking thanks for reminding me of a similar bug in Half-Life.

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get stuck of a map load, and you hear the spammed walking sound

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F

opal plover
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Any other cool screenshots you can show us?

vale oar
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whole ep3 playthrough as slideshow :3

mild ginkgo
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ok

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ill show you the entirety of ep3

balmy sluice
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Manniacc when ep3 comes out: "oh, I've already seen all of this"

vale oar
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MEMEZ

mild ginkgo
prisma halo
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inb4 screenshot of map files

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FUCKING

mild ginkgo
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lmao

crisp lion
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X D

mild ginkgo
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he called it

vale oar
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Now open 'em all

crisp lion
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bahaha good luck

jade root
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Hey guys look

mild ginkgo
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i mean thats just lightmap data

jade root
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2 E3MS's

crisp lion
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BAHAHAAAHAHA XD

opal plover
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Show us the lightmap of E3M10

mild ginkgo
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3 e3m5's

crisp lion
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got em

opal plover
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We'll analize the shit out of it

sly path
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Show us screenshots of the map with lambert shading only.

jade root
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Triple the gameplay

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It's insane

sly path
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Like, just a wall with lambert shading.

mild ginkgo
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sure

jade root
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You play three levels at the same time

mild ginkgo
crisp lion
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XD

jade root
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Cause you exist in 3 dimensions

sly path
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Radical.

crisp lion
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You just got baited

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XDDDDDDDD

mild ginkgo
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nah i will not reveal e3m10

sly path
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That was more than I was asking for.

crisp lion
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#real/r/HotlineMiami hours

mild ginkgo
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obv

opal plover
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Show us like a wall from E3MS, like no new textures just a texture we already know of with like no interesting lighting

sly path
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You're leaking info 500, soon Dave's going to have you on his hit list.

mild ginkgo
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youve already seen e3mS

vale oar
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Meanwhile, 500 accidently deletes all ep3 folders...

mild ginkgo
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there was one screenshot of it

balmy sluice
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You guys will see all of it when it comes out, then you can look at all the walls you want!

mild ginkgo
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^

opal plover
vale oar
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mmm

mild ginkgo
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nope

sly path
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Yeah, but we won't be able to see the walls in textureless lambert shading.

opal plover
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Like did David post it on twitter?

vale oar
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OKAY GUYS TIME TO GUESS

crisp lion
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It'll be Nos

mild ginkgo
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all i will say is that it has been posted somewhere at some point in time

vale oar
mild ginkgo
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i wont answer anything else about it

vale oar
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Fuk.

opal plover
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Nah that's E3M6?...

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Maybeeee?....

vale oar
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maaaybeeee...

crisp lion
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maybebaby

crimson folio
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so i tried dusk with a xbox one controller

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handles not that bad

opal plover
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Yeah tried it once.

mild ginkgo
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just make sure to turn on some auto aim

crimson folio
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yeah did

mild ginkgo
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and then it actually plays really well

crimson folio
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only problem was bhopping

opal plover
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Compeletely forgot everything about the experience but it was nice.

mild ginkgo
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i think walk and crouch will be swapped in the end

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but thats about it

vale oar
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NES joypad support when

opal plover
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Anyway can we talk about like cut stuff instead of memeing about E3

vale oar
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No.

jade root
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I'll cut you

mild ginkgo
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lol

jade root
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:kno fe:

opal plover
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No u

jade root
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Oh

crisp lion
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just play dusk with a Toaster

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good shit

jade root
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๐Ÿ”ช

opal plover
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๐Ÿ˜  ๐Ÿ—ก

mild ginkgo
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does the bot still have the problem command

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.problem

crisp lion
crimson folio
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just hope the jumping can be handled a little better for the people playing on switch or other consoles if that will happen.

mild ginkgo
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rip

jade root
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!problem

jade root
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Smh Scott

mild ginkgo
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oh its !

jade root
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!!!

mild ginkgo
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whatever its 6am im tired

jade root
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You aren't gonna sleep anyway

mild ginkgo
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@crimson folio what would you change about it?

crimson folio
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im trying to think

sly path
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Make sure you get some sleep 500, never good being up too late.

mild ginkgo
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i really like the way it works currently, but certainly willing to listen to feedback about it

crimson folio
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because personally the most fun i had out of dusk was flying through levels at mass speeds

mild ginkgo
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i find im able to bhop really well

jade root
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It's hard to jump and aim

mild ginkgo
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well the switch will likely have a gyro controls option

jade root
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But you can do what dying light does and make jump a trigger or bumper

mild ginkgo
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so maybe that will solve your aim issues

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oh see i use tekken fingers

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i use the knuckle of my pointer finger to press face buttons

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so i can keep my thumb on the stick

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reallly picked that up from dark souls

jade root
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Oof

balmy sluice
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I do the same, can't remember where I got it from

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It's dope once you get used to it

mild ginkgo
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^

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its definitely not ideal for everyone

crimson folio
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im just having a little trouble switching dierections from left to right or right to left on the movement stick while keeping speeds

mild ginkgo
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we'll have several different control mappings in all likelihood

crimson folio
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whoopsie

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haha

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im sorry game

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there is more than one by the way

opal plover
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Have like a bumpers to strafe option

crimson folio
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nice

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lovely

mild ginkgo
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interesting, ill take note of it and see if theres a way to improve it, i cant say i have the same issue, but im likely much more used to it, and for normal people, its not ideal

crimson folio
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i'm still trying to think on how purpose the a solution to bhop to help people who haven't probably haven't done said movement while not making just hold jump lol

opal plover
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Can we like talk about something

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I don't want this conversation to end

mild ginkgo
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lol

crimson folio
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k

mild ginkgo
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we can talk about dusk epsiode 4

crimson folio
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maybe add a small grace period for switching left to right or right to left while bhoping

opal plover
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WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE, 500 you mentioned a switch of fog color in an E3 level

mild ginkgo
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just to be clear, bhopping doesnt require strafe switching in dusk

crimson folio
opal plover
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I think I might just know what's up

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If I'm right we might have not seen E3M6 yet

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which is good

crimson folio
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im just talking about switching directions while hopping

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after holding left to then go right

mild ginkgo
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well you arent right in what youre thinking, but you are right that you havent seen e3m6

crimson folio
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i feel i'm phrasing this wrong

mild ginkgo
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are you losing speed or something? that sounds weird

opal plover
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Glad to know we haven't seen the latter half of the nameless city

mild ginkgo
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theres no speed penalty for switching strafes

crimson folio
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So naturally when i do the movement on pc i want to look foward the entire time

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so i just hold A+W then go to D+W and repeat so im not messing around with looking too much

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im trying to do the same movement on a controller

mild ginkgo
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what i would do is hit bhop speed

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then just hold forward

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you dont even need to have a strafe once you hit the threshold

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but either way, i guess we can see about somehow supporting that playstyle better

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i mean, the stick equivalent of that movement should work

crimson folio
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i'm still messing around with it

mild ginkgo
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im not sure where you are running into an issue with that

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is the stick too slow?

crimson folio
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its that small second where i have to move the stick to upper left from upper right that is messing me up a little bit

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it's a very minor thing

mild ginkgo
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so its just too difficult to make that movement with the stick?

crimson folio
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bhoping is probably on a controller lol

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i'm probably over thinking this

mild ginkgo
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no no

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i like the feedback

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it will help us a lot

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being able to understand the issues people have will only help us make a better game

crimson folio
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imma keep screwing around with the movement on sawdust

mild ginkgo
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i will definitely play around with it and see if i can find out if theres a way to solve your issue without the answer just being "get good"

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heh thats funny

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that level is where i was testing bhopping on the switch

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kind of more difficult than it would seem because the ground is really uneven, and theres lots of shit in the way

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but a good place to test

crimson folio
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probably because its very hopping freindly

mild ginkgo
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erebus or something like that is probably a little nicer

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big johns arena

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just a massive flat open area

crimson folio
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One minor thing I would want in Dusk is to have autosaves at the start of each level? for nonsavers like me that would be nice. I sometimes forget to save at the start of a level

mild ginkgo
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well you unlock the level in level select when you get there now

opal plover
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But it does though

mild ginkgo
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so you can always just go there

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does it? i dont even keep track of the save system

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i dont really save in dusk

opal plover
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Nah I think I'm wrong actually

crimson folio
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duskworld is going to be consoles or nah?

opal plover
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Switch

mild ginkgo
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not sure yet

opal plover
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And maybe others

mild ginkgo
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we might do local split screen

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that could be fun

crimson folio
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that could actually work

crisp lion
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Duskworld and Dusk should be merged on consoles as one thing

mild ginkgo
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should be?

opal plover
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As in?

mild ginkgo
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have to be.

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you cant have two separate games lol

crisp lion
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well DUH

prisma halo
crimson folio
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it does unlock in level select, but you'd have to set up your load out. It's like, i dont remmeber what guns i used to have and I dont really want to cheat

crisp lion
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O O F

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also known as

opal plover
mild ginkgo
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e1mS - old

crisp lion
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S O M E B O D Y T H I N K O F T H E C H I L D R E N area

crimson folio
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I lost some progress one time because i was like crap, didnt save lol

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had to load a couple of map back

opal plover
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Speaking of, would coop be in dusk or duskworld?

jade root
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I love the old e1ms but I'm glad it's out cause the real e1ms is my favorite dusk level

crisp lion
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both?

mild ginkgo
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uncertain at this time

prisma halo
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@jade root same

opal plover
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I honestly dont see the big deal with the dim slough

jade root
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(Indifferent)

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It's just my atmosphere fetish

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Dank ass swamp with a storm in the distance

mild ginkgo
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its got a very nice atmo

jade root
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It's ๐Ÿ‘Œ

opal plover
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I dunno in terms of athmo there's other levels

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I like its visuals though

crisp lion
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real E2M4 hours

jade root
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Glowy swamps are still my favorite thing too

crimson folio
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i have good hopes for dusk on switch

jade root
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You should

mild ginkgo
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yeah we would like for it to be a good experience

prisma halo
jade root
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Cause it's gon b lit

mild ginkgo
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and offer something that the switch doesnt have

opal plover
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It's got that lil area you teleport to too

prisma halo
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yep

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lol

jade root
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I still need to convince Scott to just put the effort in and make the controls rebindable but I'll get there

prisma halo
crimson folio
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now i got a good question for switch verison will there be a classic aiming mode?

shut mesa
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slim dough

jade root
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Classic aiming?

mild ginkgo
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i think he means like doom

crimson folio
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yeah

jade root
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Oh

prisma halo
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probably not lol

mild ginkgo
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doubtful

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very doubtful

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the best we have is high autoaim

crisp lion
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@prisma halo is that a collapsed haus?

opal plover
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Nah like a tunnel

mild ginkgo
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but i wont rule it out

jade root
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With the rebindable controls tho it could jury rig it

prisma halo
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yeah it's a collapsed tunnel or something

mild ginkgo
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it depends on what dave wants to do with it

prisma halo
crimson folio
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im going to actually try that right now and see how well that will go for me

opal plover
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I can imagine of old E1MS made the cut it would have had a slow industrial track with some piano mixed into it

jade root
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Speaking of rebindable controls I still need to bug the Dead Cells devs about that

crimson folio
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probably not well

crisp lion
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the old E1MS looks less like a Swamp, and more like a Lake.

opal plover
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Who said it was supposed to be a swamp?

rare musk
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lakes are just groundless swamps tbh

opal plover
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Yes it's the qc ost

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crucify me

crimson folio
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so i tired looking only left and right on dusk with keyboard auto aim

mild ginkgo
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why would you be?

crimson folio
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one killer

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rat

mild ginkgo
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andrew is on the QC OST now

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so its not like youre far off

opal plover
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I know

mild ginkgo
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rats are the true enemy

crimson folio
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Duskmare*

crisp lion
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DUSKdude: I fear no man. But that Thing....

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DUSKdude: It Scares Me.

crimson folio
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so what is the correct visual settings to play dusk?

mild ginkgo
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limited palette on

opal plover
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clown vomit

mild ginkgo
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pixelization 2-3

opal plover
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bilinear filtering

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bloom on

mild ginkgo
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thats the intended setting

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no stop

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pls

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(although i like bloom)

opal plover
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"thats the intended setting" you heard him first

crisp lion
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light flares are kinda fine

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till you can see them through walls

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ugh

opal plover
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flares are intended right?

mild ginkgo
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yes they are

opal plover
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Like for the true experience

mild ginkgo
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and you can only see them through walls on fade

jade root
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I play with the vivid present and bloom

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It's epic

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;)

crisp lion
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pixel 2, limited palette, light flares, and Quask

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my aesthetic

crimson folio
opal plover
crisp lion
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If DUSK was made in 2009

vale oar
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fuk bloom

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fuk bilinear filter

crisp lion
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like every game of 2005-2010

opal plover
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Bloom can suck my fucking dick

mild ginkgo
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i do

crisp lion
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Y E L L O W EVERYWHERE!!!!

opal plover
mild ginkgo
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hell yes

opal plover
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This is horrible

crisp lion
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all it does is sell yay, and look weird all over the place

mild ginkgo
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looks way better that way

opal plover
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It's the peepee zone

mild ginkgo
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i will agree to disagree

crisp lion
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The Tower of Babel's claim to fame is not it's great height, or architectural revolution.

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but it's magnificent golden showers!

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( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

opal plover
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Make the fountains in neobabel yellow @thorn trout

crimson folio
opal plover
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Seriously though I don't think bloom fits the "temple barely disguised as a lab" esthetic

crimson folio
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bloom ๐Ÿ˜‚

mild ginkgo
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i like it, but i understand why people dont

opal plover
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Oh shit it's witchfire or whatever that game was called

crimson folio
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i want super ultra mega MOTION BLUR like minecraft shader packs

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and that gmod effect

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who doesnt love motion blur

mild ginkgo
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theres a video of that somewhere

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i think @prisma halo still has it

crimson folio
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can we have some very extreme DOF as well please

crisp lion
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Bump maps were planned at one point FYI

mild ginkgo
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i think its called killme.mp4

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it has all postprocessing cranked

prisma halo
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I do

mild ginkgo
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its horrible

crimson folio
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so i went to neobabel with my color settings

mild ginkgo
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looks like midnight ultra

crimson folio
crimson folio
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who wouldnt want to do that

opal plover
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Oh yeah that's the game I was talking about

prisma halo
crimson folio
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wow

crisp lion
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how do I achieve that daddy @prisma halo

crimson folio
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the cinematic mod

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haha

prisma halo
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by being scott

mild ginkgo
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lmao

crisp lion
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add it in

mild ginkgo
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if you look closely

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you can see thats the duskworld version of aerowlk

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lol

crimson folio
mild ginkgo
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woah

crimson folio
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oh gibs are completey black

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this is tripine me out wtf

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tripping*

crisp lion
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E D G Y C O L O U R S E T B R O

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was gonna make a spicy extension, but it'd be too hot4handle for the mod vros

sick lintel
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@dim valve yea i did

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did epibobe 3 get released yet?

crisp lion
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N O

sick lintel
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;(

opal plover
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If I were you I'd wait until late august to be concerned about Ep 3's release date

mild ginkgo
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what are people gonna meme about when ep3 IS released

opal plover
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Amid Evil

crisp lion
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episode 3 is just memes

crimson folio
opal plover
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Turn on the flashlight you dummy

crimson folio
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darkness imprisoning me

opal plover
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I don't understand

crimson folio
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all that i see

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ABSOLUTE HORROR

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starting to look like a windows media player visualisation

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idk anymore

opal plover
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Duskthetics

crimson folio
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i remember this visualisation

sick lintel
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episode 3 is dabbing leathernecks

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dont @ me

crimson folio
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Episode 3 is a series of 10 sewer levels where the enemies are exclusively rats

opal plover
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10?

fast wigeon
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its the sewer section from e1ms copy and pasted to make a giant maze for 11 levels

crimson folio
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ooo sounds good

opal plover
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But what about the secret level though?

fast wigeon
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a remake of nuts.wad with entirely rats

crimson folio
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so my google search changes into 585-5 after i type something

opal plover
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100,000 grand wizards

fast wigeon
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infinite grand wizards

crimson folio
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why did i say 10 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ what a noob

opal plover
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The grand wizard problem

fast wigeon
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to me theyll always just be revanant wizards

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because thats basically what they are

crimson folio
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an unkillable big john that has been scaled 3 times it's size and fires rivets

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Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
And stars fill my dream

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I find it weird you can kind of skip all the bosses

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I did not kill big john

fast wigeon
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its so you can get the pacifist reward

opal plover
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^

fast wigeon
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which is a stupid idea tbh

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they shouldnt have to compromise good boss design just so they can have a bonus achievement

crimson folio
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but theres like no reason to fight any of the bosses is there?

fast wigeon
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nope

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unless youre going for the completionist reward

opal plover
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David just hates bosses

crimson folio
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o

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who the hell doesn't like fragging a boss?

fast wigeon
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the bosses in dusk are kind of bad

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except big john and im not saying that as a meme

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hes the only boss that has more than one attack

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the rest are just one trick ponys

crimson folio
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I need to go back and fight Big John

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so my google search is bugged lol

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stop breaking everything @crimson folio

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it keeps changing the bar

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to 585-5

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i have no clue why lmao

opal plover
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No but that's like the actual explanation, it's actually David who hates bosses in general

crimson folio
#

whats wrong with bosses

opal plover
#

They're tedious

fast wigeon
#

well not really tedious

#

theyre too short is my issue

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and too easy

crimson folio
#

They're good in dark souls

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They're good when its just a shadow version of you

opal plover
#

I meant what David thinks in general

fast wigeon
#

oh

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he hasnt played many good bosses then

crimson folio
#

lol

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In first person shooter games they tend to be not great

fast wigeon
#

ye

opal plover
#

Anyway the guardian is one of the better ones because Dave had some input on it

crimson folio
#

i dont know any good FPS bosses off the top of my head

opal plover
#

Honestly I liked doom 4's bosses

fast wigeon
#

ye that had good bosses actually

#

from what i remember

crimson folio
#

i still havent played it

fast wigeon
#

i never finished doom 4

#

i get burned out on it too quickly

crimson folio
#

it just looked not great to me

#

I stopped playing it after a couple of minutes

fast wigeon
#

it is fun but its really repetitive

mild ginkgo
#

strafes boss was actually really decent

fast wigeon
#

never played strafe

opal plover
#

What were they like?

mild ginkgo
#

but yeah retro fps bosses all suck pretty much

crimson folio
#

how about the spider mastermind eh

#

what a boss

mild ginkgo
#

lol

opal plover
#

ONE BFG SHOT

crimson folio
#

time to use all my skills

#

everything ive learnt

#

its all built up to this

mild ginkgo
#

dusk bosses are no better, and no worse

fast wigeon
#

i love it when map designers use spider masterminds as normal mini-boss type enemies too

opal plover
#

Anyway at this rate I like Ep1's bosses more than Ep2's

mild ginkgo
#

and at least you can skip them

fast wigeon
#

atleast dusk doesnt have hitscanners tho

crimson folio
#

its an artistic statement

opal plover
#

Cause the gameplay on neither of them is really good

#

So Ep1 has the better world building bosses

#

Also are Ep3's bosses better than Ep 2's?

fast wigeon
#

i mean they gotta be

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with the time theyre taking

opal plover
#

Gameplay wise

crimson folio
#

a shadow version of yourself would be cool? maybe i dont know

fast wigeon
#

ehhh

mild ginkgo
#

implying that extra time is being spent on bosses

crimson folio
#

i guess thats just the multiplayer though

fast wigeon
#

i mean it would basically make you fight a really fast hitscanner enemy

#

which doesnt sound fun

crimson folio
#

o true

opal plover
#

You fight yourself in the traumatic flashback to your childhood, he's the physical manifestation of your inner demons

fast wigeon
#

i think shadow enemys work better in action games with combos n stuff

#

or with melee combat

crimson folio
#

fair enough

#

virgil boss battle for life

opal plover
#

Anyway you better fight the actual living being in the flesh level as a boss

fast wigeon
#

i honestly cant wait to see what the cult leader looks like

#

and fight him

opal plover
#

Except you did 2 times

fast wigeon
#

what

opal plover
#

see him I mean

fast wigeon
#

when

crimson folio
#

i was just thinking how skipping the bosses in dusk is kind of like skipping all the cyberdemons in doom 2, you really dont have to fight them

opal plover
#

In the paintings

fast wigeon
#

i dont think that will be his actual design

opal plover
#

Non beliver

fast wigeon
#

considering the "cult leader" painting is actually a real painting

opal plover
#

Except it's a picture

fast wigeon
#

you mean this right

opal plover
#

Shitty resolution sorry

fast wigeon
#

oooohh

#

ye of course

#

dave is the cult leader

crimson folio
#

thats an infectious smile

#

: D

opal plover
#

Honestly I wouldn't even be surprised if that's actually what he looks like before like gaining his monstrous form or whatever

fast wigeon
#

if hes just a bigger version of the grand mages tho

opal plover
#

Altough I doubt the cult leader is actually Dave or a human

#

Because it just wouldn't make sense for the big baddie to be human would it

fast wigeon
#

i mean im guessing its going to be some sort of possessed human

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who became demonic when everything went to shit

opal plover
#

I can imagine a two stage bossfight actually

crimson folio
#

come to think of it, there have been some cool ideas in the vinesauce joel doom wad contest

#

there are some cool looking boss battles in peoples wads

#

and some really bad ones

opal plover
#

Like which?

crimson folio
#

There was one when you're fighting another marine who shoots lots of projectiles but I cant really remember which one

opal plover
#

That's boring

crimson folio
#

no hitscans or anything like that but like waves of plasma projectiles that you have to dodge

opal plover
#

That's just the evil marine from scythe 2

fast wigeon
#

what was that wad called with the weird trippy visuals

#

and it had a marine fight

#

it had a pretty good end boss but i cant remember the name of it

crimson folio
#

actually this one wad he played recently had such a lovely twist at the end of it. you're playing as a marine and you get recruited by john romero to kill the doom guy so he teleports you to the end of doom 2 and you have to kill the doom guy

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and become the doom lord

fast wigeon
#

the wad was called void and also that sounds neat

crimson folio
#

the wad contest in general is just so great to watch

#

thats actually what got me back into old school shooters

#

i must have watched so many hours of this dude playing doom 2 wads

#

the ending of Xaseracheron - Dead Air was cool too which was just an arena with heaps of enemies spawning, but its done well

fast wigeon
#

i played a wad called going down fairly recently that was pretty good

#

i only played like 4 levels though

#

and its a megawad

crimson folio
#

I tried the comatose wad? its plain weird

jade root
crimson folio
#

whoops

#

is custom maps in dusk gonna be a thing?

shut mesa
#

ofc

crimson folio
#

Nice

#

would love to see a dusk mapping contest one day

crimson folio
#

and the dusk team streams it or something

vague egret
#

Not too early to start practicing. Others are already mapping for dusk

graceful wing
#

Oh we've got tons of stuff planned

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

crimson folio
#

as Big Kev from australia would say

#

I'm excited

acoustic oriole
#

will ep 3 have wendigos?

graceful wing
#

I don't know B1

acoustic oriole
graceful wing
#

Gotta play to find out

acoustic oriole
#

And play I shall, whenever it's available Leatherneck

opal plover
#

You'd know if you watch the episode 3 first look video

crimson folio
#

Boss battle discussion earlier.... Yeah FPS ones are usually meh. Always so gimmicky.. the best ones are where the boss changes mid battle, or has multiple attacks, has erratic move patterns...

acoustic oriole
#

I tried to avoid seeing too much of the map design

tall ridge
#

Any advice on how to use the mortar? I seem to hurt myself more than my enemies.

crimson folio
#

@tall ridge shoot, then right click when you want it to ASPLODE

acoustic oriole
#

or direct hit your enemies

opal plover
#

Aim away from face and fire

acoustic oriole
#

try not to use it at close range

crimson folio
#

Most iconic boss battles to me were Sidescrollers, but those are always gimmicky.... IF boss does X, THEN player does Y

#

Not just a slugfest

#

Then they become simple to beat

opal plover
#

Anyway @acoustic oriole if you want the answer I can just say it to you.

acoustic oriole
#

what you said basically confirms they're there lul, but thanks

crimson folio
#

A game that had the gimmicky but also the action down is Implosion... You can always be shooting and hitting bosses but the best spots only come open when a boss tires or etc... They are random in how they attack.. yeah you know if it rears up it'll be a certain shot but.... So far Dusks have been ok. I haven't faced an episode 2 one yet

opal plover
#

Jokes on you there's no wendigos lol

acoustic oriole
#

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

opal plover
#

gottem

#

Honestly for old school FPSs idealy a boss would be like doom 4 and have very distinctive different attacks

#

But for dusk they should just be setpieces/add to the lore and worldbuilding

crimson folio
#

Yeah.

opal plover
#

Like my favorite old school boss battle is the stone gargoyle from Blood just because of how great Caleb's lines and tragic sounding the midi track sounds (which fits way better than the cd track) and with something like that you just forget the actual fight.

jaunty meteor
#

Ophelia.... nooooOOOOOOOOH

#

Gargoyle boss is a PITA first time you fight him unless you know pretty much every secret in EP1

#

No plasma caster = GL killing him in a timely manner

prisma halo
#

just crouch

#

lmao

jaunty meteor
#

Yeah but he still takes like 4 minutes to kill!

prisma halo
#

kill the boss with the pitchfork while crouched

slate edge
#

I once played a 'sourceport' of blood and Tchernobog was a rat for some reason instead and killing him triggered the game to end.

#

For some reason I prefer this.

#

Rat with 1 hp

vast tangle
#

Maybe that was not a bug but a homage to Earthworm Jim's final "boss" xD

crimson folio
mild ginkgo
#

thats been found before ;)

#

theres one in pretty much every level

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ˜

mild ginkgo
#

thats where enemies are stored before they teleport in

crimson folio
#

i mean the level name

#

but ok

mild ginkgo
#

well

#

it says it in the top left corner

#

so its not hard to guess

#

:P

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ˜

crimson folio
crimson folio
#

@crimson folio You Flew there with the crossbow ?

#

Where

#

the room with enemys in middair ๐Ÿ‘ ?

#

Also hotfix soon ? โ„ข

#

Y / N โ„ข ?

#

hmm2 ๐Ÿค” delet

#

Guess whos back .. tenenene nenene ....

dim valve
#

ignore the above, cryenogenic. 700+ fps is a classic NB forced meme

crimson folio
#

"classic"

dim valve
#

"ass"

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ˜†

jade root
#

great way to burn out your card

#

but do what you will

dim valve
#

plot twist: cryenogenic only has a 60Hz monitor anyway

mild ginkgo
#

Yes hotfix soon

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ™ƒ ๐Ÿ˜ถ ๐Ÿ˜ต ๐Ÿ‘€

#

heh

#

@dim valve damn you got me

#

But in reality, who buys a 1080Ti and only has a 60Hz Monitor, unless it's 4K

#

damn i cant anymore

#

Wot

#

too funny meme for me fuk

dim valve
#

that's wot

crimson folio
#

oh no

#

das horribel

#

and dont worry

jade root
#

4k is a pretty epic meme

crimson folio
#

I just ordered a 1440p 144Hz monitor

vague egret
#

nice

crimson folio
#

is dusk clothes stock limited ? for this year

vague egret
crimson folio
mild ginkgo
#

Never

crimson folio
#

oof

gleaming berry
#

AND NOW WE WAIT

flat juniper
#

oof that will show him

crimson folio
#

ohhhhhhh thats some strong shit

vale oar
#

Dusk wrestling mod when?

crimson folio
#

ye but only leathernecks, welders and wizards

#

with costumizable skins

#

for MP only

#

@vale oar or for chur a berzerk power up mod

vale oar
#

yup

fast wigeon
#

when will we get to talk to the monsters

vale oar
#

episode 3 whun

crimson folio
#

twitte mr elonmusk๐Ÿ‘€

serene needle
#

elonmusk is actually making ep 3

lean rivet
#

Elon Musk sent ep3 to space :(

opaque spindle
#

He's keeping it to himself

lean rivet
#

Having all the fun

crimson folio
#

every time a journalist picks on elon musk he delays episode 3 a bit more

balmy sluice
#

Every time someone asks for a random wall screenshot from ep3 it delays it by a week

molten peak
#

I want five wallpapers

#

And a Cultist figurine

#

And when I say wallpapers I don't mean for my PC's desk top, I mean paper to actually put on my room's walls

crimson folio
#

one problem with dusk

#

i dont know how to describe it, the sword gets locked into its charge up state, except its not charged up

#

its pretty annoying

molten peak
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

Hasn't happened to me

crimson folio
#

like, it looks like its charged up even though i didnt hold the mouse button

#

but then i attack and its a normal attack

molten peak
#

Maybe verify the game's cache integrity?

crimson folio
#

I'll give it a try

#

happens constantly for me

opal plover
#

That's a known bug

crimson folio
#

ah ok

#

yeah im playing through in duskmare

#

but its pretty easy with save scumming

crimson folio
#

so im still going to argue that quicksaves break the game ๐Ÿ˜‚

#

and theres no incentive to beat the game without saving even though its the most fun and best way to experience the game imo

mild ginkgo
#

people would be very very upset if they couldnt quicksave

#

so the best way to play, is play by your own rules

#

if you dont like saving, just dont do it :)

#

i agree with you 100%

crimson folio
#

its a tough one

#

i just feel like most people would quicksave through the game and not appreciate it fully, thats all

#

like maybe it could just be an option thats off by default and the game mocks you for turning it on haha

#

i feel like for most, I Can Take It with only autosaves at the beginning of the level is a pretty good way to play it

#

Cero Miedo without saves is a bit soul crushing

spare cobalt
#

what

#

losing is fun

mild ginkgo
#

i dont think mocking our customers will earn us any points ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

spare cobalt
#

excluding certain spots going fast usually helps

crimson folio
#

nah just joking about the mocking bit

opal plover
#

It's not like E2M4 and E2M5 outright tells you to save in them

crimson folio
#

The problem with quicksaving is that like

#

you dont have to learn the levels at all

#

and it removes the tension

jade root
#

I mean every game has that

#

its whatever

#

and there isnt anything we can do about it

mild ginkgo
#

i totally agree, and understand

#

i never save in dusk, period

crimson folio
#

but the levels are mostly designed in such a way that you can beat it in one go which is one of the greatest strength of these levels, i think they're fantastically designed

mild ginkgo
#

if i die, i play the whole level over

sly path
#

I tend to complain about quick saving existing but it's mainly my fault that I mash it.

jade root
#

removing it would do more damage than it would fix it

crimson folio
#

im just saying it should maybe be an option thats off by default

mild ginkgo
#

^

jade root
#

or just dont touch f6

mild ginkgo
#

i mean it is an option thats off by default

crimson folio
#

or at least there should be an incentive like an award for not saving

spare cobalt
#

I dont see a reason to delete it

mild ginkgo
#

by not touching the button

#

:P

spare cobalt
#

if you cheat yourself its on you :P

sly path
#

Put like a thumb tack on the quick save button.

jade root
#

thats like getting mad you can type idkfa in doom at any time

sly path
#

Actually don't do that.

jade root
#

just uh

#

dont do it

crimson folio
#

F6 the cheat button

#

press to cheat

mild ginkgo
#

perhaps maybe an achievement for not saving, could be interesting

jade root
#

that would be cool

mild ginkgo
#

but i think that would just piss people off

spare cobalt
#

difficulty where you cant quicksave and its intruder

jade root
#

there isnt an easy solution and the one we have is the best we got

spare cobalt
#

agreed

sly path
#

I wouldn't call quick saving cheating but it certainly makes the game less fun in a way. Though it's a habit I can only blame on myself.

spare cobalt
#

why fix it if it works

jade root
#

i dont save

#

dusk levels are like

#

5 minutes long

#

no reason to do it

spare cobalt
#

especially e1

jade root
#

but if people want to play it like that

spare cobalt
#

but after you know the maps its quick

jade root
#

fine

crimson folio
#

but there are some insta death falls which are pretty annoying if you dont save

spare cobalt
#

๐Ÿคท๐Ÿป

#

might sound stupid but: dont fall in them

jade root
#

lol

crimson folio
#

so the game feels mostly designed for no saves, save for a couple of parts

sly path
#

At first my habit of quick saving starts as like, a way of putting in the occasional checkpoint. Then it slowly devolves into save scumming.

#

But that's just me with a lot of things.

crimson folio
#

i mean its a weird situation of feeling bad for quicksaving but theres actually no reason not to save

#

fucks with your head

spare cobalt
#

I usually use it to just checkpoint stuff

jade root
#

lets just do what fucking Kingdom Come did

spare cobalt
#

has to be a preeeetty desperate situation to start savescumming through a fight

crimson folio
#

-10 brownie points for saving

jade root
#

wanna save? buy an ingame item

crimson folio
#

very disappointed in you

spare cobalt
#

lol

#

wish you scored points and could buy beer with the money

crimson folio
#

or i was even thinking a time limitation on saving so you cant save scum during a fight or something

topaz oracle
#

save points should be toilets

crimson folio
#

cant save every second after killing a new guy

spare cobalt
#

haha

jade root
#

that would make people livid

crimson folio
#

why tho, who are the sickos who love to break games through save scumming? \

jade root
#

we try to not piss people off

spare cobalt
#

or just go with serious sam and limit amount of saves

#

as in you can choose to limit them

sly path
#

I wouldn't call save scumming a bad habit but it's a habit I want to get far away from.

crimson folio
#

well im pissed off because save scumming exists in this game ๐Ÿ˜› what about me/???? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

jade root
#

idk what to tell you lol

#

sorry?

spare cobalt
#

haha

crimson folio
#

thank u i feel better now

sly path
#

But yeah um, Save scumming is something I can only blame on myself.

spare cobalt
#

I'm not really sure what you are pissed at rolvil :D no offence

jade root
#

you can say what you want but it aint gonna change

#

here come david

thorn trout
#

You can choose whether or not to save. If saving didn't exist, people couldn't choose whether or not to save. Dusk is all about player choice.

spare cobalt
#

amen

sly path
#

Pretty much.

spare cobalt
#

besides you can always challenge yourself

#

dont need to be forced

jade root
#

david hows EYE

sly path
#

You only have yourself to blame when you press that shiny quick save button.

spare cobalt
#

I hope your legs are ok

crimson folio
#

Can I at least get a special pat on the back and kiss on the forehead for not saving

topaz oracle
#

just break your F5/F6 buttons

jade root
#

i got something better

#

๐Ÿ–•

#

there u go

opal plover
#

^

spare cobalt
#

xD

crimson folio
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ okkk

thorn trout
#

@crimson folio absolutely. You get major props if you complete Duskmare without saving :)

#

could even be an achievement, MAYBE

#

WE WILL SEE

crimson folio
#

Im watching some speedrun of someone going through Duskmare 100%

#

this is inhuman

#

im just a regular guy with a nice stache

thorn trout
#

@jade root this stupid game is way more addicting than it has any right to be

spare cobalt
#

can you link that?

jade root
#

eye is great

#

specially with friends

spare cobalt
#

I'd like to play eye but I bet majority of people are from US so that would give me a horrible ping :(

#

but thats offtopic

crimson folio
#

Im not a big acheivement guy i just like good experiences

jade root
#

as long as you arent a devil daggers elitest

thorn trout
#

@jade root the insane thing about EYE is underneath all the uber jank there's some really smart combat feel sensibilities. Every weapon is just FUN.

#

but that's off topic

crimson folio
#

this speedrun hurts to watch

spare cobalt
#

havent gotten to open spaces yet in the video

#

but going fast is how I like to roll :D

#

fastest I was at least 13 minutes cant remember for sure but didnt know half of the things about the maps back then

crimson folio
#

Its a game thats quite condusive to speedrunning

spare cobalt
#

just love the movement of this game so much. It's simple but effective

#

dont need to do all that warsow stuff

#

it always hurt my brain

crimson folio
#

i was watching a doom 4 speedrun and its bad

jade root
#

lemme grab a classic

crimson folio
#

50% listening to people talk 50% clipping through walls in the doom4 speedrun

atomic egret
#

you better not do what i think you're about to jab

spare cobalt
#

I know what you mean Rolvil

jade root
#

;)

atomic egret
#

fuck you

spare cobalt
#

running dusk "legit" is just fun

jade root
#

the og WR

atomic egret
#

FUCK OFF

spare cobalt
#

until it becomes a hell of pin precise rocket jumps

atomic egret
#

I HATE YOU

crimson folio
#

that demo speedrun makes me think of a penguinz0 speedrun

atomic egret
jade root
#

gilbo ANGRY

#

nice private profile @mild ginkgo

spare cobalt
#

oh god just watched that 28sec clip

#

when I saw the gas canister being picked up I knew what was going to happen but THEN EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL

opal plover
#

What do you mean went to hell

spare cobalt
#

not in a negative way I just lacked a better word

#

I did not expect that

crimson folio
#

everything went according to plan

spare cobalt
#

yea obv

opal plover
#

How could you not expect that

crimson folio
#

how dare you

opal plover
#

This is dusk we're talking about

spare cobalt
#

I didnt expect falling out

opal plover
#

aka the easiest game to go out of bounds in

spare cobalt
#

lol havent even tried

opal plover
#

Dude you have no idea

spare cobalt
#

not my style really

crimson folio
#

You havent played dusk if you're playing inbounds

spare cobalt
#

I dont like skipping unless its possible within the "confines of the actual level"

#

lol

opal plover
#

David went fucking nuts on the oobability

crimson folio
#

Inbounds is just a newbie trap

spare cobalt
#

but ofc now that you mentioned it I'm obviously going to do it :D

#

I expected it to be more of a closed skybox kind of a thing if yknow what imean

crimson folio
#

break the veil of reality

spare cobalt
#

hey I break dark souls BAD

#

just dont feel like doing it in fps especially this kind

mild ginkgo
#

lol god somebody baited gilby again

gleaming berry
#

I personally think we should have the no quicksave option in DUSKMARE

#

for the truly masochistic

#

and it deletes your game if u die

#

and u have to buy it again

spare cobalt
#

lol

jade root
#

unfollows you from dave on twitter

crimson folio
#

kicks you out of the discord

#

and sends a letter of disapproval to your parents

jade root
#

sounds good to me

molten peak
#

Automatically fails all your school courses.

#

Lands you a dead-end job

spare cobalt
#

lol dont need failing at dusk to do that in this day and age :P

#

especially the dead end job one

crimson folio
#

wtf

#

soap can instakill the aligator boss

#

nice

mild ginkgo
#

it instakills every enemy in the game

#

it does 10 million damage

crimson folio
#

i like it

spare cobalt
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did you find it out by accident?

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I started wondering about all the soap at some point and decided to google it

mild ginkgo
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theres a bar hidden in every level

spare cobalt
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yup

crimson folio
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ive heard about soap killing enemies but i didnt know it could kill everything in one hit

spare cobalt
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love the one in e1m10

crimson folio
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i saw it in the duskmare speedrun

spare cobalt
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thought I found a secret

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but it was the better kind of a secret

crimson folio
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im really bad at finding secrets

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this is my shame

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i would have never gotten the basketball secret on level 2

spare cobalt
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you can find a good lot by just keeping your eyes open and looking around

crimson folio
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i knew that secret room is there because you can see it from the rooftop

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out of bounds

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who's Rachael anyway

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and should i feel bad for not discovering this on my own

spare cobalt
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meh

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do you?

mild ginkgo
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its David's wife

sly path
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Ah.

crimson folio
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Oh ok thats nice

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I feel bad

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my iq is too low to discover secrets on my own

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I mean I discovered a few here and there

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The secret level in episode 2 isnt that hard but I wasnt really paying attention

spare cobalt
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first playthru I found the button that gives you access to it but couldnt be arsed to start looking and just went on

crimson folio
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i thought the concept of those secret levels powering up some demon gun in doom 64 was a really fucking cool idea but i missed all of them

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whoopsie

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gives you an actual reason to do secret levels

spare cobalt
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its a secret level

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what more could you ask

crimson folio
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true

spare cobalt
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but a cool idea that doom 64

crimson folio
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"What the Fuck is this!"

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yeah BFG gets all the love, unmaker is underappreciated

spare cobalt
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I've played quake on n64 more than doom

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thank god you could bind keys

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also n64 controller not the best one for fps :P

crimson folio
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i was wondering if there couldnt be some bonus bullshit weapon for fun in dusk or something

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cheat gun bfg

spare cobalt
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think of it as a cooldown you use every now and then in a tight spot

crimson folio
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I think the wep choice in dusk is similar to that of quake 1, nothing too OP

spare cobalt
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yea pretty much

crimson folio
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still i cant help but want a bfg to mess around with

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blow everything up

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i guess you have soap ๐Ÿ˜›

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what about a soap shotgun

spare cobalt
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mod it

crimson folio
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i only code architectural things ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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though if i were to make a mod, first thing would definitely be the cinematic mod for dusk

opal plover
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Cinematic?

crimson folio
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the one that adds more bloom, motion blur, replaces all the textures with HD textures, replaces the music with Hans Zimmer, puts more big boobed girls in the game

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you know that sort of thing

spare cobalt
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haha that reminds me that I started playing Blood today as a part of my recent nostalgia trip

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didnt remember the cinematics

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dusk should def have as high quality cinematics as it does :P

crimson folio
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yeah those cutscenes look stunning