#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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nocturne hawk
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just NO

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dude is very upset

uneven belfry
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NO, just NO
game with stolen assets is MUCH better then dusk that has REAL EFFORT put in

crimson folio
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What if AR has the low accuracy high dps and pistols are shit but can be useful for activating switches and akimbo + speed rune?

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So both weapons can be useful

cerulean sun
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@mild ginkgo some il routes never even go near a mg

crimson folio
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idk if someone is low on health in mp you can get them with pistol i do sometimes

mild ginkgo
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thats my favorite part

cerulean sun
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And even dooms pistol wasnt as shit

mild ginkgo
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routing is fun that way

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to me

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evaluating risk vs safety of strategy

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is half the joy

cerulean sun
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For ils you always tske the riskyer strat if its faster

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Just makes the optimal strat a pain in the ass to do because of rng

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Again im going to say that pretty much everyone running il right now is not yolo enough to keep their records

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I feel even e1m1 could be beat

mild ginkgo
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for ils YOU take the riskier strats :P

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not all players are you

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you can wait forever on a god run, or just get a fast, safe time

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choice is yours

cerulean sun
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For speed runs its go big or go home

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If you dont go full yolo you dont keep wrs

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Look at e1m1

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Had many people pm me about how they tried and gave up

eternal carbon
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Yo fuck sub 10 head cheese :(

cerulean sun
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I kinda wish i recorded my reaction to it

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Was glorious

crimson folio
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Im gonna beat ya

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Not really, I cant even get 500 in Devil Daggers

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Stupid centipedes

cerulean sun
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Not the same though

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Speedruns are point a to b devil daggers is wave based

trim prairie
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@pearl ibex nice job on the episode 2 run

crimson folio
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Cant find your e1m1 wr on YT

cerulean sun
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Meme version or not

crimson folio
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Both

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?

cerulean sun
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E1m1 is defs the time to beat for ils

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Rest are kinda open

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E1m4 im almost happy with my run

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Still could go sub20

crimson folio
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Whats ILS?

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Hey your 1st video is about necrovision

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Loved that game

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Maybe it was shit

cerulean sun
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@crimson folio stands for individual level

summer otter
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@crimson folio

crimson folio
cerulean sun
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And necrovision was dope

crimson folio
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I want to play it again but maybe my memories are better than the real game

opaque spindle
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Yeah its much worse than how I remember it

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I remember it being good

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then I actually went back and played it

crimson folio
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Same goes for painkiller lol

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Loves it back then

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Missed the mplayer tho

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But sp was...

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Boring? Repetitive?

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Not a fan of those types of games like doom 2016, pk, hard reset, shadow warrior

cerulean sun
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I like em

nocturne hawk
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i 100 percented doom 2016 on ps4 (didn't have a good pc at the time) and then did it again when I got a good pc

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i played an absurd amount of that game

opaque spindle
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Its a good game thats why

woeful sonnet
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I have almost 200 hours in the campaign, trying to build dusk up to that merit now ๐Ÿ˜„

crimson folio
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nice

fair mirage
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hey has the ESRB had a chance to look at dusk yet

mild ginkgo
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that will only happen if we have to

slim sail
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e for everyone :^)

woeful sonnet
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Dusk is easily a teen

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That they'd rate m because their a bunch of numnuts.

quiet rose
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The gore would push it to a M. Pixelated or not

fair mirage
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ye

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you get to eat the gore too

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which, they probably wouldn't even figure out but

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it's there

quiet rose
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Anything with gore instantly gets a M rating.

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Oblivion is a good example

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Was originally rated T till they found out the game had gore in it later into the game

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Bumped up to M

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Quake/Quake 2 was also rated M

woeful sonnet
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(Which ive always thought was crap) but whatever.

quiet rose
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Its how it works

thorn trout
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Dusk would be M methinks

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but nobody cares about ESRB in indie anyway

mild ginkgo
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the only way i could see it happening

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is if platforms like ps4 or switch require a rating for it

quiet rose
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Indiebox Needs a ESRB rating iirc

mild ginkgo
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and yeah, for sure itd get an M rating

quiet rose
fair mirage
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huh i didn't know steam didn't care about ratings

quiet rose
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Yup, it does.

fair mirage
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isn't indiebox where dave's getting the physical collector edition from?

quiet rose
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I think so.

mild ginkgo
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it depends on the case

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if you have retail units its required i think

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but if you sell them yourself, you can just sell it

fair mirage
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hm

quiet rose
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Indiebox doesnt do retail though.

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Online only.

mild ginkgo
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and thats why not all their stuff has ratings afaik

jaunty meteor
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Steam gives zero shits about the ESRB, I wonder if that will be an issue later on down the line

fair mirage
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seems like the only thing steam really enforces is AO ratings

jaunty meteor
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The only reason that there isn't a federally-regulated ratings board for video games is because the industry universally agreed that private regulation was a better thing

mild ginkgo
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also because voters blocked it

jaunty meteor
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If an industry giant starts ignoring the ESRB, I wonder when people will start noticing

mild ginkgo
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like me, for example

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i will always vote against federal ratings boards

jaunty meteor
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@fair mirage Enforces AO ratings? What do you mean by that?

fair mirage
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AO is Adult Only

jaunty meteor
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I know that much, but there are games rated AO on Steam

quiet rose
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Hatred was one of the few games that got targetted by steam due to its AO rating

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Thats the turning point.

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They stopped caring after that.

fair mirage
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shrug idk then

jaunty meteor
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It was immediately put back up after Valve issued a statement calling its removal a mistake

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Also Magna Cum Laude is on Steam now

quiet rose
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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wheres manhunt 2

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:'(

balmy sluice
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WAIT

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Leisure Suit Larry is on steam now? lmao

jaunty meteor
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The whole series was put up like a month or two ago

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I plan on getting them sooner or later

balmy sluice
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holy shit

thorn trout
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oh I didn't know that @quiet rose

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WELP

mild ginkgo
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thats not the case fyi

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the rating thing, after looking into it, is relevant to CONSOLE titles

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because the holders of those platforms, msoft, sony, etc require esrb ratings to sell to consumers

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as a pc title, you arent stepping on any toes

fair mirage
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so say, if for some godawful reason, y'all decide to put dusk on the windows store, it'd have to have a rating? or does that not apply there either

mild ginkgo
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im not sure on msofts policy

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it seems likely they require it though

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yeah im gonna go ahead and say yes

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they literally gave solitaire an esrb rating

fair mirage
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lol

mild ginkgo
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thats some shit

prisma halo
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lol

mild ginkgo
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how many people you think bought this on the windows store?

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4?

fair mirage
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nothin like rating a basically-ancient card game

prisma halo
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Hello Neighbor should be rated [N]obody

mild ginkgo
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^

prisma halo
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I'm still not even sure if that game can be blamed on tinyBuild or its developer

tawny briar
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na like 2 people who dont know what steam is

mild ginkgo
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but yeah, it appears every single game on the microsoft store requires an esrb rating

viral gate
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Gears 4 looks neat

mild ginkgo
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so valve is basically the ultimate in anti ESRB

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they dont give a fuck

prisma halo
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I mean even fucking Ubuntu has a rating on it on the Microsoft store

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an operating system

viral gate
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Wait... says it's free?

prisma halo
mild ginkgo
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and are basically the only platform for games that forgoes ratings

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the esrb is 100% voluntary

fair mirage
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hahah what?

mild ginkgo
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but most retail outlets require ratings because they need to ensure the product they are selling is safe for consumers

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and the same goes for consoles, but more with their platforms reputation than anything else

prisma halo
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another [N]obody-worthy game

mild ginkgo
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someone paid a minimum of $3000 to get that rated

fair mirage
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yeesh

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yeah i figured sending it in would cost money

tawny briar
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I unpinned the windows store it scares me

mild ginkgo
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HOW

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how did they not get sued

fair mirage
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probably not even aware tbh

mild ginkgo
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but like

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surely some dude at the esrb had to look at this and go

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hey wait a minute

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this seems less than legal

fair mirage
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doesn't matter got paid

mild ginkgo
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i guess so geez

tawny briar
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Is it really a loss of money ?

mild ginkgo
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please look forward to my upcoming game

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boggil

fair mirage
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or

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monopolie

viral gate
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lol

mild ginkgo
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lmao

viral gate
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Like.... just I can't

fair mirage
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it's ok we can't either

tawny briar
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1 to 10 what is the chance that dusk will come out in feb?

slim sail
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๐Ÿค”

tawny briar
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๐ŸŽฑ??

exotic ibex
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๐Ÿค”

fair mirage
tawny briar
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ITS A 2

woeful sonnet
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The closer we get to october we get the closer to a 10 the chances become

tawny briar
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i think its a 0

mild ginkgo
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im telling you its a 0

tawny briar
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what

mild ginkgo
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unless you want an unfinished game

tawny briar
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na I know you guys what the game to be polished

mild ginkgo
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i dont even think its a question of polished

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like i just dont think it will be content complete by that time

tawny briar
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True I was not thinking of duskworld or the trading cards

mild ginkgo
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im not even talking about those

tawny briar
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WAT

mild ginkgo
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e3 will very likely not be done in feb

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its possible

tawny briar
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so a 0.02

mild ginkgo
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but unlikely imo

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no

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its a 0

sullen carbon
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I think Awesreek has the right idea

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Maybe halloween 2018 instead of 2017

mild ginkgo
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well thats a little too far lol

sullen carbon
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I dunno man

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I'm not saying this in like, a mean way

fair mirage
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that'd prolly annoy the piss out of people

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tbh

sullen carbon
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But David time differs from Dave time

tawny briar
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I think the full game sdk and all that will be done by then

summer otter
sullen carbon
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And we've already been at the point where like

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Someone says "just a couple more months"

mild ginkgo
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nah we never gave a date lol

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except when we entered ea we said a few months

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which is true

sullen carbon
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I'm not saying it needs to be rushed or anything, and I'm not mad it is taking a while, but I would certainly not be surprised if October was full release

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No, there hasn't been a date set in stone

mild ginkgo
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i would be shocked beyond belief it was october lol

sullen carbon
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But there's been a few times where people have said "we're so close"

mild ginkgo
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like, you may as well tell me the sky is yellow

fair mirage
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but it can be at certain timescough

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jk just being a smartass

summer otter
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the sky is only blue due to light scattering across our atmosphere

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it can also be yellow

sullen carbon
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Screencapping for when October release happens

mild ginkgo
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please do

summer otter
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oops wrong chat sry

sullen carbon
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October is pretty far though

tawny briar
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very

sullen carbon
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But even just in regards to the ep 1 predictions

crystal vessel
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Why did this even happen

summer otter
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its probably releasing in 2018

sullen carbon
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Oh it'll release in 2018

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I'm just saying, I've learned to add at least six months to any timetable

mild ginkgo
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thats a little whacky

summer otter
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patience is a learned skill

sullen carbon
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Or estimate would probably be a better word

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Oh I have the patience believe me

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If it released in 2020 I'd be a happy camper

mild ginkgo
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i think theres a lot to understand about the development cycle and how things progressed

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but at this point we work in a much more predictable fashion

sullen carbon
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Yeah, there's definitely been some changes to account for

mild ginkgo
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more than some

prisma halo
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Dusk's development cycle has been a very interesting one

sullen carbon
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And I know David said ep 1 was a very huge learning experience

gleaming berry
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yeah Ep 2 went a lot faster

mild ginkgo
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yeah, probably worth a blog post or writeup at some point

summer otter
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ep 2 killed my parents

mild ginkgo
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post mortem

gleaming berry
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by the time it's all done we'll forget everything

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would be cool to do a "behind the levels"

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where we do commentary on each level

summer otter
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a behind the level level

fair mirage
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ha my parents were already dead

mild ginkgo
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member how quakecon ate a month?

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i member

gleaming berry
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and how we came up with all the ideas

tawny briar
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dusk documentary

gleaming berry
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I member

summer otter
fair mirage
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no u don't

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liars

gleaming berry
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OK IM GHOING BACK TO SUBNAUTICA BYE

mild ginkgo
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it definitely did btw

fair mirage
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OK BYE HF

prisma halo
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member when dusk was cancelled

summer otter
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bi have fun tell unknown worlds we said hi

mild ginkgo
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quakecon cost us at least a month of time

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it was probably worth it though

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people loved it

sullen carbon
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People love it too

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I still think this is Hotline Miami tier indie goty material

tawny briar
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David had his game at QC ya it was worth it

sullen carbon
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Once full release happens

summer otter
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i look forward to the moment

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that all servers are full

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๐Ÿ›

mild ginkgo
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all the people at the dusk stage

crystal vessel
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I love that it got so loud that it disrupted the quake tourney

balmy sluice
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look at all them NERDS

sullen carbon
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I look forward to a thriving community for years :)

tawny briar
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your just sitting there one day and @ everyone EP3

mild ginkgo
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you can see WHY it was so loud

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a fuck ton of people came over

summer otter
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tell them we said hi

tawny briar
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lets just get the time machine

mild ginkgo
crystal vessel
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It would definitely be really cool to see a commentary

mild ginkgo
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behind the scenes

summer otter
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it'd be even cooler to hear it

summer otter
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whoaaa

crimson folio
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same

mild ginkgo
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tell no 1

summer otter
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u can't hide from the truth

crystal vessel
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wait fuck i was getting pizza

balmy sluice
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Hey guys, what did you think of ep1 of the video game DUSK?

fair mirage
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you're pizza

summer otter
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my favorite thing of ep1

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is the ghost

crystal vessel
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ooOOOoOoooooOo

summer otter
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lol ya

fair mirage
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BOO MOTHERFUCKER

summer otter
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believe

tawny briar
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Did 50 messages just go poof

summer otter
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the truth is out there

tawny briar
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OOO

fair mirage
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yu see nosink!

red gale
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we need to get andrew some stage time at PAX

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hearing the soundtrack live would be life changing

fair mirage
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dave should drag me to pax west

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๐Ÿ˜Ž

red gale
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Same

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Dave bring me out to the new blood offices so i can draw dicks on your walls

fair mirage
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iirc there ain't no newblood office

red gale
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or Dave's house

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really as long as i draw a penis on something he owns

mild ginkgo
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i wish there was a new blood office

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instead i just have to go to my desk

red gale
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what if we just brought all our desks to one building in san diego

summer otter
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the path exists

fair mirage
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yeah but

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then we'd have to move 'n' shit

red gale
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actually yeah

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fuck that

fair mirage
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california's expensive too

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i'll just stay right here on the washington/oregon border

atomic egret
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Why is an friends saying stuff that isn't vague encouraging messages

summer otter
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never give up on your dreams

terse token
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So far my steam curator review influenced 36 views of the game page

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Not good enough

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We get better numbers with obscure anime games

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How to improve this? ๐Ÿค”

opal plover
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Make the game seem better than it is.

summer otter
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make people have respect for the faceless mass of curators that constantly meme curate

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(not implying you fall into that category)

mild ginkgo
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Well dusk doesn't have big anime tiddies

summer otter
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not bad tho at least u r doing something

fair mirage
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(i did that!)

terse token
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We meme a lot

fair mirage
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until the group got b&

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for unexplained raisins

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because valve

summer otter
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I would say that there is few analogs for this strange curation situation that steam is introducing

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but TheReportofTheWeek is a thing

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thats how I view a lot of the memey curators, just some weird guy making weird injokes about games

fair mirage
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i was sad i lost my comedy gold

summer otter
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๐ŸŒน

fair mirage
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and that's probably what 99% of my shit was lol

summer otter
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for as sad as u may b

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b happy that the curators that said stupid shit r gone

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oop

fair mirage
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wait wait was that why it was b&, cos they were cleaning it up

summer otter
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see this place is a better place than steam curations

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I can't even mention the slurs by title here

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I thought so

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I remember so many weird anime curators just being ridiculously offensive always being prominent on game listings and even store front

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point being, after seeing so much of that I was personally influenced away from curators, so I could see why DUSK isn't popping off from drac's page

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weird that the syrian one got so much more than everything else too

woeful sonnet
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Well this is embarrassing, I wrote an article for a website reviewing dusk but the guy running it must not have read past the first paragraph because he marked the review as being about doom ๐Ÿ˜‘

cosmic urchin
summer otter
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that's acceptable

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imo

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or better said, forgivable

woeful sonnet
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Well its better than it being called minecraft I guess

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They're working to fix it.

exotic ibex
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yo, real talk. paragraphs are important.

summer otter
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LOL holy fucking shit

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I have a portrait monitor

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and I still had to scroll for miles

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well written tho

graceful wing
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paragraphs and some grammatical fixes would help out a lot though ๐Ÿ‘Œ

summer otter
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i m surprised u don't like sliding tho, I haven't heard anyone else say that yet

fair mirage
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i haven't really found a use for it

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it's just kinda

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there

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for me

woeful sonnet
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@exotic ibex in think its their site i had it all spread apart

exotic ibex
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they're in the wrong buisness then

woeful sonnet
graceful wing
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hmm that's very strange

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your local version looks so much better though ๐Ÿ‘

woeful sonnet
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Yeah i can look into it.

graceful wing
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that'd be nice. the version that's up on the site is a bit difficult to read

woeful sonnet
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I noticed

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@summer otter as I said it feels very snappy more like Im breaking my neck and falling rather than smoothly transition from standing to a kick ass skimming the ground. Its got this sort of whip lash effect. Whilst I didn't mention it its worse if you have have toggle crouch on, not being to jump out of it at a moments notice by jumping is a bit irritating and until I changed it resulted in me taking unnecessary hits because I couldn't bunny hop.

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Also they said they'll look into that issue with the paragraphs apparently thats not normal.

graceful wing
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sweet!

potent kestrel
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alright guys, i think i should bring this up: this dusk video was copyright striked by something called SME, im being skeptical of this being a fair strike, i think you guys should look into this more

graceful wing
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we have nothing to do with SME.

jade root
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we have no control over what youtube does with its copyrights

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therefor

fair mirage
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so a quick google tells me that SME is Sony Music Entertainment

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so it's probably them

jade root
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we really cant do anything

graceful wing
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yea, so you probably had a background song playing that got striked down

fair mirage
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some licensed music was played during the video

potent kestrel
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not my video

jade root
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anyway

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this isnt our issue to look into

graceful wing
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mhm

jade root
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unless you straight up upload an entire nb ost, we wont take action

potent kestrel
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but what if he had no bg music?

jade root
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thats between the youtuber and youtube

fair mirage
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he should be able to dispute it and win, then

jade root
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^

digital cape
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I just wrote Help Dusk instead of Help Desk at work ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค”

graceful wing
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indeed

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appeal the strike

potent kestrel
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i dont know for sure. oh well

hollow flame
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What if you just play duck sounds in the background?

graceful wing
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Help duck

velvet dew
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guys i have a problem, i can't climb the grid in E2M4 ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

slate edge
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can you give us a screeny?

velvet dew
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this part

slate edge
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just shoot the button and pick up the climbing powerup which should spawn in the centre

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on the ground

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or the plat above once you reach it

velvet dew
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thats what i did

slate edge
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there are more than 1 button, 1 for each platform

velvet dew
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i know but the pwer up isnt working , im not able not climb the grid

slate edge
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I guess restart the last save or restart the client?

velvet dew
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yeah i just restarted the client and did a new run on the level

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i now how it shout work from a playtrough vid

eternal carbon
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Are you using shift to climb with?

velvet dew
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yeah i checked my bindings , and i guess i just redownload the game

slate edge
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hang on

velvet dew
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but thanks for the help ;

slate edge
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do you look up while climbing?

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do you press forward while climbing?

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you have to press forward to climb up

eternal carbon
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schmongo were you able to climb in e2m1 when you fall into the silo and have to climb back out?

velvet dew
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u was able

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i was able

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yeah and im doing all the stuff

exotic ibex
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did you rebind 'walk'?

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because thats what the climbing tools uses to function. @velvet dew

velvet dew
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no i just binded 'crouch' with c

exotic ibex
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so it wasnt working when you held shift and tried moving forward looking up the wall?

velvet dew
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yeah

exotic ibex
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try rebinding 'walk' really quick. i have doubts that will do anything but just try that for me.

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or was it working on e2m1?

velvet dew
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it was working

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wait

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okay now its working ofter rebinding ๐Ÿ˜„

exotic ibex
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lolwat

velvet dew
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thx m8

exotic ibex
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

velvet dew
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i dont now

vocal fog
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oh speaking of quirks
writing mouse sensitivity next to the slider manually doesn't remember it between levels and resets
also the sensitivity affects intoxication wobble (kinda like alcohol tolerance lol)

potent kestrel
crimson folio
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we know

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!!!

thorn trout
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yup it's on youtube now

crimson folio
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lmfao he said the same thing about dusk going early access as i did

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didn't like the level design though

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that's a shame

thorn trout
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@crimson folio yeah tbh that's the only part that stung since that's the thing I most want to nail

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but he's only one guy

crimson folio
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Yahtzee made point and clicks

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he knows as much about level design as you do about dentistry

thorn trout
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I was also unclear whether he was really talking about geometry detail/texture work when he was critiquing level design?

crimson folio
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idk

sullen carbon
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I think he just picked a buzzword so he could sound like he knows what he's talking about

thorn trout
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(also for someone who claims to remember Quake way better than me he apparently has forgotten most of ep4 :3)

crimson folio
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lol

woeful sonnet
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I dont really care for zeropunctuation's critiques tbh he comes off like a cynical prick.

vale oar
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Yeeeah The Memeless City

crimson folio
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quake has some really awful level design

thorn trout
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@woeful sonnet that's his entire schtick

sullen carbon
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That's his schtick

crimson folio
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I mean

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ep 3

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ugh

woeful sonnet
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Dont agree with ya there @crimson folio but to each their own.

sullen carbon
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Ep 3 is the romero one right?

crimson folio
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yeah but i make good things

thorn trout
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ep2

crimson folio
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you don't, clown

thorn trout
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which has great level design

crimson folio
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hehehehe

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jk

sullen carbon
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I thought ep 2 was american mcgee's

thorn trout
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ep3 was a bunch of people iirc

crimson folio
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ep 2 is the best

thorn trout
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lemme check to make sure

crimson folio
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@thorn trout dibs on ep 4

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called it!

thorn trout
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yeah ep2 was Romero

sullen carbon
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Remember when American McGee worked for pc gamer

thorn trout
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Ep3 was willits Mcgee etc

sullen carbon
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I do

crimson folio
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willits sucks so bad lol

thorn trout
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I actually like Peterson's style in its own way. It's barren and weird but imo it worked for the episodes he worked on in Doom/Quake

crimson folio
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he has no good levels to his name in any iD game

thorn trout
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like, Doom ep3 isn't good by traditional level design principles, but if you look at it as "this episode needs to feel incomprehensible unknowable and hellish" they're very fitting

opaque spindle
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yeah defintely

crimson folio
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@thorn trout no seriously though dibs on ep 4

thorn trout
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WHO KNOWS

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first priority is getting full game done :)

sullen carbon
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Thy Piso Mojado Consumed

thorn trout
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Piso Muerto

crimson folio
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mcgee is cool

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willits...

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Thy Dacon Consumed

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willits is definetly a character

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@crimson folio if you love American McGee, try Bad Day LA

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it's so bad

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it's the opposite of a good game

sullen carbon
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id is full of characters, that's certain

crimson folio
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like, it was made to be awful on purpose

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seriously look up bad day LA rn

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looks like the true postal 3

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play it sometime

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it literally giges me headaches

sullen carbon
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I literally can't even

opaque spindle
empty zodiac
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how have i just caught on with cero miedo difficulty lol

sullen carbon
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Cero Miedo is a lot of fun

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I think one thing what's his name had to say that I can understand is there are not a lot of fast enemies in dusk

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Are we gonna get some speedy rude dudes in ep 3, David?

thorn trout
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I dunno

sullen carbon
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How many times will we get to see Dave's face in ep 3? :^)

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I guess it was retroactively removed from ep 1 though, wasn't it

woeful sonnet
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@thorn trout i still stand by dusk having some of the best of not the best level design in an fps game.

thorn trout
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well thanks!

opaque spindle
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Yeah I'd say that Dusk's level design tops alot of level design from actual 90s fps

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I mean shit Episode 2 alone blows most levels of OG Doom out of the water

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its crazy

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don't get me wrong I still love OG Doom as I would a child

crimson folio
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I'm so slow... I love DUSK but this goofy blood mapping project getting in way of gamez

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Episode 2 looks fun

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OG Doom... my favorite level was e2m2

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The crates level haha

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The episode 3 ones were meh... I remember being underwhelmed as a kid too... it's tough to make an organic squishy hell though with no angle floors, no room over room, etc...

opaque spindle
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episode 4 is just

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no

hexed roost
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oh god

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Bad Day in LA

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i have boxed copy of that laying around somewhere

wanton magnet
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when is it gonna get the remaster it deserves

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so that a whole new generation may enjoy it

hexed roost
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NB should buy the rights

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remaster it

wanton magnet
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precisely

crimson folio
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@opaque spindle the e4 map where you start in mountains and there is a temple or something with a huge drop

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It sticks out as good in memory.... but rest, yah meh

crimson folio
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@hexed roost bought my copy from big lots lmfao

hexed roost
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best place for it

crimson folio
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Not even one member of IDs cast did anything good by himself

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Specially american mcgee, nice art crappy gameplay

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Dat grim series

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Also Alice, gameplay sucks

cerulean sun
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its kinda clunky

crimson folio
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I love alice 1, the art, the music

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But gameplay

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OMG

cerulean sun
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lol

crimson folio
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Bought alice 2 and couldnt even finish it

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Nice visuals, thats all

vocal fog
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in ghost town there is a really easy OOB spot when you just HUP on one of the brick walls

cerulean sun
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yea its used in a run

vocal fog
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my favorite

vale oar
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PWNAGE

woeful sonnet
untold elm
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ROFL!! Presentation is what DUSK excel's at dude. It suits the graphics time period it was promising on emulating xD

summer otter
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rofl-ing at him doesn't make your opinion better than his :/

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๐ŸŒน

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@crimson folio

untold elm
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Not trying to put myself at the top

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Just laughing.

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xD

crimson folio
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A 1st episode demo would suit DUSK really well

untold elm
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@summer otter Lighten up man.

crimson folio
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But maybe it needs more than 3 ep to do that

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Not a fan of giving 1/3rd of the game for free

summer otter
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i m the light

stiff briar
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eyyyy, Dusk is rad. Just did a stream of it on Twitch

gleaming berry
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DUSK reintroduces you to a world where butchery and bloodshed must be mastered if you're to survive 'til dawn. Inspired by Quake, Blood, Heretic, Hexen, Half-Life, Redneck Rampage and all your '90s favorites, and featuring a soundtrack by metal m...

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sinful crag
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People really really want to hate on dusk in Reddit its crazy

gleaming berry
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meh

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til they play it

toxic wadi
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that happens a lot during twitch streams

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"wtf this looks old and lame" and then they see it in action and you see people coming around

sinful crag
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"I played 2 hours across both episodes and refunded"

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2 minutes later

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"Why does this game have MP focus on the singleplayer"

gleaming berry
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ALL WILL LEARN IN TIME

sullen carbon
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Nah dusk sucks

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The graphics aren't even good

gleaming berry
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tru

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minecraft grafix

sullen carbon
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Kung Fury the game would be less of a snoozefest

gleaming berry
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there is a kung fury game

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its great

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its 1 finger death punch

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with Kung Furty in it

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lol

thorn trout
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@sinful crag is that r/afps? Apparently they hate it.

sullen carbon
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Reddit sucks anyways

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Plus afps fans are just

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Bleh

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Well, the afps fans that hate everything other than vanilla q3a

woeful sonnet
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Don't recall if I said this in my review buy yes it does look like a game that was made in the 1990s and i can't take that away from it. The problem is when I look at a game like quake, I see assets that were pushed to there technological limits, I feel like the devs tried to make the most out of what they had to work with and it paid off in something that despite its age is still visually pleasing from an aesthetic viewpoint. Dusk looks like somebody who wanted to make an old looking game, but rather than limit themselves and try to craft the best looking things they could with their limitations, it looks like they just tried to make it look old without putting any great amount of effort into it. Again I can't remember his name but somebody redid the scarecrow and leatherneck using that same old school style and they look great. I can say however dusk does feature very memorable enemy location and weapon designs despite wether or not their execution was good.

sinful crag
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quake

sullen carbon
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Oof

sinful crag
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technological limits

sullen carbon
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But I get what you mean

sinful crag
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B R O W N

toxic wadi
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i don't personally agree with the bullying of Dusk's art, i think it's pretty aesthetically pleasing. especially some of the areas in EP2 (and previews of EP3)

thorn trout
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Awesreek you're absolutely free to critique the Dusk visuals as much as you want, but please don't imply I don't put effort into them. That crap annoys the hell out of me.

sinful crag
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^

sullen carbon
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Definitely a lot of blood sweat and tears in this endeavor

sinful crag
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Pretty sure its acopypasta but still

gleaming berry
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Everything @woeful sonnet says annoys the hell out of everyone what else is new lol

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oh shit wrong Discord

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:-p

toxic wadi
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

mild ginkgo
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EVERYBODY PANIC PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS

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AHHHHHHHH

gleaming berry
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Also , and I think we've said this a gazillion times - we could easily make DUSK WITH GRAPHICS

woeful sonnet
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Thats not what I meant, I'm sure you did especially knowing how much this game probably means to you. I was just stating how in comparison I felt it looked.

gleaming berry
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but we wanted to allow it to be David's game with David's art limited as his abilities are

sullen carbon
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Well as you know we kill people that critique dusk at all

gleaming berry
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like I could easily put a 3d artist and environment artist on the project

sinful crag
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But if dusk had graphics the nongib deaths wouldn't be so satisfying

thorn trout
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@woeful sonnet it's fine, just... think of it as a favor to me :)

gleaming berry
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but A. that would take away from it being David's game and B. it would make it take a lot longer

sullen carbon
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Gilby will track you down across the world, and hunt you until the end of time if you leave a bad review

gleaming berry
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You know how many people worked on Quake? A BUNCH

sullen carbon
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He will make sure it is a slow and painful death if it's a meme bad review

gleaming berry
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and they got paid a lot of 90s money

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and Romero had like 2 ferraris already

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Anyway - if DUSK does well we will certainly make DUSK 2 with graphics

woeful sonnet
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Besides I love the game anyways hell its my favorite really, is it a problem in my eye's sure but as I said in my review it doesn't matter in the grand scale of things because its all their to inform the player of what they're looking at. And there aren't any obnoctious visual effects to get in the way of playing.

gleaming berry
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but it's getting old to see the same people who've been in this server for MONTHS bring up the same criticisms

sinful crag
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I will be dissapointed if dusk 2 has graphics

gleaming berry
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we do not give a flying fuck

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valid as they may be

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we get it

sinful crag
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Wait

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That wasnt a copypasta

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What

gleaming berry
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you should try that

thorn trout
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with the experience I've gained making Dusk I'd like to attempt more low res / low poly stuff in the future which will likely look better. But yeah if Dusk 2 happens it will probably be WITH GRAPHICS by someone who knows their stuff

sullen carbon
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Okay I know Dave just said he doesn't give a shit but

woeful sonnet
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@gleaming berry I probably could to

crimson folio
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CONFIRMED: Dusk 2 possibily maybe

sullen carbon
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I would prefer dusk 2 to look just as terrible

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Just my opinion

molten peak
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100 percent sure Dusk 2 will exist, except maybe not because i dunno

gleaming berry
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If you want DUSK to have better models A. wait for mods B. wait for a sequel C. make them yourself idk

toxic wadi
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tbh if someone plays through all of E1+E2 and sees all of the really cool setpieces like the grinder and still thinks the game looks bad, i don't think much could be done to convince them otherwise

woven kite
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for april fools make dusk 2 a clone of maze war

gleaming berry
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I know you don't mean to be a dick but it comes off as being a dick

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so work on that

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por favor

woeful sonnet
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Yeah thats a problem I have I will admit

mild ginkgo
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ROBOTO JOE

molten peak
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Game doesn't look bad, but I'd be interested to see what Dusk looks like WITH GRAPHICS. It's more of a curiosity thing than, "omg u shud make da gaem dis way"

gleaming berry
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If we do DUSK 2 we'll likely pick a certian style from a certian game

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and go with that

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maybe Unreal

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maybe KINGPIN

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with WOBBLY TEXTURES

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what was that tech called?

sullen carbon
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Question

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Will David be a part of Dusk 2

thorn trout
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vertex animations without interpolation

toxic wadi
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vertex jitter?

thorn trout
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^^^

sullen carbon
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If it is a thing that happens

gleaming berry
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talk shit get hit as they say

thorn trout
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@sullen carbon umm, probably

mild ginkgo
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quake 2 had interpolation and quake 1 didnt, and quake 1 looks better because of it :)))))

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dusk is davids babbo

thorn trout
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oh shoot I'm completely wrong

mild ginkgo
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ofc

sullen carbon
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I just wanna make sure since it's your baby and all

thorn trout
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it's vertex animation WITH interpolation

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lol

gleaming berry
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how would David not be a part of DUSK 2? lol

thorn trout
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the interpolation causes the jitteriness

mild ginkgo
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^

sullen carbon
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I dunno man

mild ginkgo
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floating point accuracy was poor at bast at the time

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so you ended up with wobbly mess

molten peak
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Dusk 2 will be the Aliens of the Dusk series

sullen carbon
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It wouldn't be the first time a dev has gotten screwed by a publisher, but I guess new blood is not every other publisher

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I just wanted to have assurance :)

nocturne hawk
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for the 3 people who give a shit, the easter eggs guide on steam is now helmed by another dude. I've got too much real life shit going on to have fun with Dusk and also constantly keep something updated

quiet rose
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Why would you think that would happen?

toxic wadi
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new blood are nice guys ok

molten peak
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Naw it was just a joke

sullen carbon
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They are pretty cool dudes

gleaming berry
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also uhh we doint own the IP

nocturne hawk
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I would love to see how an "Alien" to "Aliens" transition for Dusk would even look

thorn trout
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yeah thing is, I own the Dusk IP :P

gleaming berry
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like I'd have to buy the rights to "DUSK" fro David

sullen carbon
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But even if that weren't the case I'd also wanna make sure David has another dusk in him, assuming it does happen

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Okay that's awesome

gleaming berry
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I mean thats a long ways off

sullen carbon
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<3

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Oh for sure

gleaming berry
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New Blood isn't rally a publisher

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more like a group of idiots that publish their own games

thorn trout
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if I wanted to I could be like "screw you I'm taking Dusk and making it a turn based strategy roguelite with waifus"

sullen carbon
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More an investor?

thorn trout
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and Dave couldn't stop me

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but that won't happen

nocturne hawk
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...are you sure?

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because I'd be kind of down for that

woeful sonnet
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Be an interesting turn of events

sullen carbon
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He's sure

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Dusk 2 is gonna be a vn

gleaming berry
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IM OUT

balmy sluice
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lmao

gleaming berry
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DUSK IS CANCEL

molten peak
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I was thinking more like. Alien was pure horror, Aliens was action-horror. So Dusk 2 would be pure horror, since Dusk 1 is pretty much action-horror at this point

thorn trout
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AND... I would do all the art myself still. JANKY LOW POLY WAIFU BOOBIES

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it would be a masterpiece

nocturne hawk
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That's the only way it would work

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But sell it with a complete straight face.

gleaming berry
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ok im gonna go test the new dusk patch

nocturne hawk
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"This is good, right? This is hot?"

gleaming berry
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bye nerds

woeful sonnet
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@thorn trout again sorry if i came off as an ass

thorn trout
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but yeah in all seriousness Dusk 2 is a loooooong way off if it happens. Don't forget that we'll be spending a fair amount of time supporting Dusk after release (assuming it does well of course), and after that I probably will want to work on something that isn't Dusk for a bit

limpid copper
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just came here to say i just bought dusk and its fucking amazing, awesome job! cant wait for ep 3

thorn trout
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@woeful sonnet it's ok, I've forgotten about it already :)

sullen carbon
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I'm curious as to what the next project may be

nocturne hawk
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It's literally Goldeneye

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Fuck copyright

thorn trout
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@sullen carbon me too!

sullen carbon
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It will be very interesting to see

toxic wadi
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honestly dude, i'm looking forward for your next project. would be cool to have another game with a lot of your writing in it

thorn trout
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but before that I need to finish Dusk and I'll have to work on post release stuff (although probably not as much as I've worked on Dusk so far)

woeful sonnet
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Didn't you say something about doing a game with better implementation of that one with really complicated gun controls awhile back?

thorn trout
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yeah that's something I've thought of

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I have a buuuuunch of ideas

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some of which might just be hobby projects that nobody would want to buy

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I dunno I'd need to take some time off to think and brainstorm before diving in again

gleaming berry
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I mean you realize once DUSK and AE and Spacemen etc are out

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we will have the combined talents of David, Leon, Simmo, Zag and Madok available

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to potentially work on one game

toxic wadi
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๐Ÿ‘€

hollow flame
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And krab

thorn trout
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@gleaming berry that could literally burn the company down lol

hollow flame
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Im a firefighter

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The problem is solved

thorn trout
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can you imagine Zag and I working together on design?

woeful sonnet
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A fast paced vr typing game set in amid evil times where you have to type to the beat of andrew hulshult shredding it whilst running and bunny hopping through massive arena's

hollow flame
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Hup hup hup hup

woeful sonnet
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Also maybe your friends being jerks online to being thrown in there somewhere

crimson folio
nocturne hawk
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yo what if someone made a tony hawk clone but with rocket jumping

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just throwing that out there

sullen carbon
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Too many cooks in the kitchen can make for a shit stew

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It's true

hollow flame
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The next game is ducks

crimson folio
sullen carbon
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Yeah Dave if you really want money

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Buy the rights to duck game

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Make the most badass sequel

hollow flame
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^

sullen carbon
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3D afps duck game

crimson folio
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Dusk Dude's Duck Huntin'

thorn trout
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we may or may not have internally discussed the possibility of a small standalone Dusk hunting game

hollow flame
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Will there be crabs?

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๐Ÿค”

thorn trout
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I dunno maybe

hollow flame
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Do you throw soap at the animals?

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And will it have micro transactions

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Someone could make a duxkhunt map with the jumppads

thorn trout
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my concept was that it's basically Dusk, but in a giant level filled with hundreds of deer and you hup and rocket jump around and murder them all and that's Dusk Hunt.

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it would be super stupid and funny

crimson folio
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Will it have pre-rendered backgrounds and live action FMV cutscenes?

limpid copper
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hey guys, is strafe jumping possible in dusk? i tried bunny hopping/ strafe jumping but it doesnt feel like my speed increases at all

hollow flame
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Is it easy enougj for dave?

crimson folio
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Along with a mobile spin-off.

sullen carbon
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Yes, strafe jumping is possible

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Building Tribes amount of speed too

limpid copper
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ok awesome, ty

crimson folio
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nice

sullen carbon
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David I know this is something I've said a million times by now

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But you're the best dev

thorn trout
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thanks :)

sullen carbon
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And a really cool dude

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Gonna buy you all the booze at quakecon

crimson folio
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lol

vague egret
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ill hold you to that

toxic wadi
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it is true

sullen carbon
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We'll force him to play edward fortyhands

crimson folio
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We need to have a dusk mobile port that is worse the the duke nukem 3d port.

ancient cape
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hey Dave is Dusk gonna have mod support or map making tools when episode 3 is released?

crimson folio
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lol

vague egret
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SDK will be post release. you can make maps now with trenchbroom

crimson folio
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what about hammer?

ancient cape
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is there a site for the new maps

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i mean maps as in single player levels

vague egret
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nothing yet

mild ginkgo
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its very likely we will utilize the steam workshop as a central location for levels

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however obviously external sites can host the files

crimson folio
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Leatherneck ๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿ•ต ๐Ÿ‡ญ ๐Ÿ†™

lucid trench
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So i just seen speedrunning patch stuff coming soon. Whats in it?

woven orchid
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I'd buy a soap skin

lucid trench
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Soap only Duskmatch

woven orchid
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Maybe a soap hat

gleaming berry
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did David just confirm DUSK HUNT

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GOD DAMMIT

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LEAKS

sullen carbon
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We'll bring back fpsbanana for dusk

gleaming berry
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CANCEL

tawny briar
#

JUST LIKE NORMAL DUSK

woven orchid
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Incorporate a lootboox system, but make it only soap items

toxic wadi
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holy shit i forgot fpsbanana exists

mild chasm
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Is Dusk Hunt the VR version of Dusk?

woven orchid
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All super expensive. It'll be a statement against the man

lucid trench
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Theres a market for that sort of game though, look at Blood and Bacon

atomic egret
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nah foster

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dusk season is the vr version

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:-)

woven orchid
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Btw did you say kingpin el mcmahon-e-roni

sullen carbon
#

I had to use fpsbanana not too long ago to find some old ttt maps

woven orchid
#

That game had a fantastic multiplayer mode called Bagman.

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It was fun as shit

crimson folio
#

will dusk get a retro styled HUD?

atomic egret
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m o d s

sullen carbon
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It kind of has one?

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But yeah, not super retro

atomic egret
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you can press -

crimson folio
#

I remember seeing a screenshot on twitter with a Doom like HUD

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Without the face or anything

sullen carbon
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Yeah, someone will probably mod one in

woven orchid
#

The only thing not retro in dusk is that opening splash screen

sullen carbon
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I'd love to have a duskdude face that gets bloodier and does all the fun smiles

crimson folio
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well.. if we knew what he looked like.

sullen carbon
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Once the comic is out

crimson folio
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Like yeah i know doomguy and ranger were supposed to be "You" but at least they had a face and a appearance.

woven orchid
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I picture him like the guy in goonies, the mutant guy chained in the basement

crimson folio
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Also i heard that the comic was non canon.

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but most of the time i picture the duskdude as the comic version

mild chasm
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I can easily picture duskdude as the comic version myself

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At the very least the principal concepts of the design

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Trench coat and hat obscuring his face and whatnot

crimson folio
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and more low poly

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Also comic duskdude doesn't wear a trenchcoat. It's just a really big coat.

mild chasm
#

Could have also given him leather gloves to make him as much a blank slate as possible while maintaining a memorable look

crimson folio
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yeah

mild chasm
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It probably is a trenchcoat with how swole he is

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It just fits him like a normal coat

crimson folio
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True.

crimson folio
#

can someone send me a link to make dusk maps

cerulean sun
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Sdk isnt out yet but the editor to be used is known

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Cant remeber the name right now

crimson folio
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alright

balmy sluice
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Use trenchbroom

crimson folio
#

trenchbroom?

balmy sluice
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Quake mapper

cerulean sun
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Thats it

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Syntek to the rescue

crimson folio
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is it easy or hard to make maps with that

balmy sluice
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@livid ridge will be much more of a help with it than me.

crimson folio
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alright

livid ridge
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I quit trenchbroom. I only map for blood now. No questions please. My heart is heavy. :'(

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Jk. Ask away.

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@crimson folio

crimson folio
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alright lol

wild fossil
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just wamted to mention that as many people should see that movie night shit as possible, blade runer 2049 is one of my favorite creations of all time next to bruce lee

lucid trench
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Patchc is here

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Restart binding is very very helpful

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Same with Endless being its own thing

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RIP "How do E2?" memes

gleaming berry
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WEW

gloomy frost
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i turned on bloom in dusk

gleaming berry
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OH NO DONT

thorn trout
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new meme: Dusk is a child's macoroni [sic] art

gleaming berry
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D O N T

gloomy frost
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the game looks good

gleaming berry
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sometimes

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other times bloom is very bads

gloomy frost
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i mean for what it is

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it guud

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other times its like putting sparkles on a dog turd in terms of beauty but in other areas the game looks beautiful

lucid trench
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The option is there and good. I've never known a game to be bad because of too many options

cerulean sun
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Reset button ๐Ÿ˜

gleaming berry
thorn trout
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not sure what a macoroni is but I guess Dusk is it

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I assume it's similar to macaroni?

crimson folio
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what was the update for dusk

thorn trout
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(inb4 someone points out the hypocrisy of me making fun of someone else's spelling)

balmy sluice
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"DD has better gameplay than dusk"

thorn trout
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patch notes

crimson folio
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cool nice update

potent kestrel
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@balmy sluice whats dd

quiet rose
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Devil Daggers

molten peak
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"Levels don't fit with movement" Sure there are tight-spaces, but the best way to fix that problem is to git gud

ancient cape
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Hey david is there an option to turn on autosaves between levels or no

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devil d agger?

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i literally just gifted that game to one of my friends 3 minutes go lmao

balmy sluice
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Yeah, Devil Daggers like steev said. Its a wave based survival game

thorn trout
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@ancient cape at the moment level select acts as autosaves

ancient cape
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why is there no autosave system in dusk? is this like a design choice or something because im a little confused as to why the game doesnt have one bc a forgetful person like me gets fucked by that lol

vast cloak
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You must play with bravery--if you die, start of the level

ancient cape
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oh yeah i agree

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but like in between levels

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like somtimes i forget to save after i beat a level so if i wanna keep the playthru continuous i gotta beat it again

thorn trout
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@ancient cape not an intentional decision no, it just fell through the cracks. It might happen before release. We'll see

molten peak
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"Esc key also now acts as back button." This patch m-m-makes me happy

gleaming berry
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YEAH ME TOO

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ESC FOR DAYS

opaque spindle
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Now I can esc out of this bad game ๐Ÿ˜

gleaming berry
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WEW

thorn trout
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I guess but it'll take you awhile if you're deep in the options menus now :3

opaque spindle
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damn

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foiled again

prisma halo
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where's my refund button

molten peak
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Shitty game with small levels and unmatching enemies. Give it the Macaroni Award

crystal vessel
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What Zombie said

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I wanna bind it to mwheel down and up

thorn trout
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that would be kind of hilarious if there was a way to do refunds through the Steam API

prisma halo
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I kinda wonder that now

thorn trout
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just put a giant "refund this game if you're dum" button on the main menu

prisma halo
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could make a piece of malware

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a proxy steam_api dll

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that refunds all your games

thorn trout
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oh geez yeah

mild ginkgo
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i dont think theres a waay to

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but you CAN grief the fuck out of their backend

prisma halo
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Yeah, for that reason

mild ginkgo
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like, having just dealth with steamworks backend, i started getting nice thoughts about how to grief it

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because its so fun to work with....

gleaming berry
balmy sluice
summer otter
opaque spindle
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Sounds like you've had that planned for a long time Dave

summer otter
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him and my mom go way back

molten peak
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what's an episode 2?

opaque spindle
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I think its a type of meat

molten peak
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My meat episodes are many and long

balmy sluice
summer otter
molten peak
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That pair of flapping wings in your av is missing a seagull

summer otter
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i'll let them know how u feel

atomic egret
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what's the new patch?

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Can't see any new patchnotes in the discussion thread

atomic egret
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????

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no 1/02/18

crystal vessel
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what

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Gilby you're in Australia

quiet rose
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1/31/2018

atomic egret
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what

quiet rose
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We do not post them with euro date format.

atomic egret
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since when did david actually start putting the new ones at the top

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also

quiet rose
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Since now

atomic egret
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*rest of the world date format

quiet rose
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

molten peak
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Get outta here with your sensical malarky and footsoccer

atomic egret
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honestly

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why on earth would you put the month first anyway

quiet rose
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Lets not get into it :)

molten peak
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technically policy related

quiet rose
cosmic urchin
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FUCKING

rotund glen
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what does the X above the K in dusk do?

mild ginkgo
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close the menu

atomic egret
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closes the menu

mild ginkgo
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r e k t