the closet soldier and roof soldier?
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
exotic ibex
atomic egret
I'm like 99% sure it was the soldiers on the left side of the 3rd room
exotic ibex
thats possible
atomic egret
I remember sniping the roof one with the hunting rifle
exotic ibex
well i guess its time to practice my route a bit more than start recording
i might be able to get under 3:20 but i doubt 3
atomic egret
I'm not sure anybody's actually uploaded a 100% speedrun
so if you upload it it's pretty much official
exotic ibex
well my route can only be changed in one way and i think it loses time
exotic ibex
david i hate your path finding
soldiers doing random shit. leathernecks walking too far before turning around, mages not giving a fuck about me and wandering in random directions.
and the fucking blue key scarecrow walking off to the left randomly instead of forward.
its tormenting me
AND THIS FUCKING GEM ON THE SHACK
thorn trout
I sorry :P
exotic ibex
its okay. i'll forgive you once this nightmare is over
you said pathfinding is based on framerate, right?
exotic ibex
i thought you said at one point their AI was based on framerate
okay
well its a nightmare
thorn trout
hmm I wonder if that's a bad sign for the full game 100% speedrunning wise
exotic ibex
i can upload some of what i have to show you the randomness of their actions
i have to slow down to more reliably manipulate them
my upload is garbage so it'll be a bit but i can do that
i enjoy the 100% run its just that sometimes the lethernecks in the hook room dont turn in time and the SSG cant on shot them.
warm umbra
Can you go faster when strafe running?
exotic ibex
had the bluekey screcrow go left and right sometimes as opposed to straight ahead
dont think so @warm umbra
could be wrong
my movement is garbo
thorn trout
I'm not sure how to make behavior less random since it seems like there's no set order that things execute so my plan of seeding the randomizer at the beginning of the level doesn't actually work out
graceful wing
it's fine tbh. havinmg a random element makes speedrunning more interesting anyways
exotic ibex
its up to you honestly. the game is really fun to run
as a spectator yeah.
i just have to slow down at certain points when i wanna keep going
thorn trout
I'd prefer if behavior etc were consistent but I'm just not sure how to do it
graceful wing
i'll be happy with whatever decision you go with. randomness doesn't matter too much
exotic ibex
yeah. if you dont know how to improve it then it works as it is
its just a weird quirk
i just wanted to complain a bit cause i've been at this for a couple of hours
graceful wing
speedrunning is only gonna be done by a tiny fraction of the community anyways. best to make sure things work well for the average player first 😛
exotic ibex
actually im gonna set up a stream. see that goes.
exotic ibex
ayy there we go
thorn trout
ugh yeah that bug. It's a Unity thing.
thorn trout
doesn't the alpha have the in-game enemy/secret/time display?
jade root
Yeah
exotic ibex
yeah but its distracting
jade root
Tab
exotic ibex
i tried to use it to snipe the mages in the attic with the crossbow but i found im hitting things in the underground tunnel giving me a fasle sense of security
i kill one up there but it says im killing two or three
not sure what im hitting at all
exotic ibex
im just bad at speedrunning
this is my frist serious attempt at it
if you still have the ability to open the pre-alpha map up
could you possibly tell me what im hitting
i'll give you the angle im shooting from
exotic ibex
so from the threestory roof secret
im using a gas cann to boost off the basement door
the opposite side of the roof is my angle
thorn trout
at the guys in the attic?
exotic ibex
yes
right around those bullet holes
maybe a little more to the right but thats the angle
i know im hitting more than just the attic mages
thorn trout
could it be the leathernecks in the basement right corner, right next to the secret that connects to the first room? If not that, my guess is someone in the house but I assume you've thought of that
thorn trout
hmm
exotic ibex
so either its someone in the yellow key room or someone pathing into it?
thorn trout
I can't remember if crossbow bolts have a range limit in the alpha. If not maybe it's flying all the way to the underground boss area and hitting some of the enemies that are there?
exotic ibex
thats possible
thorn trout
the angle might not make sense though. It would have to be pretty steep
exotic ibex
when i open the red door sometimes theres two soldier, sometimes theres three, rarely theres one.
jade root
Oh yeah David did you fix the mortar so you can actually detonate the last grenade?
jade root
Scoot was talking about it
mild ginkgo
But muh inverse detonating
jade root
So I was wandering
thorn trout
all righty, I need to head out. Be back later
mild ginkgo
Have a good one
jade root
Later dude
jade root
If you see Bigfoot snap a pic for me
exotic ibex
quick suggestions @thorn trout if you can. add the ability to keep the time/enemy/secret display up without having to hold tab and maybe add the ability to change the text color as well as place the time under the crosshair. i would like to time when im supposed to clear a certain area easier.
mild ginkgo
The display already has that I believe
exotic ibex
neat
mild ginkgo
Moving and recoloring you'll need a mod for
exotic ibex
im not sure how hard it would be to implement that
exotic ibex
it is
mild ginkgo
I think you'll be able to glance in the corner no sweat
exotic ibex
its easier to quickly jot my eyes a bit down, get the time, and back to the crosshair
thats why my timer in reflex is almost directly under my crosshair
mild ginkgo
This is very firmly a Hank thing
exotic ibex
lol
i can keep control while peering down with the timer slightly below the crosshair, i cant so much if its in the corner
just a suggestion tho
mild ginkgo
Fun fact, you don't need to change your aim when you look at the time in the corner!
exotic ibex
i can easily do the segment, tab, check time, write it down.
yeah but with how fucking fast dusk is its a bit hard to tcheck time and keep the speed going.
stop suggestion shaming me! :(
mild ginkgo
I think just having it on permanent display will help a lot
exotic ibex
probably
mild ginkgo
Having to think about pressing tab, pressing tab, then letting go is a whole cycle removed
thorn trout
yeah it's a toggle now. Having to hold tab was stupid. Should have been a toggle from moment 1
thorn trout
yup
exotic ibex
is my request to have the timer a bit below the crosshair weird at all?
just wonderign
jade root
Make that optional of course
mild ginkgo
yes, it is weird
thorn trout
A bit weird but it shouldn't be difficult
exotic ibex
even as a joke that has a bit of a sting
thorn trout
I don't mind you bringing people in that have opinions about retro FPS stuff. That's how we ensure Dusk hits the mark.
exotic ibex
dusk movement did get a bit of a tweak from it
thorn trout
yup
chrome tundra
BTW, if I am right Dusk uses image effect to simulate the pixelated effect. Is there any native way in Unity to actually change the internal resolution without using rendertexture for example? So, a method that would actually gain some performance boost.
mild ginkgo
its not worth doing.
prisma halo
there is
crimson folio
Will the first episode of Dusk have multiple boss battles?
thorn trout
yup
exotic ibex
i hope theres a boss that spawns dudes. i can never have enough dudes.
quiet rose
itll spawn hanks
indigo venture
I see the character do flips sometimes is that controlled or automatic?
particularly on jump pads
quiet rose
Player controlled
mild ginkgo
dont need to be on a jump pad, so if you just do a jump, you cann do it
indigo venture
Outstanding
hollow ivyBOT
quiet rose
Oh i thought he said kick 
exotic ibex
good enough. thanks bruv
exotic ibex
yes
quiet rose
wow those noclip arrows
exotic ibex
my warmup period is like
3 hours
i started getting okay at it yesterday after going hard for 6 hours
and i've lost all of it
mild ginkgo
kid just finish a run
youll be the only one with a run uploaded
and get it by default
exotic ibex
i need it to be at least half way decent
exotic ibex
everytime i've gotten it i've missed two dudes
i'll get it eventually god damnit
if i have to back up this alpha to get it after E1 drops then i will
mild ginkgo
rofl
exotic ibex
i respect you, gilby, and brainfluid for even being able to get through the tunnel as fast you do
mild ginkgo
time is?
mild ginkgo
zzz
exotic ibex
i still have no idea how gilby got 78/80 6/6 in 2:04
mild ginkgo
i dont honestly believe he did
i bet there was a quicksave/load in the middle
that resets the timer
mild ginkgo
exactly
autumn compass
somehow hank has managed to sink in 60 hours into pre-alpha dusk
steel wind
I'd like to sink 60 seconds into the thing these days. Got a taste from QuakeCon last year and I've been like a crackhead on withdrawals ever since.
exotic ibex
inb4 @mild ginkgo or @radiant venture take the route and my record
time to tighten it up.
radiant venture
I'll take a look at it tomorrow
indigo venture
I love the anonimity of the protagonist. It allows for such creativity. I for one like to think I had a threeway with Cleetus' wife and sister so he rounded up the boys and stuck me on a meat hook. 😄
antics follow
jade root
what
woeful sonnet
@jade root my thoughts exactly.
jade root
Okay good to know someone else shares my opinion
mild ginkgo
Je suis duskdude
indigo venture
eeeeeh okay ur right, Cleetus' wife and sister were the same person.
eager shell
narrow mica
@eager shell when it's done
fiery narwhal
are you guys still aiming for 2017?
i saw jim sterling's video on it, it looks very good
stuck crypt
aye
mild ginkgo
Sure, the aim is probably 2017 ,i cant quite speak for them, but the better answer is the classic "when its ready" obviously
stuck crypt
Congrats
fiery narwhal
that's cool, thank you
stuck crypt
(not sure if it's the right response tho, if it's wrong then I am sorry)
gleaming berry
atomic egret
Are you calling me a liar Scott @mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
im saying it could happen on accident
look how optimized hank got it, that seems like acrazy time
2:04
although, i got no proof 😎
broken osprey
i carried the soap all the way to the duke bros and it DID OHK them
you were right. soap is the most op weapon in the game
but i've yet to test the metal box
mild ginkgo
metal box wont
soap is actually special
intentionally the most powerful wepaon in the game
thorn trout
yeah it does like 100k damage or something like thjat
autumn compass
can we add the soap as a secret in multiplayer?
crystal vessel
The BFG of Dusk
vague egret
What's Google blob?
stuck crypt
It's a whole new set of emotes from the Google Emotes discord
It's private as fuck so you need a friend or you need to be real lucky to get an invite
I got kicked because of the fact that they do resets
If someone does not respond to the reset
They are off the server
exotic ibex
i just noticed the shell ejection is tied to viewmodels.
now firing the SSG is super distracting.
mild ginkgo
thats in a LOT of games
exotic ibex
yeah but its super weird in dusk because of the speed
also when you jump over the leatherneck in the tunnel after that door do you wait to the left of it like brainfluid?
your oob mouse movements do a damn good job of hiding what exactly you did
@mild ginkgo
plus your brightness is dark as fuck.
mild ginkgo
yeah wait to the left
mild ginkgo
hf, should be an easy record
as long as you can get a 6 second ladder
its easy win
exotic ibex
i keep fucking the can jump up
exotic ibex
yeah i can see that tunnel left improvement
i still have a chance assuming i can get the ladder when you do
i just need to slip out of the window faster
which i think im already doing
exotic ibex
i know
its all in the tunnel
there is a chance i can get it post ladder though
but that isnt where im aiming
mild ginkgo
yeah idk about that
youd be hard pressed to squeeze a full second out of that
if this wasnt alpha fractions would matter, but sadly, they dont here
crimson folio
Has the weapons roster in the current build of Dusk changed much since the Alpha?
exotic ibex
i can get 7 second ladders consistently but i literally can not break boundries
i dont understand why
unique saffron
You just have to believe
exotic ibex
believing isnt working
unique saffron
Believe harder
exotic ibex
i've been believing i have it right and it just barely tells me to go fuck myself
exotic ibex
so i should just detach my legs at the hip?
unique saffron
If you can, send pics
atomic egret
you trying to take glitched from scott?
20 seconds is ease boi
it's just getting lower than that that's the problem
exotic ibex
i get to the ladder in 7 seconds consistently.
the can is a problem but i think i figured it out
i dont think i can get a 6 second ladder.
at all.
atomic egret
you now know my pain
exotic ibex
yeah. im not getting this shit. there's absolutely no way i can get a 6 ladder.
its done. gg.
crystal vessel
Speedrunning is lame anyway
exotic ibex
well its the only thing i have to do until vanquish comes out. my wifi wont let me play any of the games i actually enjoy palying.
modern trellis
I came to show my support and for a key to test a build. Strafe is such a dissapointment, and then LGR gave Dusk the 90s game blessing. After I discovered this game I was hooked. If I didn't have another year left in college, I'd apply for a job today haha.
hexed roost
Keys are dropped in here regularly, redeemed on Steam of course. That's currently the only way to get one. If you see El Oshcuro online, be sure to have the key redemption window open!
modern trellis
@hexed roost I'll keep on the lookout. Thank you for the heads up!
prisma halo
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prisma halo
I'm not even sure if I should post Dawn WIPs in here or #general-art anymore lmao
mild ginkgo
yeah, i mean, this particular block has nearly nothing to do with dusk proper i guess
prisma halo
Yeah, fair enough
jade root
Just dump code blocks in gamedev
prisma halo
It's rather generalized
mild ginkgo
which is 👌
jade root
Even if it isn't game related
prisma halo
What about code blocks from scripts?
jade root
It's still dev of something
prisma halo
alright
mild ginkgo
hmm
hexed roost
🙌
jade root
Up your ass and around the corner
jade root
Anytime
worn nest
thank you
fair mirage
there's one at dave's house
jade root
Except Dave sold his house 🤔
jade root
fair mirage
graceful wing
vague egret
dave lives in the dusk truck. he travels across the country to LAN parties and gaming conventions to peddle keys and memes
orchid shoal
still lurking
vague egret
lurk harder
orchid shoal
and faster
graceful wing
and better
fair mirage
and stronger
quiet rose
viral mist
Thick memes
toxic wadi
exotic ibex
toxic wadi
thanks boss, gave it to my friend who was hyped for the game
fair mirage
stuck crypt
welp
lost the opportunity
eh I like to wait for the full thing
can't wait for the deadline
olive flax
damn, i thought i was an expert lurker but i clearly have much to learn
stuck crypt
^
I need to be a better spy
know when this guy wakes up or not ye I need to up my game
jade root
Dave just kinda wanders around, but he's usually here at night
stuck crypt
It's 2:47 PM here
jade root
You must live on the actual other side of the planet cause it's 2:48 am here
jade root
🔫 😎
kind cobalt
There are 3 Dusk Trucks heading toward Boulder City. 2 of them are decoys that will infect you with a virus which permanently fucks up any wifi or ethernet cables around you. What do?
orchid shoal
i am lurking 3 days for the key and today i have to go my exam and missing my chance :/
unique saffron
I would install Maleware Bytes and open up all three
can't get a virus with protection
👌🏾
kind cobalt
There are no anti viruses for this, and it infects YOU personally, permanently.
it's like the world's shittiest super power
kind cobalt
Skeletons can be infected by this particular virus for no particular reason
unique saffron
Bullshit, show me the research paper
thin sphinx
hey what is the progress state last posted by the dusk devs?
exotic ibex
E1 almost release ready was what i gathered.
mild ginkgo
^this is accurate
proven raptor
and those who got a pre alpha key get the game when its done right?
gleaming berry
Episode 1 is pretty much done
endless mode is pretty much done
with 2 levels in
Episode 2 has been started on
so has MP
stuck crypt
How many episodes is Dusk going to have?
olive flax
three, i believe
the traditional quantity... though some shareware went overboard and had four, and a few underachievers had just two
exotic ibex
3 episodes with 11 each. 33 levels in total
3 endless maps, i assume themed with each episodes.
prisma halo
it was 11 each?
exotic ibex
from i remember being told, yes.
prisma halo
I thought it was 10
exotic ibex
i believe it was 10 regular levels than a boss level
exotic ibex
oh ye
gleaming berry
yah
33 levels
3 episodes
10 levels + 1 secret level in each episode
3 endless maps (1 themed with each episode)
and then MP
stuck crypt
Sounds pure badass
gleaming berry
and then Workshop and Co-op down the line after launch hopefully
exotic ibex
pretty fucking good for assumed $20
stuck crypt
would there be mod support-
gleaming berry
Yeah $19.99 is prob the price
stuck crypt
Holy shit that's better than what STRAFE has to offer
exotic ibex
im taking my first dip into mapping with it
stuck crypt
Guys give me my SFM I am doing commissions for this shit
prisma halo
I think I might actually have something to show off soon
exotic ibex
hope i can provide quality maps
gleaming berry
all maps are quality maps
prisma halo
also dave
exotic ibex
you think you might have map importing ready for when E1 is public?
prisma halo
since the SDK is radically different from a normal build of the game
it requires a lot of files and such that aren't normally with the game
gleaming berry
SDK would be in the Tools section of your steam library
prisma halo
if necessary, would it be possible to set up like
gleaming berry
we make it separate
prisma halo
a beta branch on Steam for people later
gleaming berry
yeah we can make as many dev branches as we want
prisma halo
so I can safely get people testing the SDK without wandering into "oh fuck you shouldn't have that" territory
exotic ibex
but i like having things i shouldnt have
gleaming berry
But all toolkits, SDKs etc can be setup as tools that come with the game
as a separate install
we did that with ROTT
LDK
prisma halo
I say SDK but it's more like the game itself, but modifiable
gleaming berry
which is basically UDK
prisma halo
the tools themselves are an entirely separate thing
stuck crypt
hold me daddy
gleaming berry
Oh so you mean a test branch
prisma halo
Yeah
gleaming berry
thats always up?
prisma halo
of the actual game
gleaming berry
yeah that's easy
prisma halo
cool
gleaming berry
we can just make a branch called MAP TESTING BRANCH
or some bs
password protect it
done deal
prisma halo
that makes things easier
exotic ibex
so basically i get to learn how to map soon
prisma halo
you can learn now kiddo
exotic ibex
trenchbroom?
prisma halo
trenchbroom, gtkradiant, whatever you want to use
pretty much any mapping tool that can make q1bsp & q3bsp maps should be good enough
if you can map for quake, you can map for dusk
exotic ibex
it just feels really weird building maps with trenchbroom and setting it up like its quake
yeah but enemies are different
weapons and shit
cant keep all of it in a mental note
prisma halo
Hmm
I might build a temporary .fgd later then
which would pretty much give you all of the Dusk entities and stuff to place in the map
but the downside
is that you couldn't test the map since those entities don't exist in Quake
you'd have to wait for a Dusk build to run it in
prisma halo
prisma halo
if you want you could try your hand at building your own .fgd even
it's just a text format file
where you specify a bunch of names for stuff
exotic ibex
maybe
prisma halo
trenchbroom uses fgd too
exotic ibex
thats the reason i never got into mapping earlier
prisma halo
exotic ibex
yeeeeeah i would fail really, really badly at this.
exotic ibex
yeah.
prisma halo
Yeah
and to make things easier for people
I'll probably make a tool to read a mod and generate an .fgd for it
exotic ibex
im just gonna end up waiting for zombie to write that up and then i'll start cracking down on learning how to map for dusk
prisma halo
Yeah, place a bunch of dummy objects where you want stuff to be
or like
put a few func_message objects down
exotic ibex
eeh. not a fan of that but i might do it anyway.
prisma halo
and set the message to the name of whatever you actually want there
exotic ibex
im out of things to do until vanquish
i've got a few ideas of general level designs.
mild ginkgo
geometry takes the longest of everything anyways
focus on the flow , everything else after
exotic ibex
ye. the only thing im worried about is its not going to make much sense with some of the enemies
like scarecrows underground and shit
scarecrows dont belong underground
mild ginkgo
They also arent animate
exotic ibex
lmao
mild ginkgo
you dont need an excuse to place enemies
exotic ibex
that beign said im not too worried. i just wanna build cool SP maps.
mild ginkgo
BUILD MP MAPS PLS
exotic ibex
fucking
thats like
ten times harder
actually yeah i'll fuck around with MP ideas first.
that seems easier right off the bat
vertical maps are gonna be awful to make for dusk though
fuck i remember why i stopped fucking with trenchbroom. getting it to export and convert into a .bsp was fucking annoying.
exotic ibex
yeah, i got it open. trying to think of how i want the general flow to work
i'll give it my best m8.
im just going to assume that the duskdude is about the size of ranger.
prisma halo
please do note down any main issues you have with the mapping process for Quake, since I want to make a bunch of small tools to automate many of the more painful processes
exotic ibex
the only one i've had so far is getting trenchbroom to export the .map and convert to .bsp
thats it
but thats more being an idiot and unfamiliar with this program
prisma halo
that could probably be simplified with an external program that compiles the map for you I guess
or hell I could try and support loading .map files into the game directly
exotic ibex
those exist its just setting it up in trenchbroom
because trenchbroom doesnt have it set up automatically
prisma halo
ah
exotic ibex
and all the guides i've seen explaining how to set it up dont make sense to me.
mild ginkgo
i need a really solid MP map suggestion
bloodrun is the one ive heard the most
but its still an enclosed space
dusk needs some room
exotic ibex
i cant think of any maps that are as wide and open as dusk needs
exotic ibex
maybe warsow has some good maps to look through
i can boot that up and help you look through em
mild ginkgo
i dont even have that installed
atomic egret
What about a ghetto version of the rooftop map from ratz
exotic ibex
that would be fucking awful
atomic egret
You're fucking awful
exotic ibex
yeah warsow might have the maps you're looking for @mild ginkgo
the one im looking at now looks fairly decent
atomic egret
Don't listen to him do a ratz map
mild ginkgo
whats it called hank
atomic egret
Fairy land
exotic ibex
god damnit. warsow prevented me from selecting discord, had to close it now i cant select anything through fucking explorer
i'll find it again. hold pls
@mild ginkgo WDM12
it was clearly built for warsow but it looks like it should be a decent substitute until proper MP maps are made.
mild ginkgo
wow that does look like a nice fit
exotic ibex
id find more maps to recommend but im not entirely sure how everyone feels about ripping maps wholecloth from other AFPS
mild ginkgo
oh its 100% for testing purposes
exotic ibex
yeah.
but i was recently palying this with another friend and came across a few maps that felt like really good templates to look at for duskworld maps
mild ginkgo
i think itd be better just getting its own maps
the mechanics of teleporters and boost pads need to shine
exotic ibex
im not saying rip off warsow maps but more looking at how these levels are built and taking some fo the design ideas. maybe flow is the better word. idk.
mild ginkgo
yeah youre on point with that for sure
i just lack the creativity to start one
maybe coming up with a theme/setting would help me
exotic ibex
yeah. im in that rut right now too
im probably gonan spend some time learning a lot fo these maps and try to apply it in trenchbroom
but i cant think of any map on reflex that would be a good example
reflex is a pretty tight game
flat inlet
theme and setting should come last
exotic ibex
theme in dusk can dictate how its built
flat inlet
just like you shouldnt think of the story of a game before you know what mechanics you will have
exotic ibex
i havent seen how david wants E3 to look but if E2 looks anything like the current endless level
than vertical maps can be E2 themed and horizontal maps can be E1 themed
prisma halo
if you want E2 look at Half-Life
stuck crypt
Reflex?
exotic ibex
its an AFPS
fair mirage
SHOOTER GAME
stuck crypt
aaaaah
flat inlet
and what i mean with that statement is that its not the story or the setting of whatever that actually makes the level or the game
exotic ibex
right but a vertical map wont make sense in the farm episode
flat inlet
why not?
stuck crypt
I cant wait to see Dusk "Frag" videos
exotic ibex
i couldnt see a mine shaft in a farm place though.
prisma halo
D-Frag
exotic ibex
maybe thats just me
prisma halo
heh
exotic ibex
one of my buddies is a defrag nerd and he recently asked me about defrag shit for dusk
flat inlet
have you played oldschool fps? most of them dont make much "sense"
prisma halo
Not all of them were that abstract though
exotic ibex
^
prisma halo
Dusk is more inspired by Blood and Quake than Doom and the like
stuck crypt
They had consistent artstyle
flat inlet
the idtech ones kinda where
prisma halo
Blood and Quake had much more believable level design
Dusk isn't getting abstract until episode 3
I recall it being stated that it should feel like it's gradually getting more insane the deeper you go
exotic ibex
so having the general theme in mind an most certainly help with building a MP map for dusk
especially for inspiration on layout
flat inlet
you greybox out a map layout and make sure you have a good map, playtest it a bunch, iron out its flaws, then apply the theme
adjustments can be made afterwords once you have a working map to fit the theme
exotic ibex
this si a stupid fucking arguement. no shit you apply it after but having one in mind can help.
flat inlet
that just seems limiting to me
flat inlet
yeah but you dont wanna skip trying out ideas that makes for fun gameplay just because it dosent fit the theme
flat inlet
you just said that a vertical level wouldnt fit the farm theme
exotic ibex
well shit maybe then you switch themees dummy?
maybe you do a combo of both?
oh fuck a factory near some farm house?
bam excuse for verticality and horizontal maps
im not saying theme first. im saying a theme can help inspire ideas
flat inlet
yeah whatever, i dont mean to come of as a dick, just saying how its most comonly done
exotic ibex
we're aware.
flat inlet
do what works best for you i guess 😃
exotic ibex
i'll start working on a dusk MP map tomorrow. im not even sure at all what general flow i want to go with.
gonna be hard as fuck without beign able to test it in game though
hexed roost
i recommend drawing a top-down map out first on gridpaper
exotic ibex
i've got trenchbroom out
hexed roost
don't focus on anything besides the blockout first
exotic ibex
i dont have gridpaper but i can translate it into trenchbroom well enough
and if i can at least export a .map i can give it to 500 and he can see it himself.
flat inlet
gleaming berry
Twitter
stuck crypt
depending on the refresh rate thingies ye
gleaming berry
since DUSK can run at like 300+ FPS and melt your GPU and cause camera issues
30/60/100/120/144/240/288/Uncapped
stuck crypt
melt GPU what
atomic egret
it's happened before
gleaming berry
it can happen
if you start rendering too many frames per second for no reason
shit will overheat
stuck crypt
ok notes taken
atomic egret
if I uncapped sleeping dogs it would go to 100fps and use up 100% of my vram then crash my pc
gleaming berry
I mean it's rare but if you have a beast PC and GPU and run a game like DUSK uncapped
could get like 400fps
stuck crypt
wew
gleaming berry
I always play to monitor rate anyway
stuck crypt
^
gleaming berry
3440x1440x60
stuck crypt
if they allow it it seems
prisma halo
Screen tearing's a bitch
gleaming berry
I'd like 120 but I have a 60hz monitor 😦
prisma halo
I always enable vsync
gleaming berry
I hate screen tearing I don't know how people play with it
prisma halo
shame since I never used to get screen tearing back on my laptop's monitor
prisma halo
I could run 200fps without any tearing
prisma halo
oh lord
gleaming berry
:erection:
stuck crypt
I dont notice the screen tearing myself
well
if I do
it's mostly a case of
"eh"
prisma halo
gleaming berry
I usually have to shoot for 60 as a max anyway since 3440x1440 makes things hard enough on Ultra
I had to cap Witcher 3 at 30fps
which was fine tbh
stuck crypt
wew
gleaming berry
CINEMATIC
gleaming berry
I actually liked witcher 3 at 30 a bit more - made the combat feel a bit weightier
stuck crypt
then you can just cap it to lower framerate
prisma halo
I'm lucky I'm totally fine with 1080p
gleaming berry
at 30 it never moved
dreamy tree
Hate those dips honestly
prisma halo
GTX 1060 serves me well
prisma halo
my monitor can't even do 1440p
gleaming berry
I need to beg Nvidia for a 1080
dreamy tree
Payday 2 had the same issue, it was always at 60 but then it dipped to 40 and even 20s and the input lag increased
gleaming berry
tell them DUSK NEEDS MORE POWER
stuck crypt
I never had problems with my PD2
except, if there's too much smoke
Sicario makes some sick vape nations
prisma halo
just the important thing is to ensure input is uncapped
a lot of things sadly get that wrong
prisma halo
BloodGDX appears to have input attached to framerate in some form
so when I made a patch to enable vsync since people were getting like, 2000 fps
input latency went to like 20ms
from practically 0
dreamy tree
nice
flat inlet
just go the overwatch way, allow to cap to refresh rate, or custom between 1-300fps
prisma halo
custom fps cap is pretty important for future-proofing
flat inlet
yeah i usually want to use 2x my refreshrate
gleaming berry
you can do any cap you want in .ini
but I want to have something in game
people love options
barren valve
dreamy tree
Put that uncapped FOV slider hell yeah
gleaming berry
ayyy
orchid shoal
lmao
crimson folio
whenever dave types in caps i get spooked and open up the steam key reader immediately
help
thick stone
Hear we're getting 300fps dusk
steel wind
Only if you have a 8800 GTX or faster.
gleaming berry
we're gonna have a slider that goes from 24-240 and then uncapped
in fact it's in the new bukd
BUILD
exotic ibex
DUSK
atomic egret
DID SOMEONE SAY NEW BUILD
exotic ibex
NO
atomic egret
AAARGH
jade root
the truth is david is hogging the dusk all to himself cause its 2cool4you nerds
fair mirage
i want the duks
dreamy tree
Bonus duks
atomic egret
:o
exotic ibex
when the time comes us nerds will get it
the time is coming
i can feel it in me bones
radiant venture
hank pls
jade root
2019
radiant venture
b&
exotic ibex
lmao
atomic egret
Rekon it'll come before tw2 dlc?
atomic egret
SHUT UP AM YES IT WILL
crystal vessel
I want it as much as you do
atomic egret
They said all they had left was balancing and compatibility stuff cause they made a standalone version as well as a dlc version
exotic ibex
DUCKS
atomic egret
#bnnuy-and-the-jits before lain gets mad
unique saffron
Can I be in the game
radiant venture
wrong kind of duk
radiant venture
unique saffron
I can quack into a small recorder and send it over
cold cypress
5 duck breeds that are great to keep in the garden
unique saffron
#4 will shock you
cold cypress
i wonder what are these breed, I don't have a garden though
steel wind
I will cap Dusk at 30 frames to recreate the sensation of trying to play Quake II on a voodoo
unique saffron
Cap it at 48fps,human eye can't see more than that and we can recreate the newest hobbit movie
cold cypress
wouldn't be easier to just play quak 2 on voodoo?
steel wind
yeah but I want new content, mang
cold cypress
that makes sense
unique saffron
All you need is Rocket Arena
steel wind
also do we know which studio is porting Dusk to the Sega Saturn?
radiant venture
or jump mod :^)
cold cypress
:D
unique saffron
Bioware
unique saffron
They are outsourcing the animations
cold cypress
even though I'm not really into playing fps on controllers
unique saffron
You'll be playing it on a keyboard
cold cypress
on psx?
steel wind
psx had a mouse
cold cypress
yeah i heard of that mouse
steel wind
I have the dreamcast mouse somewhere in my closet. The only way to go for Quake III on DC
cold cypress
I don't hav that
but i found somewhere IR wireless controlers for psx
they're probably broken
steel wind
whoa, IR technology
cold cypress
i couldn't get them to work
steel wind
super low latency because it's moving at the SPEED OF LIGHT
cold cypress
I've got bad memories with IR technolgie
I mean, file transfer on mobile phones was a really bad experience
:D
steel wind
lol
IIRC gameboy color had an IR blaster that was used for like, 2 games
including some mary kate and ashley game
cold cypress
yeah but that was different size of data
I imagine it was really quick to send something like, i dunno, pokemon
i mean, trading pokemon and stuff
damn, i guess that subject doesn't fit to this Duks channel
steel wind
oh crap, I forgot where we were
umm, dusk sure looks cool guys
I wish it had IR support for ???
(I think they bought it)
cold cypress
bullet trading?
steel wind
trade all of the bullets!
cold cypress
like from guns to heads
steel wind
like a nintendo zapper?
steel wind
that would be interesting. maybe an on rails version of dusk could be released
graceful wing
the zapper was a lightgun, not IR
cold cypress
yup
steel wind
well yeah
cold cypress
but the idea is quite simillar
steel wind
fine, like the nintendo wiimote
graceful wing
super zapper or w/e it was called though
cold cypress
you point the gun, you pull the trigger
graceful wing
that was IR
steel wind
you mean the super scope?
mild ginkgo
thats the one.
steel wind
I could never get the super scope games to work on my emu... I mean on my legit SNES
cold cypress
zapper games works well on emu.... oh, you know what i mean
unique saffron
Just need a CRT monitor
cold cypress
DUSK HUNTER on NES
steel wind
I have an old Mitsubishi tube TV in storage
the thing weighs a ton but still looks great
steel wind
btw, YES dusk hunt would be awesome
cold cypress
don't have much space though
steel wind
could come in a two-pack with super riot comrades
exotic ibex
@mild ginkgo does it matter to you if i build this with duel in mind?
mild ginkgo
no
exotic ibex
mmkay. hopefully i'll have something to show later tonight.
mild ginkgo
👌
steel wind
So in dusk, are the crossbow bolts supposed to look like glowing wieners?
thorny tulip
crimson folio
@steel wind i dont think they intended them to look like a weiner, they just happened to. Which is pretty funny.
fair mirage
there's a joke about that somewhere
H-dusk
someone's got the image around here
not me tho
crimson folio
Oh yeah on the Sonny jim podcast they talked about H-Dusk and Furry Dusk
That was funny
fair mirage
ye someone made the bolt flesh colored and it totally looks like a dick
crimson folio
I imagined that in my head and it sounds horrifying with all the edges the bolts have
steel wind
H-Dusk would be hilarious
crimson folio
If they allow that on the workshop i would 100% play through it
steel wind
Just trying to imagine sexy shotgun scarecrows...
austere egret
There are people who will draw Rule 34 of anything if you just ask them
steel wind
true
crimson folio
@austere egret in that case, let me make a DeviantArt account
radiant venture
@austere egret cna you pm the pic to me? :p
crimson folio
i should ask a bunch of people on DeviantArt to make DUSK rule 34 since DOOM rule 34 exists
austere egret
Didn't I just say that deviant art is not the place to go for that kind of thing?
crimson folio
yeah it is. Let me show you
stuck crypt
I'm running
steel wind
meh, they post that stuff on hentai foundry but they don't MAKE it there
I mean I guess they do
but DeviantArt has plenty of willing/starving artists
austere egret
The /R/Rule34 subreddit takes requests I think
exotic ibex
cough
steel wind
edit: nope
vague egret
r34 discussion doesnt belong here. even if its dusk related
steel wind
fair enough
austere egret
aww dang
stuck crypt
Group DMs can work
stuck crypt
YES
I GOT ITY
ijdxhnvidjg
THANK
YOU
FUCK ME DADDY
THANK YOU
OH FUCK ME DADDY
crystal vessel
Cool them jets, sonny boy.
exotic ibex
nah m8 its fine
crimson folio
I know how it is, be happy
crystal vessel
It is
exotic ibex
has a chance to topple sam in my favorite FPS actually.
crimson folio
Give a victory speech @Cpt. Sourcebird#7280
stuck crypt
Thank you El, for I would have not experienced the greatness of this game
but I wouldnt have been here without you all
btw guys this thing has bunny hopping?
crimson folio
yeah, dusk has probably some of the best bunnyhopping I've felt since Quake III tbh
stuck crypt
got it
steel wind
damn. congrats