thanks!
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
severe quail
halcyon jetty
what programming language is Dusk programmed in?
slate burrow
Unity
untold elm
Ultimate Doom > Doom 2016
slate burrow
The only thing making me play the original doom is custom Pwads
vale oar
wrong key xD
Everyone complains about goddamn 20 $ on Steam
What the fuck is wrong with that dudes
stone thistle
Dusk is worth 60 $
slate burrow
20 bucks for a game that is actually good? A steal if I should say so myself.
gloomy frost
I would refunt dusk and buy it again because its that good m8
halcyon jetty
Unity is an engine, not a programming language....I mean like Python, C#, C++, something else entirely
crimson folio
doom 2016 was fun don t hate on it
halcyon jetty
(Unity uses c# it seems)
gloomy frost
I wonder if unity can support surfing, or moving at idk fukin 10000000000 units a second like they do in quake defrag vids
crimson folio
could have been better ye but its not shit
gloomy frost
doom 2016 was fun but not NEARLY as much fun as dusk
mild ginkgo
it is a mixture of javascript and c#
halcyon jetty
I didnt like doom 2016 that much....it was ok, but I prefered Titanfall 2 over it.
Ok, thanks.
gloomy frost
not even halfway as much fun as dusk
halcyon jetty
Yep.
crimson folio
never played the campaign of TF2 but i enjoyed the mp
balmy sluice
gloomy frost
If i wanna play a high octane, bout as much fun as dusk, versioon of doom, i'd play doom 1/2 with zandronum 3.0
crimson folio
yes
halcyon jetty
I find Dusk's movement to be really nice though, strafejumping is super easy in the game....plus the unclipped z axis can lead to fun things
Like rocket jumping and doing a 360 flip before nailing a person in the face with the sniper rifle
gloomy frost
fucking triple backflip noscope some poor motherfucker crossmap
solar totem
I've enjoyed Doom enough to playthrough on Ultra Nightmare a few times - but there are some parts of the game where it doesn't quite feel high-octane enough,
halcyon jetty
The natural evolution of the 360 noscope
solar totem
Thank god they added Arcade,
gleaming berry
gloomy frost
hell yeah
halcyon jetty
Yes
crimson folio
oh lol
gloomy frost
by the end of feb. itll have fucking 25 mil
halcyon jetty
This game will sell like hotcakes
crimson folio
lets shitface that dude
gloomy frost
cant wait for modders to make defrag mods for dusk
halcyon jetty
I want the instagib deathmatch stuff
gloomy frost
same here
crimson folio
oh well he is getting shitfaced already xD
halcyon jetty
How does Dusks multiplayer compared to Quake 3s?
crimson folio
i love quake3 but dusks plays better tbh
dreamy snow
I can't wait for grapple hook CTF game modes
dreamy snow
m8 its brilliant already
mild ginkgo
thats the good news
halcyon jetty
I mean how does it play compared to Q3, is it faster paced?
halcyon jetty
Helk yes
crimson folio
and talking about bugs
just foung one
*found
well i actually had the pleasure to play it lagfree for the first time today..... shit is gud
it's on The Dig
crimson folio
lol
solar totem
๐ค
crimson folio
the player can see thru the walls if look from that ledge
make it happen David pls
earnest relic
what if he's like this badass cybernazi that you can just kill with one pistol shot
halcyon jetty
Make him the final boss and add weird cyberpunk knight enemies too
Yes.
Like the hunters from Halo
crimson folio
OHOHOHO hey, that's an awesome idea for an axpansion
earnest relic
also the music is done by cybernazi the band
gloomy cypress
Hitler came back from the dead to start a cult and dominate the world once again after he allied with satan in hell
tame tide
@earnest relic dat track is dope
earnest relic
Cybernazi's albums are 100# dope
halcyon jetty
I dont think it fits the tone of Dusk though.
earnest relic
its like synthwave mixed with hard metal
halcyon jetty
imo
tame tide
well
tame tide
we can make him secret boss
halcyon jetty
I just listened to the first 30 or so seconds so Im probably wrong
crimson folio
oh no, don't bring me back to fash-wave lol
it's on that ledge here (the bug that i mentioned)
hexed roost
pssst
halcyon jetty
wut
hexed roost
you can use that to complete the map in sub 20 seconds
thorn trout
yeah this is the point where the libe between bug and feature is super blurry and hard to decide on as the dev lol
*line
crimson folio
well, sorry then, i guess im just being a pleb
hexed roost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgGOLis9CQM @crimson folio
crimson folio
wooooooooooow
crimson folio
hell yeah
but first im gonna experience the level entirely, then i will speedrun it
the mood is amazing
earnest relic
real shame cybernazi's stuff has been put in restricted/superduper hidden mode though. i guess i can see why.
halcyon jetty
cause he has nazi in the name or is he an actual nazi?
halcyon jetty
possibbly
tame tide
He probably called himself Cyber Hitler to be EDGY
halcyon jetty
Also possibly
thorn trout
tbh it wasn't even the least edgy of his names :P
untold elm
Mecha Hilter is what I called em.
thorn trout
most edgy rather
halcyon jetty
ow the edge
crimson folio
**OW
dreamy snow
I called him a bored manchild, because that's the vibe he gave off with his names :p
crimson folio
lel
earnest relic
who is this "his"?
crimson folio
y'know what i find amusing in wolf3D? the broken deustch
half bone
lel
crimson folio
stuff of nightmares
thorn trout
literally a picture of one of my cats
woeful sonnet
๐ well then
mint marlin
;)
thorn trout
he has a deformed face and we love him. He's also one of the most vivacious psycho cats ever
tons of personality
chrome charm
what's his name my man
thorn trout
Zamboni
chrome charm
sicc name
solar totem
Wild
halcyon jetty
....lel
thorn trout
yup :)
crimson folio
a friend of mine has a cat that bit a eletric wire like an absolute mad bastard
we can say that he has
a lot of energy
(laugh track)
chrome charm
i had 2 cats my mom rescued from harvey, they were screamin from a tree they climbed up
crimson folio
but serious tho he really did it, he even has a little burn mark in the mouth
chrome charm
one of the fuckers loved to chill in this root beer box that i had forgotten to throw out of my room
mild ginkgo
lol
chrome charm
called him rudy cause of that
mild ginkgo
solid name
crimson folio
punished name
chrome charm
yea he was a good boy, miss him a lot
crimson folio
oh... well i guess he is in cat-heaven
chrome charm
lmao he didn't die, him and his brother just fucked off from my house 2 months after we rescued them
i miss him yea but fuck man cats are hard to keep up with if you're not prepared, they destroyed my bathroom
cats are cool tho wish he was still around
crimson folio
if one day i get an apt or something i will definitively get one of these cute lil furballs
well, better we stop with the cat talk and just y'know
chrome charm
rip
random yew
I hate all the cats except the sphynx breed
jaunty meteor
I wanna see more pics of zamboni
dim valve
A lot of graphics whores coming out of the woodworks on the steam forums ๐
It's like that part in old-time religion when the door opens up
bold dawn
jaunty meteor
You market towards the people who are likely to buy your game, not the people who will never buy it for [insert dumb reason here]
Those people will never give NB money or post reviews of the game, so the most relevance they have are some dumb threads on Steam
You can find those in just about any game's forum
viral gate
What a waste of time tho
dim valve
A lot of the people complaining about the graphics and price tag would never buy the game in the first place, anyway
they're like the people that pirate and complain about the games they pirated sucking ass
like, come on
cloud forge
i remember when the strafe devs were first getting their game out there
they told me they were getting tons of emails complaining that their game was ripping off minecraft aesthetically. and these emails were unironic
i wonder how common that sort of stuff is for every dev making a retro throwback game
dim valve
There's some german dude on the forums who was saying that Minecraft looks better than Dusk
bruh
cloud forge
WHY IS THE COMPARISON ALWAYS MINECRAFT
dim valve
because they were born in 2001
viral gate
^
prisma ivy
I would just recommend ignoring the forums :P
dim valve
shit maybe even that's too late
cloud forge
i always always judge a throwback game's visuals in comparison to Quake
giving a bit of leniance considering most tend to take inspiration from games a few years both prior and after as well
dim valve
not taking the bait
thorn trout
solar olive
millenials
thorn trout
^^^ useful tool :)
warped saffron
This is funny because I recently showed my 9 year old brother Quake for the first time and he said "It looks like Minecraft but better." :p
tawny briar
Ep3 WoW ReAl
dim valve
Look at any of these
compare it to shovelware shit like Halloween
tell me dusk doesn't have a clear art design aesthetic
cloud forge
@vale oar if you put a .conf file in dusk's folder with "unlock full game" in it you actually unlock the entirety of episode three
they just dont want you to know it's done yet
dim valve
lies
vale oar
Yeah sure
dim valve
it's actually NBCHURE3
prisma ivy
The secret is out
crimson folio
I have to play Dusk in small doses because its too fucking scary for me
dim valve
someone post the e1m6 ghost
viral gate
๐ป
crimson folio
yeah those german dudes are school kids we got holidays here, as many probably but he was posting at the daytime his mom was done wiping his arse
there was like a rush of them in the noon lol
however that instagib we will get, will it be more classic with the hunting or more the dusk way with the xbow
dim valve
Like, most indie games have pretty simplistic graphics. Why don't we ever see dumb kids complain about 8-bit zelda clone #235896?
Comparing E2 to E1, it really is a huge improvement in terms of art direction.
gleaming berry
dim valve
it took you a few days but I'm glad you finally saw it david
thorn trout
10/10
crimson folio
nice
solar totem
Damn, thats looking better than the one I'm doing
hexed roost
That artwork is incredible
Reminder, we print out all of your artwork and put it on the fridge
solar totem
๐
prisma ivy
Otherwise known as the dusk twitter :P
dim valve
people be finna swiping the doom boxart, but when are we ever going to see the dusk plagiarism of THIS MASTERPIECE???
crimson folio
yeah the n64 had a good lineup ๐
nah for real it was a good console with good games
dim valve
NBA IN THE ZONE
random yew
I liked the 007 games on N64
jade root
oh man
crimson folio
yeah goldeneye was the shit at the time
jade root
that reminded me of that one HORRIBLE Nintendo Power magazine cover
lemme see if i can find it
crimson folio
it had bullet penetration on some weapons and i was happy evreytime i managed to kill someone through cover
dim valve
@crimson folio GE did a lot of new things that PC games didn't copy until quite a few years after its release
jade root
omy god his is suck an old issue too
crimson folio
yeah, like the diffrent reactions you get when u shoot diffrent body parts aswell
jade root
the didnt even know what the wii was gonna be called
dim valve
project revolution?
latent bronze
Hello Guys ! Is DUSK working on Windows XP ?
winged otter
whats a windows xp?
thin sphinx
ITS A VIRUS
chrome charm
wew
wraith cape
Seems like it's level dependent, how many objects are loaded etc but so i tried endless mode on i think one of the farm levels and i get a solid 60fps and yet if i play the campaign i only get 27-37
so freaking weird.
latent bronze
old microsoft system ๐
chrome charm
amazing
latent bronze
Yea, I want to buy a game and i don't know it will be workin :/
chrome charm
why dont ya upgrade your os buddy
hexed roost
You can always refund the game if it doesn't work
winged otter
alternative solution:install newer windows....?
half bone
Question: will there be some kind of map editor like Worldcraft or Hammer Editor?
latent bronze
I dont have too much money, idk what i need to buy first. better car or better PC ( pc is working since 2009 xd)
chrome charm
goddamn man
warped saffron
@half bone Trenchbroom
jade root
car
half bone
Ok, didn't know
lean wolf
does that mean we can recreate doom in dusk ๐
jade root
cant really get your life in order to get more money if you dont have a decent car
winged otter
dusk is more important than car!
btw
Jim Sterling plays Dusk too? that was unexpected
tawny briar
HE played the pre pre pre pre alpha
verbal dragon
i made a movement tutorial for dusk, does that get posted here or still steamers-den? https://youtu.be/Z3EvOnU-eXI
feel free to delete and tell me off :D
random yew
I can't believe it's whole 10 minutes
Dusk movement can be mastered in 30 seconds
It's not Quake
Or HL
With their complicated bunnyhopping
verbal dragon
got to get that ad revenue boy ;D
nah i spend like a minute explaining the basics of how to do the aircontrol movement
it also has some stuff on rocking jumping, sliding, some notes on how to practice
i don't pad videos ๐
fair jolt
on e2m8 and dont' want to exit before using red key. Any hints?
mild ginkgo
very quality vid
verbal dragon
thanks man, there is more in the pipe
mild ginkgo
@fair jolt all the way back at the beginning of the level
crimson folio
yeah good vid
fair jolt
@mild ginkgo thanks I actually went right back there but must have missed it
lean wolf
gosh i want dusk so bad
lean wolf
yes
crimson folio
But it might instagib you
lean wolf
i would've bought dusk already but student life you know
lean wolf
i got like 100e for the rest of the month lol
echo epoch
Fuck gambling lol I feel like shit
crimson folio
second rule
lean wolf
gotta wait till next
ashen olive
key for dusk?
crimson folio
HUMPMH
lean wolf
HUMPH HUMPH
crimson folio
HUMPH HUMPH HUMPH
lean wolf
sounds like an excellent rule
fair jolt
damn that last boss switch bit is rough. Forget about me saying Episode 1 was too easy
crimson folio
fair jolt
is there a secret level and if so what levels it in?
gleaming berry
vale oar
U mean in ep2?
fair jolt
yeah
vale oar
Yea there is a secret lvl
vale oar
You can find it in E2M4
fair jolt
thanks for that.
vale oar
ur welcome
lean wolf
since dusk is getting sdk, im interested how that works, how do you modify unity game? i thought they were a bit difficult to mod
prisma halo
They're usually difficult to modify because they aren't designed with modding in mind
lean wolf
i would love to read/hear technical stuff about it
prisma halo
Which is amplified by the fact that Unity modding is usually done on built games
and since Unity uses a ton of undocumented data formats, tools for working with built games are, well, not great
lean wolf
i can see that
since every time you add stuff you have to rebuild the project
atleast with traditional means
prisma halo
I'm not a fan of how Unity works in general
the Dusk SDK mostly implements its own asset handling
echo epoch
That's neato
lean wolf
does that mean you basically make your own asset format that dusk client can read?
prisma halo
Yes
lean wolf
ah cool
prisma halo
There's an internal format, but the idea is that most people go with known formats
IQM, flac, png, etc
echo epoch
flac is uncompressed audio, right?
prisma halo
no, flac is lossless compressed audio
lean wolf
so the sdk converts conventional formats into something unity reads
and makes it into an asset thingy
prisma halo
It reads them into Unity's structures at startup
warm vapor
I just noticed the ghost in The Cutty Mine holy shit.
lean wolf
ah i see
echo epoch
How will that work with large mods and such?
prisma halo
Well, it only loads what it needs
Load textures/models/etc for one level, move to the next level and stuff that isn't shared gets unloaded
lean wolf
that's such a "hacky" way to do it, i love it
echo epoch
Oh, that's smart. I thought you meant the initial loading screen. Coolness.
prisma halo
Nah, most games do the same thing
crimson folio
Uh.......is there a map editor?
prisma halo
Hacky would be just loading everything at once
There's no Dusk-specific editor currently
prisma halo
Maps are made with Quake tools
echo epoch
TrenchBroom
lean wolf
omg
echo epoch
@prisma halo are the maps you guys make for the vanilla game made in Unity or TB?
prisma halo
I'd love to make a proper level editor for Dusk specifically but that's not on my immediate roadmap
sinful crag
prisma halo
It's a mix
sinful crag
DOOSK
prisma halo
All of the singleplayer maps were done in Unity with ProBuilder, since that's what David uses
crimson folio
trenchbroom? what about quark?
prisma halo
Some Duskworld maps were made in TrenchBroom
Some were done in ProBuilder
You could use Quark if you wanted, yeah
echo epoch
Ah okay. Is there a conversion method between the two editors?
prisma halo
The editor isn't important, but rather the format you compile the map into
crimson folio
is there a bsp to read textures out of? Can dusk read bsps with custom textures?
prisma halo
The BSP loader is very experimental and still WIP, but it should be able to
crimson folio
wait not bsp. PAK
prisma halo
@echo epoch There's a conversion from BSP -> ProBuilder, but ProBuilder -> BSP is something I need to experiment with
it's difficult and is the reason the main maps aren't all BSP yet
lean wolf
did you ever try sabreCSG when creating dusk? just curious about your opinions on it
crimson folio
Makes sense. but probuilder really lacks in terms of development speed. How about Gzdoom builder > Quark > Dusk toolchain? ๐ I'm a doom mapper when it comes to it
prisma halo
I looked at it briefly but didn't try it
echo epoch
That's cool, I'd like to utilize the vanilla textures and use my own, too.
Is BSP the standard you'd like to have, or does it not matter much for the base game? Any performance differences with the end product?
Sorry for all the Qs, if you're busy it's cool man.
prisma halo
My interests with SabreCSG lie in using it as a base for an editor, but I'm not convinced
lean wolf
i've used sabre myself, it seems to do its job but i have to give probuilder a shot
prisma halo
I think @thorn trout considered SabreCSG for levels at one point but chose ProBuilder later on
crimson folio
I doubt it since in order to utilize BSP you actually need to use binary space partitioning portion of it, not just meshes
portals for static culling
lean wolf
thanks for answering my questions btw
prisma halo
Is BSP the standard you'd like to have, or does it not matter much for the base game? Any performance differences with the end product?
It's hard to answer, really
crimson folio
i dobut it, i don't see any static culling in dusk so far
prisma halo
I'd LIKE to have a custom format, since then I can ensure I have all the data I want in the format I want
lean wolf
.humph
prisma halo
but people are used to Quake tools, and the Quake tools do a lot of heavy lifting that I'm not really experienced enough to do myself
like lightmapping
crimson folio
@prisma halo you just lift lightmaps and move em to a custom shader
prisma halo
I mean the actual process of generating lightmaps
echo epoch
Also, yeah, it'd be cool to somehow get my GZDoom maps into DUSK eventually :D
prisma halo
Note that the current version of Dusk on Steam is not moddable
The SDK version of the game is a separate branch and is a complete rewrite of the source code
crimson folio
grin maybe my impes gonna get used after all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvqAOdquZww
this is on unity 3d
prisma halo
That's neat
crimson folio
i've written like 50% support of whole spec. stopped at ai
lean wolf
@crimson folio thats really cool!
crimson folio
Yeah. if not for lack of funding/incentive i would've finished it. ๐
lean wolf
aw
prisma halo
I think the hardest part of the SDK design-wise is coming up with an easy way for stuff to get scripted, without it being overly complex but still powerful
lean wolf
i would have no idea where to even start making the sdk haha
crimson folio
@prisma halo it's not about complexity but about variety. you build it so that it is full of simple direct functions
so people can construct routines themselves
prisma halo
That's more about the API, but I mean how they would interact with said API
There's so many different ways to go about it
Could do an ECS approach, EC (Unity), OOP like ZDoom or something else
crimson folio
just don't go with jit approach, or if you do - please make sure you run the fuck out of CRC checking. or multiplayer will get fucked
prisma halo
JIT approach?
gleaming berry
lean wolf
meanwhile googles everything
jade root
FUCK
prisma halo
I assume you're not referring to a JIT compiler so maybe you mean variable timestep?
lean wolf
lmao dat patch
elder glade
Are we gonna get a soundtrack download at some point, just wondering
fossil oriole
MAJOR UPDATE
Thank you this was extremely important I was a fool for not noticing before
jade root
youll be able to buy the ost
prisma halo
@elder glade When the full game is out, it'll be part of the collector's edition
mild ginkgo
yes
prisma halo
And you can buy it separate too
lean wolf
bet your fps increased too after that patch
jade root
or get it for free if yo got dusk before christmas
elder glade
Oh good, so I'm set
Now I can listen to the song from Old Time Religion on repeat forever
jade root
^ man of taste
hexed roost
very good choice
elder glade
Second one.
crimson folio
@prisma halo jit - just in time - just in time compilation - that can be interpreted scripting or pre-built bytecode which you partially post-compile, but that's usually reserved for emulation or java or python.
in case with springrts to example - all backend lua plugins which interact directly with engine actions and not just visual ui are CRC checked all the damn time
prisma halo
There's not really any choice in the use of JIT or not
I know what JIT compilation is I just didn't know if that's what you actually meant or not
serene sandal
@elder glade I'll be listening to Erebus Reactor on loop.
crimson folio
What i really like about dusk is that it actually DOES feel like it's IDTech (quake engine) game. Movement is nice (albeit climbing 80 degree slopes using sidejump is a bit funky), weapons feel appropriate with a kick, music is nice, enemies feel avoidable and varied, like - you can actually dance with them.
Unlike godawful Strafe which feels like garbage on controls. They tried so hard to wink at us and gloat about how their game is so 1996 they forgot to actually make it like it's 1996
lean wolf
I still liked Strafe, despite it's flaws
prisma ivy
Still need to get around to playing it
prisma ivy
I liked tower of guns so I could probably enjoy a sort of roguelite shooter
bleak karma
well, beat the game. Is this... is this what happiness feels like?
bleak karma
Jabronii, you're god damn right
valid path
guys wee woo wee WOOO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhyQFSNcxNI
thorn trout
new patch
vale oar
oh man
opal plover
Oh snap
vale oar
Thanks David
bleak karma
Thanks David
crimson folio
@jade root @lean wolf as a seasoned fps veteran - strafe feels like an insult. NOTHING is right in that game.
Music is garbage, weapons are crap. Enemies movement and how they attack is outright insulting - you see - quake, blood, dusk and what have you - all have melee enemies actually hurt you (after attack animation started) when you're in range.
Sloths in strafe once in attack animation started - attack you for over 2 meters distance because authors were too lazy to make their physical motors actually move them with speed. Rest of the enemies aren't that good either. Player controls feel like you're constantly on molasis. And i can keep going on and on how talentless strafe devs were.
But i'll just say that - provide before you gloat about it. not before.
lean wolf
dunno man i just had fun playin it
crimson folio
should try playing it back to back with doom and quake
it's in the feel of the controls and fluence of movement. Dusk has it right
which i couldn't be happier about.
lean wolf
i have fun playing quake, i have fun playing doom, i have fun playing strafe, and i'm 100% sure i will have tons of fun playing dusk when i buy it
guess im just easy to please lol
atleast in terms of fps
crimson folio
Eh.
only complain i have right now is that textures could use some work.
detail compression on some ground and rock textures make them too noisy
also generally speaking some levels could use more contrasting details here and there - to break up monotony
thorn trout
@crimson folio huh, fair point about the ground/rock textures
by the time Dusk is done I will finally have the skills/knowledge/experience to make Dusk lol
prisma ivy
Lol
lean wolf
^ ha
prisma ivy
Then your ready to make DUSK 2
gleaming berry
DUSK 2: THIS TIME WITH GRAPHICS
prisma ivy
STOP ECHOING ME EAGH
lean wolf
no!
bleak karma
DUSK 2: Now it's Dawn
vale oar
Fuck graFIX
crimson folio
@thorn trout it's a small observation but one which bit me in the ass when i was designing some of the doom maps. Detail compression - in other words -an ability to equally pace detail on walls and scenery so it doesn't feel noisy and at the same time doesn't feel too monotonous-repetitive. it's a juggling act ๐
sweet magnet
<From Dusk Til Dawn joke here>
bleak karma
guys, what about DUSK 2 Dawn
vale oar
Dawsk
lean wolf
DUCK
warped saffron
but DAWN is already the SDK name
sweet magnet
Dawsk, yes
bleak karma
Viscont has got the right idea
viral gate
DooK
lean wolf
DuuD
atomic egret
DUSK 2: DAY
bleak karma
Dusk Ksud
crimson folio
Dook NUKUM: THHHREEE DHEEEE
lean wolf
Dusk the duskening
thorn trout
@crimson folio yeah that's especially tricky with textures like the ones you mention, which are naturally noisy and chaotic
bleak karma
Who'd win? DuuD or sKKs?
lean wolf
DuuD vs DooD
warped saffron
there isn't any anisotropic filtering happening in DUSK right?
doesn't look like it anyway
thorn trout
my wife likes Dusk 2: The Duskening, but I kind of like Dusk 2: Dusk Harder
@warped saffron correct
no mipmaps either
lean wolf
Dusk 2: The HUMPH Edition
crimson folio
@thorn trout can you throw me this ground texture in private? i'll poke it about and see if it can be made less noisy or do you just need to trash it and do a new one ๐
warped saffron
that would clear that up lickitty split. but u already kno that. i kind of like the noise tbh
prisma ivy
This Time it's Duskyโข
lean wolf
It's gettin Dusky in here
viral gate
cough
warped saffron
lol
opal plover
dusk 2 dead by dawn
lean wolf
If I paid 20โฌ for dusk now I wouldn't have food for money for the rest of the month ๐ค
atomic egret
Dusk 2: nightfall
winged otter
33 mb patch for dust released right now ๐ค
lean wolf
33mb, that's a lot of floppies
atomic egret
should be the mouse sens patch
valid path
that's like 11 floppies
slate burrow
Yeah I wonder what the update was
lucid trench
You know, i had actually made a backup of the pre-alpha before EA release just in case it was lost forever, glad it was included
crimson folio
@gleaming berry that troll post you screen capped is probably John Romero mad that Dusk runs better than Daikatana
lucid trench
Along with Daves Wolf3D-esque game
lean wolf
@crimson folio lmao
viral gate
lol
proud tide
You know, it'd be cool if I could climb ladders while strafing, I can only climb them while I'm looking at them, in games like Half Life you could climb them in any direction you wanted as long as you were moving towards them, that'd be really comfy
atomic egret
john romero is a fan of dusk tho
crimson folio
He can still be mad
atomic egret
his twitter header is literally a dusk screenshot
viral gate
Wut really? neat
lean wolf
senpai has noticed
lean wolf
i guess senpai can only notice for so long
atomic egret
Twitter
pallid token
viral gate
winged otter
lean wolf
echo epoch
DAVID IS GOING TO MAKE YOU HIS BITCH
crimson folio
Dusk made me go hook up my old ass IBM Aptiva a few weeks ago, ill post a pic when I get home. Been playing some Deathkings of the Dark Citadel and all that shit OG style.
vale oar
Yeah Hexen DK is a good one
echo epoch
Dave produced Daikatana
echo epoch
Romero can buy some with his Daikatana $$$
lean wolf
btw does dusk have headshot multiplier
crimson folio
@echo epoch * can not
Daikatana and money dont go together, as much as I love that steaming pile.
echo epoch
: )
thorn trout
yeah someone bug Romero about playing Dusk now that it's in EA lol
echo epoch
Does he live in Texas? I'll just go knock.
crimson folio
haha make a pic
winged otter
maybe Romero is waiting for a Dusk final release?
crimson folio
invite him to discord
slate burrow
@echo epoch SUCK IT DOWN
crimson folio
we make him our lurker
slate burrow
Had to finish off the line here started lol
echo epoch
Same
crimson folio
omg
echo epoch
Ucking
warped saffron
romero steaming DUSK would be ze best
echo epoch
Game
opal plover
I would absolutely love to see what John Romero thinks of the level design
crimson folio
Im sure he would enjoy it, Dusk is a sex monster of a game.
exotic ibex
better level design than thy flesh consumed
slate burrow
By no doubt will John Romero love Dusk. He is all about old school FPS.
crimson folio
i think that episode was ment to be arseraping
haughty trout
h
crimson folio
i
warped saffron
man some people have a real appreciation for episode 4... but not me. i just don't have fun playing it maaannn...
echo epoch
That reminds me, DUSK needs a secret boss like Doom.
crimson folio
Hmm
haughty trout
Secret h
echo epoch
Then again, David hates bosses.
exotic ibex
big john as the final boss all along
crimson folio
Quickly, get the rights to John Romeros face and put him behind a wall.
thorn trout
@opal plover given he's my game design / level design hero, I would be interested to know as well :3
slate burrow
Good question though. Does the Dope Fish still live?
exotic ibex
yes
thorn trout
he does
slate burrow
He is somewhere in your game is he lmfao
exotic ibex
someone found him already
thorn trout
he is TWO places so far!
slate burrow
Dammit I gotta find him >.>
jaunty meteor
John Romero had a Dusk twitter background for months, I'm absolutely sure he loves it
exotic ibex
i saw of screenshot of him but idk what mission
crimson folio
Dopefish...all glory to his teeth.
exotic ibex
i know heโs in ep1 tho
thorn trout
yup he's in both episodes
vale oar
btw I've seen some weird LITTLE Dopefish shit in ep2 - where is it?
exotic ibex
nice
proud tide
I got stuck here
slate burrow
And I just beat the first episode on Cero Miedo difficulty
exotic ibex
iโd like to see a morale bonus thatโs doomguyโs helmet
hexed roost
Are you playing on DUSK EPISODE 1 + 2 @proud tide
crimson folio
@exotic ibex holy shit that'd be a great morale bonus
exotic ibex
thank you
winged otter
o/
violet night
k
thin sphinx
Have it be called the doomed soldiers helmet
clear sluice
why is there an update for dusk
dim valve
to fix the fancy s crosshair
winged otter
wtb patch notes
clear sluice
have i started a chain reaction of hype?
crimson folio
finally i get the lootboxes
s a d d o g g o
whats a quick way to get 20 bucks other than asking
sell your shitty csgo skins
mild ginkgo
sell garbage steam items
crimson folio
i dont have any
mild ginkgo
trading cards, dota items, etc
hexed roost
add me on steam and i will give you my shitty cards to sell lol
crimson folio
i had a knife all the way back in like
sell your shitty pubg skins
2015
when i was good at csgo
and top 2k in faceit not flexing here
i dont have any shitty pubg skins
oh wait
i should sell my crates
but i'd have to play pubg to actually get so many
that i can fucking sell them all for 20 bucks
pubg stuff sells high
well buddy
lean wolf
where's my duskboxes
crimson folio
do some shitty job?
lean wolf
that i open with duskkeys
crimson folio
at 14? lol
fuck man
ofc
but you have to go through so much shit for that
there are plenty of shitty jobs for 14 y old
like work permit cuz im 14
lean wolf
im 24 and no money because student life haha.. ha.. haa..
lean wolf
welcome to life
crimson folio
cuz i wanna play dusk RITE NOAW XD
i was even thinking of like pirating it and i was like "no wtf that's a scummy fucking thing to do"
steal your moms CC like all the other shitheads from your generation do it
oh lol
best idea
hey i respect my mother and her money
go to the developers discord and talk about pirating the game lmao
IM PIRATING YOUR GAME
jk
well then go out and make 20 bucks by working for it, by the end of the next week you have some dusk
even if i wanted to it's way too risky becuase of the fucking viruses and im too lazy to get utorrent
stop being a pussy and work for your shit, grow up, at your age my beard was grown to my knee caps
14?
the fuck
i'd work for it but you see i lazy doggo
so i'd rather ask for it because it's not often i come across agame that im like OH FUCK I WANT THIS RIGHT NOW
proud tide
@hexed roost Yes I am
hexed roost
Yep, it has been fixed on the main app. DUSK EPISODE 1 + 2 are depreciated and will be removed within the next few days.
proud tide
):
crimson folio
what if you move that out
proud tide
):::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
mild ginkgo
why are you sad about it
proud tide
My third world heart is dying
mild ginkgo
what
crimson folio
question:
pallid token
hexed roost
Don't worry, the DL size isn't that big
crimson folio
what would happen if u moved it out
lean wolf
50gb of dusk textures
mild ginkgo
youd keep the files
crimson folio
you'd still be able to play it tho right
mild ginkgo
no
crimson folio
darnit
mild ginkgo
its steam DRM wrapped
crimson folio
omg that kid ....
lousy attempt
am gonna go ahead and keep playing csgo on my smurf account because i lost my phone and accidentally logged out of my main
@crimson folio Jesus Christ lol
What a chatlog
Just help your mom and dad out with household stuff, make the table, clean the house, clean your dads car etc.
Or help out your family, if you have no means of getting money, i have no idea what the hell is wrong with you
hey i already do
Ok well good
Ask money for it lol
Or beg your parents
my parents are brown
i dont do work out of my own will LOL
Well be a good boy/girl and do household jobs
i do lol
And ask money for it lol
but again that just went back to what i said
my parents are brown and i dont do work out of my own will
What does your parents are brown mean
oh
maiden moth
yeah
crimson folio
you're not aware of brown ppl stereo types xdd
wtf is happening here
So you dont do work out of your own will, but want people who do work out of your their own give you a key?
no
maiden moth
tl;dr: jazz is younger and wants dusk but doesn't have the money
crimson folio
Well whatever im going to bed :p
yes
@maiden moth exactly lol
anyway im gonna see what money i currently have
yeye i got that part but this chatlog is still kinda disturbing lol
disturbing
the freak
if you compare it to the usual one
maiden moth
here's how: dm dave some long letter that will make him very happy and ego boost it (don't mention getting a key) and he'll drop you a key
on twitter
crimson folio
kk whats his twitter
maiden moth
or something funny in general
crimson folio
my life
maiden moth
i never tried this so it may not work
maiden moth
if you look on his twitter you can see he's done it a lot tho
hi dave
if you see a message from jazz puppy on your twitter
idk do whatever
crimson folio
give him a dusk key
because he's a mega freeloader
wait https://twitter.com/DaveOshry is this the twitter im looking at
Twitter
lean wolf
"low key" ๐
red gale
proud tide
is the Duskworld BETA getting removed too?
vague egret
DW beta is already gone. everything is under the normal Dusk app now
and thats the way it will stay from now on
proud tide
I hate my life
cloud forge
is that vague figure with the trenchcoat and hat duskdude?
crimson folio
alright, now a question. How do i use quake bsp format with it and can it read custom textures. and where's the loading folder? ๐
prisma ivy
I love that scarecrow
vague egret
thats @prisma halo territory
prisma halo
You cannot currently
The moddable versions of Dusk & Duskworld aren't ready for public use yet
crimson folio
go to their profile?
warped saffron
Has David experimented with the distance at which items are held in front of the player? There isn't much I'd change about DUSK but I would like items to be held closer to the player. The current distance feels awkwardly far and I get snagged up alot. :p
dim valve
i don't get "mute", I get block instead
crimson folio
yeah voice you can mute
dim valve
I mean, I'm usually the kind of guy against that kind of shit, but
vague egret
if you have issues, feel free to dm me
dim valve
nah its okay
crimson folio
oh lol, depression dude?
atomic egret
it's funny seeing jim sterling praise dusk when he used to shit all over david's older games
prisma ivy
I mean you can like one game someone made and not like another :P
dim valve
Yeah, like ROTT2013
crimson folio
some ppl even said he shit on dusk lol but i saw some of the vid i know he didn t lol
warped saffron
people still watch sterling? yikesyikesyikes
dim valve
^
people still watch a lot of weird shit man
there are probably avgn ripoffs from 2007 that are still on-going
lean wolf
even avgn is still going
dim valve
i'm talking about the random dudes with webcams screaming "fuck" at old nes roms in their mothers basement tho
cloud forge
I don't like Sterling and even TB at points because it feels like they take controversial opinions sometimes just for the sake of controversy
lean wolf
@dim valve me_irl
warped saffron
I watched hecka amounts of AVGN back on GameTrailers man. He and his crew seem like they're still cool dudes... Don't watch his videos anymore though.
crimson folio
i never watched those guys, they are too british for my taste
prisma ivy
#bnnuy-and-the-jits for youtuber talk please
crimson folio
sure chief, sry
jolly mirage
anyone go digging in to their DUSK folder there are acually hidden games in there
crimson folio
How do i put it. Jim is a case in his own. He sure knows some good topic, but he's also a neo-liberal nutcase at times. So getting good reviews from him is a mixed blessing.
@atomic egret @warped saffron @dim valve
dim valve
don't @ me bro
dim valve
yeah
crimson folio
let's go to general
dim valve
rule 1
jolly mirage
@crimson folio Rule 1
crimson folio
yeah yeah god it
untold trout
I just got DUSK
god damn this game is godly
you guys did a great job with it, honestly
im loving it
untold trout
โค
fair mirage
mild ginkgo
the ssg is SO satisfying
gleaming berry
BLYAT/10
mild ginkgo
i fell in love with dusk the moment i fired that gun
jolly mirage
Nah I like Pit better
gleaming berry
Pit is pretty gr8
jolly mirage
I found ur secret Folder
crimson folio
@gleaming berry SEMKI/10. Blyat is whore in russian.
gleaming berry
the 2d one?
opaque spindle
Cancel Dusk and just make Pit 2
gleaming berry
like the ORIGINAL ORIGINAL?
jolly mirage
yis
mild ginkgo
DOOM better in every way
crimson folio
it was revolutionary at the time. but yeah, it didn't age well
doom aged fantastically
fossil oriole
PIT is cool
I spent a good 30 minutes finding all the chips
hexed roost
RTCW on the other hand.....
crimson folio
Was very nice but got kinda jarring closer to the end
jolly mirage
The super secret folder
mild ginkgo
RTCW is sick
crimson folio
I got sickles of steel? the hell
dim valve
The real super secret folder
crimson folio
Fun fact - id actually downscaled original wolfenstein 3d. originally, i shit you not - they had planned body management (hiding corpses) and stealth.
crimson folio
yeah.
atomic egret
which in some aspects makes the new order more true to the original formula
crimson folio
sequel was such a disappointment
atomic egret
agreed
I loved tno and the old blood was pretty good too
2 just felt like they took some steps in the wrong direction
like with the 50% health for half of the game thing
crimson folio
i honestly was hoping they'll go spear of destiny route and introduce all powerful mcguffin which could rewrite history
with daemon final level included
crimson folio
wolf 2009 was garbage tho
prisma halo
Wolf 2009 is fine after a few small changes
Like upping movement speed, dismemberment for all guns, etc
spice ore
Increasing walk speed in TNO/TOB to like 560 is great too
opaque spindle
Wolf 09 had some nice death animations and shit
prisma halo
it really does
opaque spindle
Shooting a nazi and the neck and seeing him grasp for it while slowly bleeding out is pretty nice
prisma halo
dim valve
Is there a reason why Wolf 2009 is no longer available for purchase?
hexed roost
one day we gotta do NB RTCW coop
crimson folio
poor sales, negative reviews
hexed roost
that would be sick
crimson folio
it was generally a shame
crimson folio
just pirate the damn thing โข
dim valve
I take it Activision is to blame?
prisma halo
I believe it's a rights issue between Activision and Bethesda yeah
crimson folio
Just got around to playing Dusk for the first time, a bit late, but really good shit guys
chilly hound
Uhhhhh whereโs my coop dusk?
opaque spindle
Its planned to come out post-launch
chilly hound
Thatโs cool been wanting to go through the campaign killing chainsaw guys with friends
crimson folio
i am not sure why you need coop for it tho. first episode levels are tad too easy. coop will probably feel boring
atomic egret
uh...
crimson folio
i do realize that i can say the same about quake.
Y E E T ! ! !
oh this isn't swagger soul's discord mb
jk
tawdry finch
Unlocked Vertical look is the 360* thing when you jump right?
mild ginkgo
yes
dim valve
you won't if you lurk more than a week tbh
tawdry finch
Ohno
jade root
trying being a mod
tawdry finch
1 to 10 how hard is it
jade root
sucks ass / 10
tawdry finch
N i c e!
mild ginkgo
the community is certainly interesting lol
jade root
tbh
tawdry finch
Its alot more hands on and i really like that
jade root
id take this in a heartbeat over most communities
mild ginkgo
we're SUPER hands on
warped saffron
it sucks and the mods are jerks and nobody knows color theory it's awful
mild ginkgo
probably too much
tawdry finch
What you're not a fan of the ROBLOX community?
jade root
yo
mild ginkgo
jab LOVES roblox
jade root
dont @ me if you dont have a roblox account from 2007
mild ginkgo
hes got 1 million robux in his account
tawdry finch
2007 didnt happen
opaque spindle
@jade root Thank you for giving me permission Jab ๐
jade root
oh shit son
mild ginkgo
rainbow names are coming next patch
jade root
u got a roblox account from 2007
mild ginkgo
for DUSKWORLD
opaque spindle
I lost it but I know for a fact I had one
jade root
epic
tawdry finch
Ebin meme
solar totem
RainbowDusk siege World
dim valve
SUPERMANSCOCK
tawdry finch
The sniper
crimson folio
oh
tawdry finch
it was the greatest sounding rifle
solar totem
What about
Tom Duskdood's Rainbow Name World
crimson folio
lol
dim valve
@tawdry finch Yeah, I'm using the Unreal Gold sniper as one of the main inspirations for my upcoming Dusk soundpack
tawdry finch
DO IT
crimson folio
well
opaque spindle
You guys shouldn't bypass the filter
jade root
because it it leads to nasty discussions