(because Ep.3 is cancelled)
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
dim valve
(not really)
@crimson folio is this what you were looking for? https://youtu.be/WHaJ4rti6LY?t=1h8m27s
crimson folio
Thanks @dim valve but the princess is in another castle
still I'm gonna use that anyway, I'm looking for that interview for a friend who wants to do some work like Dave does
like a producer/CM and stuff, but has to be indie oriented cause in Argentina gaming industry is very nichey
I talked to him about my experience with DUSK and the New Blood Discord server, the community, the way devs talk to the community and that kind of stuff
he was really interested
IN COPYING EVERYTHING
dim valve
Argentina?
Wait a second...
you wouldn't happen to be referring to the Hellbound devs, would you?
vague egret
i hope so. i think being close with the community is essential indie or not
crimson folio
no, he's not in the Saibot Studios team
crimson folio
yeah
vague egret
HB didnt make it?
crimson folio
it was obvious, the marketing was terrible
dim valve
6 days left, needs over $14,000
crimson folio
you can't get people involved just by saying your game is the ARGENTINIAN DOOM
vague egret
ive seen crazier things happen in that span. kick starters often see a last minute push
dim valve
It's Hellbound, Lain
dim valve
Honestly, the utter failure of Hellbound only makes me wonder how Dusk was able to become semi-famous in this overcrowded indie gaming market to begin with? Was it the graphics? Dave Oshry's enthusiasm? It sure wasn't Szymanski's 2015 podcasts that have 200 views each.
crisp lion
@thorn trout
tired whale
It just might've been
that it didn't suck
Unlike you know, pretty much other "HAHA WE 90s" thing
crimson folio
well... Hellbound didn't have Quakecon
molten peak
Hellbound was so obviously a corny cash-in that felt more like it was exploiting what made old school shooters good instead of celebrating them
dim valve
That's actually a good point, I forgot about Quakecon.
How long until the Dusk community gets their own Dacon for Duskworld tournaments?
molten peak
Ready Player One, but an old school fps
tired whale
It wasn't a wish-fulfillment fanfic with a gary stu though 😃
crisp lion
what's all the big whoop about RPO anyway?
dim valve
have you seen Hellbound tho
tired whale
fair enough lol
dim valve
molten peak
I saw the steam page trailer
dim valve
if this isn't a gary stu wish fullfillment, I don't know what is
It's as if CliffyB got to design the Doomslayer
molten peak
lul
crisp lion
it doesn't help Hellbound's steam page is filled with goddamn Edge Lord Conan pics
molten peak
He almost looks like the Headbangers from Brutal Legend
tired whale
I prefer to believe that it's just some dumb dudes idea of cool
But hey, you just might be right lol
crisp lion
I'm pretty sure a big thing on how and why DUSK succeeded is because David was working on it and had faith in it before NB picked it up as a publisher.
the transparency in it's development, aswell as having GGGmanlives reviewing it
molten peak
Yeah, i found out about Dusk through 3G
dim valve
as well as a much better design for the protagonist
woeful sonnet
burn it in hell
crisp lion
is that all duskdude is atm?
molten peak
ye
crisp lion
a pill with a face on it?
dim valve
he is the gentle wind on a summer day
crisp lion
enough with the meta
dim valve
he is the love in all our hearts
crisp lion
it is tearing me apart!
dim valve
he is the driving force between all that is good in the multiverse
molten peak
Duskdude slays out of mercy and love for lost souls
jaunty meteor
@dim valve It's a bit early to say it failed, there are 9 days left, but Hellbound isn't exactly an authentic 90s shooter at all
At least not the one bit of gameplay we have to judge the game by
dim valve
nah, it says 6 days left on the site
I think I had a discussion with the New Blood staff here a while a back about this
That when you're a small indie team
the best way to go is minimalist graphics
that way you don't blow all your money on visuals rather than gameplay (which is what ultimately hooks fans of indie titles)
graceful wing
❤
crisp lion
wait, since the first draft may or may not be done, does this mean Saturday will have a pic?
graceful wing
?
crisp lion
rare gulch
opal plover
Guys the dusk font (the one that isn't lycanthrope) is it original or can download it somewhere?
opal plover
My man
slim raven
Literally unplayable
REFUNDED
mild ginkgo
we suppport literature here
viral gate
slim raven
I waited 5 minutes staring
xD
@mild ginkgo You shall do no such thing
I demand laws of anarchy
mild ginkgo
mod it in when the sdk comes out :)
slim raven
Fair enough
opal plover
Guys I wanna have a bit of public opinion, who would go back in time and make Dusk have an actual protagonist if they could?
crisp lion
but Dusk was cancelled
fast wigeon
they might be making him into an actual protagonist in ep 3
opal plover
Well no, maybe give him a connection to the nameless city
crisp lion
"there's ideas" they last said
jade root
Because duskdude is better
opal plover
Yeah that's his in game name
sly path
I mean, I refer to him as the Intruder, but Dusk dude suits the retro FPS vibe.
opal plover
Well thing is it's not like duskdude is just a faceless dude, he's supposed to actually be you the player
opal plover
It wouldn't make any sense to just have a protag that has no personallity
slim raven
Hoow abouuuut....
sly path
Comrade Jacob's design though is amazing.
opal plover
xD
fast wigeon
dave said at pax that theyre gonna reveal who duskdude is
slim raven
He thinks and he is a tank
jade root
Like if you really need a face to the name pretend the comic is canon
fast wigeon
so he might not be a faceless protag by the end
opal plover
Guys
sly path
The comic isn't canon, but the art is really damn nice.
opal plover
Jacob's duskdude campain mod
crisp lion
Duskdude's Ladder
jade root
Duskdude is Chuck Norris xDDDDDDDDDDD
fast wigeon
xDDDD x33
crisp lion
Duskdude and the Cult Leader will be revealed by the end
opal plover
I hope the comic brings more iconic stuff to Dusk, it's something that it kinds of lacks, hell it doesn't even really have a main theme.
sly path
I mean, the meat hooks are really iconic.
vale heath
you mean sickles
opal plover
Yeah it wouldn't make any sense for meathooks to be sharp in the inside of the curve
It would just cut the meat then
sly path
True.
opal plover
Anyway super excited for E3 story wise
fast wigeon
same
the story is actually way more interesting than i expected
once you start looking for clues in the environment
sly path
https://twitter.com/TheComradeVideo/status/972492949757071360 But yeah, Jacob's ink work is fantastic.
opal plover
Yeah it's like actually there to add to the style and athmosphere instead of because it's excpected to be there like Carmack would say.
Yeah Jacob kicks ass!
sly path
His work really makes me curious about the parallel pens he uses.
fast wigeon
banned
sly path
Oh.
opal plover
@thorn trout Hey is there a HD version of the cultist circle?
Like the original drawing it was pixelated from?
slim raven
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
opal plover
Why?
fast spire
10/10 worst game - IGN
opal plover
WHY?
opal plover
I don't get it
slim raven
xDDD
fast spire
Looks like there wasn’t a base drawing.
frozen heart
theres nothing to get
fast spire
@opal plover
opal plover
I just wanted to see what the original drawing looked like
slim raven
Your confusion is the best part @opal plover
opal plover
Pls
slim raven
xDDD
atomic egret
opal plover
😝 💦 😩
fast spire
Just a bunch of pixels thrown together made to look like a sigil
opal plover
Yeah but the way it has transparent pixels makes it look like it was scaled down.
atomic egret
probably just the brush tool in photoshop
fast spire
Idk. Possible that it was a scaled down pic. The placement of the symbols just look like they were made like that to begin with
opal plover
We need confirmation from the man himself
fast spire
There’s a lot of shit going on in that symbol
slim raven
Yeah it was scaled down.
Further conversation of this topic will result the game being taken down from steam
Wow, we better listen to him.
fast spire
Boi
frozen heart
it's not satire if actually the same
opal plover
Is that from doom 4 or something?
fast spire
Silent hill
opal plover
Oh yeah
fast spire
Halo of the sun
frozen heart
Silent Shill
fast spire
Wouldn’t it be funny if Shillboi himself advertised at this moment?
opal plover
Do not advert his gaze
opal plover
Even in this server?
atomic egret
aye
opal plover
Is that a yes?
atomic egret
vale oar
Gil machine broke
atomic egret
shut your up
vale oar
No
atomic egret
shut the up
vale oar
Shot you
fast spire
Aye is the only true way to say yes
shut mesa
shut FUCK
fast spire
No u
atomic egret
NO YOU SHUT A FUCK
shut mesa
atomic egret
fast wigeon
shut the fuckijg of up
atomic egret
vale oar
come on Gil we are trollin' ya so that you could respond us again and again and get BJ rank FASTER
fast wigeon
what does he/she personally
shut mesa
speak for yourself viscont
shut mesa
jade root
Da zeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
atomic egret
do not
prisma halo
1xp away from BJ
vale oar
lmao
jade root
I want gilb to remain as lil mari #sads
prisma halo
they grow up so fast
atomic egret
quick post a tu hu meme to distract jab
prisma halo
2hu is banned
atomic egret
prisma halo
I swear everything has changed while I was in Europe
jade root
Since it was pointless
frozen heart
i agree DW is a waste of time
jade root
Soon it'll be ae/dusk sdk role tho
prisma halo
die
jade root
No
frozen heart
prisma halo
avain man sdk when
atomic egret
bullet hell script
prisma halo
script hell bullet
jade root
As long as lil Mari is alive I thrive
atomic egret
loan me an item
jade root
Ze
atomic egret
why!!
vale oar
woo lil mari is back
frozen heart
this isn't your personal ERP server Jab
atomic egret
vis let me borrow your rank
vale oar
😛
jade root
This is a dark rp server now
prisma halo
dusk rp
rare gulch
Oh no
atomic egret
why !
jade root
Keaton will play the role of dog so I can shoot him like the fucking mutt he is
prisma halo
oof
rare gulch
Oof
frozen heart
rare gulch
atomic egret
rare gulch
prisma halo
words of a maniac
opal plover
Hey zomzom you know anything about the making of the comic book?
atomic egret
probably not
opal plover
What a shame
jade root
Big zom only makes bdusk mods and complains about code to scott
prisma halo
yes
rare gulch
Dusk comic book is comming 
thorn trout
Twitter
atomic egret
rare gulch
opal plover
I swear if an entire level's layout in E3 is like loss...
vale oar
🤔
frozen heart
or is it in Ep 1 or 2 and we've just never noticed
opal plover
Could it be?...
jade root
I'm suprised nobody has tried to find it yet
opal plover
Some things are not meant to be known by humanity
rare gulch
Only sort of easter egg I found was this: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/937180078373894295/290B9978115F17736BE5CD852DEF107EA97BB462/ when I was jumping around lol
fast wigeon
wheres that
fast wigeon
ik theres one in e2m1 oob
frozen heart
E2M2
prisma halo
ah yes, that level in the picture
the one level you all so desperately wish to see
:^)
crisp lion
that level in the picture is the old E1MS
prisma halo
yes
jade root
Water level
prisma halo
swamp
fast wigeon
are all of these cut levels going to be left in the sdk
fast wigeon
ok
prisma halo
there's some cut E2 levels too, which are pretty interesting
rare gulch
Oh damn
vale oar
NutsDude
shut mesa
okay, this is epic
serene needle
I like that we don't know who DuskDude is.
crimson folio
he's the ranger from quake
fast spire
Plittwost
crimson folio
half-brother to quake´s ranger and cousin to doomguy
^this tbh
also nephew of grizzled war veteran john mullins
crimson folio
it's from soldier of fortune
dim valve
^not this tbh
all true dusk fans know that Dusk Dude is actually Hiro from Daikatana but with enough details left obscure so the lawyers can't sue David
fierce lichen
Why not make a post-release of cut levels as bonus content. It doesn't need to follow a theme or be an episode as a whole. Just as an extra
atomic egret
yes please
serene needle
ngl I'm hype as hell for workshop content
gleaming berry
yeah it should be ROBUST
the SDK is gonna let you do just about anyting
@prisma halo is a wizard
may he be praised
opal plover
By the way hidden dopefish is in E2M3
Also I have pics of old E1MS that 500 sent me, if you don't mind @prisma halo I could post them
crimson folio
do it
crimson folio
they used to have an archive on NB website on the press kit thing, there were a couple of videos of that swamp level
oh wait
its the gifs
but there was an archive of small videos
frozen heart
i think the old E1MS has been posted at least a dozen times in this server lol
opal plover
Well yeah
vale oar
@urban sparrow ^
crimson folio
any word on when E3 will be out btw
jade root
nah
fast wigeon
soon
crisp lion
crimson folio
sooner than the next Tool album, for sure
crimson folio
good things are worth the wait so awesome
crimson folio
same here, the game is really good
id love more episodes don't get me wrong but its great either way
crisp lion
if the final version (aka full release, no more Early Access) is successful a fourth episode maybe made
crimson folio
that would be neat
opal plover
Yeah
Actually you know what would be even better
Shadow of the serpent riders style two episode continuation
crimson folio
that would be neat
opal plover
Well E3M9 and E3M10 are like the only not so playable ones right?
And I guess the rest are like not whole
mild ginkgo
sure-ish
opal plover
Anyway what's this screen
fast wigeon
thats e2m3
opal plover
Like E2M3 is one of the prettiest levels
And you had to pick the beta screen with the outdated skybox
Why
atomic egret
yeah smh update that screenie
opal plover
prisma halo
@opal plover I wouldn't be the person to ask for permission about releasing screenshots btw, but if they were sent to you without being told not to redistribute them it's probably fine, I believe those shots have been posted publicly here anyway
I remember us posting full-map shots of the old E1MS
mild ginkgo
yeah they absolutely have been
opal plover
Cool
mild ginkgo
people could find them if they just scrolled back
opal plover
Gonna make the lurkers dig through the channel to earn them though
mild ginkgo
lol
placid pebble
maybe
that not my actual oob record, but it was funny to make a subpar that it better than speedrun without it
placid pebble
tranks <3
rare gulch
<3
onyx sphinx
I feel like I'm going insane, but does DUSK episode 2 have a secret level? Or am I not looking hard enough?
crimson folio
@hollow ivy dusk 3 when?
graceful wing
sometime between now and the heat death of the universe
crimson folio
👌 
👌
rare gulch
That sounds reasonable 
crimson folio
rare gulch
slim raven
Where is the jump sound effect file located?
graceful wing
sorry, we can't help when it comes to extracting game assets before the official SDK releases
crimson folio
heretic´
graceful wing
we can't and won't stop people from extracting our assets
we'd appreciate it if you didn't share them anywhere though
slim raven
o7 @graceful wing
I just wanted to replace the jump sound effect with "OOF"
No harm.......................right?
graceful wing
personal modding - go right ahead
slim raven
👌
vague egret
balmy sluice
😡
rare gulch
"Again"
gleaming berry
balmy sluice
That's fucking sick
balmy sluice
When will it include an actual ssg?
vast tangle
I WANT
fair mirage
dude if i had a 3d printer, i'd print an irl ssg
all in its blocky gloriousness
poke an eye out with a barrel
north oriole
fair mirage
yeah that's pretty neato
amber drift
i have to wonder how good that expansion will be given they fired their sound guy for reasons
his work was a big part of the appeal
frozen hull
ohfuck when did that happen
frozen hull
oof
amber drift
kinda dumb, they should have discipined him or something, he played a very important role in their success
frozen hull
Oh wait that's in reference to subnautica
frozen hull
Slightly less concerned now. But still shitty.
crisp lion
Fourteen?
as in like your 14 years old? :D XD
frozen hull
I'd been MIA from here for like two months and thought I'd seen news that left me shooketh. Sorry to drag it off topic.
slim raven
DARUDE DUSKSTORM
rare gulch
slim raven
Sorry, It popped into my head and I had to let it out here
jaunty meteor
@amber drift His sound design wasn't irreplaceable
Reverb and low-pass filters are a staple of any DAW :p
woeful sonnet
@slim raven andrews demonic quire with organ interpretation of darude though.... 🤔
slim raven
Whut
woeful sonnet
Well if e3 is composed entirely of memes I think its safe to say we'll get an demonic orchestranian metal interpretation of darude sandstorm.
rare gulch
rare gulch
We will find out
bronze nacelle
are the modding tools available yet?
fast wigeon
the sdk isnt available yet no
but i think you can make levels for dusk with trenchbroom already although idk how
rare musk
Yeah, no SDK yet
You will be able use trenchbroom to make Dusk maps at some point, and Trenchbroom is already a thing you can map in, though.
You'll need to wait for the SDK to actually do anything with them, though
bronze nacelle
Is their a wad file I can use or am I supposed to create quake maps?
prisma ivy
bronze nacelle
is their a license for the icons in the goodies folder?
bronze nacelle
can I use them in my own projects?
shut mesa
totes is
bronze nacelle
@thorn trout can I use the stuff from the goodies folder for my own projects?
I'll just leave it then...
I'm going off now
bye
bye
thorn trout
@bronze nacelle can you be more specific?
crimson folio
"stuff" isn't specific enough? 😄
rare gulch
tired whale
peggle crossover when
fast spire
no stealing my ideas
rare gulch
tawny briar
when will boots get a bottom?
crisp lion
I swear the zub-bot is the only thing keeping this server active at times
steady aurora
Y'know, shillbot is just like constant foreplay.
Teasing bastard
graceful wing
doosk
steady aurora
dusksud
graceful wing
dusk -> dosk -> dork
steady aurora
dusk is very clearly evolving
graceful wing
👌
graceful wing
dusk -> dosk -> dork -> d0rk 😂 👌
steady aurora
🔥 d0rk savage af - annoying boosted music plays
unique ivy
🅱usk
rare gulch
🅱0rk
frozen heart
🅱wark
gleaming berry
frozen heart
jokes on you i don't wear underwear
crisp lion
bahahaha
gleaming berry
newp E3M4
crisp lion
welp
at least we gettin more than just bally bone bois, flufferc00bs, t-pose flying bois, and da soopa sekrit b0s
crisp lion
and maybe 3rd tier mages, and fire head bois
crisp lion
Has HP Lovecraft gone too far?
Zuckerburg confirmed for EP3 appearance as gecko-mage
gleaming berry
lol
crisp lion
might cancel later
Press ESC to cancel respects
steady aurora
welp, goodnight all
gleaming berry
GGWPNNGN
rare gulch
opal plover
E3M4 looks fucking repulsively disgusting
Better have some real dirty/grungy tunes for it @urban sparrow
rare gulch
rare gulch
Yep!
vast tangle
Which is all the better
opal plover
Those ulcers though
I feel like knowing that there's something behind that wall will make the moment 10x scarier.
jade root
It's Todd Howard ready to smash your fucking face in with the steel case version of Skyrim
atomic egret
fallout seventy skyrim
crisp lion
atomic egret
congratulations you got the reference
can we get a david or dave model for duskworld where the face is just a texture of them doing the sam lake grimace
opal plover
^^^^^^^^^
crisp lion
:O
crisp lion
@thorn trout doom dade plz
atomic egret
please make it happen
shut mesa
oo new d00sk screens
rare gulch
Dosk
vale oar
NEW SCREEEENZ
opal plover
E3M2 looks super good
balmy sluice
H
hollow ivyBOT
H
balmy sluice
Imo, self damage should not get rid of your multiplier on endless.
fast spire
Opinions are not allowed
serene needle
H
pale hare
The last chapter hasn't came out yet, right?
fast wigeon
nope
crimson folio
it did, four years ago
steady aurora
It's not coming out, it's been cancelled
if it has 3 in the title
it ain't coming mang
agile hill
steady aurora
It all makes sense
crimson folio
halo 3 confirmed
rare gulch
Halo 33*
rare gulch
Oi, my bad
crimson folio
No one mentioned Duskdude face reveal yet ?
mild ginkgo
who said thats even duskdude
😉
jk tho
yeah idk, jacob does his thing
i dont think dave and david have been directing him heavily
shut mesa
cult leader face reveal 
vast tangle
That beard is epic tho
crisp lion
10/10 bogan beard
mild ginkgo
the painting looks sick in general
crimson folio
he looks ~120ish yrs old
crimson folio
ye but theres magic involved
shut mesa
yeah I dont have a point of reference for that
jaunty meteor
[In normie chat]
"That's not Dusk Dude, he has no canonical appearance"
[In Top-Secret UNATCO-Clearance Bunker Dev Chat]
"WHY DO YOU KEEP POSTING DUSKDUDE'S FACE YOU'RE RUINING THE SURPRISE"
quiet rose
Nope
vast tangle
steady aurora
So that's why David spams his caps on everything he messages
modern trellis
Buy Dusk. It's good.
Dave is a narrative genius, and I apologize for shitting on walking sims.
I'm also drunk.
steady aurora
tis the life
crisp lion
oi @mild ginkgo brah where's those renders aye
novel badge
I'm just saying everyone's entitled to their own opinions but if you don't think Skinwalker is the best track released on Andrew's Youtube so far you're wrong.
novel badge
My opinions are made out of facts. Skinwalker > All
solar totem
novel badge
IF skinwalker were posted to Reznor's youtube i wouldn't question it. Best track.
rare gulch
opal plover
E3M2 sounds like a contender for the best track
novel badge
There's contenders, there's pretenders, and then there's Skinwalker the official Best Track
vast tangle
Dead of the Night > all
novel badge
Too late Skinwalker already best track. It's official, see comment above.
vast tangle
novel badge
My opinions are constructed 100% out of fact right here in America.
rare gulch
opal plover
@novel badge
rare gulch
acoustic oriole
skinwalker is my favorite so far, but e3m2 might take over
love me some reznor like sound
crisp lion
sKiNwAlKeR iS tHE bEsT sOnG iN dUsK aNd iF Yo..blah blah blah
rocky lichen
Where should Dusk nerd chats go, you know like, Unity questions and tech talk related to the game
crisp lion
I suppose here, but unity itself should go in either gaming or general
aka Unity in general
Unity-side of DUSK can stay
acoustic oriole
ep 3 in july 2018 isnt a realistic expectation isnt it?
crisp lion
no
crisp lion
first draft is most likely done
(implied) by oshry
since he's working on his first "fix" draft
acoustic oriole
ah ha... shitness.. im excited
acoustic oriole
i was looking forward to ep3 the most since even before i played ep1, thematically. mindfuck inbound
crimson folio
can we add a map of just big johns XD
rare gulch
acoustic oriole
uh oh
rare gulch
Uh oh indeed
mild ginkgo
still untrue
first draft not quite done
also @rocky lichen if you wanna talk dusk tech talk, it can be done here
im around to answer questions right now, should you have them
rocky lichen
im actually interested in the AI, was it written from the ground up and how complex is it? i know it's not supposed to be too complex (otherwise it wouldn't be old skool) but it's still very solid
and is the player movement using character controller? i wouldn't imagine it uses rigidbody physics for movement
rocky lichen
i think the flashback '94 post-process is used for the pixelization and color depth reduction, or was it written from scratch?
mild ginkgo
for grounded enemies
rocky lichen
@mild ginkgo nice, i thought it would be custom
mild ginkgo
its still largely reliant on what is built into unity in navmeshes
enemies taking jump pads is actually a goofy illusion
rocky lichen
really!
crisp lion
they just trampoline on em
crisp lion
a fictional villain once said:
Righ....T...
rocky lichen
patiently waiting for art to be drawn
mild ginkgo
so, every enemies model, is paired to a parent tracking point basically, that can only follow navmeshes, and when they touch a jumppad, we just offset the model according to the strength of the jumppad, the tracking point stays on the ground, because it has to be on a navmesh. so if the player is on a platform above the ai, it will attempt to move directly underneath the player if theres no alternate route, and will actually fall through the platform if it looks like it will land on it. this can best be observed in the second endless arena map, where enemies will fall through the second level platform after taking jumppads
its incredibly goofy
theres a couple other quirks of the ai
like if they cant reach their goal, they will run in a random direction for a while, and then try again
ideally, it probably wouldve used ai similar to quake, but its too late for that now
flying enemies are totally different to this, but you guys havent fought them yet, so we'll leave that one alone for now
rocky lichen
ahh i see, so the enemies dont really have much perception of height when it comes to pathfinding the player?
mild ginkgo
they DO, but theres no way for them to get to you if theres no physical navmeshed path
rocky lichen
ahh yeah
mild ginkgo
support for that will likely be added when we release the SDK
because the ai will likely be rewritten at that point
as for your other questions
i dont even know what flashback 94 is, dusk doesnt use that
and the player movement does use the character controller component, yes, which do rely on rigidbody physics, however we also have a custom controller attached
rocky lichen
Yeah, it's just an asset that has pixelation and colour depth shaders paired to a script that attaches to a camera
rocky lichen
I wasn't sure if the shaders had been written from scratch or forked from this
mild ginkgo
yeah the color depth is just a really basic palette/LUT
rocky lichen
The pixelation is a post process shader? Or is it a rendertexture that's regenerated for each pixelation level?
mild ginkgo
post process for now, but as with the AI, itll just be a rendertexture for the SDK
(the sdk will basically be a complete rewrite of the entire game)
rocky lichen
Really? Why is it being changed?
mild ginkgo
well, for that specifically, a rendertex is sort of more accurate
but in general, the game will be rewritten to make it more mod friendly, perform better, be more modular, and separate the assets from the codebase entirely
the last part being the best part
rocky lichen
Yeah, I was thinking using postprocess will always be rendering more than necessary
Is it being rewritten in Unity?
rocky lichen
Did David write the shaders and AI, or is there other team members for certain tasks?
mild ginkgo
almost every shader just uses the standard shader
but yeah, david did 99% of everything thats not music in the game
rocky lichen
I'm fascinated by the precision of levels like Blood and Bone in the crawl spaces, ProBuilder even with ProGrids is tricky to get aligned really cleanly in my experience
mild ginkgo
funny part is most of the game was built with a very old version of probuilder
the sdk will support BSP though for some better workflow
we have a custom bsp loader for runtime loading of bsps in unity
which also means you wont have to use shitty unity lightmaps
prisma halo
blender
mild ginkgo
and as for animations
its a mixed bag
some used blender, some used unity
i think @prisma halo ported MOST of them away from unity though?
prisma halo
it's an active process
mild ginkgo
heh
prisma halo
I know how to do it, but it's a little fiddly with some of them
since I need to recenter stuff
since many of them are animated off-center and then corrected in the prefab
opaque spindle
Oh David and his jank
primal flax
Dusk is lovely.
crimson folio
is it?
crimson folio
not a Quake 1 man?
crimson folio
have to agree old sport
jade root
Qwoke
crimson folio
QuakerOats
shut mesa
kveik
rare gulch
quak
crimson folio
whats everyones least favorite dusk level, and favorite?
vital heron
Dunno about a least favorite, but I think E2MS may be my favorite.
crimson folio
Dead of the Night was my favorite
I think my least was the Cutty Mine but it wasnt awful, just got turned around often
vast tangle
Least: Dunno. There isn't a level I really dislike
Most: Either E2M5 (The Escher Labs) or E2M6 (The Erebus Reactor)
steady aurora
Not sure about least but my favorite is E2M8 Blood and Bone
vale oar
My fave is defo E3M5
steady aurora
Reeeeeee
daring solstice
I just realized another thing I love about dusk
there's no level I would even slightly dislike
usually there's at least one awful level in every game
and my fav ones would be the big john level, the dig and neobabel
crimson folio
I love watching the robed figures bouncing perpetually in midair XD
daring solstice
bouncing big john is the shit
jade root
Twitter
tired whale
no
crimson folio
why not..ep3 release, then memes?
jade root
impossible with our current business plan
graceful wing
yeah the dusk twitter is all dave now while david focuses on dev
graceful wing
enjoy the memes gamers
crimson folio
D:
shut mesa
Whats up #gamernation we got the hottest gaming memes
graceful wing
#GamerJoke
crimson folio
😑
fast wigeon
playing dusk with your own music is pretty fun
vast tangle
As long as they're dank enough
vale oar
Why the hell does Dave look like Tim Roth here lol
vast tangle
Uh oh
He's gonna cancel Dusk and try to rob a restaurant only to be stopped by Samuel L. Jackson
Or try to rob a bank and get shot in the gut
Don't rob things
vale oar
Okay now I know everything about Pulp fiction mysterious case
IT CONTAINED EPISODE 3
Inside.
vast tangle
😱
jade root
its a good level
rotund hinge
That was the level that really showed me this game isn't just a novelty
rotund hinge
I mean, no offense to Episode 1 or anything, it was all freakin' great
but E2M5 is when shit gets real
E2M5 is the difference between "This game is great for that Quake, old-school itch" and "This game is great for everyone, why aren't you playing it yet"
Neobabel might actually be my least favorite level
Dunno why, just didn't really do it for me
vast tangle
I'd love to see E2M5 through an editor, to see what kind of wizardry Dave did there
vale oar
Cheater 😛
daring solstice
my og strats
what I did is
I gave myself xbow
and then shot the button to secret doors all the way from the cornfield
I'm gonna record that with obs
probably gonna do that tommorow
tawny briar
any new news on dusk?
vale oar
u mean ep3 right
tawny briar
or DW
daring solstice
are there news that aren't new?
vale oar
Dusk does not exist. Let's go home boiz
vale oar
wwwut
mild ginkgo
E3 isnt the biggest week in games news for nothing
tawny briar
dusk at e3 lol
vale oar
e3 at e3
vale oar
🙃
daring solstice
loadouts aren't allowed according to official ruleset for single levels
still feels good man
vale oar
accessible meh
daring solstice
Difficulty makes no difference with this trick
but yeah I know what you mean
MEH
vale oar
😛
tawny briar
^^
jaunty meteor
I thought E2M5 was cool but my fav level is definitely E2M3
Big Surface Tension vibes, and not just because of the scenery; the way you have to cut through a huge arena of bad guys bit by bit is very half-lifey
opal plover
Least is definitely E1M4 steamworks
crimson folio
the last boss in E2 is easily telefrag-able 😛
crimson folio
but on the boss levels, is there also a soap?
shut mesa
yeah
vale oar
np
opal plover
You know a game is good when the worst level is just the one that's the most forgettable and not the most unplayable.
opal plover
And projectiles can telefrag enemies too
rare gulch
Well I mean I knew about telefragging
But I didn't know that it was possible on bosses
opal plover
Why wouldn't it be though, David hates bosses.
crimson folio
ive done it several times without trying XD
vast tangle
E1M4 forgettable? It has the FREAKIN' DOPEFISH
crimson folio
secrets within secrets within secrets wi......
jade root
Cells within cells
crisp lion
Within Cells Interlinked
rare gulch
Uhu
daring solstice
do you guys want to see my shitty e1m2 run vid?
opal plover
Yee
vast tangle
Noice!
daring solstice
also it might not look like it but that button is a real bitch to hit from that far away
setup is literally pixel perfect
and that rat in the basement actually killed me few times, funny stuff
crimson folio
so theres full ep1 speedrun but no ep2 only individual levels
daring solstice
this is false
opal plover
Guys
In the level select E2M2 is called "unseen"
But it's actually called "the unseen"
vale oar
let me unsee this
rare gulch
radiant venture
@crimson folio ep2 is down to 6:47 ish
rare gulch
Gotta go fast
eternal carbon
@crimson folio i think there have been 4 people in total to do full ep 2 runs, you can see them down on speedrun.com
also ep2 has sat at 6:44 for 3 months now
eternal carbon
still wonder if ep1 oob record will ever be beaten
radiant venture
I don't think anyone is trying tbh
because oob is inferior to inbounds, except for e1m9
eternal carbon
no one was trying when i set it, it's just how it starts
radiant venture
because e1m9 oob is insane
eternal carbon
far easier to do e1m9 oob sub 15 than to do e1m9 sub 30 inbounds lol
like faar far
radiant venture
well yeah?
you can't compare inbounds and oob like that
except for the fun factor
prisma kestrel
heh, all that talk above re: "least favorite level" -- i guess also pencil me into the "there isn't a bad one; can't answer" club :P
prisma kestrel
there aren't any "ugh, this level" moments. everything's above the "good" line :P
radiant venture
my least fave is actually blood and bone
prisma kestrel
like i guess by default there's a few less-interesting ones when you compare them to the rest, but that's always a thing
fast wigeon
i thought the dig was less interesting too
although its the closest were getting to ep 3 right now so it has that going for it
prisma kestrel
a different way to phrase it: i'd have to think real hard to pick out the least fave, which is a good sign
radiant venture
I don't think blood and bone is bad by any means, I just didn't enjoy it as MUCH as the other levels
especially since you already played escher lab, erebus reactor and such
which are godlike levels
prisma kestrel
escher lab is the bestest
fast wigeon
kind of a shame the name of the level gives the twist away
radiant venture
yeah, I love escher lab
prisma kestrel
a bit, yeah :P
radiant venture
the twist in erebus reactor is my favourite
prisma kestrel
if y'all saw that tweet about the guy who wrote a long post about escher labs based of the initial impression of the level and then immediately deleted it after they played the rest of it, that was totally my reaction too :P