#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
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Basically you can use Quake editors
But that won't be the main editor
sweet, making maps in JACK will be a blast
You make the map in a Quake editor but you would have to import it into the "real" editor after to load it in Dusk
Because reasons
that's fine
Also hol' up are you who I think you are
Skype prank calls ring a bell?
with undead003?
Yup
lmao blocked word
Nothing much, same as usual really (also we should prob take this to #bnnuy-and-the-jits )
Quakecon will be great this year with dusk being there!
but only then
SOON BABY
Im starting to get sick of that word
we all are son it will be over SOON
Is coop confirmed or no?
post-launch
ah ok
#soon #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk #daveisacoolguy
Due to the constant use of SOON, makes me humorously think new blood might trademark the word lol
To set the record clear, Dusk will have a proper SDK primarily because @prisma halo is amazing and has take that project on himself. He's the one who deserves the credit.
π
Thank you for making hdusk possible
Thanks Zombie!
anyway to apply for review copy?
Become notable enough so that the devs notice you
Can't wait to try it out on my CRT Monitor
I'd recommend posting that in #gami_g
The mods/admins don't take too kindly to non-dusk posts 'round these parts
Whoops, thank you
Has anybody made/collected some dope Dusk wallpapers? 1080? Phone size? Eh?
You know, saying that now wants me to replace my wallpaper on my phone with anything related to Dusk.
God dammit that's a white Phillip not a black Phillip
Didnt you hear?
Things went wrong
Very wrong
Better kill everything
Soon we will face our Doom
But first we must kill the rednecks
Even if we quake in fear
*rampage through the rednecks
Even after theyve branded us heretics


Or for the sake of Jabronii-chan


Better kill everything
Especially animu
Especially!
I will play dusk so hard i will invade tonight we riot and unfortunate spacemen online matches and i will kill them all
But before that happens you will hear a modem dial up connection sound
https://gyazo.com/d59196c73b03f32ed686cff35dee118b this makes me happy
i wonder if dusk devs would be cool with people porting some of the models to source filmmaker once the game is released
I don't think the'll have an issue since they've been more then happy to see Zombie take the whole thing app art a few times now and put it together but you can always just ask
?
Nothing really stopping you from extracting models and using them as you like.
We won't pull a blizzard and go after the SFM community because some nerds wanna make porn or whatever
dusk rule 34

well I mean
don't think it's not gonna happen
^
someone somewhere will want to fuck something in dusk
Dusk r34 already exists. I seen it
see?
with the exception of meat lass you'd pretty much have completely redo 90% of the models for rule63
really
No its not worth looking at
You're welcome
Im sure someone will add 4 extra polygons onto all models and call it a day
polygonal jiggle physics
Old school tomb raider disagrees
o fuk
4 boob?
i am very unformfortable how you guys are going into detail about ploygons depicting this shit
nonce
Big fucken strokey fucken nonce
#bnnuy-and-the-jits is where you should be reading this at
We're REALLY looking forward to this one. #FPS @duskdev @TheNewBloods #Dusk https://t.co/31YuKO5O4f https://t.co/mBE9RCLQ44

I Need Dusk
Me 2
Me 3
Me quatro.
Out of curiosity will endless 1 be available for those getting the beta and 2 does it have a difficulty selection?
endless will be included and yes, it'll have the same difficulties as the campaign
Alright thanks
By now you've hopefully seen that we're bringing @DUSKdev Multiplayer to @QuakeCon - but the coolest news is yet to come. Stay tuned, kids π https://t.co/6auRkRrpeK
$5,000 QuakeWorld Tournament at #QuakeCon 2017 to be sponsored by @TheNewBloods @DUSKdev https://t.co/JTAiejsP0i #chur
Really looking foward to "the coolest news"
sweet
Oh I was expecting a release date, Well back to lurking.
GET OUT
Nobody else finds it funny/ironic that duskworld is sponsoring a quakeworld tourney? Lol
yeah its quite funny
It just seems like good marketing to me
it means more people will be playing duskworld at quakecon i guess
because dusk is sponsoring it
Send me Dusk R34 in PM

LEAKS
HANK!!!!!
big leak skelly
π
@exotic ibex so when are you havinga portait mad of you?
when someone decides they give a fuck and draws it.
Didn't that one guy already do Hank fanart?
at one point, yeah.
that was in my quest to achieve 10k in pre-alpha endless though
image of me claiming my endless score.
Fast you say?
Whats the fastest someones beatenβ the demo without breaking it
:54
Wow
was that you?
55
may be a low 55, I dunno π€·
gilby could do better
hehu
They just set delay to soon
yup
Yup.

You can get a haste one that makes the guns shoot a lot faster for a short amount of time
Nice
my highest score so far in endless is 5600
My highest score is I DON'T OWN A KEY

By the way, what are those random code drops?
!keyfaq
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
There are 2 ways to get keys currently.
1) Lurk the discord and hope a key is randomly dropped
2) Attend New Blood movie nights (every 2nd Saturday of the month)
Key begging is considered spam and will be removed / ignored
Ah, thank you!
gotta be fast though
cause theres 2.5 million other lurkers looking for keys as well
like @exotic ibex
fucking lurkers
lmao
what sort of movies do u guys watch?
Movie night? Physical?
good movies
yup that'll probably be your best chance at free stuff
the discord keys get claimed in less than a couple seconds usually
Damn
had one go over 15 minutes without getting claimed once
but thats because dave hid it in a random channel
Think ive been watching the trailer more than is healthy
Just wish it was longer π
If only the next DUSK trailer is a 2 hour long movie
^
If only dusk would release soonerπ
Ahh I remember that
When Dave his the key in #qa when everybody thought it was a questions and answers chat
@frozen heart You could marathon the evil dead movies, but there aren't any cultists though
Here's a method for getting the most out of a trailer
Watch one second of it, and then start over
Then watch two seconds, and start it over again
and so on
and so on.
what about when i hit 7 seconds
watch it frame by frame using the , and . keys
Ok everyone, here is my frame by frame analysis of the new Dusk trailer.
"In this frame we can see Dave's fidget spinner in the corner in front of the lens."
do you guys THINK there will be an EP 1 release before glorious QUAKE CON?
idk?
ye
I DUNNO
<_<
_>
he knows something... get HIM
I HAVE IMMUNITY
immunity to what exactly?
he enabled iddqd dude, you cant harm him
i wasnt going to anyways
Dave said ep1 would be before
hopefully π
Duskcon
before quake con??? hype π
Lol dusk cancelled before Quakecon more like
Savage
whaddup guys, just discovered this little gem, any way i can play the alpha?
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
There are 2 ways to get keys currently.
1) Lurk the discord and hope a key is randomly dropped
2) Attend New Blood movie nights (every 2nd Saturday of the month)
Key begging is considered spam and will be removed / ignored
at this point your best bet is to wat until [DATE REDACTED] for [REDACTED] to start
:3
coughwheneverquakeconhappenscough
drum roll
cymbal crash
is this legit or trolling
Only time will tell
all i can say is that you'll want to keep your eyes peeled during QC
when is qc anyways
in a couple weeks
my peen no longer wants women
K
only dusk
YES
π
https://twitter.com/DUSKdev remember to follow dusk on twitter btw
spanks you much
really love hulshult's work btw, dont know where else to say it. game sountracks make me hard
stop playing with my balls like that and let me give you money
^
andrew's music is incredible
im in love his doom remakes, any more work of his?
im going to be at i61 during QC so might miss the announcement
https://www.youtube.com/user/nukdukemfornever you should be abvle to find some stuff over here
hand cannon is frickin good
2spoopy4me
The one and only
ya like metal?
Been awhile dude
Seems hot new DUSK action was all it took to bring you back
That and my being basically done with this damn place.
I've been stupid busy and exhausted
But I'm on my way out, thank fuck
ya like bloodbath?
the mood of this game is so perfect, the alpha gives me a children of the corn feel
Bloodbath is okay. Their first album is the only one that's really a must, though. Just listen to Grave or Carnage; same sort of deal, but the OG Stockholm sound.
slayer bc edge
hmmm
i will always love slayer
slayer's must album is reign in blood
meanwhile in path of exile
oh no
god hates us all
South of Heaven, you mean
no
Oh, Lawd
dusk + noose?
maybe i should listen to that one then
fuckin
But what if Slayer makes a cameo appearance in DUSK?
^^
support
if dusk is cancelled
RIP Dusk
how will i ever get in this church?
go through the doors?
Door machine π ±roke
no B
noclip
boneeerrrrrrrrrrrr
Including steam workshop?
its on the drawingboard
good puns
lol Jab
Dusk looks like Pokemon Go
very nice
I dig it
Imagine a physical box with the logo and scythes embossed.
id buy it
a jewelcased disc with printed manual thumps around in the cardboard liner. you slice the top seal, and open the box. the new pc game smell hits your nostrils. you also find a registration card that promises entries into sweepstakes, and discounts on future purchases.
The sickles dont look very sharp
They look very nubby π
But otherwise π
whats this thing?
any words on the price yet?
20 USD
thank you my dude
thats amazing
Very nice art
its a rough sketch
but it's getting there
the artist working on it iz very good
sick
Oh that sounds awesome
so your going to put ep3 monsters on the bottem
Needs a "horror" sticker
@austere egret ...............SOON
BRUH
THIS LOOKS AMAZING
i havent been excited for a game in forever, thank you for this
Dave, that gave me an erection. Good box art is KEY.
I have a new phone screen
bro im hard too
GGGman made a new vid its not dusk
he probably has a schedule he does games on. dusk is likely next.
oh
the people who have it aren't allowed to say a word about it currently
Am I under embargo?
a permanent one
π
what the hell
SATANNNN
so how long do people have to wait to make vids on dusk
Soon β’
you little
what he said
i heard stalker was a source of inspiration, that true?
yep
how so? been a huge fan of it since soc came out
i dont know ask a mod or admin or dave or david
but i think its in ep2 like the black mesa and stalker thats what i think
whats in ep 2?
@tender kettle the general atmosphere, especially in specific levels
as well as some visual elements. The skyboxes for instance
So now that you're here
Will dusk's episodes be released periodically, or all at once?
I hope we can talk to the monsters in DUSK and sort things out peacfully π
That too
I don't want it to be like that nasty, hyperviolent "Bioshock Infinite"
yeah
those violent videogames are making all the children violent and worshiping satanist neo-nazis
@jefe stalker is bleak done well, dusk gets better and better, keep up the good work, you guys have my $20. id be happy to support you guys as much as i can
brb taking Bioshock talk to #bnnuy-and-the-jits
they will be all part of Dusk proper, not separate releases.
@tender kettle thanks :)
@thorn trout thanks for making art instead of a aaa cash in, makes me wanna dev games tbh
π
So now we simply play the waiting game
I'm a little late to the party but that box art is absolutely amazing
So, y'all hear about video games?
I hate those things
you hear about DUSK?
I know right, played a video game and got botulism
never again
@crimson folio NICE AVATAR
if anime weren't banned here i'd be dumping so much GSC right now
GSC was a pivital part of my development into the misanthropic pseudo-weeaboo gun-nut degenerate I am today
Please, take this to the designated anime chatroom
understood, so, howsabout that dusk

look at this guy and his hacks
chur
fucking lol
I would've gone with eyup, which is why I don't make the big bux
ill have you know
i was gonna make it say "yeet"
but Chur is on brand with the company
chur is appropriating my culture
@exotic ibex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYSUbqrjLGw
A guy on discord being proved wrong
what?
Shouldve probably put in general but fov
the fucking fisheye my dude
I love it π
Need Bruce Campbell to voice Duskguy
At least thats how I imagine Duskguy would sound
preorder?
β’
a week soon i bet
I DUNNO COULD BE ANY LENGTH OF TIME REALLY. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
π
will ep1 be out the same day you can preorder the game?
Sooner than me grabbing a 40
Its today
"okay dusk will release today at 12:00"
fake news
Dusk is coming out today, no bamboozles, my dad works for sega
will it be possible to make weapon mods and shit in dusk?
yup
my dad works for jagex and he says its not coming out today so yea
aw yiss
Yes. We have someone making a SDK for it
cant wait
Dusk for snes pls?
DUSK for magnavox odyssey
Dusk for 3ds
dusk for been-there-done-that
read section AB: the millions of photoshops made of dusk on different games consoles already
k
Well, time to end my life with a big bang.
it never does
The cool kids club flaunting duskworld stings for sure
Especially knowing that'll be another few months
Yeah
Any day I have to wait for Dusk is a day that makes me depressive.
David is making something beautiful, so I don't mind the wait
i get excited episode 1 is coming 'sooner than you think'
but that could be in 5 months

I know I've already said this a zillion times, but quake con, Frodo
My avatar look too happy for me beeing so edgy.
ill give you a hint of the release window
dont be edgy. we like you less. ask geno
this is very accurate
I'm only edgy when I think about the fact I can't play Dusk. But well, might have found a game that fills my depressions.
Just don't mention that you're edgy...
k
Yeah otherwise the mods might not like you, and you definitely need their validation here 
But they have a little fun with you too
can u plse release the game now!
We can also thank @hollow flame for that
will
make a cameo in dusk
go conspire to make our jobs harder in #bnnuy-and-the-jits
Dusk for the smartphone is a great game.
Yep
Dusk on Nvidia Shield
dusk on expresso machine
Dusk on Apple TV
I would hope
Then there are going to be the ones who will get the shield version to work on android phones
If theres ever someguy saying to me "Hey, I'm playing Dusk on my smartphone right now" i'm gonna kill him.
Why?
you sorta can. i can stream dusk to moonlight and play dusk on my phone that way
Every shooter on a smartphone is a pain in the ass.
Yo less memes, more selling me DUSK cmon cmon cmon
but that means they feel they HAVE to play dusk
Not If you connect a controller to youre smartphone.
I think it's a win
People have gotten Nvidia shield games to work on smartphones
They'll just need a controller
adaptors to hook up a 360 pad to a smart phone are very cheap. meh
"controller" blech
Alright, I went ahead and made your jobs harder in #bnnuy-and-the-jits
Like you asked
Koopy Sandwich#3341
153018309619613696
OH SHIT
bye
not having the discord link bookmarked for random kicks
smh
heck
HE'S ALIVE!
I've only been kicked twice and I still have it bookmarked
I bet you wont kick me
Oh shit
Luckily I remembered the server name
No
.kick @crisp orbit
tasty echos#1881
160819289639616512
if you insist
Got them
Sorry i thought i was there
That emoji is better
LOL
i kind of want the personas of jab and avain in duskworld as models
I wanna have my anime waifu in Dusk.
"Free me from this prison"
I want a dakemakura of dusk guy
actually SHIT I JUST HAD AN IDEA

plox tell me thats a real player model

no dusk 4 u
Dusk isnt for lurker scum like you
tf is a lurker
Somebody who lurks
wow thank you
Yeah animeme mods
it will be done
It cant be
HDusk
do you guys know what engine they used
Dusk?
Unity
minecraft
^
Gldsrc?
with enb
Diesel engine
Jet engine
It's actually a mod of Brutal Doom
who do i trust
me
Frostbite
is it cryengine
#meme-review actually
Dusk uses Unity? wow i thought all Unitygames are asset flips and bad games for a quick bug of steamgreenlight to earn money from trading cards
That's the image that those games have set for Unity... Truly unfortunate
unity is as legit as UE. unity gets a bad rep from scammers on greenlight
DUSK uses Unity to the best of it's abilities. When you play, you don't even know its unity
unity is a fine engine
One reason unity games get a bad rep is because only the free version of unity shows the logo before the game
its the people who use it are the problem
All the good unity games hide the logo
Like dusk
indeed
id show it a little, just to say fuck you i made a good game on it
But the unity logo makes the game bad
dusk needs no filhty splash screen
Lol
no "loading anime" line
That's real btw
This is fake
Actual dusk startup
bit outdated tho
fakerealDOS
Slightly
loading SOON
^
I would give both my legs to play dusk right now
I hope that's real for real
that's awesome
HDD noises and all
its pretty great
The HDD noises make it
In the words of my dad soon is not an answer
Seriously though that is exactly what he would say π
Can I play as black phillip in dusk multiplayer π
yep
Does that throw off any of the balancing would you say or no?
oh it totally does
LMAO
but dusk isnt aiming to be the next e-sports
Dave still have his own skin?
its supposed to be something fun you play with your buds on a saturday night
I think there should be a gamemode where it forces the soldier model tho
Well they are holding an event for it at quakecon
^
I was actually just gonna say are they going to force certain models
Holding a QuakeCon event doesn't equal trying to be eSports though (god I hate that fucking term)
It doesn't have to be an esport, but one option shouldn't objectively be better, competition makes MP games succeed, even doom was boosted a TON by Deathmatch
It's not the sole factor
But balance is always good
meh
Think of it like Oddjob
Agreed with Amlealok
Agreed beeSawd
Oddjob shouldn't have made it past QC
Are you sure you agree with me? Lol
It just ruins the MP even if it's not an esport
Because I don't give a single fuck
Because it's just something for fun with friends
^
If someone picks the short character you shame them for it and move on
Oddjob wasn't fun though
if you dont like it, theres still an enitre 33 level campaign for you to play
For anyone but the guy playing as oddjob
yeah
Yeah looking down isn't a pain in the ass
you can still hit shit
still do cool shit
but the models have different hitboxes
thats all
I just think there should be a mode that forces a hitbox
there prolly will
There's another thing called gitting gud
how will Black Phillip hold his weapons though
Cool
he uses telepathy to hold them in the air
pew pew
but yeah duskworld is very much WIP
To balance Black Phillip you should have him be standing up on his hind feet instead
Rat playermodel
itll be playable by Qcon, but itll likely be more of a fun sitdown and play a round experience, rather than a full and cohesive multiplayer
Bosses as playermodels
players as playermodels
itll likely be more of a fun sitdown and play a round experience, rather than a full and cohesive multiplayer
Why not both tho?
Look at melee and Quake 3
because it's still in devolpment?
Did you know that Quake 3???
Both fun to play with friends and competitively
attack helicopter as palayermodel
^
If you want to play Quake 3, go play Q3 lol
I demand weekly balance fixes in duskworld based on what the current meta is
I'm not saying it needs to be fixed right away
Duskworld isn't trying to be a Q3A clone
Come back, look at what we can do here
there's plenty of those with varying levels of shittiness
But having one character model having a smaller hitbox is just unfair
Like Oddjob as Amlealok mentioned
too bad youll never be rad
(It's really not that hard to hit)
Except instead of getting good just select the smaller player model
Oddjob was mostly annoying because of the shitty controller/control scheme
Honestly I just want Duskworld to be fun, be its own silly thing, like timesplitters.
problem solved
Unless you legitimately NEED to use maximum autoaim to play Dusk
you won't have trouble
duks mp is srs bzns
Yeah timesplitters had the monkeys! And only bitches bitched about the monkeys
The monkeys were so easy lol
No one should have to select the meta character though, just make everyone use the same hitbox like in Q3
How many times are you going to mention Q3
quake 3
And how long will it take you to understand that this isn't Quake 3
I know
Do you know?
It isn't?
I don't feel like you actually do
But Quake 3 did this specific thing well goldeneye did not
So i'm talking about those 2 EXAMPLES
you know i was around when rott13 released and a bunch of us played the mp together
But i'm saying it shouldn't have 1 hitbox smaller then the rest
My point is that the problems you are mentioning with Oddjob simply aren't there in Duskworld
It doesn't have to BE either
no one complained about anyone using the shortest character, loreli
They are though
Because it's not hard to fucking hit someone who is slightly shorter than you
How about you give us duskworld so that we can play it to "see if its balanced"
You can mod dusk and make a mode that bans black phillip boom problem solved
Having 1 character objectively better then another (even if by a bit) it makes the game about selecting that character.
Unless you're trying to land headshots, which don't even make a difference here, you're not gonna have trouble hitting the blackphillip
you're gonna be shooting low or mid on the character model
which lines up for all hitboxes just about
Still the objectively better character though
Heaven forbid
Even if by a bit
It's not like that matters
says the guy who never played duskworld
haha yeah really
i'd like to point out duskworld was likely an afterthought and not really the main focus of the game
I haven't, but it doesn't take an expert to know that that's unbalanced
Wrong
Smaller hitbox = harder to hit
MP was always planned
You're talking to people that regularly test this thing
Yup
I'm aware
Hi. We test it. How r u
I've yet to see evidence of your awareness lol
regardless, the meat and potatoes of the game is in the sp as far as i can tell
Please the Mp is just in WIP
There have been no issues hitting black phillip, ever. Compared to soldier
No reason to argue over it
Exactly Manniacc
If it's going to be fixed it's going to be fixed now
Early in development
But black phillip is objectively better!!! 1
^
tbh I think I've honestly had less of a hard time hitting black phillip than solider lol
Lets drop this, ya?
ok guys here's the official stance: if Black Phillip's hitbox causes significant issues during playtesting, we'll deal with it then.
TY
Don't worry, we've got great people behind the scenes making sure what ships is going to be both fun and balanced for fun
Jefe bless
And if need be just make a "bee's a whiny bitch" mode that forces the soldier model π
Zombie is correct, Dusk is not intended to be a QA clone, and we're also doing what we can to set it apart from other deathmatch games. But we won't be releasing something that's broken and frustrating. Whatever decisions are in there will be decisions made to make Dusk as fun as possible.
Honestly, im more curious if there would be dedicated servers for duskworld.
Amen π
yup that's the plan
I think i was misunderstood i didn't mean make the game Q3, i meant make all the hitboxes balanced like in Quake 3
I want Dusk to be its own thing, this is David`s baby.
the basic philosophy with Dusk is to make it as open and versitile as possible for the community
Nice, but not a necessity here
Like Quake 3 right?
so dedicated servers, modding, etc, on whatever timeframe resources and other factors allow
Balance is nice in any game
If its an issue, let admins restrict it, maybe :P
Having some stuff be unbalanced makes it more fun imo
Yeah this isn't really supposed to be EAT SPORTS
Eat sports lol
I believe little bits of choice unbalance, applied properly, can be fun. Like I said, there is and will continue to be extensive testing
And Q3 has a TON of balance issues, it's not perfect, but it did the model/hitbox thing right, again, i'm not saying make Dusk a Quake clone, i'm just saying that taking cues from it here may be a good choice.
basically anything that's fun is a go, anything that's not fun is a no
Good choice
Its 100% fun right now
I can't wait to try it
Others will agree with me
hell yeah!
Duskworld's fun as fuck
Im not alone thinking this
and I have like 200 ping
because Australia
compared to people with like, 10
and it's still a blast
that's definitely the plan :)
good
I'm hoping that we can show you guys a little bit of DW while it's being played at QuakeCon
i remember the fun we all had fuckin around in rott13 with saturday night rott
if you guys go to Qcon there's a chance you will see lain and hank in person
If only I was competent at level design or modelling......there are so many new blood memes that need to come to life.
why would you miss that opportunity
AND play duskworld
I'll be there in spirit
Same
yeah if you can make it to Quakecon you should stop by
Whats not to like?
i am getting an oculus rift in a couple days and it made me realize that i think dusk would be rad in vr
And motion sickness inducing
Make a dusk acselerating treadmill to play dusk vr without nausea
Yeah but it also flips upside down
Yea. No VR for dusk.
I'd play dusk in vr for the same reason I played quake with 360 degree fov, to prove that I could
quake with 360 fov was cool tbh
^^
Mercator projection for dusk when?
ok if you had that then there could not be any complaints regarding fov ever
Add low poly lorelei playermodel 
No
We dont have the rott rights broh
Im only teasing

We need NB meme models tho
dave soldier's already in the game tho
yo can anybody tell my where the red door is in the demo level?
at the beginning
by the thing
OH
*oh
*OH
Now I remember
Cool
I've beaten the level for the first time now
How many hours will it take an average player to complete Episode 1 on the default difficulty? Gimme that hot estimate, people-in-the-know π
As long as you need
depends heavfily on what you do
Plus I don't think we are allowed to say
Aw fair enough
You'll find out very soonβ’
Well soon(tm) isn't soon enough if you catch my drift
3 hours
The game actually released last week and everything is an elaborate ruse
What's the deal with the "Total Biscuit" FOV?
he likes his fov in games
He is a mutant with eyes in the back of his head so he likes his FOV to simulate it
^ correct ^
I also will use his fov
The following FOV setting is intended for TotalBiscuit only.
Well i'm a madman playing doom at 180 fov
Its free FOV
good
You don't seem to get the reference. :(
I've seen part of that not all of it π
I like high FOV as much as the next guy, probably even more, but 180s just pushing it.
Hank didn't believe me so I made a video to prove it π
360 fov should be the minimum

360 fov options or riot
@quiet rose I guess you could say...
(Damn it, I was scrolled up somehow)
ROTT roh
so what is this
meat lass







