dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[crimson folio]

Cranberry shit

[gleaming berry]

What's the issue here today? Lol

[prisma ivy]

Nothing

[crisp lion]

we appreciating you b0s

[shut mesa]

fill it to the brim like a gentleman

[crimson folio]

is dave jesus christ?

Out of vitamins

[vague egret]

no issue. people like you for some reason

beats me

[prisma ivy]

Same

[gleaming berry]

Oh some guy wondering why DUSK isn't done yet?

[shut mesa]

people
i would not like to be included in this "people" group

[crisp lion]

@vale oar said "NB is the company that actually gives a shit about customers"

[shut mesa]

how do i opt out

[crimson folio]

Alt f4

[gleaming berry]

Because we don't rush and we don't stress and we make that Good Shit tm

[crisp lion]

then I said "I mean El Oshcuro is proof of that"

[vale oar]

Trolling Dave is so much fun...UNTIL HE CANCELS DUSK

[molten peak]

[shut mesa]

handjobs for all

[crisp lion]

@cursive osprey

[gleaming berry]

And we eat dank steaks

[vague egret]

[prisma ivy]

Dusk is already cancelled dude

[vale oar]

OH FUCK

[crisp lion]

shit I meant #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk lol

[vale oar]

This is VISCERA

[crisp lion]

too small tbh

[molten peak]

noice filet mingon

[crimson folio]

Midget steak

[prisma ivy]

#242365589887254528

[shut mesa]

minge fillet

[vague egret]

i feel like a fuckin cheapskate with the frozen pizza in the oven

[faint stirrup]

damn

[prisma ivy]

Dont worry Lain that's my dinner tonight too

[shut mesa]

i ate 2 pieces of bread w/ salt on top

skrr

[crisp lion]

bruh

[molten peak]

I just had a boring old chicken sandwich wiff brocolli and potates

[vale oar]

I ate a bottle of jalapeno Tabasco sauce

And now...

[shut mesa]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits 😡

[vale oar]

IM SICK

[crimson folio]

Saving up for that aa title 3h

Fuck mobile jesus

[vale oar]

@shut mesa 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

[crimson folio]

At least my tablet knows that phrase by now

[vague egret]

[vale oar]

oops

[crisp lion]

RIP Viscont23

[vague egret]

👀

[vale oar]

@crisp lion no u

😄

[crisp lion]

dusk wiki master btfo'd

[molten peak]

Mobile Jesus, He's always watching, from my dashboard

[crimson folio]

Ye

Dusk is a great half life mod

[vale oar]

Ep3 is just like Xen, but red

[crimson folio]

Lol

[prisma ivy]

Shh dont spoil it

[vale oar]

Sorry

[shut mesa]

there be aliens

[faint stirrup]

Dusk is a dark souls mod

[molten peak]

Final Boss is a psychic baby with Dave's face

[crimson folio]

Good news is can tbe worse than xen

[lusty willow]

you spoiled it! you spoiled it!

[molten peak]

Dusk is the Dark Souls of Half-Life mods

[vale oar]

Oshilanth

Hmmm

[crimson folio]

Oh shit

[crisp lion]

but Dusk was cancelled tho

[vale oar]

might be a good idea....

[vague egret]

any of you nerds working on the DUSK-life mod yet? someone did it for duuk

[vale oar]

You wanted it - you got it

[crisp lion]

still waiting on the final product so I can make Crack-DUSK

[molten peak]

Imagine the City 17 intro with the cult leader's voice replacing Breen's dialogue

[vague egret]

i regret nothing

[crimson folio]

Can u marry mama in dusk life?

[crisp lion]

oh god that game

[crimson folio]

@gleaming berry just expressed my opinion about game dev. i thought it was possible to complete 3rd episode in 2-3 months and that's all))

[vale oar]

RUN

[crisp lion]

#gami_g

when someone awakens Oshry

https://media1.tenor.com/images/4e0a01d8fc8faef1aa1cbfbc3877426a/tenor.gif?itemid=5319722

[vale oar]

Rome was not built in a day ☝

[shut mesa]

lol how do u know u weren't there

[faint stirrup]

DUSK-life is a mod for losers, DUSK-HDTF is the shit.

[vale oar]

Duskcraft would do even better

[molten peak]

Ride to Dusk: Retribution

[crisp lion]

Age of Duskpires

[gleaming berry]

I'll address this after dinner

[crimson folio]

@crimson folio quality takes time, u may build something to its almost finish just to see that this is not the right thing and then start again

[gleaming berry]

REMIND ME!

[vale oar]

@gleaming berry A REMINDER

[faint stirrup]

Can I marry big john

[molten peak]

You heard it here, folks

[crisp lion]

two Els typing?

what is this?

[molten peak]

Express permission to freely ping El Oshcuro

[crisp lion]

A crossover episode?

[faint stirrup]

What dating sim is it without that

[vale oar]

@crisp lion QUADRUPLE THE TROUBLE

[vague egret]

[molten peak]

Ahhh, I still remember the time someone tried to ping me and accidently got Dave instead

[vale oar]

Poor boy

He got his ass wiped out

[crimson folio]

@crimson folio got it. anyway i have the possibility to kill dave (big john) in 2nd episode as many time as i want to

[vale oar]

Think John

[crisp lion]

can't wait till we get the console

spam a million Big Johns everywhere

[vale oar]

Which one? a PS4? 😄

[crisp lion]

console command

😡

[vale oar]

😄

Console Command is a nice level name yaknow

[molten peak]

I imagine a level called that would be like a secret joke level.

Where random commands fuck with your gameplay

[vale oar]

Ep3 secret level revealed.

[faint stirrup]

Nah, dusk is a very serious game

Dark souls isn't funny

So dusk shouldn't be either

[vale oar]

what about dusk souls then

[crisp lion]

just play DUSKMARE difficulty

[vale oar]

meh

[half cape]

Eh, DUSK is pretty over the top and cheesy, whereas DS isn't.

[vale oar]

There is no rolling yet

Tastes differ dude

I like DS as well

[vale oar]

Okay dudes

I'm out

laters

[crisp lion]

seeya

[vale oar]

[flat juniper]

You know what time it is!

[crisp lion]

mood rn

it really do be like that

isn't there some type of GTA SA reference in DUSK?

[jaunty meteor]

I wouldn't call Dusk "cheesy", it's more in-your-face with its inspirations than its progenitors but it doesn't really show in casual gameplay for the most part

The cheesiest thing about Dusk is probably the faux-DOS startup :p

[cerulean sun]

DORSK

[crisp lion]

Is it just me or would the Old Menu theme make a great game ending/credits song, or at the least a better ending theme than the current episode ending theme?

[pearl imp]

Boy oh boy cowgirls are spooky

[crimson folio]

Dask

[viral gate]

DooK

[atomic egret]

doosk

[vale oar]

MUSK

[crimson folio]

düüsk

[dull remnant]

poosk

[crimson folio]

Kusk

[steady aurora]

duks

[balmy cipher]

Skud

[radiant venture]

Wtf is going on here

[steady aurora]

welcome to New Blood my good friend

[crimson folio]

dösk

kuds

[radiant venture]

Dåsk

[crimson folio]

there u go

[sacred robin]

I didn't know Mr.Johnus was a fan of Shoe0nHead

[proper spade]

What are all of the planned features for dusk?

I think I heard about steam workshop support for custom maps

[vale oar]

3 singleplayer epsiodes+3 endless maps+multiplayer v1.0+modding tools+ coop (post launch)

[proper spade]

Thanks

[mild ginkgo]

modding tools does mean custom maps as well

[vale oar]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

just to answer specifically waht you asked

and we are going to look at workshop as a distribution method for that

[proper spade]

Are there plans to flesh out endless more? Or offer different modifiers to it?

[graceful wing]

maybe?

stay tuned

[vale oar]

Also, episode 4 MAYBE, if the game does well😊

[mild ginkgo]

at the very least steam leaderboards will be added for endless

as for additional gameplay elements, i think thats undetermined as of yet, as not all the gameplay elements of dusk are complete yet :P

[proper spade]

I ask because dusk, amid evil, and ion maiden have endless modes so I think it should try to distinguish itself

[jade root]

i would say its a safe bet to say the new power ups from ep 3 will be included at some point

[proper spade]

Not to imply they're all the same game

[vale oar]

Oh

[graceful wing]

it's just way too early to say at this point

[jade root]

plus with modding support

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, after having played all three of those endless modes, they ARE all different, but definitely they all need something

[jade root]

people could do some cool shit with it

[mild ginkgo]

the dusk one has really imbalanced scoring in a way, AE is too easy atm, and IM has mechanics that you can entirely ignore

[jade root]

everything is subject to change™

[mild ginkgo]

but also all 3 arent done, so im hopeful theyll all get there!

[jade root]

out of curiosity, how would you distinguish it?

[proper spade]

I think different modes would help

Like, when you beat superhot you get a lot of modifiers

[vale oar]

Expecting Duskcane Dimensions mod for Dusk, cause the one for Quake is so fucking great

[proper spade]

My favorite endless mode mod is reelism for doom

[crimson folio]

i hope for doosk

[proper spade]

So maybe an endless variant with some random elements

[mild ginkgo]

reelism is great

[proper spade]

Is the third map for endless bigger than the others?

[crimson folio]

damnit jab

[vale oar]

rofl

you ruined evrthng

[mild ginkgo]

third map hasnt been made yet

[proper spade]

Ah

[vale oar]

I guess it is kinda cathedral that has been shown on the one of the screenshots

[mild ginkgo]

i wouldnt be surprised if it was the final dusk map made before release

[graceful wing]

right now we just want ep3 itself done

endless and other things come after

[proper spade]

If co-op is planned, can we expect co-op endless?

[graceful wing]

possibly

[jade root]

co-op is planned

so maybe

[vale oar]

Cancellation memes incoming

[graceful wing]

can't really promise anything yet

[proper spade]

Will custom maps and mods be able to be made for endless?

[mild ginkgo]

most likely

[dull remnant]

This is fantastic. I didn't know we'd have mod support and custom maps. 👌

[jade root]

you got @prisma halo to thank for that

[vale oar]

@prisma halo THANKS

🙏

[graceful wing]

[jaunty meteor]

Honestly having a huge open arena endless map would be great

Imagine the erebus reactor experience, but as an endless map

[vale oar]

yeah erebus is fine

I guess E3m3 is a bit similar in terms of open space and stuff

so that would be great too

From Steam forums:D

[jade root]

thats one of the least offensive things ive seen on there

[vale oar]

😄

btw there is a custom CS map named De_Dusk

[proper spade]

Oh, also I think I noticed a bit of e1m4 that was lifted from doom. Can one of the devs confirm that?

[vale oar]

It's E1m3 iirc

[proper spade]

Maybe

[vale oar]

yeah that purple room

[proper spade]

I don't remember the color. The one where you're in a square room and there's a bit in 3 of the walls where projectiles are fired at you

And then there's 2 exits in front of you that merge

[vale oar]

Yes

That is some Doom homage

E1M2: Nuclear plant iirc

[proper spade]

For people who don't use the alt click zoom button, can we get an option for left and right lock to fire akimbo weapons independently?

[jade root]

prolly not

[graceful wing]

not gonna make it in officially. you're free to mod it in though 👌

[jade root]

i think it would require a rewrite on how the weapons work

and theres no reason for them to do that

[proper spade]

It's easy to forget that small =/= easy

[proper spade]

I feel like an idiot but

I can't figure out the climbing thing

I got the prompt that said us walk to climb

I saw the words "turn and leap" on the ceiling

oh

the walk key

not walk at a wall

The prompt should be "(key bound to 'walk') to climb"

so I'm playing episode 2

e1m2

and there's this text on the wall written in blood that says "don't enter the ruins"

so I know that means that I have to go in

but like

why doesn't my player character just leave?

[toxic wadi]

🤔

[proper spade]

Unless I missed something he has no motivation to kill every eldritch abomination

he's escaped the farm town run by the cult

what's keeping him going?

[toxic wadi]

he is really cool, that's what 👍

[proper spade]

shit u right

[crisp lion]

@proper spade The Daves confirmed he's going after the cult leader

[proper spade]

no he's cool

[steady aurora]

and little did we know the cult leader has an enemy too

[dull remnant]

Wouldn't be much of a game in the PC just said "eh, fuck it. I think I'll just go home now".

But me....I would have given up at the first sight of a Wendigo. Let's be honest here. What cult?

[proper spade]

Can I mute this guy somehow? I bought the game.

[prisma halo]

shillbot is eternal

[rare musk]

shillboi is eternal

[prisma halo]

holy shit

[rare musk]

wew

[proper spade]

woah

[prisma halo]

what the fuck squiddy

[proper spade]

wait

[prisma halo]

HIVEMIND

[proper spade]

The server was the real cult all along

[rare musk]

fukken

copying me before I even say it

[proper spade]

shillbot is the leader

[rare musk]

YOU'RE BLOWING OUR COVER

[dull remnant]

We've got proof, boys

[proper spade]

so

uhh

the serum of blistering heat

the syringe of excessive temperature

one may describe it as

SUPER

HOT

so did you guys have to like get permission to use that

[crisp lion]

ALL HAIL THE GREAT THRESHER

[proper spade]

wait what

the level just uhh

thresher?

MORE LIKE ESCHER

[crisp lion]

Stop Him!

Heretic!

[proper spade]

oh wait

[dull remnant]

Unbeliever

[proper spade]

the game ended up calling it escher

[crisp lion]

Into The Thresher = E2M3

Escher Labs = E2M5

[proper spade]

I'm going to go to bed

[crisp lion]

nite

[proper spade]

but so far episode 2 is fantastic

[crisp lion]

wait til episode 3 comes out

[proper spade]

I know what THAT'S like

LIKE if u a real gamer

[steady aurora]

Condemned

[dull remnant]

Sacrifice

[crisp lion]

Flank Him

[steady aurora]

Bork

new dog sound confirmed

[crisp lion]

PupperCubeTM

[steady aurora]

Do the Wendigos even make any noises?

[viral gate]

yep

[dull remnant]

Yea, they breathe like fucking weirdos. I hate it. Makes my neck tingle lol

[steady aurora]

Shiiit, never noticed

[crisp lion]

aight

[viral gate]

I have to admit that I've been spooked by a Wendigo more then once

[crisp lion]

whose been talkin shit bout the wendigo-bois

[viral gate]

[steady aurora]

I've been spooked by those damn rats

[crisp lion]

they flex better than you, and they be flexin all year long

You know they had to spook it to em

[steady aurora]

at the end of Dig, that fake door just before the exit, just three rats come scurrying out going squueeeee

[crisp lion]

spooked by rats

WHEW LAD

[steady aurora]

right? But I'm not really spooked by Wendigos, cause like I kinda expect them to show up.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST

those damn rocket launcher Abram tank Cowgirl things

[dull remnant]

Bro, I was SS'ing rats by the time I was leaving that place. Fuck that bs

[crisp lion]

David needs to make one of the weapons deal bonus DMG against here

even the Barons had Rocket Launchers, and the Shamblers Thunderbolts as their arch nemesis

[dull remnant]

She's not too bad. Just gotta keep hup hupping

[crisp lion]

HUP

[steady aurora]

Yeah I don't mind the large health pool, adds challenge

seriously though a Cowgirl is like

TARGET SPOTTED

FIRE

[crisp lion]

OOF

AHURL, BIG JAHN

[steady aurora]

can't wait to deal with underwater enemies and pupper coobs

specially that sexy af level design

[dull remnant]

Both these games updates are gonna be rad.

[crisp lion]

that PAX demo of Amid Evil really makes me think

🤔
but I digress

[steady aurora]

think about what?

[mild ginkgo]

makes you think what

[crisp lion]

inb4 >> #amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

[mild ginkgo]

nah im here

and asking

you CAN go there

but i wont make you

[crisp lion]

it made me go from "nah, i'll pass, heretic kinda sucks" to "hmmm, I might get it when it's finished"

[mild ginkgo]

👌

my favorite part of the stream is how i got called out twice and now have more work to do

[dull remnant]

Dude, you don't have AE yet?

[mild ginkgo]

😅

[crisp lion]

wait

[mild ginkgo]

i was "Scott"

[crisp lion]

what do you even do 500?

[steady aurora]

I'm just glad AE is here to help pass the time for Dusk chapter 3

[mild ginkgo]

I do duskworld, and a QA lead

https://newblood.info/about-us

Im scott on there

lol

[crisp lion]

gotcha

[mild ginkgo]

memes

[steady aurora]

so you're the notorious scott who knows himself around The Bright Pass

[mild ginkgo]

lmao

i was coaching dave how to beat the level the night before for practice

but he forgot anyways

:D

[steady aurora]

this is great

[crisp lion]

lol

[steady aurora]

👌

[dull remnant]

"silver key...sil.ver..key.."

[mild ginkgo]

my favorite was e3m2

where we told him not to open the red door

and he did it anyways

to a spot where its just completely missing walls

Also all the t-posing flying dudes

[steady aurora]

yeah, that was pretty amusing

[mild ginkgo]

and the boss room

which he wasnt going to show

but did

[steady aurora]

and he went in the hallway in E3M3

[mild ginkgo]

yeah thats no big, because its just the tposing dudes behind it

we werent going to spoil what was down the well

but too late now :P

its fine

theres still PLENTY of surprises in ep3

[steady aurora]

sooo that wasn't some skit? They legitimately did not want us to see what was with the well?

[mild ginkgo]

also dave failed to demonstrate how deadly the pupper cubes are

they can knock you up and back, and juggle you around, hitting you multiple times before you hit the ground

[dull remnant]

mean puppers

[steady aurora]

Yes! I love the knockback element

[mild ginkgo]

yeah that wasnt really staged lol

we were gonna cut off e3m2 right when you get to the snow

so you didnt see the tposing guys

and cut off e3m3 right when the well opened

[steady aurora]

wowza really hiding stuff. I suppose he went the correct length on e3m1?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah e3m1 was mostly perfect

[steady aurora]

well, there is still a lot to the imagination and Dave's few pictures on twitter

[mild ginkgo]

yeah and you havent seen e3m4-9 yet lol

[steady aurora]

I'm actually most fascinated in the groggy dungeon area with the green shrooms and jail rooms with bones

just loved the ambience of it

[mild ginkgo]

you THINK thats what youll be most interested in

i can promise you, its not :D

[steady aurora]

well currently from pictures, I'm well aware my ass is going to be turned inside out

[mild ginkgo]

there was one really good comment i saw on one of the screenshots of e3

thats is a hilarious explanation of something

they just didnt realize it

[steady aurora]

oho

[mild ginkgo]

they could learn a lot from themselves

if they only knew

[steady aurora]

making me want to go treasure hunting through Dave's twitter, but alas I'll hold back

[mild ginkgo]

😉

[steady aurora]

do you do QA for both Dusk and AE?

[mild ginkgo]

yessir

all of NB's games

part of the job

[steady aurora]

oh gotcha, rad

[mild ginkgo]

AE has been interesting to test

seeing stuff early then seeing it later

[steady aurora]

so seeing the growth of the fantasy like setting?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah and some of the maps grew and evolved

also it used to have fall damage

lmao

[steady aurora]

is e4e1 getting longer? Could be mistaken of length cause of the cheats but just seemed short?

And fall damage? Woah

[mild ginkgo]

e4m1 is a really nice length, and plays very well

dave cheats didnt do any favors

that level is legit a blast

[steady aurora]

okay cool! The cheats really removed the encounters of enemies and how it would play out

[mild ginkgo]

yeah definitely

e4m2 as well

you sort of saw that levels gimmick, but not the whole thing

[steady aurora]

yeah the water stuff

[mild ginkgo]

yep

its really neat in game

[steady aurora]

well I can't wait, these games are bullet proof af

[mild ginkgo]

ahaha we'll see

i hope so

[steady aurora]

well so far, they're holding up really well on steam reviews

[mild ginkgo]

amen to that

those devs worked very hard to earn that

[steady aurora]

mhm, and the level design and overall brings good memories back

[dull remnant]

I love AE level design

[mild ginkgo]

just wait for the later stuff

theres one level that might be up there for best level ever

[dull remnant]

[steady aurora]

wow! It seems like later levels are already blocked out?

[cerulean sun]

Ae in the dusk channel 👀

[mild ginkgo]

well, in fairness, the levels were not all built in order

like i played e4m2 before e1m2 iirc

[dull remnant]

Are we being naughty @cerulean sun ?

[steady aurora]

wowza

[mild ginkgo]

a little, the convo evolved from dusk

[cerulean sun]

I dont care tbh

[steady aurora]

I have a picture of a bunch of enemies from Amid Evil that was posted on Indefatigable's twitter and have tried to determine what episode they might be in

[mild ginkgo]

post it in #401604408984600577

[steady aurora]

okay

[cerulean sun]

Imo i disagreed with a few mod rules when i was trial mod and was going to ask of i could not be one

[mild ginkgo]

anyways, dttd is right, we'll move

[cerulean sun]

But actually some of those rules are lifted now

I can see how a conversation about video games made by a company on their discord can kinda mesh in to one

[flint python]

Episode 3 out yet? Just checking in lole

[crisp lion]

nope]

[flint python]

Alright then, looking forward to it

[vale oar]

Episode 3 will never see the light of the day.

[graceful wing]

correct

[vale oar]

The Gabe's Curse

[graceful wing]

xbox one exclusive

[vale oar]

what about Switch then?

[graceful wing]

does it say xbox on it? no?

then no

[vale oar]

😦

[graceful wing]

we've got avain man 4 for the switch though

[vale oar]

Yeeii

good news

finally

Lain Man 6, Jab Man 8 and 500 Man 500 coming SOON™

[jade root]

DONT TALK ABOUT 500 MAN 500

SECRET PROJECT YOU FUCK

[atomic egret]

hey jab

how's that episode 3 development coming along

featuring help from hank

btw @thorn trout how'd it feel to get fired from your own game

[thorn trout]

Feelsbadman

[crimson folio]

Dang it. You really got fired?!

[atomic egret]

yeah dude moved from dev to qa

[viral gate]

Be interesting to see which direction Dusk goes now

[crimson folio]

Well, I hope Episode 3 will at least go where they intend it to go.

[viral gate]

Wendigos are just Kleers now

[crimson folio]

Except that they are invisible until you shoot them.

Again, I hope Episode 3 will go where they want it to go. I'd like to see the final level of that episode.

[crisp lion]

place your bets

$10 AUD on the Cult Leader as the Final Boss

[crimson folio]

I am thinking a massive beast of some sort.

[crisp lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMRll73oB9M

[crimson folio]

Now that David is gone, how will he do now?

[jade root]

He's just gonna lie down

And wait for it all to end

Don't worry

Me and Hank will do a good job with it

Gonna retcon everything tho

And make it into Sam 4

[atomic egret]

damjan will be most pleased

now people will stop asking him for sam 4

[crimson folio]

Even you know about Serious Sam 4? Dang. I've been waiting for it for 4 years now. SERIOUS DUSK

[proper spade]

Did david actually get fired or is that japes

[graceful wing]

110% fired

rip @thorn trout

[crisp lion]

nah it's just shitposting

really that's all this discord is

[rare musk]

shitposting?

[crisp lion]

shitposting, memes, and oshry

[umbral lava]

Besides the classics, are there any other games like Dusk out their that successfully accomplish their goal of emulating that old AS style?

[rare musk]

In THIS disc-

oh

you beat me too it

[crisp lion]

but Dusk was cancelled

how could it be a classic?

🤔

[umbral lava]

lmao

[rare musk]

honestly there's not a whole lot, most tried to modernize it in one way or another, or just failed horribly

Most of the people really interested in making more stuff for those sorts of games kind of just have, literally

Hence the ridiculous abundance of doom and quake mods and maps

[umbral lava]

Yeah.

Gotta say, while it's dead, I really did love Toxikk as I said in gaming.

Reflex Arena looks cool, but I'm not entirely sold on it.

The dueling aspect is just a little, well, eh.

[rare musk]

Oh, yeah, there's been one or two in terms of multiplayer

just not terribly successful

[umbral lava]

Honestly, I really want to see something like Half-Life come out again, just that feeling mixed with the gameplay to really sell the mood.

[dull remnant]

Reflex is only duel or racing. I, rather sadly, got a refund

[umbral lava]

Ah, that's a shame, looked really fun.

[dull remnant]

They have other modes implemented, the community just doesn't play them. That and there were only 4 players in my region. Meaning I'd be dueling the same people every time.

[umbral lava]

Ouch, that hurts.

[dull remnant]

If you were a fan of Descent back in the day, you need to check out Overload. It is certainly modernized, but it is very much Descent. Made by the guys who made Descent. Not some cheap knock off

[umbral lava]

Ah, yeah, that's right.

I heard about that, someone was talking about how they were super excited for Overload, Dusk, and Strafe.

Gonna have to check it out.

[dull remnant]

Seems people were disappointed with Strafe. The impression I got while shopping around (before I got AE and Dusk) was that Dusk succeeded where Strafe most certainly failed. So I didn't bother 😛

[faint stirrup]

Strafe has better gore

[tired whale]

Strafe's a bit of, how do I put it

it's a bit of a piece of shit

[dull remnant]

lolol

[crisp lion]

STRAFE failed that hard as a "throw back FPS" they now coin it as a fucking "throwback rogue-like"

fucking LOL

[faint stirrup]

well yea in a less kind way

[umbral lava]

Yeah, I've heard a lot of bad things about Strafe.

At first I was intrigued because, "Hey, this kind of looks like Half-Life." before reading the reviews and deciding it wasn't worth it.

[dull remnant]

I noticed the store page makes no mention of 90's shooters anymore lol

[faint stirrup]

It's a decent rogue like, it's not your old school fps but what's the problem other than that, weapon variety? I can't argue with that

[tired whale]

It doesn't work for shit? lol

[crisp lion]

when Strafe is ever 5 bucks (which I doubt since the devs will too busy being hipsters) then it will be worth it

[vague egret]

Cool dusk discussion

[crisp lion]

either that or getting it

[dull remnant]

Ya, they may have been met with a more open audience had they not marketed as such a throwback

[crisp lion]

Somehow from Humble Bundle

[frozen hull]

Shit i still got a pair of Strafe promo sunglasses

[faint stirrup]

5 bucks, really?

[dull remnant]

It started from dusk 😛

[frozen hull]

was a shame it was a disappointment

[crisp lion]

but I digress

[dull remnant]

@vague egret "Seems people were disappointed with Strafe. The impression I got while shopping around (before I got AE and Dusk) was that Dusk succeeded where Strafe most certainly failed. So I didn't bother"

[crisp lion]

#gami_g

[dull remnant]

^^

[umbral lava]

You know, I'd love to see the team behind Dusk do something more in the vain of Half-Life or Doom 2016 sometime in the future.

Actually, I'd really love to see them do something in the vain of Half-Life.

[dull remnant]

Lets let them finish AE and Doosk 😛

[umbral lava]

Of course, but a man can dream.

[frozen hull]

popped in initially to ask if the Dusk soundtrack could be found in the game files somewhere I didn't think to look, or if there was a place to buy/download

[dull remnant]

New Blood is definitely proving to be a reliable pub though

Looking forward to their future

[frozen hull]

just bought it from NB at PAX east. glad to hand em cash for a game and not give Gaben more money that isnt being used to make half life 3

[crisp lion]

but I digress

[umbral lava]

Yes, perhaps this should be moved to #gami_g?

[frozen hull]

does anyone know about the soundtrack though? Gamefiles or elsewhere for purchase?

[dull remnant]

I don't think we'll be able to purchase until full release

[graceful wing]

available on steam at launch for $10

[faint stirrup]

Dusk's ost is going to be available for purchase when the game is out

[crisp lion]

you could rip the music if you were desperate

[faint stirrup]

^^ avain

[balmy cipher]

Hype for music

[dull remnant]

Andrew has a bit of it on his YouTube's as well

[balmy cipher]

Gonna buy that OST so fast

[frozen hull]

there were games where it was just in a directory and easy as click and drag, but was didn't know if Dusk was one of em

[dull remnant]

And his other work is on Spotify 😉

[frozen hull]

dug through everything pretty thoroughly

[crisp lion]

but just wait till it's available for $10 or something, unless you want a whole unreleased + hidden music

[frozen hull]

probably gonna do that

[crisp lion]

there's a bunch of alpha/beta (at least music) ik of, Dusk_l1 and MenuMusic are from the old pre alpha demos

I know an old version of the "before demonic horse experiment" synth beat is in there somewhere

[frozen hull]

oooh

nice

I looked for it in goodies and ended up playing the endless mode alpha on 1996 graphics. loved it more than expected

[crisp lion]

someones are divided up, for example that song that plays before fighting the wendigos in the ruins is made up of low_tone_01 and wnedigo_ambientspace

(btw I mean E2M2 ruins, not The Dig)

[frozen hull]

I somehow missed them on The Dig

[crisp lion]

some songs aren't even classified as they actually are, aforementioned pre-horse beat is SynthBeatLoop

Unused_action_loop and Unused_amb_loop are the episode end, and level complete themes respectively

but not gonna go too deep into em, or how to get em (since the game is technically unreleased, and most importantly leaking materials is banned on the discord)

[prisma halo]

you can get them by doing the thing that you have to do to get them

[frozen hull]

[vale oar]

@jade root 500 Man 500 is no longer a secret project.

Your conspiracy has failed

[proper spade]

Is the flip button just there to tease players who instinctively press r?

[eternal carbon]

nah its just a lil melee button, its actually got legitimate uses cause you can hit stuff with it

i like to break wood planks with it :)

[graceful wing]

The sickles will also reflect stuff

[pearl imp]

I keep forgetting the flip acts as melee.
I have switched to sickles for so many vents

[proper spade]

The cult leader has terrible taste in pets

[shut mesa]

its america there's not that many exotic pets to choose from alright

[balmy cipher]

Idk the crock seemed pretty legit to me

[vale oar]

The cult leader is a fan of cube-dogs

[crimson folio]

the dusk soundtrack will be released with the CE version, right?

[rare musk]

yes

[crimson folio]

whats with the AE soundtrack btw

however i m just looking forward of having dusk ryhtmns in quake AD :S

[rare musk]

what's with?

I'm pretty sure it'll be sold too, the game needs to be finished first, though

[crimson folio]

yeah that what was with, if its sold seperatley or is it part of a trust pre order EA bonus stuff thingy

but we will find out

[rare musk]

Pretty sure it was mentioned it would be sold seperately

[crimson folio]

allrighty

[vale oar]

No one's gonna sell those awful sounds from Hell

[echo epoch]

Reminder to the lurkers to look in your install folder

[vale oar]

huh?

[crimson folio]

For what?

[vale oar]

Epsiode 3 is leaked lol

[dull remnant]

Dude. @echo epoch , ty 😉

I've never opened the install folder.

[echo epoch]

Go check @crimson folio

[shut mesa]

oh

whats this

[shut mesa]

oh these wallpapers are lit

i never actually even checked the installation folder

[echo epoch]

Play the game

Pinning yourself is in bad taste

[shut mesa]

the pregame?

[vale oar]

prepreprepreprepre-game

[shut mesa]

i like how the low-res option turns leathernecks into 20 pixels

[echo epoch]

No, Pit

Play Pit

[shut mesa]

less pixels

[vale oar]

Dick-like enemies make all the sense

[knotty star]

Oh hey @eternal carbon your speedrun times of Dusk are super impressive

[eternal carbon]

thanks my dude :o)

i paid a good price of my wrist for those times

[knotty star]

Yeah no kidding lmao

Is there much more optimization you can do on some of those? Or I guess just keep running and you'll find out

[eternal carbon]

i mean new strats can always be found but other than that its just keep running until i get that optimal run of everything im looking for

i think im at the end of my grind though because i can no longer mash space in the crouched areas like i used to, and i always lose speed to it

i think thats something that could maybe use some accessability tweaking, as its very hard to keep up top speed in crouched areas and really hurts the wrist attempting the jumps you need for it

[dull remnant]

You miss all the good songs speedrunning 😛

Just watched DraQu's ep 1 speedrun. How do you guys do it lol. So much memorization

[cerulean sun]

Draqus is like 3rd im pretty sure

And its not that bad to memeorize

[crisp lion]

Black Phillip

Compare to: Imp, Doom (2016)

wut?

Black Phillips don't jump around like tards grabbing onto everything

[knotty star]

@eternal carbon Do you think the use of bhopping scripts would be an acceptable any% or 100% category? that way it's much less wear-and-tear

[proper spade]

I think that would fall under tool asist

[knotty star]

Good point, but not the TAS category I'd say

[eternal carbon]

yeah using any sort of external tool renders it TAS, such as programs that spam space constantly

[cerulean sun]

Bhopping is stupid easy in dusk why script

[eternal carbon]

i think they could use a small buffer between the time you have to land and jump again and not get slowed down, it doesnt really devalue the movement in anyway and just makes crouched segments more consistent and less hazard for strain injuring to hands

the entire conversation is about crouched bro lol scroll up

[cerulean sun]

Still easy

[eternal carbon]

its not fun mashing space like 10 times a second to stay max speed, especially after hundreds of attempts

[cerulean sun]

Bind jump to scroll or get more dexterity

[eternal carbon]

its just rsi-fest

[cerulean sun]

Being a tradional grip drummer has its perks

[eternal carbon]

also im sure id lose more time out of everything else that binding jump to scroll wheel gets me than what i'd gain in crouched segments

[mild ginkgo]

binding jump to scroll is for cowards

[eternal carbon]

if you dont scroll right you lose speed and its not even as effecient as buffering jumps with space

[cerulean sun]

Most levels that require croutching are boring anyway

[eternal carbon]

thats not even really an argument, having to strain wrist to quickly get through crouched areas is still a problem in my eyes

[cerulean sun]

Then dont run it

Simple

I dont play levels i dont like

Instead of bitching and trying to change the game just practice instead

Scirpts are for kids

[mild ginkgo]

guys i hate to disappoint you

[eternal carbon]

lol bro i don't think you seem to understand where i'm getting at, it's not about not liking a level, the levels are fine

[mild ginkgo]

but every e3 level is a crouching level

[cerulean sun]

Rip e3 being fun then

[eternal carbon]

how do you weigh in on this 500_pts, is this a valid complaint

[cerulean sun]

Your a speed runner m8 not everything is going to fun or awesome to do

[mild ginkgo]

i mean, i think that scripts are a little silly

[eternal carbon]

im not advocating for scripts

[mild ginkgo]

im not even sure what this is about

[cerulean sun]

You have to accept that some levels are just going to be trash to run

[mild ginkgo]

is this about the pain of doing the crouched stuff

because that does suck

[eternal carbon]

its incredibly hard to consistently stay top speed in crouched areas

to the point where i strain myself after maybe 50-100 attempts of these levels

[mild ginkgo]

im surprised we havent seen any wall clips developed to skip those sections

[cerulean sun]

Just going to have to deal with it they didnt create the game for speed running

[eternal carbon]

most of the movement is built around being accessible and i think it just makes sense that there should be more of a leniency to how much speed you lose from not jumping off the ground in time

ie in times were you are forced to not be able to buffer the jumps with space

like you normally do in uncrounched gameplay

[cerulean sun]

There is in bounds and out of bounds catagorys 500

[mild ginkgo]

yeah im well aware

but clipping isnt necessarily oob

[cerulean sun]

Depends where yeah but it can also be said that oob is anywhere not intentional

[eternal carbon]

i dont think clipping is a very consistent thing

[mild ginkgo]

thats fair

[eternal carbon]

i certainly have experienced it but cant replicate it

[mild ginkgo]

i cant tell you theres a SEMI usable method involving the roll you get from flips

but its still not really close to reliable enough

[cerulean sun]

Doesnt matter how reliable if it can be done it will be grinded untill

Your just going to have to wait for the run and clutch it

[mild ginkgo]

🏆

[cerulean sun]

Thats what speed running is all about and what seperates the men from the boys

Dusk devs should not catter to speedrunning at all

I mean we got some small features which is nice

But dont change the levels just because

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i dont think david built the game with speedrunning in mind as a main intent

[cerulean sun]

And he shouldn't

[mild ginkgo]

but its good that it was able to fit the bill

at least, in most places

if we get to see one GDQ or ESA run out of it

[cerulean sun]

There are some levels that are trashy to run but that happens in any speed game

[mild ginkgo]

ill be happy

[cerulean sun]

Im planning for gdq 2019

[mild ginkgo]

hell yeah

[cerulean sun]

also depends on a few things

But i plan on it

[mild ginkgo]

if ep3 is fun

or even speed viable

im kind of hoping there will be a way to single segment the whole game without menus

[cerulean sun]

Nice

That would rock

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

[cerulean sun]

Make it true single segment run

[mild ginkgo]

because like the best you can do right now is add up 3 episode times

[cerulean sun]

Like GE

[mild ginkgo]

so itd be a nice thing to see

[cerulean sun]

Yea agree

More my style coming from ge

[eternal carbon]

wait is the whole 3 episode timer thing not planned?

[mild ginkgo]

no idea lol

[eternal carbon]

i mean i guess i wouldnt be the hugest deal as long as people can prove they are playing all the episode in succession, just add the total timer together

[cerulean sun]

Dusk on scale of 1-10 in terms of speed running difficulty is like a 4

There isnt much to learn at all

Learning curve is very small

[sharp locust]

but what if you touch the door?

[cerulean sun]

Being a more simple game i dony see many breakthoughs happening

Like harrahs prop boost

Is likely one of the last innovations

[eternal carbon]

its not very hard to go mildly fast but using all the techniques in a row without failing including max speed crouch sections is fairly difficult

[cerulean sun]

I feel like anything truely game breaking will be patched too

[eternal carbon]

still awaiting crate strats breakthrough for oob somehow lol

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, i could see things like the climbing boost being fixed

[eternal carbon]

its only really got a spot in a few ILs

[cerulean sun]

If climb boost os fixed a few levels might need to be wiped

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, thankfully its timed now

[cerulean sun]

E1m2 uses it

[mild ginkgo]

e1m2?

e2 has the first climbing thing i thought

maybe im dumb

[eternal carbon]

hes talking about prop climbing

[mild ginkgo]

ohhh

[cerulean sun]

You can boost of any ladder

[eternal carbon]

or not

[mild ginkgo]

nah i mean the climbing thing specifically

[eternal carbon]

i might be misreading too lol

the ladder thing is wonky as hell

[mild ginkgo]

yeah the ladders tranfer your speed

[cerulean sun]

Ladders give the same effect

[summer otter]

follow your heart

[eternal carbon]

i hate that damned ladder at the end of e1m2

[mild ginkgo]

because you dont get grounded

so its bhop cap + jump speed

[cerulean sun]

I was messing with e1m2 i think i can get sub 25

[eternal carbon]

hitting the jumping off the ladder is the tricky part

i think it goes sub 25 with a good jump into the hatch at the end

ive never been able to keep max speed there

[cerulean sun]

You cant

[crisp lion]

I just read the channel tagline

😂

[eternal carbon]

idk if the pistol strats are viable in the beginning

[cerulean sun]

Its not

Looses time going off line

[eternal carbon]

i never thought they were but maybe the best pistol time could even out the current time with the time save from being max speed going down the hatch

[cerulean sun]

It doesnt

Tried it

Going off line looses more

[crisp lion]

He's in the machine

STOP HIM

[crisp lion]

RIP

@thorn trout You might have to put either grates in (and maybe turn it into a secret) or remove the invisible ceiling

how did I do someone will ask?

climing up the ladders, somehow getting on top of a random welder, then somehow climbing ontop of "the ribcage features"

[prisma halo]

did you have to go out of your way to do it?

if so, I'd say it should be kept for speedrunners

[prisma halo]

@umbral lava Dusk isn't made in UE4, Amid Evil is

[umbral lava]

Ah, I could swear it was done using UE4 as a base, probably just got confused.

[eternal carbon]

yeah just use trenchbroom, it'll eventually be supported for maps

[prisma halo]

It's made in Unity and it has a completely custom SDK on the way

As for maps, you use Quake mapping tools

[umbral lava]

Alright, sweet.

[prisma halo]

TrenchBroom being the current "officially supported" one

[umbral lava]

I'll have to check it out, thanks for the help.

Looks quite similar to J.A.C.K. and Hammer in function, I'm gonna have a good time with this.

[jade root]

You can use JACK too, I think

[prisma halo]

yep

The editor doesn't really matter, all that matters is the final format you compile your map to

[jade root]

.midi

[crude forge]

ah yes

gonna listen to some unity levels

[vale oar]

Final boss is revealed

[crimson folio]

Dope Fishry

[vale oar]

Dope Osh

[placid pebble]

this is a OLD SCHOOL FPS REFERENCE?!

[molten peak]

Some.

Body once told me a cult was gonna enroll me.

I ain't the sharpest sickle in the shed.

[pearl imp]

I was looking all kaput
With a meathook through my gut
And three chainsaw dudes with bags on their heads

[solar olive]

The dopefish was first introduced on commander keen. Ever since, once in a while it appears on other games as easter eggs.

[balmy cipher]

Well the Mages start coming and they don't stop coming

Fed magic potions so I hit the ground running

[vital heron]

I've only found one dopefish in DUSK.. Could there be more?

[thin sphinx]

there is one in ep2

i dont know where though

[vale oar]

yeah did not find it either

[slate edge]

When driving home one night I saw a road sign that said Duiske Abbey

No leathernecks here.

[vale oar]

[rancid dove]

https://youtu.be/a8w3bTFiVbE

[edgy crystal]

so uh

andrew hulshult is amazing

obligatory compliment

that is all

[dull remnant]

Agreed.

Wise choice

[woeful sonnet]

very

[winged otter]

completed ep2 on cero miedo...much better challenge,died a few times and i must play focused in this difficulty,i like it!

[pseudo hinge]

E2M6 + intruder mode is quite the experience.

[eternal carbon]

that huntin rifle they give you is plenty enough for that level lol, from a range is still the easiest way to complete this game

[opal plover]

Second Dopefis is somewhere between E2M2 and E2M5, won't say where though.

[crisp lion]

cheeky breeky

from the range easiest way

get out

you gotta pull down your pants, strap yourself and FEEL THE Gs

[vale oar]

E2M6 is by far the most difficult map if started either on Duskmare or Intruder Mode+CM

[crude forge]

isnt that... "THAT level"?

oh nvm im thinking of the one beforehand

[crisp lion]

DON'T

[crude forge]

oh THAT one

yeah i agree

i had a heluva time trying to find the damn exit

[crisp lion]

E2M6?

[crude forge]

yup

[crisp lion]

Whack

[crude forge]

indeed

need to lay off the superhot syringes

[crisp lion]

don't you mean

T H E S E R U M O F B L I S T E R I N G H E AT

[crude forge]

shingles

[crisp lion]

THE SYRINGE OF THE SUN

Teh Injection of Incredibly Hot Stuff

da superhot drug

[crude forge]

the nameless city looks dope so far

[crisp lion]

we haven't even seen beyond E3M3 yet

but the Duskbois have been sayin it's gonna be inception level mind blowing

[crude forge]

yeah

sweet

[molten peak]

Escher Labs but red

[faint stirrup]

Nah, it's avain man 4 concepts stolen

[viral gate]

Escher Labs without the mind fuckery

BOOM

[crisp lion]

that would be a nice thing to see actually

get on it mapbois

[crude forge]

half life 1 if the resonance cascade never happened

and everything went according to plan

[viral gate]

Blow up more casseroles!

[crude forge]

resonance casserole

[crisp lion]

That one guy ain't gonna forgive you for that debacle

[viral gate]

Meh he lame

[crude forge]

fuck that guy

[crisp lion]

what if the Resonance Cascade only happened because Gordon screwed with his casserole

[crude forge]

oh shit

[crisp lion]

talk about Devine Retribution

that's some sodom and gamorrah type shit

[crude forge]

the button under the desk in the lab entrance

[echo epoch]

Half-Life is ruined by not messing with the microwave casserole

Now I want a microwave in Escher

[molten peak]

Gotta delete all of Dusk and start again to get the microwaves right

[faint stirrup]

dusk is cancelled nothing is happening

[crisp lion]

Now nothing will stand in the way

Of AMID EVIL

[molten peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbgv587ooNM

[hardy spire]

Did this happen to anyone else?

[winged otter]

what antivirus are you using?

[hardy spire]

That's just the Windows 10 antivirus

[winged otter]

not happend for me,false positive i guess

[hardy spire]

Yeah. Not sure how to report it as such though

[winged otter]

alternative solution:buy a good antivirus such as NOD32 or Kaspersky

[dull remnant]

NOD32 is great

[fair mirage]

a good place to start would be here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/filesubmission

i can assure you it's a false positive; i don't think we would do something so stupid that would lose our good will with our customers :p

[crimson folio]

Any footage from PAX Dusk booth area

[vale oar]

@crimson folio There is one

https://clips.twitch.tv/NaiveFancySparrowFailFish

Press Continue Watching

[gleaming berry]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/519860/discussions/0/3211505894105842441/

CONVINCE HIM

[vale oar]

rofl

@gleaming berry IZI

[gleaming berry]

Lol

[fair mirage]

the unfortunate downside to modding is i can't meme on threads like these anymore :(

[crimson folio]

i m so tempted to troll that guy with never seen before fuckery but i m a good mentally challanged bear so i wont....

[gleaming berry]

Y'all ain't helping lol

[vale oar]

Oh cmahn Dave

We do our best

AND YOU DO NOT RESPECT US, THE CUSTOMERS

REFUND

[autumn compass]

@radiant venture gud luck

[radiant venture]

@autumn compass huh?

[autumn compass]

gud luck with spelling icup

loser

[radiant venture]

icup

[autumn compass]

(damn, he actually did it)

[radiant venture]

rekt

[crimson folio]

icup.

Topkek, got you too!

[umbral lava]

Did anyone's AV ever detect Dusk or anything related to it as a virus?

[nocturne shadow]

I seen Drek

Saw

I'm sleepy

[shut mesa]

someone had that earlier

[vague egret]

its shown up as a false positive before

[umbral lava]

Probably what's going on now.

Uh, probably.

[radiant venture]

oh shit I got an announcement 😮

realized just now

[vague egret]

hell yeah bro

AND A TWEET

[graceful wing]

some AV's go nuts over any file that's not popular

[vague egret]

YOURE E FAMOUS NOW

[winged otter]

go buy NOD32

[graceful wing]

disable realtime protection when launching dusk if you have this issue, i'm pretty damn sure our games are safe

(except for the oshcoin miner that comes bundled with all of them )

[shut mesa]

by launching dusk you agree to give over your machine to mine oshcoin 24/7

[untold wave]

Oh i see there has been an update to dusk.

[vale oar]

OH FUCK IT IS OSHCOIN MINER

DAMN YOU DAVE

[eternal carbon]

Can't wait to see dusk on the speedrun stream :)

[graceful wing]

the update was just minor bugfixes. nothing really noteworthy

[untold wave]

Fair enough i was wondering if the updated the sword.

[umbral lava]

yeah, I'm getting a bunch of false-positives while installing dusk

[winged otter]

if you want good bitcoin miner just install utorrent

[vague egret]

sword reflection will come later. it still needs to be added to the DW side of things

[untold wave]

Steam seems to be having a fit with the update though.

[umbral lava]

Check your Anti-Virus.

[nocturne shadow]

I haven't seen Avain in twenty years either.

[untold wave]

I have should i get rid of those files?

[cerulean sun]

Best anti virus is my brain

[umbral lava]

Well, getting rid of the files bricks the game.

[vale oar]

@cerulean sun

[umbral lava]

So, uh, just allow it through or revert to a previous version.

[cerulean sun]

Oldie but goodie

[vale oar]

Yep

[umbral lava]

lol

[cerulean sun]

B&

[untold wave]

Ya this really needs fixing.

[umbral lava]

But yeah, my AV thinks the new Dusk update has a virus.

I'd rather not whitelist anything, so you guys better get on that. lmfao

[graceful wing]

well... we can't really do anything from our end

[prisma halo]

It's not up to us what antivirus manufacturers decide to officially whitelist

[graceful wing]

whitelisting is the only real option. we're not a multimillion $ company that can just go to AV vendors and get our software whitelisted 😢

[prisma halo]

You will need to either whitelist it yourself, disable your AV or submit a ticket to your AV provider and hope they accept

[umbral lava]

It's just Windows Defender, guys, ain't that hard, honestly.

[prisma halo]

That changes nothing

[umbral lava]

Anyway, I'm gonna whitelist it, but I've never seen any indie games do that before, so.

[graceful wing]

we just got unlucky i suppose

[prisma halo]

Anyway it's a Unity problem if anything

[graceful wing]

heuristic engines are weird

[prisma halo]

The exe is literally just the Unity runtime

It might actually be SteamStub tripping it up

[dull remnant]

It might just be Windows Defender. 🤔

[prisma halo]

lmao

[vale oar]

Windows Defender sucks

[winged otter]

nihil novi

[umbral lava]

Meh, still better than McAfee.

[vale oar]

McAfee sucks too.

[umbral lava]

McAfee is worse.

[vale oar]

Okay McAfee sucks harder.

[faint stirrup]

dusk is a virus within us