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hahaha yes
how about the pirated version is dusk without the secrets and in FullHD 4K
4k texture pack
Include forced quick time events in the pirated version
resident evil 4 ass cutscene QTEs
Dusk should have free DLC and employ the use of in game currency, but make the player have to grind for it. Then introduce "Dusk Cards", so players can spend real money on that hard to obtain in game currency. Then you can ban modders and claim that they are cheating and ruining the gaming experience for other players, when in reality they are just circumventing your greedy card scheme...
echs dee topical humor
If you couldn't tell, It's a slight towards Take-Two.
Wait so they were circumventing the shark cards
Because according to mods OpenIV couldn't touch the money
They want people to play online and single player to die.
nope, take2 just wanted to destroy SP modding so more people would play online
I want .............. Dusk! And i want it naowwww
Same
!release
You know. In 2050 dusk will seem just as old as quake. And we wont look at dusk as a game to relive quake and the likes, but as a game that is amongst them. As equal. The developers built a time machine and travelled to a parallel universe to exchange our quake with their Dusk. Just think about it, right now in a parallel universe, theyre just discovering quake the same way we are about dusk :o
I think I can, I transcended my mortal shell years ago
I want Dusk on Switch now too. To relive those N64 4 player split screen golden years. I'm also pumped for co-op.
wow I forgot how jank the old end level screen was
55 seconds
Wait dusk is gonna have coop?!
post release yeah
Like post release in the same sense that ep2 and so on will be post release?
Or am I mixing that up with the beta getting ep1 and not the others
so
the way things will be is
e1 will get out to all the keyholders
then full release will include ep2&3
then post launch content
Oh okay, cool
oh so there's gonna be a e1 release to all the keyholders?
yep
oh nice
Hell yeah
well guessing multiplayer wouldnt be avaliable in the e1 release
understood
thats all i can say
alright
Duskworld wooowooosooo
i can also say its fun
najs
so how did you become a qa jab
ok
cause i still dont know
No
Just watch the "Too many cooks" Adult Swim video. Nuff said.
ik
#bnnuy-and-the-jits my boys
You beat me to my back seat modding. Damn.
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I want to play it so bad
same
same
TERM
same
MARVELLER
I've had a key for about 2 months now im waitinhg for ep1
S'a good game, I liked the demo.
Paramilitary dudes seemed out of place and sound design was kind of wimpy, but the gameplay was really cool and it was fun to roam around.
i've played it about 30 times already, this reminded me that i need to go back to it BYE
GL
A challenge that was popular a bit ago was doing a jump, flipping upside down, and going through the entire level upside down.
i think ive done enough editing today so screw it
yeah but the military dudes are very funny to kill
there's always gotta be some easy to kill enemies
theyre like possesed or some shit
yeah something like that
i dont think theyre straight up regular hu-mans like in half life
but I think they replaced them with possessed cows or something in the country levels
the only ONLY thing I found not good enough in the demo is the mouse sensivity
max is still not sensitive enough for me, but I guess I'll get used to it
Nah. I love the military guys in the demo level. It adds to the conspiracy.
i hope theres a hollow earth illuminati conspiracy level
where the boss is an impostor reptilian president
High sensitivity 
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I am so pumped for boss battles. That demo has such a classic boss fight.
Giant cultists? Doubling the size of an enemy is such a classic boss trope. I love it.
Twisted Metal used to have giant sized cars as bosses. It was great.
Can't talk about specifics, but if you like the Duke Brothers, you're gonna love the other bosses
I killed those Dukes with soap
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10/10 RECOMMEND YES
It's an okay game I guess

Dave has been pretty quiet the past few days...too quiet...
off getting high aparently
he's in Las Vegas doing ecstacy
yea he'll be back next week
that was actually dave at the end of the Wolf:TNC trailer
Dave is doing cocaine out a strippers asshole, in what he calls "a creative process"
Its how Dusk was designed
you can thank Dave Oshry and his cocaine fuelled adventures in vegas for dusk's veichle sections and unskippable cutscenes
you forgot the forced walking sections
Dusk needs a car combat spin-off
It should also have stealth missions because everybody loves those
I just want to be able to piss on everything like in postal 2
I love pissing on the toilet seat in postal 2
What happens in postal 2 stays in postal 2 IMO
Dusk needs a bass fishing mini game.
^
uh guys?
(obviously glitch run but)
you know whats the deal here???
get this, i got this time BEFORE getting through the ladder
i would have broken the WR if ive done it a LITTLE bit better
How many friends do you have irl Niko
Nope
Thats an engine level bug with collision, which we are waiting on Unity to patch
heh... try workin with the torque engine on a wii game.... /kills self
Like as word.
does it lose its luster after you lose max health
You got hit then, max health gives you the magical zelda-esque charge
yea
It's not "max health", it's "full health"
max health is 200
full is 100
the sword can be charged when you have 100
just to clear up any possible confusion there
nerd
Hello there fellow Death Grips fan @sullen carbon
Hello, are you excited for dusk
Yup
:)
I wouldn't be here if I wasn't ๐
Do you think there will be death grips in dusk
good one
thx
cant really comment on its devolpment
but theres been some really good work recently
@jolly mirage
@thorn trout is the person you'll want to ask since he's the dude making the game
@jade root ok I ask because its literally going to be summer tommorow and its still not out but honistly I would rather wait so all touches can be applied ^__^
we never gave a specific timeframe
it takes a while to create a true masterpiece
idk it just said 2017
this is accurate
ok I see
who summons me?
keep your eyes and ears open in the next few weeks though, there might be some new information soon :)
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yay ^__^
also gunsmith here was just a bit curious about how dusk dev's coming along
@thorn trout we summoned you here to bully you lol, gimme your lunch money
that too
I bring my belt you can whip him with it ^__^
I don't have any lunch money :(
keep the bdsm rp to a minimum thx guys
@jade root got it abuse like daddy X__X
stop
yep
yay ^__^
Remember the meme where you just said 2017 so people were literally asking for dusk on Jan.1.2017
?
yea it happens pretty much constantly
Whenever I talk to other devs I am reminded that I'm basically the gamedev equivalent of a kindergarthener chugging espresso
wow shilling
yup
the mind of david is an interesting one
:3
im just gonna put a hole here for players to get out of bounds
sounds pretty fucking rad
Wat
check dat dusk twit ya twit
true story, in the early days of development before NB I considered running all the in-game text through a translator and back again to try and get it to sound authentically janky. Originally part of the vision for Dusk was that it was an eastern european retro FPS. That element eventually was phased out of the meta design (probably a good thing :P)
you know
you could still make an option for that
hardly anyone would use it outside of the novelty but it could still be pretty funny.
not entirely sure if its worth the dev time though
text obsfuscator
eurojank mode: changes text to be broken as fuck english and also adds a few critical game breaking bugs in places. find em all and win a prize.
hahahahaha don't tempt me :)
or you can just port dusk to xray
and just have a switch that goes between unity and xray
add reciever gunplay
lol eurojank
random crash simulation mode: 1/90000 chance game will just force quit on any given frame
do it
will dusk have a flamethrower ?
nope
o man o well any way I'm glad it's got shotguns then
lol
It will have brown bricks
oh good I love building sandcastles
Oh yes Dusk will have a 2.99 DLC for a Goat Simulator themed level and Goat Simulatore will have a 2.99 DLC for a Dusk themed map it will be grand
wrong
@sullen carbon and after that the Dusk team will collab with every major studio they can grasp and go through a DLC hell for 2 years and after that they take al of the DLC and make it free but the game will go from being priced 12.99 to 44.99 unless you bought DLC during the time than you get discount and all future content is free
oh and 2 million copies of Dusk get givin away dor free
for
totally
poopy toothbrush
chupper chotgun
old lever action
dual weilding would be hell
thats the hardest difficulty
You would have akimbo shotguns but the kick makes you take 60% damage
and it sends you a full 360 degrees
jah
flipping would send you flying into the air
for the crossbow you have to wait like an entire minute like the bfg in the weapon pack
nah make it like the Heavy Crossbow from Payday2 but you keep failing to put the rope on
and just make the pistol a flat out squrt gun
exept you keep failling to put the rope on
but you pull the little crank
and the crank jams like the Broke Dick Piece of Shit Drill sometimes
oh the sword
fucking
hit and enemy few times
breaks
tapes it back on
i'm gonna assume theres an assault rifle weapon
cause of the soldier dudes
you shoot one shot then begin cleaning it
your puny stick arms can't handle the pull of the shots so you fall over
yeah
and lose health
handguns, 1887 single shotguns that can be duel weilded, double barrel, assualt rifle, hunting rifle, mortar, riveter, crossbow
and for the holiday you throw pumkins and hit emeies with christmas trees
Pistol, Dual Pistol, Lever-Action Shotgun, Dual Lever-Action Shotguns, Super Shotgun, Assault Rifle, Hunting Rifle, Mort
Chaingun, nailgun, monkeygun
fuckin
thats all i can remember off the top of me head
k
oh yeah and the sword
Don't forget the axe
The axe is dull
but breaks your arms
you just ruined the imagination
mortart
mortar
its like
incredibly short range
what
wat
like artilery
it's like a grenade launcher
its just a grenade launcher called a mortar
oh ok
this isnt WW2
I mean the leather heads look like the KKK
the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Is there a Dusk FAQ beyond the keyfaq?
DUSK FAQ
- How much will it cost? Likely ~$20.
- Will it have multiplayer/co-op? Yes, VS mode will be available at release with co-op planned later on.
- Mod support? TBA
- p2p or dedicated server? TBA.
- Console release? Not planned at this time.
- When will it come out? When its done.
thats it
I meant more gameplay related
but nothing you dont already know
yeah just make the grenade go one inch and plops out]
Thanks Hank.
like you shake it out of the nade launcher
best answer we're going to get for a bit is soon
i'll be sure to ping you when things happen though
No I just have actual questions but I feel like somebody in the past ~6 months has asked these same questions a hundred times.
if you dont get pinged by someone else about it
yeah
that unfortunately the place we're at right now.
No worries.
also riveter?
rocket launcher
ah
its called the riveter in game with rivets being rockets
the rocket launcher shoots out a little thing but it travels slow
and when it hits a wall it goes
thud
and then falls to the ground
there
i don't know what dusk footage you've watched but the rocket launcher doesn't work like that lol
its more like an almost melting chunk of metal that explodes when it hits something at high velocity
its dope
you know the extreme weapon pack mod for doom
bassicly i'm thinking about the weapons if there was an extreme weapon pack mod for dusk
so le wakcy randum xdd kind of weapon pack
I mean if thats what you think about the extreme weapon pack mod yea
and it replaces the normal weapons doesn't add
isnt the entire gimmick of those things to randomly buff and nerf weapons in really stupid ways?
yeah i dont understand how those things have anyone that likes them. i actually enjoy playing videogames and not turning them into memes
Do any of the guns in Dusk share ammo types, like in Quake?
not outside of shotguns
theres nothing like the mortar and riveter sharing ammo pools
Fair enough, cheers.
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nope
And a hammer too
If theres an enemy like the vore from quake
physics objects do not equal weapons
and a pitchfork
I will fucking stab a bitch
i'll take vores over shamblers
Shamblers ez pz
I wonder if there is any other wheather effects then just rain ?
fuckers are headcrabs who hit the gym
oh yeah
Acid sunshine
will you guys do a introduction thing like in quake
You mean like an insane middle school goth paragraph at the end of each episode? Would be welcome in Dusk as well ๐
nuclear winter lol
are thye going to update weapon model and enemy models when the game comes out?
Buttface Jones your name isn't Nate is it
like
You look like my bff's brother
Nope, not Nate.
in quake when you start the level to a new episode
@crimson folio those are totally in
Just checking
@trim jetty no thats not how dusk works
ah
its closer to doom
ok
so no introduction area
But how will we access Nightmare Dusk if there's no hub level? ๐
That's a pretty easy secret to find but ok
The hardest difficulty is one hit and dead
its not a secret
It's not a secret tho
obviously the hardest difficulty is a secret you are just trying to trick me
Luckily it's not quake 2, where you have to use a console command lol
but will it be like quake where it adds more enemies and enemy spawns
no, it tunes enemy difficulty, instead of placements
just more damadge
damage and behavior
What
ok
Bogus
sounds intresting
I like lots of enemies
"behavior" is interesting
I like it
its not as complex as it sounds
^
behavior is things like, projectile speeds
Faster attack rates, sped up projectiles
My favorite thing about dusk is the lack of hitscan
fast off brand kkk
yep, no hitscan enemies
Not a single hitscan enemy in the game
I forgot
You can go through the game without getting hit once
what was hitscan again
in fact, you have to on DUSKMARE
Where a dude shoots you and there's no projectile. You just take damage
every attack can be dodged
damn that gets me pumped
I think we're all certain that the game will have a dope soundtrack
Ayyy ๐ฏ
i was certain of that the moment i found out andrew was making it
This track has a decent Doom 3 theme vibe, one of the best themes imo. http://youtube.com/watch?v=SzI7DLR0DPU
sick dusk talk bro
Oops that's not general
it fits DUSK, hes talking about how the tid bit of a Dusk song has a doom 3 vibe
Nah he's talking about a post of mine from earlier
That has since been deleted because it was not dusk related in any way shape or form
Are the flips in Dusk controlled by the physics of the game, or are they automated (as in, press X to flip)?
you have to move the mouse vertically and manually flip
nice
I greatly prefer having control over it myself.
So I'm very encouraged by the answer I got ๐
its very niche to begin with, you probably wont find yourself in a situation where you need it, but its fun to have the option :P
Right, that's fine. It's like the R to "reload" thing. All the fuckin love being put into Dusk is why I'm excited about it more than other shooters.
Wat r to reload?
Oh the flippy pistols shit?
That's what I meant, yes. Sorry!
Oh no you're fine
Kinda thought that's what you meant but also wasn't sure if you were saying r to reload is niche in other games and I'm sitting here like man I'm always reloading whenever I can
haha right that makes sense. I just meant that like, all the stuff that makes Dusk different is really exciting ๐
It is, I love dusk so far can't wait for the rest
tfw you know what people have played of dusk isnt even close to as good as the real thing
dusk is more about its levels than its bosses lol
So are all the bosses ezpz
we'll find out when the game is done lol
Sounds like a yes to me ;)
i literally wouldnt know
im going off of what david has said in the past
that he doesnt like bosses in fps games
Surely the game will have a "go fuck yourself" difficulty setting, right? Would seem out of place not to have a Nightmare/Ultra-violence setting.
duskmare
one hit kill
The hardest is one hit and dead
dope
ye that's the normal haredest diff
yes theres more
Kewl
at the very least, ones you can see in youtube videos of pax gameplay are black phillips and farmer's wives
but there will be more beyond those as well
those are the only two im at liberty to say
Oh so black phillips are an actual enemy
yes 100%
I thought that was just a joke Dave made
what are they supposed to do?
Cool beans
nope
they are low health fodder anemies that fire a meat projectile
the projectile is fast, the phillips are of a medium speed
they pose a significant threat in duskmare if you arent careful, i tried a few waves of duskmare endless mode at pax
i got sniped midair by one :(
well, what do you mean by lowest tier
black phillips probably pose the lowest threat, maybe tied with soldier
however the lowest HEALTH is the rat
is it an enemy?
lmao
btw this is out of enemies youve seen/have been announced publicly
i will not comment on things that arent announced
:^)
but yeah on duskmare
have fun with rats
getting one shot by an enemy you can barely see or aim at :)))))))))
great name bruv
you could have a bettter name reeeeeeeeeeeee
when daves online for more than 15 minutes and hasnt posted a key
he's currently away from the vault of dusk keys
there's safe full of fortune cookies at his house
inside the fortune cookies are the dusk keys
so he has to pop one open, eat the cookie, then type the key in here
does he like them????????
are they a pleasure to eat???????????
does he want MORE????
they are slightly toxic, so for each one he eats he dies a little on the inside.
Ill send 10 boxes of belgian chocolate cookies if you give me a key
Bribes don't work here, my dude
How about i send the chocolate for nothing in return and you send me a key for nothing in return haha
Does it open a portal to a secret cult farm dimension?
nah. it probably won't open anything so it's a totally useless piece of metal
good deal
admin keeping everything hushhush lol
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does increasing difficulty increase number of enemies or their health/damage amt?
difiiculty increases are mostly tied to damage
Another way to increase difficulty is rum
He should write a key down on a flag and hang it on his window
YES
Aww. I like difficulties that have stronger aleffects on the game
whats up guys ๐ Are there plans for an open beta for DUSK?
I don't think so
I don't think they're ready to divulge that information at this time, however alpha keys are readily available, and will grant you access to an eventual 'beta' and a retail copy on release
"aloha keys"
ooh keys ๐
Phone typo
do the devs hand them out at random?
YOU GUYS THIS NEXT KEY IF IT COMES IN THE NEXT HOUR IS MINE
Yarp @wide tapir
im just sitting here and listening to tiny tim
cool
They are posted at random In here, and during movie nights
or 12am
Frodo I'm gonna take it for my smurf account
NOOOOOOOOO
and the key gives you beta access straight away or are the keys for a dedicated and unannounced beta phase ^^?
gives you access to the whole game later
The keys give you alpha access straight away on steam
rn its just the updated episode 1
cool
and later episode 1 is coming
good stuff, guess ill be hangign around here from now on ^^
a few weeks
DUSKworlds beta testing phase is as of yet unnanounced
absolutly, the game looks sic as fck
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 3 MONTHS
RIP Frodo
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damn frodo ^^ i hope you get a key soon
If you don't know already, duskworld is the multi-player component
As more people join it gets harder
oh dont worry i just the worst luck lmao
When i got my key it was the most intense 10 seconds of my life
some keys are snatched without the lurker announcing
its really mean
usually some people will be like I GOT A KEY SDOKAJSDOIASDJAODOIADJSAOIJDAIOS
but not some people
do they just openly post the key and first person activating it gets it ^^?
it took me a minute to say anything not gonna lie
first person to copy and paste and click activate it gets it
Sometimes there are small competitions for them
Well sometimes they upload a photo of the keys
yeah like meanies
Hidden in an image, or trivia
damn
That's how I got spacemen
dave asks for people to give funny dusk memes for keys etc.
when far cry 5's cover was leaked it became a passive competition
hello, bot?
BOT BROKE
but !duskinfo
understandable, have a great day
DUSK FAQ
- How much will it cost? Likely ~$20.
- Will it have multiplayer/co-op? Yes, VS mode will be available at release with co-op planned later on.
- Mod support? TBA
- p2p or dedicated server? TBA.
- Console release? Not planned at this time.
- When will it come out? When its done.
there
cool
The bot was updated yesterday for maintenance, so it may have broken some commands
Nobody panic
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i panic inside all day
also holy shit wasnt the user count like 290 in april
holy shit we;re growing oh no this wasnt part of the plan
^^
No,it was around 1500
i mean online
dont panic frodo
Concurrency was about 300 yeah
i mean we all get to play the game..eventually
yeah i just wanna pay now
me too ^^
screw zombie chronicles for bo3
There's not a lot to play RN in dusk
The alpha is a year old and almost nothing like the actual game now
I think some people paying would be okay because some people know what's to come but yeah, probably would be an early access pr nightmare if most folks paid now for what is there
The movement's better? How?
well... design is obviously still the same. But yeah almost everything is better now
movement is smoother
The movement was already near-perfection
pre-alpha movement updated at 50fps
Except for the flips
so it felt a bit jerky esp on higher refresh displays
Here's an important question
that has been fully alleviated
just was about to ask about framerates: Does the game support uncapped framerates?
Yes
Can you do a corkscrew by flipping and turning at same time
Dusk roller coaster simulator edition
Dusk ships at 144 (150??) cap by default, but has a slider for framerate cap all the way to 300, then unlimited
(if you want your pc to die)
you can set it to a cinematic 24fps
because fuck you thats why
will there be a kick like in duke nukem 3d
@sullen carbon you can
Hell yeah
@dusty sail nope but there is a Mighty Sickles button
Is it the 1 button
oh my
@crystal vessel middle mouse by default
to quickly draw sickles and attack
1 to select sickles
Oh nice
I think that's in pre alpha too actually
Gross I'll need to rebind that
Rebinds are totally a thing
u don't like Mighty Sickles?
middle mouse is icky
i use it for reload in half life
its all about MOUSE 6
Because it's the only button you can scroll while trying to press
not on my mouse
well mighty sickles isn't that important of a command anyway
Yeah that's not too bad
Lmao when games make middle mouse zoom that really grinds my gears
I like to bind forward movement to middle click tbh
I always used middle mouse as a "Use Item" button as a kid
Even though all I have to do is rebind
But these days every mouse has a mouse4/5 button so I no longer use it that much
Yeah thank goodness for 4 and 5
4 and 5 are legit
I have a button on my shit mouse that unlocks the scroll wheel that I like
So I can switch weapons faster than the speed of light
Or in l4d, shoot the pistols faster than the speed of light
Remember when tf2 pistols were uncapped? I 
Didn't play tf2 for years after release so no :(
Rip
Back when you mapped fire to the mouse wheel
Who knows, maybe it does :ooo
Word.
I for one am SO happy that @thorn trout decided to include the cerebral bore in DUSKWorld
bruh
what
Oh yeah onions issue
the day i got my switch and zelda botw ๐
I forgot he still hasn't played dusk
Oh the joke was I was removing it because of the cerebal bore
That's so insane to me holy shit
Wait really?
LMAO
Wait up one sec
NOW GIVE IT TO ME /s
It's broken
or do
wat
The fact that I can remove it means that it can be exchanged for a beta key
imagine the ultimate practical joke dave could make
5 keys
all unlock on launch day
bruh
Xangi also got one but we're pretty sure he died or something
that would be EVIL
THE WAIT WAS WORTH IT
@prisma ivy grats, let's us know if you like it
(and hook me up fam)
It good
It's a really cheap weapon in Turok 2
Frodo just google Cerebral Bore
SCOTTISH DEATH METAL BAND
still prefer bullet for my valentine because im welsh
@thorn trout Hey, are you working on Dusk's multiplayer portion? If so, could I trouble you for some assistance in Unity?
@mild ginkgo would probably be the one to ask about such things
I'll PM him. Thanks dude.
@modern trellis whats up
we can take this to #general-art or pms if its more in depth
Am typing PM. May be in depth
did i miss a key :D?
nope
I loved the cerebral bore in turok
@wide tapir No key in almost a week. Dave has been snorting pixie dust and verbally assaulting strippers in Vegas.
^^
''I'LL GIVE YOU A DUSK KEY IF YOU GIVE ME A DANCE!''
-Dave Oshry
Co-Founder, CEO of New Blood Interactive
eh
was that a death grips reference
Will there be a retail release? Like in those big boxes
a big box release with some collector's items is planned but there are no details on it yet
Cool
Steam wish list, post sale purchases.
A few, sure. Mostly it was just like "if this game is 75% off and I still don't want to buy it, let's get rid of it"
feelsbadman
I can't even put it on my wishlist anymore.
maybe
@crimson folio I think literally any FPS from 93-2000 you could name has influenced Dusk in some way
yup :)
What's the Chex Quest influence? ๐ฆ
admittedly I don't think I took any influence from Chex Quest
heresy
thats actually a good idea tho
make them slimes
split up when killed and absorbs things
fucking kicked
why is that thumbsup so desaturated
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wow
mfw the steam sale is on but dusk hasnt been released yet ๐ข
soon โข
I was looking at strafe by devolver but then I learned about dusk
was like imma wait for you bb
have you played the alpha/beta?
im sure
the alpha looked awesome so if its better I cant wait
just hope my potato can run it
Windows 10 can't run anything
got me there
atleast its not 8.1
but the drm thing with windows 10 is really annoying
how you have to crack your old cd's to actually run them on 10
you should be pretty ok
That'll definitely run it
lol
but its amd
1998 mode?
nah
yeah, you'll be able to play dusk fine

well, a key wouldnt give you the current build, youd get the old one
which runs half as well, and also doesnt have low spec mode
dont worry about it m8. you'll be able to run it
which engine is it built on?
unity
really unity?
And clown vomit visuals
yep, its in unity
unity can be good if you know what you're doing with it!
you have a point
although I've got ptus from some games rushed onto greenlight
post traumatic unity syndrome
rightfully so
did someone say digital homicide
LOTS of inexperienced devs use it for asset flips
unity doesnt deserve the hate it gets
dusk does not have this issue
i remember hearing someone say "i'e never seen good movement in a unity game"
thats about to change
yeah but thats a mess
how?
unity doesnt really have a reason to be bashed
the shooting and movement are janky in rust
its harder to get graphically intensive beautiful looking stuff in it but its a good engine
dusk is veryyyy slick and tight with its movement and shooty
and even that can be done to an extent
but it has the graphics of an early 2000 game
than one that looks graphically intensive




