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fair mirage
oh fuck
willow oriole
After he adds the submersible
thorn trout
also I would be more excited about adding pitch controls for 6dof if anyone aside from @mild ginkgo and I used them
jade root
I use 6dof :(
thorn trout
and I'd totally be up for doing a 6dof game if @gleaming berry didn't believe the genre us dead
BASICALLY BLAME EVERYONE ELSE
thorn trout
FOR EVERYTHING
grave star
Will there be Co-op in Future ?
fair mirage
what the fuck dave
jade root
Yes
thorn trout
@jade root ok there's three of us then
jade root
Co-op post launch
mild ginkgo
6dof 4evr
fair mirage
also i use it too
jade root
Loved the 6dof sections of prey
fair mirage
i should yell at dave to play sublevel zero
thorn trout
still gonna do more than nothing at all with water in ep3
fair mirage
as proof people still make those
jade root
Aw
rotund arch
Make 6dof mandatory, simple solution
graceful wing
i dunno
jade root
I'll make a swim map
crimson folio
Our modern games have untrained my ability to find secrets in gamez... I found all in e1m1 And struggled to 1/6 on e1m2... looked at a guide just for some insight of one or two... wow. I can't believe I missed thrm
graceful wing
making a 6dof focused game that doesn't control terribly isn't all that easy
thorn trout
@rotund arch naw because half of the NB backend despises those controls, including Dave :P
willow oriole
I still think you should grunt when you press use on the walls
thorn trout
@willow oriole yeah
willow oriole
Best feature
jade root
I grunt when I use walls
jaunty meteor
"YOU CAN DO BACKFLIPS!"
[In the privacy of his own home]
"thank god I can disable this janky-ass unlocked y-axis"
thorn trout
tbh the list of weird ideas I had that didn't work in Dusk is longer than the list of weird ideas I had (backflips etc) that did work
jaunty meteor
me never was good at graphing...
jade root
When he sees that's wrong
willow oriole
DUSK: Director's Cut DLC
jade root
Some of the those earlier builds and levels had some cool concepts on paper
jaunty meteor
... So I WASN'T wrong
rotund arch
Oh yea I got a bug a few days ago where my y axis stayed upside down when I landed so I played doing a handstand for a whole level
jaunty meteor
you're gaslighting me on basic mathematics now??
fair mirage
unless unity's dumb and switches x and y
jade root
I still liked the original aiming system
rotund arch
I have a newfound respect for gravity
willow oriole
Fuck gravity I'd rather float into space
jade root
Hipfire = autoaim
Zoom = concentrated aim
thorn trout
@fair mirage rotation on x axis = up/down rotation
I still think the rushing wind sound could have worked in the context of full music/ambient sound, with some tweaking
fair mirage
so
x = pitch
y = yaw
z = roll
?
thorn trout
and maybe with footsteps
thorn trout
yeah that's one of the main reasons they aren't in Dusk
jade root
The speed you are going will never line up with your footsteps
fair mirage
ok yeah i'm dumb
thorn trout
that and material sounds = blegh
jade root
I liked the wind noise
willow oriole
Test me
jaunty meteor
If it was anything like how it was in your early prototype, that whooshing would've driven me nuts
thorn trout
not worth the time
jaunty meteor
Whooshing sound playing 99% of the time
graceful wing
yup footstep noises in general are annoying
thorn trout
yeah I dunno maybe it wouldn't have worked
jade root
Rip chainsaw and hammer
graceful wing
i don't want to listen to a constant thump when i'm running around
jade root
Totem was boring tho imo
willow oriole
DUSK Dude has petite feet
thorn trout
everyone laments the death of the chainsaw, but the thing is it wasn't fun at all
rotund arch
Dusk dude skipped leg day
bronze nacelle
mapping tools where?
crimson folio
yo random question
graceful wing
shoot
crimson folio
with the Dusk SDK we we be able to reimplement some C# logic
rotund arch
@bronze nacelle use trenchboom
crimson folio
like
fair mirage
shoots avain
bronze nacelle
where's the wad file?
thorn trout
@crimson folio when the sdk is complete the plan is you can do basically anything with it
@prisma halo has more info
crimson folio
if i want to reimplement the character controller movement to have Vanilla Quake 3 style strafejumping
graceful wing
tl:dr the game's source will be almost completely exposed
thorn trout
^^^
crimson folio
oh sick
thorn trout
that's the plan at least
grave star
Will there be Steam Workshop in Future (Post-Launch ?)
rotund arch
Ooh a full physics overhaul, get ready for one hell of a ride
crimson folio
i do have a question tho
thorn trout
we all want to make the game as moddable as possible
crimson folio
how does the Dusk character controller work
bronze nacelle
who uses steam workshop anyways?
fair mirage
scoot keeps talking about making a cpma-like thing
crimson folio
as it's base
thorn trout
we've also had discussions about adding a "pro movement" mode post release, that can be turned on for more complicated/skill-based movement mechanics
fair mirage
yeah see
thorn trout
since I know the simple bunnyhopping isn't fun for everyone
bronze nacelle
add reloading guns
fair mirage
i like it
willow oriole
It's fun for us who suck
thorn trout
namely skilled Quake speedrunners
crimson folio
ew
rotund arch
Tbh you should keep it like it is, pro movement would be neat but it's kind of not this games identity
fair mirage
nice change of pace
thorn trout
it's fun for ME because I can't bunnyhop in anything else :P
crimson folio
can you make the sdk have a botnet that haxors anyone who tries to add reloading?
willow oriole
TBH I think John Carmack himself hated bunny hopping in Quake
thorn trout
the idea is that normal Dusk movement will stay the same because it's fun, but there will be an optional mode for more complex movement
but that's not official yet. Just something we've talked about
we have a lot of plans for supporting the game over the long run, provided it sells well
rotund arch
Oh, that makes more sense than what I interpreted lol
thorn trout
in other words keep shilling ;)
crimson folio
@willow oriole he did but ultimatley decided to keep it in knowing that it had become such a core part of the "quake" identity that he decided to not go that route
willow oriole
Yeah
rotund arch
That would actually be kinda neat
bronze nacelle
spend more time in the modding tools
willow oriole
I'm excited for the future of DUSK
Especially if mission packs and cool ass mods come out
thorn trout
tbh John Carmack was way too wrapped up in making things follow established rules
in terms of design
rotund arch
Also map pack dlcs would be a cool way for making more money in the long run too, I'd buy them
willow oriole
Yeah
thorn trout
yup, we want to do expansion packs
rotund arch
Awesome
thorn trout
and lots of free updates/support as well
exotic ibex
im foaming at the mouth to do a SP level
crimson folio
so are the actual base game maps made using trenchboom
exotic ibex
so fucking hard
thorn trout
basically the plan is we want to support and add to the game for a long while
crimson folio
or something like SabreCSG or Probuilder
bronze nacelle
pit2.exe?
crimson folio
?
rotund arch
Will it be like quake where the map packs add different weapon or enemies too?
willow oriole
It's cool that you guys are also dedicated to that
thorn trout
but of course if it's a commercial failure and NB doesn't make any money from it, we won't be able to
willow oriole
Because if the modding scene takes off it'll be like loads of shit to play
thorn trout
so we aren't promising anything
willow oriole
Game seems to be doing pretty well so far
jaunty meteor
I definitely hope that isn't the case, I'd buy a dusk expansion pack day one
rotund arch
I'm sure it'll do pretty well, word of mouth is spreading and the whole 30k wishlist thing is promising as hell
thorn trout
@exotic ibex yeah I think it would be super fun for QA to do a mission pack or something
jaunty meteor
I've already been convincing all my friends to get it, I've netted you maybe 2 or 3 purchases :p
thorn trout
you guys would have a different take on everything than I do
exotic ibex
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
rotund arch
Hank has arrived
bronze nacelle
I want pit 2
willow oriole
It's #1 in Trending Now on Steamspy
frozen heart
Serious Skeleton
thorn trout
@rotund arch erm... it's like 75k actually :3
frozen heart
No you dont
thorn trout
WE HAVE A LOT OF WISHLISTS
but our conversion rate is below average
STILL
lots of wishlists
rotund arch
It's only just become EA, full release will draw in a lot more
fair mirage
it'd be something to do other than stare at this shithole
exotic ibex
the only problem i have with what i want to make in dusk is that it'll make pacifist non achievable.
exotic ibex
maybe i could just a real sly and subtle route out of a locked arena
willow oriole
Yeah I think most people steer away from EA and buy stuff when it's "full release".
sacred robin
What kind of fuckin' drugs were you guys on when making Episode 2
willow oriole
Personally I usually do too unless I really wnat something
jaunty meteor
I'm planning on making an entire episode, already have roughs for 3-4 maps of it
thorn trout
@exotic ibex you basically want to do serious sam in Dusk right?
frozen heart
My primary issue with EA is that it takes away from final release
jaunty meteor
I hope that it'll be easy to have an entirely new modded episode in Dusk, and I won't have to do the "subscribe to 11 different levels" crap I had to do with 20th Anniversary World Tour :B
thorn trout
@sacred robin I've never done drugs believe it or not!
fair mirage
WHAT
thorn trout
Makes me wonder what I'd come up with ON drugs
fair mirage
we need to fix that, mister
thorn trout
never been drunk either
frozen heart
Liar
willow oriole
Wowza
thorn trout
I'm super straight laced
crimson folio
q
jaunty meteor
david does a weed, and then all of his future games are completely uninspired and boring
willow oriole
You need some whiskey
jaunty meteor
you ruined him
willow oriole
Just don't have a psychotic break or somethin'
sacred robin
What were your inseprations for the labs in Episode 2?
fair mirage
😎
sacred robin
The "DONT" portal spooked the shit out of me
thorn trout
@sacred robin aesthetic from Half-life, layout inspirations from The Sword level in Thief 1
crimson folio
when are we gonna see
Dusk the comic
Dusk the movie
Dusk the series
Dusk the anime
Dusk the flamethrower
(the kids love this one)
thorn trout
there gets to be a point where stuff in Dusk is probably inspired by a bunch of stuff, but I'm not sure what
willow oriole
It'll start off as a Netflix series
frozen heart
Dusk 2: The Search for More Money
random yew
@thorn trout you probably took a lot of inspiration from Chasm didn't you
sacred robin
Never thought an FPS game would spook me like this
random yew
The bow ammo and sawblades are similar
thorn trout
like, some people are like "wow E2M6 is totally the resonance cascade from Half-life!" And I see their point, but I wasn't specifically thinking of that at all
oh yeah lots from Chasm :)
Chasm is a personal favorite
random yew
I can relate
crimson folio
Dusk: A Netflix Original Series
random yew
It's aesthetically pleasant to play
thorn trout
the crossbow ammo pickups were basically jus wholesale ripped from Chasm
random yew
The art is incredible
thorn trout
so were the turrets
rotund arch
Was it ever planned that the assault rifles would be duel wielded? They're offcenter like the shotguns and pistols
thorn trout
naw it was never planned. It's off center basically because it looks weird centered
rotund arch
delet
thorn trout
heresy
crimson folio
am i banned
willow oriole
Yes
crimson folio
dang
solar olive
non believer
wanton steppe
so i was finally able to actually get dusk downloaded but how do i get acsess to dusk world
willow oriole
Right-click it
crimson folio
i am unworthy
willow oriole
In your steam library
thorn trout
ok I'm gonna go do dishes. HAVE FUN WITH STUFF
rotund arch
It's a separate executable, it should give the option to launch either dusk or duskworld
When you click play
random yew
Duskshes
fair mirage
haha you don't have a dishwasher david
willow oriole
Even with a dishwasher you still have to clean them
It always seemed to useless to me
placid pebble
At least he not using dusk guy soap
solar olive
clean the intruders with soap
placid pebble
That will break all the plates
fair mirage
quit using shitty soap then
thrown crusted on shit in all the time
but this ain't dusk talk
fair mirage
aw
thorn trout
that's one of the hopes for Dusk: that I can afford to get a bigger house
fair mirage
well, you can use mine... if you can figure out teleportation across the country
thorn trout
because current one is 600 square feet for 6 pets, two adults, and a super energetic baby. And none of that 600 square feet was designed to work well as a small space
thorn trout
it's TINY house
coarse flint
so your house is basically the house from E1M1 except without the crazy basement
fair mirage
think your house is about as big as my brother's apt
coarse flint
damn that is small.
fair mirage
but he's got 4 adults and a toddler
thorn trout
yeah it's kind of not fun
coarse flint
yeah i imagine that does very little to help
thorn trout
@fair mirage wow
warped saffron
http://steamcommunity.com/app/519860/discussions/2/2595630410192729605/ hey this is real and now that i've read this it's bugging me too :p
sacred robin
What the hell do you do with the Crystal of Madness
graceful wing
it doesn't account for decimals at all
gleaming berry
The weapons always looked fine to me
graceful wing
98.9% becomes 98% etc.
gleaming berry
That thread is the first I'm hearing of it
crimson folio
@thorn trout oh shit someone actually came up with obvious name for a sequel
lean wolf
i will never buy dusk if its only 98%
balmy sluice
So why doesn't it say that there is 485 reviews?
gleaming berry
Uhh Dawn is the SDK
grave star
What is the problem with this 2%
crimson folio
😐 ah crap. yeah
willow oriole
Everyone knows that should be called AFTER DUSK
prisma ivy
Oh, didnt know that
crimson folio
steam kinda reworked its api and it closed off humble's integration with steam
graceful wing
reviews have a wait period before they get approved for a game's rating @balmy sluice
balmy sluice
Steam needs 500 reviews for overwhelmingly positive right?
graceful wing
it's either 500 or 1000, not quite sure
vale oar
dave said smth about 130 more to go so I guess it's 500
paper geode
500 according to one page I read
graceful wing
yup we've been up there for a couple days now 😛
paper geode
good job ^^
willow oriole
You'd think with so many people owning it now there'd be a bit more reviews
But they too busy PLAYIN
graceful wing
the percentage of players who actually write reviews for games is pretty tiny
ionic turtle
Anybody know how much damage hitting someone with your gun does?
fair mirage
same damage as the sickles i think?
prisma ivy
Like 1 lol
prisma ivy
Its weaker than sickles
ionic turtle
I know in single player it does some solid damage
willow oriole
It's like throwing a grenade at someone and pegging them with it in most games
Only useful for the hilarity not viable for much else
ionic turtle
But I've not successfully landed(or noticed I've landed) a hit in pvp
Hilariously enough the R melee has become a solid part of how I play the game
sacred robin
Gotta flip to win
thorn trout
it's less than sickles
ionic turtle
I don't suppose it's too much to ask for a damage chart from devs
Unless one exists?
Im gonna have to make my own I know it
ionic turtle
it's a start
hexed roost
It's 500 btw
rotund fossil
using any gun to melee attack i think is just a novelty / bragging right if you actually managed to frag someone lol
vale oar
Wut 500$ for bad grafix 😄
fair mirage
wait what's 500
hexed roost
scroll up
vale oar
overwhelmingly positive status
hexed roost
correct-o
vale oar
DOUBLE SMART
balmy sluice
So it's pretty close to that status once those 80+ reviews potentially get approved
fair mirage
that's the spirit!
ionic turtle
@rotund fossil it's faster for me than fiddling with sickles
Usually use it in Sp though, occasionally in mp
ionic turtle
Also idk about you but the moment I see someone with a sickle they become a hell of a lot easier of a target
Don't have to worry about getting shot
Also I demand a dusk world soap
fair mirage
i think, when there's inevitably an instagib mode, that the crossbow should become a hitscan soapbow
ionic turtle
I just realized what the crossbow's bolts are made of
fair mirage
no that's boring
fair mirage
how much work is replacing the arrow bit with a piece of soap and changing the code a bit :p
ionic turtle
For instagib I wouldn't want pen
willow oriole
Ah I see
rotund fossil
soap slingshot for instagib! hahaha
fair mirage
^ see? someone gets it
warped saffron
@gleaming berry @thorn trout ye ye the weapon alignment thing is for reals. i wish i hadn't read that thread. :p it could have always been that way... i didn't notice until i read that but it is a little un-comfy
warped saffron
left hand is a little more in, right is a little more out... s'weird
gleaming berry
LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
warped saffron
ye i uninstalled. waiting for that fix to shwo up in patch notes before i allow it on my system again
gonna be sitting here with my arms crossed and brow furrowed
fair mirage
oh man i never noticed that
probably because i usually play with .6 weaponscale lol
here i'll draw a pic for you dave
frozen heart
You know I sorta noticed this
But I assumed it was just me not paying attention during the pre alpha
And early ep 1
fair mirage
well you can see it a bit easier if you crank up the weaponscale
crimson folio
god how anally retentive must you be to notice this sort of thing
echo epoch
When you're looking at them all the time, you notice assymettry. Least I do.
fair mirage
i didn't until it was pointed out
crimson folio
@crimson folio attentive isn't the word I'd use
it's not a word i used either
oh sorry
badum tischhhhhh
i don't have my glasses on
gloomy frost
crimson folio
we can only hope
there were so many people who were hyped for the game all over various forums and comment sections under articles
it'd be nice to know they all bought a copy
i mean from way back, even before there was a public playable version
thick owl
how do i sign up for duskworld beta?
vivid cape
beta is over
formal turret
fuck me these secrets are hard to find
vivid cape
you need to buy the game
stone thistle
you buy the game
vivid cape
or wait for a key drop
for dusk
and you actually need to redeem it the fast
when dave drops them
fair mirage
eh dave doesn't post many keys for dusk anymore
better off just buying if you want in now
stone thistle
he did yesterday
thorn trout
I miss old NB Discord, when we made fun of @vague egret 's dum hat and meme banned @jade root
thick owl
yeah ill just buy it tomorrow
vague egret
its nowhere near as often as he used to. he used to drop keys multiple times a day
fair mirage
yeah
vague egret
so do i david
so do i...
stone thistle
I paid. Best spend 20 $ in 2018.
vague egret
no
hollow ivyBOT
jade root
heck
formal turret
why do items from boxes and stuff take so long to fall
and how many times have you tried to ban yourself at this point
jade root
lets not talk about pirating dusk lol
thick owl
yeah whatever, just said ill buy it tomorrow lol
jade root
thats not the best thing to say to a dev
exotic ibex
“you are a piraaate”
formal turret
you ever look for a secret for so long you get a migrane
slate edge
.fw heck
formal turret
mate if every episode costed the same price
i'd still pay for them all
because i like the game t hat much
zinc heart
Hey anybody know a god mode cheat for dusk ep 1+2?
formal turret
nbdeity
jade root
dont play on ep1+2 app anymore btw
formal turret
should i bother perma removing duskworld beta
exotic ibex
i uninstalled it
zinc heart
Thanks so much i was thinking it was iddqd but no luck
exotic ibex
it is
vague egret
DW beta app is no good anymore. uninstall it
formal turret
aight
vague egret
its just wasting space on your end
exotic ibex
it has the pre pre pre pre alpha and a game called pit
vague egret
the app id should already be removed
zinc heart
weird my game folder dosent have that "goodies" folder
exotic ibex
which one are you checking? the main dusk app or ep1+2?
graceful wing
all appids besides the main dusk one are obsolete
zinc heart
im checking my dusk game folder
jade root
do you have "Dusk Episodes 1 + 2" installed or just "Dusk" installed
graceful wing
we sent a delete request to valve so they exxtra ones should be gone soon
formal turret
graceful wing
(valve time)
zinc heart
ep 1+2
exotic ibex
i wish i had duke 3d megaton edition
jade root
install just the "DUsk" game
graceful wing
yea that means you don't actually own dusk and only had DW beta access
jade root
and uninstall "DUsk Episodes 1 + 2"
exotic ibex
it would be good if the sound quality wasn’t ass
zinc heart
i have the DUSK game folder and its just called DUSK
formal turret
does dusk have a reddit
jade root
Ep1+2 and regular DUSK game are seperate things
vague egret
no
jade root
if that makes any sense
formal turret
rip
jade root
i mean
there is a reddit
we dont moderate it tho
and its super small
like 18 people
exotic ibex
deserves more
fair mirage
*62
zinc heart
my dusk game folder is named "DUSK episode 2"
fair mirage
sad duskdude posted it earlier
willow oriole
Yeah the reddit is oddly dead
vague egret
oddly
everything happens here. a sub is redundant. which is why we didnt make it in the first place
willow oriole
I suppose
jade root
@zinc heart okay, pay attention to me. Uninstall "Dusk Episodes 1 + 2" on steam and just install "Dusk" on steam okay? you wont get the goddies folder from "Dusk EPisode 1 + 2"
exotic ibex
bruh
willow oriole
Bad idea
zinc heart
dang i guess ill just use a txt document to remeber nbdeity cheat
i know about idkfa though
i really only use idkfa and NOW im going to use nbdeity
with it as well
formal turret
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
willow oriole
I mean that’s cool but you should prolly still buy the game
zinc heart
no thanks ima cheapo and try to save money
exotic ibex
smh
obtuse apex
delete system 32
exotic ibex
kids these days
zinc heart
Dusk is still pretty good i may buy it we its fully released
obtuse apex
ban
crimson folio
buy it now lol
exotic ibex
buy it now
jaunty meteor
Pretty shameless IMO to play a dev's game then tell them on their own discord "hey your game is pretty good. i may buy it eventually"
obtuse apex
rule 8!
zinc heart
i dont mean to be rude i just will buy it fully released i dont trust the "early access" steam games anymore
exotic ibex
you can trust dusk tho
i bought the game back in October and i don’t regret giving my money to nb
hexed roost
I will say this, be careful. Because you never know what someone is sneaking into your non-official builds. Think about all those kids who found razor blades in their candy!
balmy sluice
If he wants to wait its no big deal. It's only going to be in EA for a few months anyway
crimson folio
it's not EA like other games where game systems aren't completely implemented
obtuse apex
ill buy u dusk deathrunner
crimson folio
for the most part
fair mirage
uh
crimson folio
it's literally practically the same except for levels and bugfuxes
fair mirage
mostly unfinished duskworld
jaunty meteor
As someone who is enjoying DuskWorld quite a bit, I would be surprised if anyone has bought Dusk solely because of it
hexed roost
you'd be surprised, MP nerds do exist
zinc heart
really wiiu420? that would be awesome i loved whatching gggmanlives review it and the games pretty cool
obtuse apex
whats ur steam
exotic ibex
icarus and gggman is the reason i bought dusk
zinc heart
i dont remeber ima check it right now BRB
crimson folio
reminder i have eternal dusk bragging rights as the first customer
pale ibex
how does the audio work in dusk?
zinc heart
OH its the same as my discord name thedeathrunner123
frozen heart
It comes out of your speakers
pale ibex
yes, I was wondering about the backend
jade root
sometimes it comes out of your headphones
crimson folio
unity shit
pale ibex
I'm trying to get it running in wine
crimson folio
whatever unity uses by default I guess
coarse flint
I tried DW exactly once but i couldn't work anything out cause it was FFA
crimson folio
what do you mean work it out
coarse flint
I had no idea what was going on really
obtuse apex
pm me ur profile link
crimson folio
tbh tdk and ctf will be a lot more digestible
jaunty meteor
Just gotta kill the boys and try to kill more boys than anyone else
zinc heart
what does that mean (sorry im not good with all the techish stuff but love video games)
does it mean like the steam web link for my profile?
obtuse apex
yes
zinc heart
KK copy and pasteing now
ionic turtle
Like a squad of duskbros against the armies of the damned
jaunty meteor
Reverse CTF please
ionic turtle
Reverse ctf? You mean like a base assault sorta thing
obtuse apex
ur set to private
ionic turtle
What if there was a rotating objective based game mode called feed the machine, where different stipulations and set ups would come in as the round progressed. Like a party game for blood crazed twitch shooter players.
fresh onyx
the games going to be fully moddable
ionic turtle
time for me to learn how to mod boios
fresh onyx
so how robust all the multiplayer modes will just depend on if theres a community that plays it
crimson folio
one flag ctf is the shit
fair mirage
What about a pve multi-player? How doable would that be
coop campaign is planned for post-launch
ionic turtle
Yeeeeeeeee
ionic turtle
I kinda meant like a boss rush though, that'd be cool
fresh onyx
im excited for the sdk
fair mirage
@prisma halo's bustin' his ass tryin to make the SDK as robust and powerful as he can
ionic turtle
If I didn't just get a job Id devote my time to learning how to mod just for dusk xD
obtuse apex
ur level 0 bro, cant add ya
fresh onyx
theres already going to be so much content
im making some maps in trenchbroom for quake 1 to get used to it
zinc heart
im a f2p gamer i dont really pay for things i dont exactly have a lot of money
fair mirage
^ speaking of which, trenchbroom is the recommended map tool as of right now
placid pebble
We can't add f2p before?
And also installing trechbroom
Want to make aerowalk dusk style
fair mirage
you and probably other mappers :p
ionic turtle
You have to have spent ten dollars on steam
fair mirage
iirc one of the first test maps for DW was a bootleg aerowalk
zinc heart
nope its at least 5 not 10
placid pebble
5$ it's the least
zinc heart
thats also a problem because HELLO ima kid with no allowance
placid pebble
As a latinamerican player that sucks
ionic turtle
Ah
placid pebble
But, u are for US?
coarse flint
prisma ivy
First duskworld map was aerowalk lol
coarse flint
:D
placid pebble
Dat speed
If u are in US 5$ it's Easy peasy
Gonna beat ya heretic
(when I got a good pc and learn campaing)
zinc heart
im a kid that doesn't get an allowance which means i dont get money really for anything till Christmas or my birthday (two days after Christmas)
zinc heart
im only a teen
jade root
i was working at age 15
zinc heart
im 13
obtuse apex
jobs r for slaves
placid pebble
U can sell something to a friend
zinc heart
thats cash i cant use that for steam
placid pebble
Swap the money for gift card I dunno
placid pebble
There it's place where u can swap cash for PayPal money I trink
zinc heart
theres tax for about $1 more dor what the giftcards worth
placid pebble
I not US so don't know xD
ionic turtle
Excuses
You can get games, not eating lunch for a week is easy when it means a game to play for years
zinc heart
i get free lunches at my school
vague egret
better yet, this server isnt for financial advice. take it to DMs
placid pebble
The unreal map
zinc heart
why not try to map face classic from UT2004 into dusk?
vague egret
its been thought of and likely might get added by the community
cant really use licensed maps
thats how you get sued
dim valve
you can't use licensed IPs, you can only insert hamfisted title drops to them in your game's launch trailer
placid pebble
Well, in many arena and free games
It's the same map, only with small tweaks and different A E S T E T I C H S
Like I played so many versions of cs and quake maps
zinc heart
well bye i really only came for the nbdeity cheat. didnt whant to cause any arguements. I just like cheatin in SP games
placid pebble
That not a bad thing
dim valve
did someone seriously put a delet this on my truth bomb?
crimson folio
Ok guys, anyone who's using j.a.c.k. , how do i access worldspawn entity?
placid pebble
When I was kid I cheated a lot in half life xD
crimson folio
oh nvm, it's literally "map properties"
dim valve
this isn't half-life 2 dm
crimson folio
@dim valve can be done as an easter egg
zinc heart
SAME HERE I CHEAT 24/7 in half life (black mesa really)
dim valve
david szymanski does not have the money to clear any references like that dude
also
geez
exotic ibex
🤔
zinc heart
hank what are you confusled at
zinc heart
but Why Though?
atomic egret
exotic ibex
i lost my brain when i became a skelly
zinc heart
makes sense
balmy sluice
also drugs
exotic ibex
LOTS of drugs
dim valve
i think it was directed at me saying it costs money to clear references, but it's true
you think family guy can make all those cutaways for free?
exotic ibex
my bones are 1/3rd hashish
dim valve
like most of the budget goes towards clearing the m&ms likeness
obtuse apex
uhhh
zinc heart
I see now thats why all the skellys in games are super slow and not threating (except the ones in painkiller there B.S.)
vague egret
kinda getting off topic again
obtuse apex
dim valve
it had to do with inserting copyrighted maps into dusk though
david can't just put e1m1 into dusk without paying id royalties
the days of nuclear winter are long gone
the best he can do are parodies
like e1m2
vague egret
i think we get it 😉
for the sake of conversation, lets get back to the usual dusk stuff
zinc heart
Sorry lain im trying to think of DUSK related topics
woeful sonnet
Does anybody have that ducks version of the box art
placid pebble
So, u are a girly man
pure breach
I HAVE SLAIN BIG JOHN
Sleep tight you beautiful bastard
Even in death he mockingly laughed at me
placid pebble
I hope he return on other fps
Dusk 2
Now with doble doble barrel and more hell maps
ionic turtle
Im personally a fan of the industrial looking maps
gleaming berry
E2M7 is the Skylab
E2M6 is the reactor
E2M5 is the one we dont talk about
Dr Memes access only
pure frost
damn
coarse flint
E2M5 is fine if you don't acknowledge the boss fight
woeful sonnet
e2m5 is the best level
sacred robin
Apparently you can telefrag the Guradian
balmy sluice
Yeah, its pretty funny if you pull it off
sacred robin
I was kinda confused when Hand Cannon played when there was nothing lol
sacred robin
Forgot what it even was
fair mirage
spam rivets and finish that bitch off with a ssg blast
sacred robin
OH
balmy sluice
S O A P
ionic turtle
My point being I had to cheese it rather than fight it
fair mirage
little bit
ionic turtle
Wasn't the highlight of the map
fair mirage
it took me a while only cos i kept getting blown up by barrels
fair mirage
either my own fault or i dodge a rocket and there happens to be one behind me
ionic turtle
I kinda wanna see a retro shooter with the whole superhot-esque bullet time
Or braid if you remember that
balmy sluice
David is luring us into this false sense of security with being able to cheese the bosses. Ep3 is going to come and we'll have to actually try.
coarse flint
I hated the boss fight in E2M5 because i thought you had to beat 'em
ionic turtle
Lol
coarse flint
the map's a lot more fun when you just skip the boss entirely
ionic turtle
Yeah
Hell dodging the boss to get the key is funner than fighting it
Wall climbing boss fight when?
coarse flint
Just shoot the button from across the room, grab the key, and hope to hell she doesn't fire while you're in there
Buttons are my main problem with like, trying to speedrun that level
because like it's possible to shoot all of the buttons, but in an IL run, you only start with the super shotgun.
And trying to hit buttons with that is inconsistent.
ionic turtle
And level design
fair mirage
so uh, are you still going through ep2
sacred robin
I just finished it
fair mirage
tech?
exotic ibex
just finished the pre pre pre pre alpha
sick lintel
guys i think i found dusk easter egg
red gale
"heavy breathing"
echo epoch
Most levels
exotic ibex
where'd you find that pic?
red gale
yo i made it i draw good
exotic ibex
holy shit, nice
red gale
yo i should make the dusk comic it'd be dope
exotic ibex
yeah
fair mirage
(that guy's making the dusk comic that'll be in the deluxe/collector's editions)
obtuse apex
gottem
sacred robin
Yeah that one I like
willow oriole
I reinstalled stalker soc and cop today
ionic turtle
@fair mirage yes I'm still in episode 2
fair mirage
wellll, you should keep going
ionic turtle
I've only had the game a few days now, and I've had work and school
willow oriole
I mostly just wanted to scratch the itch that EFT kind of does but anyways this is dusk so hey dusk rocks
ionic turtle
Didn't even touch it yet today
willow oriole
Esp ep2
fair mirage
mainly because of the thing you said about the bullet time thingy
willow oriole
You can beat the episodes in a sitting
fair mirage
i've said too much already so i should shut up
fair mirage
oh
ionic turtle
It's why I brought it up
I want to see a bullet hell retro shooter built around the concept
bleak karma
I've been able to get Low Tech, Untouchable and Pacifist achievements on stages, but what's the 4th? Is it something to do with the soap?
bleak karma
ah, so it's impossible to get all achievements in 1 run, I imagine?
bleak karma
huh? but how? Isn't pacifist not killing anybody?
mild ginkgo
infighting, and reflecting attacks
bleak karma
oh my god.
willow oriole
You can reflect attacks?
bleak karma
it sounds kinda boring, though, to try getting them all in 1 run.
mild ginkgo
yes
bleak karma
projectiles only, right?
obtuse apex
with da curvy swods
mild ginkgo
well everything but rats shoot projectiles
bleak karma
@obtuse apex you mean the sickles? xD
mild ginkgo
so its not like thats very exclusive
parry the projectiles
channel your inner daigo
bleak karma
can't really do it with the chainsaw cultists, though
you could reflect the fireballs at them
balmy sluice
It makes a cool little sound when you do it too
mild ginkgo
oh yeah, yeah its not bad for them
obtuse apex
dusk is sick and creative, the mvci of fps games
exotic ibex
^
willow oriole
This year looks boring for mainstream games compared to last year
God damn last year was insane
obtuse apex
max said its as good as cvs2 so it must be high praise
exotic ibex
only games i played last year was re7 and dusk
fair mirage
cvs is capcom vs snk yeah
obtuse apex
yes
willow oriole
No it’s a pharmacy
fair mirage
you're a pharmacy
fair mirage
DON'T
real creek
Don’t?
balmy sluice
I still wish the music would turn off when you come back through
real creek
Straight out of doom
willow oriole
Half life boyo
bleak karma
god damn, this keyboard is driving me nuts. The A key keeps getting jammed
fair mirage
clean the jizz out of it m8
merry kite
This year is anything but boring
X4, pillars 2, nwn enhanced, system shock remake, monster Hunter world
And dusk obviously
Maybe even mount and blade 2
willow oriole
None of that sounds remotely interesting to me really tbh
Monster Hunter maybe but PC version won’t be out until the end of the year
merry kite
Most games tend to come out towards the end of the year
Oh thea 2 is 2018 as well
I think I'm gonna have to quit my job
willow oriole
Think I’m gonna sift through my backlog and play new indies like this and Amid Evil
willow oriole
Yeah that I do think will be sweet on PC
merry kite
If even 30% of those games live up to expectations it'll be enough to make this a great year
Dusk already has
gleaming berry
balmy sluice
Oh shit, I didnt know DraQu picked up dusk
exotic ibex
if only i was that fast
exotic ibex
ikr
fair mirage
and AE
wanton steppe
coarse flint
i find it weird that i don't know DraQu as a speedrunner i just know him as someone who talked in the Reflex discord for a little bit.
dim valve
didn't we meme about the dusk subreddit earlier today?
faint coral
Is there anyway to bind weapons to the scroll wheel up and down?
It doesn't seem to be working
coarse flint
i don't think that's possible, i've heard of people doing stuff with scroll wheel but you gotta use autohotkey for it
fair mirage
iirc that's a thing that they're working on
faint coral
ah I see
rotund arch
we need 4 alt fires on each weapon
woeful sonnet
AND QUAD WIELDING QUAD SHOTGUNS!!!!
rotund arch
that way i can feel good about putting money into a mouse with completly useless totally important extra buttons
woeful sonnet
EACH INDIVIDUALLY BOUND!
fair mirage
scuse me
extra mouse buttons are super useful
if you use 'em
push to talk without stretching fingers
mild ginkgo
Next patch will have m3+m4
balmy sluice
👀
fair mirage
i bind 'em to weapons in quake 'n' such
noble pond
having a whole keypad on your mouse is actually dope as fuck, just haven't found a mouse like that where the tracking is as good as other mice
rotund arch
have you tried the razer deathadder?
fair mirage
AND back and forth in browsers and that good stuff
noble pond
er the naga?
fair mirage
also, sweet
noble pond
i have two buttons like the DA has, but when i had the naga it felt fine till i got a new mouse and it felt so much smoother than the naga did
fair mirage
was wondering why sp can bind but not dw
rotund arch
cant wait for all those juicy weapon mods that add 5 alt fire rocket launchers that shoot flaming puppies and big johns
placid pebble
i just done EP1 now
that second experiment screw me over
like, yeah, i wasted all the ammo in that dog
jaunty meteor
I'm glad the Dusk speedrunning community is largely doing inbounds runs
Way better to watch than the early OOB stuff
coarse flint
I can't be bothered to do OOB
the propsurfing stuff is interesting but i can't do it on account i'm too lazy to use autohotkey to make my scroll wheel my use button.
and also my scroll wheel isn't one of the really free spinning ones
so that wouldn't be particularly useful
coarse flint
because doors and buttons slow you down
teal bramble
shoot em
teal bramble
🤔 you can shoot buttons in m1
coarse flint
I've had way too many issues with not being able to hit fucking buttons
teal bramble
e1
coarse flint
well that doesn't particularly help the fact that i can't do it consistently in E2M5
you know where there's like 3
coarse flint
i don't even know what map you're referring to.
thin sphinx
what level is the ep2 dopefish in?
noble pond
the machine part
coarse flint
but yeah the labs have a lot of annoying instances where i wanna try hitting buttons but i can't due to RNG shotgun spread
thin sphinx
sounds like e2m4 if it is the mass sacrafice machine
noble pond
so what's the dusk-dude scale in trenchbroom?
exotic ibex
should be pinned somewhere in the duskworld channel
thin sphinx
hmmm any extra tips for the dopefish?
hexed roost
noble pond
i see a picture of some rangers
yeah that
i don't quite understand though, duskdude is two playerstarts tall, or is, um what
noble pond
so it is two player starts, ok
exotic ibex
thats the size of duskdude in quake rangers