dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[jaunty meteor]

I'll put it there but it's more me soapboxing about difficulty than any legitimate complaint so I figure I'll also put it here to see if anyone agrees

[graceful wing]

and in general actually, the forums are the way to go right now

[winged otter]

and i know about Dave opinion about difficulty but game really needs more enemies on cero miedo

[graceful wing]

pax kind of complicates things a bit

[vale oar]

@winged otter Maybe some Steam feedback too?:D

[jaunty meteor]

Eh, maybe it's not necessary

[winged otter]

i prefer NB discord channel with all the Dusk nerds

[jaunty meteor]

I still twitch my eye at rachael's secret because it has SO much shit in it that lopsides the rest of EP1, but I have to remind myself that people who find it in their first or even second playthrough are in the minority

[crimson folio]

@gleaming berry Probably I haven't noticed him. I know that he is Dusk developer, he is very secretive person i should say

only thing i noticed was the alpha mages hitting the enviroment from many angles when u are below them which makes them a non theat, i wrote about here in the discord and he noticed but idk if he changed anything about it other than that i was pretty happy with ep2

[vale oar]

The biggest issue about ep1 is that you actually get almost full arsenal through the very first maps and LOTS of ammo for everything

minus Hunting rifle

[crimson folio]

ep1 is more of an introduction

like it was in oldschool games aswell wasn t it ?

[vale oar]

yeah but it is TOO MUCH of an introduction imo. And no, not every game behaved this way

[crimson folio]

that' s not the big issue - big one of Dusk is weak bosses

higher difficulty = more enemies more precise and faster movement

[winged otter]

weak bosses+riveter=easy mode

[crimson folio]

ye not evrey game behaved the same but i don t hear any complaints about the same stuff which u can find in older titles

if u find evrey secret in doom for instance the game gets a whole lot easier

no1 gives a fuck about that

[winged otter]

but doom is almost 25 years old

[crimson folio]

yeah and dusk is a loveletter to those old days in some kinds of way

its not like u are forced to go for evrey secret

[jaunty meteor]

I feel like the weapon introductions are just fine in EP1, you have a diverse kit right in the first couple of levels

[crimson folio]

and i sure don t find all secrets on my first playthrough and on my 2nd i already know where the enemy spawns are and so on so the 2nd is generally easier, naturally

[jaunty meteor]

The arsenal doesn't have to be compartmentalized between episodes any more than it already is, other than maybe reducing the riveter's presence in EP1's secrets

[crimson folio]

@crimson folio i fullfiled 2 episodes at high difficuly (not duskmare) level and haven't found any troubles

but this ok, because level design and atmosphere are AWESOME

😋

[jaunty meteor]

@crimson folio Have you tried intruder mode? That made Dusk a lot more fun for me on later playthroughs

[crimson folio]

@jaunty meteor Yes I have

[vague egret]

@crimson folio i find your lack of avatar disturbing. FIX IT

[crimson folio]

@vague egret why? do you think i am fake?))

[vague egret]

[crimson folio]

@vague egret ok i ll fix it as SOON as possible)

[vague egret]

[crimson folio]

so you played it on Cero Miedo?

@crimson folio Yes I did. Duskmare is just for masohists and makes sense if you want to get some fun

My opinion

i felt like CM in ep 2 was quite good, i didn t brezzed through, i died a couple of times until i figured out some locations or enemy types

@crimson folio CM? What does it mean?

thats what i expected anyways

[winged otter]

yes,difficulty in ep2 is beter

[crimson folio]

cero miedo?

[winged otter]

CM=cero miedo

[crimson folio]

@crimson folio excuse me, i ve got it sorry

u sure u played that mode 😃

😉

@crimson folio firstly i didn't get the abbreviation

all cool man

[jade root]

hey, just as common discord etiquette, you dont have to ping a person everytime you reply to them

thats a great way to annoy people

[crimson folio]

i turned notifications off

but yeah the weeb is right no need to do that

ok, i ll keep in mind

i'm a novice here

😰

[winged otter]

also change avatar!

[crimson folio]

take something stuipid, some weeb shit or some dark shit

i ve been just asked for it

choose 1

[vale oar]

Fuck

My internet connection FAILED ME

Just posted my shit on secret areas at Steam forums

[winged otter]

so you are basically a shitposter 🤔

[vale oar]

Yep

The great sad truth is...

WE ARE ALL SHITPOSTERS

[crimson folio]

Who knows what cigar stands for? Just for fun?

[winged otter]

healing

[vale oar]

It can replenish your HP

[winged otter]

1 hp=1 cigar smoke

[crimson folio]

really? I didnt notice that

just dusk of duty)

[winged otter]

you can just heal between fights...veeeeery slowly 😄

[vale oar]

Weed of Duty to be precise

[crimson folio]

appreciate it. I found out this feature at the last level of episode 2

[winged otter]

also sword is magical if you have more than 100 hp

[crimson folio]

i know that

[vale oar]

Dusk is full of some semi-fun\semi-useful stuff like smoking cigars, cooking some viscera, drinking beer etc

[crimson folio]

and soap

[vale oar]

YEAH

[crimson folio]

why soap?

i cant catch the idea

of this joke

[vale oar]

Well, I guess David dropped the soap once, now he hates it

idk actually

[crimson folio]

slippery mess

just slides out of yur hand at the speed of light ..

insta kill

i know that

i mean

i thought that this was a specific joke

in America or in Europe

[vale oar]

You should ask David himself once he is online

[crimson folio]

I'm shy besides i disturbed him and his colleagues before about AMID EVIL optimisation

Nice Ep. 3 screens. Too bad there aren't any new weapons, though.

lol

u disturbed them ?

[vale oar]

HERE HE IS

GO ASK HIM

😃

[crimson folio]

this channel is even better than general

i asked AMID EVIL developers via email about freezes, but now that's ok

then Dave at Steam

[vale oar]

I don't think you've disturbed them, you've just made some feedback

[crimson folio]

disturbed = turned them to ask for help

probably

in Russia that means "to disturb"

yeah i think a diffrent word would be more fitting but i m not a native english speaker either

[vale oar]

Me too lol

Russian as well

[crimson folio]

really?

[vale oar]

yep

[timid shadow]

No one playing online?

[vale oar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson folio]

suggest adding coop mode in campaign

[vale oar]

post-launch.

[opaque spindle]

a coop mode is planned post launch

[crimson folio]

and open world

and capturing towers

and adding quests

[vale oar]

Fuck far cry lol

[crimson folio]

rpg system

and season pass as well

so are mods also post launch ?

loot-boxes maybe

[vague egret]

yes

along with SDK

[crimson folio]

it will be interesing

so 1st is ep3 and MP V1 ?

[vague egret]

yes

priority 1 is delivering a feature complete product. extras come after

[jade root]

we gotta finish the game before we add extras lol

[vale oar]

priority 1 is cancelling cmon

[crimson folio]

priority 1 is memes

[timid shadow]

I reckon they should work on the wave survival a bit more. I can play a decent wave survival mode for days. Add leaderboards etc

[jade root]

already planned

[crimson folio]

good idea

[timid shadow]

Make it a masterpiece like Devil Daggers 😛

[vale oar]

Gonna try DD one day

[jade root]

devil daggers is not a masterpiece

[timid shadow]

LOL fuck off

[vale oar]

..okay, then I'm not.

[timid shadow]

Its amazing. Its the same spawns and everything but people still need to play it for a year before they get good enough to get that 1 achievement. I still haven't got it 😦

[crimson folio]

devil daggers is awesome but it lacks content

[vale oar]

Tell me please - does it have procedural-generated shit?

[jade root]

devil daggers is stand in a circle and shoot dudes until you get bored

[crimson folio]

no it doesnt

[vale oar]

okay, the arena fps, not a fan of this

[timid shadow]

It lacks content but you can play it for over 100 hours and not get bored. Well i can anyway. = masterpiece

[jade root]

endless arena

which i find incredibly boring

[crimson folio]

i was bored after 10th attempt

[vale oar]

ENDLESS ARENA? Then fuck it.

[crimson folio]

godd monsters design and concept but

[vale oar]

My preference is Doom-like games - non-linear stuff, exploring, mechanics etc

[crimson folio]

easy to learn hard to master

but not a masterpiece

[timid shadow]

Everything is good about the game and its 5 dollars. Look at the recent world record run, it becomes an amazing piece of art later on when you survive long enough. I can't get there yet 😦

[jade root]

eh

i have

its nothing amazing

[vale oar]

There is another stuff called Hermodr, but iirc it is gonna be as proc.generated as fuck

[jade root]

like yeah

good on him for making it that far

but its so boring to watch

[timid shadow]

Yeah i been chatting to the dev of Hermodr. He still doesnt know the release yet

[vale oar]

The only 3 retro FPS that can stand near the classic ones are Dusk, Amid Evil and Ion Maiden for now

idk about hellbound

looks like arena stuff

[timid shadow]

Really hoping the Dusk endless mode gets more content and upgrades. Pretty much bought it for that only

[jade root]

it will

plus youll have modding

so if theres something you dont like, just mod it in

[crimson folio]

cant wait to see mode with BIG JOHNS army

[timid shadow]

I even had to resort to go back to MW3 to enjoy a good wave survival. 😦 . DD nearly killed my keyboard working on that achievement so i stopped played

[vale oar]

Is there a chance to have more "official" maps of a specific style? Like, 3 maps for rural stuff, 3 for industrial, 3 for hellish shit

[timid shadow]

Ah sounds good

[jade root]

prolly only 3 maps for endless

right now at least

[vale oar]

okay, not bad too.

[jade root]

that shit is hard to balance

[crimson folio]

speaking of mods/maps is this guy @ skacky making a total conversion or something ?

[jade root]

huh?

[timid shadow]

I don't care if just 1 map as long as its good. Maybe even really fucking hard achievement like on DD

[jade root]

prolly no really hard cheevos

we want them to be realistic

the hardest youll get is beat the game on nightmare likely

[timid shadow]

bible thump* do a hard achievement! . You think people would keep playing DD if that wasn't there

we want steam bragging rights

[jade root]

theres no MP achievements by the way

[vale oar]

Screw MP achivoos:D

[crimson folio]

ye

[jade root]

i dont care about cheevos in general

but if you want to go after them

theyll be there

[timid shadow]

I don't really unless its a game like that to test myself and give me satisfaction that i got it

[vale oar]

Those ones from Doom 2016 were as annoying as fuck - make a goddamn snapmap map, win a fucking round, etc

[crimson folio]

well the kill the intoxigator while intoxicated is a challenge and an achievment

?

[jade root]

idk

[timid shadow]

Yeah they had an achievement for finishing the first level in nightmare but not the whole game... -_-

[jade root]

we havent even discussed achievements yet

finishing the game is priority 1

[vale oar]

I could only beat ep1 on Duskmare btw

ep2 blew the shit outta me

[jade root]

nightmare pacifist

theres your challenge

have fun

[vale oar]

Fuck that's tough

[jade root]

its doable

[timid shadow]

ep1 was a bit of a snooze fest when getting lost or trying to find a small hole somewhere

[jade root]

scott and cam have done it

[timid shadow]

ep 2 was way better

[jade root]

what

you got lost in ep 1?

[vale oar]

lol

🤦

hahahahaha 😄

[timid shadow]

Not really lost but wasn't enough action

In a lot of the parts the game slowed

[jade root]

well yeah its the first ep

[crimson folio]

ye there´s no full playtrought speedrun on duskmare of ep2 like ep1 has

[jade root]

we cant go balls to the walls at the start

[timid shadow]

Just saying ep 2 was more like the game i wanted to see

[jade root]

then youll love ep3

[crimson folio]

fuck achievments

[vale oar]

Still imo ep1 needs a bit of tweaking, not to make it balls to the walls but a bit more idk.. enjoyable

[crimson folio]

and then fuck videogames

while ur at it

fuck mobile jesus

[jade root]

whats not fun about ep1?

i saw your post about secrets

[crimson folio]

you say enjoyable bcs you prolly already played a dozen times

[jade root]

i disagree fully with rachels secret

most people dont find that their first playthrough

[vale oar]

yeah but if they do

[jade root]

then they get some cool weapons

[vale oar]

ookay:)))

[jade root]

idk what to tell you

[jade root]

look at that happy man

[crimson folio]

stalker ?

[jade root]

he finally met john stalker

[vale oar]

The main issue though was not about rachel's stuff but with ammo overstuffing

Voodka

[shut mesa]

i've never seen a man that happy next to a post apocalyptic rusman

[vale oar]

Cheeky-Breeky

[crimson folio]

the rusman has vodka

thats why he smiles

[shut mesa]

"here's me posing next to one of the liquidators from the chernobyl disaster"

[vale oar]

What if PAX is actually held in Chernobyl?

[agile hill]

Uhm dont want to disturb in this amazing and interesting conversation, but i got a question regarding a game. Dont know if you ever heard of it or talked about it here. Its name is Dusk. And i would like to know if it is possible to bind 2 keys to one action. Like Space and Mousewheel for jump

[timid shadow]

Is there an eta on when the update is coming and when the soundtrack will be available

[jade root]

not possible yet

no eta

we dont set deadlines

[vague egret]

secrets are meant to be rewarding. the game is balanced around the assumption you dont find secrets. most games are tuned this way

[crimson folio]

^

[jade root]

cause we will miss them

[timid shadow]

OK

[shut mesa]

i spent so much time looking for the rachel room secret after i saw it from the top of the barn

[vale oar]

yeah I mean if I skip most secrets the game is perfect, but if I collect most of 'em, there's a bit disbalance imo

[timid shadow]

Just add a super fucking hard achievement in endless please. OR even for finishing the game on the hardest difficulty. Simple

[shut mesa]

gave up and had to resort to you guys for guidance lol

[crimson folio]

ye dude

[agile hill]

Damn guess i need to try to get myself to use space for bhopping until this gets added... (New Blood pls fix )

[crimson folio]

but do you got em all on ur first playthrough

[jade root]

just use a macro

[crimson folio]

like srsly

[timid shadow]

I want to see 0.1% have this achievement globally

[jade root]

itll be supported in full release

also prolly none of that

[shut mesa]

new blood pls add epeen to dusk

[jade root]

we dont need people shitting up the forums about how achievements are bullshit

we are gonna get plenty of that already

[vale oar]

Jab is angry today:)

[shut mesa]

thats what achievements are foooooor

[timid shadow]

People will play it non stop trying to get it. Like DD

[crimson folio]

most ppl don t go for intesnse secret hunting the first playthrough so {insert what Lain said]

[timid shadow]

They don't deserve the game then

[shut mesa]

omegayikes

that's a mentality

i guess

[vale oar]

Well fair enough about secrets, yeah... agreed

[crimson folio]

as i said before, i played ep2 on CM my first playthrough and it felt good

[timid shadow]

soon as people see that others have that achievement they know its possible and will told to "git gud"

[vale oar]

My only thought is: ep2 secrets are rewarding too, but not that much as of ep1's

[vague egret]

majority of players wont disect every level. in fact most will only play it once. if they're lucky, they might even finish the game (majority wont). you have to balance it with that in mind. catering to a minority of diehards is a recipe for failure

[jade root]

^

[vale oar]

Diehards lol 😄

okay thx dudes

[jade root]

welcome

[vale oar]

Okay I deleted my Steam feedback, cause you convinced me

[vague egret]

i dont mean it as a insult ofc. just dont have a better way of describing it

[vale oar]

yeah gotcha

[crimson folio]

i guess it was good articulated

[agile hill]

Could you guys increase the fov a bit? Cynical is not enough for me. Something like this would be enough i guess

[vale oar]

FUCK

DELET THIS

[jade root]

yo i like seeing everything

[shut mesa]

I CAN SEE MY EARS

[crimson folio]

DUHLET THESS

[dim valve]

@agile hill wait, are you the person on the steam forums who unironically said they only play quake 1 with blinky quake port?

[crimson folio]

lol i just found a guy on steam dusk feels like a half life mod, that one is new

[dim valve]

and that's why you avoid steam

[crimson folio]

from all shooters of the 90s he chooses half life lmao

[dim valve]

what half-life mods does he play? half-nuked? on-topic: dusk is good game

[vale oar]

No Dusk sux:D

[shut mesa]

once the modtools come out

[opaque spindle]

Dusk is the worst game I have ever played 😠

[shut mesa]

i'm gonna make a mod called "suckdusk"

and it'll just be regular dusk

Xdd

[crimson folio]

idk didn t wanted to go in depth with that guy, just wanted to share cause i think the amounts of brainfarts ppl can blow out is amazing

i m good at that also

but cmon

[dim valve]

@crimson folio

[vale oar]

True dat

[dim valve]

i mean, it's true

but he's still admin here

that takes some balls

[crimson folio]

it was a review to be precise but i dont post it here

don t want to imply a witch hunt

[vale oar]

Good thing is Dusk's forum is not that filled with dickheads

[crimson folio]

*bitch hunt

[dim valve]

@vale oar it used to be, but we kept making memes out of them and then they left

[crimson folio]

lol

[vale oar]

lol yeah

[dim valve]

dae remember 700+ fps guy?

that was so funny

[vague egret]

[vale oar]

yeaaah

that dude was nuts

[dim valve]

or that guy who wrote that huge rant on optimization and when zombie wrote back, he just went "okay"

[crimson folio]

i remember a guy who supposedly played with like 1,6k dpi or more and complained about the controls or something

[dim valve]

^oh wow, i remember that too

[vale oar]

Just looked to the right corner of my screen and saw 500_pts . Why isn't he 500_fps 🤔

[crimson folio]

gave it a bad review

[dim valve]

i've lost more brain cells reading the steam forums than the leathernecks whose brains i've shot out

[crimson folio]

lol ye it was painful

[dim valve]

it's been like 2 months since i've last brought them up, but the dusk reddit is still in the double-digits for subscribers

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dusk_The_Game/

[crimson folio]

there were holidays in germany as dusk hit EA and all the lil 12y old fattys saw it in their feed and ranted about it, jeez. They were like, its on my feed so i have the right to shit on it

[dim valve]

oh yeah, for some reason germany hates dusk

i think it's because all the classics got banned there

so they have no reference point

[crimson folio]

i don t know

i just think the current generation is full of sissys

[tired whale]

Didn't they chill out on censorship?

[crimson folio]

yes they did

i mean the guys who played in the 90s did know how to get the gut sutff

so its not that

[dim valve]

new idea for a mod: German version of dusk where all the characters are robots/zombies who bleed green

[vale oar]

Cmon guys some countries do not even know what video games are 🙃

[tired whale]

Legit question, was piracy stronk cuz censorship or?

[crimson folio]

yes

yo we sufferd back then

[shut mesa]

no, the enemies kneel down and put their hands behind their backs and get arrested when they 'die'

[crimson folio]

however its solved now

[dim valve]

#gami_g warning i know, but someday you have to look up the german version of soldier of fortune 2. it's the laziest and funniest edit you'll ever see. on-topic: hunting rifle > awp from call of battlefield

[tired whale]

That and C&C generals were fucking hilarious

[crimson folio]

yeah i know i posted stuff about german censorship

oh yeah

generals

[vague egret]

lets get back on topic fellas

[crimson folio]

lets go into general

with the generals

HAH
+

[agile hill]

How fast is the Dusk Dude

Basic running

no Bhopping

I may or may not tried to "calculate" that now...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_Ux-GmDI2zbMOsTPKoMi-cthg9o3Z_9ge3nnsUWZCZg/edit?usp=sharing

Guess its canon now?

[dim valve]

@agile hill duskfam could beat superman and the flash in a race around the world. also his theoretical bunnyhop top speed is warp 13

[agile hill]

btw

[dim valve]

rule 1

[agile hill]

uhm

[dim valve]

btw is evading the word filter btw, delet that too

[agile hill]

that was related to the google doc

like the size

and really?

[vague egret]

hey that reminds me of the doomguy math thing

nah its fine

[agile hill]

Lain?

[vague egret]

leave it

[dim valve]

duskdude can't do math, he dropped out of 4th grade to punch rednecks in the sternum

[agile hill]

who placed that

[tired whale]

who'd win in a race

doomguy or duskperson

[dim valve]

duskgalacticbrain

[vague egret]

according to this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4nt3fo/i_got_bored_and_did_some_math_on_the_original/

[agile hill]

Treenado 5: Return of the Tree

[vague egret]

doomguy is much faster

[dim valve]

doom reddit 😬

[agile hill]

Well i guess you should make a config option called "Speed"

we need to be better than all other games

in every way

[dim valve]

doomguy might run faster than duskbeing, but duskbeing can look up and down and jump so HAH

[vague egret]

i wonder how fast duskdude was before we added the speed cap

[tired whale]

Duskmultiplesystem

[dim valve]

still salty about removing the WOOSH btw

[agile hill]

well i havent calculated bhopping yet

[vague egret]

that was just default runspeed?

[agile hill]

yes

[dim valve]

you really shouldn't bother until the sdk comes out. you have no way of judging his speed without knowing the in-game unit measurements

[vague egret]

duskdude is worlds faster than doomguy then

with bhop

[dim valve]

nah, wallrunning is some sick shit tbh

[agile hill]

well i do need to find something more reliable than the standart size of the bible before i can be sure of the speed

any idea of a prob thats realistic?

in size?

[vague egret]

i suppose you could use quake units

[dim valve]

port 100m.bsp from quake to dusk when the sdk comes out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-rG9EEn8Tg

iirc the scale size is 1.63:1

interesting thought: because duskranger is taller than every other single classic fps character (96 units iirc vs 56) he would actually be the first to die under a crusher because his taller height would put him into damage frames for longer than the others 🤓

this is talking doom rules btw, not quake insta-death

[tired whale]

So what you're saying is

Compared to Duskmaster, every other classic fps character is a manlet?

[dim valve]

yes. just ask zombie

[agile hill]

Uhm were any kids or women harmed in the making of Dusk?

[dim valve]

wtf kind of question is that?

[tired whale]

Do manlets count as kids?

I believe they should

[solar olive]

Some wendigos maybe

[dim valve]

nah, dave went unscathed

[tired whale]

lol

[vague egret]

only the QA team was harmed. some died

[solar olive]

XD

[agile hill]

there are human skulls in the game

[jade root]

i wish i died

[agile hill]

how old was that person

and was it a male?

[dim valve]

why are you asking these questions

[solar olive]

It was an apache

[tired whale]

he's writing a sexy fanfic

[solar olive]

To be or not to be

[dim valve]

[crimson folio]

why are you asking him why he asks these questions

[agile hill]

i want a reliable source to get size

[crimson folio]

this is discord

[tired whale]

Why are you asking why he's asking about asking?

Who are you, the question police?

[crimson folio]

Yes

[vague egret]

[solar olive]

It wants to know if it's chell's skull XD

[crimson folio]

eh no

actually its Lain n dudes

[tired whale]

Wait, did he imply that DuskNotmanlet fucked someone to death?

[crimson folio]

they are policing n shit

wtf

[vague egret]

you nerds are weird

[tired whale]

no u

[dim valve]

it's a canonical fact that dusk dude actually bunnyhops through his levels by pogoing on his 13-inch dick

[agile hill]

says the guy who doesn't even know which head got dropped in the game .-.

[solar olive]

And it flips on the air

[dim valve]

^was that english?

glados

[tired whale]

kinda

[shut mesa]

its there

a little

[agile hill]

im from austria me allowed to not good english be

[crimson folio]

ye went pretty much downhill

doesn t look like they ever climb back up

Schluchtenscheisser

[vague egret]

actual pic of duskdude

[dim valve]

i don't know how fast duskdude can run, but i do know that shodan would beat glados' ass in a fight @agile hill

[tired whale]

A brit could beat glados' ass in a fight

Not that much of an achievement

[agile hill]

ok after running the numbers with an average male head

we are at about 17 km/h

and bhopping is between 45 and 60 km/h

dont have the stuff to make it more precise right now

[dim valve]

pictured below: glad0s hard at work measuring dusk bunnyhopping speed using an average head manikin

[agile hill]

actually i used wikipedia

[dim valve]

it was a joke

[tired whale]

it wasn't doe

[dim valve]

it was a joke, it just wasn't funny

[agile hill]

the question now is

[dim valve]

who cares?

[agile hill]

if i can run at 60 km/h

why cant i beat the speedrun world record

[dim valve]

because you spend all your free time worrying about statistics rather than gitting gud?

[vague egret]

somebody has to do it

facts like these are cool

[agile hill]

well im not bad in speedrunning Dusk tho
https://gyazo.com/5103b7798ec4c9e4d5abbf70c5c98182

[dim valve]

ahh, a speedrunner

it makes so much sense now

[agile hill]

i sense sarcasm

[eternal carbon]

hey theres me 8o)

[placid pebble]

that not me lol

i will be the best /s!

what level its that?

[eternal carbon]

thats all of episode 1 out of bounds

[jaunty meteor]

I feel like the wonkiness of OOB is going to preemptively make inbounds the "preferred" category

Like how no one runs OOT any% now because the run is so broken/short that the margin for error is impossibly razor-thin

[cerulean sun]

There is likely improvements to be made its more so that there is very few runners and we all have differing interests in what we run

[jaunty meteor]

Oh, and more importantly because you see way more of the game with inbounds

[cerulean sun]

For the moment yes because its easier to route

Most of the oob strats came from like harrah and yorik

So no one is really strat hunting atm for oobs anymore

But im sure more stuff could come up

There is a few ils in oob that are super fun like the way i did e1m2 but unfortunately prop boosting is faster

E1m2 oob could have been one of the most fun levels

[jaunty meteor]

All secrets is probably going to be my go-to category

[crimson folio]

this bloke is playing dusk dressed as thatcher

what even

and the guy next to him is echo

double what even

[crisp lion]

acho

[crimson folio]

ack

[frozen heart]

👍

[crisp lion]

oof

[frozen heart]

[crimson folio]

yup thats them

elite nerds

Hey so in the Loadout Menu shouldnt there be a slider for health and morale ?

[crisp lion]

shouldn't capslock enable/disable auto-run? (actually @thorn trout )

[thorn trout]

Probably yeah

[crisp lion]

cause you could probs sneak it in before the final release

[mild ginkgo]

No

Actually no

Please no

Never

I HATE games that bind caps to auto run

[crisp lion]

well then have the key binded elsewhere by default and allow people to change it if they want to

[mild ginkgo]

Or just go in the menu where it belongs :^)

[crisp lion]

-_- it would be more intuitive to have both options

[mild ginkgo]

Not sure I agree, how often do you need to toggle between run walk that you can't just press shift?

[crisp lion]

sometimes people wanna slow down for a bit, then bam a billion mages.

As for pressing shift, sometimes it's too much effort (lol) or people don't wanna overuse the shift keys (something that SHOULD be used for writing, not running in games) and risk trashing them.

[mild ginkgo]

I'll buy your first point but that second one is bs

[jade root]

Just make shift toggle

[mild ginkgo]

You press wasd 10x as much as pressing shift, and those actually use letters

[jade root]

Like i do in doom

[crisp lion]

shift toggle is just auto-run tbh

[mild ginkgo]

Gross

Heretics

Also directly conflicts with your wearing out theory

[jade root]

You play touhou doom without turning off autorun

You'll get your ass handed to you

[mild ginkgo]

Doubles the amount you have to press it

[crisp lion]

touhou doom? what is that some anime mod?

we don't talk about anime in these parts

[jade root]

Bullet hell doom

Amazing mod

[sly path]

I tend to just, like being able to sprint all the time in games.

Unless it's on some kinda stamina system/stealth thing.

[jade root]

Running tied to a stamina system in infuriating

[sly path]

Let's move this to the Gaming channel, shall we?

[jade root]

Scott go back to pax

[agile hill]

would like to go to pax to show off what i learned speedrunning the game

[jade root]

Save up some money and go

[agile hill]

"some"

[jade root]

If you split a hotel room you can keep costs way down

[agile hill]

the flight would be expensive thing

[jade root]

Oh you don't live in the US?

[agile hill]

not even near 😦

all big gaming things are in the us

cant even go to freaking minecon .-.

[shut mesa]

why would you ever want to go to minecon though

[crisp lion]

irony?

[agile hill]

accounts with minecon capes can be sold for several hundred bugs

[crisp lion]

lol

[shut mesa]

yeah sure that's why you want to go there

[agile hill]

and i still play minecraft

[crisp lion]

you'd die of cringe tbh from going there

[agile hill]

not much but i like building

and i could blow the minds of little kids with redstone lol

[crisp lion]

also take this to >> #gami_g

[shut mesa]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits 😡

[crisp lion]

this is about dusk, not minecraft lol

[agile hill]

Dusk has pixels

minecraft too

Dusk = Minecraft O.O

[shut mesa]

XDdddddd

[crisp lion]

that's it you have officially crossed the line

shitposts >> #meme-review

[agile hill]

You have been banned from this Discord

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crisp lion]

the surgery_room ambient sound (aka the caged black phillips room ambience in E2M5) is just from a server room lol

[agile hill]

lol

[opal plover]

Is that what's it's actually called in the files?

[crisp lion]

yis

[agile hill]

Ok tried calculating the running speed with the Basketball

19.1 Km/H

20 seems to be a number which kinda fits for the size of the objects

[crisp lion]

E2M2's Wendigo Hallway is actually made up of two sound files that sort of turn into a ambient song:

Low_tone_1 + wnedingo_ambientspace
(why these weren't added as part of the Skinwalker song Hulshult released on his YT is beyond me)

according to the files, the ruins in E1M3 are specifically a Crypt, whether made by European Settlers, Demons, or some advanced pre-Colombian civilization (heck even Atlantis) is beyond me

Also the sounds used for the tall (bubbler buzzer) towers in E2M6 sound like something that be used in goddamn STRAFE

[hexed roost]

this guy just showed up and cut me in half

now he won't stop playing dusk

[crisp lion]

"Mixom"

lol

Kinda ironic considering Mixom didn't exist until Doom 3 was made lol

[vale oar]

@hexed roost Which half of you has written the message?

[echo epoch]

It's obviously his left half

Wait is that @crystal vessel ?

[shut mesa]

i like the gardening gloves

[hexed roost]

bottom hald

half

[crisp lion]

adds a whole new meaning to butt dialling tbh

[echo epoch]

Okay I giggled

[crimson folio]

ok last time i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts4u1Db0WBA

@sick lintel

?

[echo epoch]

Yeah that's his doing if that's what you're asking

[vale oar]

So does that mean every time I start ep3, FBI dudes destroy my home?

[crimson folio]

they got eyes evlywere evlyting is wired

atleast till tomorrow

[vale oar]

Okay so

[shut mesa]

evlyting

[vale oar]

even if we watch ep3 stream, FBI will DESTROY OUR HOMES

ep3 is like some SCP-ep3 shit lol

[crimson folio]

#FAKINGGOVERNMENT

[sick lintel]

YES I MADE IT

WHY TAG

[vale oar]

🤔

[crisp lion]

🤔

[vale oar]

🤔

[crisp lion]

🤔

[winged otter]

cool beans

but where is my ep3?

[vale oar]

SOON™

[winged otter]

sunday 1pm i see

what time zone?

[steady aurora]

I believe it is EST for 1pm

[winged otter]

so its gonna be 8pm in poland

[crimson folio]

hey it can be considered less then a day now

so hype even more

[vale oar]

SPOOKY-SPOOKY

[vague egret]

2spooky4me

[vale oar]

All spookiness claims go to David

He created this shit

[serene needle]

not gonna lie, I tabbed over to this chat and I fuckin jumped outta my chair bc of that

[high merlin]

I wasn't able to catch the stream at pax was it recorded ?

[steady aurora]

If you're looking for this PAX's stream, it has not been streamed yet. It will be streamed tomorrow(Sunday) at 1pmEST on the TEAMEVGA Twitch account.
And if you're looking for last years, here you go - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsW_2lji_jQ

[tawny briar]

https://youtu.be/C3DqOIg_2sg

🤔

[flat juniper]

My dad Gabe Newell says that if you don't release episode 3 tonight then then you can say goodbye to your steampage kiddos

[vague egret]

well i guess its goodbye fellas
lord gaben killed us. be sure to send him a nice email

[orchid meteor]

he's just anxious for the release of ep 3 like the rest of us

[steady aurora]

Thankfully David released some info on the progress of Episode 3, just got to check the pinned messages!

[vague egret]

we got that stream tomorrow

lots of new details

for both AE and dusk

[flat juniper]

He says if David releases episode 3 now then he will announce episode 3 of Half life. But David has to go first

[vague egret]

for the sake of the meme we have even more reason to cancel dusk now. hl ep3 must never see the light of day

[flat juniper]

FUCK

[vale oar]

OH FUCK

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

[steady aurora]

I wonder how much they're going to show off for Amid Evil, I remember last in PAX Aus Leon showed off, the first world, Second world, annnd Third world, annnnd the fourth one!

[vague egret]

dunno the stream plan. only dave knows

[vale oar]

There will be only first world now. 😋

[vague egret]

im just a messenger

[steady aurora]

Gotchu, no problemo

[uneven belfry]

dusknite

[vale oar]

Duskknight

[gleaming berry]

Sooonnananana

[vale oar]

STOP TEASING US

YOU

FUKIN

MONSTA

[steady aurora]

AAGAHG

Fucking dammnit

I'm having a seizure

[jaunty meteor]

yay for lava levels!

[steady aurora]

Looking forward to the level with snow in it. Really hearkening me back to Lovecraft vibes

[dim valve]

@jaunty meteor so who will be the first to add the lava page to the duskpedia?

[jaunty meteor]

It should already be a thing since it's in the secret level :p

Oh, and erebus if you really suck

[tawny briar]

THERES A SNOW LEVEL WOOOO

10/10 BEST GAME

[dim valve]

yeah but iirc e2 had a sewer level so it evens out to 5/10

[thorn trout]

wat there's no sewer level in ep 2

[tawny briar]

ye

[vale oar]

sewer level in ep2 wut

maybe e1?

[tawny briar]

there was e1mS

[vale oar]

ye

[toxic wadi]

duuude E3 looks great

[tawny briar]

I think e1m7 is going to be my second favorite level because of that snow level

[wooden cape]

awwwww SHIT

Its FRAG NIGHT!

[tawny briar]

was*

[wooden cape]

?

[tawny briar]

I think its over my man

[wooden cape]

wha...

;-; but I thought it was on sat nights

[dim valve]

@wooden cape i will buy you plebbit gold if you change your nametag to "BigJohnsNightmares"

[tawny briar]

it is but it ended for the day sorry

[wooden cape]

Plebbit gold?

[tawny briar]

also do that

trust me

[wooden cape]

What is that xD

[dim valve]

it's a forum where people circlejerk over fedoras and watch rick and morty

also their dusk subplebbit is dead

like seriously dead

[tawny briar]

put your nick name as BigJohnsNightmares

[wooden cape]

...

Damn u give me DN3D on steam I will do it xD

[jaunty meteor]

"it's a forum where people circlejerk"

[wooden cape]

Nicknames are only on servers right?

[jaunty meteor]

be careful throwing boulders like that from inside this glass house

[tawny briar]

duke 3d oof

[wooden cape]

Or just this server?

[gleaming berry]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/982776764584742912

Oshry @ PAX East (@DaveOshry)

Thanks to everyone who came out to @TheNewBloods booth at #PAXEast today and also those who joined in on New Blood Game Day at home!

We'll see you tomorrow at 1pm EST with @TEAMEVGA for your first look at DUSK Episode 3 and AMID EVIL Episode ...

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[tawny briar]

just this sever

[wooden cape]

k

[tawny briar]

nice

[wooden cape]

Now wheres my duke xD

[tawny briar]

aaah gtg

[wooden cape]

lol

[dim valve]

jokes on you, duke nukem 3d is free on internet archive (according to zombie at least)

[wooden cape]

?

I just wanted the Megaton one ;-;

But I cant find it

[tawny briar]

y do u need duke if u have dusk

[wooden cape]

Cause I never played it

And I love the ID tech engine

[dim valve]

...

so how about that dusk e3 pax news

[tawny briar]

oh ya snow

[wooden cape]

I guess there is a preview of EP 3 of DUSK

[crystal vessel]

Duke isn't on anything id

[dim valve]

i know, but if i said that, I'd get a #bnnuy-and-the-jits warning

[crystal vessel]

Oh right

[hollow ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/376575896070389770/jackgeneral.png

[crystal vessel]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[wooden cape]

oh shit sorry

But I guess EP 3 is almost done

of DUSK

[dim valve]

it actually isn;t

[tawny briar]

oof

[wooden cape]

rip

[dim valve]

afaik m7-m10 haven't even been started yet

m1-m4 are still in-progress and m5-m6 are rough drafts

[wooden cape]

btw not the ID engine

sorry I ment Build

[tawny briar]

they have like 6 levels of being made rn

idk about the others

[wooden cape]

oh

Well I just want a update for the Mutiplayer

I love Dusk mutiplayer!

[tawny briar]

[dim valve]

i do too

[wooden cape]

Lies Tials

[dim valve]

too bad no one plays it

[wooden cape]

Tails*

ya

[tawny briar]

idk when but custom levels are coming to duskworld soon

[wooden cape]

It just needs more servers

[vague egret]

500 has some good stuff in the pipeline. expect them shortly

[wooden cape]

500?

[vague egret]

500_pts

[wooden cape]

Who

[tawny briar]

the guy working on duskworld

[wooden cape]

oh

nvm

[mild ginkgo]

<

[wooden cape]

I think It needs more servers and a better net code

oh shit

Hes watching us O_O

[vague egret]

netcode is something we're working on. particularly projectile feel

[wooden cape]

ok

[vague egret]

right now projectiles are a little janky

[wooden cape]

Its just not fun with bad ping

[placid pebble]

yeah, its feel off on the fragfest

like me

with 125 ping

[vague egret]

as for servers, we're working giving players their own server tools

[dim valve]

listen to the funny hollywood actor man please

[wooden cape]

sweet

[placid pebble]

Oooo

❤

its funny

[wooden cape]

naa

[placid pebble]

couse today i enter in a server

of 2 people practicing humpjump

[dull remnant]

Are people online right meow?

[placid pebble]

i dont know

im on my mobile

[vague egret]

probably. last i looked a couple hours ago, people were still playing on central

[dull remnant]

Ya, I was on a few hours ago

[dim valve]

don't you mean, "meowntral"?

[tawny briar]

im down to play a bit

[placid pebble]

was on german lol

[dull remnant]

But people left :(. I had to walk the dogs, when I came back it was empty

[placid pebble]

make the dogs play fragbest

[dim valve]

still more players than Neptune: Arena FPS 😆

[placid pebble]

and reflex

:c

[vague egret]

people probably played a few rounds and took a break. new maps is also in the works to add variety

[dim valve]

whose twitter do i have to look up to get leaks of that, lain?

[placid pebble]

a good map to rifle maybe(?)

[vague egret]

tbh not even i get those leaks and i attend the dev meetings lol

[dull remnant]

Reflex looks awesome. I admittedly am a part of that games problem. I've been saying it looks awesome for months, but have not bought it

[dim valve]

it's okay

[vague egret]

reflex is cool if you mingle with the community. otherwise it will come off as dead

[dim valve]

no one else did either

reflex and other games are proof why campaign's like dusk are the way to go in indie fps

arena fps is too niche, people want some meat with their potatoes

[vague egret]

its niche. you gotta rely on community tools to get things going. i experience the same thing in fighting games

[dim valve]

fighting games have boobies, though

[vague egret]

boobs dont fill lobbies im affraid

[dull remnant]

And having a bad ass soundtrack doesn't hurt . I was waiting on Dusk to be finished until I heard the music.

[dim valve]

they fill the internet with horrifying drawings, at least

you would've been waiting a long time, then

no offense

[vague egret]

there was a guy on the steam forums today. he said he didnt want to play dusk until ep3 was out. he wanted to know when. i legit didnt know how to reply to him in a way that didnt crush his hopes and dreams

[jaunty meteor]

esp. since the answer is never

[laughter, gunshots, pie throwing sounds]

[vague egret]

the pain is real

[placid pebble]

welp, that sucks potato

but im just triking that if thosesgames have at least free weekends for try

like fragfest, maybe more people will play it

[dim valve]

next time just link him this. the dollars will be flying out of his wallet

[flat juniper]

I mean I would crawl the 25 miles if it meant full release

also wtf with the no big john of the day

[tawny briar]

lol the most I would go is 5 in the desert buring

[flat juniper]

Well someone is slacking.

Anyway, BIG JOHN OF THE DAY!

[tawny briar]

yaaa

[dull remnant]

Fuck! Wendigo is in endless? I nearly shat myself

[crisp lion]

what wave m8?

[dull remnant]

They start at 6 on Factory

Had no idea until he ran between me and someone else. That screech about made me fall out of the chair lol

[nocturne compass]

Where's big john himself?

[steady aurora]

Alright, just played through Dusk E1 and E2 100% completion with Cero Miedo! I am prepared af

[prisma ivy]

Nice!

[buoyant lintel]

hey guys! what difficulty was the infinite mode on in the demo at pax?

[quiet rose]

I can take it

[buoyant lintel]

tyty

[quiet rose]

no problem 😄

[buoyant lintel]

so far my high score is 16500

im guessing there's no like global leaderboard right?

[jaunty meteor]

Unfortunately/fortunately

Fortunately because asshats would start cheating it near-instantly

[timid shadow]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/595140/ Sick game. anyone played it yet

[crisp lion]

#gami_g

[opal plover]

Will there be a vod of the E3 stream available right away? I am hesitant to stay up until 2 am to watch it.

[graceful wing]

Not right away. Gonna take a few days

[paper geode]

I have a question, but at this point I'm afraid to ask.... what exactly is a "movie night" and how does it work?

[vague egret]

the instruction are in the post. you install the plugin/script and you go to the linked cytube page. when the time comes i will start the movies

i usually drop game keys too

[opal plover]

Well looks like I'll be tired af at school tomorrow, will be worth it though.

[crimson folio]

wait so it isnt live ?

[vague egret]

it sort of is but not really. we control what and when things are played there. everyone sees it at the same time

its the same page we will show the PAX stream on in a few hours

[crisp lion]

will the stream be saved?

[graceful wing]

yes, but not immediately

we'll edit it once we're back from pax

[vale oar]

Have I got it correctly - NB stream starts at 1 p.m. EST?

[vague egret]

yep

little over 2 hours from now

ill ping everyone when the time comes

[vale oar]

Thanks! It will be 8 p.m here - a great time for me : D

[vale oar]

🍕 🍺 READY FOR PAX

[jaunty meteor]

why are the new blood cytube and the EVGA stream both being advertised for the EP3 stream?

[echo epoch]

🤔

[winged otter]

on twitch there are 3 pax channels

NB gonna be on what channel?

[vale oar]

https://cytu.be/r/New_Bloods

We are there

[vague egret]

https://www.twitch.tv/teamevga here if you're on mobile

[urban sparrow]

uh oh here we go

[winged otter]

thx

[vale oar]

HERE WE GO BOIS

[winged otter]

aaaand there are some problems 😄

[vale oar]

Dave at his best

[vague egret]

ofc dave breaks it

[prisma ivy]

TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES

[winged otter]

pour gasoline to computer and gonna work

LMAO

[crimson folio]

lol andrew

[winged otter]

"your music sucks!"

[shut mesa]

praise st anger

[winged otter]

episode 3? not 4?

[serene needle]

Duks

[crimson folio]

haha "this is so cool watch this" proceeds to fuck up xD

[winged otter]

they should raise game brightness

cant see shit

[rare musk]

yeah the compression doesn't help here

[winged otter]

almost get bannet from twitch chat for saying "shit"

lol

[crisp lion]

F

[rare musk]

pfft

this is why you should just use the cytube chat with us

[prisma ivy]

Yeah come hang with the cool kids

[jade root]

"cool"

[rare musk]

Yeah

exactly

[jade root]

[rare musk]

Jab ain't there, the coolness is knocked way up

[prisma ivy]

I bought discord nitro so Im certified cool™

[jade root]

[prisma ivy]

Admire my animated avatar please so i dont feel like I wasted money

[rare musk]

u dit it

the thing mov

[winged otter]

jesus crist,that ega mode+stream compression

[crisp lion]

O.O

the lord hath heard our questions

yet has forsaken us

[winged otter]

holy fuck lens flare

JJ abrams!

[crisp lion]

A E S T H E T I C

[winged otter]

speaking of EP4 i like new enemies

also shillboy GTFO

[prisma ivy]

Better not be disrespecting shillboi

[uneven belfry]

@dim valve

This is actually wrong

It's early access 1/4 mile

Full release 1 mile

and things that need to be fixed 80 miles

[winged otter]

lvl design is great!

imo ep4 looks a little bit Quake1-ish

[dim valve]

@uneven belfry turns out we're both wrong

[crimson folio]

lol wtf

[dim valve]

let me know when the stream will be re-posted, i'm too busy to watch today

[uneven belfry]

I agree

what stream?

Wait did the pax thing already happen??

[shut mesa]

https://cytu.be/r/New_Bloods

[uneven belfry]

Idk if i wanna hop on

[dim valve]

lol, did he just name drop me?

episode 3 opening with a drop = 👌

[glacial charm]

beautiful

[dim valve]

muh blue and red

muh color theory

[crisp lion]

the story is confirmed

You're following the Cult Leader

[glacial charm]

and you're destroying what you created

[crisp lion]

CULT LEADER CONFIRMED FOR FINAL b0ss???

[glacial charm]

you're a cult leader who hates his own cult

[prisma ivy]

Cult leader name is Sans, dont tell them I spoiled it

[glacial charm]

HERESY

[shut mesa]

sans blundertale

[glacial charm]

DESTROY IT!! eats marshmellows

[dim valve]

@prisma ivy it's selena, jeez, do you want the pitchfork?

[uneven belfry]

onion knight im not saying i got a hernia from reading that

but

im just sayin

just a hunch

that it happened when i read that

[urban sparrow]

lol sans

[uneven belfry]

dusk guy is actually peter griffin

[prisma ivy]

You wont be laughing when it's true

[glacial charm]

peter griffin is too fat to fit in the tight spaces

[urban sparrow]

I'll be crying if they sit me in a meeting about it

[uneven belfry]

nyehehehe take that cultist, rememba the time i slaughtered hicks??

peter griffin just morph ball rolls into the tight corridors and grinds off 80% of his fat

[glacial charm]

sooo he's not fat in dusk...???

[prisma ivy]

FIT PETER

[uneven belfry]

no he's fat at the start

but i mean all that runnin will make u buff 👀

buff riku

[dim valve]

dusk dude confirmed https://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BYmRiZjkwZjctZjgxMi00ZTJlLTg0OTUtMDgyOGMwYWJjODE5XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTAyODkwOQ@@._V1_UY268_CR110,0,182,268_AL_.jpg

[crisp lion]

OOF

[uneven belfry]

scREMEAMS NO

[glacial charm]

cry us an iceberg

[uneven belfry]

im going to die that image is cursed

[glacial charm]

thank god i dont use the internet that much anymore so I'm good

also someone keep a defib unit on standby if dave passes out

[crisp lion]

fucking

Episode 3 is lookin beautiful

[uneven belfry]

crypt of the necrodancer 3-2 plays

damn andrew's music rippin

[glacial charm]

somewhere

right now

someone is head banging

[uneven belfry]

im foot tapping

hardcrore

[urban sparrow]

👌

[glacial charm]

also holy fuck that new enemy type

[prisma ivy]

🤘

[glacial charm]

anyone think the level is named after the song of fire and ice?

[urban sparrow]

dat subtle music change

tastes good

[glacial charm]

officail name for new enemy: cuddles

[vague egret]

[glacial charm]

lol add that to the dusk wiki