and reaching that level of quality takes some time
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
graceful wing
sly path
Ep3 launching is going to involve the entire new blood team coming to David's house and pulling some epic pranks.
graceful wing
#pranksquad
vast tangle
I'm sure it will be worth the wait 👍🏼
winged otter
its propably tommorow 
sly path
I dunno, they have to fly out a lot of people to prank David.
steady aurora
I saw it while I was at work earlier and was just excited for a few hours after my break had passed
crimson folio
hype
urban sparrow
Ep3 has the most amount of music in it (that I can recall) in any of the episodes and it's feeling pretty great.
jaunty meteor
Everything looks like it's coming together great!
vast tangle
The wait for Ep 3 is not doing my sanity any favors T.T
steady aurora
Never thought I would hate the word 
as much as I honestly do. Although at least it is keeping a promise in it coming some time in the future
crimson folio
What does ep 3 test mean? Is it finishing and testing by NB?
jade root
means Dave is critting it
after crits, David does a second pass, then dave crits again
once its in a really tight spot its passed off to QA
jaunty meteor
"too much water"
jade root
QA finds bugs, David fixes, last crits are made by Dave then ep3 is done
and you finally stop whining about ep3 not being done
jaunty meteor
Then they throw the master disc in the trash compactor and make david do it all over again, just for laughs
jade root
by the way, episode 3 being done doesn't mean dusk is done
there's still other stuff we have to work on
lotta cool shit
crimson folio
Got it. Thanks for explanation. Of course I ll do. That s story about 3rd ep is long enough
But I m glad to know that 3rd release matches to the plan (it was said that 3rd would be ready in July)
crisp lion
E P I S O D E J E N N Y D E A T H W H E N?
jade root
we don't know
we want the game to be done as soon as possible but we aren't going to cut corners
crimson folio
Cut corners?
vale oar
even me just got bothered with ep3 questions xD
crimson folio
It was approximate period
jade root
prolly because dusk wiki master keeps pulling dates out his ass
crisp lion
turn a blind eye, and it will be up dave's sleeves like a drug dealer in a street corner
crimson folio
Mentioned by community and you
vale oar
@crisp lion Dusk codex when
crisp lion
It's Dave's wet dream
crimson folio
@vale oar I hope never
crisp lion
not a reality tho
crimson folio
Nevermind. If you noticed I don't torture you every week.
crisp lion
thank you Jab! very cool!
crimson folio
But item about Nintendo killed me
crimson folio
I think you right
gleaming berry
Me and David were going thru E3M5 yesterday and we got to this one part
with a lot of spiral stairs
and the buttrock is just blaring
and Im like
man this is a lot of buttrock
urban sparrow
lel
vale oar
hmmm I think i DO remember that spiral stairs screenshot... 🤔
crisp lion
Ah yes, "The Scream"
well The Horror, but the scream is a reference to that one painting, which the Horror looks similar to
vale oar
nah i mean another spiral stair screen xD
crisp lion
The build up should be to think it makes you shid and came in ur paints, but it's "screams" are just sound files ripped from Screamo songs
" I feel like that sort of interactivity is a deep rabbit hole I could fall down for sure"
@thorn trout just make your next game (which I think you stated will be inspired by F.E.A.R) inspired by Max Payne as well, and you can fit as much interactivity as you want 😎
thorn trout
probably gonna end up making an immersive sim some day, maybe next, so... yeah :3
jade root
arx remaster
plz and thank
but with reciever gunplay
and janky dagger fall melee combat
thorn trout
gunplay
jade root
sorry i didnt know working on dusk made you hate guns too
graceful wing
thorn trout
Arx world
gunplay
jade root
you could easily do that
thorn trout
TWAS JOKE YA SILLY GOOSE
jade root
steampunk dwarven ruins
jaunty meteor
I guess if there's anyone I could trust to make a game that matches what I like about Deus Ex/System Shock 2, it'd be the guy who made a game that matches the things I liked about Doom/Blood
crisp lion
Would be a shame, it was a good game.
thorn trout
@jaunty meteor thanks :)
winged otter
new Hexen? 😱
thorn trout
@gleaming berry yeah I have... ideas cooking
sly path
I'd love to see some good first person melee stuff come from you guys.
But what if, there was an instagib game about penguins 🤔
mild ginkgo
opal plover
Club Penguin 3 Arena
jolly mirage
Get it right its "Club Penguin 3 Battle Royal"
crisp lion
*Club Penguin 3: Battle Royale: Ultimate Deluxe Enhanced Mountain Dewrito edition
deft salmon
sly path
Radical.
opal plover
Real shit
vast tangle
That looks... interesting
opal plover
Why?
vast tangle
Interesting as in mildly lovecraftian
opal plover
Also I deduced in which level this track will play https://twitter.com/AndrewHulshult/status/986080493375508481
I bet this is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of lovecraftian stuff in E3
vale oar
eeeh e3m5...?
prisma halo
I'm not going to tell anyone if they've gotten it right or not, btw lol
but I'm very interested in what you guess
vale oar
Tortures Zombie: "TELL ME WHAT LEVEL IS THAT?!"
jade root
plz no bdsmrp
vale oar
🤔
jaunty meteor
@opal plover That sounds vaguely like Duke3D E1L1
steady aurora
Bdsmrp... Only the best in the NewBlood discord
gleaming berry
ok @opal plover ur freaking me out lol
also where did that pic of the stairs come from?
vast tangle
I think it was posted on twitter a while ago
vale oar
Dave can't even remember that he has posted that HIMSELF lmao
thorn trout
Naw I think I was the one who posted it for a past screenshot saturday
vale oar
Mr. Spoiler :3
pearl ibex
Must finish map... 😱
mild ginkgo
@pearl ibex sometime this week I'll get that back to you
opal plover
I think the track plays in the blue level @prisma halo
As in what I think might be E3M6
gleaming berry
opal plover
Neat
fair mirage
oh yeah i tried dusk on wine a while ago
aaaaaaaages ago
had to do a fair bit of tweaking to make it run well
duskworld ran at 40fps lol
dense creek
I think Dusk is the best way I ever spent 20 bucks
Haven't had as much fun in a long while
Got to thank ggmanlives and Dave!
And other devs! You're all doing great!
dense creek
Well I'll see if I can grab 20 more some time and try it out!
rare gulch
👌
dense creek
It's more medievalish/fantasy if I'm right?
dense creek
Gotcha!
rare gulch
Kinda like heretic
dense creek
Righto
gray remnant
my dad
crimson folio
dusk is a good game
opal plover
No
Bad graphics
Plus level design not like arcande dimonsions
A small team can't recapture doom
crimson folio
not enough evil dead references
opal plover
Not enough level designs
crimson folio
why cant you play as a female
no glory kills
how am i supposed to know the evil monster is about to die if it's not flashing with bright orange colours
wats the point of playing the multiplayer if u cant unlock things
too much metal too
i dont like screamo
opal plover
Doom 4 good though
crimson folio
maybe
but heres something nobody can debate
where is the regenerating health and cover system
hmm
maybe that should be part of the next patch
there is nothing more thrilling than waiting behind a wall for a couple of seconds
no escort or trailing missions either
i need a 10 minute intro where some guy talks to me a lot and then i have to trail a wizard guy to see whats going on
but its early access so i'll give it a pass\
it can still happen
yea
crimson folio
yea
crimson folio
anyone got any bad metal album recommendations
opal plover
No you can't make old school FPSs nowadays unless it looks like arcane dimensions
Plus it's practically a quake mod so it should be free
Advanced architecture=level design
crimson folio
This is the discord for DUSK theNew Open World Survival Game, right?
crimson folio
I played this game first time in hard mode no saves between levels and it was the scariest thing ever
crimson folio
Am I crazy for thinking that there sort of shouldn't be saving between levels? like it makes it too easy and feels like cheatin?
shut mesa
yes
vague egret
New mode idea
Dusk Iron Man mode. No saving and death results in Dusk being uninstalled and dropped from your library
shut mesa
Mhm
crimson folio
I like it
I might be the only one but I seriously think Cero Miedo no saves between levels is really great
for a first time playthrough
shut mesa
E-peen opinion
crimson folio
no no ive been playing all the old school shooters like this, it just makes it more fun
really forces you to learn the levels
and theres so much tension
and it works well in duskj
crimson folio
yeah
and it makes the horror elements of the game work really well
if you're playing a level for the first time and you've been playing a while and a wendigo comes out of nowhere its terrifying
but if youve been saving heaps you can just load earlier so its not a big deal
theres only one level where i felt i really had to save
which deflates the e-peen
the escher labs level with the floating platforms, i was like "ok im going to have to save here, theres no way i can do this without falling"
also yeah i tend to avoid the bonus extra hard modes
I suppose they're doable with a lot of save scumming
for a not very good shooting person like me
shut mesa
i'm still gonna do a doom16 ultra nightmare run at some point
i'm still recovering from my nightmare run
crimson folio
i recently played brutal doom 64 like this same way
and it was pretty spooky let me tell you
shut mesa
no
crimson folio
the Health on Earth Starter Pack?
crimson folio
Yeah those felt bad
I couldnt get past the first level
Because I didnt think it felt doomy at all
shut mesa
i dont really consider brutal doom a doom game anyway
lol
but this is gettin off topic as shit
shut mesa
i'm gonna enjoy some vodka and play rising storm 2
crimson folio
hf
no saves crew represent
its time to kick ass and make saves, and im all out of saves
tired whale
it's a crystal that makes you mad
fickle surge
have i been played
this is clearly not the place
neither this
this is making my ballsack itch
mild ginkgo
You just throw it near some enemies and you'll find out
crimson folio
I too thought it was supposed to go there
fickle surge
oh
crimson folio
im glad i am not the only one
shut mesa
fuckin ideal
better have 2/3x pixelation and limited palette
otherwise im not talking to u
placid pebble
it on 2x pixel
and limited pallete
only thing different it's not on quask color palete
i dont like it
it a cool idea to save presets of colors?
shut mesa
2x pixelation and cold colors is love
jaunty meteor
Palettes are optional and I typically don't ever use them except maybe to increase contrast/saturation a little
Giving favoritism to any specific color usually results in at least a couple maps looking bad, from my experience
vast tangle
Man, it's been years since I last saw an old school monitor xD
vale oar
Sure?
molten peak
I was helping a dude lift a flatscreen the other day. He was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't that heavy, since it's a big screen. I told him to be thankful analog TV's are hardly a thing anymore
Christ I remember trying to lift those fucking things
Atlas needs his cable TV
crimson folio
I don't think so Dave. My computer desk isn't big enuf
gleaming berry
womp
drowsy glacier
more like this pls
I'd pay top dollar to support development with a mat like that
I pulled the background image right from David's twitter https://twitter.com/DUSKdev/status/1009316633993625601
And the enemy model is from a wiki or something
I can give you guys the PSD file if you want it
jaunty meteor
I just wanted to chime in and say that even if I wanted to buy a mousepad there's no way in hell I'd have the room for a huge one like that
And I'd assume that there are plenty of people in the same situation I'm in, in that regard
jade root
what kinda normal person has that much desk space
not everyone has a bajillion dollar spacious apartment dave
crimson folio
how about posters?
mild ginkgo
:))
prisma halo
ep4, duh
jaunty meteor
This is as far fetched as can be and I'm not expecting it, but it'd be cool if there was a "hardmode" version of every level with different enemy/weapon placement
Sort of like taking Super Meat Boy's dark world concept and putting it into an FPS
Like having Wendigos in EP1, or having weakened experiments be normal enemies
mild ginkgo
Fun fact the old e2ms, which is the E3 demo level, at one point featured experiments as a normal enemy
prisma halo
remember the non-functioning non-solid horse
slate edge
Thy memes consumed
crimson folio
Ep3 should take all the time it needs
crimson folio
A lot more patience in the world would make the world a better place
mild ginkgo
Our boss doesn't let us rush
As a policy
Ask @gleaming berry how he feels about rushing and crunch
gleaming berry
We don't
Every time someone asks us where Ep 3 is we get stoned and play Oblivion instead
mild ginkgo
Hell yeah
crimson folio
That sounds like a great idea
mild ginkgo
Excuse me I have to go get stoned and play oblivion
crimson folio
Now I want to try that
mild ginkgo
Boss's orders
crimson folio
YOU TREACHOROUS LITTLE FILCHER, HOW DARE YOU STEAL FROM ME
prisma halo
Every time we get stoned and play Oblivion someone asks us where Ep 3 is
mild ginkgo
Pretty much
crimson folio
I like going into peoples houses and repeatedly moving their objects
winged otter
"Every time someone asks us where Ep 3 is we get stoned and play Oblivion instead" someone should pin this
red gale
everytime someone asks for the comic to get done i will huddle in a corner and work on my dark magical girl OCs
no one wants that. least of all me
dont make me hurt me
balmy sluice
sly path
How's refilling those Parallel pens going?
dense creek
Wendigo are horrifying
glacial charm
love the card art. though i kind of wish they were slightly reworked with new details to fit into that 1920x1080 frame instead of it just being big black borders.
but that's just me complaining about this.
wanton zenith
I hope they take time with the engine change
Most of the indie game that was made in unity run like shit and badly optimized
ahem strafe ahem
atomic egret
Engine change?
opaque spindle
Its moving to Unity 2018 so it isn't that big of a change really
atomic egret
It's still unity
prisma halo
I hope they take time with the engine change
No time to take, lmao
I handled the bulk of the Unity 2018 port myself in like an hour
it's basically done
There's just one Unity 2018 bug we're waiting on to be fixed, but we found a temp workaround
But despite it not taking long, it was actually a pretty painful process at first
because I'm not counting the hours of failed attempts at figuring out how to move things over without it breaking horribly before that :v
(Dusk remained on Unity 5.x for a very long time, and we skipped right over Unity 2017 straight to 2018, and well, some of the third party stuff in use didn't like that)
tame sandal
so whats gonna the first goal post release (when that day finally comes) ? is it gonna me mapping and modding? or like different content?
actually modded tournaments might be funny
thats IF duskworld allows mods, which it doesnt need to since its multiplayer
jade root
sdk will be first post release (likely)
the sdk is what makes co-op possible
so dont expect co-op first
tame sandal
yeah thts true co-op would prolly be much later
prisma halo
Ideally Duskworld will be merged into the main SDK version of the game, making multiplayer mods possible
tame sandal
and just to clarify...we're gonna get the story behind dusky-boi at the end of ep3 right....?
prisma halo
😶
graceful wing
^
tame sandal
@prisma halo thats actually really cool, didnt think of that but it would make switching game "modes" faster and multiplayer mods would be great
prisma halo
Yup, I'm just not sure what to do about the menus
because if the two are merged
what happens to Duskworld's unique menu background?
tame sandal
tournaments but only with the riveter and the riverter does 1 damage but 100 self damage
prisma halo
We'll think of something
tame sandal
@prisma halo maybe we get to choose to use it or not, like as a custom feature
like, selecting a background or smth
prisma halo
Could probably have a third "blank" menu, and when you start up the game you're presented with an option
Singleplayer or Multiplayer
tame sandal
ye
prisma halo
and if you back out of that area, you're brought back to the blank one to choose again
dunno, we'll see
prisma halo
MODE SELECT
david jank
scott jank
tame sandal
btw is the lore behind dusky-B0I planned out or is it still WIP?
prisma halo
again, 😶
jade root
we arent saying
tame sandal
.<
jade root
asking wont get you anywhere bud, i can say that
prisma halo
lmao
tame sandal
everythings worth a try, except if it requires effort, in that case, why would you do it?
graceful wing
our lips are sealed
graceful wing
and more importantly we've signed our souls away to dave
breaking our contracts wouldn't really be a good idea
tame sandal
i wasnt asking for any lore or spoilers tbf i was just asking if yall had it planned or if its still unknown what the story is
prisma halo
Answering that question itself could still be classed as a spoiler in the context of Dusk
tame sandal
i guess
prisma halo
Either way it's not our place to say
opal plover
Anyway E3 is pretty late in developpement, I think all the lore/post ending stuff is final at this point.
Anyways unity 2018 update soon
Actually any estimates as to when?
prisma halo
Well the actual porting work to 2018 is done, like I said
It just needs to be tested
opal plover
And the updated ui is done too right?
prisma halo
I don't know, I haven't kept up with that
wanton zenith
so the dev team is still 3 people right?
prisma halo
The game itself has always been, and always will be, all done by David
But I'm doing the SDK, Scott's doing multiplayer stuff, and a few others help out here and there (with UI design and MP maps)
And then you have Andrew doing the music
and then Dave lets David know if anything sucks so it can be made to not suck
wanton zenith
wow, one people doing all of this is an amzing feat
so basically he makes everything in SP from the modelling to map design.
and you're just testing the platfrom and optimaize stuff
prisma halo
Yeah
The singleplayer is 100% David aside from music
(but he was originally going to do all of the music as well)
wanton zenith
oh damn it's like the Dust: The Elysian Tale dev
one dude done it all and you only need to stuff the right music in
prisma halo
Amid Evil is in a similar situation, two people making the game itself, then Andrew doing music
wanton zenith
he's probably have some experience before isn't it?
prisma halo
David has worked on a number of titles before Dusk, but this is his first real FPS project
Leon and Simmo have worked on various projects in the past as well
wanton zenith
I hope he'll done more project like this in the future
this genre is niche but you'll have a cosistant support fanbase if the game is done right
atomic egret
Leon and simmo have made fps games before though
David just made walking Sims and a weird party game thing
atomic egret
Oh yeah, the byte sized shooter
I forgot
Pretty sure David's planning on doing an immersive Sim after dusk
Like deus ex kinda thing
fast wigeon
ye he said the other day hes planning it
seems like a really difficult thing to do well alone
fast wigeon
ye
atomic egret
And with voice acting
fast wigeon
i hope it ends up being more of a deus ex style immersive sim than something like system shock
atomic egret
Well being David I'd say it's likely to be some weird but cool mish mash of a bunch of em
No doubt there'll be some stalker in there
fast wigeon
yee
atomic egret
Whatever it is I'm sure it'll work out good
untold elm
I had a dream last night that I made Quake Fortress with in Dusk.
Could this be my destiny?
Or just a cruel fantasy.
untold elm
Guess I need to learn how to be a better programmer if I wanna make it happen.
frozen heart
i had a dream once
where i found this secret group that played quake 1 dm
and once you played you basically transcended existence
it was pretty dope
frozen heart
damn right it was
untold elm
Wish I had dreams more consistently man.
acoustic oriole
winged otter
agreed,that main menu leatherneck with sicles is very meh for menu background
graceful wing
it may or may not be final
i think david was toying around with the idea of a different main menu depending on your campaign progress at one point
winged otter
game hud is final?
jade root
Yep
graceful wing
things like this are low priority though. we'll do em if there's enough time left for them
nope
jade root
Owo
graceful wing
i mean the hud info and stuff is but changes are still gonna happen
jade root
HUD already got an update avaiiiiiiiin
Yeah the HUDs are fine
There's plenty to select if you hit + or =
But whole menu rework
winged otter
just throw naked women on title screen,sales are massively increasing!
graceful wing
we'll just put unity chan in there
warped saffron
I want all the HUD elements to use the Spiderman/Playstation 3 font...
crimson folio
but, y tho?
winged otter
hes just kidding,we put comic sans font
glacial charm
Just use a font that’s Impossible to read
radiant venture
wingdings
vale oar
wendingos
winged otter
"Just use a font that’s Impossible to read" like in Amid Evil?
placid pebble
with the unity2018 update, we can still use direcx 9?
placid pebble
my craptop can handle the opengl
vague egret
RIP
mild ginkgo
yes you can use dx9
placid pebble
it not a super duper important thing, but can make that run dusk on 30 fps on that old latp
opal plover
Hey you remember that old main menu background with the campfire?
Maybe have that before you start the game and switch it to the current one when you've actually begun playing
Like the campain I mean
mild ginkgo
Did you ever get to see that one??
opal plover
Yeah I think
opal plover
At a certain time in this server
mild ginkgo
Oh well I meant on your end :p
Anyways, it's still there in the main menu, just off to the side
opal plover
I know
mild ginkgo
Super easy mod to bring it back
opal plover
serene needle
damb
opal plover
bamd
serene needle
basically
opal plover
I don't understand.
mild ginkgo
Lol do you have a giant folder of dusk screens?
opal plover
I do
mild ginkgo
Amazing
serene needle
link?
opal plover
Too lazy
opal plover
The dev of the SDK posted it a long time ago
serene needle
oh, I thought people had the sdk for a sec
mild ginkgo
Well,you could achieve that as is
But it'd be more work than most people are willing to put in
opal plover
You mean some sort of speedrun level precision glitch that lets you move around in the main menu?
serene needle
so uhh, I don't know if it's just me but I can't get the pacifist E2M10
opal plover
It's the explosions
opal plover
Yes
opal plover
Maybe
opaque spindle
damn are people still on about a codex
crisp lion
Well it doesn't help @gleaming berry was advertising it a bunch of times, despite David being uncertain about a Codex.
opaque spindle
Yeah more than likely not getting a codex
Its really not needed
especially for Dusk's style of storytelling
crimson folio
who reads these days
crisp lion
The girl reading these posts
opaque spindle
Dave will sometimes just say things to say them tbh 🤷
not confirming or denying anything
I don't even really know
but I really doubt there will be a codex
opal plover
You know what would be a nice alternative to the codex, some sort of testament or whatever written in the readme that forshadows the events of the game
crimson folio
readme.txt
opaque spindle
Most you'll probably get is from enviromental storytelling and maybe the comic
but even that operates in its own canon pretty much
crimson folio
Phoobie needs to calm down
crisp lion
Being hopeful about a index of Dusk lore (barring the Dusk Wiki, and the vague background talked about in the past) is like saying DUSK Ep3 is coming every month, then pushing it later when it's clear it won't.
opaque spindle
A codex would kind of go against how the game tries to convey its story tbh
opal plover
Honestly the ony reason I was interested in the codex in the first place is because I just like the ancient demon lore scrolls dynamic, not what's written in them mind you just the esthetic
opaque spindle
A codex would go against the mysterious enviromental storytelling that allows you to piece things together yourself and come up with your own interpitations
opal plover
Also that sweet sweet exocet font mmmh
crisp lion
There's a reason why films like The Shining are classics.
opaque spindle
crucify me if you want but the storytelling is one of my favorite parts of dusk
its honestly one of the best executed parts of the whole game
crisp lion
it's because the meaning, and greater details are different from person to person
though DUSK is just a vidya, it's only meaning is to kill demons, possessed peeps, and cultists
opal plover
Like I mean did anyone consider a codex that would end up raising more questions than it answers?
sly path
DUSK doesn't need a codex, AE needs a codex because Leon wants it to have a codex I guess.
Unless he doesn't want it to have a codex.
opaque spindle
Then there would be no point in the codex maniaccc
just have that shit in the enviorment
crisp lion
No, the whole idea of a codex is to shoot whatever you call it at people
opaque spindle
or something
opal plover
I mean AE has a strong mythological theme, I personally think it should explain stuff more.
crisp lion
AE is entwined with a mythology about a superwarrior that btfo's aliens or something
sly path
I don't think a codex suits the game's tone and David's fairly subtle story telling.
opaque spindle
^
sly path
AE is about a Heretic who gets pardoned by the gods to kill some things.
opaque spindle
yeah
Dusk you're just some random treasure hunter who stumbled on something bad
you don't know whats going on all you know is shoot
well idk about the treasure hunter part anymore
Having a codex would kind of go against the basic premise actually
crisp lion
DUSK: you play as a treasure hunter that went there to search for treasure, you were sneaking, and got captured by the cult. then you release yourself, and destroy them.
all you need to know
crimson folio
I didnt know you were a treasure hunter lol
crisp lion
everything else is pointless, barring the vague sandy petersen story
crimson folio
I guess you get morale from treasure
sly path
Also you have two giant stab wounds in your back.
opaque spindle
Its about a slow descent into madness considering how each episode is ramping up how insane shit gets
sly path
Don't forget that.
crisp lion
from being stuck on hooks
opaque spindle
Yeah I think David is really great at subtle storytelling
sly path
I mean, his main forray into the industry was with games like Fingerbones, and Sumo Revise.
opaque spindle
I've never played those
or even really heard of them lol
should probably check them out
opal plover
You can check out Markiplier's playthrough of fingerbones
sly path
Can't wait for Sumo Revise 2
opal plover
Actually is Sumo Revise like a horror game or something?
opal plover
And it has subtle storytelling?
crimson folio
Sumos are truly the most horrifying subject matter of all
sly path
Well, it's about Sumos Revising.
gleaming berry
Yeah we probably won't have a codex at least not at launch. Don't really think we need one and not sure it fits with the game
FYI I'm allowed to have ideas and talk about them doesn't mean they're always going to end up being a thing
You'll just guess it all anyway 😎
thorn trout
The story and related things especially should be considered in constant flux until they're actually in the game, since that's something that's heavily collaborative between Dave and I, and something we both have very different approaches to
Read: stuff either of us have said in the past is not necessarily canon now 🙂
Or it might be
You don't know until you see it in the game!
warped saffron
DUSK feels mysterious and I like it that way.
jade root
Read: david doesnt know what he doing but somehow its working
warped saffron
serene sandal
5 hours of cutscenes when @thorn trout
crimson folio
Will there be lore implemented in Dusk or will the lore be mostly outside the game itself like in the wiki or in comics or what not?
thorn trout
@jade root literally the entirety of dusk dev
@crimson folio not sure yet what the ratio will be 🙂
fair mirage
or he does and isn't telling
gleaming berry
We'll probably do a story pass and make sure all the bits and pieces of storytelling are cohesive but I doubt we'll put any actual LORE in the game. It's been fun watching everyone interpret it as is
And you've been like 90% spot on with it anyway so we're not gonna change the way we do it now
The comic will probably be canon-ish
I think the idea is you play the game, then read that
Then who knows
"Who you were before is inconsequential. Who you are NOW is inconceivable"
crimson folio
a dusk encyclopedia hiding in the menus would be dope
if you're including pictures duskdude has to be a pair of floating sickles btw
gleaming berry
He's a capsule
crimson folio
with sickles
fair mirage
and shooty bangs
graceful wing
That looks correct to me
crimson folio
man duskdude in the comics is such a unit im suprised theres no fear mecanic
bunnyhopping at 500mph while looking so swole
why arent the cultists afraid?
fair mirage
they're just as swole
the town of DUSK happens to be a town of bodybuilders before they were turned to cultists
woeful sonnet
I know that feeling story wise, I finished the entirety of chapter 1 for my game only to have the games entire plot practically change on a whim.
red gale
@jaunty meteor you motherfucker almost spit out my drink
crimson folio
Hello everyone.
placid pebble
hwya dude
placid pebble
hope u get soon on the dusk
placid pebble
but we laugth on meems
graceful wing
oh i'm not saying that the memes aren't worth it
placid pebble
crimson folio
@gleaming berry "We'll probably do a story pass and make sure all the bits and pieces of storytelling are cohesive but I doubt we'll put any actual LORE in the game. It's been fun watching everyone interpret it as is" I'll bet 99.9% of game developers do the exact same thing. Fans go to great lengths to satisfy their booming imaginations. I know I have.
gleaming berry
I mean some devs like to lay it all out there
So it's not open to much interpretation
Destiny for example I think has like a whole lot of lore
I could gaf less
slate edge
True
fair mirage
welp, official headcanon is the cultists are super buff under those robes
slate edge
Swole wizards
crimson folio
wazards
pearl ibex
swizolerds
gleaming berry
swizards
woeful sonnet
Swolzards
crimson folio
I was playing Dusk in front of a friend, and encountered the Mama boss for the first time. You hear her moans from inside the box. My friend says "sounds like Morty"
placid pebble
i see the moders work anytime soon with that
i was playing with my sister and she just slap my hand
crimson folio
how can she slap
placid pebble
with her hand
slapeed my hand where it's my mouse because she trinks that was p0rn
opal plover
HOW CAN SHE SLAP
placid pebble
omg i trink i missing a usa meme
spare cobalt
too dank 4 u
crimson folio
Yes... usa.
grim lantern
Hang on, we have an official comic?
grim lantern
oooo
crimson folio
duude why tf the getting hit sound fuggin steve from minecraft 😂 👌 🔫
ouo
🇴 🇺 🇴
Yes
crimson folio
I liked the stalker influence
jade root
Whenever you buy dusk, this is who is getting your money. Are you really okay with this? Think before you buy.
sly path
Shave David's beard an this is what you find underneath.
No wonder why he hasn't shaved in years.
graceful wing
David sansmanski
atomic egret
David szysanski
prisma ivy
The truth always comes out eventually
crimson folio
torpid ledge
i heard cause ep3 is taking so long they are just gonna make it dusk 3
crimson folio
https://www.moddb.com/games/dusk-fps-retro/mods
Wha? Already?
mild ginkgo
pretty sure its just renamed level files
crimson folio
Yassssssss
mild ginkgo
yeah back in the day, with episode one, we actually shipped e2m9 with it
and you could access it in the same way
ofc, there are much better ways to do this
but hey, as long as the kids are having fun
crimson folio
ok
crimson folio
😃
crimson folio
👌🏻
crimson folio
Which one?
mild ginkgo
the e3 demo endless (what you mistakenly called e1m2 alpha)
tried the other one too
neither work
might just be my system though
my dusk install is not standard
tons of additional shit added
mild ginkgo
no i dont lol
also i just reinstalled the game
same result unfortunately
heh
[Position out of bounds!]```yeah i think your format might be off
mild ginkgo
certainly! but if nobody else will be able to run it, thats a shame
although both levels are included in the base game folder anyways
under goodies
OH
its because your're using an old pirated version of the game
fair enough
thats why
or rather
a depricated version
crimson folio
XD👌🏻
jaunty meteor
"my computer my rules" doesn't really apply when making a public mod...
There's no point to publicizing a mod if it doesn't work on anyone's computer but yours, obvs
mild ginkgo
its not about his pc
just the version he is using is really old
so its not compatible with the current release
crimson folio
ok i will buy the full version
mild ginkgo
hey man its up to you
you do you
im not your dad
:P
anyways, the mod isnt necessary in the release version because it contains old builds of the game where you can play those levels!
but thats cool for people still on the old versions
so i say keep it up
mild ginkgo
lmao
graceful wing
if only
also yeh as 500 said we can't provide support for pirated copies of the game. sorry mate 😦
graceful wing
nah they've been there for a while
crimson folio
i love how everything is so similar yet so different
i've never seen this 'e3' build before
i've checked the goodies folder before too
gleaming berry
YARRRRRRRRRRRR
crimson folio
also some new wallpapers??
crimson folio
🤔
vale oar
Are u all right Dave?
gleaming berry
yar
winged otter
wrong day Dave,talk like a pirate day is 19 september
gleaming berry
yar
vocal chasm
hola
placid pebble
hola!
vocal chasm
I'm bad at this game.
I piled up boxes to get to the little hidden area in level 2, the little factory looking area.
Coulda just used the jump pad....
I did it my waaaaaaaaaay
winged otter
doesnt matter wich map it is,both ways for completing map are good
jaunty meteor
Wow, I'd never played the E3 2016 demo before
This is really cool!
Interesting how there's some sort of creepy undead enemy that's a mixture between mages and black philips
still peak
are enemy projectiles faster in higher difficulties?
jaunty meteor
Yup
still peak
oki doki, thought so, seemed like it 😛
placid pebble
gonna play that e3 demo, only played pre pre pre beta alpha
still peak
yeah that was instantly noticable
placid pebble
cero miedo best dificultad
still peak
yeah i started a run did a few levels on it
vast tangle
Cero Miedo + Intruder mode = best way to play Dusk IMO
placid pebble
ohh
still peak
frantiiiic
placid pebble
it's kinda like doom but on doom u restart with zero weapons where u die
so plutonia it's intruder mode
vast tangle
Nope, there's a distinct lack of chaingunners
jaunty meteor
@mild ginkgo No, their projectiles move way faster than mages, even on CM
They have the same projectiles as black philips, it looks like
vocal chasm
I might have.... my bad if I did
placid pebble
That kinda hl2 tho
jade root
on the first of the month
vocal chasm
sorry
vocal chasm
xD
placid pebble
That's happens to all on this discord
Idk how they don't go crazy with all dusk cancelations
vocal chasm
Next step...
We cancel Dave Himself
vocal chasm
And DaveWorld, the DLC
mild ginkgo
no like, they are actually mages
dim valve
wow, the hammer is so long-ranged, you can actually hit the leatherneck without him ever trying to attack you
good job david
Gotta say @thorn trout you've come a long way from that 2016 demo. The level reminded me of one of those Q!Zone levels with the random hallways and shit and Endless had no satisfying loop. I would still love to see these enemies thrown into an eighth-assed episode 4 expansion though. Maybe even as just a fun little thing thrown in with the sdk
thorn trout
yeah that was like the first level I ever made and it's rough. Endless mode was thrown in at the last minute kind of and it literally just spawns enemies on a timer. And it kinda sucks :P
dim valve
See the UNKNOWN forces of the cult never before seen in EPISODE FOUR
and then episode four is just the 2016 level, the pre-pre-pre-alpha level, and that one misty swamp level with "new music" that's just 3 hulshult tracks played in reverse
the boss is big john, who has new lines that are just old lines spliced together
like that one steamed hams deus ex intro video
winged otter
didnt know about 2016 demo, played now
that was interesting, i very liked that shotgun, i assume it was reworked to hunting rifle
that level was not really lame, pacing was really good
jade root
put spaces after your commas aaaaaa
dim valve
The level wasn't bad,but it was really simplistic.
also,i noticed the shotgun had like double the spread
red gale
I'd go to bat for returning the MeatHags from that Alpha
would fit episode 3 style levels. just find a new combat role for them. scale them up and make it a more bruiser style enemie
dim valve
like it's funny how different babby dusk plays from the final-ish product. it's so slow by comparison
red gale
also i'd like the excuse to draw one
dim valve
@red gale how much control does New Blood give you over the comic anyway? Is it a Doom novel thing where you're free to just make up anything? https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1005839473983225856
red gale
@red gale free enough to interpret some stuff, but still following the timeline of the game
oops
@dim valve
crimson folio
Doom novels.. I read all 4 of them... The last ends really goofy
placid pebble
it's funny that the E3 Alpha the rifle reload its like a american salute
putting the rifle on the shoulder and lifting up
i like it more that final, in my opinion
vague egret
serene sandal
vague egret
@serene sandal you gonna be at QC?
serene sandal
@vague egret Definitely! All 3 days! Already registered! 🤘
vague egret
sick
serene sandal
Yeah it has been hard to contain my excitement! DOOM Eternal footage and DUSK: Episode 3 playable? Yes please!
I had a BLAST at the New Blood booth last year so I've been really looking forward to seeing all you wonderful dudes again!
vague egret
serene sandal
craggy spire
Am I the only one looking forward to Dusk episode 3 more than Doom Eternal?
serene sandal
Not at all @craggy spire!
A lot of my hype for DOOM Eternal at the moment is just for Mick Gordons new soundtrack!
thorn trout
@serene sandal hope to say hi again this year :)
craggy spire
Oh hells yes for that, the music was wonderfully done
serene sandal
As soon as the Exhibit Hall opens I am going straight to the New Blood booth @thorn trout !
thorn trout
👍
opal plover
David you've been found out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRvB8_AxM2g
fossil slate
Looking forward to meeting all the New Blood people at QuakeCon!
mild ginkgo
hell yeah
opal plover
I wish I could be there
thorn trout
@opal plover talk to @zealous bridge he's the one that did the magma effect :)
serene sandal
Finally I have been wanting to know how to achieve that same effect!
red gale
okay guys, this is your chance to help the comic!
zealous bridge
Yeah I tweaked it off that
red gale
type the sound that the wendigos make
serene sandal
HNNHNN
I don't know lol
That is the best I can figure to type out the high pitch sound they make when they become visible @red gale
opal plover
Draw a fiddle in the speech bubble
thorn trout
oh lord
serene sandal
LOL @opal plover
red gale
believe me im tempted just to draw the sfx like that
thorn trout
screech maybe?
red gale
well the heavy breathing part
thorn trout
drawing a super sketchy looking violin could be funny
red gale
HUFF HUFF is close but not ragged enough
serene sandal
humph humph
serene sandal
herf
red gale
these are the thoughts i have to have on a daily basis
opal plover
hnff nhff
serene sandal
red gale
i think im gonna go with the huff. the lettering will be drawn ragged. closest im gonna get
serene sandal
I know you'll do great @red gale
I can't wait to have the comic in my hands and read it in my dimly lit room with @urban sparrow ambience playing to set the mood!
red gale
it's getting there. SOONtm
got some tough pages ahead of me. this project has made turn to a lot of energy drinks.
serene sandal
Oh I bet @red gale . I know it isn't easy. Just know we DUSK fans are super grateful for the work you have done so far! I know I am at least! Your art style fits DUSK perfectly!
Will you be at QuakeCon by chance?
red gale
nah. i'm hoping to be at PAX this year funds allowing
serene sandal
Ah well I hope you manage to get to PAX!
placid pebble
hope the best for u comics dude!
serene needle
I can't make it to Quakecon, will the mousepads be on the store?
vague egret
if we have any left over, maybe. AFAIK we only have a limited supply of them
serene needle
fuk
spiral galleon
i hope theyll be in the store
red gale
considering the sensitivity those pros play on im amazed they need a mouse pad bigger then a napkin
mild ginkgo
We will be listing any unsold ones on the store
sly path
Radical.
opal plover
I still wonder what Ep2 level this would have been.
mild ginkgo
its still around in the source
opal plover
You mean in the game?
opal plover
I see
E2M2 should have that skybox
Just for the sake of differenciating it from E2M1
mild ginkgo
isnt e2m2 entirely indoors?
opal plover
It's got the hallowed health secret
crisp lion
Yum
opal plover
Ludicrous
mild ginkgo
???
crisp lion
DUSK wikia stuff
opal plover
Is there much more to it?
crisp lion
Was E2 meant to be more city then industrial originally?
opal plover
As far back as I know Ep2 was industrial
Those are just storage/office buildings I think
opal plover
Has the same stalker feel
mild ginkgo
e2m2 however is the one you would want to play
opal plover
You mean the one with the inferior buildup?
mild ginkgo
no
the original e2m2
its a big level, and a lot of its ideas are used elsewhere in the episode
atomic egret
where did all these pictures of young david come from
opal plover
His wife
mild ginkgo
but this for sure will make a great level to give to you guys later
its a very neat level
atomic egret
is he actually young in them or did he just shave
crisp lion
young
opal plover
I can only imagine a lot of E2M3 is from original E2M2
Also original E2M1, was it like big and open or more claustrophobic?
mild ginkgo
more claustrophobic
that screenshot is the only open part
also na e2m3 is its own thing
crisp lion
overviews when?