#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

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foggy wadi
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extra memes

atomic egret
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boom roasted

fair mirage
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pls tell me you went and implemented that real quick and made a vid of it

atomic egret
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doubt it

mild ginkgo
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no i just used Q

atomic egret
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probably just pressed 1

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or q

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yep

mild ginkgo
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i COULD go do that

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but it would look identical

fair mirage
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awwwwwwwww

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BORING

opal plover
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I don't get why you are saying quick melee that would switch you back would look buggy, I oppened dusk and I pressed q and went back to my shotgun almost imediately and it didn't look bad or buggy

mild ginkgo
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did you just watch the video i uploaded?

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because it looks bad and buggy in that

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using precisely that method

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if i need to do another one to make it even more clear i will

opal plover
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Oh no not at all I get it

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You could do something that doesn't look bad but yeah that would be too much work for something as unused as quick melee

mild ginkgo
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the thing is, you would have to either A) remove the players control over weapon switches, and LOCK them into doing a "quick melee" SLOWER than actual melee

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or b) slow down the attack cycle of the sickles

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neither of which are fun

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also just to make a more clear video

opal plover
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Thank you

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And yeah that makes a lot of sense

mild ginkgo
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im joking with the video title btw

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youre right, the design of it is inconsistent with what its referencing

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and you arent the first one to point this out

prisma kestrel
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random side-thought: duke-ish quick-melee would be a handy shortcut for breaking objects when you don't want to waste ammo (e.g. early intruder mode)

crystal vessel
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You can just press 1 though

foggy wadi
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^^^

mild ginkgo
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or quick melee then q

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but yeah idk, its not a big deal

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we're making a big deal out of something so small :)

foggy wadi
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its cuz people are hype for dusk and waiting is getting hard

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lol

fair mirage
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YOU'RE A BIG DEAL

prisma kestrel
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side-thought #2: duke's choice of melee made it real problem-free to implement given how easy it is to draw a kick sprite under the weapon :P

fair mirage
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500

foggy wadi
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gotta make some conversations happen

prisma kestrel
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joke solution: keep weapon sprite on screen and have sickles swinging too because duskguy doesn't need hands anyway

mild ginkgo
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xaser thats amazing

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dusk dude doesnt have hands anyways

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why not just make both weapons there at once

prisma kestrel
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:D

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sanity is optional

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[related: i can't wait to mod in quad-wielding pistols by mirroring them vertically]

fair mirage
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PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW

opal plover
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And have a a fith one on the center

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And a sixth on the top

prisma kestrel
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every weapon pickup in the map just gives you another pistol

fair mirage
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pistols, the machinegun

prisma kestrel
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someone get bread knight on this

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"too many pistols"

opal plover
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Every weapon you pickup adds to a progressively built specific weapon machinegun

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like if you pick up three shotguns in a level you get a machinegun made of three shotguns

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Or a riveter MG

mild ginkgo
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riveter mg is fun

fair mirage
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hold the trigger for more than a second

fair mirage
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whoops there goes the ammo

prisma kestrel
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that is perfection

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how many runes is that? :P

mild ginkgo
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i think it was 10

opal plover
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Wait the totems stack?!

mild ginkgo
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yes

opal plover
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: D

mild ginkgo
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its good fun with the crossbow

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because you can just fly around

prisma kestrel
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oh dear, this is gonna be the equivalent of those quake rocket jump maps

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related: get the secret rune on the cliff in E1M5 then jump into the pit and get that one there; easy way to get a doublestack and wreck some face

mild ginkgo
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yeah that video doesnt show the subtlety of rivets actually

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if you time rivets correctly the explosions from the previous rivet deflects the next one

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same with crossbow bolts and enemy projectiles

prisma kestrel
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o-----O

opal plover
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Have a super secret row of ten totems in the final boss arena

opal plover
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Wow

mild ginkgo
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works on all projectile based things

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including your own projectiles

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which is, not very easy to replicate

opal plover
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Rivet reflect meta in duskworld

mild ginkgo
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crossbow reflect as well

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heres a fun one for you

atomic egret
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if you stood in front of that would it kill you

mild ginkgo
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nah you cant be hit by your own shots

opal plover
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Do they accelerate while travelling?

mild ginkgo
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nope

opal plover
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Ok, looks dope as hell though

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Also wondering, are there gonna be reskinned enemmies for different episodes or are they only gonna get upgrades like (I think) the welder is an upgraded mage and the wendigo is and upgraded leatherneck.

mild ginkgo
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there will be new enemies, there will be old enemies, there will be reskins, none of the ones you guessed are accurate though :P

opal plover
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Oh that sounds promising Leatherneck

mild ginkgo
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wendigo is a fun one :)

opal plover
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My body is ready

timid wedge
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Anyone kinda feels the sound of grenade launcher isn't powerful enough?

foggy wadi
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i also think its just not good

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theres like a half second or full second delay on shooting a grenade where right clicking doesnt work

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its really janky and not fun to use

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also it just feels like a worse riveter even when it works

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could be useful when it works in multiplayer

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but it still feels really off to use

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and is bad in single

jaunty meteor
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Being able to make it right click immediately would just make it a second riveter

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I'd say "maybe having it explode on direct hit would be good", but I feel like the grenade launcher was designed the way it is so despite it being powerful, it's not the perfect weapon in every situation imaginable (such as close quarters)

foggy wadi
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its never good

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ever

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it does nothing that the riveter doesnt

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and everything it does that the riveter does the riveter does better

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except multiplayer

jaunty meteor
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Yeah well you're not going to have the riveter 24/7 :p

foggy wadi
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i mean you are though

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either way mortar needs heavy work

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definitely the weakest link of all the weapons

jaunty meteor
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It's a secret weapon for at least 1/3rd of the game and there's no guarantee you even get it early on in EP2

mild ginkgo
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you need to remember the riveter is a secret weapon

foggy wadi
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the mortar has a smaller blast radius too doesnt it

mild ginkgo
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no

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same radius

foggy wadi
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i wouldnt use the mortar even if i didnt have the riveter

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super shotgun would be a better alternative tbh

mild ginkgo
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mm, i know at least a few situations where i personally use the mortar , but its definitely a limited use weapon, as it should be

foggy wadi
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none of the other weapons are limited use though

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thats literally the issue

jaunty meteor
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Definitely not true

mild ginkgo
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the riveter, crossbow, mortar, and hunting rifle

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all are

foggy wadi
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the mortar is niche but not especially powerful in its noche

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niche*

jaunty meteor
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The lever action/super shotgun are DEFINITELY not catch-alls

foggy wadi
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lol what

mild ginkgo
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the super shotgun is definitely the workhorse for me

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its also different per mode

jaunty meteor
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For instance, I wouldn't use the super shotgun for long range, or against large groups of rats

mild ginkgo
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like in endless, the mortar is useful, you cant spam ssg because of ammo concerns, etc

jaunty meteor
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I just don't think a weapon is "bad" because it doesn't work for every purpose ever

warm shoal
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if you use the super shotgun against a large group of rats it dies instantly

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all of them

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at least in my experience

foggy wadi
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mortar doesnt work for any purpose ever

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thats why its bad

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lol

mild ginkgo
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what?

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ok go to duskmare

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fire up e1m8

jaunty meteor
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Now you're just being hyperbolic

foggy wadi
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duskmare is meme

fair mirage
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out of rivets?
need to blow shit up?
mortar

warm shoal
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the mortar is really just a worse riveter from what i can tell

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i still use it though

mild ginkgo
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now go to the hallway where theres the gate open switch

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done

foggy wadi
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crossbows

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anything else

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what gate

mild ginkgo
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there is

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one gate

foggy wadi
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theres a gazillion gates on "open the gates"

jaunty meteor
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wtf man

mild ginkgo
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the eponymous gate

foggy wadi
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the one where all the enemies kill eachother?

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lol

jaunty meteor
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You can complete the entire game with the pistol if you want to, it doesn't invalidate the mortar's damage or splash

mild ginkgo
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the one gate

foggy wadi
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the mortar does bad damage and has baby splash for babies tho

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it fills a niche that its not even especially good in

mild ginkgo
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it does the same damage and splash as the riveter

jaunty meteor
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The developer literally just pointed out how it has identical splash to the riveter after you tried to use that as a downside

foggy wadi
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and its janky

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hes not the developer hes a mod/playtester

exotic ibex
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he has source access

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he's a dev.

foggy wadi
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its like if the assault rifle didnt exist and the pistols were the only option

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cool

mild ginkgo
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but anyways

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not the point

foggy wadi
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yes

exotic ibex
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mortar is useful. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

mild ginkgo
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the mortar does the same damage as the riveter

foggy wadi
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๐Ÿ˜

mild ginkgo
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on explosion

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the riveter has a direct hit damage

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which gives it more damage for ONE target

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however, he needs to be in direct line of sight

atomic egret
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I like never use the motar unless I'm out of riveter ammo and need some explosives

mild ginkgo
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its like comparing the grenade launcher and rocket launcher in quake

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mortar used to have impact detonation in alpha

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and, you never know, may make it back into the game

jaunty meteor
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The takeaway I got from this is that you really need to try using the grenade launcher more

foggy wadi
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nes rock throw lol

jaunty meteor
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And adopt the mentality that just because there's something better, doesn't mean this is bad

foggy wadi
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lol

warm shoal
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i think what ash is saying is that he wants the mortar to be a sidegrade instead of a downgrade

mild ginkgo
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also again, endless mode, youll learn the mortar is good

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its literally almost exactly a sidegrade

exotic ibex
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the mortar is what you use when you dont need the overkill dps you can pump out with the riveter from the direct hit damage and firerate.

mild ginkgo
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with shared damage and functionality

atomic egret
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funny thing is in quake I use the grenade launcher more than the rocket launcher

mild ginkgo
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trading fire rate for increased ammo, and not having to be in LOS

exotic ibex
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^^^^^

foggy wadi
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the riveters fast projectile speed with same aoe makes it objectively better at both splash and direct hits

exotic ibex
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its like 1887s and the ssg

foggy wadi
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the mortar has an NES rock throw arc

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and the same small aoe

mild ginkgo
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right

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but higher ammo

jaunty meteor
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Why do you keep comparing the grenade launcher to a secret weapon

mild ginkgo
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and not having to be in LOS

foggy wadi
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its not a secret weapon

jaunty meteor
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You're basically making the argument "The BFG is better than the rocket launcher so why would I ever use the rocket launcher"

exotic ibex
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in E1 it is

mild ginkgo
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also mortar inherits momentum btw

foggy wadi
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cool for e1

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im happy for him

exotic ibex
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๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿป

foggy wadi
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also the bfg isnt better than the rocket launcher

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lol

mild ginkgo
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it has tradeoffs

exotic ibex
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i dont think you understand the concept of a sidegrade

mild ginkgo
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just like the dichotomy we are illustrating between the riveter and mortar

foggy wadi
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i dont think you understand the concept of a bad weapon but this conversation is getting silly because clearly nobody here is open to changing either of our opinions

mild ginkgo
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well you are ignoring the data were giving

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and just saying "is bad lol"

jaunty meteor
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"I don't think you understand so this conversation is over"

foggy wadi
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lol sure

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calm down buddies

mild ginkgo
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i aint mad man, im just tryna helpa a brother understand why the things are the way they are

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yknow?

exotic ibex
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im the one being aggressive, admittedly.

foggy wadi
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๐Ÿ‘ป

warm shoal
foggy wadi
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๐Ÿ‘บ โ˜

opal plover
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I feel that the strength of the grenade launcher in quake was that you could shoot and spam around corners and it would fly everywere and annihilate everything, the mortar is not as bouncy and looses a bit of the fun factor imho

mild ginkgo
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i suggest using the inherited momentum for that

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can bounce a lot more than quake grenades using that method

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but the thing abotu it is that quake is almost entirely narrow corridors and corners to spam around

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dusk has too many open spaces for that tactic to be used a lot

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at least

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dusk ep 1

opal plover
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Actually now that I looked back and compared the two I realised that they are pretty much identical bounce wise. I'm pretty sure that I felt that way because of the design of the granades as they don't really rotate to say.

mild ginkgo
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yeah quakes visual was much more apparent due to the elongated grenades

opal plover
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Yeah, and the sound effects too, but don't feel like I'm super bothered or anything

elder raft
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Guys....you're forgetting the most powerful weapon of all.....the bar is SOAP

limber pier
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Will soap be in duskworld?

exotic ibex
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of course

limber pier
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There should be a soap only game mode

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No weapons

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Just soap

west bolt
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well, there is LOW TECH: USE ONLY SICKLES/SWORD AND ITEMS TO BEAT THE LEVEL

crimson folio
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He means for DUSKWorld

west bolt
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oh

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that would be cool

jaunty meteor
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When custom gamemode scripting comes out, I'm sure that'll be a thing

autumn compass
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dusk: we have our own BFG. but its called a 'soap'

elder raft
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Lul

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S.O.A.P = Super Offensive Assault Pickup

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Or something

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So...what's Duskworld?

jaunty meteor
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Dusk's multiplayer component

exotic ibex
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PvP

elder raft
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Oooooh

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bunny hops will be rampant

jade root
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duskworld is crazy fast

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good luck hitting shit

elder raft
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lol soap makes remixes boom

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Enemies****

unique saffron
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good luck hitting shit

mild ginkgo
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duskworld is good

unique saffron
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Sounds like something Hank would say

mild ginkgo
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we had top tier quake and reflex players playing

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they seemed to like it

exotic ibex
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game is good

mild ginkgo
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

unique saffron
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top tier. Hank doesn't count

exotic ibex
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dusk is good. play dusk

unique saffron
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rekt

jaunty meteor
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I saw footage, it looks faster than Quake at its fastest

mild ginkgo
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we had ckap playing

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someone whos actually good

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duels against hank in reflex are a 9-1 matchup and i dont play that game except to duel hank

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ok i should say WERE

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i have not played in a long time

exotic ibex
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yeah we've had a gap

mild ginkgo
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im SURE youre way better now with a better connection and a real monitor

unique saffron
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lol

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oh, you were serious

exotic ibex
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i kind of miss my CRT

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;_;

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such a comfy monitor

mild ginkgo
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he'll lose until he learns to time items

exotic ibex
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i'll time my boot up your ass.

mild ginkgo
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

unique saffron
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Can't even time that

exotic ibex
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look man at least i can move

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alright

unique saffron
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Just fucking look at the clock and add some numbers

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boom

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get to the item at that time

exotic ibex
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look here you little shit

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there was a trick i read a while ago and wrote it down

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i forgot where i put it

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fuck

mild ginkgo
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or play for 15 years and have it committed to feel

unique saffron
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Is it that 2 > 5, 1>4, 3>0 thing?

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fuck off

exotic ibex
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hey look here bruv

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it works

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stop harassing me

unique saffron
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Learn maths

mild ginkgo
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lmao

exotic ibex
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math sucks

mild ginkgo
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i RARELY have to look at the clock for items, its just natural at this point

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only clock if the opponent gets the item

exotic ibex
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i'll learn eventually.

unique saffron
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start learning

exotic ibex
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im going to fuck with item timings in duskworld just to piss you off.

mild ginkgo
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i forgot that youre relatively new to afps

unique saffron
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otherwise a 6yo will beat you in Dusk MP

exotic ibex
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the first time i played with you 500 was the first time i got a chance to play an AFPS seriously.

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so relatively is giving too much credit.

mild ginkgo
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fair!

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its hard to be better than people who have significantly more time invested

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you basically have to outskill them

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which is hard as fuck

exotic ibex
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you know the baby BJ icon in the old wolfens?

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yeah thats me

mild ginkgo
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thats even in the new ones too lmao

unique saffron
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You just gotta stop hopping around as much aimlessly

mild ginkgo
exotic ibex
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its fucking fun

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okay

unique saffron
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stop for a second and walk

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or listen

exotic ibex
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ITS FUCKING FUN OKAY

unique saffron
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otherwise you miss

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K

mild ginkgo
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or HAVE A PLAN

unique saffron
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BUT U WANNA BE GOOD

exotic ibex
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nah i do against 500

unique saffron
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OR HAVE FUN?

exotic ibex
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idk why i dont against you

mild ginkgo
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he actually did used to stop and walk when playing me

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got me with a lot of surprise rails

exotic ibex
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infact i dont think i play at all the same way against you hollow as i did with 500

mild ginkgo
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ill be the first to admit that

unique saffron
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Idk even know what kind of style I am

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Think I'm a slower player when it comes to duel

exotic ibex
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i think it might be because you put me behind suuuper quick and i feel the need to catch up and that need pushes me to jump around and make noise.

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i try to make these things instinctual rather than thought based. cant think your way through too much in AFPS or fightan

mild ginkgo
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you hate having a stack lmao

unique saffron
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rekt lmao

mild ginkgo
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lol lets fight as a fresh spawn

unique saffron
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that'll surpise him

exotic ibex
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i'll fucking get you with the spawn weapon

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it'll happen

mild ginkgo
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he has twice my health but ill get im

unique saffron
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He has long range across the map

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but I'll get em

exotic ibex
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tthe rail will travel straight through my ribcage

unique saffron
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This hallway is a straight line towards a rail

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i'll get him

exotic ibex
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

mild ginkgo
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ill contest him while hes got rail and lg to keep me away with a 10 foot pole

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JUMP AT HIM

unique saffron
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I'll pull out gaunt and he will run right into my face even though he has LG out and could kill me

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got em

mild ginkgo
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9/10 scientists agree that jumping at your oponnent will spook them into surrender

exotic ibex
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i hate you people

unique saffron
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Especailly if you are bones

mild ginkgo
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^

unique saffron
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We love you Hank

mild ginkgo
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^

unique saffron
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It's tough love

mild ginkgo
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^

exotic ibex
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look i can smash you in fightan

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not 500 though. fuck akuma

mild ginkgo
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you can smash me in KI

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im waiting for that to come to steam

exotic ibex
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soon...

mild ginkgo
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im ready to lose 200 matches before i take a round

exotic ibex
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weeks rather than months

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qouted directly from IG themselves.

jade root
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nice DUSK talk

mild ginkgo
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tru, tru

jade root
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do i need to BAN

foggy wadi
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๐Ÿ”จ

unique saffron
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Dusk is a great game ๐Ÿ‘ Would buy again

exotic ibex
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you wouldnt ban me jab

jade root
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id ban scoot

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.ban @mild ginkgo

hollow ivyBOT
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@jade root You can't use this command on users with a role higher or equal to yours in the role hierarchy.

jade root
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fuck

graceful wing
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i'll ban him if he starts playing dota

rotund glen
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.ban hitler

jade root
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.ban @rotund glen

hollow ivyBOT
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@jade root You can't use this command on users with a role higher or equal to yours in the role hierarchy.

rotund glen
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.ban @jade root

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omae wa why didn't it work

jade root
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ripppppppp

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u lack the true power

slate edge
rotund glen
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HAHA

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SMOTE

mild ginkgo
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NICE

rotund glen
vague egret
limber pier
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Really activates the almonds

rotund glen
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he lives

jade root
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fuck

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mod overrides the 10 minute wait

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dammit lain

unique saffron
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I was getting used to Jab being gone

exotic ibex
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^

rotund glen
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I promoted you

exotic ibex
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leon betrayed you jab

jade root
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!problem

jade root
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good

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!cuffme

jade root
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all is good

rotund glen
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๐Ÿฅ’

graceful wing
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the administrative commands are disabled unless someone has an actual need to use them @rotund glen

rotund glen
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yeah I was just trolling

graceful wing
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you can always ban jab manually

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(please do)

jaunty meteor
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Will you be able to download custom maps directly from servers in Duskworld?

graceful wing
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way too early to say

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likely not

jaunty meteor
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Hmm

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Some games (Killing Floor 2 comes to mind) run a check to see if the server map is available on Steam Workshop, and either redirect the user to the workshop page or automatically start downloading it from Steam; would this sort of integration be something that the team wants to avoid?

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Considering it's releasing on GoG and whatnot

crimson folio
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i love the KF1/2 system

jaunty meteor
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Sorry if I'm asking these questions too early, but when it came to mind I really got curious about whether a system had already been agreed upon or if it was going to be the old-fashioned "You don't have this map, time to try googling a download" way of it

crimson folio
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but considering dusk isnt using steamworks or whatever it looks like it'll have to be a manual download

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steam users get a map off the workshop, gog players get it off some mod nexus thing i guess

jaunty meteor
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Really, all of Valve's games have spoiled me in that regard

crimson folio
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same

sick lintel
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well i think dusk will have steam workshop support altho i have no idea if thats true

jaunty meteor
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I'd hope so! That sort of integration would go a long way in emboldening server owners to host more custom maps

mild ginkgo
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this is great

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HDoomguy did this

prisma ivy
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Wow that's great lol

thorn trout
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hahaha niiiiiice

elder raft
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lolol

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this needs to be a doom mod now

stone thistle
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that pic needs to be attached

elder raft
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mhm

ancient epoch
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HDusk incoming pukes

elder raft
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lul

violet sentinel
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Great job on that poster, that's some quality Photoshop

thin sphinx
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"Tresspassers will be violated"

i feel like ive seen this before

crystal vessel
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The movie Scarecrows

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Very good movie

gleaming berry
#

Duks

west bolt
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nice

stone thistle
#

๐Ÿ‘

verbal solar
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i cannot wait for the multiplayer mode.

crimson folio
#

DUSKWORLD forever baby

gloomy agate
#

From what footage ive seen of duskworld, it looks nutty!

verbal solar
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its called duskworld? awesome

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the movement in dusk is fucking awesome

crimson folio
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yeah it is

gloomy agate
#

Quick question, Whats the morale? How does it affect you in game?

crimson folio
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it's Armor

gloomy agate
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Ohh, thanks ๐Ÿ˜„

stone thistle
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fun stream

gloomy agate
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Yeah that was pretty cool!

civic niche
#

seriously just purchased the game just because of his energy on stream, he loves what he does.

stone thistle
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I just noticed how fast the gibs of the Intoxigator disappeared after he was killed. Would be cool to have some kind of option for that in the final game so you can increase the time of gibs being visible or make them stay forever.

thorn trout
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@stone thistle internally we did some tests with that, and it will probably happen in the future. Likely post-release

stone thistle
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cool

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I mentioned some other small things some days ago. One thing was giving those Cultists more voice output like "DIE!" or something and the other thing was to have the stuff the Intoxigator vomits stay on the ground (on Cero Miedo) to make the fight a litte harder. Could that happen too?

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or you get drunk when you get hit too much by the Gator

exotic mulch
#

Whats the absorption rate on armor in Ducks

elder raft
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idk, do the ducks float when in water? and does your character weigh the same as a duck?

fair mirage
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duskdude is ethereal

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he weighs nothing because he cannot be measured by current technologies

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also, iirc it's like 50% or somethin like that

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on the damage absorption

jaunty meteor
#

Did I miss anything from the stream a couple hours ago?

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nvm, found it

thin sphinx
#

last night i went and got all the medals i was missing after the ep1 score derp

elder raft
#

Just beat Dusk Ep 1

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fantastic

rigid frigate
#

im still stuck on the second level

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damn

thorn trout
#

stuck on second level??? :O

limber pier
#

What's you guy's fastest time on head cheese?

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20.7 seconds for me

elder raft
#

what's head cheese?

warm wind
#

E1M1

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gotta say, the secrets were super well hidden on the second level lol

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and when I finally figured out what to do, I felt like a dummy ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

elder raft
#

right?
I love how it's ExMx...nice callback to doom and quake

warm wind
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totally

elder raft
#

also did anyone else find the PC where Dusk is playing on it? you click it and "I don't have time to play with myself"

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it's hilarious

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would be cool if for final realease you could sit at it, and play "dusk" on the PC, but instead of 3D it's 2D like D00M 95

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just like e1m1

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be a nice easteregg.....

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lol e1m1 of Doom but with Dusk textures

warm wind
#

now that would be something

elder raft
#

right?

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either that or some workshop support so we can do it...huehuehuehue; god I love this game ๐Ÿ˜„

warm wind
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๐Ÿ˜„

thorn trout
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workshop support is coming so... I assume that will happen basically instantly :)

limber pier
#

Will there be a simpsons dusk wad?

elder raft
#

Wooooooo

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Maybe I should make a dusk wad for doom

limber pier
#

D O I T

jaunty meteor
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Cool, very happy to hear about Workshop support!

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Is it alright if I repost my question from earlier, now that David's here? :B

hexed roost
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No he's gonna get really angry and scream

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do it

jaunty meteor
#

sweet!

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Gonna squish it all into one post, so...

Some games (Killing Floor 2 comes to mind) run a check to see if the server map is available on Steam Workshop, and either redirect the user to the workshop page or automatically start downloading it from Steam; would this sort of integration be something that the team wants to avoid?

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Oh, the context for this was "if you try to join a server running a map you don't have"

crimson folio
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that's a 500 question

jaunty meteor
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Well shucks, apologies

crimson folio
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np np

prisma kestrel
#

@thorn trout Ok, now I'm imagining a mod where someone makes it so if you sit down at the computer, it starts up Dusk at E1M1, which you can then play as normal -- then if you get to the computer in E1M8, you can sit down again and start another recursive session

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it's Dusk all the way down.

fair mirage
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@prisma halo do it

thorn trout
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@prisma kestrel O_o

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Beneath a Star Filled Sky 3d

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*Inside a Star Filled Sky rather

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I always mess that up

prisma kestrel
#

heh, had to goog it but this game seems cool O:

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interesting concept for sure

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so much for my idea being a joke i guess :P

thorn trout
#

It's a really neat idea but the execution is a little rough

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game does not play very well

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still worth a look just for the concept though

elder raft
#

?

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dusk plays good

foggy wadi
#

Inside a Star Filled Sky

brittle summit
#

Dusk really needs an exit game prompt

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Like how in doom it would call you a wimp if you quit the game

gloomy agate
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goes to exit game

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Voiceover dude: "lil bitch"

jaunty meteor
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You know, I just considered something, and pardon if it's a can of worms

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But if you can directly convert and play on Quake-format maps, wouldn't that mean you could very easily backport any map from Quake by doing a quick texture/entity swap?

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(I personally think that's sweet but I'd totally understand if people had qualms about it, considering it creates an opportunity for people to reupload old maps without being bound to give credit)

vague egret
#

porting older maps happens all the time in older games. as long as they are just community maps and not part of the official package, there is nothing anybody can do.

jaunty meteor
#

Yeah, it probably just seemed more significant in my head than it actually is :p

vague egret
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im sure there might be some legal verbage somewhere that allows original authors to DMCA those maps but its never enforced. its certainly not up to the game's developers to enforce that sort of thing. thats a losing battle waiting to happen

sick lintel
#

SFM porters do get DMCA'd every now and again

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but mostly because companies dont want weirdos making porn of their games

vague egret
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ask blizzard how well thats been working for them. like i said, losing battle

graceful wing
#

sfm was a mistake

exotic ibex
#

dusk sfm movies when

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and i say movies

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i want my 2+ hours of HUP and soap

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whoever has the EP1 record in endless

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you're about to lose it

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brb

sick lintel
#

well i'd be happy to port some more dusk stuff but nothing has been made with the leatherneck port yet afaik

jaunty meteor
#

Does Dusk support the conversion of Quake 3-format maps?

prisma halo
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Q3BSP was always the "intended" format from the start

jaunty meteor
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Oh, that's cool then!

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I was looking to see if anyone had recreated facing worlds in Q1, but all the results I found were Q3 maps

opal plover
#

Hey does anybody have a list of small architectural references in dusk, I already saw the doom e1m2 reference in e1m3 and the cragscleft reference, maybe if you do we should go to e1 disscutions

graceful wing
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don't think anyone's made anything like that yet

opal plover
#

Well I'm sure people got references to games others didn't play

graceful wing
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for sure, but i'm not aware of anyone making a list outta them

opal plover
#

Yeah, well when I was saying list I was more thinking of a list of personal observations.

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People had

graceful wing
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oooh

broken tulip
#

this area in the dim slough reminds me of one of the early areas in Half life, right after you encounter the first vortigaunt

jade root
#

Yeah I always think that too

spare hound
#

kinda also reminds me of that flooded part in quake

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where you activate pumps

crimson folio
#

it HAS to be a reference to half life

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its just too similar

spare hound
#

it HAS to be a reference to quake

#

its just too similar

elder raft
#

it HAS to be ar reference to Dusk

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it's just too similar

fair mirage
#

it HAS to be a reference to toast

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it's just too similar

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:^)

elder raft
#

They need to make a multiplayer mode where the Only weapon is soap, call it Prison break

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or maybe have a mode called "don't drop the soap"

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where you have to hold onto the soap for a set amount of time, but you can also kill enemies with it

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and they have to punch in out of your hands or something

fair mirage
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mod it in (tm)(r)(c)(dicks)

thin sphinx
#

btw what is the level 12-21 for in the dusk ep 1 game files

fair mirage
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most likely other episodes

graceful wing
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scenes for the main menu and endless maps and such

fair mirage
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or that

graceful wing
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there's no ep 2 or 3 content included

thin sphinx
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ok i was trying to figure that out since there was 11 SP ep1 maps the main menu screen and endless

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how many variations of the endless map/intro is there though

prisma kestrel
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endless variations

thin sphinx
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lol

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either way im just looking through dusks files with an asset deobfuscator to see what different things are called

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like gasmaskguy meat lass rat zombie

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tis interesting

crimson folio
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there was an EP 2 map at one point

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but it was patched out

crimson folio
#

holy shit is meatlass still in the files

prisma halo
#

yes

crimson folio
prisma halo
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the model is at least

crimson folio
#

david the absolute madman

prisma halo
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no textures or animations though, I don't think

graceful wing
#

Eventually โ„ข

prisma halo
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also, the "meat lass" you saw

frozen heart
#

Probably โ„ข

prisma halo
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is actually the leatherneck

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The model for the original meat lass is in the files, but it's referred to as "oldmeatlass"

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The Leatherneck is the enemy that ultimately replaced the Meat Lass, which is why Leathernecks are referred to as "Meat Lasses"

mild ginkgo
#

Enemy1

prisma halo
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Enemy1 is the name of the model & textures

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but the gameobject is Meat Lass

sick lintel
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i spent a while searching for leatherneck only to realise it was enemy1

thin sphinx
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ok so is there an image of the meat lass somewhere or is it just a plaeholdername for the leatherneck

west bolt
#

I can't wait untill we can finally play duskworld xdd

mild ginkgo
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its a lot of fun

west bolt
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gimme quakecon version plz

limber pier
#

Can we just play it now

mild ginkgo
#

i can

west bolt
#

even Churbot is playing it

thin sphinx
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QC version was fun

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but has some tech issues

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like maps having to manually changed

limber pier
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Churbot has been addicted to it for days

west bolt
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but theres pobably noone online

mild ginkgo
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alright i put a server up

limber pier
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Wait are there gonna be bots?

mild ginkgo
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@thin sphinx thats wrong

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you probably only played day 1

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we had a bug on day one that was fixed

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the game switches maps automatically

west bolt
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@mild ginkgo making us jealous?

mild ginkgo
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nah i thought you were gonna join and play

west bolt
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would love to but don't have the mp build

thin sphinx
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i was there on the 3rd day of quakecon

west bolt
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you mean you can give it to us?

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brb

thin sphinx
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i wish i could

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but no MP 4 ME

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yet

mild ginkgo
#

anyways, yeah, we were probably changing map by choice then

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it automatically changes maps

thin sphinx
#

ah

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cool

mild ginkgo
#

guys

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where are you

thin sphinx
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im here

mild ginkgo
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im waiting for you to join

thin sphinx
#

but not there

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just here

jade root
#

omw scoot

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be there in a sec

mild ginkgo
#

i bet everyone who played duskworld missed this

sinful crag
#

What even is that

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It's too dark

mild ginkgo
#

you serious?

sinful crag
#

It's too daaaaaaaaaark

mild ginkgo
#

it says "you arent supposed to be here, go away"

crimson folio
#

use the console to spawn jump pads in mp

mild ginkgo
#

k

prisma halo
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we've done that before actually

exotic ibex
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i think keaton found it

mild ginkgo
#

now the holy health is super easy to get

elder raft
#

wait...there's...a multiplayer beta build?

mild ginkgo
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its an internal build

elder raft
#

oooooooooooooh

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I was about to say, how the hell did I miss that?

jade root
#

scott im running aropund duskworld where are you

prisma kestrel
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hehe, cruelty n' dangling carrots

jade root
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i thought this was an mmo

prisma halo
#

Spawning enemies in multiplayer is more amusing

mild ginkgo
#

im revalidating my game files actually

sick lintel
#

gib molteplaye XD

mild ginkgo
#

i fucked something up

frozen heart
#

I've definitely jumped out there trying to break the game but somehow missed that lol

prisma kestrel
#

i definitely remember @hexed roost jumping out there while playing the game live on stage :D :D :D

exotic ibex
#

the turbonerd got mad ownt

frozen heart
#

LUL

prisma kestrel
#

sideburns got sideburnt

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[that match was awesome though tbh for real]

mild ginkgo
#

sideburns SUCKS

exotic ibex
#

by far our worst duskworld player

mild ginkgo
#

besides being DUMB

pastel venture
#

2hype4me

unique saffron
#

I'm pretty sure I won't jump at all

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Need to keep it as close to doom as I can

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Keyboard only, full autoaim

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Maybe even grow out a mullet

steel wind
#

thanks shillbot

graceful wing
#

S
H
I
L
L

frozen heart
#

K I L L B O T

exotic ibex
#

stank bot

austere egret
#

๐Ÿ‡ฉ ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฐ ๐Ÿ…ฑ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡น

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D A N K BOT

thin sphinx
#

stank bot

crimson folio
#

hank bot?

thin sphinx
#

jank bot

steel wind
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spank bot

thin sphinx
#

bank bot

austere egret
frozen heart
#

Where do I buy one

summer otter
#

never give up

steel wind
#

Can DUSK multiplayer bots pass the Turing test?

vague egret
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only if elon musk agrees to code the AI for us

steel wind
#

Well I mean unreal tournament bots passed the test and I'm 99% sure they didn't have ol' Musky boy coding for them.

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And if you had Musk on Dusk he'd probably request you change the name to MUSK.

vague egret
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the unreal bot didnt really pass the turing test. it was very close though. that bot simply mimicked the habits of the player it was up against. repeating similar mistakes and habits

steel wind
#

ah so it came down to manifest intelligence vs. original intelligence

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though I thought the whole point of the turing test was just if it can fool a human into thinking it is also human = pass

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but nvm this is off topic so

jaunty meteor
#

Is it possible to make bouncepads apply forward momentum in dusk?

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As opposed to just bouncing you upwards

limber pier
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Holding the w key while jumping on it

vague egret
#

cant think of any instance where that would be useful. especially when you're at max speed after a few hops anyway

hexed roost
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if you wanted to send the player to a specific part of the map via jump pad?

jaunty meteor
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Using a bouncepad to fling you forwards at a 45 degree angle in a small area where bunnyhopping is impractical for gaining forward momentum

hexed roost
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it's extremely useful and a staple of many AFPS maps

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a good question btw

limber pier
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Like momentum jumping from portal?

jaunty meteor
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If you want a more specific example, I'm making a map that's vaguely inspired by Boarding Action from Halo, which was a map that has two ships flying parallel to each other; instead of using teleporters to go between ships like Halo did, I wanted to use bounce pads that give the player enough forward momentum to clear the gap

limber pier
#

Like a man cannon

jaunty meteor
#

Yup!

limber pier
#

Ah I see now

#

That's a good idea

hexed roost
#

i'll take a look at it in the DW source and see if there's anything i can do

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if not i will bug the heck out of david

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because this is something i'd like to use as well

jaunty meteor
#

Thank you very much for looking into it! Even if it's not possible, I appreciate the effort

limber pier
#

Community involvement with game development always brings a smile to my face

hexed roost
#

๐Ÿ‘

thorn trout
#

๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘

gilded salmon
#

I just figured out you can jump while still upside down and i love it

elder raft
#

x.x

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oh gawd

coral oasis
#

hey so i dont really know who to ask specifically but i pre purchased dusk earlier today only to get back home and find that i cant play episode 1 or anything at all

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<@&240219175396704256>

vague egret
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check your library. look for episode 1

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it doesnt use the main dusk app

coral oasis
#

well now i just feel like a complete dumbass

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thanks

vague egret
#

๐Ÿ‘

coral oasis
#

i think im just gonna leave the server and hope everyone forgets me

vague egret
#

just hope avain doesnt kill you for pinging him. other than that, i think you're fine

hexed roost
#

rip

crystal vessel
#

Oh

gleaming berry
sullen carbon
#

Wow

prisma kestrel
#

beat the intoxigator while intoxicated in the game and in real life

fossil oriole
#

intoxinception

jaunty meteor
#

Is there/will there be any Dusk equivalent to Quake's func_train entities?

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Was curious if things like moving platforms/trolleys/cable cars/automated vehicles will be possible in custom maps

slate edge
#

func_vehicle

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pls add

thin sphinx
#

func_tank when?

prisma halo
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@jaunty meteor honestly, no clue

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it'd totally be possible to add one in manually though

jaunty meteor
#

What would that entail?

prisma halo
#
[Entity("func_train")]
class FuncTrain : Entity
{
    public override void Tick()
    {
        // do whatever func_train would do here
        base.Tick();
    }
}```
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a script like that

jaunty meteor
#

I really suck at scripting so I'd hope that I wouldn't have to create my own :p

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Oh dear, scripting

prisma halo
#

I'll definitely consider adding it, I just need to look into what func_train does

jaunty meteor
#

I hope this helps!

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It's meant to be a tutorial but it does just as well at documenting what all the entity does

prisma halo
#

oh dear that's a wall of text

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I'll probably just look at the func_train source code

jaunty meteor
#

I adore goldsrc-era mapping gimmicks like moving vehicles so it's much appreciated!

thin sphinx
prisma halo
#

oh huh

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that's simple

#

Yeah I'll add it at some point then

thin sphinx
#

id like to see that too

jaunty meteor
#

Awesome! Thank you very much!

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I have a lot of faith that Dusk will have a nice mapping/modding community if stuff like this is being done :B

prisma halo
#

I certainly hope so

jaunty meteor
#

Even something as innocuous as "you can make brushes move along a path" can add so much flexibility to creating a map

prisma halo
#

Definitely

crimson folio
#

gotta love 3kliksphillip

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@thin sphinx

thorn trout
#

duks update

crimson folio
#

today???

thorn trout
#

right now

crimson folio
#

yay

#

whats new

crimson folio
#

mortars detonate on impact now?

#

that'll be fun

thorn trout
#

it is :)

twilit cradle
#

woah thats much nicer

#

what is quicksave hover

jaunty meteor
#

Good job on fixing the quicksave hovering, it's appreciated

#

Basically by spamming quicksave, you could hover

twilit cradle
#

ohh

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thats cool

thin sphinx
#

huh well thats nice jefe

crimson folio
#

Don't ever really chat here so hope the question isn't annoying but, is there any way we can get access to DuskWorld and get to fragging each other or are we all going to get invites for that?

#

So excited lol

sick lintel
#

check pinned messagerinos

crimson folio
#

Oh! I will

sick lintel
#

๐Ÿ‘

crimson folio
#

Thank you!

sick lintel
#

np

sly cedar
#

anybody noticed the update for EP1? just bug fixes??

summer otter
#

@sly cedar the patch notes were posted an hour ago

sly cedar
#

ah i see it. thx

summer otter
#

fortune favors the bold

prisma kestrel
#

oh heyo, mortar texture update? O:

#

[well, I haven't seen it yet since I'm sneakily at work-land, but I'll check that out when possible]

#

[unless anyone's kind enough to provide a screenie]

thorn trout
#

@prisma kestrel

gleaming berry
#

UH OH

#

@everyone

#

R U

#

RED

#

E

junior bobcat
#

asdasd?

shut mesa
#

ye

formal turret
#

what

crimson folio
#

what

solemn jacinth
#

KEYS

gleaming berry
#

NG7FI-ZZ5XP-4?22N

quick frost
#

huh?

flat ibex
#

uh oh

gleaming berry
green pelican
#

??

strong delta
#

OH

frozen heart
solemn jacinth
#

go go

foggy plaza
west bolt
#

is that a dev build?

elder raft
#

But. I own it up

gleaming grotto
#

The secret letter is ๐Ÿ…ฑ.

young vine
#

i was not ready :'((((

elder raft
#

Meh. I'll wait for release

quick frost
#

was it a key?

elder raft
#

Yup

maiden cosmos
#

shit im late

crimson folio
#

invalid key

quick frost
#

oh well ok then

gleaming grotto
#

You might still have a chance

#

He didn't post the full key

round moth
#

give awa?

gleaming grotto
#

A letter is missing

brittle summit
#

what happening

tame crystal
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

maiden cosmos
#

is ? the space for the missing letter?

halcyon trench
#

What is the secret letter?

gleaming grotto
#

I don't know

modern trellis
#

Nobody here should need a key. You buy Duks now.

gleaming grotto
#

R maybe?

west bolt
#

to many activation attempts xd

#

w8

exotic violet
#

the secret letter bit sucks with steam's key cooldown

west bolt
#

I already bought the game

#

lol

exotic violet
#

me too but I wanted to try and solve it anyway lol

mild ginkgo
#

oh god help us theres no point in dropping keys anymore EVERYONE BOUGHT DUSK ALREADY

quick frost
#

Lol yeah pretty much

maiden cosmos
#

but i have no moneyyyyy

crimson folio
#

It's a trap

maiden cosmos
#

HERE COME DA MONEYYYY

#

KNACK BABY

gleaming grotto
#

Watch as it's like

#

An Omikron key

high spoke
#

You can always give them to friends

halcyon trench
#

I don't have it yet could you tell if what you have already tried?

mild ginkgo
#

so a game better than dusk

exotic violet
#

it's actually a knack 2 key, you're supposed to use it on psn

halcyon trench
#

Really?

exotic violet
#

(not really)

stuck lantern
#

It's a mount your friends key ๐Ÿ˜›

halcyon trench
#

Okay

dreamy tree
exotic violet
#

nice

gleaming grotto
#

It's actually a key for Devil's Third on Wii U

urban agate
#

actually it's a key for putt-putt saves the zoo

#

director's cut

#

GOTY edition

crimson folio
halcyon trench
#

Damn

crimson folio
halcyon trench
#

I wish woukd have gotten the code

gleaming grotto
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It's actually a PS3 download for the PS1 Classic: Thrill Kill by Ubisoft

halcyon trench
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Now you have to give us a new key because someone who already had it got it

dreamy tree
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It's actually a Persona 5 PC key

crimson folio
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It's actually a key for a key

gleaming grotto
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If somebody who owns the game redeems it, the key is still valid

crimson folio
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^

gleaming grotto
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But it was already redeemed so /shrug

halcyon trench
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Well it's not valid anymore

gleaming grotto
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So was it an Omikron key?

halcyon trench
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Yeah what key was it anyway?

gleaming grotto
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If it's not Omikron, Dave is fired

toxic lotus
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how many keys m'bois?

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only one?

halcyon trench
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How about one more?

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Just one?

toxic lotus
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should i be on standby or??

autumn compass
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nah

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no more

weak patio
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i tried to redeem the key

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"Product Already Owned"

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huh...

toxic lotus
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dammit mr wrestler man

halcyon trench
fair mirage
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B&

frozen heart
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Dave shilling stolen keys obviously

crimson folio
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advertising to the one guy who doesn't have it in this chat

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I swear he does this when he's really bored lmfao

prisma kestrel
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@thorn trout eeey! That's perfect :D

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[re:mortar]

thin sphinx
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@crimson folio can you get me a link to the wiki

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all the results are about the dusk to dawn video game

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found the link

mild ginkgo
thin sphinx
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thanks 500

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also hunting rifle seems to have some pentration ability through multipule enemys

exotic ibex
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the hunting rifles fires two 200 damage projectiles.

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i believe its 200 damage.

mild ginkgo
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yep

frozen heart
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Oh its actually multiple projectiles rather than penetration?

exotic ibex
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yep

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really clever. i like it a lot.

frozen heart
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I guess there's no way to do limited penetration? Or is it just easier this way lol

thin sphinx
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ok that makes sense and that is cool

crimson folio
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how does it work?

mild ginkgo
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its 2 histcans

crimson folio
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right...

mild ginkgo
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either both combined will kill your target

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or if the target dies on the first, the second will go through

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and hit the enemy behind it

thin sphinx
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frodo planning on adding that to the HR page on the wiki

exotic ibex
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its very useful info to have

crimson folio
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maybe ๐Ÿ˜‚

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fuck wrong emoji

exotic ibex
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that info actually helped a lot in my pre-alpha endless run.

thin sphinx
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also iadded that the mortar now explodes on direct contant on the mortar page

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since this update today

crimson folio
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i did it

thin sphinx
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you should have a section for cut enemys as well

crimson folio
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patch notes, nao!

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almost there

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more like halfway there

mild ginkgo
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cut content will go on TCRF

thin sphinx
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mortar was retextured and now explodes on contact gibs stay around a bit longer and a bug with quicksaves fixed

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ok cool

crimson folio
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Do patch notes get posted here?

mild ginkgo
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theyre usually over on the forums

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however generally there is discussion of them here

hexed roost
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fucking TCRF

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don't even get me started

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i still need to do FEAR and Condemned TCRFs

west bolt
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Did you guys add a difficulity wiki page now?

thin sphinx
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the wiki is frodo swaggins

crimson folio
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where could i link a page for difficulty???

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on the 'campaign' page i guess

thin sphinx
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the TCRF one is probaly going to be done by one of the mods

past linden
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What's TCRF?

thin sphinx
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the cutting room floor

crimson folio
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Ah i see on the hub now, thank you @mild ginkgo

past linden
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Still lost, what's that?

thin sphinx
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it a cut content website

past linden
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Ahh

thin sphinx
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it a wiki for that mostly

crimson folio
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i wish i could edit titles

thin sphinx
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video games

crimson folio
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i'd love admin on the dusk wiki

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if im going to add difficulties into the game mode section, i'd love to know stats

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i.e damage output increase for every enemy from accessible to cero miedo

frozen heart
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Soapmare

shut mesa
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this power hungy bitch

mild ginkgo
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^

crimson folio
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:(

shut mesa
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ITS ALL YOU WERE AFTER WASNT IT

crimson folio
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i've added so much shit to the wiki famalam

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i've pretty much given up now because its just me and some odd help with images etc.

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i need to contact that admin guy to change campaign to episodes

shut mesa
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iDONTGIVEAFOOK

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you... you SNAKE

crimson folio
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:(

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brb changing profile pic to venom snake

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right now im just going to keep politely asking this malvodion guy to do things

limber pier
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Punished (venom) Frodo