not halloween
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
serene sandal
SOON
vague egret
keep an eye on #356090071876763648 over the next few weeks
beta sign ups will be posted there first
vague egret
no. you're too good. go away
crimson folio
p o l i t e
summer otter
foggy wadi
wwait was the mortar buffed with exploding on impact
i just think a physics change or something is the way to go probably
shut mesa
Explodes when it hits an enemy iirc
woeful sonnet
I do think it does remove some of the uniqueness the mortar had, but I'd say the better buff would be if you could make them explode whilst on another weapon. But either way it does make it more viable, despite me rarely using it.
I do think the riveter and mortar need something to separate them more though, I don't quite know why but they both kinda blend together for me.
foggy wadi
i agree
woeful sonnet
Maybe its the fact they're both big and grey 😂
woeful sonnet
Yeah, I feel like they need a bit more both visually and mechanically to separate them, maybe give the mortar a bigger blast radius or something.
I feel like dave is just watching going, oh shutup 😂
sinful crag
Rip gibbing dudes with direct impact and not even having anything to explode afterwards
quaint cliff
Mortar shoots cluster bombs
foggy wadi
insane
gleaming berry
I think the riveter could be cooler
maybe more rusty
i'll mention it to @thorn trout
god damn it
DID U REALLY
CHANGE UR NAME TO SPOOKY CHEESE
fair mirage
lol
woeful sonnet
2 spoopy 4 u
fair mirage
he's the chz man
thorn trout
yup
woeful sonnet
i mean that is one cheesey pizza
prisma ivy
I am thoroughly spooked
fair mirage
well uh, he's already kinda half the boss from ROTT so 
thorn trout
damn good point
woeful sonnet
Eh
graceful wing
weeb
jade root
oh thats better
graceful wing
nice
thorn trout
rule 12 .warn @jade root
jade root
wOw
graceful wing
dude wtf
graceful wing
oh you need to start with it
.warn @jade root you better change that shit or i'm banning you
hollow ivyBOT
jade root
im gonna fucking dm the bot if you keep it up
woeful sonnet
So riveter and mortar and such
gleaming berry
I think the riveter could be like rustier
and have more rivets on it maybe
it does look a lot like the mortar
also her name is ROSIE
woeful sonnet
I honestly think its more the mortar that needs the work
quaint cliff
Yeah
woeful sonnet
The riveter is fine
foggy wadi
the riveter is a beautiful superstar
gleaming berry
no u r wron
woeful sonnet
Hey at least I can spell.
foggy wadi
every game benefits from a good cluster bomb but i dont know if the mortar should be the cluster bomber
quaint cliff
Mortar for a lot of small boys
woeful sonnet
Yeah it just needs something to give it that spice of life
hollow ivyBOT
foggy wadi
lmao
woeful sonnet
I guess the best way to put it is like this, every weapon has a place and I use pretty regularly. I rarely touch the mortar though
woeful sonnet
If the riveter weren't there id imagine id use it more.
quaint cliff
^
gleaming berry
.kick @thorn trout
woeful sonnet
Nah,
gleaming berry
HOW DOES DISCORD WORK
thorn trout
lol
jade root
.unmute @gleaming berry
hollow ivyBOT
woeful sonnet
Its the thing it fires that I find more problematic than the firing rate
gleaming berry
its slower in MP
jade root
get that role off of him
woeful sonnet
The mortar?
quaint cliff
If you lower the riviters rof that would be good.
foggy wadi
i think the riveters fine in single player
quaint cliff
Shoot 3 mortars for 2 rivits
woeful sonnet
Thats kinda what makes it unique
foggy wadi
i really do think the mortar is the only thing that should be changed tbh
woeful sonnet
Same
woeful sonnet
Its like the games bfg doi
quaint cliff
That's why it's too good
quaint cliff
Hmm
woeful sonnet
They hopefully will get spongier as the game goes on
foggy wadi
i think the mortar is probably fine in multiplayer
woeful sonnet
Again bigger blast radius?
foggy wadi
but you dont really get those multiplayer situations in single player
like firing the mortar behind you to cover your trail and then detonating them
the mortar feels like it was designed for multiplayer is i gues swhat im saying
foggy wadi
yeah but my point is mortar doesnt feel worth using in single player
woeful sonnet
I care more about the single player than the multiplayer
foggy wadi
im saying it should be changed in single player probably maybe
thorn trout
I'm back
woeful sonnet
Yes
foggy wadi
youre no longer cheese ghost
thorn trout
fix'd
foggy wadi
nice
woeful sonnet
Fixed what?
quaint cliff
Dual wield mortars
foggy wadi
his name
quaint cliff
Problem solved
woeful sonnet
Not really
Again firing rate is not the problem
Its what it fires that is
Again.... Bigger blast radius maybe?
quaint cliff
Super bouncy grenades
woeful sonnet
Or what was it you said about the um....
Maybe have it kinda like the flak canons secondary?
It just needs more life
woeful sonnet
Yes
quaint cliff
Do something like their launcher or cannon
Hold down the trigger to increase its speed
If you tap it gets lobbed, the longer you hold the trigger, the straighter it will shoot
thorn trout
I dunno I like it how it is. It mostly doesn't get use because it's so easy to get the riveter early in ep1
woeful sonnet
But thats the problem once you have it theres no point
I get way more milage out of quakes Grenade launcher even after I get the rocket launcher
foggy wadi
thats cuz quakes grenade launcher has a billion closed off walls and it bounces a lot
woeful sonnet
If its an arsenal only built for its utility well you've got a weapon thats not got much use.
woeful sonnet
I'm aware so it needs to do something to compensate
quaint cliff
Mortar already has one though
woeful sonnet
Not really
its just an extra utility for the primary
Its not a completely alternate fire
foggy wadi
i think if you had a bigger blast radius and a more consistent arc to the mortar itd be fine
woeful sonnet
Same
foggy wadi
it doesnt need to be a nuke that fires off several tinier nukes
thorn trout
We'll see. Stuff is still being tweaked while ep2 and ep3 are in development
Mortar has always been really oddly placed
foggy wadi
👍
crimson folio
I like how the mortar is
I find good utility for it even when I get the riveter
I also let the mortars carry my momentum and detonate them in mid-air for certain things. There are things you can do with it, you just have to find them out.
foggy wadi
yeah but its blast radius is pretty tiny for that
crimson folio
hmm...
foggy wadi
im pretty sure it has the same radius as the riveter
crimson folio
I'm fine with the mortar. It prob could use a bigger blast radius...
foggy wadi
the riveter you can point and click and the projectile goes to that exact location and b lows up instantly
because no arc
so the radius is fine
but witht he mortar its pretty awkward
crimson folio
but it still works quite well for me. I'm a grenade launcher kind of guy. When I use a grenade launcher in video games, I end up finding the trajectories of the grenades quickly
that's me though
woeful sonnet
Its just that I never use it, its got a very similar use to the riveter, but the riveter is just so much better.
woeful sonnet
So I meant to ask this quite awhile back but it just hit me again.... what the hecks up with all the slime puddles
fervent meteor
cultists peed themselves
cause they saw duskguy HUPPing towards them
this info is taken from official dusk lore, check the wiki if you don't trust me
gleaming berry
^^
woeful sonnet
But why tho....
prisma kestrel
mountain dew's a helluva drug
tender sable
I'll never get over how awesome it is that part of Dusk just straight up rips a room from Doom.
frozen heart
VAC
serene sandal
@tender sable Right? I was like "wait a second this seems familar."
woeful sonnet
@thin sphinx I'm not gonna lie I really don't like being easily able to see outside of the level
thorn trout
feeeeeeeeeeeeature
thin sphinx
lol
prisma ivy
Working as intended
thin sphinx
id find it great if the MP versions of the SP maps had a normal version with no OOB and then theres a version with the _OOB for doing cheakey fuck stuff with the riviter and crossbow
thorn trout
@woeful sonnet It's called emergent environmental vistas
I'll file a patent for it
description: "making a game so broken that the player can climb everything and see outside the level"
woeful sonnet
Eh
If it were just like a bug where it was only in places the player wasn't intended to go that'd be fine but I've found its not that hard to get to those places
thorn trout
EMERGENT ENVIRONMENTAL VISTAS
woeful sonnet
I call them ugly and unatractive.
exotic ibex
INOVATIVE GAMEPLAY
woeful sonnet
That one blood mod had it to
Deathwish thats it
@thorn trout just be a jerk and go on a copyright take down spree sueing any company whos made a game where you can break out and see just the raw skybox 😂
thorn trout
ooh good plan
brittle steeple
Hmmmm....
maybe make episode 2 a bit more claustrophobic?
If we're still talking about the GL
foggy wadi
i think they look really good
its really interesting and cool to see the whole fuckin level
radiant venture
and as a speedrunner, I think it's really cool because of ALL THE STRATS
foggy wadi
im a huge fan of secrets that arent labeled as secrets
like super secrets
intentional spots you can get out of the map and get a really cool view of everything
radiant venture
sorry for offtopic, but is your profile picture from Hotline Miami 2?
high spoke
just add another row of trees behind the trees already there
and add another row
and another
and another
summer otter
fair mirage
anotha one
high spoke
another one
in all seriousness with double layers of trees you could hid things in the "heavy forest" area
Would be interested to see that attempted even in a player made level tbh
woeful sonnet
This reminds me I need to eat a churro within my lifetime
foggy wadi
i used to go to sams clubs wehn i was asmall child and they always had churros and id get one every time they were like a foot long and one day they stopped serving them and i was devestated
they were really good
summer otter
somebody tell sam
red gale
Fuck. I was playing Orginal Doom and i relized the trap door/ Wizard arena in Old Time religion is the exact layout of a room in E1M2
even with the door switch and everything
you briliant bastards
mild ginkgo
👌
summer otter
oh yea that room is super memorable
the red key room that you fall down into right?
prisma halo
yeah
summer otter
its crazy how simple yet striking some of those E1 layouts r
potent kestrel
WELL THAT'S JOHN ROMERO FOR YA
opal plover
Guys earlier there was a disscusion about the mortar and here is my idea, have it so that when you tap it it's more similar to the pipe bombs in duke nukem and if you hold it down it gets bouncier and faster (maybe even sawblade levels of bounciness)
like the grenade launcher in quake worked because of all the tight corridors and the pipes worked because of how open duke3D was, dusk has both so might as well have both grenade types.
vague egret
right now mortar inherits player speed. if you want the mortar to fly faster, you gotta be moving fast as well
thorn trout
he exploded
thorn trout
That's not a joke btw
woeful sonnet
@thorn trout explain.....
quiet rose
Just a minor issue. Will be fixed.
woeful sonnet
Oh
crimson folio
isnt the welders corpse destroyable
potent kestrel
me when playing ddusk
woeful sonnet
yes
jolly mirage
ok
vivid cape
everyone can see it
jolly mirage
For some reason Images won't embed or upload properly
I can link but it won't embed
and if I try to upload raw it fails
prisma kestrel
uphate
jolly mirage
I was going to upload more of the corrupted images people like for some reason aswell
Uphate moving to #bnnuy-and-the-jits so mods don't shove a broom up my ass
bronze nacelle
what update?
jolly mirage
@bronze nacelle they make video calling public
fossil slate
Gee, I've dranked a lot of beer this evening! Playing games is a blast!
gleaming berry
😎😎😎
fossil slate
Dusk on beer!
foggy wadi
🍻
fossil slate
Dusk Beer!1 Hmmmmmm
woeful sonnet
Intoxigator! Intoxicated!
opal plover
Intoxigator intoxicated while drunk
quiet rose
👍
mild ginkgo
👌
quiet rose
👍
prisma ivy
👏
thorn trout
gleaming berry
@everyone PLEASE READ THE LAST TWO PINS
OH AND
?EG6W-VMRWG-QVK38
3NYMH-YJ2?K-F5FMI
L0LYK-9H976-W?Z6T
fair mirage
OH GOD KEYS
rustic python
❤
flat ibex
jesus christ what do with question marks please
stuck crypt
Arent those like, DUSK keys?
restive sail
Dammit you always post keys when I’m at work lol
gleaming berry
THEY ARE A LETTER OR NUMBER
quiet rose
Yup
gleaming berry
GLHF
stuck crypt
lol
olive surge
yo whats is in the pins all i saw was a twitch link
ornate thicket
Are these keys for just Ep 1 or for beta tests? Cause if its Beta tests yuuuuuuus
fair mirage
pff
quiet rose
EP 1
ornate thicket
Oh. Well good luck frineds, I already own it!
fallen marsh
modern rose
@gleaming berry Are the ? usually numbers? or can they be letters as well?
quiet rose
BOTH
fair mirage
you can do eet
modern rose
too many attempts.. locked out 😦
crimson folio
same
rotund fern
I'm psyched
crimson folio
darn too many attempts
dreamy tree
Second was already taken
shut mesa
modern rose
sigh If it wasn't for the "too many activation attempts" thing...
modern rose
Maybe they should hint towards us the missing character 😉
fair mirage
2 ez
modern rose
eh
modern rose
the ? could be replaced with.. like [three] for numbers or [bee] for letters... I dunno shrug
Guess sp
fair mirage
that's like, effort
chrome crown
Hahaha! The question mark thing is so cruel but so good
fair mirage
dave don't wanna do that
modern rose
Grinding
crimson folio
ill never will be able to play dusk 🙁
chrome crown
It's only twenty US dollars
modern rose
🤣
fair mirage
l o d s of e m o n e
modern rose
goes back to his game 😛
dreamy tree
Call me when shit costs triple its original price k
fair mirage
more like, nofundme
opal plover
Pretty sure this is gonna lead us to the nameless city.
tawny briar
fair mirage
maybe, you'll find out
SOON™
opal plover
Oops just realised TaillessBeef196 already posted the tweet
I can sense an horizon of events coming from this portal
modern trellis
I can wait. School is fucking me out of Dusk time anyway.
glacial flare
is the Multiplayer up yet?
gleaming berry
hipefully starting next week
and we're HOPING to get everyone who has the game in by the end of the month
with dedicated servers up
prisma ivy
👍
gleaming berry
but dont quote me on that
modern trellis
"Hipefully", I see what you did there. More like hypefully.
opal plover
serene sandal
This is gonna be a good month indeed!
quaint cliff
Sweet. Can't wait to frag my friends
rose needle
New version of bitwig coming out too. Thought I was going to be productive and then remembered dusk mp
opal plover
Also i'm 97% sure of this but the first dusk music andrew posted on his channel will play in the endless arena 2 right?
west bolt
we're going to be letting you into DUSK multiplayer very very very SOON™
VERY VERY VERY SOON™
that sounds like within 2 weeks or so, I like it😄
crimson folio
probably even closer
west bolt
within 2 weeks could be today
west bolt
imma just check 2 times a day if it came out like I always do
west bolt
sure™
fair mirage
don't do that
west bolt
ok
crimson folio
to get episode FOUR you gotta break all of the rules...
AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
west bolt
Nah, I think it will rather ban all users and give the devs depression so they never finish the game
but we can always try
jk™
crimson folio
opal plover
I wonder how they're gonna do the pacifist award on the final boss stage, You can't just bypass the great big evil lord right?
Maybe joining him as a bad ending
gleaming berry
yeah u can run by anything if u wan
sick lintel
mm i love dusk even more now
jade root
Thx Churrobot
summer otter
within two weeks could mean its already begun, beckon the call hoist the jib
potent kestrel
i know i suck ASS at photoshoping but i tried to add a hand onto the dusk pistol to see how it would look like
prisma halo
I feel like I've seen that hand before
main sorrel
I dig it. @thorn trout add hands plz
prisma halo
There were actually hands originally
the model is still in the files
they didn't look good though
thorn trout
That hand model was literally something I threw together in 30 seconds to test with
Definitely wasn't going to be final
prisma halo
Yeah, for sure
They don't actually look all that bad on the sickles
but it's clear they would've needed tweaking for the rest
west bolt
yea, fck hands, I just hold and trigger my guns in the air with telekinetic powers...
covert raptor
fug im hyped for dusk multiplayer
junior bobcat
same
west bolt
same!
desert fractal
don't wanna be too nosy but how many ppl have preordered?
west bolt
I guess about 1/4 of the ppl in discord
and of course a lot of ppl that don't know of the discord as well
some big ytbers like gameranx already did reviews on it so that also helped a lot
and the devs of dusk said that they were overwhelmed by the support and stuff today
jaunty meteor
http://steamspy.com/app/519860 5k people, with a 2k margin of error
Though most statistics below 30k are bound to be unreliable, so YMMV
graceful wing
we can't give out numbers but i can let you know that the preorders are coming in far larger numbers than what we expected
west bolt
👍
graceful wing
so yeh, thanks for the support so far y'all. DUSKWORLD SOOOOOOOON
quiet rose
DUKSWOLD??!??!?!?
graceful wing
dookswerld
frozen heart
DUKWURLD
jade root
cant wait for duskworld to be cancelld just like dusk
graceful wing
thats not canceling
jade root
:(
graceful wing
jade root
frozen heart
hollow ivyBOT
🔄 DUSK PREORDERS ARE UP! GO BUY IT AND PLAY EPISODE 1 RIGHT NOW!!
https://youtu.be/Flduv46BT78
http://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/DUSK/
summer otter
thorn trout
he exploded
warm shoal
who did it
prisma ivy
Nice
frozen heart
good job
warm shoal
lmao
graceful wing
Fix soon. Dw bout it for now 👍
crimson cipher
i think dusk needs a speedometer
hexed roost
Design-wise, I have no idea. We've only discussed it conceptually and functionally.
I want it to look like this, personally
mild ginkgo
As someone who religiously uses speedos in quake, I think it's not necessary for dusk
It has a speed cap
You're gonna be redlined most of the
opal plover
Does duskworld have damage indication? like the ones that tell you where the damage is coming from
mild ginkgo
No, it has the same damage indication as dusk, and positional audio
opal plover
k
opal plover
Oh baby a shillbot!
modern trellis
💦 🍆
tawny briar
you stay away from him
summer otter
sick lintel
ive been thinking about how avain said preorder numbers are way higher than expected
and i realised
its because of shillbot
graceful wing
Seems about right
graceful wing
The bot doesn't tag anyone and deletes past shills so ye
prisma ivy
It's the most advanced shillbot on the market
crimson folio
^
sick lintel
thats why its so effective
tacit nova
When you preordered dusk and get home on october 10th only to finally see Dave's announcement
desert fractal
We've been smackledorfed
summer otter
the bot doesn't dictate my habits, I won't let @them control us
prisma ivy
O B E Y
tender sable
Wait, Dave's gonna give an announcement on the 10th? Sweet.
quaint cliff
You know, Dave said the release date was a placeholder, what if the game comes out November 1st?
Just one day after the previous one
graceful wing
2017 (maybe)
quaint cliff
SOON
graceful wing
we're committed to bringing you guys as polished a final product as possible. delays are a small price to pay for it
jade root
awhile™
graceful wing
jade root
woah
quiet rose
🔜
graceful wing
delet complt
jade root
delete #bnnuy-and-the-jits
crimson folio
Im so late but so glad for this game. Im excited to, once we get a desktop sgsin, to download this.
untold elm
Keaton going heretic on us.
crimson folio
I mean, it's already cancelled
fair mirage
yep
untold elm
Delay = Cancelled?
🤔
prisma ivy
There is no delay. It's canceled.
obtuse apex
its about time
prisma ivy
Your alive?
obtuse apex
legends never die
thorn trout
duks is ded
obtuse apex
it had a good run
foggy wadi
🦆
also the last thing dusk said was the game would come out in 2017 but not october
but you never know 🤷
itll be out when its good and ready 🤗
prisma kestrel
🦆 💥 🔫
tacit nova
serene sandal
Take as much time as needed! :)
woeful sonnet
100000 years later 😂
(Dave steps on to the e3 floor) coughs into the microphone "dusk is cancelled."
gleaming grotto
e3 2045
New Blood interactive is attending
show begins, on screen, a folder titled "Dusk Episode 2 assets" is dragged into the recycle bin
recycle bin emptied
show ends
woeful sonnet
Crowd starts throwing tomato's and quinoa
summer otter
follow your dreams
indigo venture
Dusk 2 eta?
graceful wing
Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe
scenic pivot
Dusk is coming out after Half Life 3
glacial charm
I'm very late on asking this but on the episode through the gate, i realized that the dead body is replaced with flames
was that on purpose?
glacial charm
ah, ok
junior bobcat
ill go on my alt and ruin it
crimson folio
WE DID IT NEW BLOOD
frozen heart
Now don't touch it
crimson folio
scrolls up and reads the Dusk is the new DN forever rants
frozen heart
No its just a meme
Development is going smoothly
Or as smoothly as game development can go
shadow epoch
oh
crimson folio
yeah they're just doing light delays and making rough estimate release dates becuase they're polishing the living SHIT out of the game for us
to put it simply:
'dusk will come out between now and the heat death of the universe'
gleaming grotto
Look for it next week in gaming magazines
bronze nacelle
"DUSK spook mode" what is this?
graceful wing
limited edition halloween version of dusk for New Blood Gold ™ subscribers
bronze nacelle
how can i get that?
graceful wing
spin around and yell "BLESS ME DAVE" 10 times as loud as you can
(the game's just a joke for halloween)
quaint cliff
Is it spookier?
graceful wing
oh hell ye
bronze nacelle
i want the halloween feels
serene sandal
There should have been a large crowd together to yell BLESS ME DAVE at Quakecon. Such a missed opportunity.
bronze nacelle
so what is "New Blood Gold ™"?
quiet rose
A joke
graceful wing
it's a super exclusive program for only the most elite of gamers
prisma ivy
Golden Gamers™
quartz pebble
men who have a new blood gold™ account 😍 😍 😍 😍
prisma halo
what if it's dusk
jade root
You have to dm the bot to be furnished with full informations
crimson folio
if you zip up the contents of both h-doom and dusk's directories and change the extension to .iso you get to play the AE proto on a Sega Saturn emulator
shout out to churbot for giving me that heads up
exotic ibex
👌🏻 bless chur
prisma halo
hey, don't leak!!!
prisma ivy
tawny briar
what was the announcement that the pic of the simsons was talking about
prisma ivy
Dave will have news SOON™
jolly mirage
hey look it does not look like grass anymore
tawny briar
so the keys whats up with them
frozen heart
David accidentally put in the episode 3 keys
tawny briar
lol
jolly mirage
If you don't know what to do with the Dusk Episode one branch then you should Keep it as a free demo after all that is what Doom and Quake did
(Obviously remove arena and such from it)
tawny briar
do u think he really "accidentally" put them in
thin sphinx
well remove some of the levels too have it say on e1m5 such thanks for playing you can buy our full game here
graceful wing
complete accident
and we're probably not going to give out the entire first ep for free
tawny briar
or just endless and e1m1 ,e1m2,e1m3
jolly mirage
endless is a little borderline
You want to still have the player enjoy it but still be limited
maybe for endless you can only play to wave 10 or something along those lines
tawny briar
i can see that
serene sandal
I think a demo of some kind would be beneficial.
jolly mirage
its better than a seperate .exe for multiplayer
I know this has problably been already asked but will there be Botmatch in Duskworld? I like experementing with them
graceful wing
unknown
and ye there'll be a demo for sure. we just haven't nailed down the details on it yet
crimson folio
word is that they talked about it
graceful wing
our main focus is to get the game itself out first
jolly mirage
if you ask me here is how the demo should work
Avalable Levels: e1m1 e1m2 e1m3 e1m4 and e1m5
And for endless it should be playable up to wave 10 (Optinal)
and only arena 1 for endless (Optinal)
^
Some suggestians
Or just outright remove endless\
idk
spoopy
Oh I have better idea
make the full game free but everytime you shoot or jump or press W an Ad plays just like all other mobile games
serene sandal
@jolly mirage Slow down Satan lol
jolly mirage
@serene sandal ^
also is it true that DuskWorld will have Port Bypasser if so thank god
exotic ibex
thats the plan
jolly mirage
good
serene sandal
All hail Stillbot!
summer otter
mild chasm
I'm a late late fella once again to the discussion of this, but I think that the stats of the Riveter and Mortar would make a bit more sense if they were given to each other
The mortar seems like something that would be more befitting of having lower ammo but higher damage per shot, while the riveter, firing fast as it does as well as being available sooner, would make more sense for having decent ammo but lesser damage for the explosives.
At least in terms of how they feel
mild chasm
Swapped around
fair mirage
oh, alright
mild chasm
Mortar has a max of 35 ammo as I recall, but you tend to use all of that up in actual battle because nearly every non-boss enemy in the game takes two or so grenades to kill each and with the low rate of fire mixed with the tactics you're nudged more towards using given the remote detonation function and the fast acting arc, for example using it ahead of time to create a sort of fast setup explosive trap, you're more liable to miss any attempts at a direct hit
The Riveter has a max ammo of 25 but it does so much damage at such a high rate of fire and the ammo is so plentiful for it that it's nowhere near a problem, and you can use it much more consistently and easily to decimate everything you see than you can with the Mortar
No arc at all, fast projectile travel, no real difficulties in getting those direct hits or getting multiple enemies in the blast radius
fossil oriole
admittedly it did make me question what the heck i was going to use a rivet for when i started picking them up on like the second level
mild chasm
The damage being enough to kill a good chunk of the enemy cast in one hit on Cero Miedo also makes the mortar obsolete
Why waste time setting up a trap or trying to arc a grenade right twice in a heated battle with jumps and such when you can just whip out the riveter and shoot 'em once and grab another
thorn trout
The Riveter is a secret weapon in ep1
mild chasm
If the Riveter were to take two shots to kill enemies but it had 35 rounds, and the Mortar could one shot stuff but required more timing and strategy or aiming skill and only had 25 rounds it would just make more sense
Also that may be the case but in a classic shooter people are going to be humping those walls and trying to find ways into any crevice or ledge that even remotely looks like it could hold a secret
Technically speaking you find the riveter sooner than you find the mortar
But it's just my opinion on it anyways, and it's purely based on how the weapons feel mechanically
The mortar can still be fun to use but there's not much reason to use it over the riveter
other than for funsies
It actually seems quite similar to Quake 3 actually, the grenade launcher is capable but outclassed by the rocket launcher given they'd be used for similar purposes.
thorn trout
hopefully it will make more sense in the later episodes where ammo isn't quite as common
and there are some tougher enemies
mild chasm
Fair enough
But when you've only got the one episode to work with as a player it's just kind of confusing how they feel versus how effective they are
And although it would probably make more sense in the later episodes, that might end up putting a lot of players who come in later on into a situation where they waste all their riveter ammo thinking there will be tons and not even giving the mortar the light of day because in the previous episode it wasn't exactly worth it's salt in comparison
Old habits shall die hard I suppose though
Literally
thorn trout
we'll see. Everything is still being tweaked.
sinful crag
Rip mortar impact funsies
gleaming berry
I think less amo overall for riveter etc
will make it more special
so you gotta save it
or the super secret Riveter 9000
which fires 40 rivets at once
and creates a black hole
to hell
thorn trout
^^^
mild ginkgo
Also I'd just like to say, as many times as people type 'the mortar and riveter have different damage values' it doesn't make that true. The only case that's true is on direct hits, the explosions do exactly the same amount of damage
The riveter can only hit one enemy at a time with the projectile, and is far better suited for single targets
The mortar has far more plentiful ammo, and can be peppered everywhere, better to aoe with, and kill things out of Line of sight
foggy wadi
the riveter is way better at hitting multiple enemies because you click at a spot and an explosion is there nearly instantly
mortar is worse for aoe
well thats not fair
mortar is worse at everything*
there we go
also level design and small explosion doesnt really allow for killing things out of line of sight
at least not in episode 1
woeful sonnet
I have to agree with @foggy wadi
exotic ibex
hi. i prefer the mortar. i use the riveter for movement. thanks.
foggy wadi
most people have issues witht he mortar though
quaint cliff
Yo
quiet rose
I'm pretty much the same as Hank. Riveter for movement, Mortar for AOE. It gets the job done imo
crystal vessel
analog sable
i rarely use the riveter
austere egret
I love the mortar, I find it's great for clustered enemies and trickshots
analog sable
pretty much
analog sable
i find the mortar more fun to use, although both weps are pretty satisfying
foggy wadi
i think the mortar needs something
quiet rose
I guess i feel like the mortar is better at aoe because you can pop more than one mortar at a time and at the right speed, you pretty much decimate EVERYTHING
foggy wadi
but the riveter is faster
quiet rose
Limited ammo on the riveter. it is also a secret wep on ep 1
quiet rose
Mortar will become far more useful down the line. Trust
woeful sonnet
It feels like in episode one I was just being fed riveter ammo left and right
I don't think I've had a play through where I've ever sucked it dry
woeful sonnet
Thats the thing I do to though
quiet rose
In the end, everyone plays DUSK differently
zealous arrow
Yo I'm giving a copy of dusk away. https://twitter.com/RyanWGleason/status/917448912759169025
Twitter
atomic egret
that's a weird condition for entry
zealous arrow
Gotta support our boy Barry.
quiet rose
@zealous arrow Please ask a mod before doing giveaways.
tawny briar
yo where dope fish
gleaming berry
lvl4
gleaming berry
proud of u
crimson folio
thats a smol gun there
tawny briar
No it's average
crimson folio
huh looks like my weapon size is a bit higher idk
tawny briar
Na mine is like 0.7
crimson folio
if it doesnt cover 1/3 of the screen im out
sullen carbon
What is that fov
gleaming berry
666
summer otter
believe
tawny briar
When your screen settings for being roasted
pallid gyro
@graceful wing Dusk Spook Mode 🤔
graceful wing
💀
vague egret
2spooky for lurkers
prisma ivy
Boo
foggy wadi
☠
sick lintel
doosk spuck mode
crimson folio
I'm not sure what this could mean
thin sphinx
the correct translation is "the cat eats ducks"
either way if any dave has a cat keep it away from the development files
gleaming berry
serene sandal
HOLY CRAP THAT IS SICK! I knew it!
crimson folio
hot damn
sick lintel
fricken epic
thin sphinx
NICE ill get the collectors edition now for sure
crimson folio
Same!
red gale
@fair mirage you and me both
prisma ivy
GOOD GAME
modern trellis
Needs moarrr grafx.
gleaming berry
red gale
wait till the "stealth-only or instant death" mod maps
hearty bronze
hey I was just curious. The Dusk release date used to say October 31st and now it says SOON. Is it being delayed or is it coming sooner ?
fair mirage
the 31st was merely a placeholder date
hearty bronze
oh
hearty bronze
ah damn well okay then thanks for the info. I pre-ordered it awhile back so I was just curious'
fair mirage
yep, they want it to be as polished and bug-free as they can
hearty bronze
thats good, thanks
fair mirage
no prob 
foggy wadi
i was really really hoping dusk later episodes would get into some crazy shit like how you literally ended up in hell later in doom
im glad it seems to not disappoint 😉
😄
desert fractal
I don't think that goes along the conventions of an oldschool fps
next thing you know there will be a loot crate
summer otter
wut?
just like a press "t" to giggle type thing
taunting in Natural Selection always felt more satisfying than dweeby teabagging
heretofore known as dweebagging
gleaming berry
IN mp MAYBE
REMOTE RIDICULE
like ROTT
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
WHERE ARE YOUUUUUUU
summer otter
here4u
desert fractal
oh
i thought you were talking about something like making the model make a dance animation
gleaming berry
this aint destiny
crimson folio
tf2 voice taunts in dusk
quaint cliff
all i need is the middle finger from Drutal Doom
crimson folio
OO THIER GONNA HAV TA GLUU YOU BACK TOGETHER- IN HELL!
quaint cliff
and the kicks
sullen carbon
Just that shitty little taunt from zandronum
quaint cliff
Brutal Doom kicks are the best
atomic egret
false
quaint cliff
kick only run lol
atomic egret
mighty boot is far better
sullen carbon
Real talk though
I know this probably won't make it in the game
But I absolutely love sprays
Or rather, custom sprays
crimson folio
yes
sullen carbon
Because I love making people look at terrible porn after I murder them
red gale
i demand custom sprays
i'm terrible at shooting but if i can post some furry gifs on the walls i can walk away with some sense of domination over my foes
opal plover
What about having custom spay but they are all the same resolution as the walls so the pron censors itself
west bolt
PING THAT SH!T
prisma halo
@prisma halo
atomic egret
comedy bronze
bronze nacelle
will there be split screen support?
west bolt
no, but that may be a good ideal for post-release
jade root
prolly no splitscreen support
vague egret
i wouldnt bet on it. lot of extra work for a feature only like 6 people will ever use
crimson folio
splitscreen? it'd be good if you guys do go through with porting it to consoles
theres so many games on xbox one rn that are sadly missing splitscreen support
vague egret
theres a reason for that. couch gaming with friends is largely a thing of the past. online replaced it
crimson folio
🤔
crimson folio
i went over to a friends house a week ago and i wanted to 1v1 on overwatch and theres no fucking splitscreen for custom games
how is that acceptable
graceful wing
time to develop vs people actually wanting the feature
crimson folio
how is playing overwatch acceptable
very true
i dont fuck with overwatch
you fucking 14 year old
£40 wasted
vague egret
two things wrong with that
overwatch
on console
sullen carbon
Wow guys
graceful wing
overwatch isn't that bad
crimson folio
yeah well the thing is all but one of my school friends are scared of pc gaming and just stick to xbox
sullen carbon
#bnnuy-and-the-jits jeez
graceful wing
crimson folio
its really sad
at your age i was playing plutonia on nightmare
i doubt it
plutonia is TERRIBLE
it'd be super cool to see dusk on consoles one day eventually maybe anyway
graceful wing
we're thinking about it
fair jolt
doesn't seem like the kind of game suited to a joypad to me but whatever floats your boat
graceful wing
dusk works pretty well on a pad actually
stray gale
well
crimson folio
does it have that cool stick sensitivity system
@west bolt yup thats always been there
west bolt
😐
rotund fern
Is playing this game with a constant erection normal?
graceful wing
yep
vague egret
Pls consult your doctor if you experience an erection lasting in excess of 4 hours
crimson folio
your wiener'll fall off
pulsar bough
Jerk off to the demonic goats
opal plover
When you reach the tenth mission of any episodes it should say "GET PSYCHED!" instead of "prepare thyself"
prisma ivy
But then how will you know to prepare thyself?
crimson folio
gleaming berry
^^
exotic ibex
you dont get psyched just waking up?
crimson folio
^
crimson folio
Will the collector's edition of DUSK contain samples of the developer's blood/sweat/tears for the full authentic experience?
I will settle for producer blood if necessary.
prisma ivy
Soon™
warped saffron
Just play it on DUSKMARE / Intruder Mode ON / NO Quicksaving / and go for Completionist on every level. That's how I'm stretching it out. :p
Been stuck on Old Time Religion for a sec. xD
quaint cliff
Those rats keep messing me up
quaint cliff
Who's idea was it to put them in the game?
warped saffron
YEAH. I get that first wave of them with a gas can though. There are enough up top to bring down and get both secrets plus the RATS.
lol
mossy gust
I have to admit the second experiment scared the shit out of me
Was not expecting it
My favorite part of the game is 800mph Quakeworld strafejumping with a sword
quaint cliff
800mph soap throwing
mossy gust
I won a shirt at PAX east for beating the fuck out of everyone at ROTT. does that earn me anything in Dusk.
warped saffron
@mossy gust 3 free duskboxes
mossy gust
Soap crates
warped saffron
whoops. we probably should have said "Soap Box" since that's an actual thing :p
totally missed it
dang it
crimson folio
It's too late now. Damned to the Hell of Missed Jokes.
crimson folio
Oh shit just saw Dave's tweet. What should we expect from the digital CE? And will there be an opportunity to upgrade to it if we have already preordered the regular version?
gleaming berry
I think just the OST and digital comic
so u can like upgrade for $10
comic is gonna be like 40 pages
crimson folio
nice
crimson folio
$10 for OST and a comic is an easy buy, yeh.
dusk physical edition with edible soap bar and midi soundtrack on a diskette when
I'm holding out for blood. If you want my $60, I better get some DNA in the box.
foggy wadi
f
for a second i thought you meant you were holding out for a physical remake of blood
and now im sad 😦
crimson folio
No. I want to own a piece of these men because I am deranged and I think if I cajole them enough they might actually indulge me 😛
foggy wadi
new blood should get the rights to remake blood 😉
crimson folio
night dive studios*
foggy wadi
listen the name new blood is already conveniant
foggy wadi
lmao