dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[crimson folio]

Oh

So you probably won't know what Kaiju Combat is lol

[vague egret]

I know what kaijus are. Bout it

[modern trellis]

Dave was poking fun at Strafe so much. I love this guy.

I want a shirt too.

[crimson folio]

god damn if they told me about the pre-order before...

[tawny briar]

now what

[crimson folio]

strafe needs to fix the healthpacks

i'll buy it when normal isnt fucking hard mode

my heart lies with dusk forever

this man will make fps great again

even though doom 2016 made it great

[modern trellis]

I'm glad I didn't get a key. Totally preordering the shit out of this. Big box fuck yeah.

[crimson folio]

david'll make fps GREATERER

[serene needle]

#nicebeard

[crimson folio]

dusk hype turned to 5 BILLION

mfw

[serene needle]

tfw dusk baby is qa team

AND NEW BRUTAL DOOM VID

[crimson folio]

so fuckin hyped

[tawny briar]

same

[prisma halo]

I can pretty safely say that it only gets better from there

[thorn trout]

here's a taste of things to come

[crimson folio]

WOAH

[verbal sand]

ooooooh

[tawny briar]

zombie u know when pre order

[crimson folio]

what date do we have on pre-order?

[narrow mica]

is that a meat grinder

[prisma halo]

I love that screenshot

it looks so good

[thorn trout]

let's just say Ep2 goes to some hellish places

[verbal sand]

nice

[modern trellis]

The rural PA vibe really hits home for me. It's like you took the small towns I drive through all the time, and flipped a horror/thriller/action-movie switch.

[narrow mica]

yeah

[serene needle]

what is ep 3?

[narrow mica]

it feels like evil dead at points

[modern trellis]

Great work fellas. 10/10 getting an application from me in 6 months haha.

[thorn trout]

https://twitter.com/DUSKdev/status/883396635765522432

DUSK @ RTX (@DUSKdev)

A taste of things to come...

Twitter

@serene needle ep3 is going to be basically insane Lovecraft nonsense a la Quake

[tawny briar]

pre order date ?

[serene needle]

Nice!

[crimson folio]

the chainsaw men should be replaced with a model of dave holding a chainsaw

yes

[tawny briar]

that would be great

[crimson folio]

''ZOMBIE'LL MOD IT IN''

[tawny briar]

yaaaaa

[prisma halo]

TOO MUCH RESPONSIBILITY

[tawny briar]

we are waiting

[serene needle]

So is the pax build still SOON TM

[modern trellis]

PRE-ORDER DATE

[crimson folio]

aaaa its going to be so awkward going up to my dad and being like ''refund strafe pre-order dusk lolololol''

skinny short dave running with chainsaw

[hexed roost]

there is no such thing as the "pax build" anymore

[tawny briar]

@modern trellis ya pre order date

[obtuse apex]

steal mommys credit card

[hexed roost]

it's EP1 with a fully fleshed out set of features

[serene needle]

oh so its the rtx build?

[hexed roost]

you guys will be the first to know the date when it is announced

it's EP1

lol

just call it EP1

[crimson folio]

is it within 2 weeks?

[serene needle]

k

[modern trellis]

TAKE MY MONEY ALREADY

[tawny briar]

k

[hexed roost]

it is

SOON

alright

[serene needle]

SOON TM

[upper rover]

if episode one comes out in July i'll shit my pants

[tawny briar]

next week soon or next year soon

[crimson folio]

next week soon im guessing

[tawny briar]

hope we can hope

[hexed roost]

look it's going to be sooner than eventually

YEAH I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT

NO BUGGOS

YOU AREN'T GONNA BE

FALLING THROUGH THE MAP IN DUSK

[tawny briar]

challenge

accepted

[serene needle]

happened in pre alpha

[prisma halo]

that was a Unity bug

rather than a bug with Dusk itself

unfortunately

That's fixed now, though

[tawny briar]

so is the test level going in the final game

[crimson folio]

lmao

[prisma halo]

I can't answer that myself, but I'd probably guess no

[crimson folio]

WILL WE SEE MEATLASS

[prisma halo]

ask David

[crimson folio]

[tawny briar]

thicc

[modern trellis]

You mean the framerate won't be absute shite? I wanted flip-book quality framerates out of my retro-style fps games...

Like Strafe...

[mild ginkgo]

I personally did a bunch of optimization passes, it performs pretty well

There is also a low spec mode for those with lower end systems

[prisma ivy]

Nice

My computer is shit

[mild ginkgo]

You can get 60fps on integrated graphics

[hexed roost]

^

We've tested DUSK on craptops, it still works

[prisma ivy]

And although I have FPS issues in the alpha it's still playable. Nice to know it only gets better

[thorn trout]

per alpha FPS is awful

[prisma ivy]

Yeah it's like Im playing ROTT or something

:p

I can't wait to play with all those stupid colors

[graceful wing]

you'll be able to SOON ™

[fair mirage]

RISE
OF THE
TRIAD

[prisma ivy]

heat_death_of_universe_meme.gif

[graceful wing]

SHOOTER
GAME

[prisma ivy]

SCHUTE

MAN

[zealous cedar]

Does Dusk runs on a Intel G41?

[mild ginkgo]

Yes

60fps

We tested on integrated gpus

[thorn trout]

all rbg/hsv values can be manually tweaked as well. You aren't just stuck with presets

it has like double the color options of serious sam

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah go WILD

PS, you can do that to your duskworld characters too

[fair mirage]

absolute madmen

[prisma ivy]

Im going to make the worst one possible, it's my goal

[mild ginkgo]

There's a ton of bad you can do

So I missed the whole presentation

Did you guys like what you saw?

[obtuse apex]

it was sexy

[fair mirage]

didn't watch because my internet doesn't like me

[mild ginkgo]

I'm sure there's a vod somewhere

[obtuse apex]

you wont get the twitch chat asking about rwby for an hour with the vod tho

[graceful wing]

you will

chat replay is a thing

[obtuse apex]

wtf

damn what will they think of next

[thorn trout]

yeah chat was mostly concerned with rwby :P

[graceful wing]

disgusting

[tawny briar]

should be concerned with dusk

[modern trellis]

rwby?

[tawny briar]

anime

[modern trellis]

ew

dusk>weeaboo

[graceful wing]

it's made by western people tho

so actually a weeb show

[modern trellis]

I think I've had to watch that while my friends were stoned.

[fair mirage]

fuckin nerds

[modern trellis]

It was pretty meh.

[crimson folio]

lmao these screenshots make dusk look like some apocalyptic survival game with 1996 graphics when really its a hardcore fps

these are the kind of enviroments i'd expect to see in DayZ

[prisma halo]

heh

[crimson folio]

but holy shit that last pic

beautiful

[mild ginkgo]

You mean to say stalker

But yes

[crimson folio]

yeah stalker

i guess

oopsy

[mild ginkgo]

It's a huge part of the inspiration of dusk

[modern trellis]

PA is pretty much this.

[mild ginkgo]

Stalker is like @thorn trout 'S favorite series

[crimson folio]

can we please speak the language of cheeki breeki

[thorn trout]

yeah the dirty secret of Dusk is that its taking as much atmosphere inspiration from STALKER as Quake :P

[crimson folio]

lmao

[mild ginkgo]

There's a stalker color preset

[crimson folio]

i saw jensen

so

complete orange

[modern trellis]

There is small mining town outside of Hazelton with hills of coal 10 stories high, and coal processing plants that look like that screenshot.

[mild ginkgo]

It's called Strelok

[crimson folio]

yeah boyyy

strelok

[mild ginkgo]

But yeah, do all the nerds here finally understand Soon™?

Lol

Looks, you'll get more info very very soon

Dave already spoiled a ton of shit

You know about pre-orders

Maybe there will be a visual aid at some point :^)

[crimson folio]

ELABORATE

[hexed roost]

!release

[hollow ivy]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/325454500406099970/the-heat-death-of-the-universe-html-m3fd87473.gif

[crimson folio]

you cant just tease pre-orders and make me wait a month

[mild ginkgo]

Wait did he mention duskworld during the show?

I missed it

[hexed roost]

yes

[mild ginkgo]

OK cool glad that's out of the bag then

[thorn trout]

yeah the info that's out now is:

Duskworld is a thing and will be revealed at Quakecon

Dusk Preorders will be a thing Soon(tm) and will give you ep1 instantly

[mild ginkgo]

And existing keyholders get upgraded to pre-order status

I think?

[thorn trout]

yes

[mild ginkgo]

The scarecrow lady is not a scarecrow

[thorn trout]

I mean he didn't say that, but that's what we're doing

[mild ginkgo]

I can't believe people are talking about her now

She was shown off at the last two pax events

South and east

Ohhh

The welder

He is new

Dave really ballsed up that level lol

[thorn trout]

and didn't even get to the awesome part :(

with epic climbing and jumpads

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah lmao

And the music

That part is so hype

yeah thats a question for Dave himself

hes the business dood

i doubt it was part of the original plan, but im sure demands will get heard if there is enough

[hexed roost]

four packs are usually frowned upon by valve

but again, that's something for dave to look into

[crimson folio]

i'd feel proud if i made gaben cringe

[frozen heart]

All these dusk teases got me like

[mild ginkgo]

be READY

SOON™

[autumn compass]

problably next week tbh

[modern trellis]

Don't jynx it.

[autumn compass]

doubt it, but would be cool.

[modern trellis]

I'd die if it was this weekend.

[toxic wadi]

don't die dude, you wouldnt be able to play the game

[modern trellis]

True. I'll have to refrain from doing so.

[mild ginkgo]

youll have a steady stream of things to look forward to for a while 👌

[hexed roost]

don't end up like this guy

he wanted dusk TOO badly

and look where it got him

[toxic wadi]

damn he looks really sad :(

i like that lighting

[mild ginkgo]

hes sad because hes DEAD

[radiant venture]

maybe he's just sleeping because he's been waiting for so long

[thorn trout]

^^^

[toxic wadi]

just realized the cobwebs in that screenshot are not tinted by the red lighting. is unity a bully?

[thorn trout]

particle material :P

[frozen heart]

Good god these screenshots

David you are a god

[mild ginkgo]

@hexed roost is the screenshot god

[frozen heart]

But he didn't make the game

[mild ginkgo]

true true

[frozen heart]

Seriously though

[mild ginkgo]

i hope you dudes feel the same about the music too

because my god

every time i hear it

[frozen heart]

[mild ginkgo]

i pee myself a little

[frozen heart]

My hype levels have increased ten fold

[mild ginkgo]

G O O D

[frozen heart]

THEY WERE ALREADY HIGH

[mild ginkgo]

i actually heard about a vinyl OST today

from that stream

which i didnt hear about before

and now i HAVE to have it

like, ;lakdsjf;lksjdf

the music is sooooo good

killing leathernecks to the beat 👌 💯

[zealous cedar]

At first I thought the screenshot posted up there was a Doom 64 mod

[frozen heart]

I think that means David did a good job

[quick crystal]

there's a rly good usage of color in thee screenshots

mooody

[atomic egret]

indeed

[serene needle]

duks is gon be gud

[thorn trout]

that's the hope!

[hexed roost]

dunno yet

~we'll see~

[toxic wadi]

64 player

[modern trellis]

Doom had 4 player co-op. That was nuts on nightmare difficulty. We got pretty far too. I'd honestly just be as happy with 2 player co-op. Local and online preferably, because I've had games only do one or the other, and it sucked.

[mild ginkgo]

Just to be clear Co-op is a post-launch feature

[halcyon tree]

i hope its 4 player coop and the amount of enemies scale up with the amount of players so you cant just steamroll through everything

[crimson folio]

lmao i was in bed and suddenly i was like

OH SHIT

THATS WHY DUSK IS SO HIGH ON UPCOMING IN THE STORE

the pre-order

[quiet rose]

No.

[crimson folio]

oh :(

[frozen heart]

wait can we pre-order dusk now?

[crimson folio]

SOON

[quiet rose]

Its that high up because the page says coming 2017

Pre-order SOON™

[crimson folio]

too true

[halcyon tree]

even though its dusk and im completly hyped for it i will never preorder games

[quiet rose]

You get ep 1

and endless

instantly for pre-ordering

so its not like you arent getting anything

[thin sphinx]

where is the RTX stream cant find it so far

[crimson folio]

yeah its disappeared from existane

pretty lame

WAIT HOLY FUCK THERES AN RTX LONDON

[thin sphinx]

is there anywhere else where its mirrored?

[quiet rose]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/157311894?t=43m52s

[thin sphinx]

thanks

[quiet rose]

43:58 if it doesnt work

[crimson folio]

you should probably pin that for the people that missed it

or not

[crimson folio]

i dont know if fear is an inspiration for the atmosphere in episode 2

but it totally should be

[atomic egret]

"we are gonna show the final boss of episode one"

close tab

[crimson folio]

lmao

[atomic egret]

i don't want me gud shiet spoiled mang

[crimson folio]

dw is good

the boss is 👌

lets just say it was in the trailer already

[atomic egret]

it's the robo dino horse isnt it

[crimson folio]

yup

[atomic egret]

you ruined it

[crimson folio]

its the giant demonic horse doggo

[atomic egret]

you goof

[crimson folio]

i'll be back

[acoustic oriole]

just watched RTX

that's an options menu to die for

[crimson folio]

ikr

[prisma halo]

What do you all think about the menu fonts?

[crimson folio]

they're alright

a bit cheesy

[prisma halo]

There was a lotta time spent tweaking those to perfection

[crimson folio]

they work for the diffculty sections etc.

but i think it needs to be simple for the options

think gzdoom

or zandronum

[prisma halo]

That's a fair point

[crimson folio]

which one was it

[prisma halo]

Zandronum and GZDoom are based on the same port

[crimson folio]

i know

[prisma halo]

their menus are practically identical

[crimson folio]

strange to have 2 versions

each with their own strengths

[prisma halo]

Separate teams work on them, it's kinda like uhh

How do I put it

[mild ginkgo]

the original menu fonts were cleaner

(and i still prefer them)

but its not like i dont like the current ones

[prisma halo]

You give two groups of people an identical house

and you tell them to improve upon it

Each group's gonna come up with something different

it's a shitty way of putting it but I'm tired and you get the gist

[crimson folio]

yeah

but i mean

[mild ginkgo]

anyways, @atomic egret good on you for not spoiling yourself

its a reallllllly cool part of the game

[prisma halo]

Yeah there's some serious spoilers in that stream

[crimson folio]

the fonts for dusk are 👌 but i'd like the option for change

i know dusk has loads of pointless shit like the loadouts

[mild ginkgo]

its an experience to play through it the first time

[crimson folio]

why not add more

[mild ginkgo]

no need to have dave ruin it for you

[atomic egret]

I have to agree with you scott

[mild ginkgo]

i was SO happy about it the first time i played it

[atomic egret]

I prefered the cleaner fonts without all the effects and stuff on them

[prisma halo]

this is interesting, with this plugin system I mentioned in #general-art I can make mini patches for Dusk

[mild ginkgo]

its not like its a big deal, but its been through like 40 iterations

[prisma halo]

so, say there's a major bug that only some people are experiencing when the next build is out

one of us can make a small patch that you literally just dump in a "plugins" folder

and see if it fixes it

[mild ginkgo]

👌

oh and the biggest spoiler in that stream

is the music

[prisma halo]

heh

[mild ginkgo]

you HAVE to expierience it in your own headphones

[prisma halo]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

not the shitty stream audio

[prisma halo]

the stream audio was fucking awful

[mild ginkgo]

^

i wish he just played like, e1m5 instead

it wouldve fit better

[crimson folio]

which episode or level has that song

[acoustic oriole]

I wanna experience it like I did DOOM 2016

closed room, full volume, goosebumps

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i would HIGHLY recommend not watching that stream

that boss fight is very much an "experience it yourself" thing

[acoustic oriole]

I kinda stopped after the endless gameplay actually, I kinda reached the point when I don't wanna watch anymore and just wanna play

[mild ginkgo]

good

youre smart

[acoustic oriole]

so I rather just be patient

[mild ginkgo]

glad to hear people like the options though

there are many

[crimson folio]

sooo fortyseven you didnt hear about the big p o

[acoustic oriole]

p o?

[crimson folio]

IM BEING CRYPTIC

[mild ginkgo]

he didnt even show off the swimming control option

[crimson folio]

im pretty sure dave didnt reveal it during endless

[mild ginkgo]

frodo ive played like 100 times, and i dont know what you mean by P O

@acoustic oriole he means preorder

if you preorder the game

you get instant access to episode 1 the day you preorder it

[crimson folio]

[prisma halo]

muh early builds

[mild ginkgo]

including endless mode as well

[acoustic oriole]

oh

well I already have the pre-alpha but I'm glad that it's gonna be accessible to more people who want it

[mild ginkgo]

if you already have the game, you will get the episode 1 build as soon as it goes live

so youll get it the day preorders go live

[atomic egret]

ok so

[acoustic oriole]

I was actually planning to buy the game anyway for a friend, cause I kinda got it for free

[atomic egret]

how much longer till preorders are available ;)

[acoustic oriole]

not "kinda", actually got it for free lol

[mild ginkgo]

@atomic egret you will have a steady stream of more info from here on out

its gonna come fast

[atomic egret]

ok cool

good good good good

[mild ginkgo]

dont be surprised if you learn new info about it every week

[acoustic oriole]

a friend of mine is really hyped up about the game, not as much as me, but he loves his oldschool shooters

[mild ginkgo]

theres a calendar of things to come :)

Soon™

[acoustic oriole]

exciting times 👌

[mild ginkgo]

what i found interesting

is that they didnt show the level end screen in the stream

its quite nice

yknow, doom/quake style

kills/time/secrets and some awards

[atomic egret]

the photo that we all thought was a render

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

get that Ninja award

(thats for beating a level without taking any damage)

[crimson folio]

i bet the end screen song is great

is it like doom 2 or more atmospheric

[mild ginkgo]

the whole soundtrack is like a 10/10 if you like NiN style metal

[crimson folio]

ok good

[atomic egret]

I wanna know the full chievo list

[mild ginkgo]

theres really cool ambient stuff too obv

[crimson folio]

i think i do

[mild ginkgo]

i want to know that too gilby lol

[crimson folio]

i like quite a few of the songs on the downward spiral so i think im safe

[atomic egret]

another game I wanna add to my 100% achievements list

[mild ginkgo]

its a reallly incredible soundtrack

[atomic egret]

for that sweet sweet gamer cred

[mild ginkgo]

ok gilby, just for you

[atomic egret]

gamer dudes

[mild ginkgo]

im gonna put like 50 multiplayer cheeves in

[atomic egret]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mild ginkgo]

glhf

[atomic egret]

NOW I'LL NEVER GET 100%

[mild ginkgo]

but actually no fuck that

never MP cheeves

[atomic egret]

oh thank god

I can't stand it when I get a game a few years after release and want to do all the achievements

only to find out I can't because of dead multiplayer or the like

[crimson folio]

and the servers are shut down

[atomic egret]

yes

[crimson folio]

and 80% of achievements require you to go to the multiplayer

or the games dead site

that redirects you to the shitty sequel

[atomic egret]

or the only people left playing are almost literal gods at the game

[mild ginkgo]

i think its important to remember

[crimson folio]

COUGH ARMY OF TWO COUGH

[mild ginkgo]

MP is not the focus of Dusk

its gonna be there STRONG

but its not the focus

[atomic egret]

it's a nice bonus that you can sink endless hours into

similar to endless mode

[crimson folio]

i can bet if its pulled off well people will flock to dusk instead of quake champions

[atomic egret]

dunno about that

because qc is f2p

[crimson folio]

eh

[thin sphinx]

i think bethesda has the dumbest marketing team for quake champions it is going to be like doom 2016 trailers making it seem super slow and wierd

[atomic egret]

gotta remember that will bring in a lot of kiddos and such with no money

[thin sphinx]

true

[crimson folio]

qc runs like shit and the weapons act like they do in quake 3/live except in a different engine

if that makes any sense

the lightningun should just cease to exist

thank god dusk doesnt have anything like that

[thin sphinx]

yeah they should fix the isues

[atomic egret]

no abilities in dusk either :-)

[thin sphinx]

the abilities in QC are ok some need to be balanced better but there is no fight agaisnt another champ and you win 99% of the time

[mild ginkgo]

tbh dusk SHOULD have an LG equivalent

if it wants to be a good MP game

[thin sphinx]

i like that most the passives are movement based so there can be Q1 tye character movement and then there is the Q4 crouch slide

[mild ginkgo]

the assault rifle is the closest thing

and may very well fill that slot

[thin sphinx]

can it blow people up as a suicide bomb in water?

[mild ginkgo]

no lmao

i mean the quake 3 LG

[thin sphinx]

PLS water map in dusk with lightning guns evrerywhere

[mild ginkgo]

basically, hitscan, 100% accurate, decent damage

[thin sphinx]

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

[mild ginkgo]

but low ammo cap

[thin sphinx]

aye

[mild ginkgo]

thats how LG works in quake 3

and its sort of necessary for MP

because everything else is either high damage long range, with a low fire rate

or a close range weapon

or a projectile/explosive

there is no midrange weapon

in dusk that is

[thin sphinx]

also how is dusks hiboxs deterined?

[mild ginkgo]

there are boxes

[thin sphinx]

is it box like Q3

[mild ginkgo]

and you hit them

yep, its boxes

[thin sphinx]

sweet

QC has hitbox issue due to the lowpoly char model they use to detect hits

[mild ginkgo]

it is VERY faithful to the style of quake 1

in that, its incredibly basic, but works how it should

boxes for hit

no headshots

[thin sphinx]

out of curoistiy what is there level edior going to be based on? is it hammer like or is it more radiant like?

[mild ginkgo]

ok so, right now, theres nothing super official, but there are options for you

1. you can use quake 1 mapping tools!

trenchbroom, radiant, etc

[thin sphinx]

YES!

jack?

[mild ginkgo]

ive never used jack

does it export bsp?

[thin sphinx]

it has quake 1 and HL1 mapping

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

so the plan is to fully support bsp

[thin sphinx]

yes

[mild ginkgo]

but i also have some experimental tools available if you would like to submit a map blockout early

[thin sphinx]

would there be plans for hammer level editor support?

[mild ginkgo]

probably

[thin sphinx]

mostly for the displacements hammer does those amazingly

[mild ginkgo]

hammer can do bsp right?

[thin sphinx]

yep

[mild ginkgo]

so idk, we'll see

[thin sphinx]

quake 1 based engine source and goldsource

[mild ginkgo]

q1bsp, and q3 bsp are the targets

[thin sphinx]

ah

[mild ginkgo]

but we'll see how it goes

there is a conversion process you can use from hammer

especially if you want to do an early blockout to submit

we are accepting user generated content potentially at this point

if you make a really good map

but basically it goes like this

if you can export your level geometry to a 3d format

obj, fbx, etc

i have some basic tools that will let you place down items and player spawns in unity (which is free), and we can test your blockout

and i know there is a workflow to go from hammer bsp > obj

[thin sphinx]

ooh sounds nice

[mild ginkgo]

but also in the future, we will move away from that

the plan is to hopefully do an asset pack for mappers

which will be fully supported by trenchbroom etc

[thin sphinx]

that would be nice

[mild ginkgo]

there are some talks about doing an in game, or in unity level editor, but that is far from reality yet

also there are free versions of Probuilder, and sabrecsg if you want to work directly in unity

but the idea is we want to support the mapping tools you already know and love

so that you can do your best work

[thin sphinx]

nice thing si jack supports quake 1-3 so that is good to know

this makes me exicted

[mild ginkgo]

if you are serious about trying to make a dusk map, let me know, you can get started now, and who knows, your map could make it in game :P

[thin sphinx]

perhaps

i only have 1 publicly released map so far

[mild ginkgo]

i have tips for map designers to keep in mind when making maps for dusk

[thin sphinx]

would be good to know

[mild ginkgo]

specifically, there are very unique mechanics to duskworld!

things like the slide mechanic

which allows you to make tight vents or small holes in walls to slide through and escape enemies

or teleporters, which carry projectiles

boost pads, which also boost projectiles

crossbows that shoot through walls

so making markings on a wall to tell players "fire here"

[thin sphinx]

hehe the teleporter is something i made small mod for doom

[mild ginkgo]

there are a lot of little unique things that you can do with dusk

it doesnt work quite how you would expect actually

[thin sphinx]

these are interesting little mechincs

[mild ginkgo]

projectiles keep their momentum appropriately

so if you shoot into a portal, it will keep the same global direction coming out of the next tele

[thin sphinx]

does the projectile come out the same way the player do

ok cool

[mild ginkgo]

top down view

[thin sphinx]

ok i see

[mild ginkgo]

most games would do this

[thin sphinx]

yeah due to the telemarker tellig the projectiles which way to go

[mild ginkgo]

its just something to keep in mind while designing maps

this is true for players entering as well

[thin sphinx]

oh?

[mild ginkgo]

they will face the global direction they were facing while entering

[thin sphinx]

so it is as image 1

[mild ginkgo]

image 1

[thin sphinx]

OK that is cool

[mild ginkgo]

its unique for sure

frustrating if you want the player to look a certain direction

[thin sphinx]

i might just block out WGH map 1 to get the joiuces flowing

perhaps a flag telling it to force a orentation

[mild ginkgo]

you could do this as well

boost pads effect projectiles!

[thin sphinx]

true

[mild ginkgo]

so rockets can be shot off at 45 degree angles

[thin sphinx]

might see about doing a surface tension map then

i do mst my maps for HL

[mild ginkgo]

what is surface tension?

[thin sphinx]

HL1 surface tension

i will wait to play dusk first before i commit to mapping anything

[mild ginkgo]

probably smart!

you might not like the game lol

i HOPE thats not the case

[thin sphinx]

looks up my alley

[mild ginkgo]

but you never know

[thin sphinx]

has quake 1 influence and advaned movement

[mild ginkgo]

oh i remember this map

the movement is simplified, but its got room for some skill

it feels great

and thats the important part

i could jump around in dusk for HOURS doing nothing but jumping

i shouldnt say could

i should say HAVE

[thin sphinx]

is there airstrafing like quake 1?

or is the mvement more quake 3

[mild ginkgo]

id say its closer to q1 than q3

you have HUGE air control

[thin sphinx]

oh good should feel rel familr then

real

[mild ginkgo]

when you have broken a certain speed, you have near 100% air control

[thin sphinx]

my laptop keyboard randomly wont type keys

ok that is cool

[mild ginkgo]

the air control gets a little zany, but i freaking love it

[thin sphinx]

hmm well i loved Q1 style movement

probaly why i played on certain TF2 servers waaay more than thers

speaking of TF2 i wonder how much 200% ar control is

that is a rebalance for the mantreads if you didnt know

now ill definatly see if i cant get to quakecon this year

can not cant

[mild ginkgo]

Well, I believe Dave announced that quakecon will be the duskworld reveal

[thin sphinx]

yeah i heard that

[mild ginkgo]

So it'd be a good time to go

[thin sphinx]

there will also probaly be some big old quake champions update too

[atomic egret]

I was wondering whether he had actually asked you and talked to you about that

or if he was just like

"yeah it'll be on at quakecon" without telling you

[mild ginkgo]

He has

But he didn't tell anyone he was announcing it yesterday, that's for sure

[thin sphinx]

does he say "ITS PART OF THE SUPRISE" to the mods/devs?

[mild ginkgo]

Lol

[thin sphinx]

that is in response to "DAVE WHY DID YOU X"

[jade root]

Dave kinda just does whatever he wants

He really wasn't supposed to the boss, but he did anyway

[thin sphinx]

there is a reaction meme for that smewhere

question will there be support for custom user made player models?

like quake 2 or HLDM'

if so i could imagine there being a 90's games player model pack with all the skins

[mild ginkgo]

It's been talked about

[thin sphinx]

ok good to knoww

[atomic egret]

when dave @s everyone

[slate edge]

I had an idea, make a button to make the sound effects and music 1990s levels of compressed.

[crimson folio]

YES

how about a midi mode too

if you got bobby prince for ROTT 2013

then cmon

[slate edge]

That would mean Andrew would likely have to redo the entire score and quake 1 had CD music :P

[crimson folio]

ehh get somebody else

i'll get the whip

[random yew]

How's Dusk doing?

I haven't been there for ages

[crimson folio]

COOL AND GOOD

you've missed out on big stuff

[random yew]

Oh really

What kind

[crimson folio]

um

well episode 2 is in development

lots of new screenshots

[random yew]

That's good to hear

[autumn compass]

you can pre order the game, dont know when tho

[crimson folio]

aparently SOON

less than 2 weeks

maybe

[random yew]

Well I have the beta so that's not a big deal for me

[autumn compass]

ep1 might come out very soon

will problably come out when you can preorder dusk

[random yew]

Fascinating

[autumn compass]

else theres not much

[random yew]

No new weapon/monsters reveal?

[autumn compass]

no new weps

[crimson folio]

new monsters tho

[autumn compass]

what we have is pretty much set in stone

[crimson folio]

some kind of projectile scarecrow

and a giant soldier

[random yew]

That must be very cool

[crimson folio]

think the heavy trooper from quake 1

[random yew]

The Enforcer like enemy?

[crimson folio]

ye

[random yew]

Ohoho

[mild ginkgo]

It's like neither of those things

He's a welder

[crimson folio]

question mark

[mild ginkgo]

And the other thing is not a scarecrow

[crimson folio]

double question mark

its a sorcerer thing that looks like a scarecrow

[mild ginkgo]

Do you see straw? ¿???

[crimson folio]

I tHInK

[mild ginkgo]

No is the answer

[jade root]

No one cares what you think

[crimson folio]

:(

[jade root]

Cause you're objectively WRONG

[prisma ivy]

What is it than?

[crimson folio]

a thing

Thing™

[mild ginkgo]

It's not a scarecrow

Holy bejesus

[crimson folio]

Don't we have a screen of it? Yes?

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah we have video of it

It's not.

Do you see straw?

No.

It's not a scarecrow.

[crimson folio]

yeah actually that does look rather like a skellytol

[autumn compass]

thats a skelly

when was skelly psting allowed in dusk?

^^

[thorn trout]

she's not supposed to be a scarecrow :P

[mild ginkgo]

HAH

When you see her in motion up close

She's very not scarecrow

[thorn trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mild ginkgo]

This is a b8

^

[thorn trout]

Dusk isn't out in the world yet :)

[mild ginkgo]

Oh man

Owned

Know how you end this

Include a monster compendium like serious sam

Ez

Man it's great that you think that, but it's pretty far off base

Especially considering PA is above the Mason dixon

Maybe in the CE artbook

You can explain the deep lore

[thorn trout]

I loved netrisca in TFE and TSE

[mild ginkgo]

Of every enemy

[thorn trout]

really sad she was basically turned into nothing in BFE

[crimson folio]

it was cool in bfe but i prefered the high detail stuff in TFE and TSE

[mild ginkgo]

Bfe was tone deaf

[thorn trout]

^^^^^

[crimson folio]

we need a netricsa in dusk lol

another silly feature

[random yew]

dusktrisca

[crimson folio]

literally call it S.A.T.A.N.

[thorn trout]

I actually minded the tone shift more than the gameplay issues. TFE and TSE had this wonderful lighthearted goofy tone, and BFE just... wasn't that

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah it's my least favorite part of bfe

[crystal vessel]

Everyone around Sam was trying to be Serious but he wasn't having it

[graceful wing]

sam has lore?

[mild ginkgo]

Like, trying to have some weird love interest military chick??? What?

I get that it was jokes

But boy did that not fit well

[thorn trout]

even Sam was different. He was his own thing in TFE/TSE, in BFE he was basically Duke Nukem

[autumn compass]

nope

[warped saffron]

I'm ready to spend my money now.

[hexed roost]

I can't remember if I posted Welder pics in here last night

weldo

[random yew]

Hottie

[slate edge]

I need this in my life

[crimson folio]

he looks thicc

[zealous cedar]

That screenshot reminds me of this

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/wolfenstein/images/1/14/Bj_return_to_castle_wolfenstein.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130726062623

[crimson folio]

oh my god you're right

[urban sparrow]

https://twitter.com/AndrewHulshult/status/883781823515553792

Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult)

More @DUSKdev soundtrack stuff https://t.co/EsbUEJak1a

▶ Play video

Twitter

[rose snow]

WAIT SO

DO WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL DUSKGUY

[hexed roost]

no

that's an enemy

the welder

he made an appereance at RTX

[quiet rose]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[obtuse apex]

I hacked the server and ripped the dusk guy model

[crimson folio]

lol

[hexed roost]

correct

please stop hacking the git and FTP

[obtuse apex]

sorry but the people deserve to see

[random yew]

Dusk guy is Quake 3 Sarge but low-res

[crystal vessel]

I will continue to say that the Dusk player character is floating guns

[crimson folio]

^

That makes me think about TS1 & 2

floating guns

[crystal vessel]

I ALWAYS think about Timesplitters when I see floating guns

You don't have hands in first person in TS1 and 2

But that is a topic for #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

I was just saying that it was like that. didn't mean to start a new conversation

[crystal vessel]

All good my dude

[modern trellis]

The welder reminds me of The Plague from Hobo With a Shotgun.

[austere egret]

I need to see that movie

I saw the trailer, I fuckin love it

[crimson folio]

you havent seen hobo with a shotgun?

do yourself a favour man

[crimson folio]

how was movie night

[crystal vessel]

👍

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

i mean

there were dusk keys

[fair jolt]

I just like how the guns are centred on the screen. It's just more visually satisfying somehow

[crimson folio]

actually it'd be wonderful to have another silly feature

have an x y and z axis for weapon positions

so you could have it to the right, clipping into your face

etc.

[prisma halo]

heh, some quake ports have that

[crimson folio]

name em i want to try it

i know one of the big halo ce mods had it

[prisma halo]

I think ezQuake is one of them

[mild ginkgo]

you dont want that in dusk

the reload animations are very much one perspective

it would destroy the illusion

[crimson folio]

true

[mild ginkgo]

the crossbow especially

[hollow flame]

is there actually reloading or just the animations like in the demo?

[graceful wing]

no reloading

[crimson folio]

it just moves out of view and you see some shells or whatever but theres no hands

you're a telepath

[jade root]

Technically there is reloading. You hear duskguy reload his guns on the loading screens

[crimson folio]

really?

fuck thats cool

[hollow flame]

infanate bullets

[crimson folio]

how about you hear him maintaining his guns

like idk

squeaking

he has wd-40 or something

[hollow flame]

lol

[jade root]

The reloading sound is good enough

There's multiple iterations of it too

So one loading screen you hear a shotgun being loaded, on the next you hear a rifle being loaded

[crimson folio]

is it like a notification

to tell you the game has loaded?

[jade root]

In a way?

It notifies you when the level loads via text

The reloading sound is just there cause it's fucking badass

[crimson folio]

lmao

[proven condor]

is ep2 done?

[graceful wing]

it's currently in development

along with 3

[proven condor]

ok thx for reply

[torpid beacon]

The shotguns reload

Automatically in between cooldown

[austere egret]

Weapons don't reload at all

It works on old FPS logic

You can fire your weapons until they run out

[torpid beacon]

True. But shotguns reload visually

[hallow sorrel]

Just tried running Dusk in WINE, runs great and is a loooooooot of fun. If a native Linux export is possible atm without changes to the code, you could upload it to a beta branch and I (and possibly others) could test it, if you want early feedback. So you can get an estimate on how much work there is for a native release.

[graceful wing]

linux is currently being discussed but i don't have any details to give out at this time

[hallow sorrel]

yeah I know: that's why I thought, if exporting for Linux is possible without (or at least without too many) changes, a version could be uploaded, so you can gather feedback on, how much time it would cost and if it is worth it.

Not begging for it just a suggestion

[graceful wing]

exporting isn't an issue. there's just some opengl quirks that need to be sorted

[hallow sorrel]

okay got it, so if they are sorted and testers are required, my offer stands.

[graceful wing]

for the time being all i can say is to just stick around here and wait. i'd love to see the game get a dedicated linux version aswell so gotta hope for the best 👍

[hallow sorrel]

I will, it's great fun 😃 good luck!

[modern trellis]

I can't wait to mod single player and replace models with my own lowpoly stuff. The pistols are getting a magnum or m1911 makeover, and the the grenade launcher has to be a China Lake pump.

Can you mod the demo? I have never messed with a Unity title before, but I'm pretty sure you can't mod them.

Actually, I'd love to mod in an Automag 3. It's an m1911 designed pistol that shoots 30 carbine ammo. It's a hand cannon.

[frozen heart]

that uhhh

looks weird

how far does the damn slide travel on that thing?

[thorn trout]

ooh I would like to play that :)

1911s are awesome

[modern trellis]

My uncle has one. I've got to shoot it a few times.

[thorn trout]

I think @prisma halo had some limited modding working for the demo. He's the one to ask

[modern trellis]

Nothing screams 90s overkill like a handgun that shoots a rifle cartridge.

[thorn trout]

indeed

[modern trellis]

Here is his. If I ever make an fps, you bet your sweet ass it will be in it.

[crimson folio]

holy shit dude.

[frozen heart]

it looks so weird

it just looks like a 1911 at first but then you notice just how disproportioned everything is

i need to see if ian has a vidoe on one of these

[fiery narwhal]

add one of these lol http://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/grenade/gl25/qlz87-1.jpg

[jade root]

Gun talk can go to #242365589887254528

[crimson folio]

i fucking love that thing

[fiery narwhal]

oh my b

[crimson folio]

"it just looks like a 1911 at first" your gun sense must be off i can only tell its a 1911 after examining its details deliberately

[thorn trout]

Forgotten Weapons is so good

[mild ginkgo]

you can definitely mod the demo

[slate edge]

Zombie still working on that?

[modern trellis]

@mild ginkgo Any tips on how to mod the weapons on the demo? I have no idea what files to dig into. Is it possible to just give out the Unity build? I'm sure their are legal issues and such, it's cool if it's not possible. I could just easily mod and replace a gun if I had the project. Well technically that's the source code I suppose.

[mild ginkgo]

yeah you certainly wont be getting the source, however, you can hook into unity fairly easily, and mod from there

@prisma halo is developing mod tools for Dusk, called Dawn, which will simplify this process massively

however, he has tools that work well for any unity game

[modern trellis]

Yeah no problem, I totally understand haha. I'll just have to wait for the toolkit then.

[mild ginkgo]

well, you can use his smaller tool

hold on, we can take this to #general-art

[crimson folio]

will we see dopefish in dusk

[hexed roost]

what's that ???

that fish with the weird teeth ???

[crimson folio]

yup

the one you see on all the food and drink props in doom 2016

etc.

it was a stupid drawing by tom hall

it ended up in commander keen

http://www.dopefish.com/fishinfo.html

now its in everything lol

the guy who made this website is 'dissapointed' by dopefish in quake 3 lol

[mild ginkgo]

thats funny

[crimson folio]

DOPEFISH IS IN DAIKATANA LMAO

[hexed roost]

we only use the freshest of mapping memes here

like Hurg

[flat isle]

AAA Daikatana remake when

[modern trellis]

So I just found out you can pick up saw blades and throw them at motherfuckers. That is sweet.

[crimson folio]

You can also throw crates at enemies and it will kill them

[quiet rose]

Sometimes they dont and they shatter on impact!

[hexed roost]

or sometimes you end up shattering the entire map

[quiet rose]

That too.

[hexed roost]

GOOD SERVICE

[quiet rose]

NICE

[jade root]

maybe discord servers will finally burn down and we'll be all set free

[hollow flame]

dont hold your breath jab

[crimson folio]

when will dave come back to interceptor/SLIPGATE and make a daikatana remake and ROTT 2

[thorn trout]

I've told him several times that I unironically want to do a Daikatana reboot

[crimson folio]

that'd be dank

[graceful wing]

the chances of dave and slipgate working together again are slim to none. what's more likely to happen is dave'll go after the IP's themselves and try to secure them for new blood

[crimson folio]

how come?

[graceful wing]

because new blood is his thing now

[crimson folio]

his thang

[modern trellis]

What did he work on before doing Dusk with New Blood?

[crimson folio]

rise of the triad, gunnars marketing

a cameo in wasteland 2

[thorn trout]

general memeing

[slate edge]

Compressed audio option pls

[quiet rose]

no.

all audio will be uncompressed in the APE format

[slate edge]

Never heard of APE before

[thorn trout]

Andrew and I have discussed the possibility of having the option to filter the soundtrack to sound more 90s but its not a priority feature atm

[crimson folio]

in what way?

[graceful wing]

lower sound channels and some other stuff. i don't see is as something i'd ever want to enable

why would i want to lower the quality of andrew's tunes?

[slate edge]

I mean, we have clown vomit, so what more can we possibly ask for?

[crimson folio]

true

[thorn trout]

if it were simple to do I'd just throw the option in for fun but there would be work involved in gettinbg it working

[crimson folio]

y'all mind if i PIXELATION

[thorn trout]

atm all efforts are focused on important stuff like levels and multiplayer

[slate edge]

Im looking forward to ep1

[jade root]

You guys are gonna love it

[crimson folio]

I KNOW

[graceful wing]

everyone but jab will love dusk

[jade root]

Hey

@mild ginkgo hates duks too

[graceful wing]

oh yea true

he won't play anything that doesn't have dota in it's title

[jade root]

Though I can't blame him

[slate edge]

Will Dusk have a giant blender to test if Duskguy blends?

[crimson folio]

OLDEST MEME

[jade root]

can't reveal that yet

[crimson folio]

im really curious as to what duskguy looks like

[jade root]

There's prolly gonna be no duskguy model

[graceful wing]

he looks like a floating gun

[fair jolt]

Dunno what the budgets like but could reach out to Romero to design a level or two. Dunno if he's still working on his own FPS

[jade root]

Pretty sure David confirmed that

[crimson folio]

hes made doom levels in his spare time

and his fps is probably in concept

idk

[jade root]

I doubt it

[crimson folio]

actually what happened to that fps on kickstarter than romero was behind

[jade root]

Dusk is Davids baby

[crimson folio]

what happened to it

what was it called

[quiet rose]

dunno but romero isnt dusk

[crimson folio]

YES I REMEMBER

BLACKROOM

[quiet rose]

Died a year ago

[crimson folio]

rip

:((

they're going to re-open it with a playable demo

whatever

if that fails then dusk will be in the limelight even more

[thorn trout]

I hop Blackroom isn't dead

[crimson folio]

its not

the kickstarters on hold while romero and carmack and their team make a playable demo to convince people its not all lies

not john

[thorn trout]

supposedly yeah

[crimson folio]

adrian*

[thorn trout]

it could also just disappear forever

[crimson folio]

my other message didnt pass

i mixed them up

i mean why would you just put the game on hold, and then john sets up a new company in galway

actually just found out nightwork IS romero games

[thorn trout]

I dunno, Romero creates new companies all the time iirc, and any number of things could happen while the demo is being worked on that along with the lackluster Kickstarter performance might convince them to abandon the project

Don't get me wrong I definitely hope that doesn't happen.

[crimson folio]

its why the demo is in development

to convince people its worth backing

[thorn trout]

yeah I know

[crimson folio]

its really sweet gunman taco truck was a family project

[thorn trout]

yeah

[untold elm]

For those who are interested I touched up some details on Dusks Chainsaw Maniac skin for Minecraft.

http://puu.sh/wGiNI/b3f2d670d0.png

[jade root]

Wrong channel

Oh

[crimson folio]

lmao

[jade root]

Nvm

[crimson folio]

LMAOOO

thats good

[jade root]

Read that as Dukes Chainsaw

[crimson folio]

duks*

[jade root]

Not dusks chainsaw

My b

[crimson folio]

he looks so angry in that skin

wuss poppin CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

[jade root]

It's filtered

[thorn trout]

@untold elm that looks super awesome

I think I'll start up Minecraft again just to change my skin to him :)

link?

[jade root]

Davids gonna do a 200 part let's play of minecraft

[thorn trout]

yup

Dusk canceled

gonna spend my life playing Minecraft

gotta make sure I get a crappy headset mic too

so vids are 👌

[jade root]

You are gonna craft dusk in minecraft

[untold elm]

Oh let me grab it real quick.