Says the guy who thought Doom 2016 was the shiz.
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
untold elm
crystal vessel
Did you even clcik the link lol
untold elm
yeah.
woeful sonnet
Thats not totalbiscuits comment
solar lynx
well, if people really think it's graphics are that terrible, they can feel free to mod in high quality textures and models
easy
prisma halo
I like how morons look at Dusk's visuals and assume that's all it does to be "retro"
muted tusk
They had to work harder to get those graphics
prisma halo
Then proceed to list all the things they think Dusk SHOULD do to be retro in their eyes
Without realizing Dusk does all of that
:v
crystal vessel
Yeah
solar lynx
yep
woeful sonnet
What I don't get is if some one doesn't like something why waste their time on it when they could be doing something they enjoy. Why leave a nasty uninformed comment its just pointless and helps no one.
frozen heart
Because they think their opinion matters
untold elm
lol
woeful sonnet
Even so they should at least try to be constructive in that, nothings going to get better if you cant properly explain whats wrong with it
sinful crag
so wheres ep 1
like
in steam
because now i just have a greyed out DUSK and can "purchase dusk for a friend"
but no ep 1
fossil oriole
it should be next to it in your library if you've preordered it as DUSK: Episode 1
pallid spoke
it should be under Dusk in the library
graceful wing
^^
woeful sonnet
About to test to see if dusk will work on my turd
jaunty meteor
It's a little weird how moving around physics objects is such a modern, almost anachronistic thing to put in a retro shooter, but it works perfectly in Dusk and doesn't detract from the experience at all
It's like a feature they'd put on the back of the box, if it were 1997
formal turret
blurg
the only issue I have with it is shit actually like having proper physics when you drop it
like half life crates would always land upright
no matter how you threw them
it should be more like. that
jaunty meteor
Like Deus Ex physics, where everything drops like a brick on a fixed arc?
formal turret
yes
jaunty meteor
That would make stacking easier so I'd have no objections :p
formal turret
makes it feel more genuine to the era it's trying to replicate
imo anyway
and stuff should rotate with you as you turn it
not you rotate around it
thin sphinx
heh that would be sweet
formal turret
yes it would
it just feels reallllly out of place things having actual physics
more like deus ex pls
jaunty meteor
It'd definitely be unique for the era in the hypothetical situation that it released in the late '90s, though
formal turret
there are no 90s shooters that do it so
jaunty meteor
Trespasser is a '90s shooter that does it
formal turret
can you really call it anything
jaunty meteor
Well, "shooter"
formal turret
other than a mess
crystal vessel
Heavily physics based regardless
formal turret
which is why nothing worked
formal turret
dunno
but that seems plausible to be in a 90s shooter
physics were limitations
unlocking an axis not do much
so*
jaunty meteor
Not a limitation, so much as a primative technology that people didn't understand how to properly utilize yet
formal turret
yes
desert storm
Give me Multiplayer, or give me DEATH!
desert storm
BOOM HEADSHOT
formal turret
Right
sinful crag
didnt DOS doom modded for mouselook have no locked z-axis
potent totem
"DUSK Epsilon edition sourceport darkplaces HD Texture / model / sound / particle / sky / font / music pack"
jaunty meteor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85DXmdkS2Z8&t=3m07s Can you still propblock like this?
toxic wadi
crimson folio
bronze field
ah eltorro64rus
jaunty meteor
Can enemies in Dusk give chase through locked doors?
i.e. if a chainsaw man is behind a locked door and sees me through a window, will he exit through the locked door
muted tusk
Dusk dude looks bad ass
jaunty meteor
IIRC DuskDude doesn't have a model much like how Gordon Freeman doesn't; the multiplayer just lets you use the models of other humanoid bipeds to represent your char
muted tusk
Ohhh ok
quiet rose
Correct.
muted tusk
I wanna see how flips look
gleaming berry
hexed roost
You'll have some sweet sweet Duskworld footage soon
tawny briar
DUSK multiplayer come on nintendo
muted tusk
Looks good
muted tusk
I guess we don't know.
gleaming berry
dafuq
jaunty meteor
Will androids come to dusk? inquiring minds want to know
tawny briar
robo rednecks
fossil oriole
adroinad sounds like a name for a robo spider enemy
quiet rose
@sinful crag Whatcha talkin about?
sinful crag
i couldnt find ep 1
because i hadnt been on a computer in literally an entire month and forgot that favorites were seperately listed in steam
quiet rose
Ahhhhh
outer storm
What's Duskworld, by the way? :o Multiplayer version of Dusk?
jaunty meteor
Yup!
I'm curious why the developers have decided to compartmentalize Dusk like that, myself
mild ginkgo
Because dusk is first and foremost a single player experience
sick lintel
it also probably allows for a lot more customisation, so each mode/game is not bound by the other
prisma halo
It'll likely all be merged at some point, but currently it's a lot easier to develop things as separate components
for various reasons
quiet rose
^
mild ginkgo
We're doing things with best interest in mind
Thing like mental separation for things like weapon balance being different etc
foggy tapir
Question, are the devs gonna make Duskworld a launch option or like a seperate app in Steam?
or just inside DUSK
sick lintel
I Think Dusk World Should Have An Equippable Nuke That Insta Kills All Players And Crashes Their Clients
outer storm
And blows up their computers
mild ginkgo
@foggy tapir it's a launch option
jaunty meteor
You know, it should've been obvious but I never gave thought to the weapon balance being different in MP
foggy tapir
@mild ginkgo thank god
sinful crag
ssg meta, just like in doom 4 MP
its actually totally gonna be nailgun meta
totally
the nailgun isnt gonna just not be in the normal mp rotation
totally
outer storm
What's the closest thing to a railgun in Dusk?
Because instagib would be great in Dusk :P
quiet rose
Crossbow
jaunty meteor
Not the lever action?
quiet rose
Crossbow is a lot more like the rail gun than the hunting rifle.
outer storm
The crossbow's not a hitscan weapon, right?
quiet rose
Correct
outer storm
Projectile-based instagib would be interesting.
quiet rose
its FUN
jaunty meteor
It penetrates like the crossbow
sullen carbon
Isn't the rail an instant hit
Like the rifle
The crossbow takes time to reach its destination
Or the bolt, rather
thin sphinx
the hunting rifle has bellet pen on enemys seems to have a reduced effect on the next enemysIE i lined up two scarecrows and ai fired through them 2 shots for the first like 3 or 4 for the second
then the crossbow pens through everything no dmg reduction
could be wrong
but thats what my experimentation has found
sullen carbon
Oh yeah, rail does penetrate doesn't it
untold elm
What if someone managed to recreate Quake Fortress in Dusk, 2fort and all.
I guess the maps wouldn't be hard to port, sense the maps are still used in Quake World servers.
shy finch
Oh damn, i was gonna pick up Quake Champions even though with the low player count but it apparently has horrid lag issues if you don't have a good upload speed.
I have 50 KB/S Upload speed and the game uses that much and more , the higher your fps gets.
and i can't go higher, my region doesn't simply support faster internet speeds due to old tech
muted tusk
That sucks
muted tusk
If you really wanted to try it, Id hunt for a beta key and go through bethed$a launcher.
shy finch
usually online gamesl ike use 5 or so KB/s but Quake can use over 50 KB/s, not a big deal forp eople with actual decent net but an issue for us stuck in countries that use ancient wiring
sick lintel
i was in beta so i could use it with bethesda launcher for free but its not that good imo
not much has changed since the beta
muted tusk
See if its playable enough to buy it for you
shy finch
mhm, I'll see ifi can get a key to test it
quiet rose
QC discussion belongs in #bnnuy-and-the-jits
muted tusk
Sorry
jaunty meteor
A discussion on Steam Forums made me realize something; knockback doesn't exist in Dusk, does it
As in, shotgun knockback, rivet launcher knockback, etc.
muted tusk
Self knockback or enemies?
sick lintel
i think the crossbow has self knockback
quiet rose
Crossbow has a knockback
jaunty meteor
Enemy knockback, sorry for not specifying
formal turret
yeah feels a bit off when you go right up to a scarecrow and ssg him and he stays completely still
shy finch
really ? Feel like it does happen
oh wait, actually when you kill em' they fly back
but if they're still alive nah, they don't move back from a double barell to the face
jaunty meteor
It's just something I noticed coming off of Blood, which has super noticeable knockback
formal turret
also enemies chasing you should open doors
if they don't already
I cant remember
shut mesa
they do
violet sentinel
atomic egret
how is this dusk related?
violet sentinel
Day 8, I still can't find the riveter. Starvation is kicking in and the morale it running low.
E1m2 riveter secret
jaunty meteor
You'll find it, I have faith in you
somber pilot
hey can anyone help??? i just got dusk but everytime i click play button nothing happens game doesnt start
vague egret
That's a weird one. Is there a Dusk process running in task manager after you click play?
prisma halo
Exit the game, go into the game folder (SteamApps/common/DUSK Episode 1)
Then go into DUSK_Data and send the output_log.txt file
atomic egret
Are you trying to run dusk or dusk episode 1
prisma halo
(Or if the game doesn't open at all, you can obviously skip the "exit the game" step)
prisma halo
Also are there any folders in the game folder that are named after dates?
prisma halo
huh, that appears to be a developer's output log (probably pushed to steam accidentally)
so the game isn't even reaching a point where it can write to the file
hmm
What's your operating system and specs?
prisma halo
x86 (32bit) or x64 (64bit)?
prisma halo
Did you have pre alpha access, and if so, did you encounter any problems with that build?
Also, what happens if you attempt to launch the game manually, and run it as administrator from the game folder
somber pilot
i litterly bought it 20 min ago
prisma halo
Alright
somber pilot
And i tried that it shows up in my task manager and then it dissapears
prisma halo
That's odd
Can you open Windows Event Viewer and check the application logs?
See if you can see anything related to Dusk in there
Or if not Dusk, Unity
somber pilot
how do i open windows event viewer
prisma halo
Under windows 10 you can open the start menu and search for "View event logs"
Then go into Windows Logs -> Application
jaunty meteor
Not sure if this will help, but right click on Dusk > Properties > Local Files >Verify Integrity
jaunty meteor
Aww heck
somber pilot
nothing there zombie
prisma halo
Hmm
Usually the game will exit without any errors if it detects that it isn't being run through Steam (for example, a pirated copy). It's possible the game isn't detecting Steam or something like that, so you could try restarting Steam too
Or if Steam's in offline mode, try going online
violet sentinel
Have fun
prisma halo
:D
violet sentinel
And make sure you don't get addicted
somber pilot
xd thx
atomic egret
S H I L L B O T
crystal vessel
I N V A S I V E
jade root
atomic egret
now that's a good shill
violet sentinel
Will coolbaby be a duskworld character?
prisma halo
better be
violet sentinel
Because yes pls
jade root
Most definitely
violet sentinel
Aw yiss
atomic egret
I will personally learn to rig and animate just to make it happen
violet sentinel
That's is a great story
"How did you get into animating?"
"Well there was this meme..."
"and a game"
brittle summit
Are there plans to refine the endless mode at all?
I feel like it could use some tweaking, especially with things such as how you only seem to get one health kit for the entire thing
also some sort of progression with the weapons might not be a bad idea, instead of just having access to all of the weapons from wave 1
jade root
everything is subject to tweaking
crimson folio
I really love Endless the way it is. If you take some unfortunate damage you can claw your way back with potions but you have to keep not getting hit. It's fun (for me) that way.
formal turret
I don't think bodies are supposed to die like this
also I can't screenshot shit so don't bother saying it
shut mesa
lol nice screenshot dweeb
potent totem
There should be an option (or mod after mod tools are out...) to make enemies have ragdoll physics when they die
potent totem
I know but it wouldnt hurt to have it be an option, would it? 😎
I really like ragdoll physics
especially if its like in source games
(hl2 to be exact, csgo physics are TERRIBLE)
jaunty scroll
create that and become the #1 dusk modder
potent totem
I dunno how the scripting will look like
if its just like gmod style where you type what kinda physics to put on it and when to enable it then it should be easy enough.... I think
crimson folio
Oh we forced memes now?
jade root
prolly no ragdolls
no reason
tyring to be a 90s shooter
90s shooters didnt have ragdolls
twilit cradle
yeah
twilit cradle
ragdolls appeared in like 2003-4
potent totem
needless options
jade root
nah
crimson folio
90's shooters didn't have physics objects either BUT HEY
crimson folio
Yeah no floppy Pitch Witches
potent totem
ok then I guess we will have to mod it in
twilit cradle
they would look pretty bad with these low poly models i think
potent totem
but still
crimson folio
That's what I'm calling Fork Maidens now. Pitch Witches.
jade root
the way the models are set would make ragdolls impossible, btw
crimson folio
Yeah, people are talking about porting some of the models to SFM but rigging em is impossible
crimson folio
Oh? Had no idea, cool beans
potent totem
the guy is probably gonna try working on the weapons next
im gonna code them for gmod
crimson folio
Sounds great, good luck with that.
It'll be funny when the enemies get ported into gmod, I have an addon that can grow monsters/npcs, so GIANT GOATS AND SCARECROWS
potent totem
Ill have to remember about porting soap too
crimson folio
That'll be hilarious, just throwing soap all over the place
While you're at it see if you can do something with some of the cut weapons like the throwing sawblades
woeful sonnet
So its official dusk runs on my piece of crap laptop
crimson folio
It's tidy for a unity game
shut mesa
very
woeful sonnet
Also working on a leatherneck sprite
crimson folio
noice
sinful mauve
is there gonna be like a presentation on multiplayer and its features or is it just having an area where people at Quakecon can play it?
graceful wing
i'm not 100% sure actually. still waiting for details from the folks at the booth
i'll let y'all know as soon as i've got the info
sinful mauve
thanks Avain
autumn compass
avain you at qcon?
graceful wing
nah, flying over there is just unreasonably expensive for me
dave, david, 500, unmutual, hank, lain and rezulux are on location
autumn compass
noice
crimson folio
Well, that was embarrassing, but here I am, finally on Discord! Sup, fellas!
graceful wing
welcome! 
vague egret
👍
crimson folio
woah, went to fetch a beer! Thanks!
is the discord software worth the bother or should i stick to the in-browser interface?
crimson folio
god, this is adorable, one of the teams on the current Quake Champs stream have g2a in their names. sure, Beth, keep pushing that, I'll make sure to keep buying my games on the cheap there... :L
will give it a try then!
graceful wing
whenever i see a "sponsored by G2A" banner i just want to punch something
anyways let's switch over to #bnnuy-and-the-jits since this isn't dusk related 👍
crimson folio
i'm completely lost when it comes to this interface, do i just click #bnnuy-and-the-jits on the left?
graceful wing
yup! you can also just click the blue highlighted #bnnuy-and-the-jits text
jaunty scroll
i also recommend the desktop version, fwiw i seem to recall the mic stuff not working as consistently for me in the browser one
unique monolith
Sooo
Duskworld?
Oh, now I see
Good luck on Booth!
May the dopefish be with you!
graceful wing
news really soon hopefully!
unique monolith
pleasebededictandbots
modern trellis
Hey guys, besides multiplayer, was any ep2 content going to be shown off?
graceful wing
nah no new singleplayer stuff at Qcon
muted tusk
Good luck
potent kestrel
Will there be Scott's Mystical Heads in Dusk?
graceful wing
Doubt it since it's apogee's property
sinful mauve
Duskworld == multiplayer Dusk?
muted tusk
Yup
potent kestrel
@graceful wing But then again, could they linscense them? I would LOVE to collect them. If not, then I guess I will have to add them to my game then
graceful wing
licensing is something you're better off asking dave about as i can't give you an answer here
crimson folio
derp!
just beat Ep 1, a couple of thoughts, i may drop them on the steam hub as well
while riveter feels awesome versus regular enemies, it chews through bosses a bit too quickly for my liking, to the point where it almost trivialized them. while i'm not for a damage nerf, i imagine bosses can be given a bit of damage reduction vs riveter only
somber pilot
^^^
violet sentinel
@hollow ivy How about you leak some of that Duskworld you're playing atm. We won't tell the mods, sickle promise 
drowsy kindle
Remove pillars from the first boss room, give him more moves as his health decreases
Also needs to be faster imo
hollow ivyBOT
Never!
outer storm
Is Churbot a custom bot? :o
shut mesa
nice spoilers my dude
graceful wing
chur's based on a publicly available open source bot
crimson folio
seeing the game played with bilinear filtering on saddens me 😦
toxic lotus
litterally 50% of the comment section
crimson folio
y doe, 4 reels
i'm a strong believer that you can teach people good gameplay even if you force old gfx on them
i had a colleague at work who never played Doom 1/2
toxic lotus
kiddies just want "muh gwaphix"
crimson folio
so i persuaded him to give it a shot and he tried the games for a couple of days and said that even though he could not really stand the graphics, he did understand the appeal and fun factor of the gameplay
crimson folio
dude started with Quake 3-era games, can't blame him
toxic lotus
there were still good games in late 90s/2000s
im not gonna talk further about this in here
shut mesa
ur almost as old as him
crimson folio
this is incredible
kids at quakecon
and they're like 10
and i thought i was young
shut mesa
you are
graceful wing
most conventions have an age limit of 12
crimson folio
i wish Romero would sit down and make a few levels for Dusk
graceful wing
heh
graceful wing
he does like the game though, he's even got a dusk screenie as his twitter banner (unless he recently changed it)
crimson folio
those kids are not playing dusk the right way though
they're not bunnyhopping at 500 miles per hour
LAAAME
i loved Romero's new doom maps, both of them, i think the man still has it
Sliding 4 victory
refer to my speedrun of level 1
The Way Its Meant To Be Played™
modern trellis
He's too young to see those juicy gibs. Jk, I was playing GTA when I was in kindergarten, so what do I care.
sullen carbon
My friend played it for a bit before we started d&d the other night and grinded my gears
crimson folio
my parents had their orders fucked
playing halo and half life 2 at 5
cant play gta until im 12
graceful wing
kinda interesting if those kids are allowed to play wolf 2
some cons give different passes to different age groups
sullen carbon
Not only did he select e1ms randomly from the level select, he didn't know how to strafe jump but wasn't taking cover to fire
crimson folio
that one moment when he turns around after getting the hunting rifle makes me cringe
sullen carbon
Just jumping into all the cultists and walking around at normal pace trying to shoot them all while in the middle of them
crimson folio
hes supposed to jump strafe out of the crows nest and circle strafe around the wizards
smh smh
sullen carbon
Also all kids need wolf in their lives :)
crimson folio
oi, don't judge, i'm an old fart but the first time around on cero miedo, i played like a bit of a pussy
sullen carbon
Hey I mean no judgement, whatever gets you through the level man
graceful wing
well you die fast on CM if you're not careful so it's a good idea to take things slow at first
learn the enemy placements etc
sullen carbon
Any time I see a forkmaiden I typically go find some corridor to duck in and out of
crimson folio
i want to see kids react to dusk and wolfenstein II PRONTO GRANDE
after i ran into the first monster closet ambush, i got super paranoid
elders react to RTCW
fuck it
sullen carbon
I do have to say that circle strafe jumping in tight quarters while murdering a ton of baddies is super satisfying though
shut mesa
:^)
crimson folio
i limit myself to just circlestrafing
sullen carbon
Especially hitting those hunting rifle/ssg shots while going very fast
crimson folio
the squad
could be that i'm primarily a Doom man and not so much a Quake man and i don't have the habit of jumping as much
sullen carbon
My smile gets progressively larger with each consecutive shot
Oh damn David is there :)
crimson folio
hey, i have the same Doom logo tshirt, cool!
sullen carbon
Still no Hank though :(
crimson folio
yeah where the fuck is hankerino
potent kestrel
FUCK YEAH JUST PREORDERED/GOT DUSK!!!!
potent kestrel
#FUCKINHYPEM8
crimson folio
congrats!
potent kestrel
Downloading m8
potent kestrel
Cant fuckkin wait bois
crimson folio
lol
potent kestrel
@gleaming grotto good idea
gleaming grotto
One with three computer labs
crimson folio
its always windows xp or 7 for me
potent kestrel
@crimson folio Trust me, Linux is MILES better than iOS
Seriously, apple is so shieet
Well, goin' 2 play some DUSK boiissssssssszzzzz
gleaming grotto
Now, the school I actually go to has a shit computer setup
potent kestrel
Woah 
crimson folio
that loading screen hit you hard, huh?
gleaming grotto
And it will become more lit with dusk installed
potent kestrel
Brb playing dusk
crimson folio
brb more like bbl
gleaming grotto
More like wbb
gleaming grotto
I'm just explaining why I would like a dusk Linux port
sullen carbon
Oh I know
gleaming grotto
Okay
crimson folio
shillbot is so rude
sullen carbon
S H I L L
crimson folio
churbot more like nahbot
thorn trout
@crimson folio well PART of the squad. Missing @exotic ibex @quiet rose the admins and jab
quiet rose
Yea, i couldnt go because money/health reasons
crimson folio
petition to make jab's role 'jab' instead of a mod
quiet rose
If i had the cash to go, i wouldve gone in a heartbeat. The health reasons arent that severe
thorn trout
WE MISS U STEEV
crimson folio
i am not looking forward to my school history trip to new york
no family, just the school
sullen carbon
Flying alone sucks
graceful wing
@thorn trout copnvince dave to sponsor my flights there next year and i'll come for sure hehe
crimson folio
flying to mexico was a 10/10 experience
graceful wing
flying to the US is not really an option for me atm
thorn trout
@quiet rose is ok, maybe next year 🙂
crimson folio
its not fun watching kung fu panda 3 and the plane starts shaking, its like a prank done by the pilots
David, you wonderful human being, now that you're here, just wanted to drop a personal huge THANK YOU for what you've given us!
thorn trout
@graceful wing it'll be easy when dusk makes notch $$$
@crimson folio thanks very much!
crimson folio
yeah i second curunir
i'd be bored out of my mind if it wasnt for dusk
i love booting it up and finding new secrets
cant wait for episode 2 & 3
the age of the internet!
it's like being able to chat to Romero back in the day!
graceful wing
for context i was looking at flight prices earlier in the summer and flights there n back would've cost me well over 2 grand
crimson folio
finding the [REDACTED] in e1m8 was a 10/10 experience
thorn trout
👍
thin sphinx
frodo you mean E1M10?
crimson folio
nope
fervent meteor
AAA @thorn trout PERSONAL COMPLAINT ADD MORE ENEMIES INTO THE SEWER SYSTEM ON SECRET BOG LEVEL LOVE THE LEVEL DESIGN BABY, REPLAYED THE FIRST EPISODE LIKE 5 TIMES ALREADY 👌 💯
thin sphinx
or wait is e1m8 the wall
crimson folio
lets discuss the secret level in #345953464720949250
thin sphinx
it is i remember
potent kestrel
Just tried out Dusk... My fucking god this game is AWESOME!
But I do have complaints
Like most of the weapons are lacking in detail, especially the shotguns and pistols
fervent meteor
i liked the chunky shotgun textures
while i think pistols need some more details in texture
but who cares about graphics anyway
stone thistle
the super shotgun is awesome
graceful wing
any and all feedback is always welcome. myself and the mods frequently grab suggestions from here and pass them on to the main dev
fair jolt
some of them look better than others. There's maybe a little room for improvement. At this point I don't notice anyway
Are we likely to see a bit of Duskworld footage over the weekend or is it a case of you have to have been there?
fervent meteor
rivet and grenade launcher stand out from the rest, other weapons are just fine as they are imo
woeful sonnet
it occurs to me because I'm a moron the one i showed before was really fuzzy due to how low res it was so I upscaled it to make it look better.
fair jolt
think my favourite fps guns to look at are the rocket launcher and rail gun from quake 2. They're just chunky enough. Great sound effects too.
fervent meteor
i think i know what's wrong with rivet and mortar
the top textures are a bit too light
especially mortar's
i might be stupid but because of this i can't tell them apart for a 0.5 second while fighting
making the mortar's texture a bit rustier might make it look better overall, plus it might help with telling the two weapons apart
stone thistle
@woeful sonnet that one woulde make a nice collector's edition figurine
fossil slate
Did not get to make it to Quakecon, had trouble at work and had to go in, soooo disappointed. 😦
woeful sonnet
Just a voxel guy 😆
fossil slate
I was looking so forward to it
thin sphinx
my thoughts on the weapon design since we are talking about it sickles,pistol,all shottys,crossbow,hunting rifle are really distinct
the only two gun you could get confused are hunting rifle/shotguns (negated by haing different places for the weapons)
and the mortar/vs riviterperhaps have the weapon show rivets or mortars
potent kestrel
I think either Mortar or the Riveter should be a black color
winged otter
I like my grey riveter color
fervent meteor
rivet is fine, i think mortar should be dark brown like quake's
potent kestrel
And please, add more detail atleast to textures of shotgun and pistoles
thin sphinx
grenade launcher is like light tan and dark blue
potent kestrel
@fervent meteor the mortar should have those blue thingies like the quake grenade launcher
quiet rose
Weapon designs are pretty.much final.
thin sphinx
i think having some way of seeing the riviters ammo
analog sable
they feel very nice
thin sphinx
or a bit of a orange glow
potent kestrel
Well rip then
thin sphinx
they fel nice just mortar and riviters are really similar
fervent meteor
we're mostly talking about textures though
potent kestrel
Yeah
fervent meteor
not the models, the models are great
thin sphinx
models are pretty spot on
quiet rose
Okay. Weapons are final..better? :p
fervent meteor
yupayup
potent kestrel
Quake also had extremely low poly models but the textures made up for it
crystal vessel
I think they all look great
potent kestrel
They look decent
quiet rose
There are no plans to change weapon textures right now.
thin sphinx
they look pretty good but my issue is that mortar and riveter look extremlly sialer
potent kestrel
I also think that the cut M16 machine gun looked very similar to the one in goldeneye
crystal vessel
I'd say the shotguns in Dusk are far more detailed than the ones in Quake
thin sphinx
thats fine though
fervent meteor
if there were 1 choice for a change of texture i would 100% pick mortar since it's impractically too similar in color to rivet
potent kestrel
I believe its the same texture re-used
thin sphinx
think the riveter magazine bit could be made orange
potent kestrel
Also @thorn trout Will you share the early alpha from 2015/2016?
fervent meteor
i like the dusk shotties, in quake they look like 1 flat texture
quiet rose
@potent kestrel hes at quakecon and is likely not to respond.
Also probably not. Its so outdated
potent kestrel
Well, can he respond later?
thin sphinx
there was talk about maybe adding the pre release level so people can see it
quiet rose
He wont see it in a few days
potent kestrel
@steev Lameduke was outdated but no one cared
thin sphinx
but not the actuall alpha
potent kestrel
@quiet rose I should probably just send him a PM in that case
quiet rose
All i can say is we shall see.
thin sphinx
the topic comes up often enough that ive seen that a couple times
quiet rose
Besides 3 other people, im the only person from the team here for the next few days.
potent kestrel
@quiet rose what do you do for dusk anyways?
quiet rose
QA
potent kestrel
Oh
thin sphinx
it think 500_points is working on mp
quiet rose
Yup
potent kestrel
I also played ROTT2013 recently, it is quirky but fun
thin sphinx
and andrew does th OST
quiet rose
Yup.
thin sphinx
yeah
potent kestrel
Andrew is awesome smh
thin sphinx
andrews the same composer for ROTT 13
analog sable
rott2013 was a mess at launch but i had some fun with it
pretty sure it's dead now though
potent kestrel
I talked to gim, hes a nice guy
analog sable
mp that is
potent kestrel
@analog sable Sad, cause it is a good game
thin sphinx
i enjoyed ROTT 13 when i played earlier this summer
quiet rose
K. Errand time. Behave kids.
potent kestrel
@Nore the MP isnt THAT dead
thin sphinx
quick steves away post anime
analog sable
it is though
graceful wing
did someone say anime?
analog sable
trust me
potent kestrel
Not that much
graceful wing
who am i banning?
analog sable
i played it back when it first launched lol
quiet rose
Rott mp hasnt had a event for a month
analog sable
there were a lot more people
quiet rose
Its dead
thin sphinx
whistles
quiet rose
Well Rott has nothing to do with dusk
thin sphinx
be fun to play ROTT mp
analog sable
lol
quiet rose
Please keep this dusk related
thin sphinx
#bnnuy-and-the-jits bois
sullen carbon
I wonder if the m16s look similar because they're modeled after m16s
graceful wing
yea we used to run those with lain but we eventually stopped since it just didn't get enough attention anymore
potent kestrel
@quiet rose what about andrew hulshult and jumppads?
thin sphinx
andrew does sfx too actally
analog sable
dave was also there
stone thistle
release date on steam (october 31) is a placeholder right?
potent kestrel
He did an awesome job then
thin sphinx
yep
fervent meteor
i do hope it's not a placeholder
thin sphinx
it is
crystal vessel
It is
potent kestrel
Better than doom 4's sounds
fervent meteor
aw well
potent kestrel
@
quiet rose
Busy
hexed roost
We're HOPING to hit that date, but it is in no way set in stone
graceful wing
we're aiming for a 2017 release
fervent meteor
31 is my birthday and dusk's release could've been one hell of a present
stone thistle
hope the real one will be before that date
graceful wing
highly unlikely
sullen carbon
We'll just keep our fingers crossed for halloween release
potent kestrel
Well i dont care i got episode 1 and its gooo00oooOooooOoOOOOO000oo0OOOd
stone thistle
so true
fervent meteor
13 hours into first episode already
potent kestrel
Will Dusk have friendly npcs? (Like those stupid civillians in blood)
fervent meteor
i think i've played too much for my own good
i can't see any place for friendly npcs but that would be fun
especially if they would drop bonuses like in blood
potent kestrel
Well, user-map only bonus then?
stone thistle
DUSK will no doubt be my "game of 2017"
thin sphinx
yeah a flag for making monster friendly is cool idea
fervent meteor
David "secretly" said himself that he would love if people would get into the source code and heavily mod the game
thin sphinx
i got QC and dusk
analog sable
lol
graceful wing
QC isn't gonna be a 2017 game... atleast i hope it isn't
fervent meteor
so maybe we'll make our own stuff for user maps
graceful wing
that game is filled with issues as of now
graceful wing
^^
muted tusk
Same
analog sable
dusk is good though
potent kestrel
@fervent meteor Remeber when the Blood civillians screamed "Theres no place like home"? Damn that line is random
thin sphinx
yeah
muted tusk
QC feels weird to play after playing Dusk for so long.
fervent meteor
i don't think it's random within the context but it's kind of funny
potent kestrel
Because BETHESDA
I thought it was weird @fervent meteor
Like, you are getting stabbed and you scream "THERES NO PLACE LIKE HOME!" Like WTF?
fervent meteor
well they thought they're in a nightmare so there :p
muted tusk
I thought they were high on heroin
potent kestrel
How did I NOT think of that?
Also, as far as I know Blood and TekWar are the only 90s fps to have friendly humans in then
unreal dove
On Steam someone said the game could come out either before (albeit not very likely) the Oct 31 release date or after. I'm hoping it at least meets that date cause it would be awesome if this was out by Halloween
muted tusk
Well I know Anarki and Slash are, thats how they get to Quake, kind of.
fervent meteor
if person is running around the forest, naked and screaming "THERE IS NO PLACE LIKE HOME" he's most likely A. Kidnapped B. high on heroin
potent kestrel
Both
fervent meteor
we should
potent kestrel
Yeah
drowsy kindle
Ayy I won a free hat at Quake Champions
thin sphinx
quake con or champions?
drowsy kindle
Quakecon
drowsy kindle
Where'd you get it
thin sphinx
perhaps ill need to get a quake hat
thin sphinx
texas national video game mueseam
drowsy kindle
Nvm
drowsy kindle
My favorite part about champions
Is when the framerate randomly went to 15 fps
Oh and stayed like that for the rest of the game
crimson folio
this is it
from now i'm bouncing rubble in the sky in every dusk map for as long as i can
thin sphinx
he
crimson folio
was in Through the Gate and spent ~20 seconds balancing / keeping a large chunk in the air without it touching the ground
thin sphinx
love you can leave boxes on jump pads
fervent meteor
you can probably do some cool show-off kills with mortar and jump pads too 😉
fossil slate
I played Prey after playing Dusk and it felt like I was moving in slow motion!!
Crazy the speed, should be a lot like the original Doom
In MP
crimson folio
haha, prey has MP?
jaunty meteor
Oh hey, someone asked about innocents in dusk
That's something that really doesn't exist in FPSes at all anymore, does it
crimson folio
a what?
jaunty meteor
Innocents were harmless friendly NPCs in Blood
crimson folio
you mean fodder for health refills, right? or was that just in B2?
jaunty meteor
They sometimes spawned HPs, yup
Can you imagine the moral panic if Blood was made in 2017 instead of 1997
You can kill innocent civilians who beg for their lives to get more power!
crimson folio
well, Hatred did come out...
fossil slate
No, Prey doesn't have MP. Just playing SP
fervent meteor
which prey though? bethesda's marketing team does it again. Doom (4) Prey (bio-System Prey-o shock)
muted tusk
Original Prey had really cool level design imo
fervent meteor
i love the original prey more than the new prey
different games though, but still
the unreleased prey 2 had an interesting story premise if it had happened
your dead clones everywhere
crimson folio
i wish i lived in the USA so i could go to quakecon
flights are way too fucking expansive
limpid island
BRUTAL DUSK, it needs to happan.....
tawny briar
zombie make it happen
fervent meteor
dusk is already brutal
fossil oriole
do you see how far enemies get flung when shot with a shotgun that's brutal as fuck
fervent meteor
well it already has the "flip" option
crimson folio
Brutal Doom is a terrible thing, why would you want Brutal Dusk
fervent meteor
it just needs glorified finishing moves and it'll be "brutal" dusk
untold elm
Brutal Doom is great dude.
limpid island
wat did i start
crimson folio
brutal doom is bad
if you like brutal doom you're brutally doomed to have shit taste forever
jaunty meteor
I wouldn't call it objectively bad, but the mentality of its fanbase is a big reason of why it has a poor reputation
Imagine if after 15 years of playing baseball, someone brings a football onto the diamond and starts dribbling it around the bases
And everyone says "this is the way baseball is meant to be played"
fervent meteor
it's the fate of everything that goes mainstream
i still think brutal doom is a good mod
people just need to shut up about it already
sullen carbon
Brutal doom > ultimate doom
crimson folio
banmed when
jade root
lets not talk about brtual doom
opinions on that are gonna be polar opposites depending on the person and i dont want to moderate that
crimson folio
h-dusk when
jaunty meteor
https://twitter.com/romero/status/897430794041520128 Wow, how'd I miss this
Twitter
jade root
check his banner
crimson folio
holy crap
jaunty meteor
I'd say an endorsement is already an opinion, in a way
You wouldn't endorse something you didn't have a favorable opinion of!
jade root
well if he puts it as his banner, we had to make some sort of an impression
sullen carbon
For sure
jade root
no one thinks "wow im gonna change my banner"
jaunty meteor
wow jeez I didn't even notice
stone thistle
too bad he wont give his opinion about it << he already did 😃
jade root
oh he did?
stone thistle
that banner on top does say all you need to know
jade root
yeah thats what im saying
buuuuuuuuut
some written words and a tweet from him would go a long way
we did send him a key
stone thistle
maybe he'll wait until he checked out the final thing
crimson folio
dude also has the sense to sift the swill from the gems
tough marsh
vague egret
@tawny briar #345953464720949250
tawny briar
got it
unreal dove
Dang that must feel like a true honor
fossil oriole
daaaamn 👌
sly cedar
the real question is, HAVE THEY REVEALED DUSKWORLD YET????
sullen carbon
F
crimson folio
not before release, brother
fuck this waiting, it's past 3am
will watch the multi footage tomorrow
limpid island
Have yall noticed something? The cult's symbol is facing one way on wall's n'stuff, but they face another way of the guys with hoods on. (I think there called Lurkers?) What gives?
limpid island
Oh, thanks
untold elm
Samsara for Dusk World.
ancient epoch
Churbot for DUSKworld
frozen heart
Wild Woody for DUSKWORLD
ancient epoch
im curious to see what the maps look like though
fossil oriole
I would seriously love to see Wild Woody be the first player model ever made
untold elm
Wild Woody?
unreal dove
That sounds like one of those things I should be afraid to Google
untold elm
I know right.
unreal dove
Hey wait a minute @ancient epoch I recognize you from Youtube comments
unreal dove
Yeah I wish there was more stuff on Youtube for this game
ancient epoch
there has been quite a bit lately
ever since you can play EP 1 there have been videos from LGR, GGGManlives, Total Biscuit, ICARUS, Gameranx etc. (Gameranx comment section is cancer though)
unreal dove
Yeah I've seen those though (except Gameranx) lol. I just have an itch for Dusk-related content that's probably not gonna be fixed until the game actually comes out
And the comment section on all of those videos is cancer
analog sable
most comment sections are pretty bad
ancient epoch
I just cant believe how bad the comment section was on the Doom guys channel (ICARUS) I figured out of all channels they would be the last ones to complain about graphics... NOPE
unreal dove
Let me tell you about how tired I am of reading graphics complaints in comments sections
ancient epoch
haha
unreal dove
The comments are always either 12 year olds complaining about the graphics or elitists complaining that the game can't stand up to Doom and Quake. It's almost as if it's a little unfair comparing to 2 of the genre's greatest masterpieces developed by one of the most famous and influential game developers of all time
bronze holly
does anyone know when the mp reveal is :>
ancient epoch
we won't see it I guess, they will just record it with their phone
warped saffron
Will DuskWorld become a part of Ep 1 before release? Or is that a full release thing...
drowsy kindle
idk lmao
unreal dove
I think it's gonna release when the full game releases
covert raptor
it's coming with the full game
warped saffron
All my friends are losers and won't play games without multiplayer... WOOF.
ancient epoch
I prefer SIngle Player
modern trellis
Will we be seeing an appearance of the Griswalds at Duskworld?
ancient epoch
used to be a MP only guy as a teenager but I grew out of that
drowsy kindle
warped saffron
I've been playing more MP lately but there ain't nothin' like a good level design ass havin', enemy ass comp with good ass guns game.
pulsar junco
random trademark lmao
ancient epoch
I prefer Clown Vomit
muted tusk
How do I set that
ancient epoch
visual options > colour
vague egret
@untold elm #345953464720949250
untold elm
oops
ancient epoch
just visual options dude
graceful wing
not censored enough. i can rell what level that is
analog sable
lol
ancient epoch
haha
unreal dove
Git rekt
ancient epoch
ill point it at a wall next time
graceful wing
👍
ancient epoch
better censor me
vague egret
@ancient epoch dont push it
fair mirage
get shill'd
mild ginkgo
Guys we'll upload a clip soon
We're working on the game first
I see you @drowsy kindle
We're gonna get the shit nice and ready
drowsy kindle
?
ancient epoch
gotta record that camfootage at Quakecon eh? 😉
hexed roost
no we gotta get Internet lol
graceful wing
good luck uploading anything on hotel internet lmfao
ancient epoch
can you use one of those shitty rocket sticks?
jade root
He'll do it for 3 ration tickets
ancient epoch
usb internet FTW
graceful wing
this is the US we're talking about
jade root
Dat 15kb upload speed
graceful wing
they're not allowed to have good internet
ancient epoch
US doesn't have usb internet sticks?
ancient epoch
Bell is awful
fair mirage
you just gotta pray to your local deity that you have options in your area
graceful wing
i'm paying 35$ a month for a capless gigabit connection 
fair mirage
well good for you mr. europe
ancient epoch
my local deity is a 50 year old cheap hooker that everyone uses
jade root
$75 a month for 30mbs 
graceful wing
gg
jade root
Technically we are supposed to have 60
But Spectrum caps us at 30
For whatever reason
ancient epoch
ill just sit here and wait for Google Fiber
dies of old age
drowsy kindle
Never coming
ancient epoch
I can download Dusk in like 2 minutes though so we all good
ancient epoch
thats painful
jade root
Gg
ancient epoch
so a regular youtube vid would take all day for you huh?
ancient epoch
I hope the "how to Dusk" series continues on youtube
ancient epoch
that last vid was amazing
graceful wing
@jade root the internet on my phone is over 3 times faster than your home connection :/
jade root
Ye
ancient epoch
rub it in Avian why dont you
ancient epoch
@graceful wing where do you live?
ancient epoch
I live in Canada but on the same line as California so I get nice weather and healthcare mwahahaha
ancient epoch
southern ontario is on the same line as northern cali
fair mirage
prolly drinks like one lmao