That tripped me up at first too, I thought it would give me the loadout I currently had in SP
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
sullen carbon
But, bottom right I believe, you can select which guns you want to spawn with, and how much ammo for each
formal turret
ah i see
im surpsied worthabuy likes this game
because hes an asshole who hates every good game
echo epoch
This made me laugh my ass off
sullen carbon
Lmao
willow oriole
Is there a wallpaper of the chainsaw dudes
teal bramble
Take a screenie
tawdry shore
i was just checking to see if there's any invisibility cheat to take screenshots
not in the goodies folder 😦
prisma halo
to hide the weapon or something?
tawdry shore
so the monsters aren't aggro'd
teal bramble
Go into settings
prisma halo
ah
prisma halo
so you want a notarget cheat
teal bramble
prisma halo
yeah there's nothing like that unfortunately
teal bramble
dusk is trash
prisma halo
not in the current public branch anyway
tawdry shore
might have to refund then
teal bramble
doom clone
prisma halo
you can modify the assemblies to disable AI if you really need it
crimson folio
Dusk multiplayer is as hard nails as quake 3 arena one. Mostly because it's populated by q3 vets right now
tawdry shore
yeah im looking at making some dusk shirts for myself, and without the art files released yet, wanted to get some good angles of the monsters etc.
crimson folio
Hope TDM, CTF and ice tag (as well as kill confirmed) are coming
teal bramble
a 7 mam game
crimson folio
ice tag is always a lot of fun when team works in tandem
ill take domination as well
crimson folio
nooooo.
dim valve
Only killstreak we need: DOUBLE KILL! MULTI-KILL! HOLY SHIT!!!
crimson folio
this is classic weapon-spawn game. no need to spoil it with mechanic from weapon loadout game
teal bramble
exp levels
crimson folio
I already mentioned that
[5:13 AM] smoke_th: @El Oshcuro please see if david can finish that
[5:14 AM] smoke_th: Also loot drops are weird. Eterial weapons drop more often but you cannot repair them so it leaves you naked on the battlefield half of the time.``` and that
```[5:31 AM] smoke_th: But no, seriously, rebalance drop rates for christ sake. I cannot go out to e2m5 without getting my teeth beaten out almost immediately. i need something more serious than a goddamn poisoner set there``` i think that's enough of an input for exp systems
crimson folio
actually, here is a problem with classic multiplayer. It is inherently boring for anyone who's not interested in just building their skill, which let's face it - is an age depandant thing when it comes to reflexes.
Best champions in multiplayer reflex-based games are teens age 16-21. then reflexed become gradually becomes worse and worse.
Modern shooters like call of duty mitigated that by adding weapon and achievment progressions.
willow oriole
I tried to make the sens the same as my CS one but my god I have to fling my arm around so much
crimson folio
so while you are a cannon fodder for skilled players - you still enjoy working your way towards next gun or achievement or kill streak or what have you
some mods for doom mitigated that even more ingeniously - to example -
All out war: the second coming is essentially C&C Renegade - you build up base pontential, can apply tactical skills and in the end reflexes are only half of the battle there.
Zdoom wars is indirect destruction where you get a class from classic doom game and spawn mosters while collecting more mana to upgrade monsters and unlock new ones - it's pretty much a very basic rts but one with great progression.
Then there is a slew of wave defense mods. Shotgun frenzy to example, where you not only build up your base and unlock weapons - but do so in order to survive even more harder waves of enemies (in base defense portion of it) or just work your way and buy weapons directly from stocks using kill counter (in non-base portion of it)
Or - COOP with completely new sets of rules - like complex doom where it's 5 lives for the level, one shot deaths from almost every monster. and you compete in learning how to move, but it's more methodical rather than pure reflexes.
@thorn trout you think you can add at the very least basic multiplayer wave defense?
tawdry shore
make your own endless mode map with lots of barrells to move around ;D?
bold dawn
yea with the sdk, who knows what will happen
crimson folio
or just plain coop. To example - good ol' Alien Vendetta is still popular for coop runs in doom multiplayer. it's hard as nails on your own, but is designed for player respawns and gradually overwhelming enemies, so it's fun
tawdry shore
i wonder if we'll see the soap in multiplayer. soap instagib mode?
crimson folio
not instagib
First thing i'm doing when i get my hands on sdk is i'm doing a test wave defense mod with coin drops to purchase modded weapons on the fly.
that oughtta be lots of fun in multiplayer. i'll even setup a patreon for that thing 😄
thorn trout
we're going to look at coop stuff post launch
stray jetty
is there a area where I can submit map bugs?
echo epoch
Steam forums
stray jetty
k
teal niche
prisma halo
Yeah it was renamed
crimson folio
Dusk sucessfully shilled for another friend
makes more sense. idkfa - id software killer f'ing ammo, nb kfa would probably stand for new blood killer f'ing ammo
tawdry finch
Anyone wanna start the Cult of Big John with me
bold dawn
yes
tawdry finch
Awesome
crimson folio
Honestly, we need at least total biscuit to roll out a wtf is dusk. He usually pushes good amount of sales.
tawdry finch
My god Jim Sterling played it
He was the final nail in the coffin on me buying the game
bold dawn
jimfucking sterlingson*
crimson folio
jimmy jim jim's video didn't help much. dusk right now is at 14-15k sales. John's videos usually push games into hundreds of thousands of sales
crimson folio
Yes please
bold dawn
binyot yes
thorn trout
@crimson folio have they lately though? I haven't really kept up. I know that in general sales on Steam are nowhere near what they were even a few years ago for average games
crimson folio
@thorn trout You are too humble, my dude. You created IDTech2-IDTech3 game which feels like romero gave it a spin
gleaming berry
TB prob won't make a Dusk video til full launch
crimson folio
it is above strafe in quality.
hell, there weren't many retro-shooters which captured the drive so good in past decade
gleaming berry
So far so good!
willow oriole
Yeah I don't think TB normally does EA
gleaming berry
CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE GOOD WORD
crimson folio
@gleaming berry i'm trying Mr. Macmahon. I'm trying.
thorn trout
well thanks :)
willow oriole
Hey I already convinced my other DOOM LOVIN FRIEND
gleaming berry
I'm gonna ask TB if we can quote his Tweet on the store page lol
willow oriole
He's like "dude, the game is awesome" in response to Episode 1 so he's gonna fuckin' die when he gets to 2
gleaming berry
"DUSK IS FUCKING GREAT"
crimson folio
i do wanna see vinesauce tearing into dusk because for some reason - they attract a shitton of more legitemately introverted/###istic audience. I don't know how the hell vinny manages to grab their attention so good but he does. And those are sales of introverts which are universally driven by suggestions and never by word of mouth.
bold dawn
of all quotes that is choice
gleaming berry
Dusk has been all word of mouth. Which is great. Because it's legit.
Thanks to you guys
prisma halo
use the zero-width joiner character to uncensor the swear word 😏
crimson folio
oh yeah
echo epoch
Vinny's already played it and he's garbage, ofc. Joel needs to, he'd love it. Same for Ben Croshaw.
crimson folio
good thing starting weapon is pair of sickles then
@echo epoch zero punctuation review gonna be amazing. i already can hear the snark.
verbal token
There will be brown on brown on brown jokes as well, and a comment about daddy quake doing the same thing
echo epoch
"Dusk is a game where you play as Dusk Dude, a man intent on fighting the clan who accidentally put cocaine in his coffee maker this morning"
jaunty meteor
@crimson folio "jim's video didn't help, dusk is at 14-15k sales"
And it was at 7k prior, I'd say doubling sales is helping a fuckton
crimson folio
Well, yeah, but for game of this caliber anything below 100k considered a failure in marketing
jaunty meteor
Keep in mind this is a niche sort of game, it's not going to get millions of sales right off the bat
Err, I'm not sure where you heard that number from
gleaming berry
Lol the game has been out for 3 days
jaunty meteor
New Blood aren't beholden to a publisher like EA, they don't have to meet a sales quota to continue breathing
crimson folio
cocking Else heart.break() sold over 300k copies in first 2 months. and that is a hacking game which not many dumb fps pew pewers gonna play.
gleaming berry
100k sales
That's our goal for the year rofl
Bro what planet you living on
But hey would be nice
echo epoch
Not to mention like half the game's budget was probably Dave going to PAX AUS lmfao
: )
crimson folio
@gleaming berry if progression continues on going, and i don't see the reason it wouldn't, you should have at least 150k sales closer to the middle of february. just make sure you keep networking youtubers which aren't afraid to poke early access
jaunty meteor
You should count your blessings that an incomplete EA game has gotten as much exposure as it has already, especially since many of these big youtubers have already made 2/3 videos on it
gleaming berry
We are very happy with how things are going :)
gleaming berry
Also don't forget the game is in Early Access.
We don't want to blow our load before full launch
crimson folio
yeah, some of the best indie games had most of their sales in early access tho
gleaming berry
Steady as she goes 🙏
jaunty meteor
Dusk isn't a typical EA game, you shouldn't apply another game's success in EA to it
crimson folio
@jaunty meteor points at delver
echo epoch
Yeah Dusk is kind of its own thing when it comes to development and release lol
peak bramble
this tournament idea is certainly gonna help. get some footage of some reaaally good matches to float around and that'll convince lots of people to jump in im sure
gleaming berry
Oh man is Delver ever coming out?
crimson folio
No idea
jaunty meteor
It's not like prison architect where the base game is more or less there from day 1 and everything else added afterwards only sweetens the deal, 1/3rd of the game just doesn't exist yet; expecting it to get the fanfare of a finished and released game is a bit silly
crimson folio
shareware release? i think it was fully out mail order on day one
crimson folio
yeaaaah
gleaming berry
Dusk is going to have a LONG life
peak bramble
no doubt
gleaming berry
We see it as more of a Killing Floor type of game. Updates and updates and mods and mods
jaunty meteor
That'd be the ideal, I know I'll definitely be trying hard with SP content
echo epoch
Mods, mods, mods, mods. That's your ambrosia
Can't wait to see what Zombie and everyone pulls off
gleaming berry
Yeah once the SDK and Workshop is out
crimson folio
@gleaming berry that i have my doubts about. I really hope David, zombie and rest of the supporting crew can create same level of moddability like Zdoom currently has.
In that case it will at least have 3 to 5 years of estimated longevity, as community which forms around is what will drive player retntion forward. Anything beyond that is gonna be interesting to see.
gleaming berry
It's gonna be Wild
peak bramble
yea mods are def key for longevity. that shit kept half-life going for aaages ofc
cant wait for that
echo epoch
smoke where on earth are you getting these numbers lol
gleaming berry
I mean @crimson folio 3-5 years is a LOT lol
gleaming berry
Haha
crimson folio
😁
gleaming berry
Nothing will ever be DOOM
We don't wanna be Doom
We just wanna be DUSK
so far so good :)
echo epoch
Most games never really die. People still play Operation Flashpoint sometimes. They do dim out, though.
peak bramble
a nice goal to shoot for
obtuse apex
Dusk will live for 74 years and die happily married with 4 kids and 7 grandchildren
crimson folio
Actually something might be. First holodeck shooter which will have moddability will probably live at least 15 years
echo epoch
xD
obtuse apex
dont worry about numbers tbh, just play and live in the moment
crimson folio
As a player yes, as someone who's selling the damn thing - you do need to worry 'bout numbers
echo epoch
Yeah and all those sales and longevity figures are entirely arbitrary, especially right now
tawdry finch
I hate you guys for getting my quake fanboyness back to 100
I hate you guys SO MUCH I HAD THIS QUARENTINED
crimson folio
@tawdry finch welcome back then...?
cerulean sun
its not quake fanboyism its DUSK fanboyism
verbal token
Did you not play Arcane Dimensions to keep the fire burning?
crimson folio
no it is very much quake fanboyism. It's in the same vein of quake 2, hexen 2, heavy metal fakk 2 and unreal selling from the initial high orbital kick of quake. Dusk is in same vein as those games both by gameplay and fun
verbal token
I skipped Champs
tawdry finch
I still have a little pewter figurine you got for pre-ordering DOOM 3
crimson folio
Ah yes. Doom 3. Last ID game to feature correct multiplayer
tawdry finch
You didnt miss much Bee
verbal token
Yeah I saw footage. Heroes and more hitscan. Yay?
peak bramble
i didnt even know doom 3 had mp lol
crimson folio
Oh it did. and it was fun. Like legitemately fun. Almost fun as multiplayer of daikatana
but not quite
verbal token
I kinda wanna rope some people into playing Daikatana MP. Co-op was trash though and SP is worse
echo epoch
Swiggity mineral, this looks like #bnnuy-and-the-jits
crimson folio
I'm not even joking or being sarcastic. Daikatana legitemately has godly multiplayer
it's where the actual meat of the game lies in
tawdry finch
That doesnt even rhyme
nice try
Or am i too southern to sound it out right
Either way, DUSK
tawdry shore
QC was fun for a week, dusk just has that special sauce. The insane speed, meatiness of the weapons
verbal token
The speed is what really does it for me
tawdry finch
I dont know what just clicked for me in dusk
crimson folio
oh yeah. Weapons have punch and pace to them. Shooting SSG is fun again. it wasn't even fun in quake 3 to be honest.
thorn trout
I was gonna say, not sure if sarcastic or not but Daikatana is actually my favorite afps. Not joking.
verbal token
I like sailing through a room sideways at 300k blasting people with rockets
thorn trout
It's flawed but so much fun
crimson folio
Oh yeah
jade root
plz note
tawdry finch
Ive heard 50/50 on it so much
jade root
david has a weird taste
crimson folio
When romero said he's gonna make you his bitch - he meant Multiplayer of it.
verbal token
What weapon set would you recommend though?
crimson folio
😄
thorn trout
yeah the fact that I like it should make you run away screaming tbh
I have weird taste
jade root
if he likes something means you should be caustiously optimistic about it
thorn trout
^^^
verbal token
Cuz there's 4 or 5 of them
obtuse apex
do u like dusk
jade root
david hates dusk
crimson folio
Chasm is an odd ass game. i tried it. it feels like quake zero. With splashes of strife here and there
obtuse apex
🤔
stone thistle
when you use the official Daikatana 1.3 project patches the game becomes a lot better
crimson folio
where? because i sure haven't found where it is godly
obtuse apex
the david hate of approval
tawdry shore
Have you bought dusk David?
thorn trout
Chasm is super weird yeah. I have too much nostalgia for it to judge objectively, but I always have fun when I boot it up
jade root
I enjoyed the shit out of it
tawdry finch
What was tribes about anyway
jade root
through and through
tawdry finch
I never got to that
bold dawn
tribes was life
verbal token
Tribes was almost gonna be a proto sci fi battlefield and then they discovered skiing
crimson folio
@tawdry finch hoverboarding while screaming "i'm the greatest". Shooting is optional
verbal token
And it basically changed the course of the whole franchise
tawdry finch
Sounds like i missed out
tawdry shore
New game midair is tribes remake in EA
thorn trout
@tawdry finch quick Daikatana elevator pitch: instal patch 1.3, turn off AI sidekicks, go in understanding that Ep1 is a rough trial by fire and ep2/ep3 are the real fun. Multiplayer is a good time if you can get some friends together on voice chat.
crimson folio
that's tribes ascend. older tribes games were much weirder
tawdry finch
I will keep that in mind and look for it. Thanks!
verbal token
I hated the Greece levels and that's where I stopped tbh
thorn trout
welp, if you hate those levels pretty safe assumption you'll hate the entire game :P
best episode imo
crimson folio
Are you sure we're not talking about will rock?
thorn trout
the difficulty curve in Daikatana is so weirdly borked
verbal token
The weapons just felt really awkward and unappealing. Level design was neat though
crimson folio
because THAT's a criminally overlooked game
thorn trout
ep1 is hard as balls, everything afterwards is a cakewalk
crimson folio
despite pretty much being serious sam in greece
crimson folio
thorn trout
@verbal token yeah Daikatana has some SUPER cool brush-based locale design
stone thistle
Will Rock - the b-movie Serious Sam
tawdry finch
Everything was b-movie in the good days
My first pc game that i actually finished was Unreal
crimson folio
Does anyone know a way to get into coding for beginners?
tawdry finch
That was a trip
verbal token
This is bringing me back to my one wish though- that painkiller had proper level layouts instead of room corridor room
tawdry finch
Id find some classes online or something, Noice
verbal token
Actually that comes behind a single player campaign for CPMA but it's a more realistic dream
crimson folio
Ok i'll try and find some online classes
@crimson folio yeah. The internet. i self-educated. If you want objectively best crash course right now try shenzhen i/o. it gives you basics assembly language and algorithmic thinking.
albeit now that i'm thinking about it it's not that good for complete newbies, except if you like puzzle games. then you'll be able to transition to problem solving. Otherwise - there are online classes yeah
crimson folio
yeah and i spent countless hours on it.
really gives you appreciation for microcoding on assembly
Alright thanks guys
verbal token
With coding it depends on where you wanna go with it and how much you care about the details
crimson folio
Well it's my dream to be a video game developer since i was 6
scratch that - the damn thing (coupled witth TIS-100) teaches you basics of assembly. and yes, it is a simple as professionals say
tawdry finch
Everything starts with a dream, you just gotta get out there bud!
verbal token
Every SE or vet programmer I've talked to in the studios I've worked at has vouched for C->C++
tawdry finch
Prime age to start learning
crimson folio
I always liked the idea of being able to create almost anything on a virtual world
jeez. yeah. you might actually get more proficient at it at this age. i started at the age 19 and had some initial trouble but it clicked later regardless
bold dawn
should i rub lotion on skin
tawdry finch
No hose for you
You know ive seen that movie so many times and i still dont FUCKING UNDERSTAND IT
stone thistle
rubbing lotion on skin should give you an extra speed boost 😄
bold dawn
sveet
bold dawn
i dont have a hose anyway
stone thistle
no but it would be cool if it would
stone thistle
😄
tawdry finch
Hoses are just long sinks
crimson folio
tawdry finch
n0b do you know about the basketball
bold dawn
nyet
tawdry finch
he doesnt know about the basketball
bold dawn
after 16 hours of playing i thought it would be a good idea to play sp
toxic wadi
i have convinced everyone in my friend group to buy dusk
tawdry finch
You're doing gods work
shrewd mango
nice
crimson folio
Dusk is possibly one of the best games i've played
toxic wadi
is there a leatherneck variant of the DuskNightmare wallpaper?
echo epoch
My best friend isn't much of a PC gamer, but he loves Arnold Schwarzenegger. I had to show him the Big John fight, he bought it afterwards.
Lucas, not that I'm aware of (at least a full size one), but I'm sure it'll happen.
stone thistle
can't resist Big John
echo epoch
Only ones I've seen are pretty small
crimson folio
I hope this game gets a lot of People backing it
@echo epoch your own doesn't count.
echo epoch
What?
crimson folio
John, Johnson, Mickey and few others are euphemisms for dick
dim valve
He's talking about your 🇧 enis dude
echo epoch
What?
crimson folio
Some riveter shots were shot
crimson folio
dim valve
cringy indeed
crimson folio
And they were Directs
echo epoch
What?
willow oriole
What in the butt
prisma ivy
hollow ivyBOT
tawdry finch
General for is for girly men
Dusk is for Big Johns
OH MY GOD CAN WE MAKE A CHAD MEME FOR BIG JOHN
Virgin cultist vs Chad Soldier
restive barn
can i just say i'm only twenty years old
is playing dusk what it was like to play doom when it was new because omg this game is creepy
tawdry finch
DOOM and Quake still have some freaky moments, but DUSK is just ambience gold
Id say yes? and no
DOOM never really scared me, it was just those godawful MONSTER CLOSETS
restive barn
i feel that one
echo epoch
Dusk is actually a fantastic horror game. Doom really tried to be, Quake nailed the atmosphere in a lot of places, but even with running at 75MPH and spinning dual 1887s, Dusk is a better FPS horror game for a first time play than most the ones I've played lately.
prisma ivy
David got a lot of practice with his other games :)
obtuse apex
the ghost in the mines made me cry =-(
prisma ivy
lmao
prisma ivy
One of my friends legit stopped playing at that point
obtuse apex
lmao
tawdry finch
Its so cute though
prisma ivy
Im like, it's face is literally a :O
tawdry finch
its just a little 👻
prisma ivy
I really want to see his reaction to the wendigo
tawdry shore
wendigo still gives me chills when i hear the violin sound
tawdry finch
The part that gave me a legit heartattack was the exit fakeout with the two ghost girls
restive barn
the thing keeping me going is the hope there are more moments like the first level, just cathartic massacring an ambush
this game is a heart attack so far from then on
tawdry finch
Have you gone to the ruins yet
restive barn
only on 1.5
obtuse apex
hey Dave can u add slenderman
tawdry finch
So you havent been to the ruins?
prisma ivy
Slenderman is saved for ep3
echo epoch
Do yourselves a favor and check out the pre-pre-pre-alpha and Pit in your goodies folder.
tawdry finch
I dont know prism, talking about wendigos and then you bringing up that
restive barn
fear and english dont mix
tawdry finch
I feel like this is a trap
echo epoch
Pit is fucking scary
tawdry finch
God help me im gonna check it out
echo epoch
I didn't know they were in there, either.
prisma ivy
If you didn't get to play the pre alpha back in the day it may be fun to run through it.
It's come a LONG way
tawdry finch
I read the little biography of Pit
crystal vessel
I still had the prepreprealpha on my pc from before and I kept it because I didn't think we'd get it again
echo epoch
It's cool to spot all the differences
prisma ivy
I forgot how tiny the endless level was lol
echo epoch
And the level is interesting
tawdry finch
The addition of a goodies folder in this game really warmed my heart by the way, i love finding stuff like this in game folders
i love you guys
echo epoch
I think Pit is a good compliment to Dusk as well
Even if it's like a 5 year old game lol
tawdry finch
DUSK Pre Pre alpha graphic types
1996
1998
L U D I C R O U S
restive barn
so i'm in the mines
okay wrong mines then but moment to agree with you guys this game has some GREAT heart put into it
after that fake level end now i'm on the mine
thanks dave
gleaming berry
Pit will reappear in Episode 3 in ways
echo epoch
Oooh
solar totem
🤔
tawdry shore
has the setting been revealed yet?
echo epoch
Xen, but red.
tawdry shore
shambler mini boss when
dim valve
@ El Oshcuro Wolfenstein 3D-styled Pit secret level confirmed for Ep3?
echo epoch
RAGE pls
dim valve
Do ya'll think Leatherneck had to keep the bag on to bang Mama? Because if he took it off he'd turn back into a dumb redneck
lucid trench
Pacifists are much harder than i thought
Up to E1M6
I think i've become semi-competent at deflecting cultist fireballs now
dim valve
@limpid comet can you answer this puzzling question?
limpid comet
?
If we've learned anything about rednecks, it's that pointy hoods only turn them into dumber rednecks
lucid trench
Dumber Rednecks with Chainsaws tho
limpid comet
Also how dare you compare EWJ to some Redneck Dr Salvador
Does it seem like every dusk man has a RE4 equal?
I guess not every, but a lot
lucid trench
Yeah, Cutty mine seems pretty damn hard to pacifist
Even with me playing tennis with cultists to thin it out
exotic ibex
i found a bottle of lotion on cutty mine
i got a message that read “no hose on me!”
or “no hose for me!”
obtuse apex
how do you turn off the hud again?
lucid trench
Press + until the HUD goes away
obtuse apex
tysm
lucid trench
np
flat olive
I think I will just stick to singleplayer, I had accepted I'm bad.
vast cloak
being bad is the first step toward being good
echo epoch
Ask some people around here, they'll help you out. Practice, practice, practice.
willow oriole
I think the main issue right now is all the people playing are some kinda arena shooter gods
lucid trench
Also i think balance is still being worked on, it is Early Access after all
flat olive
Does weapon spinning do the same damage with all weapons that are able do?
vague egret
we do have some legit quake pros here. personally i see that as a golden learning opportunity
flat olive
I'm too slow to learn.
vague egret
better slow than not at all
tawdry shore
you get out what you put in!
crimson folio
@vague egret you need rocket launcher for that
riveter doesn't count. it's tad too rare and damage output is tad too big from it
vague egret
just wait until projectile code is fixed 😉
flat olive
so about my question with weapon spinning.
fair mirage
Does weapon spinning do the same damage with all weapons that are able do?
pretty sure yeah, don't see any reason why it'd be different
vague egret
i believe it does the same dmg regardless of weapon. although you get more dmg output from dual weapons such as pistols or shotguns
flat olive
ah.
vague egret
its just a quirk though. not really intended to be used as an actual combat mechanic
lucid trench
Regardless, people will do Ocelot runs, Weapon Spinning Only
vague egret
i know i do
lucid trench
Reserved for the insane probably
It's a lot of the little things that make this game
crimson folio
will custom textures be supported in mods?
tawdry finch
Cigar only run
vague egret
@crimson folio i believe so. Zombie would be the man to ask. the SDK is his baby
tame dew
<@&249011167937298432> <@&364176216116297729> idk where else to put this so! i bought dusk today (and i will agaiun in the future) but i had to refund for personal stuff. i can still open and play duskworld just fine tho!
i don't think this is intended, and i wanted to report it.
tame dew
yeah! np :)
mild ginkgo
are you playing via duskworld beta?
mild ginkgo
yeah the beta is still technically open
mild ginkgo
we havent closed the app yet
mild ginkgo
we would appreciate if you didnt post about it everywhere but yeahh
tame dew
(still gonna get rid of it, feels mean to keep it)
tame dew
(rather give u dudes support than steal bc dusk is good)
mild ginkgo
the one thats different from the main app right?
tame dew
mhm
mild ginkgo
should be no servers pop up
gleaming berry
Yeah we'll be deleting all those apps probably tomorrow when everyone at Valver is back to work
crimson folio
🇭 🆙
tame dew
also idk if this is a known issue but when u wallstrafe and hold jump you can surf and go really really fast
on any slanted wall
mild ginkgo
ahahah ok so yeah thats because your server isnt actually online
mild ginkgo
thats a physics bug caused by being offline
yep
dont jump off the edge
if you die to a map trigger while in that state
crimson folio
🇴 🇴 🇫
mild ginkgo
you get earraped
crimson folio
you get earOOFed when you die from a map trigger
tawdry finch
Hey look its big john
lucid trench
Ohhh forgot you do IL
Im still getting all the little completion medals on all the levels before i try speedrunning
cerulean sun
lucid trench
Damn thats good
I recently beat pacifist on e1m4
I did near enough the same, except i had to lure the rednecks out since they kept killing me while i was trying to shoot the switch
tawdry finch
That button shot, Door
lucid trench
I also had to go through the dopefish secret to avoid getting slaughtered
Aside from that the routes were similar
You had waaaaaay more polish behind your run though
lucid trench
Ive noticed theres a really faint sound when the passage near the SSG changes
Also you could have just plained jumped over the cultists
Save maybe a second at a push there
Couldnt see any other flaws, almost perfect
novel pawn
Does anyone have an reccomendations for getting pacifist in the cutty mines?
lucid trench
Thats the one im stuck on
lucid trench
Deflected fire balls dont count as kills
mild ginkgo
crouch slides can help you get around anemeies
lucid trench
Also rocks make pretty good shields
novel pawn
It's in such a tight space
lucid trench
even when picked up
novel pawn
I just can't squeeze past some enemies
tawdry finch
Oh my god dude picking up boulders and using them as shields really helps in untouchable runs
you have no idea
lucid trench
Against projectiles anyway
lucid trench
@novel pawn id say you could get away with killing the first few cultists with deflected projectiles if youre good enough at it. Both the rednecks can be snuck past
Fork maidens cancel their attack after you leave line of sight, theres a brief second they cant charge it up again, use that so slide past, they have no melee attack
Personally ive gotten upto the red key, i keep dying there
novel pawn
I'm bad at reflecting
lucid trench
I strafe a little and adjust my aim as i do it. Even if i miss the timing i can still dodge sometimes
Also like mentioned, rocks block all projectiles if positioned right, i dont think cultists have melee either
Having said that, E1M6 is probably the hardest one to pacifist
thin sphinx
try ep2 some areas are nuts to get done
e2m10 is hard cause the boss projectiles count as self damage
lucid trench
I thought they fixed that?
thin sphinx
nope
even though he doesnt damage it still invalidates pacifist
12th run through still no pacifist
lucid trench
Also just bhop and get to the switches before he can kill himself? Even then i question wether it counts as a kill
thin sphinx
his projectiles when they explode count as player projectiles
meaning if they explode and damage him self they count as invalidate pacfist
mild ginkgo
that level is super easy if you do the correct order
thin sphinx
some help then
mild ginkgo
meat side > left switch > right switch > bone side > right switch > left switch
mild ginkgo
here ill boot up dusk and get it first try
lucid trench
thin sphinx
we already have quake movement ported over
lucid trench
Thought this fixed that?
mild ginkgo
done
thin sphinx
no
thin sphinx
the self damage still invalidates pacfist that just makes it so he takes no dmg from his own projectiles
mild ginkgo
however it does invalidate the pacifist
lucid trench
Huh, thats new
cerulean sun
should add the mode that doom had to make 4 moniters front sides and back views
thin sphinx
that would be cool
lucid trench
Doesnt quake have a 360 FOV mod?
thin sphinx
yeah its a techdemo for quake
to showcase different methods of rendering 360 cameras
lucid trench
Did you just have to reach the exit before it fired into itself?
Or stealth it?
I guess shooting the switches instead buys time
Still probably the only interesting thing ive screwed with on Dusk
solar totem
👀 ❓
tawdry finch
wait whaaat
lucid trench
Deflected fireballs dont invalidate pacifist
I did this as an experiment on accessible mode and it worked
lucid trench
Even easier then
lucid trench
It really is the little things. Adds a fair bit of replay value too, trying to get all medals on all stages
tawdry finch
oh hell yeah dude, im gonna pour hours into getting a 100% everything
I dont really like level selecting, i just go through them all, it makes the weapons i have feel more deserved
lucid trench
If i level select i always start sickles only
tawdry finch
Its not missing
i got it and i love it
You know what is missing though
A Big John storyarch
rare musk
A Big John spinoff*
fair stone
Who came up with big john? Guys awesome
fair mirage
prolly dave
big john's face is dave's face
same with the voice lines, those were done by him for rott13 back then
stone jasper
why do some secret ares have soap in them
atomic egret
I spy an uninitiated
stone jasper
shit
balmy sluice
throw it at a boss
fair mirage
soap is actually the BFG
atomic egret
bfs
stone jasper
my god
stray jetty
what is with retro style games and being able to activate buttons though windows?
in e2m4 there is a button you can press and it got me 2 minutes faster then dev
opal plover
stray jetty
you got me their
atomic egret
got me their what
stray jetty
I dont need your sassafraze now to I
opal plover
You mean you got me there?
atomic egret
whats a sassafraze
atomic egret
but what is sassafraze
opal plover
gleaming berry
SASSAFRAZZZ
stray jetty
Look I dont need sassafraze from you ether
fair mirage
YEAH DAVE
opal plover
Guys I want your opinion on this, to you what is the Dusk main theme.
I mean like, music.
balmy sluice
Like, what genre? Or a specific song?
opal plover
Yeah a specific song from the soundtrack that to you is the main theme of dusk.
tawdry shore
endless 1
opal plover
Like all the classic fpss had unofficially accepted main themes, mostly first stage themes but I don't really see that sort of stuff with dusk.
Also yeah for me, endless 1 or menu theme.
fair mirage
mild ginkgo
i disagree
quake doesnt really get thought of for its theme
q1
it gets thought of for the entire album
because none of it is really standalone, its designed for the gameplay/levels
much like the prog concept albums of yesteryear
opal plover
Well the main menu demo is mostly accepted as the Q1 theme.
balmy sluice
I want to say e2ms. But thats just because its one of my faves. Not really the "theme for DUSK" imo
opal plover
Uh... What do you mean "sounds of the game" ?
tawdry shore
ambient music i suspect
fair mirage
yeah that's a little unclear
fair mirage
anyways when i think of dusk, i think of the menu music
that shet pumps me tf up
FUCK YEAH DUSK
opal plover
But this isn't a sound effect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5Jvr2Fp48
crimson folio
Big John emote? Can we have one?
mild ginkgo
nobody thinks of that as the theme really though
they think of how it makes them feel
crimson folio
^ i do
mild ginkgo
yeah but youre a crazy person
rare musk
The game itself and it's files never actually call it the theme but
crimson folio
true
rare musk
I'd wager most people would think of it as such
mild ginkgo
nah disagree
opal plover
Uh
mild ginkgo
yeah thats great that its the theme
but when you think of quake
that song isnt the first thing that pops into your head
rare musk
I dunno, I think of the Quake Menu theme more than Doom E1M1 honestly
atomic egret
that's quake
crimson folio
when i think of quake i think of it's music and Gothic theme
opal plover
Yeah I see what you mean.
rare musk
Because like, it's always there when you launch it, whether you're playing through Ep1 or not
mild ginkgo
like dusk has a menu thing
but its not the first thing that pops into your head
i think thats what make a theme a theme
balmy sluice
Yeah, e2ms pops into my head first. So guess thats its theme for me lol
crimson folio
When i think of dusk i think of lethernecks and Big John.
balmy sluice
or the e1m7 theme
atomic egret
endless is dusk's theme to me
rare musk
I mean maybe, but what there's something explicitly labelled and/or used as the theme by the creators, but isn't what you think of first?
mild ginkgo
yeah for a lot of people its endless
atomic egret
probably the most memorable song
opal plover
Yeah mostly because it was for some time the only dusk song you could really listen to.
atomic egret
but it's so recognisable too
opal plover
Well the dusk menu theme doesn't really kick off until a solid 30 seconds into the track, but personally I see the quake menu track as a theme but I see why you wouldn't 500. Anyway back to dusk talk.
rare musk
Because like, I can't help of thinking of the music that was in Endless mode during the whole first Episode period
When it comes to dusk
I dunno if it genuinely has a name
opal plover
Endless 2 I guess.
balmy sluice
UAAAGHH
rare musk
Okay look if we're gonna be honest about the DUSK theme, it's clearly the HUP sound effect.
atomic egret
UAGHAHAHAHA
opal plover
Yeah was expecting some sort of giant serious sam boss when it was first teased, but nope! Big John it was!
balmy sluice
Put a "HUP" in the offbeat of every song tbh
opal plover
Dusk but every sound effect is hup
mild ginkgo
david is very good at defiance of expectation
atomic egret
I got exactly what I was expecting at the end of the moon sliver and it still made me jump
opal plover
Also just realised when I think of dusk I think of Cutty Mines ambient.
And old time religion ambient.
mild ginkgo
exploration ✔
keys ✔
boss ✔
music ✔
elaborate level design ✔
surprises/traps ✔
atomic egret
amazing trap ahead
atomic egret
;3
mild ginkgo
lol
balmy sluice
👀
hexed roost
potent kestrel
i still love skinwalker more than pretty much the entire dusk ost
oh and the title theme is good E
rare musk
Skinwalker is pretty great.
atomic egret
perfect
bold dawn
please keep making these
atomic egret
dusk only needs 70 more positive reviews to gain "overwhelmingly positive" status
right now it's 430 positive vs 3 negative
tawdry shore
oh i haven't written one yet D:
unkempt hare
Sup, is anyone here responsible for overviewing the DUSK Steam forums?
Wanted to discuss something pertaining to them, not sure who the best person is to mention.
@gleaming berry
unkempt hare
Howdy, I wanted to run something by you about your Steam discussions for the game.
gleaming berry
k... wanna DM me?
unkempt hare
Sure thing.
gleaming berry
random yew
Oh so it's just generic sunglasses Big John had
I was sure it was some sort of goggles or visors like in System Shock 2
pallid token
gleaming berry
THEYRE GUNNARS
pallid token
crimson folio
supreme Aviators, Dusk-Dusted
sacred robin
Can we call DUSK a horror experience
sacred robin
Episode 2 spooked the shit out of me
vivid cape
probably
sacred robin
But E2M2 gave me the real skeleton spook
balmy sluice
I got spooked a couple times in e2
cosmic urchin
the game does atmopshere pretty damn well i can say that much
balmy sluice
I realllllly liked how e2m2 set its self up
crimson folio
There is nothing horror about it outside of designs. and one enemy which actually gives some chills
cosmic urchin
all things considered the cowgirls are honestly pretty disturbing as well
mild ginkgo
There's nothing horror about it outside of the parts that are horror
fair mirage
definitely
crimson folio
Horror underline is disempowerment of player. There is none of that in dusk as it is empowering fps
balmy sluice
"horror game" doesnt have to mean something that you have to be terrified in or be something like ourlast
sacred robin
The best comparison that I can come up with is that it's Dead Space but FPS and Texas Chainsaw Masscre
mild ginkgo
If you want to talk about that, David has written a massive article on that matter
sacred robin
I'm curious
crimson folio
Dead space is best doom 3 game also
crimson folio
no, other way around lol.
sacred robin
G'night
balmy sluice
@echo epoch
atomic egret
are you sure this is the right channel dave
balmy sluice
@echo epoch
gleaming berry
meh im lazy
atomic egret
smdh
vivid cape
prism sauce is lazy
jade root
Morning
winged otter
guten tag
sacred robin
Thank you thy lord for Amid Evil
jade root
Dave quit leaking duskguy
sacred robin
He looks like a John
echo epoch
I GOT IT
sacred robin
Got what
atomic egret
duskdude=big john confirmed
echo epoch
Yep
sacred robin
I did too
winged otter
congrats
echo epoch
I was on mobile lmfao trying to activate it
balmy sluice
I got u fam
sacred robin
Thanks again thy lord
mild ginkgo
New blood will provide that good good retrofps action always
mild ginkgo
I'm in bed
atomic egret
go to sleep
mild ginkgo
Zzz
balmy sluice
but discord memes
atomic egret
if I don't see you offline in 5 minutes you're grounded mr
you've got one minute left scott
@mild ginkgo you're grounded
no duskworld for 3 days
fair mirage
but daaaaaad
atomic egret
NO BUTS
fair mirage
heh you said butt
balmy sluice
butts xd
pallid token
Butts 😏
fair mirage
fuckin rekt
mild ginkgo
😬
glacial flare
Hey uh where do we find the ost?
balmy sluice
glacial flare
Fuk♡
fair mirage
i know your pain
i want to listen to the ost a bit closer
but i'm usually absorbed in the game when i play
so i don't really pay attention to the music
echo epoch
Some of it is on YouTube, even a couple midi remixes, but I guess you could god mode and turn off SFX for now lol
urban sparrow
Crank dat slider up
jade root
Crank the music down and sound fx up amirite lads
urban sparrow
Die
jade root
Then put on your sickest Touhou playlist
urban sparrow
😁
jade root
dumb
urban sparrow
Ha! Nice use
obtuse apex
how many layers of reverb does the ost have
urban sparrow
Do wha? I is confused
42
I recorded the ost then played it out of a cave and recorded that.
obtuse apex
u should add a few more just to be safe
urban sparrow
A few more caves?
Finding dank ones are hard
Are you legit asking how dry some of those tracks are? That's actually intentional along with the direct sounding guitars on the first episode.
Inspiration from early NIN mixes
warped saffron
You know the staircase where John Bonham recorded the drums for "When The Levee Breaks"??? Yeah I have my rig at the top and my studio monitors at the bottom when I play. So yeah.
urban sparrow
Ayyyy
jade root
Hey Andrew how many times have you been called Andrew Hulshit
urban sparrow
I can't count that high
warped saffron
Hellshit
urban sparrow
I am a simple man
jade root
Because I had to look you up for that dank meme I made and I saw a forum that said "Andrew hulshit" and I laughed a little
crimson folio
lol i didn't play with andrew's music until my third playthrough
sorry but beach boys dusk is too hilarious
urban sparrow
Lol that sounds great
crimson folio
surfin USA will always be what i think of when i play old time religion
obtuse apex
i could see how dusk and the beach boys would mix
radiant venture
Btw, Andrew, is your last name pronounced Hul-shult or Huls-hult?
radiant venture
Alright. Hult is a common thing in Swedish last names so it got me wondering
urban sparrow
That explains some recent attempts I've heard lol
radiant venture
Haha
jade root
"Holy-shit"
radiant venture
I've said Huls-hult before
urban sparrow
It just gets butchered all around so no biggie
Especially by grade school teachers flashbacks start
balmy sluice
jab, that fucking got me
cosmic urchin
crimson folio
Jk its awsome
cosmic urchin
crimson folio
potent kestrel
obtuse apex
😏
crimson folio
finally i finished Chapter 2
cosmic urchin
crimson folio
the guardian gave me a hella trouble
hazy island
Someone I know got the Guardian to nade itself to death.
cosmic urchin
mama can also do that
hazy island
I on the other hand was running away like the bitch I am through the teleporters
cosmic urchin
and the cowgirls
hazy island
Talented gals
thorn trout
@MrIcarus#3177 that must have been before the patch that eliminates self damage for him and mama :)
jade root
Rip tricking mama into killing herself
jade root
She was voiced by David which is even scarier
glad violet
Lmao
jade root
Just goes to show how much of a pussy he can sound like
jade root
I think mamas arena is the best part
willow oriole
Imma be honest
jade root
Kinda forces you to play differently