Oh shit, Dave is on
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
austere egret
radiant venture
maybe he's imploring you to hope fuller dreams
austere egret
HERE COMES THE TWITTER SHILLING
jade root
If Dave shills I'm banning everyone single one of you
jade root
Your point?
tawny briar
no one to talk too
jade root
Then don't talk at all
slate edge
Go to general
tawny briar
some one to talk too
radiant venture
que?¨
tawny briar
its been lonely
radiant venture
👀
radiant venture
anyone can get it
radiant venture
wait for a drop
tawny briar
ya
autumn compass
come on man
radiant venture
GENO is scary
autumn compass
the meme aint that bad
autumn compass
huh me?
tawny briar
I watched gggmanlives's vid and loved the game
he said you can bhop at break neck speed
tawny briar
I really hope there is mods for the game
autumn compass
there definitely will be
tawny briar
ok well there is 100% going to be doom map mods
autumn compass
what about it?
tawny briar
its a good idea
autumn compass
@prisma halo modded in bloods machine gun
autumn compass
nighty laddie
jade root
Seriously stop. You don't need to mention you are alone. Move to #bnnuy-and-the-jits
tawny briar
ok ok
tawny briar
hexed roost
tawny briar
ok
frozen heart
CRAAAAAAAAWLING IIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIN
crimson folio
I WAS LITERALLY JUST LISTENING TO THAT
coral basin
ignore mods, attain Dusk keys 
tawny briar
ok
tawny briar
ya
sullen carbon
It will be banned from all the schools
tawny briar
oh no
hexed roost
far too dangerous for young minds
sullen carbon
And the next Columbine will happen because of Dusk
hexed roost
it will corrupt the youth
tawny briar
lol
hexed roost
dusk = dangerous
tawny briar
it's going to be like dusk
coral basin
Dusk will be a postive shooter
people will start going to KKK rallies and shooting up Klan members
sullen carbon
So those are supposed to be like that? On those farmers?
tawny briar
ya
jade root
Cthulhu cultists
crimson folio
the graphics in STRAFE and DUSK are just too real. it will corrupt young minds and cause mass violence
coral basin
oh shit
sullen carbon
Or just weird ass pointed burlap sack masks
tawny briar
ok i guess
jade root
Yep
coral basin
we need more Lovecraft horror
coral basin
I loved how Bloodborne turned in that direction
jade root
Mhm
coral basin
everyone thought Bloodborne was just a werewolf thing with beast and stuff
jade root
Bloodborne did it great
tawny briar
whats thing dog thing in the trailer
jade root
Nobody knows
tawny briar
ok
jade root
Except david
jade root
Who is actually working on the game?
That's sooner than I thought
@thorn trout you back to working on the game already?
prisma halo
@tawny briar You mean the horse that screams at the end?
tawny briar
ya
prisma halo
it's a secret
tawny briar
wait you mad the game right
prisma halo
no
hexed roost
that's reptar
thorn trout
@jade root off and on. I'm actually about to go take a nap
prisma halo
David (jefequeso) is working on Dusk
jade root
Ah
frozen heart
yes he made THE game
thorn trout
naw it'll come out I promise :)
tawny briar
i wish
sullen carbon
I am frothing at the mouth
thorn trout
@exotic ibex there's a level where you go through it yes :)
tawny briar
lol
frozen heart
go get help
prisma halo
wall?
thorn trout
okie dokie, off to nap. Probably gonna be a long night full of fussy baby stuff :P
tawny briar
ya what wall
sullen carbon
😃 Belated congrats
prisma halo
ohhh THAT wall
prisma halo
Twitter
sullen carbon
Twitter sux
frozen heart
it does
sullen carbon
Hail Satan, buy Dusk
tawny briar
i need a key
hexed roost
untrue, that's where i get all my animal pics from
prisma halo
here 🔑
tawny briar
clever
hexed roost
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
frozen heart
honestly
sullen carbon
But only if you do it at least fifty times, right?
frozen heart
i dont know which dave is which
tawny briar
thanks bot
prisma halo
basically, keep the Steam key redeem window open at all times
and pay close attention to this server
all channels
Dave can post a key anywhere
not just in #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
tawny briar
ok
sullen carbon
Is there a chaingun
jade root
No
frozen heart
jade root
Yeah you got that
Pistols, single barrel and double barrel shotguns, sickles, sword, machine gun, mortar, riveter, crossbow, and hunting rifle
That's the weapon lineup
sullen carbon
Is there a shrink ray like Duke Nukem 3D
tawny briar
like serious sam
sullen carbon
The shrink ray was more of a joke but I do love old timey chainguns
Oh shit I'd like to see that cannonball gun again
prisma halo
jade root
It's gonna be great
prisma halo
for those who haven't seen it
sullen carbon
I'm more excited about the VR stuff
hexed roost
VR? more like Pee-R
sullen carbon
Even though I can't afford any VR shit, but the fact they're redoing all the remakes for free
jade root
VR still too expensive
sullen carbon
Yes 😦
hexed roost
i'll stick with my eyetoy tyvm
jade root
I'll give you a toy to eye at
tawny briar
ok then
coral basin
@prisma halo ayyy you flushed the toilet
prisma halo
👉 🚽
coral basin
👌
tawny briar
sup
hexed roost
dude, use general
this chat is for Dusk and seeing as the lone dev is taking care of his new baby, there isn't going to be any news for a few days
tawny briar
ok
prisma halo
inb4 stolen by lurker
past scarab
Did Dave give away so many that everyone has one now?
prisma halo
maybe I should send that to a friend and see if they get it in time 🤔
atomic egret
worked for me
prisma halo
anyways time to head home
prisma halo
Posted it in a private channel with some friends in it, they're like, all away right now so if they get it I'll be very surprised
atomic egret
idk if it's even been taken by some lurker yet
woeful sonnet
Can I?
atomic egret
nice
dusty sinew
subtle bane
:/
peak igloo
most ppl here end up having dusk just cuz the giveaways at this point
slate edge
most of the active members have it :P
earnest jacinth
god fucking damnit
sacred sable
All dem keys.
sullen carbon
god dammit
peak igloo
312
tawny briar
what
jagged verge
Testing
...Huh. That's odd.
Anyway, I just saw the trailer for this game about an hour ago. It looks... promising.
Especially the first level in the pre-pre-pre alpha. The level design looks really good.
sullen carbon
The weapons are pretty cool
jagged verge
After reading the steam reviews for the Rise of the Triad game, and how they mentioned longstanding unfixed bugs, I'm a little bit less optimistic about this game.
I don't want to get my hopes up too much.
So much about this game, and a bunch of other things I've come across has me really excited.
hexed roost
Not the same team
jagged verge
But, I'm also seeing a number of potentially bad red flags.
hexed roost
Interceptor Entertainment is now defunkt and the lone dev of DUSK has nothing to do with that studio
jagged verge
Around, and in general.
hexed roost
As someone who worked on ROTT, I agree lol. That game was a fuckin' mess.
jagged verge
One dev? I was guessing that how little I'd heard about the game, and the (very good) outreach on videos and twitter was a good sign of a passionate developer.
hexed roost
Yep, @thorn trout is the lone soul forging DUSK with his own two hands.
jagged verge
I'm honestly comparing most small dev teams to what I learned about the early days of gaming, and comparing super small teams and indie devs to Tarn Adams, of Dwarf Fortress fame.
sullen carbon
Oh damn it's just Jefequeso?
I thought there might be at least a second or third involved
hexed roost
Just David, while Andrew does the music.
jagged verge
So, when I read that he did the music for Brutal Doom, was that the "metal music" WAD that was near the moddb page?
atomic egret
Look up the idkfa album @jagged verge
jagged verge
I've seen that sequence of letters somewhere before... Looking it up now. 👀
Holy crap, the file I'm seeing is over 700 megs!
woeful sonnet
Is there a way in the pre pre alpha to raise th sensitivity above the highest amount allowed in the menu?
thorn trout
erm... there is not. How come?
woeful sonnet
Because for me the highest amount is to low.
thorn trout
hmm
woeful sonnet
By the way I'm loving it.
thorn trout
makes me think the highest needs to go higher
woeful sonnet
I wouold like that. 😄
would
You could add a small box with the amount of mouse sensitvity you have and allow it to accept your own input
Also whilst bunny hopping in the first few hallways my head clips through the cieling.
obtuse apex
If u bunny hopped irl ur head would clip through the ceiling too
obtuse apex
He plays with a fightstick
tawny briar
wow
quiet rose
with my mouse on highest i do 1080s lol
obtuse apex
Cause ur not hardcore
obtuse apex
I do 1800000s with my mind
tawny briar
we believe in you
tawny briar
mad world plays
winged heart
yes
quiet rose
woeful sonnet
quiet rose
Yea... i do 1080s on that setting with barely a flick of my mouse
woeful sonnet
I don't
quiet rose
What is your mouse?
woeful sonnet
A very bland black wired mouse.
quiet rose
Thats probably why.
woeful sonnet
Ah
quiet rose
Maybe look into upping the DPI settings outside of DUSK?
woeful sonnet
Hmm...
doesn't look like its done much
I mean I can tolerate it, its just not entirely comfortable
Though in all fairness everyone who has played with sensitivity has found it painfully high
woeful sonnet
mild ginkgo
did you set a custom fov in the demo @woeful sonnet ??
that looks way higher fov than normal
i didnt even think the option went that high in the demo
zinc ingot
How can I play this game?
exotic ibex
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
zinc ingot
Okay thanks.
woeful sonnet
The fov is 150 which is the max
crimson folio
i play most fps on 800dpi with sensivity rly low
atomic egret
dpi change is usually a button on the mouse
but you said you have a shitty basic mouse so you probably dont have one
prisma halo
ｓｕｆｆｅｒｉｎｇ
I'm rewriting my Squirrel binding since I'm unhappy with it
it's now a lot cleaner and more elegant but it's still painful to rewrite
crimson folio
i have zowie ec2-a
woeful sonnet
Yeah.... I'm gonna get a new mouse soon. 😛 I do find it odd how expensive gaming mice are though.
vague egret
I use a wired corsair. $50
Pretty cheap as long as you avoid wireless
Deathadder is also a great option
woeful sonnet
I don't really consider 50$ cheap for a mouse.
And also I would never suffer with a wireless
I can't stand them
atomic egret
you could get a cheapo "gaming" mouse + kb combo
usually the mice in them aren't too bad
slate elk
i got a logitch g500s
vague egret
In reality any optical mouse will do. You might miss out on dpi settings
woeful sonnet
Ok.
Thanks
I just looked up gaming mice and the first one to pop up was 2500... What!!!!!
slate elk
dpi?
woeful sonnet
slate elk
woeful sonnet
No dollars
slate elk
woeful sonnet
Thanks
crimson folio
@woeful sonnet get a zowie theyre great for comp gaming
no useless rgb n shit
@woeful sonnet http://zowie.benq.com/en/product/mouse/ec/ec2-a.html
vague egret
Maybe move the mouse discussion to #bnnuy-and-the-jits
eternal oar
Dusk looks amazing please have my money now.
Sincerely, someone disappointed by the lack of Quakelike promised by Strafe's marketing campaign.
jade root
eh strafe is fun for what it is if you stop trying to compare it to obviously superior games
eternal oar
I'm not really
Just was expecting more Quake, not minimal Quake.
They advertised it really wrong.
I can enjoy it for what it is but Dusk now plis ok ty.
vague egret
They advertised and described the game from day 1 as a roguelite though.
jade root
^
vague egret
That has certain implications
jade root
i got exactly what i wanted
eternal oar
I expected Quake with procedural levels
jade root
the game does need heavy patching and i think pixel titans learned to actually beta test their games
eternal oar
I mean, they kept acting like it was a 1996 style shooter at the core, but it was the opposite of Quake-meets-rogue.
It was Rogue-with-some-Quake
They basically leaned heavily on the Quake nostalgia bit.
vague egret
You can't quake first then rogue second. Balancing would be a mess and it would be too easy
Rogue elements have to come first
eternal oar
I was hoping they'd prove me wrong on that.
ALl they'd have to do would be to like make health more plentiful so speed is a more valid strategy than backing up and funnelling everything into a line in a small corridor
It's not as fast as they made it look.
jade root
you can technically play like that, but only if you know what you are doing
earnest jacinth
performance wise it needs to be checked up aswelll
vague egret
If health and pickups were plentiful, it wouldn't be a roguelite. You are meant to die often and the game is never balanced in your favor
slate elk
apparently ps4 runs at 20 fps
jade root
haha
eternal oar
That is abysmal.
jade root
some how people with 980s and 970s are having performance issues, and im here with 765m running at perfect 60fps
eternal oar
I mean that's the one complaint I don't have, I get a reasonably smooth experience aside from the end of the level which stutters horribly
but at that point who cares it's an elevator trip
vague egret
My 980ti stays at 150fps at all times
earnest jacinth
it runs perfectly when not throttling
vague egret
I dunno what's up
earnest jacinth
but it almost always throttles
jade root
people just have bad pcs
earnest jacinth
it rises up heat fast
eternal oar
I put v-sync on and it seems to be okay
jade root
MUH 20 YEAR OLD LAPTOP CANT RUN STRAFE
eternal oar
I bet my laptop can run strafe
jade root
im on a laptop
eternal oar
Judging by how well my PC can run it
jade root
and it runs fine
vague egret
Still blows my mind people buy into "gaming" laptop snake oil
jade root
i have two computers, my gaming laptop which i take to college, then my actual desktop at home
both are pretty on par with each other
eternal oar
my laptop is for reading twitch chat when a game goes fullscreen and doesn't have windowed
and sometimes skype
If I had room for two monitors I probably wouldn't use it at all
earnest jacinth
btw how do you melee?
eternal oar
You don't.
slate elk
you dont
earnest jacinth
wot
slate elk
reading the steam discussions is infuriating
jade root
if you dont grab a weapon at the start you get a wrench
eternal oar
why not always wrench
jade root
idk
vague egret
Let's move the strafe discussion to #bnnuy-and-the-jits really doesn't belong here
ionic ruin
any info on release or first demo/preview?
jade root
!duskinfo
hollow ivyBOT
DUSK FAQ
- How much will it cost? Likely ~$20.
- Will it have multiplayer/co-op? Yes, VS mode will be available at release with co-op planned later on.
- Mod support? TBA
- p2p or dedicated server? TBA.
- Console release? Not planned at this time.
- When will it come out? When its done.
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
jade root
!keyfaq
all you need
the lead dev recently had a child too, so dev is at a crawl right now
ionic ruin
thanks!
jade root
👍
ionic ruin
so, looks like it is more real to wait till christmas (my hope!) or 2018...
jade root
prolly
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
flat inlet
!keyfaq
flat inlet
why cant i write?
slate elk
Bruh
vague egret
Stop messing with the filter
flat inlet
what filter? 😮
vague egret
The word filter
jade root
You'll thank me later
slate elk
Not making a good first impression
flat inlet
i never do
jade root
Not using "xD" has extended people's life span by 40 years
flat inlet
haha aiight
zinc yew
Babboo
formal turret
i thought david said there wouldn't be a chainsaw
also ikr lol
how many of these weapons are actually still in dusk
toxic wadi
holy fuck he mentions Chasm: The Rift
most of the ones i've seen exist in some form or another
urban sparrow
He has a firm grip on the butt cheek of old school fps.
fair mirage
lewd tbh
thorn trout
Chasm is a favorite of mine. It was the first game I ever bought for myself :)
thorn trout
Every once in awhile I bug Dave about rebooting Chasm
thorn trout
@toxic wadi heh yeah I think back on that sometimes and laugh at myself. Little did I know...
rebooting Chasm and Daikatana are my two master plans which will probably destroy whatever career I earn with Dusk
I mean, rebooting Blood would be sick too but lol that ip
toxic wadi
dude.. sign me up for any of those concepts. i would buy any of those instantly
thorn trout
👍
tawny briar
will there be big head mode in Dusk?
thorn trout
probably not unfortunately
thorn trout
yup :)
mild ginkgo
that is distinctly possible if you know what you are doing with mesh deformation
thorn trout
yeah hopefully ultimately literally anything will be able to be modded in
sullen carbon
Hey David, are you going to make some of the mobs in Dusk patrol eventually?
Love the game so far, I think having some enemies patrol would be pretty cool, and add some variety to it
thorn trout
Possibly, although thus far I don't think they'd really have much of a place or purpose in the levels I've made.
prisma halo
@thorn trout out of curiosity, what ever happened to the build in that video? That map isn't even in the project files anymore (I assume it was either A1M1 or A1M5)
thorn trout
it was even older than that. It was one of the first maps I made and I accidently did something to corrupt it.
prisma halo
ah
tawny briar
lol
gleaming berry
its just a room with @thorn trout original build
tawny briar
all the guns are done apparently
earnest relic
just call it dusk:shareware edition
(btw game should totally be shareware)
(just sayin)
serene needle
Can you guys pack as many of the old builds of dusk in dusk as you can, change them through the steam betas tab?
tawny briar
that would be cool
serene needle
I kinda want to make a DUSK comparisons video
tawny briar
ok
prisma halo
I actually suggested that to David a while back, heh
there are four builds publicly available currently
they've been posted numerous times
tawny briar
where
tawny briar
wow
prisma halo
DuskFramerateTest:
https://mega.nz/#!eVYgxbyD!t1OSJEJsM9kmnrbG4LlGT7KQa_fODvFQ7OG-lDxppIM
DuskLevelDemo:
https://mega.nz/#!SEJ3xbxJ!LXPFwbaBEb9AfDNd4GZx-h0SVOeDfvGUvhRdVgKGVWQ
DuskSuperEarlyBuild:
https://mega.nz/#!CBBnXKAD!05NfzYhZUbB59ySk93rDhSJgif4S1IklH1c9DUncr7s
DuskTestLevel:
https://mega.nz/#!jEJ0jSbb!1dUQDStwW6zvKa0fcytyQ-4AeDBmeBlMBzmvTOq8h8Y
You'll also need this patch I made for DuskLevelDemo: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240432519990738944/271520095107416066/patch.zip (it lets you use all the weapons, some aren't placed in the map)
I've lost count of how many times I've posted these lol
just remember that they don't represent Dusk in its current state AT ALL
they're hugely different
mild ginkgo
yeah they have absolutely nothing to do with dusk in its current state
dusk quail
i could mirror it
prisma halo
I can't since I'm at TAFE, someone else will have to download them and reupload
pastel venture
mega is the greatest site known to man
mild ginkgo
please do not even begin to think that
earnest relic
if someone could do that it would be greaaaat
pastel venture
which one is the bestest
mild ginkgo
none
earnest relic
id be fine with just the test level honeslty
prisma halo
I think the DuskTestLevel one is actually the least playable
wait no that's DuskLevelDemo nvm
dusk quail
May i link a mediafire for other people that might not like mega
thorn trout
we linkin Dusk alpha builds again?
tawny briar
ya
prisma halo
it happens a lot
thorn trout
not representative of current version yadda yadda yadda
earnest relic
better than no dusk
mild ginkgo
i disagree
dusk quail
lol
mild ginkgo
i think you would be better off waiting for dusk
prisma halo
^
mild ginkgo
no need to taint your pallette
earnest relic
waiting is hard
prisma halo
those early builds are merely for passing curiosity and for research into the game's development process
radiant venture
I'm so curious of the current build :c
earnest relic
same
prisma halo
plus they contain some cut content that can be ripped out and modded back into the final game
tawny briar
same
mild ginkgo
@radiant venture soonTM
radiant venture
TM
exotic ibex
™
thorn trout
Personally I think you'd be better off waiting for actual Dusk yeah, but FREEDOM OF DUSK BUILDS
mild ginkgo
oh does that work?
prisma halo
yeah
mild ginkgo
cool
prisma halo
soon:tm: gives you soon™
tawny briar
ya
prisma halo
FREE THE BUILDS
tawny briar
ya
prisma halo
Looking through the files in those builds is actually a lot of fun
tawny briar
all builds are equal
prisma halo
along with comparing them against the current build, asset-wise
earnest relic
oh. dint know the game was made in unity
pastel venture
the totem is amazing
prisma halo
Seems to surprise a lot of people
tawny briar
ya
thorn trout
yeah that's why I released them, and eventually we want to release like literally ALL the dusk builds (probably awhile after release)
thorn trout
but also they kinda suck so :P
prisma halo
the totem actually had another form
the amulet
it's not in any public early builds though
earnest relic
will the source code be released as well?
prisma halo
it's present in the pre pre pre alpha though, but unused
thorn trout
also a third form: the claw
serene needle
@prisma halo are you the hero Dusk doesn't want, But needs?
prisma halo
I thought the claw was the amulet
they have the same model as far as I can tell, at least
pastel venture
dusk-defrag 😉
thorn trout
naw amulet was like the earliest version, but it looked and acted just like the totem
pastel venture
makes me want to replay q1
prisma halo
agh I made the claw video unlisted on my youtube channel
now I have to sign in
that's the claw when patched back in
it does have the shotgun-like attack from the totem too, but I couldn't get that working
pastel venture
1 request i have, make the mouse sensitivity adjustable with a numerical entry box so we can get really specific with it
mild ginkgo
it has that in current builds
pastel venture
oh, i was watching some gameplay vids and didnt see it
serene needle
dude the old ar was cool
prisma halo
Yeah, the pre pre pre alpha is SUUUUUPER old now
current builds have a ton more stuff
brand-new menus too
someone yell at dave to get that new build out
pastel venture
yea this video was posted in Jan of this year
tawny briar
plz
radiant venture
dav pls
tawny briar
plz we beg
serene needle
nah let him take his time
earnest relic
oh i like bolt action rifle
serene needle
as long as it isn't out next year it'll be fine
earnest relic
not enough bolt actions in FPS
mild ginkgo
@pastel venture the game has a fully featured .ini
radiant venture
the bolt action rifle is powerful
mild ginkgo
bob = 1
; always run toggle
alwaysrun = 1
; mouse inversion
inverty = 0
; mouse sensitivity
mousesensitivity = 0.4451664
; saturation
saturation = 0
; brightness
brightness = 0
; contrast
contrast = 0
; hue
hue = 0```things like that
earnest relic
sure railguns are fun but its not as cool as a good ol hunter's rifle
mild ginkgo
so you can get as specific as you want with your config
tawny briar
nice
mild ginkgo
even volume settings go to 7 decimals
prisma halo
not storing them as doubles so you can get 14 decimal places
prisma halo
the best crosshair option is the S
mild ginkgo
as well as RGBA
serene needle
The Cool S
earnest relic
that S yknow the one
mild ginkgo
; crosshair red tint
crtint = 255
; crosshair green tint
cgtint = 255.0
; crosshair blue tint
cbtint = 255
; crosshair alpha
catint = 255
nice
serene needle
mhm
pastel venture
rofl thats amazing
serene needle
Wait
prisma halo
that's the best crosshair
serene needle
Do you have the new build @mild ginkgo
mild ginkgo
i help out on duskworld.
prisma halo
he has DuskWorld
tawny briar
bye see you tomorrow
exotic ibex
ya
mild ginkgo
ya
jade root
sup
serene needle
ya
pastel venture
whats the armor system rn?
jade root
Morale
serene needle
Morale
jade root
the mp
earnest relic
ooh
mild ginkgo
its just deathmatch etc
exotic ibex
its gonna be$4.99 dlc :^)
dusk quail
lol
earnest relic
FU
serene needle
Will DUSKworld be acessable to owners of dusk
steep magnet
nooo, like quakeworld
mild ginkgo
@prisma halo you said you liked #5?
prisma halo
crosshair?
mild ginkgo
yea
prisma halo
I don't remember what #5 was
earnest relic
i assume that duskworld is what i heard about alpha keys being given on discord?
prisma halo
nope
mild ginkgo
oh i misread that as 5, you said S
prisma halo
the alpha keys are for the "Pre Pre Pre Alpha"
hexed roost
nooo, duskworld is extremely early in development
prisma halo
which is the QuakeCon endless mode + a demo level
(there's also some music from episode 1 in the files, but unused, but you didn't hear that from me)
earnest relic
game dosent look in pre pre pre pre pre alpha
prisma halo
it's super stable for how early it is, yeah
earnest relic
the first level seems completed. once you start really making levels i assume the game is well on its way to me
prisma halo
the level in the pre pre pre alpha isn't even a level from any episode
it's just a demo map
mild ginkgo
yeah its not really part of the main game
dusk quail
its fun to play tho
earnest relic
well i mean the level in the video on the channel of new blood
prisma halo
wait until you guys see E1MS
earnest relic
with the interview thing
serene needle
is it?
exotic ibex
i cant wait for you to fall down some stairs for revealing theres a secret level
prisma halo
fav level in episode 1 so far
exotic ibex
burn the zombie
dusk quail
if i cant beat a level under a min its a bad game
pastel venture
tru
prisma halo
Yeah episode 1 is almost finished, last I checked
the pre pre pre alpha is from ages ago though
earnest relic
seems like the game is in beta then
exotic ibex
you're a beta
serene needle
when are they gonna do the new build?
jade root
sometime
prisma halo
whenever Dave decides to put it on Steam
pastel venture
is mapping going to be a thing?
prisma halo
!duskinfo
hollow ivyBOT
DUSK FAQ
- How much will it cost? Likely ~$20.
- Will it have multiplayer/co-op? Yes, VS mode will be available at release with co-op planned later on.
- Mod support? TBA
- p2p or dedicated server? TBA.
- Console release? Not planned at this time.
- When will it come out? When its done.
mild ginkgo
@pastel venture We're trying for it to be, theres a lot of stuff to work out on that
pastel venture
id be hyped to make some maps for dusk mp
exotic ibex
no one loves endless :(
mild ginkgo
yeah i hope so too
prisma halo
With the SDK I'm working on, if you can map for Quake, you can map for Dusk
earnest relic
well. whatever tool they use to make the maps right now
prisma halo
same map format
exotic ibex
im all alone in my endless room
earnest relic
probably works for a level editor
prisma halo
Currently Dusk's levels are designed with ProBuilder
mild ginkgo
map format is a tricky one.
prisma halo
but it's non-free and not really ideal for custom mapping
mild ginkgo
and also requires unity
earnest relic
ah
mild ginkgo
which isnt really a mapping tool to begin with
i have high hopes for dusk mapping, but only time will tell
exotic ibex
im gonna make really shitty sam-esque dusk maps!
prisma halo
Serious Sam 3 levels of bad?
exotic ibex
idk about that
mild ginkgo
port TFE to dusk pls
radiant venture
port Quake to Dusk
prisma halo
yes and no
radiant venture
what's DAWN?
serene needle
tf dawn?
prisma halo
Dawn = the SDK for Dusk I'm working on
radiant venture
ah
serene needle
ahh mk
prisma halo
for Dusk? Nah
exotic ibex
he isnt special enough for colored names
prisma halo
I have access to development files to work on the SDK, but I'm not an official dev
mild ginkgo
the only official devs are andrew and david
zombie is the helper elf on sp, im the mp helper elf
prisma halo
Helper Elf role pls
slate elk
elves are cute
mild ginkgo
dont @ him
exotic ibex
i did it
prisma halo
it had to be done
mild ginkgo
anyways its a joke
exotic ibex
i wanna see you nerds with that role
prisma halo
inb4 the madman actually does it
prisma halo
inverted mortar detonation?
mild ginkgo
mortar detonates grenades in reverse order of creation
prisma halo
heh
mild ginkgo
because it seeks them in hierarchy
prisma halo
wait
mild ginkgo
instead of a proper order
mild ginkgo
i think so, this is just what david said, i didnt actually look at the code
prisma halo
what
mild ginkgo
im assuming its just gameobject.find
prisma halo
nani
mild ginkgo
nani the fuck
mild ginkgo
yeah i know, there a bunch of ways you could do it
prisma halo
@thorn trout ping for relevance
mild ginkgo
but yeah, they totes detonate in reverse order :P
prisma halo
future reference
thorn trout
it's really easy to fix. I literally just have to change one array call.
mild ginkgo
yeah, its not a big deal
mild ginkgo
i just think its funny
thorn trout
erm I think it is gameobject.find
mild ginkgo
ill look one sec
prisma halo
better way would be to have a List<GameObject> and add the grenades to that list when you spawn them
thorn trout
how come?
mild ginkgo
its not SLOW, the problem is it triggers garbage collection
prisma halo
I'm pretty sure it searches the entire scene hierarchy
which makes it slow for scenes with a ton of objects
mild ginkgo
yeah thats fair
prisma halo
(Dusk has a ton of objects due to ProBuilder)
Yeah even the Unity wiki makes a note of it
For performance reasons, it is recommended to not use this function every frame.
lol it has that exact line twice on the same page
apparently GameObject.FindWithTag is the safer route
so I guess if you wanted to use a GameObject.Find* variant you could tag the grenades with PlayerGrenade or something and do that
prisma halo
I think that might actually be even slower, heh
Please note that this function is very slow. It is not recommended to use this function every frame. In most cases you can use the singleton pattern instead.
yup
thorn trout
ahh I see
prisma halo
I think that may actually be a potential cause for why firing off all of your grenades and then detonating causes the game to freeze briefly
mild ginkgo
that wasnt my goof to begin with, i just liked the reverse detonate :P
prisma halo
I initially thought it was the explosion radius calculation doing that
but if FindObjectsOfType is being used, that may be why instead
mild ginkgo
it hasnt frozen for me while doing that, even with haste
prisma halo
On a powerful computer it won't
it doesn't do it on my desktop PC, but on my laptop it freezes entirely
game normally runs at over 100fps on that machine, note
mild ginkgo
heh
prisma halo
I'll probably run some testing later
thorn trout
welp guess that's worth looking into then lol
mild ginkgo
the game runs so well for me i never even bothered thining about it :P
prisma halo
Heh
makes me wonder how much performance can be squeezed out of it after fixing the smaller issues
thorn trout
I'm guessing a lot actually. I think there are a lot of really dumb issues where I need to cache references and stuff like that.
Like I think there are parts of some big scripts where I use GetComponent several times for the same component in update, which is a huge no no
thorn trout
I'm gonna deal with it later into development after content creation is mostly done
earnest relic
they dont even try to make thair games small
thorn trout
since even in its crappy form right now it runs ok for the most part
earnest relic
oh yea lets put the mp3s just there taking half the fucking data
prisma halo
if you're lucky I'll finish Dawn before release and you won't have to worry about it
meager hedge
You guys want a funny joke?
" Repetitive level design, shoddy gun play and average visual were staple of 1990s shooters"
😭
meager hedge
that comment is like, a sin
prisma halo
I imagine it's sarcasm
prisma halo
making fun of Strafe being quite clearly not a 90s shooter
meager hedge
he's debating it with GGGMAN
prisma halo
on his Strafe review video I think
proper lotus
The Strafe Dev is debating with head Sonny Jim?
proper lotus
Based
thorn trout
aww I'm flattered :)
prisma halo
I found the comment
it has some filtered words so I'm going to edit the screenshot before posting here
prisma halo
Strafe's difficulty felt artificial at best
crimson folio
that's what roguelikes are
artificial difficulty
it's all based on luck
at least the ones that have random level generation
vague egret
strafe criticism belongs on their discord or on their forum. not in dusk chat
glass mauve
What is the storyline of Dusk? Why does Duskman hate triangle head redneck men?
crimson folio
l.ol
jade root
all we know is that the cultists worship eldritch gods and you gotta stop them
proper lotus
Outlast 2 but better
crystal vessel
Outlast 2 but a completely different game
glass mauve
So what you're saying is that Dusk is like Outlast 2 but with somersaults?
jade root
@thorn trout how do you want me to handle these kids?
we can mute, kick, or ban
your option
rotund glen
slap
rotund glen
you talk shit bout dusk you get slapp'od
sullen carbon
Mmmm kinky
Dusk is the absolute worst ever
(Haven't been this pumped for a game since L4D2)
mild ginkgo
imagine being hyped for l4d2
that game shouldve just been dlc
it was fun
but it shouldnt have been a full game
hexed roost
the gore system was incredible and easily my favorite part of the game
i wish valve would have done more with that honestly
atomic egret
Not in Australia.
mild ginkgo
rofl
hexed roost
you got the crazy CS:S weapons though
mild ginkgo
it looked great for the time
hexed roost
it's still ~fairly~ good
atomic egret
Uh
prisma halo
I actually never had L4D2 censored
atomic egret
I don't wanna be a backseat mod but...
prisma halo
got it while using a VPN 👌
atomic egret
quiet rose
prisma halo
@thorn trout some people have pointed out that Dusk's weapon viewmodels seem super low-poly, and looking at them again I think they're right. I dunno if they're similar to the polycounts of the guns in Quake but for some reason they at least look lower poly
sullen carbon
Because L4D series kicks ass
prisma halo
they could probably do with a slight polycount raise but I dunno, maybe even a texture tweak could improve it
thorn trout
@prisma halo They're pretty similar to the polycount of the ones in Quake. The difference, to be frank, is that QUake's texture/model artists were a lot better than I am
I've done the best I can with my limited artistic abilities
fossil slate
sTRAFE IS HARDER THAN i THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, EVEN AFTER THE UPDATE
prisma halo
earnest relic
i quite like how pressing the reload key just flips the gun around
woeful sonnet
I think the weapons and enemies look fine my problem is more the environments.
There's something about the way the textures look that just makes it all feel.... off but i can't put m finger on it.
earnest relic
cant say i know what you mean since well...dont have the game
gleaming berry
SOON
exotic ibex
soon?
atomic egret
do you think he's talking about pax build?
slate elk
soon ™ ?
atomic egret
yes
crimson folio
lol "soon"
He said that months ago when the PAX build was supposed to come out at the end of March I think
quiet rose
He was probably saying SOON to the guy not having the game 
crimson folio
I was probably not talking the guy having the game 🤔
fair mirage
NOOS
atomic egret
aye bomt, pax build was supposed to come 1st of april
mild ginkgo
no it wasnt
quiet rose
Pax build never had a set date to be released.
atomic egret
it had "april" release date
atomic egret
I dont really understand why it isnt out yet though since it's already done? why can't david just release the build from pax onto steam
quiet rose
There are reasons.
hexed roost
Dave's moving, David just had a child, the build needs to be the best it can possibly be before it's given out to the public.
SOON™
atomic egret
but why
hexed roost
You can't rush greatness.
dreamy tree
Implying people actually give feedback and not just play the game
hexed roost
Realistically if everyone who has a key got EP1 without it exceeding expectations you could run into serious problems.
You don't want to kill peoples' expectations and hopes before the game is even out.
There's nothing wrong with taking your time to insure the project is as best as it can possibly be.
exotic ibex
id rather get a polished build of E1 than a broken build considering the likelyhood of that build getting patches is low.
dreamy tree
You know what happened with Phil Fish, he got to show his game to the public and the first person that came found a bug and he had to restart the whole thing
What a way to show it
hexed roost
Don't forget it isn't just EP1, it's GUI stuff, weapon sounds, quality-of-life improvements, etc.
atomic egret
but more glitches = better speedrun times :^)
prisma halo
I mean, the game is pretty damn stable from what I've played, but you never know
can't be too careful
dreamy tree
The bugs start showing up when people play it in mass
You can do a beta testing for as long as you want, but until you actually get actual thousands of people playing it in such different ways, there's nothing set
flat inlet
Woke up to this today 😃
waxen crane
noice
earnest relic
thats a duckin metal idea
atomic egret
Yeah fits in real good
earnest relic
yea