#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
thin sphinx
friendly reminder out of bounds is basiclly drugs kids
dont do it
only intruder go out of bounds
eternal carbon
I think the out of bounds for ghost town is the neatest one, has some really cool paths you can xbow glide over to the level exit
crimson folio
Yo
How do i remove the black bars?
And keep a smaller resolution
In yur GPU control panel settings there should be an option to stretch the image
crimson folio
Hello guys. I'm a russian guy who liked Dusk too much and i would like to know: Have I undeerstood correctly that 3rd episode upcome this week?
faint stirrup
It's going to be appearing in PAX, so make sure you tune in to see that. Not releasing on steam yet.
crimson folio
So it will just appear for game press, will it?
graceful wing
you'll see π
faint stirrup
Yea, you can go play it there if you like but you have to get a room. Plus, you will also see the "Solar Solstice" episode of Amid Evil.
It's going to be streamed avain man, isn't it?
faint stirrup
A hotel room if you want to see PAX (plus tickets), and play the game.
crimson folio
I ve got it. As I ve mentioned I m from russia so I ll have just to watch
faint stirrup
There is going to be an announcement in here, so make sure you're tuned in to find out how to watch it and in what channel (probably twitch)
crimson folio
i ve just thought that 3rd Dusk episode and 4th Amid Evil one are about to come this week. Ok let s wait π©
Thank you so much for assistance, ΓmΓΎrΓͺ§§ -π
faint stirrup
You're welcome!
jaunty meteor
Do the OPPOSITE
@crimson folio A preview of Episode 3 is going to be streamed this Sunday, April 8; if you stick around until then, you'll have a stream to tune into closer to the date
faint stirrup
Livestream it all, can't get enough of that Dave Oshry
crimson folio
Unfortunately i,m a russian boy with a bad sense of English. could you explain to me meaning of "have a stream to tune into closer to the date". Have i got correctly it means that i ll be able to watch preview on twitch or something?))
jaunty meteor
It'll probably be streamed on twitch.tv, so you'll be able to watch it ("tune into it") then
Yes!
crimson folio
sunday right before school .. π¬
crimson folio
Flotilla thank you very much for reply. Can't wait to see what David Szymanski performed in 3rd episode))π
vale oar
Will David actually be there btw?
crimson folio
dude i dont care about school since 6th grade but its the NERVES !!!
crimson folio
GET PSYCHED !
crimson folio
Jawohl !
dim valve
okay, so a while back dave hinted that PIT would be referenced to in E3 of Dusk. I have a hunch about this
What if David did the System Shock 2 thing and made the entrance to the final boss PIT?
vale oar
The whole episode is just a retextured version of PIT
crimson folio
I verified the integrety of game files and lost all the progress and settings (its fine) and disabled steam overlay .. a lot smother fps 
4 files
also before checking the integrity my electricity went down while i was playin, started steam again and basacly looked like a fresh install of dusk ....
idk ..
jaunty meteor
You know, I was doing a run today and a tiny thing came to mind
In difficulty select, could the message about Cero Miedo not being "recommended for a first playthrough" not display after the first time? Or at the very least not after beating said level :p
woeful sonnet
or how about it just not existing?
jaunty meteor
I mean the message has a purpose
but the purpose isn't served after the first run!
mild ginkgo
there are people who get angry when the game is too hard for them, and instead of turning the difficulty down, they post about it being too hard
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
cant win
thats why at least the first message is there for sure
molten peak
Girly men need their hands held, it's just an unfortunate fact of life
summer otter
β do not show this message again
prisma kestrel
"there are people who get angry when the game is too hard for them, and instead of turning the difficulty down, they post about it being too hard" <-- hah, this happens fairly often in doom-modding-land
ultra-violence is basically considered "the default difficulty" and some folks refuse to turn it down :P
[fortunately it's just the occasional rare goofus who actively outright gets upset about that rather than it being a widespread thing]
tawny wasp
I can't even stand to play Doom on anything other than UV. Same with Dusk, it's either Cero Miedo or Duskmare
jade root
Found the goofus
tawny wasp
where? I'll squash em like bug
eternal carbon
meanwhile 190+ hours playing on accessible here lol
jade root
Long as you don't make a scene here we won't have issues
tawny wasp
lol of course. I was kidding about the toxic part
wet token
IS THAT A MOTHERFUGGING GOOFUS AND GALLANT REFERENCE
tawny wasp
been a long time since I heard those names
vital heron
But will there be DUSK merch? π€
vale oar
tawny wasp
I'd buy some
vale oar
HEre you go
vital heron
Only at #PAXWeast
graceful wing
summer otter
UV w/ fast monsters is my most comfortable realm, respawning monsters on Nightmare always bothered me
never give up on your dreams
tawny wasp
yeah, I don't like respawning stuff, since I like to take my time and explore the levels
I don't like feeling rushed in games
silk rose
tawny wasp
learn to levitate
placid pebble
its there fast monster on dusk or ideas for that?
prisma halo
as in Doom's "fast monsters" option?
placid pebble
yeah
prisma halo
That's enabled on Cero Miedo
placid pebble
oh
prisma halo
but it's not available as its own option yet
Cero Miedo is basically the equivalent of UV -fast
placid pebble
tranks for the aclaration
prisma halo
np
tawny wasp
now someone's gonna make a respawn mode
prisma halo
Duskmare is one-hit kills
vale oar
Sure otherwise it would be unfair
placid pebble
dude, thoses chainsaw really are like RE4
dim valve
Resident Evil 4 invented chainsaws?
tired whale
yes
vale oar
Doom 2 invented chaisaws:D
prisma ivy
Chainsaws invented Doom 2 and RE4
opaque spindle
I invented Doom 2
tired whale
Doom 2 invented me
tawny wasp
2 invented Doom
tawny briar
doom 2 invented PC
tired whale
no, gaben invented pc
tired whale
Steve Jobs, obviously
prisma ivy
Oh my god jc a bomb
tawny wasp
where's my preorder statue of the Leatherneck and art book and playing card set and poster edition?
yanno, the one that doesn't include the game
prisma ivy
Soonβ’
tawny wasp
yay, makeshift ninja stars
tawny wasp
how dare
vale oar
rofl
tawny wasp
plot twist
it's the one remaining disk of HL episode 3 secretly given to him by Gaben
it contains one level, which is a square room with one headcrab and a rocket launcher
vale oar
Okay I got it - We'll have HL2 Ep3 after clicking at "The Nameless City" line in the new game menu
vale oar
hey
weary harness
No
crystal vessel
hollow ivyBOT
vale oar
oh shi
tawny wasp
it's only 9 PM here, so no
vale heath
8:58 AM
vague egret
its also a work / school night
weary harness
@vague egret but it's holidays
....
vague egret
not in the states
weary harness
But down under it is
prisma ivy
Australia isn't real
crimson folio
maan .. isnt australia always on fire all over the place on summer ?
rare musk
it only burnt up once this year
edgy crystal
I get this sinking feeling that weβre gonna get sequel baited
Though I mean a Dusk 2 is not something I would complain about considering how fucking awesome Dusk is
weary harness
talking about sequels while the game is not even out yet
k
or I'm deaf and ep 3 is released
weary harness
U 4 REAL?
rare musk
Of course not.
rare musk
no
crisp lion
Ep 4 was garbage so Dave replaced it with Episode 3
crystal vessel
Anyone here play DUSK it out in DC?
viral gate
Yeah early levels were kinda lame
crisp lion
idk why DuskDude was tryna save the US president when he should've curb stomped him for authorizing the military for indirectly fucking Dusk's shit up, and indirectly giving the cult, and the demons more power smh
exotic ibex
π€
atomic egret
crisp lion
delet this
crimson folio
frozen heart
GIMME
acoustic maple
Does anybody know if dusk is coming to console?
rare musk
I don't believe there's any plans for that at the moment
shut mesa
oh
rare musk
pax stuff?
serene needle
yeah, like ep3
rare musk
ah
wet token
incoming to pax
serene needle
no I was just wondering if there was a time for it
rare musk
No clue on that one, unfortunately
radiant burrow
opal plover
Pax Nameless City preview on sunday I belive.
chilly kiln
I'm assuming if any announcements are made about Dusk it will be like made server news
Casue I don't really have notifications on.... For obvious reasons.... At least god I hope so
uneven belfry
EA buys Dusk and Amid Evil off of nb for 8 bitcoins and adds 20 dlc
tawny wasp
nah, they cancel it before release like Thrill Kill
tawny wasp
RIP Star Warz
uneven belfry
New difficulty
Bushland Mode
If you die it deletes and refunds the game from your steam inventory
eternal carbon
Refunding the game is a bit kind of it to do
tawny wasp
it would just delete the game and take even more money out
hexed roost
hmm
vague egret
got any good high scores yet?
crimson folio
You know hype is like a proximity mine just gonna explode any moment
wet token
ep3 lookin good 
eternal carbon
wish i was at pax to get the first speedrun of episode 3 out lol
wet token
Wait that pic is of me!
tawny wasp
yay fame!
scarlet perch
Wish I was fast enough to get tickets for PAX. I'm like 45 minutes away. π π«
tawny wasp
suedaveoshry
vague egret
crimson folio
I can't wait for Dusk to be fully cancelled! π
vague egret
same
vague egret
pax is a silly place
flint cedar
Hey at least they have some good lubrication before they get to play 
acoustic oriole
"soon" and "cancelled" is getting old. Need new meme power.
crimson folio
β’ - total madness
acoustic oriole
woah
crimson folio
ez
eternal carbon
lol dave posted a video of the subwoofer set up and what it does to the machine gun sounds, it sounds glorious
jaunty meteor
I want EP3! I want EP3! EP3! EP3!
crimson folio
ep3 , mods , maps , multiplayer v1 , ...
faint stirrup
...coop
faint stirrup
they'll look into it, i remember them saying that
tawny briar
oh their showing ep3 will there be a stream?
vague egret
TBA
ill be sure to let everyone know and show it on our cytube if it does
winged otter
stop playing with AE axe and finally give ep3 info π
tawny briar
like the endless arena thats all I want to see it gives a good taste of the ep
eternal carbon
i almost dont want to watch just to have a nice and mostly unspoiled ep 3
tawny briar
same
winged otter
almost
vale oar
Dave will spoil everything again
So if you wanna stay unspoiled, do not watch the streamπ
tawny briar
david should do the stream that would be cool
tawny briar
is it possible for ep3 to come out this month?
steady aurora
I'm thinking it may be next month May, or June. But those are just my estimates
vale oar
They streamed ep2 in late October, and the epsiode itself was content complete in late November
so I guess we got early-mid May as approximate date
considering QA and stuff of course
steady aurora
Yeah sounds pretty solid, but would they add anything with that perhaps to do with online?
vale oar
Possible too
Before the final release ofc
So it might take even longer
time will show as they say
we should also take into consideration that ep3 is more "twisted" and complex for development, as David said once
so I guess yeah
late May
prisma ivy
Soonβ’
tawny briar
that was inevitable
vale oar
SOOOOON
Imagine if NB had not released EP2 for the early access version
playing ep1 again and again:))
no big john memes
no broken flashlight jokes
tawny briar
every time I play e2m4 when im falling I just bash F to see the message before I hit the ground
vale oar
..which overlaps the level name
tawny briar
yep
steady aurora
Welp Soon is going to become alive once again, everywhere you look... Soooon
crystal vessel
Patience pls
vale oar
tawny briar
no
tawny briar
ok im going into hyper sleep wake me up when dusk is out
vale oar
No.
crystal vessel
π
vale oar
You will sleep forever
tawny briar
oof
vale oar
No one will care
tawny briar
wtf dude
:[
vale oar
Well that's simple: everyone plays ep3 and no one gives a shit about a sleeping dude
tawny briar
!SETTIMER1MONTH
steady aurora
No matter, I shall play the crap out of Settlers of Catan
tawny briar
run to pax
vale oar
too far away:(
tawny briar
have hope and u can do it I believe
steady aurora
I mean, currently we just have to wait till Sunday to see the preview and maybe get some news on release date info
vale oar
yeeah i guess I'll be there RIGHT after it is finished
tawny briar
^wait really?
placid pebble
It will be fun to see the first dude to post EP3 ending on steam
steady aurora
Final boss predictions?
tawny briar
there is no ending
vale oar
I don't think there is one yet
winged otter
propably some ctuhlu god
tawny briar
ep3 boss
winged otter
because you know,endless city,lovecraftian stuff and all that shit
placid pebble
The logo of Neversoft!
steady aurora
Hoping he will be one hell of a challenge
placid pebble
last boss need to be a wall
tawny briar
that one wall from rott
vale oar
No please no, not another fucking icon of sin
tawny briar
IM FREE
steady aurora
Just of Dave's face
tawny briar
in the back of the wall
steady aurora
Or the return of the demonic cat
vale oar
lol yeah
winged otter
problem with Dusk is that bosses are no challenging
steady aurora
Yeah, that's why I'm hoping the last one will be good
vale oar
Can agree on ep1 bosses
winged otter
when in doubt use riveter
vale oar
ep2's are MUCH better
steady aurora
The Guardian was fun though
placid pebble
welp, Mama was fun to kill
steady aurora
Mmm the build up to Mama was awesome
winged otter
riveter on bosses=killing all with max 3 seconds
placid pebble
and the arena of mama its cool
vale oar
yeah riveter is definitely OP
winged otter
also too much ammo for everything
placid pebble
the need to know where to go, and that she have ar iverte too
tawny briar
na I think it will be just like 3 bosses one is the cult leader and 1 is that cat and the last is that HUGE thunder horse from the first trailer
winged otter
some ppl on forums complain about lack of ammo in ep2,i lold
vale oar
@winged otter Yeah ep1 is a bit overstuffed even after being tweaked but they said they would do that again
ep2 is fie for me
fine
vale oar
Agreed
And Medium difficulty should be like current Cero Miedo
maybe a bit less damage to player
steady aurora
Do they edit the enemy amount depending on difficulty?
tawny briar
but the casuals need to play
steady aurora
Oh, huh alright
tawny briar
no they dont
vale oar
the difficulty pattern is complete I think
winged otter
after playing some Quake custom levels Dusk on cero miedo is casual game for 5 year old
tawny briar
but AE has different amounts of enemies depending on difficulty
steady aurora
Mmm I love playing Arcane Dimensions on Quake
steady aurora
I always have that realization when Dusk will actually have Workshop/Custom content eventually
crimson folio
Yeah arcane dimension is pretty awesome
vale oar
Sorry Sir
crimson folio
Aye
echo spear
holy shit
i had high expectations for dusk but somehow it manages to go above and beyond them
echo spear
or let the intruder in so he may plan your inevitable demise
weary harness
when theres a game on sale that you want but you don't have the funds
weary harness
fine
sly path
Rob a blood bank.
vale oar
lol
winged otter
rob a sperm bank
weary harness
why the fuck would I do that?
EXPLAIN the logic in robbing a sperm bank in order to get enough funds to buy the metro bundle
sly path
Rob a river bank.
weary harness
already tried that
crystal vessel
hollow ivyBOT
weary harness
found one dollar in coins there
@crystal vessel wait... this isn't general?
lmao
winged otter
"EXPLAIN the logic' dude it was a joke,,
dim valve
knowing new blood, we'll see 30 minutes of Dave playing the first level on E3 that would take us less than 5 to play ourselves
also the sound will cut out
and dave will turn on god mode
vale oar
And spoil 70% of new enemies
vale oar
True dat
dim valve
the lady co-host at pax will say "wow, this looks just like the games I loved growing up! all those minecraft feels"
vale oar
lol
crimson folio
Lol
dim valve
Xd
crimson folio
hey wanna come play some duskworld ?
dim valve
no
steady aurora
oof
crimson folio
Fuck u hard mobile jesus
crimson folio
just 2 minutes
sly path
DUSK is a Pac-Man clone.
crimson folio
2 minutes ?
dim valve
@crimson folio
crimson folio
Oh hf boiz
vale oar
Dusk Woldemort
crimson folio
Ye but pacman had better visuals
dim valve
better action lines, too
vale oar
Overall, Dusk sucks compared to Pac Man.
toxic wadi
none of these games have leathernecks guys
if it doesnt have a leatherneck it doesnt even come close
vale oar
What if a leatherneck plays it π€
fuck it's lame maaan
No. No one should see this anymore
crimson folio
sleek lotus
π€ What time period do you guys think Dusk is set in? π€
vale oar
I think the Dusk timeline is a combination of various time periods
like
Wild West time combined with modern industrial stuff
sleek lotus
Probably π€ I'm trying to think of an accurate representation of what He/she/they might wear.
crimson folio
Agent/explorer
vale oar
In ep3 we'll definitely see some medieval shit
sleek lotus
Definitely a combination then.
dim valve
iirc david szymanski confirmed that dusk is meant to take place in 1996 or 1997. all your steampunk headcanons are wrong
sleek lotus
Ah alright. π
vale oar
Can't speak for sure about ep3 cause now no one can tell what it is about - the screenshots show a bit different setting and styles
vale oar
Oh fuck
balmy sluice
big oof
sleek lotus
Well, there goes my plans.
sleek lotus
NEVER
dim valve
"#bnnuy-and-the-jits" π±
dim valve
nah i'm just rounding out all the hilarious things that get repeated around here
vale oar
Ah gotcha
dim valve
dusk is banned
sleek lotus
"Ep 3 When" π
dim valve
cancel #bnnuy-and-the-jits
vale oar
SOONβ’
crimson folio
i think this is all we gonna see today ...https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaBrEV2UMAAKqZN.jpg
dim valve
muh stealth mechanics
muh thief inspiration
episode 3 is going to be sitting in pitch-black corners while dumb demon guards walk by
sleek lotus
π
crimson folio
so arcane dimensions, thief, ....
steady aurora
Sword only run
dim valve
duskworld swords only π¦
vale oar
Well I guess the only Dusk moment I used the sword in was the start of Ghost Town - where everybody are not alerted yet
sleek lotus
I never really use the melee weapons anyways.
sleek lotus
That would be terrible.
dim valve
dae cringe at journalists footage of dusk π
sleek lotus
π π
crimson folio
pink dreams
steady aurora
night π
dim valve
now that the normies are gone, it's time to get to the real business: big john. forced meme or dusk e2's savior?
this is our round table discussion for the evening
jaunty meteor
The former
crystal vessel
forced
toxic wadi
big john is funny but he is partially forced meme
dim valve
i know, right? whoever makes cancer like this deserves to get their pin number stolen on an unsecure duskworld server
but let's be real
if big john had instead been replaced with a Not Important-styled edgelord soldier, would we even have remembered the fight?
dim valve
the problem with big john is that the fight itself feels forced. it's just in the middle of an empty parking lot or whatever when it could've taken place in the main building and took advantage of the huge arena
i get the joke of big john popping out after the huge reveal
but in terms of gameplay, it's not ideal
crimson folio
remember that graph where it shows the *heat death of the universe .. ?
the MP update where is it ?
vague egret
sometime after pax 
crimson folio
eehhmm
toxic wadi
the developers are there right now
vague egret
500 has a bunch of stuff lined up. just doing finishing touches
crimson folio
like this ?
toxic wadi
no much sooner
jaunty meteor
@dim valve The Big John fight is fine, having the last minute of the level be a bunch of dead air would be a far worse anticlimax
serene needle
half cape
where can i get some
crisp lion
DUSK's final boss (or second final boss) is probably gonna be the cult leader or some shit
honestly it better be, those repurposed pictures of teen @gleaming berry used as the cult leader better be some big Chekov's guns
viral gate
That would be amazing
crisp lion
bonus props to David if he does some Doom 2016 reference and the cult leader gets turned into some lovecraftian beast/demon, and we see that
cosmic urchin
we better get some low poly horrors in episode 3
crisp lion
IIRC there's the cartdog, floating lost soul gas masks (likely Soldiers going into The Nameless City who died), and Bone Balls
viral gate
Better be some red bandana skeletons
cosmic urchin
wait was there episode 3 gameplay or something
viral gate
With miniguns
crisp lion
I've suggested once that we should probably get demonic reptilian things similar to the Guardian (and Intoxigators)
since Lovecraft stated the Nameless City was inhabited by "Crocodile-esque lizards" with unrecognisable heads
Of course I've suggested (many times) the addition of another Amerindian cryptid, the Thunderbird, which basically shoots thunderbolts at the player (de la Shamblers)
cosmic urchin
π€
cerulean sun
Hmmmm
serene needle
exactly.
crisp lion
jk love u babe
serene needle
ilyt
hollow ivyBOT
π DUSK is now in Early Access! Spread the word and don't forget to leave a review if you love or hate it!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/
crisp lion
thx shillbabe
rocky lichen
I'm intrigued by how the level editor is being developed when the levels are built inside of unity, must be challenging to work on the SDK around the way the game is constructed?
opal plover
Devs the cult leader final boss better be Hugh Zan size or I'll riot.
sly path
It's Big John's severed head,
crisp lion
it's pretty damn easy to immersed in dusk with the hud set to invisible, music off, fov set to 114, and autorun (and autoaim) off
opal plover
"music off" REEEEEEEEEEE
crisp lion
how what and why
hexed roost
eternal carbon
how many people have played with the controller so far
crisp lion
showing pics but no gameplay video footage
rare musk
gotta raise the tension
crimson folio
i was thinking "whats with the red lights at the bottom of the screen"
but its just the rgb keyboard
opal plover
OR IS IT!?!?
crimson folio
π€
opal plover
Also all weps on E3M2 π€ That's suspicious Unmutual
crisp lion
opal plover
Because David said so on twitter
crisp lion
X - doubt
crimson folio
...oh
opal plover
Anyways am I the only one who likes E1 bosses over the E2 ones
No I mean in terms of gameplay no one gives a shit to be honest. And E2 had a stronger version of an upcoming enemy, a meme, a smaller previous boss and two regular enemies. Were as E1 had a weird crocodile mutant and two giant cultists wich both set up a mystical, backwater feel to everything.
pearl imp
Final boss is the Zanzan
crisp lion
To quote the legendary T-Pain on The Eric Andre Show "Who dat?"
opal plover
Hugh Zan
From Serious Sam
The first encounter
And his father in Serious Sam 3:BFE
crisp lion
ok
pearl imp
faint stirrup
early zdoom mod glory
pearl imp
It was relevant to the discussion. Anything further and I would have taken it to gaming
Oh
crisp lion
lol
vale oar
and they do not give it to us
pearl imp
Duks is seeryuss biznuss
faint stirrup
the keyboard is not rgb, nothing to look at
crimson folio
hey dont worry its already saturday in some countries ...
vale oar
here it is Friday:((
crisp lion
Perhaps
faint stirrup
I like it that we are going to get more open maps unlike e2, so that's pretty great. Plus snow levels are automatically great so +1
crisp lion
turned saturday like 20 mins ago in the Australian eastern seaboard
pearl imp
Darn Australia
vale oar
The snow level is actually the biggest puzzle for brains
WHERE THE HELL DID IT COME FROM
in the Underworld
Filled with lava
pearl imp
Scroogeβs office
faint stirrup
So the snow should be salt but it looks like snow?
crisp lion
I didn't know Arabia had snow
crisp lion
btw for yall whack homies out there, HP Lovecraft said that the Nameless City is in Arabia
clearly David did not brush up on his lore
faint stirrup
that was the hypothesis though taking into account that we are in the underworld
pearl imp
Sooooo Sinbad and Aladdin are bosses in Duks?
faint stirrup
And let's say that we are in another dimension. For snow to exist, there must be water.
vale oar
Fuck
crisp lion
1pm est sunday?
gleaming berry
ye
crisp lion
it'll be 5am monday smh (i tried posting this before, but discord disliked it until now, shrug)
vale oar
Yeah good "episode 3" Dave π
gleaming berry
well we dont have ep 3 gifs yet reeee
and im on a laptop in boston
WEAVE ME ALONE
opal plover
Well the contrast between the snowy landscape and the lava filled underground is a thematic of the level.
crisp lion
what like the contrast of an area in Arabia, a sands wept continent having a random snowy area, with a western-esque cathedral leading down to a literal Lovecraftian city built by croc lizards?
π€
faint stirrup
I can guess that you change between "worlds" in that level. Like going between hell and the snowy overworld.
opal plover
From the screens we saw it just looks like the underground is flooded with lava
crisp lion
any sightings of the wendigo-bois?
opal plover
Of course
crisp lion
tbh I won't be surprised if David snuck in a more powerful variant somewhere, or is planning to
and naturally the Mages have a third variant now?
faint stirrup
ahh ok because i remember a hellish cathedral from a screenshot posted on twitter. I thought of a lttp situation there
crisp lion
that's E3M5
I like the continuity nod that E2M5 has to the previous level.
So in E2M4, the E2M4_IntroAmb (aka the song that plays before flipping the switch) song has the standard "unseen blood curdle screaming woman"
E2M5 has sort of the similar thing going for it, but this time the female screams are more echo-ey, quieter, and phantasmic, like they've become part of the Escher Labs.
Of course obviously the Thresher, and Infernal Machine are basically Human ResourcesTM harvesters, and Hulshult just added the screams in because, it fit the level idk.
opal plover
E2M4's soundscape only has the sounds of machinery and viollin
crisp lion
idk where this is going, Chekov's Gun, the whole Rachael's Secret thing, etc, but DUSK has nothing to do with DuskGuy getting his GF back, it's about Treasure Hunting
faint stirrup
e2m5 has really good continuity with the secret level as well
crisp lion
Most of the levels have really fantastic continuity tbh
crisp lion
although E2M2 into E2M3 is a bit weird due to the different doors (ending, and starting respectively)
faint stirrup
I think that the levels could be tied up together and the only thing that separates them could be a loading screen
opal plover
But the only thing that separates them is a loading screen?...
crisp lion
There's a mod for The Ultimate Doom that turns all the three separate Episodes into three separate levels (DOOM:ONE)
tbh I thought Dave and David were the same person lol
faint stirrup
And a wad for doom 2 that makes all the levels one level
opal plover
Also only continuity that I find kind of weird is E2M7 to E2M8
crisp lion
The end of E2M7 is supposed to be part of the "Earth Energy Harvester (what I call it)" in E2M8
The Parthenon part simply has teleporters that send scientists, soldiers etc on the go if they need to go to the E2M8 structure
I'm impressed that the "front structure" on the Neo-Babel is like a bastard hybrid of a Ziggurat and a Church
opal plover
With a lot of 18th century industrial influence too, that's why I love E2M7 it's just such a wonderfull blend of visual influences and it creates the most wonderful thing.
crisp lion
Celtic, Greeco-Roman, Retro-futuristic (de la Doom, and Alien, not fallout) Industrial, Mesopotamian, Pre-Modern European (i.e before the 1800s), Gothic, etc
opal plover
^^^
faint stirrup
I especially love the moment where you are under the floor in e2m7 (idk what it is sry)
crisp lion
The areas below the alcoves? (where the wendigo, sentry bot, and cow girl are)
faint stirrup
yea
opal plover
Anyway I hope we get to find out what that green energy is in E2M8
crisp lion
I realized before that the Crossbow has the same ethereal crackling energy
opal plover
Nah crossbow doesn't have an electricity effect
crisp lion
then thought "Must be harvested from the E2M8 structure"
it's like a sparking, it's there
faint stirrup
No, I'm pretty sure it's all magic, like the cultists being able to shoot fireballs at you
opal plover
Also probably not from E2M8, if it is the same energy
crisp lion
well I said E2M8, because the US Military are harvesting it there (and it is the currently only known place where the green energy is "harvested")
faint stirrup
If not, then it's some unknown energy but definitely not electricity (that's green electricity though, wtf dave pls explain)
opal plover
A crossbow is too primitive of a weapon, only the demons of the Nameless City would find any good use in crafting one.
I mean we're talking about the same setting were you can harvest energy from blood and bone.
echo epoch
Arcs can totally be green
crisp lion
well I suppose if you wanted to get crazy, shamen, satanists (no, not the Levayan kind, traditional, ones) and all sorts of people that used sacrificial animals, and people have been using those corpses for religious practices since the dawn of man
echo epoch
Green energy is solar power. When the lid opens on Erebus you just initiated super sun power
crisp lion
i.e Oracles could tell the future using sacrificed animals, It's possible the Crossbows are using life-force enchanted arrows (likely made by mages taught by demons), and E2M8 could be harvesting life force, or just the Earths magnetic energy
but of course this is game designed as a faithful circlejerk (made from the heart) by David
any "meaning" is likely pointless
faint stirrup
I think we are overanalyzing it
crisp lion
as J. Carmack Said regarding the Doom Bible's use of story > gameplay focus "Story in a game, is like story in a porn move, it's expected to be there, but not really that important"
DUSK isn't hotline miami, yadyadya we get the point
opal plover
Well Dusk has a plot that you can feel in every level but that plot isn't very deep.
faint stirrup
Wait, how can it be solar power though if the energy is harvested from blood and bone?
It's all lore
crisp lion
Referring to Erebus which is basically some hell reactor that's ripping the earth open
serene mesa
reminds me i should play dusk again
crisp lion
i'd say vaguely the lore states "VAGUELY" in the game's design (weapons, textures, etc) suggests the game is set in the 1980s
crisp lion
to an extent DUSK is inspired by Doom in-story
thorn trout
@vale linden we have keys at the booth now π
shut mesa
rip duskdude's bunny
faint stirrup
The explosive weapons don't make any sense though if that's the case
crisp lion
you start somewhere normal (Phobos for Doom, Philadelphia Country for Dusk) then you go to somewhere fucky (Deimos for Doom, Dusk itself in well Dusk) and then you go to hell
the Riveter and Mortar are basically giant zip guns
vale linden
Thanks, boss.
faint stirrup
it's very fast firing
crisp lion
which makes sense somewhat, since ATF would be onto Dusk faster than the US Army if they found out Civilians had Missile Launchers and Grenade Launchers everywhere in Dusk
take into the account aswell that the riveter is sort of a Cobra-Assault Cannon-Rocket Launcher hybrid that fires giant orange-hot steel flechettes that explode on contact
older versions of DUSK had a more Rifle-type Riveter, rather than the more Launcher-type one we get now
opal plover
Yeah but I said it and I'll keep saying it again the military was here before the cult.
Actually @thorn trout was the cult formed after the milirary found the ruins?
faint stirrup
what's the atf
thorn trout
Maaaaaybe π
crisp lion
the ATF are basically the guys that do anti-drug, and gun things
idk, I kinda prefer the whole cult before military thing, but if it's the other way, it's the other way
shut mesa
yes
thorn trout
Bingo
crisp lion
kinda surprised you haven't hidden a Twin Peaks reference somewhere
crisp lion
stone sonnet
Hello here everybody
lament crypt
what if the eraserhead baby is the final boss
vale oar
looks like the City itself
steady aurora
I'm especially liking the medieval aesthetic
steady aurora
Yes! I also am liking how the level looks believable and connected
vale oar
Added some brightness just for better look
steady aurora
Good idea
I wonder which level this would be considered, this can't be the full on city, I'd assume the real Nameless City will be basically consumed in Flesh and ribcage roofs
fair mirage
maybe this is the nameless suburb
vale oar
We shall see. For now, there are too many different styles and settings: snowy plains, lava caves, bloody cathedrals, fleshy pits and underground cities
steady aurora
Correcto-mundo
vale oar
hard to tell about something precisely
steady aurora
Just can imagine some of those box dogs in this scenario, and fighting in this space - I love how open but conceded it is
steady aurora
Well I know the weird suicide pinky demon like box dogs are a thing
vale oar
Yeah
vale oar
I want more cultist types, like, the ones that can teleport or anything
steady aurora
True, but add a little more variety to there appearance
steady aurora
Yeah, I'm hoping we get some tentacles up in Episode 3 hahah
vale oar
lol yeah
steady aurora
Really represent the Cthulhu mythos
vale oar
Okay we'll see. Dave's gonna spoil it all π
steady aurora
Yeah, I can't help myself, I'm going to be all over both Dusk Episode 3 and Amid Evil Episode 4
steady aurora
Yes! I've never been to Pax, waaay too far for me
vale oar
same
steady aurora
Welp juuust got to wait for Sunday 1pm est, oh boy. Guess I'm going to replay Dusk, Amid Evil, and play Quake
steady aurora
Aaay
vale oar
Masterfully done
steady aurora
What ones have you played so far?
vale oar
eh...can't remember the names yet, the one that looks like the military base in mid-air
and the swamps
steady aurora
Ah gotchu. I think the swamp one is pree big
vale oar
The bigger the better:) The map size is what I always lacked in Old-school era FPS
engine restrictions and stuff...
steady aurora
Yeah, and in AD there are some pretty damn big maps. Leptis Magna is one of my faves
vale oar
Gonna try them ALL
steady aurora
Definitely, do you play for completion?
steady aurora
Well, best of luck, the secrets get tough
vale oar
Thanks man:)
steady aurora
No problemo, got to keep this community strong as fuck
crimson folio
does anyone have more photos of episode 3??
vague egret
steady aurora
I found this and chose to bright it up a bit
You can find a bunch more pictures on Dave's twitter and Oshry's
crimson folio
Bigmac Condom, thank you but i check Dave's twitter daily so i thought that visitors shot something new
by the way, strange thing but why doesn't David Szymanski conduct twitter and doesn't participate at PAX?
jaunty meteor
@vague egret You should probs specify the date in the announcement
steady aurora
Yeah, they're definitely holding a lot of stuff back for the sake of end game content
crimson folio
Last thing after presentation how much time it will take to launch 3rd episode on Steam?
steady aurora
Nothing set in stone, buuut people have made predictions for late May, note this is only prediction
steady aurora
No problemo
lament crypt
the stream will be available to watch later right? if I can't catch it on time
steady aurora
I'm sure it will be, they had the same thing at PAX Aus.
dim valve
gotta say david's stepping up his game for e3 big time. e1 was pretty simple and e2 had some flourishes of great architecture, but e3 looks to be the very best yet in terms of level design
vale oar
He said this himself
Like "The work goes a bit slower cause ep3 level design is the most complex one I've ever made"
dim valve
complex architecture that takes longer > sandy petersen-esque square rooms with spoopy face walls
steady aurora
Watching PAX Aus Episode 2 preview stream to see Dave's baby face
dim valve
gotta admit, as much as i love amid evil, I still think dusk is better at making its individual episodes feel more unique. maybe part of that has to do with 3 long episodes vs 7 mini ones, but dusk e2 felt nothing like e1 and i suspect e3 will also follow suit
steady aurora
Yeah since there is just three episodes, I feel like variety is very important
dim valve
even within e2, the theme shifts dramatically halfway through. you don't get that with just 3 levels + boss
vale oar
3 eps = more levels = more "submerging" effect into the style
7 eps = shorter experience = feeling of some separate pieces
steady aurora
I got a question, what do y'all think is your fav level in E2?
dim valve
skylab
crystal vessel
Escher
gleaming berry
What? David Szymanski is right here at PAX lol
steady aurora
Got to be honest, I'm a large fan of Blood and Bone
dim valve
^close 2nd
dim valve
who's spreading lies about the great david memeanski?
vale oar
Memequeso
steady aurora
Hahah great nickname! And Escher Labs is wonderful too, I remember my first run through on it and straight up started tripping when tables were on the ceiling
vale oar
The very first signal of the Labs can be spotted in Steamworks level too:))
dim valve
thank god nobody at NB forced david to put in a "cake is a lie" reference in escher labs
vale oar
Someone did it to ION MAIDEN tho:)
steady aurora
Oh jeez, the Gordon Freeman reference was good though
vale oar
Oshry reference, Freeman reference, Hulshult reference...can't remember more
steady aurora
Doesn't the announcer mention a meme too?
gleaming berry
Andrew just make those up himself I had zero input lol
Made
Finding my HS yearbook photo was also a surprise
steady aurora
Scared the crap out of me
vale oar
yeah
The WOW effect was great in that scene - everything goes upside down, hellish Dave and SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT...
vale oar
Mama mia lol
dim valve
inb4 the final level of dusk is just a maze of 2d dave oshry statues in a blank white void mad sector-style
vale oar
The Underworld's reality started to flow through our world
There is no final level of DUSK
Because you know what?
crimson folio
a death pit
vale oar
David once said the level is called "Ice and Fire" or smth
so maybe we have two layers
the bottom is hell, the upper part is snowy
crimson folio
like reversed dante?
vale oar
possible too yeah
crimson folio
neat
vale oar
inferno
flat juniper
Ep3 gameplay has me excited that perhaps it is EXTRA soon to release
flat juniper
:[
vale oar
Also, remembering PAX aus, ep2 was content complete a month after the exhibition
Without QA
graceful wing
this isn't like the ep 2 release
ep3 is going to come out when the whole package is ready to go
so yea, patience pls
winged otter
there are gonna be changes to ep 1 and 2 ?
vale oar
Hope so either
Ammo amount needs to be tweaked in ep1
every time i play it my ammo counter is always full
graceful wing
balance passes are a part of the "full package"
vale oar
winged otter
some guy on steam forums complained about lack of ammo and wanted Doom-like backpack......LOL
graceful wing
we're constantly gathering feedback you guys post here and on the steam forums
vale oar
I think he was kinda trolling
@graceful wing Yeah thanks to all of you!:))
this is so great
Honeslty (do not get this wrong or insulting) I would remove the riveter the fuck outta ep1
I know it is a secret stuff but hey it ruins balance
winged otter
yep,riveter is basically i win button
jaunty meteor
EP2 was almost complete when it was shown off at PAX, that isn't the case with EP3
winged otter
also Rachel secret(basketball secret)has wayyyy to much everything
vale oar
I always skip Rachel's secret
otherwise it is literally Press Fire to Win
Idk the sword would be enough
and a couple of ammo packs for AR
crimson folio
i don t see the problem
graceful wing
yea it's a super secret for a reason
crimson folio
thats why they are secrets and not forced elements
that why the mp patch was delayed ?!
graceful wing
it's not at all required to go there for a 100% clear
jaunty meteor
Rachael's secret doesn't count towards the total?
vale oar
The secrets should not bring unbalanced stuff even if they are secrets imo
graceful wing
it doesn't count, nope
winged otter
i fully agree with Viscont
graceful wing
drop that on to the steam forums
crimson folio
eh i think that mose secrets in games make the particular level far more easier
vale oar
eh.. drop what?
graceful wing
david's still at pax so he won't be reading things on here for a few days
crimson folio
ur feedback
graceful wing
the rachael's secret feedback