dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[stiff badger]

and not memefactory

[vague egret]

F

[fair mirage]

f indeed

[red abyss]

meh

[austere dawn]

What I miss?

[vague egret]

video games

memes

bullshit

the usual

[barren valve]

@thorn trout is endlessmode gonna have co-op eventually?

[thorn trout]

I dunno, hopefully, but it will definitely be post release.

[barren valve]

aight. hope it does

[thorn trout]

yeah me too :)

[thorn trout]

Duskmatch is starting to feel like an actual thing

goats can bunnyhop around and shoot each other

[barren valve]

? that multiplayer?

[thorn trout]

yeah

[barren valve]

GOATS!

I LOVE GOATS

[prisma halo]

Whenever a goat is gibbed the game should log 'goatse' to the console

[barren valve]

no joke though. i fuckin' love goats

[thorn trout]

well, you get to play one in duskmatch!@

[barren valve]

yee yee. full on or humanoid? either is gr8

[prisma halo]

Meat Lass player model when

[thorn trout]

umm, probably at some point actually. I don't see why not

maybe secret hidden somehow

[prisma halo]

Heh

Type "are you happy now zombie" in chat and it unlocks

[barren valve]

whats meat lass?

[prisma halo]

Cut enemy

[barren valve]

oh

[prisma halo]

From the pre new blood days

At least I don't think new blood was involved at that time

David or Dave could correct that

[thorn trout]

yeah that was before New Blood

[barren valve]

whats it look like?

[thorn trout]

it was Dave who suggested the change

he didn't like the design

[prisma halo]

Kill the heretic

[thorn trout]

ehh I think he was right. Leatherneck is a lot cooler

[barren valve]

what it look leik fam

[prisma halo]

Well of course, every enemy in Dusk currently is ten times better than the meat lass

[jade root]

lolno

[prisma halo]

But hey I gotta stay in character

[radiant venture]

dude, it would be dope if Baphomet was the final boss

[jade root]

meatlass 4 lyfe

[prisma halo]

I'd post a screenshot of the meat lass but I'm not home yet

[jade root]

nah the final boss will be more lovecraftian id imagine

[prisma halo]

So the emoji will have to hold you over

[radiant venture]

hmm

[prisma halo]

[barren valve]

kk

[radiant venture]

I'm ok with that

[jade root]

since e3 is all lovecraft

[radiant venture]

I haven't played e3

[barren valve]

jeez thats hard to see

[jade root]

no one has

[prisma halo]

Nobody has played E3 lol

It doesn't exist yet

[thorn trout]

final boss will be Dave

[radiant venture]

then HOW DO YOU KNO

[jade root]

because david has said it

plenty of times

[radiant venture]

maybe david's pulling your leg

:^)

[jade root]

nah

david cant lie

he a good christian boi

[prisma halo]

final boss is dave throwing explosive copies of rott 2013 at you

[barren valve]

dvae and david. so confusing

[prisma halo]

while playing snippets of him talking about rott from various events

[exotic ibex]

david is a good innocent man who learns a new thing about the internet each week

just from our every day conversations

[prisma halo]

lmao

[barren valve]

dave and david are two seperate peeps right?

[prisma halo]

Yes

[jade root]

david is working on dusk, dave is pr guy

[prisma halo]

Dave is El Oshcuro
David is jefequeso

[jade root]

some people have been here since the beginning and dont understand that still

[thorn trout]

I am super bad at lying actually :P

[barren valve]

same

[exotic ibex]

i've never found out how to pronounce jefequeso.

[jade root]

yeah i can tell you are lying when you say dusk will be good

[thorn trout]

hay fay kay so

^^^

[exotic ibex]

i just pronounce it as hefe kay so

yeye

[barren valve]

kek

[exotic ibex]

not a bad name at all now that i think about it

almost as good as herpes hank

[jade root]

im still gonna say jeff e kweeso

[barren valve]

^

[prisma halo]

^

[jade root]

cause its fun to say KWEESO

[radiant venture]

also @thorn trout I've played some Dusk, and done some demo ILs

the movement is really interesting

the movement is fun but handling the jerry cans is really frustrating

also jumping upside down is 👌

[exotic ibex]

he may have tweaked it a bit. that build we have is an old one

[radiant venture]

ah

[exotic ibex]

i do know jumping upside down was been changed a bit

he'll answer that when he sees it

[radiant venture]

also, one thing I have to note

there should be an autoswitch option imo

[thorn trout]

autoswitch option?

[radiant venture]

yeah

so you don't switch weapons as you pick them up

[barren valve]

id asume a last weapon used key is gonna be added?

[red abyss]

Q?

[barren valve]

oi wait nvm. forgot is already in but nugged

bugged*

[thorn trout]

yeah I'll add an option for turning autoswitch off

hopefully actual level speedruns won't involve quite so much speedy handling of physics objects :)

[barren valve]

what about binding each weapon to certian keys?

[thorn trout]

that is, speedruns of the actual levels

yeah all controls can be rebound

[barren valve]

aight

anything i can go off of thats already added besides the alpha version?

[thorn trout]

what do you mean?

[barren valve]

like is there somthing i can go off of that has all the options that're in the current build so i can avoid asking shit thats already added

[radiant venture]

also GJ on the SSG

it's juicy as fuck

[prisma halo]

@barren valve like a feature list?

[barren valve]

yee

[prisma halo]

Just ask Dave to post some menu screenshots again or something

[thorn trout]

there's a TON that's changed since the prealpha. Hopefully we'll have ep1 out in the next week or so so you can just see firsthand :)

[radiant venture]

Kreygasm

[barren valve]

PogChamp

[radiant venture]

@mild ginkgo did you know that if you strafe to the left, and move the mouse to the right, you turn to the right while aiming to the center of the "strafing circle"

[mild ginkgo]

yes

i did

i did a stream explaining dusk strafing for a while

people were confused by that

[exotic ibex]

its different

i dont like different

ban different

[radiant venture]

different from what?

[exotic ibex]

quake

[radiant venture]

is it tho?

[exotic ibex]

yes

[radiant venture]

not really?

[exotic ibex]

it feels different at least

[radiant venture]

you don't get speed while on the ground, and you hold W

that's the biggest difference mechanically

[exotic ibex]

yeah you do. if you stand still you have no speed.

you press w

speed

👍🏻

[mild ginkgo]

lol

[radiant venture]

dick

[mild ginkgo]

he means groundstrafes

[exotic ibex]

o i thoguht

we were talking aboot bhopping

[radiant venture]

if you strafe on the ground in Quake, you move faster than normal running speed

[exotic ibex]

ignore me. im a dumbshit

ban hank

[radiant venture]

we are?

[mild ginkgo]

go do a 100m sprint :)

[exotic ibex]

i thought we were

[radiant venture]

we are 😄

[exotic ibex]

in Q1 and Q2 i can hold left or right + jump for bhops n speed. in dusk it doesnt work like that

gotta hold forward too

thus different

fux u sir

[radiant venture]

it's like that in Q2

you hold W in Q2

[exotic ibex]

oh fuck ye yer right. i forgot.

im used to CPMA and Q1

[prisma halo]

oh and @thorn trout some assets didn't text-ify

[exotic ibex]

im even more of a moron

please ban me

[radiant venture]

you often hold W in CPMA :^)

[exotic ibex]

i mean

you dont need to

[prisma halo]

you might be able to fix that by deleting the "Library" folder and reopening the project, it'll do a reimport and convert any un-textified assets

[exotic ibex]

it helps if you want da speed do

[radiant venture]

you don't need to, but you want speed

so you do it anyway

[exotic ibex]

FUCK YOU THIS CONVERSATION SUCKS

[radiant venture]

you suck

[exotic ibex]

i know

;_;

[radiant venture]

so do I :^)

[thorn trout]

hmm, it shouldn't be syncing library

[exotic ibex]

but i have the high score in endless

[prisma halo]

(also you might wanna add obj/ to .gitignore)

I mean Library on your end

[radiant venture]

I'm horrible at endless

[exotic ibex]

just git gud me fam

[prisma halo]

it likely prevented Unity from converting a few of the files

since they were different versions

[thorn trout]

ahh ok

[prisma halo]

whenever I import it on my end it converts them though, so I assume deleting Library would fix it

[radiant venture]

I don't need to :^)

[exotic ibex]

i get the high score in endless because speedrunning is too hard for me

cuz im s00p3r noop

[radiant venture]

are the military looking dudes magnetically attracted to jerry cans?

[exotic ibex]

a question for the ages

[thorn trout]

erm

not as far as I know

maybe they developed properties on their own

[radiant venture]

or at least their rifles 😄

[thorn trout]

lol

[radiant venture]

they really like shooting the jerry cans in my hand

all the time 😄

[mild ginkgo]

thats why the run includes wide serpentine there

as a safe strat

and hold it above your head

[radiant venture]

yeah 😄

I can see why you do that

[mild ginkgo]

ALSO the fastest route

you can actually make the jump into the glass window using the fuel can explosion, and not have to fumble with the crouch jump

but its very unreliable

its improved in the newest dusk physics

because explosions ONLY move you upward in alpha

no other direction

[prisma halo]

@thorn trout those new sounds are 👌

[thorn trout]

the new weapon sounds?

[prisma halo]

yeah

[thorn trout]

thanks! Team effort between Andrew and I :)

[atomic egret]

pax build when

[prisma halo]

the pax build is already old lol

[atomic egret]

that's why I changed my message to pax build instead of new build

it feels so wrong with jab having power

I'm scared

whoops general

[hexed roost]

reminder

[prisma halo]

2 days

２　ｄａｙｓ

[atomic egret]

ok mut since you have unlimited power now yell at dave for me if it's not out by then thx

[hexed roost]

do nOT FREAKING CALL ME THAT!!!

:angrey:

[atomic egret]

what do I say for short

[hexed roost]

um

that's a really good point

[atomic egret]

typing unmutual every time is 2much

[hexed roost]

tual

ual

[prisma halo]

🤔

[red abyss]

Unmal?

[hexed roost]

NDA violation prepare to be exterminated

[prisma halo]

text debob [ L O C A T E D ]

[red abyss]

Unmu?

[hexed roost]

don't worry

i'll post that picture again if we don't have the build by 4/20 lol

[atomic egret]

seriously though why isn't zombie at least janitor

[prisma halo]

there's plenty of them already

that's probably why

[red abyss]

Mom's spaghetti

[atomic egret]

are there though

cause all the ones that I knew were janitor are mod now

[hexed roost]

we need at least 14

[prisma halo]

now that jab's mod we might need more

[hexed roost]

like the ROTT community hub

16

[radiant venture]

HOLY SHIT! you can boost grenades with explosions

that's really fucking cool

[mild ginkgo]

yep!

fun fact, in the current build, right click detonates grenades

and if you fire multiple, they explode in reverse order you fired

so newest first

[radiant venture]

it would be cool if it was normal order

you fire a grenade to the ground, fire another, detonate the first and boost the newest

[mild ginkgo]

(i think that might get changed)

[radiant venture]

btw

crouch jumping isn't that hard when you get the rythm

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

the new build also has hold to crouch

instead of toggle

well its an option

so it will be easier

ive encouraged the correct order grenades, we'll see if david does it

[atomic egret]

oh really?

that's good

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, he didnt intend them to be in reverse order

[atomic egret]

I meant the crouch options but I guess that's good too

[mild ginkgo]

oh lol

yeah you can do either kind

[atomic egret]

more options is always good

[radiant venture]

ooo 1:02

[mild ginkgo]

:)))

record is 56

my pb is 59

[radiant venture]

vid?

[atomic egret]

still good though

[mild ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LW0OVwF9aE

Sill has plenty of mistakes

[radiant venture]

how come he goes to the left when going to the red door?

[mild ginkgo]

dunno, mine was is not that way

and i think its faster to not go left

[radiant venture]

I go right, and into the small shortcut

[mild ginkgo]

yes

me too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvM7HE7El0

ive since gotten 59, but i didnt bother recording

but the point is, you can see i go right

then into the shortcut

[radiant venture]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

and its insanely fast

[radiant venture]

also, how come most videos start after you load the level?

[mild ginkgo]

because you get the fast start by loading the level and holding forward

instead of being locked in place

[radiant venture]

ohohoooo reaaallly

[mild ginkgo]

HAVE YOU BEEN DOING IT LOCKED IN PLACE?

[radiant venture]

I didn't know that

yeah?

[mild ginkgo]

thats a free like 4 seconds lol

[radiant venture]

oh ._.

[prisma halo]

technically counts as a glitch run though

:^)

[mild ginkgo]

i guess so

but its the way you reset when you mess up

[radiant venture]

let's rename it to "Almost Glitchless"

[mild ginkgo]

roflmao

in fairness, that lock thing is super buggy

if you go back afterwards and touch that spot it will lock you in place

[atomic egret]

yep

[prisma halo]

is it done with like, a probuilder trigger or something?

hell why do I even need to ask

[mild ginkgo]

dunno, youd know best lol

[prisma halo]

I can check

[atomic egret]

looking at bread's old wr is wheh

it's pretty bad

[prisma halo]

heh, there's a holy health right on the player's spawn

in A1M2 (demo map)

that explains the sudden sound effect when playing

and yes, it's done via trigger

a tiny sphere

and the player spawns above it

so if you move slightly you won't hit it

[mild ginkgo]

yeah thats why holding w works, 100% air control lol

[prisma halo]

the sphere

you can see the holy health there too

the mess of cogs and that screen is the player

[mild ginkgo]

that explain the starting hp

[prisma halo]

so yeah that explains a lot

[radiant venture]

holy fuck this just became much harder

[prisma halo]

it's an oversight

[mild ginkgo]

interesting that the player in that level has the new UI components

[radiant venture]

with the lock skip

[mild ginkgo]

harder how?

[prisma halo]

well it's just a prefab

[radiant venture]

feels more sudden 😄

[prisma halo]

so it would've gained any new components added to it

[mild ginkgo]

ahaha

well youve got a free 4 seconds

so you should get WR soon

thatd put you 2 seconds away from WR

[prisma halo]

heh, the pickup script even has a "no sound" option

but it's off

so I guess it's intentional?

[mild ginkgo]

roflmao

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren valve]

that ar secret is the only one i havent found

[prisma halo]

think build engine games

[atomic egret]

just got glitch wr down by another second

[prisma halo]

think duke3d

what was a common way to hide secrets in that game?

[atomic egret]

I'm formulating a theory about it but I have to test some stuff

[barren valve]

never played or seen duke3d

[prisma halo]

oh okay uhh

well in Duke3D

if you saw a crack in a wall

[barren valve]

oh

[prisma halo]

you could probably blow it up

9 times out of 10

like that crack there

behind the pigcop

[barren valve]

and you can rj with teh reveter? i was only able to with the morter

[prisma halo]

you can rocketjump with the riveter yeah

for me it's the opposite, I can rj easily with the riveter but I find it really hard with the mortar

[barren valve]

yeah its hard with the morter. and only tried riveter in endless mode and didnt boost me at all

[mild ginkgo]

the riv is much easier to jump with

but in the current build, its much easier

with both

also if you use unity he has a debug for rocket jump factor 👌

.4 is a shit jump

.6 is a good one

[radiant venture]

seconds?

[mild ginkgo]

nah its just an arbitrary number that is multiplied into your rocket jump

but .4 is the minimum height jump you can get

.6 is HUGELY better

[prisma halo]

wait so .3 would give you no jump?

nani?

[mild ginkgo]

no i just dont think its possible to get under .4

go try it

[prisma halo]

oh I see what you mean

nvm

[mild ginkgo]

yeah its weird

but the rocket jumping is much much better

just shoot at the ground 1 foot in front of you while moving forward

and youll go like twice the height of a quake rocket jump

lets just say, in aerowalk, you can jump from the lowest point all the way up to Rail in one jump

that might give you a good idea @radiant venture

[radiant venture]

yeah

can you activate the last button with the riveter?

[atomic egret]

no

only hitscans iirc

[radiant venture]

ah

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah in my run youll see i setup quickswap between pistol and riveter

then while standing on the wall i hit the button with pistol

ideally youd use the hunting rifle because its 100% accurate

[radiant venture]

I jump through the window

[mild ginkgo]

also i believe crossbow can hit it, which isnt in the run, but theoretically you could shoot through the entire level to open the switch

[radiant venture]

so I don't grab it

[mild ginkgo]

that crossbow tech will DEFINITELY be in the final run

its too good, it penetrates the entire level

yeah the rifle is not in the run

thats why i had to use pistol

[prisma halo]

I think the crossbow actually has a limit

i tried shooting the wooden plank from below to get the sword

[mild ginkgo]

the crossbow doesnt have a distance limit, but a SPEED limit

[prisma halo]

and it cancelled out before reaching it

[mild ginkgo]

it slows down slowly

[prisma halo]

hmm

[mild ginkgo]

and when it reaches a certain speed it despawns

which has been removed in mp

[atomic egret]

routing for the whole game is gonna be wheh

I've never done a run that's over like 3 minutes before

[mild ginkgo]

idk if he made that change in sp

also be ready for crossbow jumps :^)

the crossbow pushes you in the negative vector of your aim

so if you look down and shoot, youll get a small boost upwards

which means less self damage if you need to make a small jump, and dont wasnt to RJ

and theoretically i think you can use it with backwards bunnyhopping and shooting to gain more speed

the crossbow is a big deal

[atomic egret]

http://i.imgur.com/PmdhIAa.png oh god why would anyone say this

[mild ginkgo]

well, they hate themselves

so thats why

[prisma halo]

ew

actually no #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[atomic egret]

if david added procgen to dusk I might actually have an aneurysm

[crimson folio]

What's the matter, you don't want "infinite replayability"? ;^)

[atomic egret]

grrrrr

[prisma halo]

@atomic egret what, you don't want Dusk Warrior 2? :^)

[atomic egret]

I'n getting angry just thinking about it

[crimson folio]

I'm still mad about Shadow Warrior 2. Like I didn't even have high expectations and I was still disappointed

[radiant venture]

1:00

we're getting there

I just need to learn how to strafe properly :p

[atomic egret]

just gotta shave off 5 more seconds now

good luck

[mild ginkgo]

he'll get it no problem

[atomic egret]

well if he can conquer quake I don't see why not

[radiant venture]

the boost to the window is really fun

[atomic egret]

"quake"

quake 2 so not really quake

strogg

that's what they should have just called it

[radiant venture]

contrary to popular belief

strogg is quake now

[atomic egret]

NEY

[radiant venture]

the odd man out is Quake 1

[atomic egret]

nuh uh that just makes quake 2 retcon

[radiant venture]

nah-ah

[crimson folio]

iirc they named it "Quake 2" because they couldn't come up with a better name

[atomic egret]

they did

[radiant venture]

but they still kept on with strogg theme in the other games that followed a single player narrative

[atomic egret]

they could have called it

quiver

[mild ginkgo]

now the BIG thing we need to convince david of

[atomic egret]

ha

funny

[mild ginkgo]

is to add demos :)))))))

[atomic egret]

ba dum tss

[radiant venture]

^

[crimson folio]

I think you mean Shareware

[atomic egret]

no

[mild ginkgo]

its very possible to do demos tbh

[atomic egret]

demos

like demo files

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

[atomic egret]

like recording demos soul

[mild ginkgo]

we're talking about speedruns

demos = best way to record

[crimson folio]

Oh, I thought we were talking about "Try 1 episode for free" kinda demo

[mild ginkgo]

it takes like zero hard drive space

instead of 4 hours of footage at 1080p

of your shit attempts

[radiant venture]

I'm 100% on board with this

[atomic egret]

that's why I use relive

just record the good ones after they happen

[mild ginkgo]

of course

[radiant venture]

relive?

[atomic egret]

once it gets longer though

more of a problem

[crimson folio]

that's what she said hohoho

[atomic egret]

it's the amd equivalent of shadowplay @radiant venture

[radiant venture]

ah ok

[mild ginkgo]

if he doesnt include them in the game (which, i think he could be convinced to add them ), we can always mod it in with Dawn

[atomic egret]

spose

[radiant venture]

I think the most frustrating part is picking up the jerry cans

[mild ginkgo]

easily

sometimes leathernecks blocking the passage is annoying

rarely happens

i mean after the red key

[radiant venture]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

at the bottom of that secret

[radiant venture]

I'm used to that shit tho :p

[mild ginkgo]

yeah after running quake id imagine

[radiant venture]

the gladiators in q2 are the most awful shitters

[atomic egret]

jerry can accuracy is probably the hardest thing I have to deal with on glitched

[radiant venture]

I can totally see that

[mild ginkgo]

I don't think there will be much of that in the actual game routimg

David wants to avoid it

[atomic egret]

why's that?

[radiant venture]

I appreciate that desicion

[mild ginkgo]

Because it's annoying

F

[atomic egret]

yeah that's true

[mild ginkgo]

But yeah I don't think he's actively avoiding it, but he did say 'hopefully runners won't have to deal with too many physics props '

But you never know how some crazy dude will end up routing it

[radiant venture]

I'm fine with it being used

but maybe make the hitbox for them a bit bigger?

[mild ginkgo]

Probably a good idea

Who's gonna get wr soap %?

:)

[radiant venture]

the second can is the worst

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah that one has issues

If you touch the barrel it's on you're fucked

[radiant venture]

wow, I'mma save this one

I somehow performed... something

[mild ginkgo]

Lol

This should be good

[radiant venture]

I'm gonna upload this to youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8j5x8mp4I

[mild ginkgo]

Ahahah

But yeah that window routing is in theory the best

[radiant venture]

I love that boost

[mild ginkgo]

Because if you land correctly you can keep the bunnyhop going

[radiant venture]

I just try to buttslide into the room

[mild ginkgo]

And then bunnyhop backwards out the window maintaining 100% air control and land in front of the basement door

Yeah it's not reliable to do

But possible

[atomic egret]

ooooh

a new route huh?

[mild ginkgo]

Well I've used that one in the past, I just haven't run since January

Also I routed gas can initially :p

[atomic egret]

never seen that one

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah because I never got a good run with it

You can See Me explain it to brfld like 2 hrs ago or something in chat

It's better than the other window

[atomic egret]

I'll have to try it next time I get the dusk itch

[mild ginkgo]

You just gotta be good at the gas jumps

(I'm not)

[atomic egret]

rekon you could get through the window in one swift jump, shooting it as you fly towards it?

like in glitched

[mild ginkgo]

Yes

And if you do that, you get to keep your bunnyhop

[radiant venture]

why do you sometimes get 2 pistols in the beginnign?

[mild ginkgo]

Just a bug lol

Alpha after all :p

[radiant venture]

ah

[mild ginkgo]

I've tried to understand what causes it, but to no avail

[radiant venture]

or rather

NO AVAIN

HAHU

[mild ginkgo]

Roflmao

[atomic egret]

nobody's allowed to make shitty puns but zombie around here

[radiant venture]

he's got a contender

[atomic egret]

first you come in here and try to take @dusk quail 's record away from him and now you're trying to take zombie's title of king of dad jokes? for shame

[radiant venture]

they don't call me Shamefluid without a reason

[dusk quail]

Lol

[zenith horizon]

Yo

Is telefragging a thing in dusk yet

[atomic egret]

@mild ginkgo ?

[thorn trout]

@zenith horizon yup!

[zenith horizon]

GOTY

[jade root]

Can you shoot guys in dusk?

[thorn trout]

kinda

[mild ginkgo]

No, soap only

[vague egret]

you reason with them

[jade root]

What if you could talk to demons

[thorn trout]

@mild ginkgo Lemme see if I can remember what caused the double pickup bug

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah I was always confused by it, seems gone now though

[thorn trout]

yeah it basically had to do with the collision triggering twice for some reason. It sometimes happened with scarecrow posts too. So now it just disabvles the collider

[graceful wing]

neat

[thorn trout]

ahh that's right, it's because pickups use ontriggerstay, so if for some reason it doesn't actually destyroy the next frame, it will pick up twice

[mild ginkgo]

Ohhhhh

That'd do it

Can't wait to see the marvelous bugs people find in duskworld :^)))

[jade root]

Like the whole thing?

[thorn trout]

oh boy yeah

[mild ginkgo]

Hopefully the worst of it is as innocuous as that one

[graceful wing]

@hollow ivy MVP

already hard at work

[jade root]

Chur testing for hours

[mild ginkgo]

I should go 1v1 him, instagib

[graceful wing]

10/0 in chur's favor

[mild ginkgo]

Pretty much

He's a hacker tbh

[jade root]

Don't be rood to chur

!bully

Rip

Either way don't bully the bot

[graceful wing]

you'll never remember that command lol

[jade root]

!bullying

[hollow ivy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Du657XAAkXRwD.jpg

[jade root]

There we go

[mild ginkgo]

Good image

[jade root]

Top tier image

Shit have an idea

[thorn trout]

I'm just looking forward to people figuring out how to hack Duskmatch while it's in closed beta -_-

[mild ginkgo]

Ahaha hmm, might be time to implement a server password

[jade root]

Tunnelsnakesrules

[graceful wing]

^^

also @thorn trout hacking dusk MP would be trivial at best. we'll just have to rely on banning people from the servers themselves

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah you need big $ for good anticheat

[graceful wing]

mhm

[mild ginkgo]

Look how valve still can't cover cs

[graceful wing]

not worth it investing time in any sort of anticheat

[mild ginkgo]

Just ban em

Good riddance

[jade root]

Who tf is gonna hack dusk anyway

[graceful wing]

dusk's a fairly small game so as long as we can set up server admins with ban privileges we should be all good

[mild ginkgo]

Zombie

[graceful wing]

^^

[jade root]

Okay well zombie is already on his way out anyway

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah it should be coverable by humans

Unless it magically becomes the next big hit

[jade root]

Just make the code such a massive mess that hacks collide with it and crashes the game

[mild ginkgo]

Spaghetti code top tier

[jade root]

there we go

[mild ginkgo]

Noiiice

[graceful wing]

no memes on #dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[jade root]

right sorry

[autumn compass]

no

[jade root]

do i need to kick geno again?

[autumn compass]

do it pussy

I FUKING DARE YOU!!!

[jade root]

nah

also #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

!duskinfo

[hollow ivy]

DUSK FAQ

1. How much will it cost? Likely ~$20.
2. Will it have multiplayer/co-op? Yes. Extent of which is TBA.
3. Mod support? TBA
4. p2p or dedicated server? TBA.
5. Console release? Not planned at this time.
6. When will it come out? When its done.

[crimson folio]

ok thx

[barren valve]

2 more days till release ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[vague egret]

maybe in some alternate universe

not this one

[austere dawn]

What does he mean by that?

[jade root]

Don't worry about it

If you don't understand the joke now, explaining it won't do anything

[versed slate]

Dusk was pretty... Cool?

Certainly an alpha.

[exotic ibex]

look at this guy

doesnt have 40 hours in the pre-pre-pre alpha

waddah fakken looser

[versed slate]

STOP YOU'RE BEING MEAN

[red abyss]

Yeah, what's this "was" shit? Get back in there.

[versed slate]

Laundry called godddd

Im digging Endless Mode, that music is pretty A+

[exotic ibex]

now beat my high score

please

i want another excuse to play it again

7159 kills

gogo

[versed slate]

I got pushed into a small crevice

Im not sure im supposed to be here

Yeah I cant really get hit in here help

[radiant venture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig8j5x8mp4I like this?

[versed slate]

Yeah kinda like that but in endless mode

So. I guess im going to break your score @exotic ibex

[exotic ibex]

i did it legit

you cant get out

thus you cant even fabricate you beat my score

:^) have fun

[versed slate]

I got slapped trying to get out anyways lmao

[mild ginkgo]

also itll take him 3 times as long glitched in there

(thats a known glitch btw)

[exotic ibex]

it will

i was just thinking about it

lol

[mild ginkgo]

so 21 hours?

[exotic ibex]

even to beat my actual score would take longer than my 8 hours

[mild ginkgo]

have fun.

[versed slate]

Its over

So does duskdude have a model yet?

[vague egret]

nope

[radiant venture]

do you really get boosted down if you rivet boost into the last hole?

[mild ginkgo]

no

the explosions in alpha only boost upwards

[radiant venture]

ah

[mild ginkgo]

in the final build you will get boosted down

[radiant venture]

also

what actually makes you go fast?

[crimson folio]

SPEED

[barren valve]

GOTTA GO FAST plays sanic ear rape

[mild ginkgo]

theres a bunnyhop threshold, that once you break, puts you in the 100% aircontrol bhopping mode

[radiant venture]

do you break it by strafing?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

[radiant venture]

and do you need to do left+D (or opposite) to break it faster?

[mild ginkgo]

im not 100% on what the most efficient way is yet, i think we still need to do some research on it

or rather, i should just look at the code :P

[thorn trout]

yeah it's the same in duskworld as sp so GO NUTS

[radiant venture]

because sometimes you go balls fast and sometimes you're stuck in meh

[mild ginkgo]

i think its about the same as a standard circle jump

ill look at the code and try to figure out the precise method

[radiant venture]

as far as I've seen, ground strafes do nothing

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i dont think groundstrafing is a thing

[thorn trout]

also worth mentioning that iirc the bunnyhopping in prealpha is jank as heck, and was improved later. I think. I can't remember whether the improvement was after prealpha or before.

[mild ginkgo]

i think its after

it felt more reliable in DW

[radiant venture]

yeah, the strafe radius feels inconsistent

feels like going from a normal Quakeish strafe jump into an inverted strafe gives you the most speed

[mild ginkgo]

yeah, thats my go-to for starting

i do a normal circle jump/strafe jump, then go inverted

and usually it puts you at high speed

[radiant venture]

and try to shift the angle

[mild ginkgo]

wohohoho

@thorn trout

// double jump

!!!!!!

[radiant venture]

as in q2 or UT2004?

[thorn trout]

yeah that was a thing for a little bit, but I scrapped it because it messed with bunnyhopping and felt kinda needless given how many other mobility options there are

[mild ginkgo]

yeah lol

it doesnt do anything in code, i just thought that was an amazing leftover

dont worry, zombie will put it back in 👌

[thorn trout]

I have no doubt

[mild ginkgo]

@radiant venture seems like headclips might be a good way to increase speed as well

[thorn trout]

and don't get too excited when you see stuff about a jetbpack. That's just the ladder code

[mild ginkgo]

but thats going to be hard to work into runs

[thorn trout]

don't ask

[mild ginkgo]

you explained that in the past :P

[radiant venture]

I rarely get good speed from pickinbg the first fuel can to until the second military dude

[mild ginkgo]

you really gotta nail the first two jumps with the can

oh my god david

i love the way you did this

but yeah, definitely alternate left then right

thats hard coded, and will give you best result

[radiant venture]

btw

I really doubt the shortcut to the red door is faster

because you end up at the door a lot smoother if you don't use it

[mild ginkgo]

yeah it really depends how well you can control it, mathematically, the distance is shorter, but its about what you can do effectively

[radiant venture]

exactly

I usually end up at the door mid jump

and that's pretty slow

[mild ginkgo]

yeah to have to wait for a full cycle to jump again, probably a time loss

[obtuse apex]

I like that jump

[radiant venture]

got a 58

[mild ginkgo]

👍

get that 55

[radiant venture]

that was without the shortcut

[thorn trout]

@mild ginkgo how did I do it again? I forget :)

[frozen heart]

b-b-but my WR

[obtuse apex]

WR is free

[radiant venture]

^

ok seriously

http://puu.sh/voRoL/8403ed4e26.jpg fuck this guy

[austere dawn]

When is the PAX 2017 build going to come out?

[radiant venture]

oooooh

57

getting there

[jade root]

itll come out soon

[hexed roost]

PAX build isn't coming out

because it is out-dated poop

[jade root]

its the e1 build now

really dave is the final say on wether the new build will come out

[hexed roost]

dave will be too 4/20 blazed to release the new build anytime soon

[jade root]

he'll be stoned off his ass on the 20th

[radiant venture]

so dave is the final boss after all?

[barren valve]

kek

hope the game coes out before summer ends ;-;

[exotic ibex]

i wouldnt hold my breath

david is about to get a kid

[barren valve]

r u srs mang

[hexed roost]

yeah UPS is going to deliver it any moment now

mail order child

[prisma halo]

dammit I was gonna make that joke

🔫

[hexed roost]

lol

at first i thought you were dave

and then i look to the right and was like

[barren valve]

kek

[hexed roost]

hol up

[radiant venture]

is the timer paused when the game is paused?

[exotic ibex]

yes

[radiant venture]

ah ok

[exotic ibex]

at least on endless

idk in the demo level

[frozen heart]

i still think you earned that easter egg

[atomic egret]

prolly

david said he had something planned for if he got close anyway

[exotic ibex]

david confirmed i got one

what it is no one really knows

and if any of you find it before i do, dont tell me. you fucking fucks.

i want to at least look for it

i do feel shitty about not even getting almost there

[radiant venture]

you mean the picture of that chicken?

[exotic ibex]

no

at one point i asked david that if i got to 10,000 kills in endless if i could get an easter egg

[radiant venture]

yeah

the chicken picture

[exotic ibex]

wat

[radiant venture]

:^)

[exotic ibex]

fuck you now im worried

[radiant venture]

:^)

[exotic ibex]

theres no way you could know

but it makes sense

[radiant venture]

why not?

[exotic ibex]

he hasnt talked about it

[radiant venture]

or has he?

:^)

[exotic ibex]

fuck you go back to Q2

you god damned git

[radiant venture]

I'm playing DUSK

[atomic egret]

ooh salt

[radiant venture]

endless

:^)

[exotic ibex]

mayn fuck both yall

when we getting some justice around here

stahp the bully

[radiant venture]

pls

no

[exotic ibex]

im gonna tattle on you and you cant stop me.

[radiant venture]

no pls

[exotic ibex]

@mild ginkgo pls ban

[radiant venture]

no pls

I'm too young to ban ;~;

[exotic ibex]

bullies get bant. u r bulli. no bulli pls. ty.

!bully

[quiet rose]

.bullying

fuck which one was it

[hexed roost]

.bulby

[fair mirage]

B&

[quiet rose]

!bullying

[hollow ivy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5Du657XAAkXRwD.jpg

[quiet rose]

Listen to the monkey

[exotic ibex]

bulli is bad

no bulli

[atomic egret]

hank ur bully

[exotic ibex]

fuck you gilby. you stupid bird loving nerd.

go back to your film projects. :^)

[atomic egret]

see

[exotic ibex]

oh right this is dusk

UHM

PANIC

[atomic egret]

thanks 4 prove my point

[fair mirage]

DUKS

[quiet rose]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

NOW

[crimson folio]

Someone throw me a baghead model so I can 3D print it

[atomic egret]

just wait for collector's edition

[mild ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/6ed7VRRmCsQ

make sure you check the description

its important

[prisma halo]

fuckin' nice

nice syncing though

with the music

[mild ginkgo]

heh

[prisma halo]

at 0:09

it all lines up

so well

shoot window
grab gascan
blow up gascan
those moments are so satisfying with how they match the beat

good shit

[mild ginkgo]

i realized i didnt record audio so i had to do something about it

oh

fuckin

@atomic egret isnt even online

i did this for him

Lol.

[prisma halo]

rofl

hacking

that's my job lad

💻

[radiant venture]

haha 😄

[mild ginkgo]

thats a bad run too, not 6 second ladder

still another second in that run

i just did it to piss @atomic egret off

[prisma halo]

still the most accurate webm to date

[jade root]

os that the wr?

did you beat our local pirate?

[mild ginkgo]

yeah at least for video recorded ones

no its glitched

i didnt do the legit run

@radiant venture will be finishing off the run soon

hes 2 seconds off right now

[radiant venture]

and @radiant venture is about to lose his mind over how hard the run is D:

[mild ginkgo]

its very inconsistent

[jade root]

i believe at you

[mild ginkgo]

but at least its not a long IL

[radiant venture]

it's actually pretty long, if you compare it to Quake

or Q2

[mild ginkgo]

yeah true, like e1m1 in quake 1 is like what, 24 seconds?

[radiant venture]

depends

IL rekkie is 21

[mild ginkgo]

shiiit

fucking fast

[radiant venture]

yeah

[mild ginkgo]

i think my fastest e1m1 is like, 27 lol

ive only tried once though

one sitting, that is

[radiant venture]

yeah

the fastest I've done is like 22.8

[mild ginkgo]

fuuuuck

thats so goddamn fast

[radiant venture]

but that's with power bunnies

[mild ginkgo]

yeah i dont have those

too lazy for bindings

:P

[radiant venture]

do you have always run off?

[mild ginkgo]

nah, i should, but i dont

[radiant venture]

if you don't power bunny, turn it ON

[mild ginkgo]

yeah

i dont

so i keep it on

[radiant venture]

👍

[mild ginkgo]

one day ill do the bindings

so i can power bunny

[radiant venture]

I don't power bunny unless I do ILs

or 100m

[mild ginkgo]

100m <3

[woeful sonnet]

Will I be able to turn the fov up to 160?

[toxic wadi]

360 fov just like those quake mods

[crimson folio]

420 fov

[earnest jacinth]

fov that's so big that it comes to the point where you can see behind you

[mild ginkgo]

the mav FOV setting is called "totalbiscuit"

i think its like 180

ill check

nope, 150 is the max

[woeful sonnet]

Ok

[gleaming berry]

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/854812144432435200

Oshry @ Home (@DaveOshry)

.@DUSKdev In a related story, @DUSKdev now has an INTRUDER MODE which will start you with only sickles on each level (weapons reset) because why not.

Twitter

FOV goes from 75-150 yes

[red abyss]

Challenge modes. Woot!

[crystal vessel]

Oh nice so each level can be played from "pistol start"?

[jade root]

ye

[crystal vessel]

I like that a lot

[mild ginkgo]

but not every level is gonna put a pistol outside the first room

so youll have to get creative

[barren valve]

What mad man plays with less than 90 fov.

[mild ginkgo]

people who buy consoles

120 i think is the default setting in dusk

[barren valve]

One reason I can't stand consoles at all.

[gleaming berry]

120 is default yes

I usually like 111

because I'm insane

150 is silly

[twilit olive]

I like 90

[gleaming berry]

90 is good for most shooters

modern ones

75 is claustrophobic

[prisma halo]

clearly 60 is superior

the true aliens: colonial marines experience

[fair mirage]

dave you crazy

130 or nothing

[twilit olive]

the peak is 180

[vague egret]

real men play at 360 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F59y_diAJcw

[twilit olive]

holy fuck

[fair mirage]

aw yeah

[red abyss]

Saw that. Looked... surprisingly doable.

[thorn trout]

110-120 feels about right to me for Dusk. 90 feels waaaaaay too low. I can't tell if that's because I'm used to 120 at this point or because there's something wrong with my fov calculation. It flips after 180 like it's supposed to though so shrug

at around 160 it becomes stupidly unplayable

[prisma halo]

90 is generally what you want for 4:3 I think

you need at least 100 for 16:9

there was a site I used to have that would work out the ideal FOV for a resolution

I forget the name though

[thorn trout]

yeah I was shocked when I got a widescreen monitor a year or two ago and discovered that some games I'd been fine with suddenly felt really clausterphobic

[prisma halo]

you'd enter the base FOV and the aspect it's for (eg, 90 4:3) and it'd give you FOV values for other aspect ratios

[thorn trout]

I should change the beginning vo to say "Get out of here I.N.T.R.U.D.E.R"

[mild ginkgo]

INTRUDER

you need to record a duskworld voice pack

like the quake one

[thorn trout]

Whoever officially does the ominous vo will have to do announcer vos for duskworld

[mild ginkgo]

Whens playable

[thorn trout]

dacon would be too op

[atomic egret]

NO 500

FUCK YOU SO HARD

FUCK YOU AND YOUR GOOD BHOPPING

[exotic ibex]

gilby me bruv

just git gud

:^)

[mild ginkgo]

did you see the description @atomic egret ?

[atomic egret]

YES

[mild ginkgo]

good

i did it just for you

now you have to beat it and ill delete the video

[atomic egret]

I HATE YOU

YOU TOOK AWAY MY PRIDE AND JOY

[mild ginkgo]

i didnt put WR on it

so if people search it

theyll still find you

[barren valve]

360 fov

[atomic egret]

that doesn't matter

[barren valve]

i usually go between 90-130

[atomic egret]

I don't care who sees that I have world record if I know it's not true

[mild ginkgo]

im actually gonna delete the description now anyways lol

i just did it as a meme

<3 no offense meant

[atomic egret]

I keep getting fucking body blocked by the soldiers and it throws off my momentum

[mild ginkgo]

oh god youre actually playing

im sorry i made you do this