#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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crimson folio
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one thing i noticed

mild ginkgo
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so it may help you, but we are also looking at improving the low spec mode

crimson folio
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low spec mode still leaves on a hefty amount of smog

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oh nice

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there ya go

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smog, smoke, and colored particle effects are there in loads so having a variable toggle would be lovely

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not sure if particles emit dynamic lighting but that would be a good check too, iirc it's easy to toggle in the unity engine

mild ginkgo
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they do not

crimson folio
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ah good

mild ginkgo
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and its no so simple in unity for that specifically, but thats way beyond the scope of what dusk is doing visually

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they use all sorts of nonsense for lit particles

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its actually really bad

crimson folio
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oh damn! that's rough

mild ginkgo
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we dont need it so no worries :)

crimson folio
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ig i'm too used to godot so i interpret other engines as being simple

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and yeah who needs dynamic lighting in 97'

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mild ginkgo
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unity isnt made for humans

crimson folio
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^

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so e1m7 shits the bed pretty hard for me, it's really the particles i think

mild ginkgo
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but yeah, before dusk properly comes out youll probably have better options when it comes to improving performance, especially regarding particle effects

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its a balance between @thorn trout 's visual intent and performance

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having no particles can really detract from an area's mood

crimson folio
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that is true

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and that's awesome news

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i'm sure it'll be really optimized for the smaller maps in duskworld when that comes out

mild ginkgo
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but yeah, its a topic thats come up internally a few times, we're very likely to significantly lower, or eliminate particles in low spec mode

crimson folio
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that's wonderful news!

mild ginkgo
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at least when it comes to your weapons

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especially using the ssg causes some performance issues

hexed roost
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know that prior to dusk's release, we spent hours upon hours trying to squeeze performance out of it for you guys. i'm a firm believer in letting EVERYONE play. there's a reason that so many games like DOOM, Quake, GTA SA, etc are still enjoyed, because people can run them

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there will be more passes on low-spec mode, don't worry

crimson folio
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^^^^^^

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where the fuck can i throw more money at you

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i'm tossing my wallet and debit card at the screen but nothing's happening

quiet rose
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Just enjoy the game :)

hexed roost
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just share the idea

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the more people who appreciate bad hardware and crappy situations, the more developers that'll actually remember y'all

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because all of us have been there

crimson folio
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i'm going to share it everywhere

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man you guys are hands down the greatest devs i think i've seen and i've been around many

hexed roost
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;___;

crimson folio
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i'm gonna finish gushing over episode 1 now~

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'i have the feeling

mild ginkgo
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thats the producer actually, and yes

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@gleaming berry

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Did you press E on it?

crimson folio
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lmao i knew it

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no!

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i'm gonna go back and do that, i died

mild ginkgo
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press E on everything

crimson folio
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will do~

mild ginkgo
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also we just discovered a bug thanks to you

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somewhere along the line low spec mode wasnt working quite as intended. it brokededed

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we'll include the fix in the next patch

prisma kestrel
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dammit every time i get to that picture i have to check behind me to see if Dave will materialize out of thin air like he did when I was playing it in the BYOC

mild ginkgo
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lolol

prisma kestrel
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[this actually happened; it was the best possible timing]

crimson folio
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"appears to be a cult leader"

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omg

mild ginkgo
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lol

crimson folio
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when duskworld mp comes out i'm going to become a shut in

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this and the momentum mod will be my new addictions when they release

mild ginkgo
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lol

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soon!

thorn trout
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@crimson folio out of curiosity, does low spec mode seem to give you better fps?

crimson folio
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it does for sure, but by a relatively marginal amount

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if low spec mode in it's current state was turned into more of a toaster mode it'd really kick up the fps

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mainly with particle effects, everything else shouldn't be too much of an issue

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@thorn trout

thorn trout
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well we discovered it's not doing exactly what it's supposed to so there will be a patch soon that fixes that, which will hopefully help somewhat.

crimson folio
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i'm positive it will~

thorn trout
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does the framerate tend to dip when you're firing or in specific areas of a map?

crimson folio
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not when i'm firing, that's fine, just when it's an open area with lots of lighting and when i'm indoors in a house and there's a bunch of smog effects

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lamp lights (idk if they're using vertex lighting) are a ok where as some candles that give off a red light in caves can affect it worse

thorn trout
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almost all the lights in Dusk are baked so they should have 0 effect on the framerate

crimson folio
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in that case it could be the effects inside the caves and indoor areas then

thorn trout
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environmental smoke should be disabled in low spec mode. Are you seeing it anyway?

crimson folio
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yep!

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lots of it too

thorn trout
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wat

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hmm

crimson folio
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i can reboot the game and show you

thorn trout
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let me do some tests first

crimson folio
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me rn

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some of them are disabled and some are still lingering

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come to think of it

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a lot of smoke comes from bullet impacts so firing repeatedly can lower fps

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when i booted the game, i had low spec mode enabled but with the particle effects still showing

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when i re enabled it they disabled the effects

thorn trout
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yup that seems to be an issue

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working on it now

crimson folio
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thanks man!

thorn trout
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np

crimson folio
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and firing turned out to pretty gnarly, i thought it wasn't an issue

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i shot at an enemy with the assault rifle and circle strafed him closely and it tanked my fps

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and if i go close to a wall where lots of impacts just were the smoke will smother fps

thorn trout
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yeah those effects should also be turning off in low spec mode. Pastch will fix that soon

crimson folio
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woot

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also this

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green smog

mild ginkgo
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it used to work i swear!

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#buglyfe

crimson folio
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just beat the 1st episode

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great stuff~

mild ginkgo
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now find all the secrets

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and the super secrets

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we're gonna have your framerate fixed right up too

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so hopefully youll be able to enjoy yourself more

crimson folio
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praise dusk

exotic ibex
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praise be to de_dusk

jaunty meteor
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Speaking of "super secrets", how many of those are there?

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I know about the hallowed health in E1M2 and the soap in E1M10, are there more?

crimson folio
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The hell even is a super secret? Didn't notice any differences from regular secrets.

gleaming berry
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secrets that dont even count as secrets

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thats how secret they are

jaunty meteor
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Yeah, some older games like Blood had secrets which were so well hidden that the developers didn't make them count towards the secret tally since it'd be unfair for people trying to get 100%

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Dusk has the same dealie for some secrets

foggy wadi
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super secrets are my favorite

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i hope episode 2 and 3 have more

gleaming berry
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MAYB

neat wigeon
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Every map has a soap @jaunty meteor

jaunty meteor
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I know that much, but not every one of them is a super secret :p

neat wigeon
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I mean I didn't feel they were that secret at all

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I found all of them

jaunty meteor
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That's what I mean

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I was talking about super secrets, not soap

neat wigeon
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Ahhhh

pulsar bough
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Deletos

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:(

opal plover
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First of all why does duskdude look like a thiccer version of caleb

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And will he be a character in DW

fossil oriole
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I dig his hat

elder glade
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I'm getting Liefeld vibes from this.

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That's not a good thing.

jaunty meteor
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Duskdude is a treasure hunter, I think the indiana hat is fitting considering

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Though it does have caleb vibes

opal plover
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But most importantly HE THICC

elder glade
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inb4 he thicc memes

desert fractal
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As I’ve seen before there is no actual depiction of the duskdude but a pill

opal plover
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Guys I'm creating a wiki page for the scarecrows, should I refer to them as possessed scarecrows or something else?

vague egret
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scary strawboys with shooty sticks

jaunty meteor
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All the enemies have proper names, not sure what the scarecrow's was

opal plover
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Lain please

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I already made pages for the leathernecks, black phillips, mages and fork maidens

mild ginkgo
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its just scarecrow

opal plover
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Thank you mister

mild ginkgo
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at least, internally

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its a fan wiki

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so you are free to call it whatever

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we made that wiki for you guys to fill out

summer otter
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I vote for calling him Jefff

mild ginkgo
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just like how the intoxigator has a different internal name

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hes called AlleyGator

rotund glen
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Alley gator, I love it

mild ginkgo
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david is hilarious

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and Soap is called Zoap

opal plover
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I'lltakeyourkeysyou'redrunkgator

mild ginkgo
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the sword is called Daikatana

opal plover
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LOvely

rotund glen
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Heh nice

summer otter
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the aforementioned internal names forever heretofore become external

mild ginkgo
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have you ever looked at a dusk save file?

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most of it is plaintext

summer otter
mild ginkgo
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blameitonthealcohol

opal plover
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Are the experiments called "friendship"

mild ginkgo
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i HONESTLY forget

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let me go check

opal plover
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I saw it in a Zombie vid

mild ginkgo
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well zombie can also name stuff how he pleases, in fairness

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hes writing the sdk so he gets to choose names that make sense

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(to him)

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they are horse and smolhorse

prisma halo
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"Friendship" is the original name for the boss

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It's what shows up on the health bar if you just spawn the boss regularly

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The internal names have always been horse and smolhorse though

jaunty meteor
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Can you place bosses in maps without their health bar appearing? If I wanted to have intoxigators be a normal enemy and have 3 of them in a map, for instance

mild ginkgo
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yeah ofc, especially so with dawn

jaunty meteor
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Woo!

opal plover
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Guys I made a wiki page for each E1 enemy, do I get a cookie?

mild ginkgo
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🍪

jaunty meteor
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Now calculate their HP and damage values for every difficulty!

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Also calculate their pain percentage, their speed (in map units per second), and how many of each appears in each map of Episode 1!

opal plover
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It's gonna be a piece of cake when DAWN releases.

prisma halo
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I have a lot more freedom to change how things work with Dawn, so I'll be making non-boss variants of each monster

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They won't necessarily be used in Dusk itself, but they're handy for user maps

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monster_intoxigator vs monster_intoxigator_boss, etc

jaunty meteor
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That's super considerate, thanks a ton

opal plover
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Will you be able to turn regual monsters into bosses?

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Or more specifically groups of monsters

prisma halo
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I don't see why not

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I don't forsee such a feature being built-in at sdk launch, but it wouldn't be too difficult to make yourself

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and it's possible for it to be added officially down the line

jade root
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Hey guys

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Found a rare photo of Andrew working on Dusks OST

opal plover
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savage

graceful wing
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Accurate

fair mirage
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rude tbh

opal plover
graceful wing
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Run spook.exe

urban sparrow
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@jade root has been removed from chat

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;-)

jade root
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still here

urban sparrow
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HOW DARE YOU

graceful wing
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... Unfortunately

jade root
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hey you know the command to remove me

urban sparrow
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"Sweet release"

jade root
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.kick
k
i
c
K

urban sparrow
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@opal plover ep2 and 3 have some pretty uncomfortable ambient tracks.

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I recorded only the finest garbage cans with the finest trash.

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Tha best

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Ya gonna love it

opal plover
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My eardrums are ready

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For maximum spookyness

urban sparrow
jade root
urban sparrow
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Source material

mossy gust
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Smolhorse

urban sparrow
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@jade root doing his best QA

jade root
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sorry what playing castleavaina doom on NG+

mossy gust
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I need to finish that

jade root
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beat it on normal then do bloodmoon

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bloodmoon is fucking amazing

mossy gust
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What’s different about it

jade root
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new items/enemies

mossy gust
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Fuck

opal plover
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Hey you two

mossy gust
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Yes Dad

opal plover
mossy gust
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FUCK

gleaming berry
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full e1 duskmare

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legit

opal plover
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Nightmare keyboard only with one hand.

hollow flame
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Maybe one day you can finish episode 1 on normal difficulty dave

crude forge
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nightmare with intruder mode but you have to play on an old ds with broken l and r buttons

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and lots of dead pixels, which isnt very helpful on a 144p display

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oh sorry i mean 192p

potent kestrel
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do you like dusk pie david?

slate edge
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Duskmare isnt too hard as long you arent in a confined space, rats tho.....

gleaming berry
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RATS R WORST

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DELET

uneven belfry
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You know tbh you could sample both those sounds and manipulate them a lot

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Ive sampled pipes running water and got a really trippy screeching/screaming effect

crimson folio
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if you're not running consumer electronics through effects pedals through consumer electronics you're not living

novel pawn
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Yeah I beat ep1 on duskmare about a month ago it just takes so save scumming.

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Also I only have one legit complaint about dusk and it's the rats, I just hate them with all of my being

potent kestrel
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fucking rats

novel pawn
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I feel bad for saying this but I just think they're ugly and also on duskmare they will literally fuck your ass

mild chasm
junior bobcat
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👌

mild chasm
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Dave, is one of the E2 bosses going to be the giant rat that makes all the rules

crimson folio
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I think having an enemy that you absolutely fucking hate is a great thing. Quake had Shamblers, Doom 2 had Pain Elementals, etc. That feeling of "On not these fucking guys" makes it sweeter to blow them away.

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Maybe the ooze is a better parallel in Quake than Shamblers, but you get my meaning.

mild chasm
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Archviles were that enemy for Doom, not Pain Elementals

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Pain Elementals were just slightly annoying

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Archviles and Revanents are more along the lines of being properly dreaded

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Because they're so stupid

crimson folio
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Alright fair enough. Either way, I like how much I hate the rats in Dusk.

novel pawn
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I guess that's a good point, but I love shamblers they always give me a run for my money on nightmare when they all team up on me haha. I hate the blobs that explode on me way way more

crimson folio
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I cannot fucking stand the slime hoppy fucking things in Quake.

novel pawn
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@crimson folio same

crimson folio
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If any enemy ruins my nightmare speedruns, it's those fuckers.

novel pawn
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They travel at breakneck speeds and will do 100 health in a split second

crimson folio
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I love how they're intentionally designed to get all in your shit and so that they can ALSO be used as a bomb against enemies but they are like playing hot potato with a live grenade.

novel pawn
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Sometimes I just run haha, shooting them will cause death 50 percent of the time

crimson folio
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^

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I lead them around vores, toss a grenade or rocket and run.

novel pawn
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Also fuck vores

crimson folio
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Not worth in nightmare any% anyways. I've never done 100% runs of the game.

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I love vores personally

novel pawn
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Me too not as much as shamblers tho

crimson folio
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Cannon fodder's all fun but a target that actually gives you gunfights is lovely

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it's why i prefer quake's ttk vs doom's

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quake has much more emphasis on gunfights and targeting certain enemies

novel pawn
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I wish quakes enemies were a little less spongy but they're way more fun than dooms roster

crimson folio
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agreed

prisma ivy
crimson folio
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o right

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) hey @prisma ivy i have a dumb question

prisma ivy
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Sup

crimson folio
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are there going to be lots of new enemy varieties after ep1?

prisma ivy
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Yes, each episode has new enemies.

crimson folio
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wooooot

mild chasm
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A lot of new enemies

crimson folio
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noice

mild chasm
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If you watched the EP2 preview you would have already known that though

prisma ivy
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He just got here

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Check the pins to find the PAX preview

mild chasm
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That is, if you wanna see exactly what the new enemies are

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Along with E2M1 and E2M6

novel pawn
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Can I just point out how hard Old Religion is on duskmare because of the room full of rats

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I save scummed so hard

prisma ivy
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Yeah rats go from minor annoyance to most deadly enemy in duskmare lol

novel pawn
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Rats > Failed Experiment

mild chasm
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That room is actually rather easy if you take the first gas can with you down the hole

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You throw that at the first couple and then before you step onto the AR which is the trigger point for the rest of them, you grab the gas can out of one of the crypt holes

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I think there's a third one in there you can use if a few too many survive as well

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Nice one shillbot

novel pawn
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I have to go play Dusk again, it's been about a month since I beat it on duskmare

crimson folio
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

thorn trout
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@mild chasm there's also a flame barrel in the room right before the rats, so you can set them all on fire if you want

frozen heart
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I've only made the mistake of using the fire barrel once

thorn trout
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it's fun

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dozens of flaming rats everywhere

frozen heart
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I usually just leave that bottom plank on the door there so they can't get through

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Then I used the barrel and the fire broke it

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Now I just have rats on fire

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Help

thorn trout
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hahahahaha

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get rekt

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suicide flaming rats

frozen heart
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It's like trying to use fire to kill zombies. Now the zombies are just on fire

mild chasm
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Depending the type of zombie that's either effective or just going to lead to you being on fire too

elder raft
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MSI hath arrived! Now I can play DUSK in style!

crimson folio
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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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so dusk bhopping isn't really bhopping

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its more like a turok diagonal run w/ strafejumps in between

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and i love it

bronze nacelle
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It's strafejumping

novel pawn
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It reminds me of when I first learned about straferunning in Doom... those were the days

mild ginkgo
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all i have to say

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is get ready for DPMA

fair mirage
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oh boy

mild ginkgo
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i WILL make that mod

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you can be sure of that

fair mirage
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i can't wait for people clamoring to ask "HOW DO I ENABLE PICMIP????"

novel pawn
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What is a dpma

fair mirage
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a play on the quake 3 mod, challenge promode arena (CPMA)

novel pawn
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Oh okay thanks

prisma ivy
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I will always picmip

fair mirage
prisma ivy
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:)

burnt meadow
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hmmm

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question: do i have to own dusk already to be eligble for duskworld beta?

west bolt
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yes

summer otter
burnt meadow
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damn :D i was actually waiting before i get it incase if i play EP1 now and fall in love I don't have to torture myself with waiting for the rest

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walks to steam store

west bolt
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thats sounds like a good ideal

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could have saved ,me a lot of torture

burnt meadow
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:D

west bolt
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but i'd buy it for the beta signup if I were u

burnt meadow
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already on it

west bolt
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but you don't have the game?

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well, they wan't your steam id, so if they choose you and you don't own the game on steam, there prob gonna choose someone else...

gleaming berry
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I mean having the game pre ordered is definitely a plus lol

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I mean why wouldnt you at this point

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at some point we're gonna let everyone in who pre ordered

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but like after we do the initial smaller tests

west bolt
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but its not necesery?

gleaming berry
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nah

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but also please give us your money 😃

west bolt
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I did ^^

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and will again, i'm gonna buy it for a friend

burnt meadow
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like i said, i was trying to save me some waiting torture :D

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but now its installing

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so i guess its inevitable

mild ginkgo
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@burnt meadow wait a short bit, like a day or less

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we have a patch coming

west bolt
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@burnt meadow Give us ur feedback after you played ep1 😃

mild ginkgo
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it could improve your experience

west bolt
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0.0

burnt meadow
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aaight will wait, just hope I didn't blew my beta chance by now^^

west bolt
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more details pls

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no

mild ginkgo
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no youre all good

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we arent checking when people bought the game etc

west bolt
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they have yet to choose

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and there will be waves of invites

mild ginkgo
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thats correct

crimson folio
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i was the first guy to buy it digitally

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iirc

mild ginkgo
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the only person we are strictly denying to the last wave is kooch

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jk

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and yes , you were

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for the 17 seconds it was available

west bolt
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its on gog too?

mild ginkgo
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on humble

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my bad

west bolt
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oh

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kk

crimson folio
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yeah i bought it during the half-minute it was accidentally for sale

mild ginkgo
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OOPS

west bolt
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lol

crimson folio
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lmfao

west bolt
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for how much?

mild ginkgo
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20$

crimson folio
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same price

mild ginkgo
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it just wasnt supposed to be out yet

west bolt
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oh lol

analog sable
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lol

mild ginkgo
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we accidentally set it live

crimson folio
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i didn't get the key for like 7 hours

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so win some lose some

mild ginkgo
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yeah you like went to sleep or something

west bolt
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hope that won't happen with the full release xD

crimson folio
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work

mild ginkgo
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i remember because i didnt sleep for like 3 days during that launch lmao

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the full release is in 2022 so you dont have to worry about it

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SHIT I LEAKED THE RELEASE YEAR

west bolt
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so early?

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damn!

mild ginkgo
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lol

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we were initially gonna do 2098 but we cut episodes 4-30

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so we were able to project 2022

west bolt
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👌

jade root
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Even then

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That's just when the mod tools will be done

west bolt
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but what is gonna change in the new update?

jade root
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Not the full game

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So youll just get those

mild ginkgo
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bugfixes mostly

west bolt
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and when is the steam workshop gonna release?

jade root
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Post launch prolly

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Or on launch

west bolt
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didn't have any bugs untill yet and got like 15 hours

mild ginkgo
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well we like to make sure it stays that way :)

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also performance improvements

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so youll get even MORE frames for your money

west bolt
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yea, it was unplayable on my mothers pc

slate edge
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Has anyone made a bootleg android version of DUSK yet?

west bolt
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but that may have been cuz her cpu was like 100 degrees celcius

mild ginkgo
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TIME TO DO AN ANDROID BUILD OF DUSK

west bolt
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after that a dos version pls!

slate edge
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everytime you fire your weapon in DUSK android, an unskippable ad plays

west bolt
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nah,. would be too often, what about everytime you pixelate it to 1 pixel per enemy

crimson folio
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@mild ginkgo if dpma isn't a meme

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how would you do air control

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keep it the same? reduce it to allow bhops

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ?

mild ginkgo
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i would copy the physics of cpma.

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1:1

crimson folio
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ahh noice

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i would play that religiously

mild ginkgo
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so would i

crimson folio
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cpma / pql is my fav way to play quake

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but that's why i just play quake 1 lul

misty spindle
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Where can I report bugs from Episode I ?

crimson folio
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yes

mild ginkgo
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here is fine

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forums work too

misty spindle
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Steam forums ?

mild ginkgo
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yeah

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either one will get seen

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im here to help right now if youve got one to report

misty spindle
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So as I'm french, I'm using a french keyboard so my computer is set to french keyboard basically.
But when I want to grow up or reduce Dusk display with "=" or ")" it only works with "=" key, and my HUD just vanished and I can't get it back with ")" key.
Thing is : it works perfectly well when I set my system keyboard to "ENG".

I think people arleady complain about the time it takes to Quick Save/Quick Load in the game, but I also found it too slow and it sort of breaks the game fluidity.

mild ginkgo
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are you playing a very old build of dusk? that save thing was fixed ages ago

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its easily under half a second now

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but yeah, thats a good point about the hud scaling

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if you need to retriieve your ui, theres a parameter in dusk.ini called uitoggle you can use as a temporary fix

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ill make sure we investigate the issue your french keyboard issue

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the default bound keys for the UI are + and - btw, im not sure why itd be different on the french keyboard, but im certainly gonna find out!

misty spindle
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I meant that I can get it back by seting the system keyboard to "ENG" by pressing Alt + Windows key, I can then use ")" or "°" (same) key and get the HUD back and make the screen game tiny.
= is also + are on the same key.

mild ginkgo
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well im not well versed with the french layout quite yet, but i will be by the end of this :P

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as for the save/load thing

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which part is taking too long? saving or loading?

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the saving this SHOULD be incredibly fast

misty spindle
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I just played Doom, Quake, and old school shoot, where it's instant. But it just that I press Quick Save and I feel like that everything is stucked (not the game) for half a second or so and it breaks the overall fluidity of the game, and makes me avoid Quick Saving.

mild ginkgo
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it should be well under half a second, maybe .25 seconds

misty spindle
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And it's not a "bug" thing, but you can't spam quick load button, you have to wait a little before quick loading again.

mild ginkgo
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yeah that was intentional

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to prevent exploiting

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iirc

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i could be wrong

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@thorn trout ?

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anyways if the game isnt saving roughly this fast

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let me know

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hopefully david will let us know about the quickloading thing

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and ill look into the keybindings issue

misty spindle
#

It saves fast but when you do you are stuck for a little amount of time and I believe it kinda breaks the fluidity of the game. Certainly to fix the teleport by saving bug. ^^

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And I found the game way too easy in Cero Miedo! :D

mild ginkgo
#

well its just episode 1

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wait for ep2

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it gets significantly harder

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i promise

thorn trout
#

yeah there are a lot of little things implemented with saving/loading to prevent issues

mild ginkgo
#

theres God's word

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with a capital G

thorn trout
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lol

misty spindle
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We are not worthy of you !

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I mean if you have full ammo for the Riveter and Mortar you can beat the final level in last than 1:27 minutes... anyway mods will fix those problems :D

exotic ibex
#

you can beat it in less than :20

misty spindle
#

Yes but if you kill the bosses it takes less than a minute...

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I just wished Episode 1 was way harder

mild ginkgo
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then wait for ep2

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ggez

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or make custom nuts.wad version of episode 1

verbal solar
mild ginkgo
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david is awesome

verbal solar
#

such a beautiful looking game. spot on david

thorn trout
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thanks!

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and yeah ep2 is harder, don't worry

verbal solar
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ohhh

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cant wait

thorn trout
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if you need a challenge for now, don't forget about Duskmare and Intruder mode

verbal solar
#

i actually discovered this secret in reverse btw

thorn trout
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oh lol

verbal solar
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i went out of bounds and then came into the level

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at least now i know where it is for next time

crimson folio
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bring back savehover

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savehovering was the shit

verbal solar
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what is that?

crimson folio
#

you could quicksave to cancel out gravity and vertical momentum

bronze nacelle
#

what's that?

crimson folio
#

and fly all over the place

verbal solar
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sounds cool

crimson folio
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it was patched out

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i miss it dearly

verbal solar
#

even errors that are funny to the gamer can be annoying to a programmers perspective though

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probs why the patched it out

thorn trout
#

most of the fun glitches in Dusk were left in, but that one was just too damaging to speedruns

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turned them into just "mash quicksave"

crimson folio
#

#

fuck speedruns

verbal solar
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yeah fair do0s

misty spindle
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Yes but Saving still breaks fluidity

verbal solar
#

why fuck speedruns. speedruns are amazing and dusk is the perfect game for it

crimson folio
#

no savehovering category

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done

verbal solar
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cause of the games amazing movement

crimson folio
#

@verbal solar that's why it was so fun

verbal solar
#

the cross bow is like the best tool for glitching imo

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use it to bounce around out of bounds

hexed roost
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we should have left in the enemy duplication from save/load

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i loved that glitch

thin sphinx
#

this glitch?

verbal solar
#

oh

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something i meant to ask about

crimson folio
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haha rip scarecrow glitch

thin sphinx
#

savefiles are in the descreption FYI

verbal solar
#

i was playing dead of the night a few days ago and whilst glitching around i found an unused room with some enemies in it. there were little measurements on the walls.

thin sphinx
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that room stoes the enmies that teleport in

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used in quake and doom alot too

verbal solar
#

ohhhhhhhhh

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thats interesting

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never knew that cheers 😃

thin sphinx
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yep

crimson folio
#

ohh yeah that's why there's so many empty rooms outside the map

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and ones you can also teleport into as traps

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neato

verbal solar
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i never knew they were actually in the level the whole time

thin sphinx
#

i think HL1 stopped doing that though and used a sepcific entity to make the xen portal effects

verbal solar
#

that is so cool

crimson folio
#

neato

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nah hl1 did it

thin sphinx
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it did?

crimson folio
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trust me, i have played a lot of hl1

thin sphinx
#

must be thinking of black mesa since i have more experiance with black mesa

crimson folio
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could probably speedrun it

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unlike dusk

thin sphinx
#

ive got 800 hours in HL1 alone

crimson folio
#

wew boy

thin sphinx
#

rough estimate though since stea m doesnt track HL1 mods as half lfie hours

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or sven coop

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ive got almost a 100hrs in just sven coops steam release

crimson folio
#

fuck i love Sven coop

mild ginkgo
#

that game is 💩

thin sphinx
#

sven coop 5.0 i used to run a server for

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had a great time with people there

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half the server fell out the tram and i had to enable players clipping with each other so we could get to the next map

west bolt
#

I got a new setup for dusk 😃

thin sphinx
#

please share

west bolt
#

are you sure?

thin sphinx
#

i find my self enthralled

west bolt
#

I will defenetly win all championships with it

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so idk if I want to share it

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whatever

crimson folio
#

WoAH

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also >no music

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lame

west bolt
#

yea srry

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last time I played I had my own music on....

mild ginkgo
#

great setup

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10/10

west bolt
#

thx ^^

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that old logitech steering wheel as a delay of like half a second xD

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my dusk esports career can start now 😄

crimson folio
#

1270 hours remaining

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wat

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ok

mild ginkgo
#

the update where you get e2m1 is the same update where you get e3m10

crimson folio
#

thats a good way of putting it 500

slate edge
#

anyone else who upvotes is heretic

serene sandal
#

Thank you Shillbot!

mild chasm
#

Good one on ya, shillbot

gleaming berry
#

SHILLBOT show Episode 2 game play jeeez

toxic wadi
#

poor little guy is behind on the times dude. doesn't even know about ep2

warped saffron
#

So will Ep. 2 drop when it's done? Or will 2 and 3 release at the same time?

thorn trout
#

2 and 3 will release at the same time

elder raft
#

except they won’t because dusk is cancelled

thorn trout
#

that's true

warped saffron
#

Wow I knew they would run off with the pre-order money!

gleaming berry
#

If you guys would have let us do Early Access

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we could have released like Episode 2

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and then 2.5

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but nooo u want a finished game

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ok fine whatever

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THATS WHAT U GIT

jade root
#

2.5 is just a sequel to Fingerbones

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done in, like, 30 minutes

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with Andrew's` horrible stellar voice acting talking loudly over the entire thing

mild chasm
#

Not actually narrating the game, mind you

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He's just talking about something entirely unrelated

slate edge
#

You should play ROTT 2013....

mild chasm
#

Like what he had for breakfast 12 years ago that day

fossil slate
#

Howdy

novel pawn
#

I'm playing quakes mission paks and I'm really starting to hope that Dusk has an enemy similar to the shambler

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Without spamming nails the best way to kill him is to get close and personal but if you're not careful he will literally claw your anus out

mild chasm
#

That's probably the Wendigo

novel pawn
#

The what now?

crimson folio
#

yes

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

prisma ivy
#

New enemy type

mild chasm
#

The Wendigo

crimson folio
#

basically actual folklore slenderman

mild chasm
#

E2 enemy

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No, not slenderman

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Not even close

crimson folio
#

skinnyguy's based off of wendigo folklore

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though they're totally different lol

mild chasm
#

Wendigos are people who are transformed into maneating monsters after consuming human flesh regardless of circumstance

novel pawn
#

Damn

crimson folio
#

yes ik

mild chasm
#

Not tall men in suits who kidnap kiddies

novel pawn
#

But does he shoot lightning tho?

crimson folio
#

skinwalkers are pretty relevant

novel pawn
#

That's the real question

crimson folio
#

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

mild chasm
#

Dusk's version might

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We haven't gotten to properly see them in action

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Just a quick preview of Dave running and screaming

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from one

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when trying to talk about the level he's playing

novel pawn
#

I saw the E2 thing but maybe I didn't watch to the end bc I don't remember that

mild chasm
#

It's fairly easy to miss actually but Dave does point out it's the wendigo after it happens

timid pumice
#

i j u s t b r o k e o u t o f m y p r i s o n t o d i s c u s s d u s k e p 2

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jabronii whwat the fuck

woeful sonnet
#

So.... We have about roughly a little under 2 months til the end of the year, does a release this year still feel feasible? I ask that mostly with the context that the game still has alot of work left last I heard.

jade root
#

keep up with that text effect and ill mute you m8

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and yes dusk is fine

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plz no worry

#

all is good

prisma ivy
#

Yeah you'll see it soon enough

woeful sonnet
#

I wasn't worried I was more do curious, again just seemed to me from some of the chatter the game had awhile left in the oven. More than two months that is

jade root
#

i mean

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we werent gonna do a shotgun release

novel pawn
#

Maybe e3 is done and they're just memeing you

prisma ivy
#

makin vidya takes time

fair mirage
#

(the fuck is a shotgun release)

crimson folio
#

like a shotgun wedding i imagine

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sudden and without warning

jade root
#

ye

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we werent gonna drop ep1 then release the full game a week later

fair mirage
#

oh

novel pawn
#

Also I hope Dusk has a really monster heavy secret level, something like the one I just played "Edge of Oblivion" in the quake mission pak

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That would be lit

mild chasm
#

E1MS was fairly monster heavy

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I think it had like 10 or so wizards in one big gulf

jade root
#

Sawdust has that giant pit full of monsters too

novel pawn
#

Yeah that pit was hectic but I mean like unrelenting amounts, every once in a while I enjoy a slaughter map although these monsters are a lot stronger than say dooms are

crimson folio
#

I love the monster pit

mild chasm
#

I don't like slaughter maps even with OP gameplay mods

novel pawn
#

I don't want overkill

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Just for one secret map I think slaughter is okay

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But more than that and it's repetitive and boring

mild chasm
#

It's like here's 50 spider masterminds carrying cyberdemons and 75 archviles in between them all and while we're at it here's a couple of chaingunners hidden away in killhole cupboards you can't hit without the BFG which we will never give you

crimson folio
#

nuts.wad

mild chasm
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The only slaughter in a slaughtermap is the slaughter that the demons make out of your ultra-ded corpse

crystal vessel
#

maybe if ur bad lol

crimson folio
#

come to think of it russian overkill and nuts is a great mix

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i need to install that

timid pumice
#

On the topic of episode 2. Will there be more levels like E2M6?

mild chasm
#

I don't think it's all that reasonable to make me fight a room full of spider masterminds with naught but a pistol with no secret shotguns or anything hidden about

crimson folio
#

i don't think they're trying to make you fight in that case

mild chasm
#

That's right they're trying to make you die

crimson folio
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

timid pumice
#

k

mild ginkgo
#

so whos excited for the patch?

timid pumice
#

What patch? I'm sorry I spent the last half an hour spamming jokes.

mild ginkgo
#

bugfixes and performance improvement

timid pumice
#

Cool.

mild ginkgo
#

yeah its not all that exciting

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except to people with toaster pcs

mild chasm
#

Did you guys finally learn color theory

mild ginkgo
#

like @crimson folio

timid pumice
#

IK but at least it's still improving the game

crimson folio
#

yep lol

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i am extremely hype

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i'll replay dusk ep1 with much more enjoyment nao

novel pawn
#

@mild chasm it doesn't have to be like that. I don't wanna run around shooting away at 50 cyberdemons. Look up "Edge of oblivion" it's a quake map and it's loaded with lots of vores and shamblers. Basically you can go at it two ways: run and gun or very very carefully haha

crimson folio
#

^

timid pumice
#

sounds like fun

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imma download that

novel pawn
#

It's part of the mission pak haha

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It's a secret map

timid pumice
#

so imma not download that but buy it from steam

novel pawn
#

There you go hahaha, I just finished Armagon now I'm on dissolution of eternity. It's the only thing holding me over until dusk comes out

timid pumice
#

I'm replaying Arcane DImensions right now.

novel pawn
#

I've been wanting to play that, is it good?

timid pumice
#

Dude, it is fantastic.

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The levels are sprawling

novel pawn
#

I feel like projectile instead of hitscan shotgun is gonna throw me off

timid pumice
#

It's not that much of a difference

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Plus it makes the shotgun feel better to me

#

Wait that was a contradiction

novel pawn
#

A little bit lol. I'll definitely try it at some point

timid pumice
#

You really should.

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Also, may someone change my name? Anything but inmate 6969 will do

mild ginkgo
#

there you go

timid pumice
#

k

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thx man

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Quite the improvement

mild ginkgo
#

you can change that yourself btw

timid pumice
#

o ok cool

crimson folio
#

the crime count increases

mild ginkgo
#

right click on your name

timid pumice
#

yes

crimson folio
#

@timid pumice forgotten sepulcher had me melting happiness

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such a good damm map

timid pumice
#

indeed

crimson folio
#

same with p much all of arcane dimensions

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i enjoyed the lava castle a ton

timid pumice
#

My favourite also the sepulcher

crimson folio
#

so much ATMOSPHERE HNNNNNGGG

timid pumice
#

indeed

novel pawn
#

Quake honestly gives me jumpscares still

timid pumice
#

Quak is scary gam

gleaming berry
#

fukin Arcane Dimensions

#

2 hour maps

#

madness

#

real nice hto

stone thistle
#

anyone know if arcane dimensions does work in coop via LAN?

glossy gulch
#

pretty sure every quake mod works in LAN with the right engine

jaunty meteor
#

Does Dusk adhere to a set color palette?

#

I'm curious if anyone had it, if it does

fair mirage
#

it does

#

but i dun have it :(

jaunty meteor
#

Heck

modern trellis
#

My wireless mouse just kicked the bucket, and all I wanted to do was play Dusk.

fair mirage
#

rip

modern trellis
#

I'll have to use a track pad...ewwww

#

I know it's a sin, but does Dusk have that controller support that was mentioned a while ago?

fair mirage
#

indeed it does

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but you're stuck with the config it gives you unless you do joy2key or use the steam controller API config nonsense

modern trellis
#

Hmmm. Let me see if my roommate has an extra mouse first...haha.

mild ginkgo
#

the controller plays SURPRISINGLY well

#

like genuinely

quiet rose
#

^

#

I had no issues personally trying out controller a while ago.

modern trellis
#

Welp. Controller it is.

steel wind
#

There are worse fates.

strange blaze
jaunty meteor
#

???

steel wind
strange blaze
#

idk

#

look in it

steel wind
#

You mean the doom Minecraft? Yeah i saw that.

strange blaze
#

one of the few non cancer minecraft youtubers uses a doomguy skin

#

xisumavoid

jaunty meteor
strange blaze
#

idk

#

only active channel

#

:p

modern trellis
#

So now my God damn cursor got frozen in the middle of my screen and I had like 2 steam pages pop up over Dusk. I had to just reset my computer twice. All I want to do is play this game for like 10 minutes.

jaunty meteor
#

Can Dusk do localized fog? Like making a large invisible brush and setting the area inside it to be foggy while keeping areas outside of the brush normal?

mild ginkgo
#

you could yeah

#

but not really how you think

modern trellis
#

Unity has to do localized fog as a material.

mild ginkgo
#

you would have some sort of trigger to tell the global fog settings to apply when you enter the areas you want

modern trellis
#

Like a fog shader on a mesh.

jaunty meteor
#

Oh, that's even better actually; much cleaner than having the entire area be filled with a brush

modern trellis
#

Er well that's how my professor did it.

mild ginkgo
#

but it means you cant see the fog from outside the area

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your professor made fog you could see externally

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which is definitely very cool

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but using the acutal fog system in unity, there is no real localized fog, so youd fake it by tweaking the fog settings

modern trellis
#

Can confirm.

mild ginkgo
#

theres a third option

#

if you know anything about setting up volumetrics

#

but uh

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dont.

#

i guess 4th option is particle effect

#

so really theres a lot you could do

#

something like that

jaunty meteor
#

Hmmm, I'll probably end up going with a trigger since that seems to be the least headache-inducing

mild ginkgo
#

id probably do a combo of a fog trigger, and a particle system

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that way you can subtly roll in the global fog but keep the fog visual externally

#

but yeah the fog trigger is more "authentic" to the period

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a 90's era fps would never have a mesh, volumetric, or particle fog

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too perfomance heavy

jaunty meteor
#

I'll probably end up experimenting with my options when I can, sounds like I'll be able to do whatever I want regarding fog though

#

Which is good! That's all I wanted to make sure of really :B

modern trellis
#

On another note. Windows 10 is garbage, and I still have yet to play Dusk 45 minutes later.

woeful sonnet
#

I have never had an issue with it.

#

Your not using the creator one or whatever it was are you?

hexed roost
#

Windows 10 is fiiiine

modern trellis
#

Finally got to play it with a controller. Not too shabby.

mighty dagger
#

Gj shillbot I love you

jaunty meteor
#

How were the rain effects in E1M2 done?

#

Was it a bunch of particle emitters that're only placed in outside areas?

mild ginkgo
#

Nope

#

just one particle system

pulsar bough
#

Imma buy dusk to my friends next payday

#

We need to wololoo more peeps

jaunty meteor
#

I've shilled as much as I can for a game that's not out yet

crimson folio
#

a mod for dusk but as a 1:1 perfect quake clone

hexed roost
#

i am modding dusk into a gory first person hockey game sorry

crimson folio
#

dusk works best as a visual novel

#

(´・ω・`)

mild ginkgo
#

Dusk quake already exists

#

thats no prob

summer otter
#

🌹

burnt meadow
#

good morning

timid pumice
#

morning

serene sandal
#

Why good morning Shillbot!

vague egret
graceful wing
#

Ey you might actually forget to buy dusk in your morning haze

#

Shillbots got your back tho 👍

thin sphinx
#

h b bvhnkkkkkkkkycvxbhgvchbgjhgjkolghfyvghfjkbni

#

where the coffe

mild chasm
#

Mornin' to ya shillbot

woven orchid
#

you guys see the review from GGGman about amid evil?

#

shit wrong channel

#

please don't kill me

fair mirage
thorn trout
#

shoot

#

there fixed

jade root
#

e🅱ic

fair mirage
#

that kinda looks like in zelda: link to the past when link holds shit up over his head

thorn trout
#

@jade root 🅱anne🅱

#

new duks update

mild ginkgo
#

the hell

fair mirage
#

duks

#

where?

thin sphinx
#

when

thorn trout
#

now

#

check steam

fair mirage
#

i don't wanna

thin sphinx
#

it break those old sarecrow bug saves i ahd

#

so sad

mild ginkgo
#

yep

#

rekt

exotic ibex
#

;_;

thorn trout
#

yeah sorry :(

#

unfortunately in the process of adding stuff to ep2 saves for ep1 tend to break

mild ginkgo
#

you could probably manually edit a save by hand to dupe scarecrows

#

if that feels better

blazing kettle
#

what's with the update

mild ginkgo
#

patched a "memory leak" of sorts, and made low spec mode bettwe

#

also fixed a bug with the music i believe

prisma ivy
#

Yay

#

Toaster gaming

serene needle
#

wait what is that update?

exotic ibex
#

EPISODE 2 OMG GO PLAY IT

serene needle
#

its not

exotic ibex
#

there should be a changelog in the steam forums somewhere

fair mirage
#

hank

#

shush

exotic ibex
#

drek do you think anyone would actually believe that?

#

come on now

serene needle
#

Dusk Episode 1 Version 2.8 (11/9/2017)

NOTE THIS UPDATE WILL BREAK OLDER SAVES

  • welder in Through the Gate will no longer explode

  • memory leak associated with saving has been fixed

  • issue with unreliable loading of music tracks has been fixed

  • dust and decals properly disable with low spec mode on

warm shoal
#

its just saves right, not total progress?

exotic ibex
#

just saves

warm shoal
#

alright thats what i thought

old goblet
#

Update? Fuck yeah

#

Finally have not 4500 fps but 5000 fps thanks god Kappa

#

och only 320 fps

thin sphinx
#

also will there be a server wide alert of the waves for dusk world?

exotic ibex
#

more than likely

mild ginkgo
#

yes

thin sphinx
#

ok i thought so just wanted to know

forest harbor
fair mirage
#

scroll up a little and you will see

woeful sonnet
#

What about the keys?

#

Was that fixed

thin sphinx
#

ep3 right?

#

the ep3 keys in ep1

mild ginkgo
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that was patched a bit ago i think

woeful sonnet
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No it was still in there for me

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Played it a day or two ago and the episode 3 keys were still in episode 1.

burnt meadow
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hmmm

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is it possible to bind single actions to mwheelup/down in the cfg file?

mild ginkgo
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not atm no

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thank god

burnt meadow
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:(

prisma ivy
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Oops

burnt meadow
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thats throwing my bindings in the bin

mild ginkgo
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if i recall correctly theres a reason for not having it atm

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@thorn trout would know

frozen heart
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But how do I abh

mild ginkgo
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it can DEFINITELY be added

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its just a question of when/if

burnt meadow
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would really appreciate it in the future. Its a bummer that i can't control the bindings 100%

mild ginkgo
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if not, you can always use dawn

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for sure

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but mwheel bindings are laaaaame :P

burnt meadow
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me, and i think a lot of seasoned afps players bind every weapon to a single key

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for me mwheel down / up are usually just 2 diff weapons

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instead of scrolling through all of them

mild ginkgo
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well at least you're using it in a way thats not lame

burnt meadow
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i am guessing you mean the bind jump to mwheel? :D

exotic ibex
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lmao yeah

burnt meadow
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yeah, never understood that

exotic ibex
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bind that shit to M2

prisma ivy
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I bound jump to mouse wheel in hl:dm

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It's lame but hilarious

mild ginkgo
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i think its both lazy and dumb

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jump yourself

prisma ivy
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Off a cliff?

exotic ibex
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lol

burnt meadow
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yeah, its just...taking a risk every jump

prisma ivy
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m2 is move forward not jump :)

exotic ibex
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ban onion

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why did he make it through the trial period?

prisma ivy
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.ban @prisma ivy

hollow ivyBOT
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@prisma ivy You can't use this command on users with a role higher or equal to yours in the role hierarchy.

exotic ibex
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fug

prisma ivy
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There is no escape

mild ginkgo
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but yeah @burnt meadow we'll see what we can do about it

burnt meadow
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thanks :)

crimson folio
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noice

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quake ffa in a nutshell

mild ginkgo
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oh yeah niko we pushed the fixes to low spec mode

exotic ibex
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emphasis on the fire in the background

mild ginkgo
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so try it out when youve got time

crimson folio
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does anybody else get the feeling of everybody ganging up on you in an FFA mode in any fps?

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wooooo~

mild ginkgo
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yes, constantly

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im am always bitching about people not shooting eachother and instead shooting me

exotic ibex
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thats how ffa goes

mild ginkgo
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its the ffa life

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thats why i dont play it

crimson folio
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except for quake imo

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you move too fast for it to be reliable

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like OLD quake or cpma

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q3 you can get chased

mild ginkgo
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lets be real you can get chased in any afps as long as your opponent is good

crimson folio
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yeah i suppose

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i just never had the issue

mild ginkgo
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only salty people will ever really feel that way

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in reality its completely fair

exotic ibex
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salty losers

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:^)

mild ginkgo
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yes

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well thats not true

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i win and i still get salty as fuck

crimson folio
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SAME

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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**( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) **

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no matter what i play or what place i come in im always the saltiest person in the lobby

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same

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quake champions is the saltiest i've ever been

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worse than csgo

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and that game is bullshit

mild ginkgo
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well thats dumb, dont get mad at csgo lol

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taking that game seriously is a good joke

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for me it was a learned behavior after like 12 years of dota

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loss should be met with ANGERY

crimson folio
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is this loss??

mild ginkgo
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one more and im filtering that phrase

crimson folio
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sorry lol

mild ginkgo
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im kidding

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its a dumb meme though

crimson folio
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yeah

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one of my fondest memories is me and koopy fucking with /v/

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with loss

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most modern shooters are a joke to be fair

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only decent one i've played so far is overwatch and i love it

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oh

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oh no

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and i play it console

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how does that make you feel

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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@mild ginkgo psst hey i sure cant wait to sign up for duskworld beta

rose snow
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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

mild ginkgo
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why havent you signed up

rose snow
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theres a dusk ep1 update

crimson folio
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you can right now

rose snow
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did smth happen

crimson folio
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o

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rly