same name on steam if u wanna add me anyway. play some ql to prep for duskworld.
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
verbal solar
desert fractal
duskworld beta is supposed to roll out during this week right
prisma ivy
Yeah, we've got a small group now. Everyone will get in eventually though
mild ginkgo
we'll be sending out invites as time goes on
for a frame of reference, its about 10 people
graceful wing
the proper beta, no. as i've mentioned a good few times the current launch window for the first wave of invites is set somewhere towards the end of the month
jaunty meteor
How do Dusk's destructible walls work? Can you set any brush to be destructible?
serene sandal
I'll add ya @verbal solar! π
prisma halo
@jaunty meteor "brushes" in the same sense as they exist in Quake maps do not currently exist in Dusk itself
but as far as the SDK goes, that's likely how it'll work
Dusk's maps (in the main game itself) are made in ProBuilder, it has a similar concept of a brush but it works a little differently
jaunty meteor
Are there any big differences that'd be relevant to someone making Dusk maps in TB/JACK?
prisma halo
I imagine there'll be something like func_destructible
and you can specify damage type, health, etc for the brush using that
jaunty meteor
That sounds about perfect and answers my question, thanks!
crimson folio
Btw, Unity level design is not based around BSPs, unlike Quake levels. Although, in my Unity game, we are developing our own version of the BSP format for side-loading, to accomodate for moddability. @jaunty meteor @prisma halo
jaunty meteor
I'd reckon Zombie already knows that much since they're making Dusk's SDK, hah
crimson folio
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
jaunty meteor
But thanks for the clarification!
crimson folio
@crimson folio thanks for the info, totally asked
??
I come from the Source Engine community so ask away
I know a little bit of everything gamedev related, as I am also developing my own arena shooter on Unity
prisma halo
I'm already well aware of all this, yes
prisma halo
Neat that you're making a custom bsp format though
crimson folio
nah it's all classified...
prisma halo
Sure, but I can't respond much currently, I'm not home
crimson folio
only i have the codes.......
prisma halo
Currently on my phone on the way to a dentist appointment
crimson folio
you gotta have GOD clearance... to even know........
jaunty meteor
Was that a Deus Ex reference or was that line in Deus Ex a reference to something else I'm too sheltered to get
crimson folio
both
hexed roost
lol
crimson folio
@prisma halo if the shortcut icon for dawn isn't dacon3 i'm gonna be upset
prisma halo
Don't tempt me
crimson folio
make it the last panel of loss
graceful wing
prisma halo
A codename, anyway
crimson folio
Neat
Call it Sickle
π
Like "Hammer"
call it shit
because it's shit!!??!!!!!!!
prisma ivy
Nice
prisma halo
on that note, I am finally home
graceful wing
the dusk SDK is shit
prisma ivy
Would rename your role if it was still just you
prisma halo
you just make poop mods with it dude
prisma ivy
π
prisma halo
that's all you do
graceful wing
yea
graceful wing
rename dusk to dump
crimson folio
^^
prisma kestrel
SDK => "Shit Defecation Kit"
torpid chasm
There should be an option to put the guns in the middle of your screen like the new DOOM did
quaint cliff
They already are...
torpid chasm
Not entirely
torpid chasm
^
prisma kestrel
[a centered sword would be "uh" :P ]
prisma kestrel
it'd need a new cocking animation though
torpid chasm
Kinda
prisma kestrel
i do like the idea but I imagine that'll be a "mod it in later" sort of thing
torpid chasm
Agreed
prisma kestrel
i oddly like the idea though :P
torpid chasm
Like a single pistol in the middle too
prisma kestrel
oh righto, that one too
quaint cliff
Sword gets a pass. Quake axe wasn't center screen either.
prisma kestrel
next patch: centered sickles, with one sickle at the bottom of the screen and the other at the top
torpid chasm
Yes.
prisma kestrel
every time you flip the sickles you stab yourself in the face and take 2 damage
torpid chasm
Someone must send this idea to David
prisma kestrel
fire the hunting rifle around christmas, and you shoot your eye out
torpid chasm
Ye
graceful wing
wake me up when brutal dusk is out
quaint cliff
Okay
torpid chasm
One of the sickles should be a hammer
crimson folio
:^)
quaint cliff
Dave, make Brutal Dusk
prisma kestrel
hidden by the IDLENIN cheat code
crimson folio
naturally
prisma kestrel
[ok maybe it should be "NBLENIN" but still]
crimson folio
oh no my message was delet
torpid chasm
Anyone remember when the hammer was the melee weapon
prisma halo
I 'member
exotic ibex
no you dont zombie shut up
prisma halo
π¨
graceful wing
π π¨ smash it
torpid chasm
π¨ 
quaint cliff
π π¨
torpid chasm
dim pawn
I remember. It was only the beginning...
indigo dock
Here's my story: "Hmm I think I'll play some Dusk. Oh wowee this sure is fun, despite it being my Xth playthrough! How could this get any better!" Cue Windows 10 telling me to update mid-boss fight. Thanks Microsoft...
quaint cliff
Rip
dim pawn
This is Dusk related, how?
crystal vessel
Color settings
quaint cliff
Everything is Dusk
opal plover
I wonder how David is gonna pull of making a whole episode in 5 weeks. The other episodes took like what two months and a half? Unless all the assets for episode 3 are already made.
mild chasm
The keys are already made so it'll be fine
opal plover
Of course!
prisma halo
we hired a team of small marsupials to finish it off
opal plover
But seriously are the textures/monsters/items already made?
prisma halo
I don't actually know, I haven't looked at any of the E3 files myself
Even if I did know, chances are I wouldn't be allowed to tell you
opal plover
I member david saying that he made a crystal that made monsters infight for E3 so I'm gonna assume that most of them are done.
jaunty meteor
Yeah, I was honestly curious about that myself
Everyone seems dead set on 2017, but if David was just finishing up EP2 and starting work proper on EP3, that seems like quite a bit of work for 5 weeks
prisma halo
I don't know how much progress has been made on E3, but in my personal opinion I'd like to think that the game would get delayed if necessary
rather than rushed out
opal plover
David will sacrifice intruders in duskworld to summon prefect level design from the nameless city itself.
prisma halo
but that'd be one heavy backlash to deal with
since everything has been dead-set on 2017 so far
rich gate
Yeah, take the necessary time.
jaunty meteor
Same, I don't have any reason to need it out in 2017 so I'd rather wait if the game needs it
prisma halo
I would like to think that the majority would understand that game dev takes time, but I'm certain there would be a very vocal group of angry people
rich gate
Iβll just keep making DooM II wads until Dusk comes out. Thatβll keep me busy.
crystal vessel
Hey guys can't wait for October 31st!!
jaunty meteor
Well whatever happens, good luck with the crunch :B
red gale
will there be default Animation rig for Skin/model makers to make stuff for Duskworld?
red gale
I fully support this action @opal plover
mild chasm
Isn't that the one that looks like Caleb but swole
red gale
pretty much
mild chasm
Given the fact that Dusk Dude literally makes the exact same joke as Caleb did at one point I accept this as canon
prisma halo
dusk 2 totally needs cheesy FMV cutscenes with duskdude
opal plover
Cutscenes mod for dusk.
Duskdude walks toward the granary like the guy at the end of blood
mild chasm
Dusk's cutscenes are just the cutscenes from wild woody
Except with caleb's model in place of woody's
jaunty meteor
Is that the guy who made the comic's model sheet?
red gale
Yo
summer otter
I prefer to think of dusk dude as the contents of the suitcase in pulp fiction
red gale
DuskDude as far as in game goes in still just a Egg with a go-pro
summer otter
mild chasm
And sickles for arms
So in that full light, Dusk Dude in your canon is actually the big dumb muscle of a guy in the mafia circa the 20s
With two holes in his back
red gale
DuskDude is really whatever you want
The main focus of dusk is the enemies and the enviroment
mild chasm
Dusk Dude has no true form, this is only the form he takes that our minds can comprehend
If we gaze at the unity pill with sickles for arms we shall go insane
red gale
My design was nesscary evil. You can get away with a character that is just a floating gun and some grunts in a FPS. In a comic i need something i can move around on a page
mild chasm
I was just busting your chops a lil bit
Though, if I may ask, why is he so swole
Is that just your style?
red gale
Style. and also having something that is so swole and yet so agile is geniunly threating
mild chasm
So kinda like the design of the leathernecks themselves in a way
red gale
he is kinda at scale with leathernecks proportionally
mild chasm
In any case that comic's probably going to end up great
Dusk dude's huge, that means he has huge guts
opal plover
DAMN HE THICC!
crimson folio
yo, where do i apply for the mp beta?
opal plover
crimson folio
thx man
jaunty meteor
@red gale Love what you've done so far, it'll be interesting when/if someone tries to tackle your DuskDude design in 3D
crimson folio
It looks like one of those "three kids in a trenchcoat" setup
When you kill Duskdude, he turns into x3 DuskChildren
opal plover
@jaunty meteor I'll try my hardest, never used blender before though.
red gale
Not a bad comparison
crimson folio
The Horror Shooter Cinematic Universe
jaunty meteor
The broad shoulders, the long upper body and arms, the "hunch"
It's a design I'm fond of!
opal plover
I just noticed that you can jump upside down if you time your jumps well.
unique ivy
new shill
vague egret
shilling EVOLVED
crimson folio
this is a momentous occasion!
west bolt
bronze nacelle
this is proof that evolution is real
slate edge
Dusk is cancelled
burnt meadow
yet again
verbal solar
dusk is still being released in 2017 yes? @slate edge
slate edge
its a meme
graceful wing
game is cancel
slate edge
AFAIK Dusk will be released between now and the end of the year or Q1 2018
verbal solar
also i was wondering cause theyve only just finished ep2.
foggy wadi
that duskdude design is fucking rad
itd be cool if it was a model in game for duskworl even if it wasnt called dusk dude
he looks so cool
serene sandal
^^^
prisma kestrel
beefy caleb
crimson folio
β I'm expecting something like that
thin sphinx
just call it artists intepretation
gloomy cypress
Usually I don't find the commentary on those kinda of videos all that interesting, but I enjoyed watching that, I'm so excited for this game haha
summer otter
thinking of dlask
summer otter
gleaming berry
ITS HAPPENING
crimson folio
wow i actually need this
gleaming berry
BATHE IN IT
crimson folio
Is that a Fight Club reference... about the soap?
no its just that jefe really fucking likes bacon
and soap is the best weapon in the game
modern trellis
I demand Duke Bros plush dolls.
serene sandal
OH MY GOSH YES! I'm SO HYPED for the Collectors Edition!
summer otter
Dusk scented thoughts and prayers
damn an indiebox
disgusting
I love me a good box
slate edge
Can we have a Dusk Brick?
crimson folio
giant red splodey barrel with dusk written on it
sick lintel
ffs my game settings configuration got reset again
time to re adjust to my new mouse sensitivity π
bronze nacelle
valve has taken over dusk
ep2 will be released after valve time
ep3 is cancelled
crystal vessel
funi meme
frozen heart
sick lintel
new high score
sick lintel
ciero
graceful wing
nice π
sick lintel
thanks
slate edge
i killed 42 on duskmare πΆ
sick lintel
whoa pro
slate edge
duskmare is hard, its both duks and a mare
summer otter
we lost the four part dacon
I will remember
we lost the four part dacon
I will remember
slate edge
duskmare is hard, its both duks and a mare
crimson folio
How did the F and F DuskWorld test go? Did us plebs get to hear about any fallout from that or is it still very mystery?
vague egret
F&F is still ongoing but initial play tests went well
tweaks are still being made
lots of good feedback π
hexed roost
We ended up dinking around for 2 hours the other night, people seem to be enjoying it and each day we're making progress towards opening the flood gates. There's still a fair bit of work that needs to be done, but steady as she goes.
crimson folio
who is the worst guy. throw us a name that we may taunt him to bide the time.
mighty dagger
Definitely that Intruder guy
hexed roost
I HATE THAT GUY OMG
mighty dagger
He's like the worst
prisma kestrel
oh man, real life dusk soap
just don't drop it on your foot, else they'll be cleaning your gibs off the showerhead for weeks
serene sandal
With great power comes great responsibility.
prisma kestrel
on the flip side, bathing with it successfully will make you impervious to damage
it's the world's first bulletproof soap
crimson folio
I make sure to bathe my flip side every day
hexed roost
Do not attempt to perform backflips in the shower with DuskSoapβ’. We are not responsible for any broken necks.
dim valve
Question for David Szymanski: approximately how much Daikatana influence will be seen in the inevitable sequel to Dusk? Will you get the original voice actors for Debbie and Marcus back for NPCs?
prisma kestrel
"I can't leave without my buddy Black Phillip"
dim valve
Marcus is still doing roles, apparently. Good for him. http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Marcus-Mauldin/
prisma kestrel
brick 4lyf
prisma kestrel
i remember doing like a triple take when hearing superfly's voice for the first time
"wtf i know this actor from somewhere, dammit brain", etc.
dim valve
Can we get Hulshult on behindthevoiceactors for his engaging role as "HUP"?
thorn trout
@dim valve I actually did the "hup" noise :3
dim valve
Wait, what? Hulshult said differently on his Twitter, unless I was reading it wrong? Gotcha, ALMOST all of them.
toxic wadi
it's a very good hup
dim valve
Almost as good as carmackbunnyhopnoise.wav from Quake III Arena
dim valve
David, when the game is finished, you really do need to look into implementing OpenAL Soft or Unity's "Steam Audio" in a future patch. Check out this UT99 footage with OAL HRTF enabled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA10HNpdxzw
jaunty meteor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BltHXngvlk Here's a better video showcasing HRTF
sick lintel
but face jones DAVE OSHRY did tweet a few snippets of the DW F&F night
but not much
that vid is great flotilla ty
dim valve
I'm actually not a fan of CSGO's HRTF. It's not very good at pinpointing height, unlike the custom HRTF tables for OpenAL Soft. You shoot a grenade off a ledge in YamagiQuake2, you can hear it bounce and explode under your feet.
tawny briar
is there going to co-op campain
jade root
Post launch
toxic sage
so whats the deal with duskworld? when is the beta going live?
tawny briar
now
toxic sage
How do I access it?
exotic ibex
there are applications in #356090071876763648
vague egret
see #356090071876763648 for the sign up
toxic sage
i filled out the form and everything
exotic ibex
its a very limited release at the moment. we're still in a friends and family state.
toxic sage
been maening to ask about that too
whats the tm about?
like is it THST soon?
*that
exotic ibex
its just a joke. soon β’ usually means no ETA.
but when i say its soon without the TM
i mean yeah, its actually pretty soon.
toxic sage
i hope soon enough
toxic sage
also where do i find this #356090071876763648 ?
exotic ibex
its under the important tab on the side.
up at the top.
theres important, new blood games, and community.
alternatively click that tag
toxic sage
oh i found it
exotic ibex
s'all good
tawny briar
my friend cant beat e1m2 on go ez what do i do with him?
crimson folio
think you may need to consider putting him down
tawny briar
thats what i was thinking about. He did not stop asking me what to do next
woven orchid
Grab your buddy, tell him your going on a hunting trip. Then have a "hunting accident".
It's the only way really.
jaunty meteor
Accessible?
indigo dock
Quick story: While going through Ghost Town and picking up the SSG, I manage to kill not one, nor two enemies with one blow, but FOUR at once.
serene sandal
Woah sick!
indigo dock
'Twas so.
dim valve
ngl Dusk has one of the best SSGs since Doom 2. At this rate, I'm not going to even care when Doom 2019 comes out and you get to face the Pain Elemental and 11 other Lost Souls at once.
serene sandal
^^^
exotic ibex
daily reminder: there is nothing wrong with pain elementals or archvilles.
crimson folio
so are you, BITCH
serene sandal
Pain Elementals are.....a pain.
crimson folio
jk
jaunty meteor
Run into a room while your minigun/plasma rifle aren't out? enjoy SKULLS
indigo dock
Basically, yeah.
dim valve
daily reminder: someone out there on the zdoom forums is one day going to make the painvile and the entirety of the doom community will collapse
indigo dock
Dawn: A super modernized shooter filled with microtransactions, a 20 second singleplayer campaign, and a broken multiplayer system feat. a pay to win system! All for the low, low price of one human child!
PS: May actually contain the tears of those who made it.
Whoops.
flat juniper
thanks 'friend', so are you!
crimson folio
no you aren't
graceful wing
No one is
crimson folio
stop LARPing in the worship zone
graceful wing
Cause dusk is canceled
mild chasm
If I give your mothers a blood transfusion would that mean that I am a family member
crimson folio
no
mild chasm
Why not?
summer otter
crimson folio
anyway, pain elementals are the bomb
they create gameplay dynamics and force you to mix things up every time they show up, now you have to punch through, you can no longer take out the horde at your leisure
crimson folio
I like the idea behind Pain Elementals, but they have a bit too much health, and 3 lost souls on death is really annoying
prisma halo
You can prevent the lost souls from spawning entirely if you run right up to the pain elemental as it dies
it tries to spawn the lost souls but you're in the way so they all die instantly
crimson folio
true tactix
i figured this out by accident as my preferred mode of killing things is, run through them as the SSG vaporized them
And if it's in the air or behind a wall?
just fire an extra rocket beyond the killshot π
graceful wing
Thanks
atomic egret
all praise be to shillbot, protector of the keys, second coming of dave, WIIIIIIIILLLDDD woody
charred gorge
is the duskworld beta going to support listen/dedicated servers? or will we be limited to playing on official ones?
slate edge
dedicated i think
vague egret
You will be able to host your own servers
crimson folio
dedicated for sure
charred gorge
cool
is it possible to get custom maps in the game atm? I think Unmutual mentioned that bsps need to be converted to some Unity pack format?
crimson folio
Yes
With their SDK
Q1 type BSPs are supported, I think @charred gorge
(Speak with @prisma halo for more detail)
prisma halo
Q1 & Q3, although it's still WIP (there's a bunch of steps in between currently)
crude forge
still waiting on a response on that bug tester application
graceful wing
You'll be waiting for a bit longer. The first wave is going to go out somewhere towards the end of the month probably
crude forge
oooohhhh boy my favourite
graceful wing
Patience pls
crude forge
i love waiting
graceful wing
We'll announce it when the keys have been sent
crimson folio
@prisma halo how much Q2 support is there?
prisma halo
there's zero (intentional) support for q2bsp
crimson folio
it's my favorite out if the 3 because it's the only one i know how to configure nodraws for
prisma halo
if q2bsp works, it's by accident
crimson folio
lmao ofc
prisma halo
not that I'd rule out supporting it in the future
crimson folio
my luck
prisma halo
It probably wouldn't be too hard to support it, I'll see
crimson folio
oh, it's not a previous add-on?
prisma halo
I offer no guarantees though
crimson folio
it's handmade?
crimson folio
yes
prisma halo
Yeah, 99% of the code in Dawn is completely original
the 1% being a small handful of libraries such as PhysFS for VFS (lets you use zip, 7z, folders, etc for mods) and MiscUtils for its Operator<T> class
crimson folio
damn boy
makes sense though
is it all in unity rn or are there external subtools
prisma halo
The idea is to avoid modders needing Unity at all
prisma halo
Yeah, where necessary
which is basically just maps
it's similar to ZDoom modding, if that puts it into perspective
crimson folio
that does
so it's main thing is managing files in the unity asset file?
is that why you reverse engineered that?
prisma halo
I mean, fonts have always been a bitch to work with in my experience with ZDoom modding
so I figured I might as well put a little extra elbow grease into that area
crimson folio
so, iirc the prelim mod package format was gonna be unity asset packs
that still the case?
prisma halo
Unity asset bundles were never going to be for anything other than a temporary format to store the main game's levels in, while I work out a way to convert them to bsp
Asset bundles are created in-memory to load fonts, but that's about it
the modder never has to deal with them since they only exist for a brief moment in RAM to read a font
crimson folio
oh
shit, guess i really need to read up on how unity works when it comes to resources
prisma halo
Most of that would be irrelevant in the case of Dusk
I've tried to abstract away pretty much anything Unity-specific
prisma halo
Pretty well
I'd post the DOS loading screen code as a sample for how stuff works, but there are still some incomplete features in use there, so it's heavily subject to change
crimson folio
go for it anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
prisma halo
have the draw function
public override void Draw()
{
if(completed) return;
// add all active prompts to the string builder
for(var i = 0; i < Math.Min(progress, prompts.Length); i++)
sb.AppendLine(prompts[i].Value);
// calculate the reference resolution
var height = 240f;
var width = (float)Math.Ceiling(height * AspectRatio);
SetReferenceResolution(width, height);
// draw a black screen
DrawFill(new DrawArgs
{
X = 0, Y = 0,
W = width, H = height,
Anchor = Anchor.TopLeft,
Color = Color.black,
});
// draw the text
DrawString(sb.ToString(), new DrawArgs
{
X = 5, Y = -5,
W = width, H = height,
Anchor = Anchor.TopLeft,
TextAnchor = Anchor.TopLeft,
FontSize = 7,
Font = consolas,
});
// clear the string builder for the next draw
sb.Clear();
}```k00l spam
prisma halo
the other code not seen in the above snippet basically just loads fonts, sets up the lines of text to show, and handles the timings
crimson folio
man, such pretty looking code
prisma halo
I try
graceful wing
discord needs spoiler boxes
prisma halo
yeah, that would be infinitely useful
crimson folio
it's called "block"
mild ginkgo
I've seen the dos demo work, it's quite nice
graceful wing
blockhead !!!!
crimson folio
cheddarhead
mild ginkgo
Rest assured, zombie is on the job
crimson folio
i trust in zombie
prisma halo
the one you saw was slightly different, using timings that I guessed by eye
crimson folio
he's a good boy
prisma halo
I was surprisingly accurate though
graceful wing
ye he\s got this
mild ginkgo
Yeah, it WAS
prisma halo
only off by a few milliseconds on some of the lines
crimson folio
nice
prisma halo
private KeyValuePair<int, string>[] prompts =
new KeyValuePair<int, string>[]
{
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "fakeDOS 6.66 activated"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(25, "..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(25, "c:/games/dmclns/dusk/dusk.exe"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(25, "loading..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "************************"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "* DUSK *"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "* c2017 New Blood *"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "************************"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(50, "initializing 3d engine..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "render mode: software"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(25, "checking sound card..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "-soundboomer enabled-"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(40, "checking system..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "minimum specs OK"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "-------------------------------------------------"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(25, "loading monsters..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(15, "loading weapons..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(15, "loading lights..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(20, "loading sounds..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(5, "loading particles..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(10, "loading gibs..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(5, "loading blows..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(50, "loading levels..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(0, "OK"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(5, "building lookup tables..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(5, "precaching..."),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(15, "***************************************"),
new KeyValuePair<int, string>(50, "LOAD SUCCESS!"),
};```it's perfect now though
exact same as the E1 build
(time units are in game ticks, which are 50ths of a second)
mild ginkgo
I would wait for Dawn to reverse engineer it
prisma halo
implying there's anything to reverse engineer :^)
mild ginkgo
You don't really wanna fuck with some of the scripts as is lmao
prisma halo
Yeahhhhhh
mild ginkgo
I love you david
prisma halo
some of them are pretty scary
mild ginkgo
I'm just as bad, and I know it
prisma halo
hahahahaha
mild ginkgo
We have zombie as a guiding light
crimson folio
You guys this is not robot talk channel this channel is for DUSK
mild ginkgo
Lol
mild ginkgo
We need more maps for duskworld
mild ginkgo
We spent an hour and a half across only two maps last night
One of them had like 250+ frags
crimson folio
just fill surfcity with temp ents
something for TCRF
take three screenshots and tease em
@mild ginkgo fact, I'd actually love too see where people would place stuff based on the geo
mild ginkgo
I'd place everything on top of the cliffs as a huge fuck you to the player
mild ginkgo
That's accurate
crimson folio
that whole map is integrated jank
fuck I know you have way more important things to do
but I'm dying
thinking about just using named ents
and sending them to you
idk if that works in q3 format
burnt meadow
gimme sdk and i'll stomp something out :D
mild ginkgo
That would work
You can always just use trenchbroom
That's our official support goal
Anything beyond that is unannounced or unplanned, or a hopeful dream of ours
burnt meadow
(maps i mean)
mild ginkgo
Would I like a real time in game level editor? Yes. Will we have the time to work on it? Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I know @prisma halo and I have talked about it before
prisma halo
The singleplayer campaign's maps aren't currently, but the plan is to convert them
Custom maps are bsp, however
mild ginkgo
Bsp is the planned official map format
crimson folio
mild ginkgo
We'll see if we end up with a level editor down the line
crimson folio
bsp's weakness is brackets
prisma halo
π π«
crimson folio
quik question
the SP maps have purposeful holes in em
how we gonna pull that off in mapeds?
new brush ent?
prisma halo
not sure
crimson folio
ah ha!
ah haha!
also wondering if you're gonna worry about making the bsp light importer look like prebaked unity lighting
crimson folio
also it's currently a pain to get skytex lighting to work
maybe it's a JACK thing
or a WAD thing
but I had no luck
mild ginkgo
Look man lightmaps are the biggest brick wall here
prisma halo
yeah
mild ginkgo
It's a nightmare
crimson folio
I had no idea
mild ginkgo
I spent like a week on them spinning my tires in the mud
prisma halo
it's... actually possible to support using enlighten
but it requires the unity editor
so it'd be a totally optional thing
mild ginkgo
Basically you need a massive array of data
mild ginkgo
To find every face of an object, and the light data pertaining to that face
prisma halo
- Load BSP map in editor
- Programmatically bake lightmaps
- Read lightmap data and save it in the same form as regular lightmaps
mild ginkgo
And you need to do that with everything in the scene
prisma halo
lightmaps themselves are a simple concept
they're basically a texture overlay
it's generating them that's hard
way beyond my current skillset (hence relying mostly on quake tools π )
mild ginkgo
Light.exe π
crimson folio
why don't you just make everything fullbright except for the HUD and other players which are 000000 in hex
maximium contrast mode
lmfao
prisma halo
reminds me of what happens in the airboat chapters if you enable HDR in HL2
because valve didn't put all the files in there
crimson folio
dusk tc 4 quaek?????????????????ΓΓΓ
crimson folio
idk actually
mild ginkgo
@elder glade yes actually
the duskworld dedicated server is running on linux
:)
we havent yet validated a linux build of dusk proper, but i dont forsee issues with it
elder glade
That makes me a happy panda.
worldly thorn
Sounds awesome. A friend of mine is going to be happy when I tell him =]
verbal solar
@radiant venture have u played duskworld?
west bolt
who has acces to duskworld right now anyways?
west bolt
if hes near I may sneak into his house and play it over night
radiant venture
@verbal solar no
west bolt
kugh, I mean bravely wait untill I get acces
west bolt
dusk canceled
dreamy snow
I will play duskworld
prisma ivy
Soonβ’
rocky nacelle
Wasn't DuskWorld cancelled?
jade root
not as cancelled as AE
rocky nacelle
"We are cancelling DuskWorld to work on DuskWaifu, the upcoming visual novel dating sim spinoff to Dusk" - Dave, probably.
prisma ivy
LEAKS!!!!!
crimson folio
duskworld more like dustworld because no one plays it
bronze nacelle
dusk is a nintendo switch exclusive now
slate edge
Dusk will have motion controlls managed by xbox kinect
prisma kestrel
dusk will utilize powerglove in one hand and zapper in the other
bronze nacelle
you need to pay for a monthly membership to play duskworld
sick lintel
gibe dooskwold
half cape
you must purchase [insert things true gamers hate: today's hatred, lootboxes] to play duskworld
half cape
Still better than Toxikk's base :^)
@dim pawn any piece of media that allows you to fire a gun and has people getting shot is related to dusk obv (color settings my dude)
formal turret
has this beta started already or something
half cape
No, it's just a gag one of the mods started.
hexed roost
That's untrue, a handful of select people have been playing with us for a few hours each night these past 3 days.
We're currently in the process of getting Duskworld in a state that will allow us to get more of you in and playing.
quaint cliff
Baby maps
formal turret
i was told
there would be a notification when they're sent out
even if you dont get accepted
prisma kestrel
jade root
who told you that?
hexed roost
There's actually 5 maps in the current build
We have no plans on informing people if they were NOT accepted. We will let you know when the first wave of invites goes out.
rocky nacelle
Man imagine if it was your job to tell people they're not selected lol.
crystal vessel
lmao better luck next time! xd
jade root
klokworkk ur not accepted lmao l8r loser
serene sandal
Like that scene in the Fred movie where he hands out univitations for his birthday.
And yes I referenced the Fred movie lol
rocky nacelle
Rippo
serene sandal
Both lol
slate edge
John Cena tho
mild chasm
John Cena's such a good guy he helped make a movie starring a mentally disabled kid
dim valve
As much as I'm anticipating DUSK E2 and E3, I'm definitely NOT looking forward to hearing Rich Evans and AIDS Moby's inevitable opinions on DUSK.
crimson folio
who
mild ginkgo
lol i dont think RLM are gonna cover dusk
bronze nacelle
who
dim valve
They will, though, and it will be the most lazy clickbaity video possible down to Rich proclaiming 90s shooters were never good to begin with.
jaunty meteor
"Well Mike, what did you think of Dusk, by New Blood Interactive?"
[Mike turns towards the camera, which slowly zooms in for ten seconds straight]
crystal vessel
differentgroup
jaunty meteor
I want to live in an alternate universe where Mike and Jay did vidya instead of movies, they're so entertaining
dim valve
Rich is going to have a whole segment on why 90s shooters are unfair based on a 30FPS recording showing that you only have 8 frames to react to a Black Phillip's spit.
bronze nacelle
probably going to complain about the graphics
crystal vessel
Yeah I hear Rich and Jack's channel isn't very good
verbal solar
I can't wait to hear LGRs thoughts on the full game. as well as gggmanlives.
mild chasm
I wanna hear ICARUSLIV3S's opinion on the full game
hollow minnow
I actually like RLM, but their videos about games aren't good
sick lintel
duskworld?
jade root
key π ±roke
verbal solar
man i cant wait to play duskworld
exotic ibex
well see now you fucked it for all of us. we cant open the door if you tried jamming a spaceman key in there.
looks like duskworld is canceled
earnest thicket
real talk, why havent I gotten my invite yet to DuskWorld...
side note, ordered the Razer phone last night
stoked af for it to get here.
Can't wait to play dusk on my phone.
mild chasm
ducks*
earnest thicket
in the meantime though, anyone wanna do some OW 3s with me?
exotic ibex
exotic ibex
i dont care what the punchline is.
earnest thicket
It was Dusk related.
exotic ibex
was it?
earnest thicket
yeah.. I didn''t wokr out all the details yet, but that's the beauty of impro.
improv.
hexed roost
For the record, we haven't sent any invites out yet. You'll be notified when they go out.
summer otter
prisma kestrel
it's an key
summer otter
enjoy, my friend
prisma kestrel
an greatly thank's
dim valve
Duskworld players, I need some spoilers to hype me up some more. Is there a 2v2 basketball mode anywhere in DW? I want to see the Intoxigator slam dunk.
serene sandal
No, but there is a 10v10 shuffleboard mode. Oh crap spoilers.
slate edge
There is soap...
hexed roost
Please don't spoil the Rocket League / DUSK MP crossover...
half cape
tbh I'd like to hear RLM do that to FPS games, only because people think Doom 2's midgame was perfect :^)
dim valve
Fun fact: the only people who will ever say Doom 2 is a bad game are from the Doom community.
crimson folio
I actually like doom 2 more than doom 1
half cape
Doom 2's good, but the key hunts are not.
crimson folio
That they aren't
there's a bunch of good levels and a bunch of terrible ones in doom 2
people in the doom community are actually pretty divisive on the subject
half cape
^
crimson folio
I think doom 2 is better and more professionally designed while doom 1 is fun, but has some issues
dim valve
Still waiting for the unofficial compilation that filters all the Sandy Petersen maps into one IWAD.
crimson folio
so doom 2? :v
half cape
REEEEEEEEE
but yeah, every time people go "DAE COD? DAE MODERN FPS?" all I really need to do is point to DooM 2's fucking midgame and keyhunts :VV
dim valve
I unironically think Quake E4 is the best Quake 1 episode. Doomworld would freak if they ever heard someone say that, though.
crimson folio
I actually haven't tried quake ep4 yet
because there's a recurring pattern with level design in older episodic id games
they spend most of their efforts on the first one, and they only really bother learning their lessons in the last episode
dim valve
E4M1 is by Willits IIRC, the rest is all Petersen. Similar map design to Doom 2 midgame, but with complete darkness and some complex scripting for the time.
half cape
That sounds right, Hdoom.
dim valve
When they brought back Doom E3M4 for Doom 2016, I couldn't even believe they'd waste their time.
Also Dusk is good, Dusk is great, please don't ban me Oshcuro
dim valve
Does anybody have color option settings that give Dusk an ugly teal-and-orange color scheme? I want to play cinematic mode to the fullest possible extent, complete with SweetFX-injected motion blur and Troy Baker saying "Hup" modded in.
balmy sluice
The goats always ruin my good runs >:(
exotic ibex
goats are fucking rough m8
balmy sluice
I think I die more to them then the scarecrows on duskmare
dim valve
I pointed out to the developers that Black Phillip is currently the only monster that doesn't have a distinct wind-up sound effect before it attacks.
balmy sluice
Even if it was subtle. it would be good to have.
dim valve
Someone rip the Chex Quest flemoid attack sound and put it on the Steam Workshop day 1
hexed roost
He was in for a short peroid of time during some of the first DW tests. However he isn't in the current DW build. He ~might~ return in the near future, he might return and be dev only, we'll see.
dim valve
I'm not looking forward to the Duskworld sexual RP servers that are nothing but the Cowgirl skins bunnyhopping up against eachother.
jade root
can you not repost that everywhere
dim valve
They're nigerian, also sorry. It was the only screenshot I took and I was too lazy to crop the meme crap off.
jade root
DirtyThunder, is your steam name Volcanic_Lightning?
dim valve
Yeah.
jade root
that makes sense
dim valve
I was going to name myself "PatriciaBaggins" and have a little edited Mighty Switch Force sprite as Frodo as my avatar, but I thought it would be too much effort.
mild ginkgo
glad to see you finally posting in here
dim valve
How's the DW testing going? You get those weapon suggestions I made 2 months ago?
mild ginkgo
yeah , however a lot of them were based on assumptions you made :P
jade root
we prolly ignored them tbh
prisma halo
lmao jab
dim valve
It's okay, just as long as Riveter isn't overpowered.
mild ginkgo
yeah, they were good suggestions
exotic ibex
its not
exotic ibex
its pretty good in tight spaces though
worldly thorn
Soap is OP though. It needs a nerf
dim valve
Ha ha, nice. Is the Mortar okay for setting traps up like the Biorifle in UT?
mild ginkgo
i mean the biorifle is like the worst gun ever so no
exotic ibex
theres a particular room where i like to use the mortar and never leave the room.
lol
mild ginkgo
but yes, it can control space
dim valve
Well, there's nowhere to go but up from the Biorifle.
mild ginkgo
lol
exotic ibex
i liked the biorifle :(
woeful sonnet
Its useless
exotic ibex
its not completely useless
it does a fuck ton if you nail them in the face with a full charge
but ye its not great
lol
woeful sonnet
A neat idea but it needs a buff
exotic ibex
flak cannon is best UT gun
dim valve
On my recent playthrough of Unreal Gold, I kept dying when I'd go through the door after killing Skarrj because the sludge would still be stuck to the door and explode as I'd go through.
exotic ibex
i'll give that
woeful sonnet
Flak cannon is the best cannon
dim valve
What about the Serious Sam TFE cannon?
woeful sonnet
But tis not a shotgun cannon with ricocheting rounds so tis not best cannon
exotic ibex
nah
mild ginkgo
its just really OP
crystal vessel
I like firing a cannon through a horde of kleers
crystal vessel
It doesn't have that oomph true
dim valve
That uh, Halloween game I was posting snapshots of in #gami_g actually has a flak cannon rip-off in the blunderbuss.
mild ginkgo
lol
exotic ibex
flak cannon needs to be in more games!
dim valve
It even steals the Q3 shotgun sound.
exotic ibex
thats a good sound to steal
woeful sonnet
Theres a doom mod called dead that has it and it is awesome
dim valve
Yeah but they pitch-shifted the pump part to try and make it sound less copyright infringing. (didn't work)
worldly thorn
Hm, Jedi Outcast had a flak cannon kind of thing
dim valve
Literally the same game. @thorn trout, you may have a lawsuit on your hands.
thorn trout
oh nooooes, we've been found out!
toxic wadi
man.. thats messed up
dim valve
David, just listen to Jadeware's C&Ds okay? I don't want Dusk to end up like Pokemon Neutron or whatever the hell it's called.
sick lintel
riveter is good its like the soldier in tf2
hexed roost
stoooooop
sick lintel
u can even rocket jump with it xD
jaunty meteor
Oh, I have a follow-up question about something I asked about in august
Is Dusk already set up so that enemies/DuskDude move along with any moving walls/doors/platforms they're standing on top of?
tawny briar
what is that game?
jaunty meteor
Zombie said that there were tentative plans for func_train-type entities, but I don't want to make any assumptions about how Dusk handles player/NPC physics with platforms
mild ginkgo
well thats never been used
like i dont think anyone has attempted it at all
so uh
UNKNOWN
jaunty meteor
:o
jade root
YOU COULD BE THE FIRST
jaunty meteor
If no @ new blood beats me to it, I'll definitely see how it works the second I get the SDK
Death Wish really inspired me with how NPCs ride in on trains, snowmobiles, all sorts of cool things
Bless build engine
dim valve
Wow, you're planning on making all these fantastic levels with Leathernecks driving 18 wheelers...and the only thing I can think of doing when I get the SDK it is finding a way to put that one Head Like A Hole MIDI into Dusk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5k7XUroC-M
red gale
The bass line sounded like something out of doom to start with anyways
dim valve
Play at 0.5 speed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDq_vYHHnqw
prisma kestrel
eck, i'm un-thrilled with the choice of soundfont
dim valve
Gotcha, FTFY
lethal frigate
jaunty meteor
That's the plan!
jaunty meteor
They're pushing hard for 2017, but aren't averse to pushing it back if it comes to that
woeful sonnet
Tbh I think it'll be a miracle if it gets release this year
Heck probably a "christmas" miracle!
fossil oriole
santa busts through the wall with dual wield shotguns and a copy of dusk in his mouth
atomic egret
half cape
hott
opal plover
I am seriously questioning how dusk could come out this year, let alone january.
But if Dave Oshry is so confident in it releasing before christmas, I'm sure that means most assets/level layouts for E3 are already done.
mild chasm
Everytime Dave kisses his muscles, a single asset is finished instantly
That's why he's constantly doing it
He's actually doing it for us
And also to make loads of money that too
The problem is that the asset is random
It could be for Dusk or it could be for Amid Evil or any New Blood game
That's why the game's not finished yet
gleaming berry
Lol
mild chasm
Amazing, I've been blessed. Time to go shoot myself with a gun made out of soap
gleaming berry
Well to be honest DUSK will probably be done by then but there's Steam sales in the way of a release date so it might slip to 2018
We'll see
You'll get DuskWorld tho
COMPROMISE
mild chasm
Kiss your muscles even faster
crimson folio
What if AE comes out first lol
opal plover
Well how will an entire episode and it's soundtrack be made in three weeks?
mild chasm
Very carefully
graceful wing
it's not like we haven't started working on ep3 a good while back already
mild ginkgo
graceful wing
oh GOD
opal plover
My god bring this to #meme-review ! Actually bring this back to #hell were it came from.
frozen heart
opal plover
Will there be an enemy in e3 that could thematically be put in a string of levels loosely spoofing army of darkness?
fair stone
i heard about some ominous thing called DUSKworld rolling out now
how may one get access to such pleasure?
opal plover
#356090071876763648 for signups, people will be selected relatively soon.
fair stone
i see. thank you
graceful wing
make sure you fill out your contact info correctly, important stuff
verbal solar
id really like to see it come out this year. been patiently waiting for months now.
novel badge
lol @ shillbot playing Brutal Dusk, just noticed that.
mighty dagger
Loooll
winged otter
still waiting for brutal hatred
edgy crystal
Okay, so new here, and I just finished DUSK episode 1.
It was glorious. I adored it. Can't wait for episodes 2 and 3.
Also that little surprise after the experiment boss fight. That was cheeky. I love it.
plain canopy
Final boss is like "EH!YOU THOUGHT WAS END!"
graceful wing
Glad you liked it π
edgy crystal
I had no idea the mortar was in the game, that was a nice surprise
Just wish Iβd found the riveter, it sounds so amazing
Found plenty of ammo for it but never found the riveter itself lmao
graceful wing
It normally shows up in ep2 but there are a couple ways to find it in ep1
edgy crystal
So Iβve heard
jade root
ye you can get it as early as E1M2
edgy crystal
Secrets I believe
jade root
yepperoni
edgy crystal
I just didnβt manage to find it
jade root
check on top of the corn maze
edgy crystal
...dammit I was so close and I didnβt realize it
I got on top of the corn maze at one point but didnβt think to see if yβall had planned for that
graceful wing
Just play with a mindset of "if you can get somewhere there's probably a secret there"
woeful sonnet
What's funnier is the 2nd experiment isn't the final boss of episode 1
quaint cliff
Also Dusk has a mindset of "fuck it, why not?"
bronze nacelle
fuck it why no microtransaction?
graceful wing
Duskworld requires a monthly subscription to play btw
jolly mirage
Dusk is looking great π https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rndac-jWaPo
(yes I know its the wrong game)
Seriously tho there are like 3 other games called dusk
frozen heart
So metal gear survive? 
rocky nacelle
Lol
gloomy cypress
Rip lol, I saw somebody talking about how it was probably not something you want to fund because that account had a bunch of unreleased games and was only asking for $15,000 to fund the game
rocky nacelle
Doesn't say why. I bet DuskDude found him
edgy crystal
duskdude broke in and shot him with the riveter
frozen heart
frozen heart
Episode 2 reveals and duskworld
crimson folio
Ah shugs
I better ask now or else Im gonna get something wrong
Where can I post my Dusk related shitpost in drawn form
vague egret
frozen heart
Depending on how much of a shit post it is
crimson folio
oh boy, off the meme factory it is then
untold elm
E1M4 has a weird texture bug.
exotic ibex
yeah, we know. haha.
crimson folio
spoopy ghost crates
mild chasm
It's for christmas
They're covered in snow
Pay no mind to them it's totally on purpose
crimson folio
I actually had another THeory
they're flourescent cum cubes
also @crimson folio dope avi
ayo thanks my dude
lootboxes
Dave tried to hide them
and we found'em
dim valve
El Oscuro thinks we're all his meme-spouting, Dusk-shilling personal army. https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/931249423602016257 Well, I object to this claim; I think Dusk has serious issues with its level design and enemy placement being disproportionate to each other. I also think there needs to be some kind of dolphin-dive to make sliding more useful while bunnyhopping.
I think it was Max Payne 2 that let you keep sliding during a shootdodge.
slate edge
its sooooo bright! my eyes!
crimson folio
also Bunnyhopping still misses some speed
dim valve
If you land after a bunnyhop, you retain some momentum. If you slide and cancel it really quickly, though, it completely shits up your momentum and feels awkward.
I really don't slide as much as I should because it breaks the flow of BHopping so much.
crystal vessel
I only ever slide when fighting scarecrows
dim valve
I do too, but then it gets me killed during Endless Mode when that sombitch's pellets just happen to veer down and right.
crystal vessel
Sounds like a personal problem
crimson folio
@mild ginkgo checko DMs
hollow flame
Wew
wary briar
π€