t-pose mages still be tposin
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
crisp lion
opal plover
As for bosses I think they'll be done after the regular monsters
mild ginkgo
i cant even confirm if the codex will be a thing m8
opal plover
It'd better
be
Well it's not like it would take long to make anyway
Unless there's like one paragraph of backstory for each levels
mild ginkgo
also those mages no longer just tpose
opal plover
Yeah they put their hands over their heads don't they?
vale oar
@opal plover
mild ginkgo
been a minute
crisp lion
perhaps
opal plover
mild ginkgo
dont think so
mild ginkgo
i could be wrong, again
nah they move slightly
not just tpose
hard to see in a blurry gif
opal plover
Honestly feel like it would be better of they just t-posed and just tilted depending on where they're going
and have them lunge a bit for their fireballs
Also are the fireballs placeholder projectiles?
mild ginkgo
no idea
opal plover
I hope so
opal plover
projectile diversity is cool
Maybe plasma balls like cacos
"When I drew nigh the nameless city I knew it was accursed."
Totally putting that in my full steam review
Aren't fast fire totems supposed to have a light flare effect?
mild ginkgo
not afaik
solid quest
how many levels does each episode have in dusk?
mild ginkgo
11]
solid quest
does it pick up difficulty later on?
mild ginkgo
yeah e2 is significantly harder than e1
solid quest
yeah I was gonna say
I've been playing though on normal atm and I 've found it to be a bit of a cake walk
jaunty meteor
As someone who thought E1 was way too easy E2 is significantly more difficult
solid quest
nice
jaunty meteor
Also if you think normal is too easy, try cero miedo
mild ginkgo
yeah you can cchange difficulty on the fly in the menu
jaunty meteor
I absolutely cannot play on normal under any circumstances anymore, everything feels too slow :p
mild ginkgo
we fully encourage that
solid quest
I'll probs play through e1 on hard sickle start before I do e2
that's how I usually play old school fpses
rare gulch
Will e3 be more difficult than the second tho?
flint cedar
I say we still have 30 years to go before EP3 comes out so you know many things will change probably.
opal plover
@mild ginkgo fast fire totem totally had a light flare effect before, probably a bug. Unless it's a feature?...
From triple g's E1 review
Wait no
They just don't have light flares in E2M10 as far as I know.
woeful sonnet
We need a dog cube plushy
vale oar
BAD DOGGIE
crimson folio
Where are the wooden Woofmobiles?
molten bane
I've always imagined DUSK dude looking like a black bald Caleb in suspenders
acoustic halo
I feel like every FPS should have an FOV slider that reaches the "cynical" setting.
Just as a default.
molten bane
what's that? :v
shut mesa
cynical brit reference
aka total biscuit
who was always jabbering on about FOV sliders in his reviews
and was a meem
acoustic halo
Screenshot isn't the best demonstration of that particular FOV level, but I love how much information is displayed to me when it's scaled this far.
mild ginkgo
id be down for @molten bane's interpretation
woeful sonnet
Cynical is the only way to play
eternal carbon
give me 70 fov or give me death
molten bane
@mild ginkgo tada you brought my will to draw back from the dead
and hoo boy has it been a while since I last drew
mild ginkgo
helllll yeah
molten bane
I'm so rusty, it's been a while since I last drew something
pissed off bald black dude with two sickles and an attitude
Nothing more can be said about him
Would love to get back into the groove so that I can make shit like this again
I did this in pen with absolutely no guidance or references
mild ginkgo
talent 👌
molten bane
I kind of want to get into drawing freaks and weirdos again, they're fun to do. This one was a reimagining of that abomination spider thing from Afraid of Monsters which was just a messed up vortigaunt model stretched to hell
topaz oracle
plot twist: dusk guy is actually a rogue cultist
vale oar
plot twist: dusk guy is actually the cult leader
molten bane
I like to think of him having a similar rising like Caleb from Blood, rising from a hollow tomb to usurp power from the evil overlords of the cult
Their evil cult stuff reanimated him after their hostile take over of the area and fearing his anger sends those chainsaw dudes to chop him up before he can rise
fresh onyx
i think that might be my favorite idea for dusk dude that ive seen so far
like a cross between spawn and brother voodoo or something
and bonus points for bald and hatless
molten bane
who he was prior we'll probably never know, maybe he was a loyal cultist rising in rank and power to the point of making those gods squirm in their seats and they sacrificed him.
Or a pissed off farmer taking vengeance on monsters that disturbed his nap in his awfully dirty and sealed off basement
crimson folio
I always saw Duskdude as Edgyana Jones the theif, who stuck his nose somewhere he shouldn't have been and got killed or somehting, and that's why you're on those meathooks. You WERE going to be butchered of later rituals, but when you, the player, showed up and woke him, mister disembodied voice guy detected a disturbance in the force and ordered the three Leathernecks that were supposed to do the butchering to "get on with it, will you?"
The rest is history.
dim valve
Dusk Dude is actually a gigantic penis like that one Sonic Generations mod
uncut pilot
I thought he was just a collection of guns. Kind of like the hand in Trespasser.
serene sandal
Just attempted to play DUSK via the new Steam Link app. Wild.
mild ginkgo
lol
dim valve
Dusk OC?
crisp lion
crimson folio
crisp lion
@mild ginkgo REEEEE
prisma kestrel
@prisma kestrel highlights!
crimson folio
Xaser?
graceful wing
@crimson folio good stuff, but as some others here already pointed out remember to use #general-art to post your original works from now on 👍
crimson folio
@prisma kestrel Xaser?
crisp lion
somebody stroked out
crimson folio
@graceful wing My bad! Thank you!
crisp lion
big thankie mcspankie plz
mild ginkgo
ill get around to it later, i have to finish BIG SECRETS
crisp lion
TM
topaz oracle
can any devs confirm RPG elements + battle royal mode being added to DUSK?
crimson folio
@topaz oracle You can mod the game in full version
topaz oracle
@crimson folio I was being very sarcastic 😛
crimson folio
topaz oracle
hey its good enough for CoD
shut mesa
not an exactly high bar to set
eternal carbon
cant wait until the warcraft 3 mod is made for multiplayer :)
jade root
Dusk 2 will be a Diablo-like IS
eternal carbon
fond memories of wc3 servers
topaz oracle
@jade root maybe DUSK World (tm) featuring emergent open world AI, survival, and a bonus zombie mode
eternal carbon
is br mode what i think it is
fair mirage
butt roller
eternal carbon
thanks for teaching me an acronym lol i never knew that people called battle royale 'br'
im used to the old meaning of br
mild ginkgo
brasil
jade root
Brsl
prisma kestrel
brenda romero?
also, someone add a Battle Quarter Pounder mode
[i have definitely already made this joke somewhere]
acoustic halo
@crimson folio Holy shit, those are great.
acoustic halo
Is there a way to turn off elements of the UI in Dusk? I didn't notice any in the main menu.
acoustic halo
Thank you.
vale oar
acoustic halo
Huh. This option to completely change the color scheme of the entire game is something I didn't realize would be cool until I played with it.
Now, it's seems like such an obvious and simple set of options, and I wonder why it isn't in more games
vale oar
'cause the devs don't give a shit about some fucking colors and stuff
mild ginkgo
its funny because it was added to dusk so haphazardly
shut mesa
cold = best colorscheme
acoustic halo
I've got it on totally-not-Quake, but the definitely-not-deus-ex setting also appealed to me
mild ginkgo
david added it in in like one day, without telling anyone he was going to do it lol
just out of nowhere
with no plan
vale oar
SUDDENLY
mild ginkgo
yep
mild ginkgo
limited pallete and some pixelization 2-3, is the way dusk was designed to be played
shut mesa
hell ye
vale oar
nah I like full color preset personally
shut mesa
pretty much how i did my first playthrough lol
vale oar
and 35 fps 😉
shut mesa
that's a big ol no
mild ginkgo
yeah no ty
shut mesa
i never buy FPS games unless i know i can play it at 60fps
3rd person etc. is whatever
vale oar
no thanks
mild ginkgo
34 fps is ultra hardmode
vale oar
that weird frame-based shit
mild ginkgo
yep
molten bane
So many weapons to switch to on the number bar
I always on instinct try to switch to a weapon that would occupy a spot in the bar where a weapon would be in doom
mild ginkgo
yeah theres a ton of weapons and people still want more lol
molten bane
Like shotguns all being on slot 3
imo, weapons that have dual variants should be replaced by their dual variants once obtained
And then try to condense the weapon roster into 7 or less slots, with some weapons sharing a slot like in Doom
woeful sonnet
I agree with the notion of the guns being replaced but 7 slots sounds like a little to limiting to me.
molten bane
any weapons in front take priority
slot 1: melee sickles/sword
slot 2: pistol -> dual pistols
slot 3: shotgun -> dual shotguns/ssg
slot 4: assault rifle
slot 5: grenade launcher/riveter
slot 6: hunting rifle/bolt arrow
slot 7: cigar, i have no idea what this is other than a literal cigar
As far as I know the game doesn't have a BFG equivilent other than the riveter, but you wouldn't have to reach across the number bar to pick a specific weapon
mild ginkgo
but the dual shotguns are like, totally different form ssg imo
woeful sonnet
They are
mild ginkgo
you can always rebind the keys if you arent comfortable with number 9
molten bane
?
woeful sonnet
And I have no problem nabbing number 8 or 9 on my keyboard
Yeah just use keys like f g z x c
mild ginkgo
every weapon can be rebound
molten bane
No, what did you mean by dual shotguns and ssg being different
woeful sonnet
Like most quake pros do for the rocket launcher lightning gun or rail gun
molten bane
They should reside in the same slot
molten bane
Just because they're in the same slot doesn't mean they serve a similar purpose
woeful sonnet
Same for me
mild ginkgo
then why put them in the same slot?
i dont get the purpose other than make it harder to select the weapon you want
the reason games did that imo was because they were similar
mild ginkgo
lol
but yeah, i mean,you could always mod it if you prefer it that way
we cant make everyone happy sadly
if we could we would!
shut mesa
its more of a finisher weapon for me against tough bois
molten bane
I feel y'all are completely misinterpreting it, but okay.
shut mesa
your feeling are wrong
prisma ivy
Yeah
molten bane
melee/pistol/shotgun/automatic/explosive/rifle/etc.
each weapon fulfills a specific purpose, but they can be generalized under an existing slot so they're easier to access and remember
shut mesa
but then you have to scroll through them in the same slot
molten bane
dual shotguns and the ssg function differently, but they're both shotguns, and should share a slot together
shut mesa
and cant be accessed as fast
molten bane
Have you ever played Doom 2?
mild ginkgo
but they serve totally different purposes
shut mesa
i have, and doom is not dusk
mild ginkgo
and now you make it harder to get the weapon you want
molten bane
And the single shotgun is redundant, replace it with the dual shotguns
mild ginkgo
for me i look at like, you put hunting rifle and crossbow in the same slot
molten bane
What purpose does the single shotgun serve if the dual shotgun does it better
They're both precision
mild ginkgo
now i have to press the button twice to get hunting rifle
so if i need it quickly, i am in big trouble
molten bane
Then press the button faster :v
shut mesa
lul
shut mesa
just get used to having fingers
prisma ivy
Especially in dusk world, where the SSG is one of the most important weapons
mild ginkgo
what does it do better?
shut mesa
DOOM16 conditioned me to stretch my fingers to get the gauss cannon
molten bane
The SSG would take priority over the dual shotguns
mild ginkgo
my thinking is that, while it may be more authentic, im not certain it offers any advantage, thats all
shut mesa
if the SSG wasnt a shotgun but something else entirely with the same purpose, should it still be in the same category with the dual shotguns?
mild ginkgo
you eliminate two buttons, but made it twice as slow to pick the weapon you need
i think it would make a great mod though
molten bane
But would you be using the dual shotguns more than the SSG?
mild ginkgo
in multiplayer yeah
mild ginkgo
lots of people use the single shotgun for midrange damage
shut mesa
in SP dualies are for squishy tings
mild ginkgo
then ssg when close
prisma ivy
^^^
molten bane
Then a shared slot would serve the same purpose.
shut mesa
not though
molten bane
You press the button to switch between dual and ssg
shut mesa
imagine sliding into someone in MP and instead of the SSG you switch to a single shotgun
instead of blowing their legs out you've poked them with a stick
mild ginkgo
i think if we use crossbow and hunting rifle as a good example
molten bane
The SSG takes priority over the single shotgun if you're on a different weapon
mild ginkgo
you wouldnt want the crossbow when you are trying to snipe someone
you just make your time to snipe slower
for what purpose?
shut mesa
yh, imagine quick switching to a railgun in quake for a quick long range finish but its instead something projectile based
welp
mild ginkgo
i think the idea is sound enough, and would make sense if there were more weapons
serious sam style
that game uses that principle well
there are so many weapons that you have to categorize them
and it works well
but i think dusk has few enough weapons to warrant just giving them their own buttons
molten bane
Those are some really specific situations to argue against this, and the weapons switch fast enough for it to be a non issue
mild ginkgo
yea you arent incorrect
but i still dont see what is GAINED from doing it
thats the key thing for me
molten bane
Condense down the pretty extensive weapon selection into something sensible, so that I can focus on the game and know where the button is without taking my eyes off the screen
prisma ivy
Eh
There's not really that many weapons
I don't think anyone has had issues finding the correct one
mild ginkgo
its two buttons though
molten bane
No one ever voiced their opinions about it
mild ginkgo
wouldnt rebinding them be easier/faster?
prisma ivy
And like we mentioned earlier, in the middle of combat it would be even worse to have to double or triple tap a button rather than just pressing one button for the weapon you want
mild ginkgo
is two buttons really that big of a difference?
molten bane
I'd think so
mild ginkgo
yeah i guess thats fair, i cant speak for everyone
molten bane
Opinions are subjective
mild ginkgo
if the two buttons is that much more distracting
yeah deffo
not saying your wrong
just that for me, i prefer the speed over the convenience
molten bane
Besides, it's not like everyone can switch to their next weapon in time considering how quickly you die in dusk world :V
mild ginkgo
yeah, definitely, for me, having dedicated keys is faster than double pressing a button
but thats different for everyone obv
probably an easy mod to make, which is the good news
in fact, it may not even have to be a mod
shut mesa
Yeah im kinda used to reaching out to the 8s and 9s by now
mild ginkgo
the keybinding system will change in dawn
molten bane
Is modding planned at the end of the road map?
mild ginkgo
so you will be able to alias keybinds
yes very much so
we have a full sdk
it will be very very nice
called Dawn
it is essentially a complete rewrite of the entire game
and will be fully moddable
molten bane
I need me to change up the explosion sfx, the sound design in the game is pretty good but there's somethings you wish that had a bit more oomph to them
mild ginkgo
yeah that will be very very easy to accomplish
jaunty meteor
I'm happy that some sounds got a second pass, like the deflect noise
It'd be really awkward in EP3 if it was still a really flaccid digital "dink"
soft dragon
Wait, you're rewriting the whole game for episode three?
soft dragon
Ah, got it. So you're rewriting a version of the game for modding?
mild ginkgo
yep
soft dragon
That's pretty awesome!
mild ginkgo
yeah its cool as heck
soft dragon
For sure. Looking forward to tinkering around with it. What engine is Dusk built on? Unity?
soft dragon
Pretty snazzy. I'm looking to sink my teeth into C# when I grab the time. Sucks Unity won't let me use a meme language like Haskell
molten bane
@jaunty meteor I'd be happy if they gave the player pain another pass, I'm not a big fan of that digital thump
jaunty meteor
That's actually a good point; I'm not so sure why the thump part is needed at all
Did it sound silly with just the VO?
molten bane
The VO would be better off without it
mild ginkgo
i love the playyer damage sound :(
molten bane
If there was any problem with damage feedback, just add in bullet impacts
I love me the sound of flesh being pounded with bullets
soft dragon
Unf
mild ginkgo
no ty
molten bane
regardless, that little digital thunk should go
jaunty meteor
I actually agree that it sounds awkward
molten bane
Awkward in comparison to the rest of the sound design, tbh
jaunty meteor
It's one of the last big vestiges of the time where a majority of Dusk's sounds were synthesized
molten bane
Pain sound
gleaming berry
thats iconic at this point
jaunty meteor
The hit sound, but not the oof itself
gleaming berry
when he goes OOF?
jaunty meteor
The digital thunk that accompanies it
mild ginkgo
y'all crazy
jaunty meteor
It's one of the last vestiges of the era of Dusk's audio design where lots of sound samples were made with digital synths, and it sorta sticks out at this point IMO
Stuff like the gem pickup sound and the deflect were changed from synthy boops to more realistic noises like coins rattling and a sword parry
opal plover
But I like it for that
mild ginkgo
i think it accurately represents what is happening better
its a policy of good sound design to get attention for negative action
wrong and strong
and it pulls that off
molten bane
You mean getting hurt? The screen already flashes red and jerks the view when you get hurt, it won't do any harm to the damage feedback
mild ginkgo
silly realistic sounds just mesh
jaunty meteor
Having a forceful feedback sound would be fine, I mostly only have an issue with it sounding very synthetic in contrast to most of the other sounds
molten bane
^^
mild ginkgo
yeah thats why its good
anything less would just blend and not make you feel bad
youre supposed to feel bad
molten bane
I think the character grunting in pain is enough for you to feel bad
jaunty meteor
Agreed; most older games didn't even have any extra sounds accompanying the oof, IIRC
molten bane
Just like with the doom guy, quake guy, caleb, duke, etc etc..
they didn't need a silly sound to tell the player that you're hurt
a grunt, view kick, and a flash of red is enough
mild ginkgo
those game also had significantly different designs
molten bane
Not really
mild ginkgo
yeah youre right
molten bane
This game is more quake than anything.
mild ginkgo
having a bloody portrait of your character isnt different at all
molten bane
The portrait wasn't really necessary
Have you never been shot at by a chaingunner point blank and seen your screen gradually turn red
The screen turning red alone is enough for damage feedback
I can play the game muted and know when I'm being hurt
Same thing for DUSK
It has plenty of feedback
mild ginkgo
but i think dooms sound design isnt as good
molten bane
It's excellent, excuse you.
mild ginkgo
eh.
molten bane
It gets the point across.
Demons growl
Guns shoot
Player gets an orgasm when he's shot
mild ginkgo
yeah but they could get an orgasm good design
just because those games didnt do it, does not mean dusk shouldnt
molten bane
Because they didn't need to do it
mild ginkgo
or have the foresight to
molten bane
They knew what they were doing with the sound design
opaque spindle
I think you're getting hung up on such a small detail
mild ginkgo
to some degree, sure
theres also been 25 years between then and now
and we've learned quite a bit
molten bane
@opaque spindle It's a small detail that's heard every time I get shot, it sticks out with the rest of the sounds
gleaming berry
idk I've always thought the feedback from shooting and getting shot in DUSK feels good
I however would like more flinch anims for enemies
it's on my list of things to bug David about
molten bane
Quack style of flinching would be amazing
gleaming berry
^^
gleaming berry
shooting things with a shotgun in quake 1 is best feeling thing ever
bloo bloo blah
bloorg blooh blargh
we make do dis
molten bane
Animations are very important in weapon feedback, would make the enemies feel less of a solid entity and one that is vulnerable to our bullets
I'd get a laugh if the super shotty could make the human sized enemies do a back flip in the air as they're blasted away
I don't think the weapons can be touched up further to garner more feedback, they're good enough as it is
summer otter
i feel like shooting quake things with the dusk ssg will b the true cream of the crop
never give up on your dreams
molten bane
The one quakish thing missing from DUSK besides flinching is the gib heads of monsters
opal plover
Yeah monster specific gibs is the one thing I wish dusk had.
molten bane
jade root
prolly will be one of the dev made mods tbh
molten bane
tbh, i think the gibs look like corn and raw beef :V
jade root
they get the point across when you are going fast and SSGing everything
opal plover
I can totally see a gibbed welder having a broken helmet
jade root
plus david isnt a good artist
molten bane
I wish the general response for things being improved isn't "it'll be made a mod probably"
The game can afford a bit of polish
jade root
^
mild ginkgo
hes given it as much polish as he can
jade root
outside of music
its all david
games already incredibly polished
tons of lil things you can interact with
buncha lil details
we dont need 100% of everything that other games do
there will probably be another polish after ep3 is done tho
molten bane
i want this game so polished i can eat dinner off of it
jade root
but we dont want to waste time putting every little tiny detail that quake or doom did, when we could be giving you the full complete product that plays well and is already fun as fuck
opaque spindle
^
mild ginkgo
who knows
jade root
you never know
mild ginkgo
dave will produce it to hell im sure
molten bane
Except the one with a nose
mild ginkgo
once its content complete
molten bane
What is?
jade root
oh i misread that as "noise" not nose
thought you were talking about the hurt sound again
molten bane
I'd like the pain sound to be changed to be in line with the rest of the sound design
jade root
meh
molten bane
You've got all this good sounds, and the one that sticks out the most is the sound you're most likely to hear every time you play the game
jade root
not trying to diss you, but you are the first person who's actually had an issue with it
balmy sluice
Sounds fine to me. Itll sound even better once its Eustace Bagge
molten bane
And would there really be an issue with it being changed?
opal plover
Yeah, it's iconic
molten bane
"iconic"
jade root
each to their own
jaunty meteor
I've actually had an issue with it awhile too but I've just not been bold enough to say anything :p
jaunty meteor
literally the entire server confesses to secretly hating the sound and jabronii is left alone
opaque spindle
Its more than likely not going to change. The sound is fine. But if David or Dave want to change it they'll change it
so I doubt it will change
opal plover
Who wants some huh? Who's next?
opaque spindle
Once mod support comes in you could mod it in yourself 🤷
I don't know what more you want from the game
its already incredibly polished
mild ginkgo
i want a battle royale mode
molten bane
It's one sound. Just take the digital-ness out of it and it would be good.
opal plover
^
molten bane
Sure, and you speak for the majority.
mild ginkgo
if there were more complaints, im sure it would be changed
jade root
^
molten bane
You're pretty much are if you claim I'm the minority and no one else has voiced their opinions on it
opaque spindle
we're always looking at feedback and this is the first time we've seen this complaint
mild ginkgo
if it becomes common, it will absolutely change
opaque spindle
^
mild ginkgo
theyve done it in the past with various things in the game
jade root
no one has voiced an opinion because they dont have issue with it. We check every single feedback post
mild ginkgo
its been largely community feedback driven
opaque spindle
If alot more people get upset about it then it'll change but only you and that other fella have complained about this
We won't change something about the game if its only two people complaining
mild ginkgo
but yeah, there has been no talk of it, so naturally, all we can assume, is that most people like, or dont mind it
molten bane
I wouldn't mind it if it wasn't the odd one out of the rest of the sounds, but fair enough
crimson folio
The battle of the big boxes declared between Fred @ 3d Realms and Darth Davidis tonight in 3drealms Discord... I had to sketch a dumb visual or it'd been trapped forever
opal plover
I really like how ion maiden has the usb inside of a floppy disk
But Dusk has the bacon scented soap
crimson folio
OH MY GOODNESS ANAKIN MIDICHLORINS SKYWALKER DIDNT HAVE A RIGHT HAND EITHER..
That we are having a big box discussion in 2018 warms my soul... Best Buy had to have bigger stores in 90s because of them boxes
magic tree
dusk action figures when
opal plover
Would be pretty easy to 3d print
cerulean matrix
bacon-scented soap?
kek
last big box I've had was for Quake II and Age of Empires II ;A;
fair mirage
bacon-scented soap?
you joke but i think that was an idea that was tossed around for the collector edition
gleaming berry
its literally in the dusk box yes
we're making bacon soap
oh also if you want new impact sounds
MOD THEM INNNNNNN
molten bane
LOUSY EXCUSE BUT ILL DO IT WHEN IT COMES TO IT
mental mango
Wait dusk box?
vague egret
the eventual big box release of dusk
molten bane
will dusk be released in 20 floppy disks to install
vague egret
gonna need a bit more than 20
quick napkin math says 1980 1.44mb diskettes
and going on current amazon rates, the floppies alone would be worth $3158.10
very expensive version of dusk you have there
molten bane
Oh jesus christ
crisp lion
depends what diskettes you use
I'm certain there's High-Capacity ones around nowadays
but IIRC there only like 512 MB tops
that's still like 6 diskettes
mental mango
It's worth the $3158.10
uncut pilot
The pain sound is fine.
It's obviously a retro homage.
I can't believe anyone would complain about something so petty.
jaunty meteor
Make sure the soap is nicely-sealed so it doesn't gunk up everything else if the box is left in a non-climate controlled area for 20 years!
crisp lion
Achievement Ideas huh
here's one generic one
"Return to Sender"
Deflect any projectile back to it's progenitor using the sword
opal plover
Why sword?
crisp lion
idk
wait now I remember
An achievement for leading a Red Mage's homing fireball back at him
opal plover
Killing the duke bros by only deflecting their attacks, "dead man's volley"
merry kite
ahahahaha just noticed this under system requirements
Additional Notes: Don't go in the ruins.
misty mango
what do I have to do to get the red sickles?
crisp lion
all awards
misty mango
kill all enemies + all secrets+ no damage?
misty mango
ay, thanks 😃
crisp lion
👍
misty mango
jep, just found out, thx for the info
vague egret
dont question the shill, heretic
crisp lion
vale oar
Shill sux
vague egret
vale oar
¯_(ツ)_/¯
molten bane
has there been talk of making the leatherneck into a plushie
jade root
yep
i thiiiiiiiiink its included with the big box?
not 100% positive
we'll have more information going forward
vague egret
AFAIK big box is game, ost, and comic
But none of that is set in stone
Kinda a ways down the road
crimson folio
ost and comic come with v1 ?
vague egret
V1?
crimson folio
after early access
vague egret
Those will be DLC items. Though we're talking about giving those to people who supported us in early access. Again, not set in stone
crisp lion
so in theory and vague planning anyone who got DUSK early access gets OST + Comic free?
crimson folio
i bought it in august
vague egret
Oh I stand corrected
crisp lion
i'm sorry what? the SSG does 600 DAM, but the Riveter 500?
honestly that leaves a lot to be desired tbh
that and the Mortar needs a buff, since it feels a shittier than it should :/
vague egret
If you look at the strengths and limitations of each weapon, it makes sense
jade root
riveter does more from any distance
molten bane
SSG has a pretty wide spread
jade root
ssg only gets the max damage when you are right beside them
molten bane
So its usefulness is delegated to close range
jade root
^
molten bane
Gotta get those meat shots, yo
crisp lion
well no shit
jade root
then how does it leave "more to be desired"
crisp lion
it seems odd for a SSG regardless of range to deal more damage than a "rocket launcher"
molten bane
balance over realism
vague egret
Each weapon is situational. We want you swapping weapons all the time
molten bane
Riveter shoots faster and has splash damage that still does considerable damage, I don't think that makes the riveter weaker than the shotgun even if its damage is 100 points lower than the SSG which is only applicable on meat shots
Or if it makes any less sense
jade root
i mean
dooms ssg does at max, 300 damage
while the rocket launcher does, at max, 288
molten bane
Honestly, I think they made the ssg in doom 2 a bit too good
As soon as you get it you don't really have to use the shotgun over it regardless of the spread
jade root
i still find a lot of use out of the shotgun given is excellent sniping abilities
crystal vessel
^
molten bane
The chaingun does it better if you tap fire it
jade root
but yeah for big close range situations, ssg is the way to go
molten bane
the first two shots are accurate
jade root
i generally save chaingun for enemies with high pain chance, like spider demons, revenants, and mancubuses
warped saffron
Yo weapon swappers are cool. I constantly swap weapons because I'm cool. Cool people don't like Quake 2 so much because the weapon swapping is SLOW. Also cool people don't get hung up on numbers so much. Cool people constantly swap weapons for style because we're cool.
molten bane
by slow you mean you have to wait for the weapon to holster or is it just plain slow
warped saffron
It's an excruciating amount of time.
molten bane
yech
delicate sail
About that preorder thing - Actually, Dave was uncharacteristically specific and committed to providing the OST and comic for those who have preordered before Christmas (this is from the Dec 25 update on Steam):
"Fair enough... But I pre-ordered the game in 2017? ...What do I get?!
Good point. We love those of you who were already willing to give us your hard earned money the most - so to thank you for being there for us on DAY ZERO...
We will be upgrading everyone who pre-ordered the game before Christmas to the Digital Collector's Edition of DUSK for FREE.
Yes, that means you will be getting the DUSK 40 page Digital Comic & Original Soundtrack by Andrew Hulshult (The $30 version of the game) completely FREE.
We think that's a pretty good way of saying thank you.
But don't thank us for being so generous. Thank Andrew for agreeing to literally give away thousands of copies of his OST for free. He really is that dude. May he be praised."
So this is discussed again?
jade root
yeet
delicate sail
Alright, cool. Was just a little concerned that this is changed, cuz ever since this was announced, I was really looking forward to both of these and since Dave's usually reeaaally careful with suggesting something he might not be able to fulfill, I never questioned that this will happen after release.
I mean I'm sure that you'll come up with a plan that satisfies all of your supporters, you've been really good at that so far.
agile hill
before.... christmas.....
why.... didnt... i... bought.... it..... earlier.................................
if someone needs me ill be over there.... crying myself into sleep 
vale oar
delicate sail
Bouncing Big John?
delicate sail
Only when he uses the jumppad? Never heard of this before.
vale oar
Yeah
Try walking behind that pipe thing, he may accidently step inside and WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW
desert fractal
that image
what a thrill....
amber drift
with darkness and silence through the AUGRGHGRUHGRUHAGAHUAHUHAAHAAHUH
vale oar
Episode 3 : The AUGRGHGRUHGRUHAGAHUAHUHAAHAAHUHless City
vale oar
big jahn
delicate sail
Hahaha, just tried it. That high pitched voice is hilarious. He even has different pitches - high, normal and low. I feel this is somewhat dependant on speed, direction (falling/rising) and proximity to one another, but I'm not sure what does what.
jaunty meteor
High pitched? Do you mean the doppler effect?
I never really noticed that dusk had that...
delicate sail
Yeah, you could be right. I didn't even think that far and just thought "glitch" right away.
vale oar
yeah high pitched stuff is just LMAO
delicate sail
Flotilla, that's exactly what it is. Just went back to check it once again.
Is this something unity does automatically? Seems like a lot of effort to include it with such limited ways to notice it lol.
jaunty meteor
I want to say I'm like 99% sure it doesn't do doppler automatically
smoky wing
elon dusk when? 
jaunty meteor
but it's a cool effect for a game where you're going fast most of the time
It's slightly noticeable when you're bhopping right past enemies, but I never really thought about it until now
delicate sail
It's amazing attention to detail for sure.
mild ginkgo
@jaunty meteor it absolutely has doppler
jaunty meteor
Oh yeah, he was asking if it was a byproduct of the game being made in unity or something intentionally added by david
vale oar
@thorn trout How 'bout another surprise screenshotofthesaturday? 😄
vale oar
dammit
brisk sigil
TES
serene needle
TES
brisk sigil
they did it again..
fair mirage
the fuck are you doing avain
brisk sigil
time to refund the game!
amber yarrow
brisk sigil
serene needle
i can't do that lmao
brisk sigil
same
sick lintel
i found a dawn public dll file from april in the steam files 👀
serene needle
Meaning?
sick lintel
idk
but dawn is the public sdk that is in development, i doubt a dll file means anything
fair mirage
if i had to guess, it contains a small amount of things that are currently implemented (such as the mp console) that will come with the SDK
sick lintel
ooh ok cool
mild ginkgo
drek is 100%
its just the console
for mp
it got updated in april because of the spectator/team swapping command
fair mirage
nope, still kicks you to the title
summer otter
I want to change my crosshair settings hit ESC, go to options, select Gameplay.. oops wrong page! hit ESC... entirely exiting menu, need to hit ESC again, options Control
its a little nnoying
mild ginkgo
i agree
summer otter
especially when the resets in duskworld happen
summer otter
its annoying but definitely only slight gripe
u dreamt it
we spoke of this previously
and the dream was mentioned
mild ginkgo
nah it totally is in SP
summer otter
glorious
dim valve
no1curr
glass cradle
why am i getting spammed by dusk events?
tawny briar
meems
formal turret
its quite annoying
glass cradle
Now I need to look up how to mute the damm things
formal turret
lemme know if you find out
dim valve
lol just right click fam
tawny briar
TEST
formal turret
icles
foggy tapir
** TEST **
vale oar
wtf dudes
formal turret
STOP THE ANNOUNCEMENTS REEEEEEE
dim valve
when it's been 5 months and you've only seen 5 minutes of E3 footage
foggy tapir
1 minute per month allowed
dim valve
1 second for every reference to another FPS in Dusk
prisma ivy
Yeah
dim valve
insert gabe meme here
glass cradle
I stopped following the dusk group, hopefully it helps
dim valve
it will, but you will experience withdrawal symptoms from the lack of forced oshry memes
glass cradle
I doubt it, I'm not that much into memes in general
prisma ivy
The best one was the one that just said "memes"
mild ginkgo
we apologize for the annoyance
vale oar
I'm gonna sue you all for that
mild ginkgo
it was daves fault
gleaming berry
WE DIDNT MEAN TO LOL
pallid solar
serene sandal
I feel I really missed out on the event spam lol
wraith cape
urm.... my steam overlay isn't coming up with Dusk for some reason? :/
figures, i go and reinstall Steam and game backups. now things are broken lol
pastel swan
So let me get this straight, you buy dusk during early access and you get the current episodes plus the new ones free? Or how does that work
I remember following this game and reading a lot about it, just haven't gotten around to buying it yet, but considering doing that now....
delicate sail
If you buy it now, you get everything that's there so far: 2 Episodes with 11 missions each, 2 endless arenas and the multiplayer beta. At release, the full SP will consist of 3 episodes with 11 missions per episode, 3 endless arenas and the multiplayer called Duskworld will be included as well.
eternal carbon
yeah it's basically just buying the full game, but it's not all ready yet
get 2/3rds now and last 1/3rd on official release
delicate sail
SDK with mod support and coop post launch
pastel swan
So how is the game?
viral gate
👌
pastel swan
I mean I know it is like all the good old games, but does it have a horror'ish theme to it, like an eerie vibe?
viral gate
Sure does
delicate sail
For me personally, hands down one of the best fps in recent years.
pastel swan
I remember the good old doom was able to scare the crap out of me sometimes xD
viral gate
If you've come looking for good shoots and spooks you're heading in the right direction
👻
pastel swan
Awesome so far I am also haveing a blast with strafe millennium edition
viral gate
Good gam
pastel swan
Also scares the crap out of me, but I know it is a rogue lite or like
delicate sail
https://youtu.be/Wtm-T-fRKPE This is an analysis looking at the horror components specifically.
pastel swan
Well didn't need much convincing installing now 😛
If it can scare you like the good old games, then I am all in 😛
viral gate
Have fun
pastel swan
Also Quake man that game could also give you a fright xD
With all the monster groaning and stuff and suddenly BOOOH the groaning crap head was there xD
viral gate
Have you played Quake Arcane Dimensions? Highly recommend it
pastel swan
Quake Arcane Dimensions? :;S
viral gate
Massive map pack with gameplay additions completely free as long as you own a copy of Quake
delicate sail
Get a sourceport like quakespasm to run it, it's a lot of content and fun.
opal plover
@pastel swan If you're looking for horror E2M2 will be a treat.
pastel swan
Just starting it up now 😛
vale oar
remember, DO NOT go to the ruins.
pastel swan
Ruins :S
How the hell do you get that golden cross in E1M2 where you are on the farm
On the huge shed there is a golden cross on the top of the roof just havent found my way up there :S
vale oar
@pastel swan Well, you can rocket jump there...
OR....
Try to solve the basketball mystery 😛
pastel swan
So find the ball shoot it through the hoop? 😛
delicate sail
Might also involve some rocket jumping btw, but not necessarily 😉
vale oar
Try searching for the ball near the rocket launcher 😉
delicate sail
Going through the maze must be exhausting. I think hanging out in the deerstand and just watching the nature around you will be a nice recreational activity to recharge your batteries.
pastel swan
Well where is the rocket launcher? 😛
I have allready gotten the red key, that grants me access to lower lvls of a garage building of some sort
vale oar
Find the corn field first
delicate sail
You should really get up on that deerstand though
Maybe something strikes your eye nearby...
pastel swan
Yeah i see it... But Guessing i need a rocket launcher to get in there
delicate sail
You should find some at the silo near the starting area
vale oar
Do not go away
delicate sail
Now comes the tricky part
vale oar
Try looking around the teleport
delicate sail
Try putting it in the teleporter first
vale oar
yeah
delicate sail
Every object and enemy can be teleported. Projectiles too btw.
pastel swan
Well did it another way xD
Went back to the place i entered the secret room threw it out of the hole 😛
flat inlet
i think thats the way u have to do it, u cant teleport with it if i recall
pastel swan
Rachels secret lab xD
delicate sail
Will be a lot of fun though. 😁
pastel swan
xD
flat inlet
its not broken, improved
pastel swan
Btw what happens if you exit thorugh the secret area where you find the rocket launcher vs through the gate?
I mena exit the level
delicate sail
Secret level 😮
vale oar
Yeah secret map
pastel swan
Ah well figured it didnt wanna do it since I found the backetball so :S
aw man now i feel like starting over xD
vale oar
😄
delicate sail
The great thing is that you can always do that later as well. The selectable loadout and the level select make it really easy to jump in anywhere in the game.
Although autosave in the beginning of each map hasn't been implemented yet... cough
vale oar
Yet
delicate sail
Possibly
hollow ivyBOT
🔄 DUSK is now in Early Access! Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/
delicate sail
Frankly. the bosses are generally a bit on the easy side, especially in Ep1.
Still enjoy them though.
vale oar
Tfw u still haven't got all level awards even in ep1😥
tawny briar
baby steps, baby steps
vale oar
😔
desert fractal
for a sec there I thought that was Postal 1
vale oar
hell no
desert fractal
im just sayin lol
gleaming berry
delicate sail
Damn, that's awesome 
mental mango
Looks like the death animations from the batman games
delicate sail
If Tim Burton did the Batman Games' art direction
vale oar
We're gonna flip u upside down, they said...
tawny briar
wait but how
vale oar
¯_(ツ)_/¯
shut mesa
I thought it was postal 1 aswell lol
misty mango
gr8 secret b8 m8
crimson folio
R8 8/8
tawny briar
e1m4 is weird the level changes
pastel swan
Man letting go of DUsk is hard but same goes for strafe haha xD
Both are so addicting and feels like being back in the good old days xD
crimson folio
Man for me Strafe and Dusk felt like deja vús~
pastel swan
I mean ofc one is rogue lite and the other is a "normal" game
But still both games offer nostalgia in spades!
crimson folio
only thing in strafe is bhop, gore and speed
shut mesa
strafe offered 0 nostalgia for me
crimson folio
ye
shut mesa
it just felt like a run of the mill rogue lite with retro graphics
pastel swan
It did for me but probably more quake 2 ish than actually the old old school stuff
Strafe is more of a run and gun quake 2 ish game, but still good, and for me the sounds and atmosphere is good, cause it does sometimes creep you out
But thank god we are all different when it comes to games 😄
crimson folio
what sold the game: -"You paint these levels red and its persistent gore"
pastel swan
I love Dusk just as much that's for sure
crisp lion
Mister-Anchois made and at most impressive video
@thorn trout you must be so proud (yes this is a SW Prequel shitpost line)
crimson folio
but its cute those green buddies
vale oar
Episode 3 when?
shut mesa
tomorrow
vale oar
🤔
vague egret
sometime between now and the heat death of the universe
sly path
Sometime between now and David making Fingerbones 2: More Fingerbones.
crisp lion
She tells She said, "Do you love me?" I tell her, "Only partly"
I only love my DUSK and my momma, I'm sorry
mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
new bloods secret e3 plans
uncut pilot
I'll be honest.
I kind of hope you guys port Dusk to PS4 just so I can watch DSP fail at the game in a This Is How You DON'T Play video.
shut mesa
waooooow
uncut pilot
Dood!
uncut pilot
"Stream chat. Tell me where the key is. I'm waiting!"
shut mesa
he has the most grating fake laugh
uncut pilot
That is not photoshopped.
That laugh isn't fake. That's actually how he laughs IRL.
shut mesa
i mean every time he fucks up and goes "I couldnt do anything the game's bugged"
he does the nervous fake laughter
uncut pilot
His real laugh, when he thinks he's funny, is just as obnoxious.
fair mirage
AH AH AH AH AH
rare musk
DSP's just bland these days, way less memorable fuckups and just general mediocrity
So all that's left is his obnoxiousness
uncut pilot
Nah, he keeps fucking up.
delicate sail
Actually, it's been in EA since 11 Jan
viral gate
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK HERESY TO THE MIGHTY SHILL
crisp lion
damn you!
delicate sail
"Get em outta here!" 😉
crisp lion
(screams Dave in Angrish de la Captain Kirk)
vale oar
damn you shill
vale oar
Are you?
crisp lion
i'm more hyped for E3M2 more tbh
crisp lion
shut up
opal plover
E3M4 looks super interesting
vale oar
where the hell did you see e3m4 lmao?
crisp lion
#meme-review or #gami_g viscont
vale oar
HEY
opal plover
It might or might not be a flesh level
Not sure though
Anyway E3M1 looks like it has a nice combat section
vale oar
wellokay
opal plover
Looked like some sort of prison\torture chambers
vale oar
E3M2 is also great yeah- i LOVE contrasts xD
opal plover
E3M2 combat is😩 👌
vale oar
FLYING DUUUDESS
I only hope they will do something more interesting than just goddamn fireball puke
vale oar
yeah
But I THINK....
They are
The dudes were not even animated properly
sooooo
¯_(ツ)_/¯
jade root
Secret Ep3 enemy leak
vale oar
Fuck Jab
jade root
Making the game for babies now
Since that's how all of you act
When you give us bad feedback
vale oar
We don't give U bad feedback okay?
vale oar
Open ur eyez and look at the reviews lmao