it's weird how good 2016 was for games, and the only one I'm really itching for this year is Dusk
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
past scarab
crimson folio
2017 is shaping up to be a good fuckin year as is
past scarab
yeah I think it's mostly that I didn't really look into what's being released
that and a lot of games surprised me last year, like DOOM
thorn trout
Doom was a really nice surprise
crimson folio
Was hyped from the start for that one. Just wish they'd stop marketing the fucking multiplayer
jade root
theyll stop omce quake beta starts
slate edge
Im looking forward to Dusk SP, so dont worry about MP too much
past scarab
I was really iffy on Quake until a week or so ago when it sounds like id did some damage control
slate edge
Im still unsure about quake
past scarab
i mean, I'm still wary, but I can at least TRY it for free
just kind of bummed that we went from MP shooters all being CoD to all shooters trying to be TF2/Overwatch
just need my indie Quake-like where I shoot Klansmen and I'll be happy
past scarab
or doesn't sell, in some cases
though I can feel I'm about to switch topics and get yelled at again
we got a whole new channel cause I can't stop doing it
jade root
right now loot crates, f2p structure, and character abilities in an online areana are whats cool
slate edge
It got old in 2012 with f2p games with skins that you could rent, or own if you use real money
past scarab
I just finished playing the Lawbreakers beta, and while it's good, one malingering problem is telling friend from foe. Unfortunately, you can't have brightly colored teammates/enemies like in UT or something because everybody has customized characters
past scarab
most likely, yes. I also dig that character abilities will be able to be turned off
I'll probably play both ways, just nice to have the option
slate edge
I dislike character based abilities and weapons, its inferior to char customisation
thorn trout
I didn't know you could turn that off. That's awesome.
past scarab
I like it, I just like having alternatives, you know?
past scarab
I'll play a team character game, but I'd like some good games that just aren't that on the market too
I enjoy Red Orchestra as much as Unreal Tournament, if for different reasons
but the problem is games shoe-horning trends into their design that don't mesh, which I think is a problem with Battlefield these days
I haven't played DOOM's MP since launch. Did they ever make any significant chages?
slate edge
not really
past scarab
shame
slate edge
it has multiplayer dlc
past scarab
I could forgive a lot with Doom's MP, but the sound design was a problem nobody talked about
it was so quiet
slate edge
IT HAS MULTIPLAYER DLC
past scarab
heh
slate edge
That`s just bottom of the barrel
past scarab
Yeah. You could tell that Bethesda/Zeni didn't have an MP game, and they were hoping for Doom to be it
slate edge
I don`t mind singleplayer DLC or expansion packs, as long as there is ample content, but this is the saddest type of DLC, and if you intend on getting every achievement, its going to cost you.
past scarab
that and just cutting a huge chunk of people out and splitting the community
slate edge
past scarab
I have over 1200 hours of play in Payday 2, and I kind of finally gave up when they just started dumping more and more ridiculous achievements in after the difficulty update a few months ago
crimson folio
I'm pretty upset about the DLC because some of it looks pretty cool and I would have loved more variety in the campaign. I mean really, sci-fi base is boring as hell
slate edge
I think achievements should take some work to get, but they shouldnt be bullshit or 500+ of them
past scarab
Dredmor
crimson folio
The worst one I've ever seen is for Borderlands 2 I think, where you need to play with a developer
slate edge
gmod has it too
past scarab
There are onetime only achievements in some games where you had to go to an event or something
slate edge
They are all do-able technically
the achievments that are time based use your pc clock
prisma ivy
Theres one called "Unacheivable" that is supposed to be unachievable.
slate edge
i achieved it
prisma ivy
I never bothered to look it up because I've never been much of an achievment hunter
WHat do you do?
formal turret
you know whats depressing
rewatching duke nukem forever's 2001 trailer and remembering what could have been
crimson folio
Yeah... D:
jade root
oh thats interesting
@thorn trout are you aware that in the pre-alpha, in the lava room, if you crouch youll take floor damage?
thorn trout
oh really? Heh no I wasn't aware :)
thorn trout
Yeah I know why.
slate edge
need moar dusk
mild ginkgo
nice one @jade root
jade root
you knew about it?
quiet rose
@jade root wow gamebreaking
that happened to me once but i thought i was getting shot
jade root
potentially is gamebreaking
crimson folio
I hope DUSK is gonna have enemies that require you to jump/crouch to avoid damage. I don't know why more FPS games don't utilise those two and only rely on strafing
prisma halo
You pretty much have to do that to avoid the scarecrow's attacks
Sliding, crouching and jumping are all necessary to face off against a bunch of scarecrows unscathed
crimson folio
Oh, cool
junior bobcat
🥛
willow flax
did steam still not give them their keys ?
i know he was having problems the other day with them
formal turret
what the fuck is duke nukem 3d's problem with putting boss level enemies in places where yo ucant kill them yet you have to get past
i swear the later half of this lunar episode is impossible
thorn trout
oh yeah, I think I know exactly where you are
sturdy cave
What are you using to map for Dusk? Probuilder?
graceful wing
dusk is an unity game
u5 to be precise
and i think david just uses default tools for the most part
prisma halo
He uses ProBuilder for levels, yes
graceful wing
eh nvm then. never heard him mention that
graceful wing
well over a month ago, rip
prisma halo
well, that's one of the older examples I could've picked
it was the first one I saw in the search results that straight up said "I'm using probuilder"
graceful wing
fair enough
prisma halo
almost 3 AM
have TAFE tomorrow
being tired in class won't matter because I've done all my assessments
debating whether to play games or sleep
graceful wing
go for vidya and sleep in class
prisma halo
I already sleep in class when I finish all my work because there is literally nothing else to do but sit there
graceful wing
one of the reasons i got a fairly powerful laptop
prisma halo
So I just sleep to pass the time (usually over 3 hours) until I go home
I'd never bring my laptop to tafe
graceful wing
well the main reason i got that thing for was the army since yea not playing vidya for weeks at a time would've sucked
prisma halo
hygiene problems alone I simply don't trust the people there
graceful wing
hm
prisma halo
there are some weiiiird people that use those desks
I ain't getting shit on my laptop lol
graceful wing
i dunno, consider a handheld maybe
prisma halo
I guess I could bring my 3DS
graceful wing
or one of those android emulation boxes from china
prisma halo
I've beaten all the games on my Vita
graceful wing
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS494HP?m=A1KF0N6LL91JT&ref_=v_sp_widget_detail_page something like this maybe
prisma halo
pfft
nah, not worth the investment just for tafe
I have an android tablet I can use for my emulation needs
dusty blaze
I miss my GP2X
deft salmon
At school I game on my badass gaming notebook powered by an insanely powerful intel HD processor and nothing else
atomic egret
at school I don't play games not because I'm responsible but because my laptop would run out of battery before I could get anything done
hexed roost
^
graceful wing
at school i don't play video games cause i only gotta go there like once every couple months
wicked nest
😃
acoustic oriole
I play DOOM at work everyday
wicked nest
Wonderful
worn nest
gotta be a really boring workplace if you ask me
graceful wing
eh not necessarily. some jobs just have a lot of dead time occasionally
IT helpdesk comes to mind
worn nest
Yo what up dusk team
thorn trout
multiplayer yo
lofty crane
h**k
jade root
h**king bullpoop
wraith relic
d*rn it
slate edge
Multiplayer going alright?
exotic ibex
da dirty deets fam?
feral solar
done dirt cheap?
feral solar
u said deets
feral solar
same thing
exotic ibex
nope
feral solar
yes
exotic ibex
dont duks me lain
vague egret
cool dusk chat. when did it become general 2?
feral solar
since forever
vague egret
wrong answer
feral solar
i have a get out of jail free card
vague egret
feral solar
ok fine ill talk about dusk stuff
actually
is dave working on the mp now or something?
feral solar
literally same thing
jade root
Dave is pr guy
feral solar
i know
vague egret
yeah he is working on the early foundations of it
feral solar
are all the sp levels done then?
feral solar
oh
jade root
hes getting it done so it can be tested
exotic ibex
T E S T I N G
jade root
since theres a substantial amount of testers now
exotic ibex
a pill
vague egret
dusk guy is dave
jade root
as of right the models are pills
feral solar
wat u say?!
exotic ibex
P I L L
feral solar
blue pill or red pill
jade root
brown
exotic ibex
grey
feral solar
o
jade root
brown and grey
exotic ibex
its also jabronii flavored
exotic ibex
jabroni
jade root
tastes like ass
exotic ibex
nice
feral solar
b
past linden
MX-DAS is my favorite OS
atomic egret
I love dusk the OS
exotic ibex
it would probably just end up being various icons from the game and chanting followed with a copy of dusk.
earnest jacinth
how many episodes are gonna be in dusk?
vague egret
All of them
crimson folio
Is DUSK gonna be on GOG or just Steam?
What
GoG is for classic games, not original titles lol
Also Niko, 3 episodes with 11 levels each
crimson folio
How the hell? That's weird. Though GoG is used primarily for those who don't want to deal with the stuff, I can't remember what it's called but it's like the Denuvo shit
prisma halo
DRM is the term you're looking for
acoustic oriole
GOG is a store for DRM free games
thorn trout
GOG used to just have old games, now they have newer titles as well
ruby pewter
Noice to see some competition for steam
it's been a monopoly for too long
and it shows in how Valve is acting
I really hope they start making good games again
crimson folio
Please don't imply that uPlay or Origin is better, there's a reason why steam is number 1
Greenlight and paid mods were still terrible fucking ideas though and I'm glad Valve defaulted on both
austere egret
Origin and uPlay don't have refunds
crimson folio
Actually iirc Origin did have digital refunds first, Steam always had refunds but changed the system
austere egret
Well, theres more wrong with them than that, still
crimson folio
Yeah origin and uplay suck
past scarab
Origin is actually pretty good. I prefer it over Steam these days
austere egret
I'd take valve's lazyness over slavery under EA any day
past scarab
their Access system is something I'd like to see Steam do
austere egret
I still have reservations about getting it, EA is everything wrong with the video game industry
Plus Steam has more games
crystal vessel
If you don't support EA I hope you also don't support Ubisoft.
austere egret
Ubisoft isn't as bad, but they're still scummy jackasses
So no
I don't support Ubisoft either
crystal vessel
Alright good
austere egret
And Forced Uplay is annoying
worn nest
So its there a time frame? for dusk i don't wanna sound like a douche, it looks like a game I would like to play really...really hard
vague egret
Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe
austere egret
You're not wrong
graceful wing
but what if dusk turns out like star citizen @vague egret ?
vague egret
multiple engine/api changes and a crowdfunding scam? i dont think david is that motivated
jade root
david too lazy for that
thorn trout
so multiplayer thoughts...
mild ginkgo
lol
crimson folio
Yes?
mild ginkgo
2000 character limit david :P
thorn trout
Multiplayer is kind of a different thing than singleplayer for me. The focus with singleplayer was bringing back elements that I feel have been missing from FPS design primarily, and trying to give the game its own personality and strengths around that. There are few if any modern FPS with a focus on handcrafted level design, purposeful enemy placement, etc. However, there are a handful of FPS that are already trying to emulate Quake/UT as authentically as possible. I feel that Dusk has something to say in emulating elements of old singleplayer, but not as much to say in emulating elements of old multiplayer. That's not to say that DUSKmatch isn't going to be very much an oldschool arena FPS. It is. And as with singleplayer I'll be looking toward classic titles and trying to take their lessons to heart while designing it. But I think there's going to be more of a focus on making sure the multiplayer is "Dusk in a multiplayer setting" rather than "just Quake again." So rather than trying to design the experience to play as much like Quake as possible, it's more about taking lessons from area FPS to create a multiplayer experience that is uniquely "Dusk."
crimson folio
Sounds reasonable
mild ginkgo
💯
mild ginkgo
i think dusk has such high overhead to be zany and fun
not serious competetitive bleeding edge quake
thorn trout
Yeah, it's got the potential to be completely insane fun
mild ginkgo
backflips and crossbows through walls
thorn trout
I'm still not sure where on the line it should lie, between just random insanity and serious competitive. I think beta testing etc will help figure that out
crimson folio
You gonna have MP skins like Serious Sam?
prisma halo
Soap skin pls
thorn trout
Current plan is to use enemy skins as player skins for mp
mild ginkgo
a lot of it will come down to map design, as the weapons, movement, and general framework are all still there
skin when
graceful wing
so sort of like ROTT13 then
thorn trout
I'm also thinking it might be a good idea to have some serious DM maps, and also ship with a few just silly maps. Like, I dunno, "the entire map is jump pads" or stuff like that.
mild ginkgo
also CTF GAMEMODE WHEN
thorn trout
@prisma halo I think that can be arranged :)
slate edge
So we can play as scarecrows? Woooooooooooooooooooooo!
mild ginkgo
throwing the flag onto boostpads for ridiculous mid air flag passes
while doing a backflip
prisma halo
Capture the meat lass
thorn trout
Oh that's the other thing... re: modes, I was thinking it would be a good idea to keep them as sparse as possible, so as not to divide up whatever community it manages to gain
slate edge
DM
thorn trout
yeah definitely DM
mild ginkgo
what more do you need
thorn trout
do you think team dm is needed?
mild ginkgo
mmm, maybe
ctf fulfills the team role for me
i have no need for team dm
but lots of people enjoy it
prisma halo
I dunno, team DM always felt pointless to me
mild ginkgo
^^^
thorn trout
so maybe just ffa and ctf
mild ginkgo
i like having the objective of the flag
graceful wing
TDM usually turns out pretty meh in arena fps games
prisma halo
It doesn't have as much of a teamwork aspect as ctf
mild ginkgo
theres no ACTUAL teamwork in TDM
graceful wing
with ROTT no one ever played it
mild ginkgo
its just players forced to be allies
graceful wing
yup
thorn trout
ok good to know. I personally don't like tdm that much either
prisma halo
Team dm is just dm with people you can't shoot
mild ginkgo
^^
graceful wing
shoot anything that moves just works way better for these fast paced games IMO
slate edge
add teamplay as more of a server toggle/option rather than a seperate gamemode
hexed roost
tdm is pointless in an arena shooter (my 2 cents)
crimson folio
Speaking of multiplayer, co-op is gonna be a thing yeah?
mild ginkgo
after launch
mild ginkgo
remember TF2 launched with no TDM mode
and it was a runaway success
same with overwatch
its just not necessary
an objective facilitates teamwork
graceful wing
well OW is all team vs team stuff
thorn trout
we want coop to be a thing. But it's not going to be a thing at launch. Working on vs has confirmed that. It's been quite difficult just to get multiplayer working in a simple dm context, and I imagine it's going to be a nightmare having to recode the whole sp experience to be networked.
graceful wing
speaking of which anyone know if the new character is out yet?
crimson folio
Ah well, not that I have any friends to play with
graceful wing
ye netcode for unity games tends to be a bit of a nightmare
prisma halo
de_dusk.bsp
graceful wing
sure you do, just about every regular on this server 👌
prisma halo
de_dusk2.bsp
thorn trout
I don'
oops
I don't like having to go back on something that we talked about (never promised I hope), but yeah... coop will be post-release if at all.
mild ginkgo
and i find "point based" team modes are boring because they dont really allow you to fulfill team roles, as the objective is "capture the point" , and theres one way to accomplish that really, because the maps necessitate chokepoints. CTF allows you to play defense, capper, disruptor, midfielder, etc
graceful wing
CTF is the only team game mode that's viable
mild ginkgo
agreed
prisma halo
Post release coop beats no coop
mild ginkgo
coop is a would be nice, but def not a must
although id love to see coop speedruns :^)
slate edge
unless you do a ut99/ ut2k4 assault gamemode with objective maps, but thats time consuming and im not sure if it`d fit with the context of DUSK
thorn trout
Also worth mentioning is that atm I'm working on Dusk pretty much on my own, apart from stuff Zombie and 500 are helping with / doing. After release, provided it does well, my plan is to start a studio with my brothers and work on post-release content that way. So there will be more than just me to try and get coop/whatever working.
mild ginkgo
yeah dusk has a very doom1 feel it, give you guns, shoot stuff
who cares why
its cultists n shit
kill em
prisma halo
lmao yeah
mild ginkgo
assault is like, context etc
crimson folio
But what if you could talk to the cultists?
mild ginkgo
they shoot fireballs at you on sight
they dont seem to want to say anything besides "KILL HIIIIM"
thorn trout
I wonder what the flag should be...
prisma halo
The cult insignia?
slate edge
A flaming skull on a stick thats burning and emits metal music. thats the flag
exotic ibex
heres the flag
thorn trout
haha oh lord I always look like such a dweeb :D
prisma halo
No that's the final boss
crimson folio
"To win the game you must defeat me, Dave!"
mild ginkgo
icon
of sin dave
but yeah, flag throw button pls, not drop
tf2 dropped the ball there
you need to be able to THROW the flag forwards, not just drop it at your feet
prisma halo
Thrown flag should do damage :^)
slate edge
Maybe make the flag like a death staff that acts as a weapon, though if you switch weapons, you drop flag maybe?
mild ginkgo
that probably wouldnt really work though
mild ginkgo
as soon as they touch it, it returns to base
prisma halo
Throw flag at enemy to kill them, but risk them getting the flag if they're armored
thorn trout
oh true
crimson folio
Man that would be an interesting mode, people beating other people up with a flag pole
mild ginkgo
could be interesting
mild ginkgo
halo had a melee with the flag didnt it?
slate edge
maybe make it have a spear on the bottom with the head maybe shooting fireballs from its eyes like the life leach from blood 🤷
prisma halo
You have to fill it by killing enemies with it before you can cap it
The Soul Offering
mild ginkgo
hohoh zombie with the legitimately cool ideas
prisma halo
:^)
slate edge
I agree
thorn trout
woah, yeah actually...
prisma halo
Fits the cultist theme
could actually be a neat reuse for the amulet model
just add a skull on the end
prisma halo
the last one is an excellent idea
thorn trout
👍
prisma halo
if you wanted to expand on the sort of "soul" concept
you could play around with something like painkiller
after a player dies they drop a soul
so you could absorb souls of other players killed by your teammates
so you could use strategies in MP to kill a bunch of enemy players and send in the guy with the "flag"
and then cap it
thorn trout
hmm yeah
prisma halo
I wonder if that'd work balance-wise though
thorn trout
I kinda like this "soul-based" ctf idea
mild ginkgo
need to come up with what happens if the flag is dropped/picjed up by enemies
thorn trout
gives it a unique twisat
ruby pewter
@thorn trout
prisma halo
lol
ruby pewter
oh, trolled by discrd again, sorry for the ping
mild ginkgo
its SO accurate though
prisma halo
@mild ginkgo the souls could all scatter and fade after a while if they aren't recaptured
thorn trout
hahahahahaha
mild ginkgo
and play the sonic coin dropping noise
prisma halo
could have a really cool visual effect for them "exploding" out of the "flag"
exotic ibex
but would you be soulless when you have captured multiple souls?
neat shadow
woah, I missed some cool stuff. Just to mention tho Loadout had a similar system in 'capture the hammer' where you can power up the hammer/flag by getting kills. Each kills increment the flag cap value by one. So you can still rush out for a fast cap OR be bold and try to get more points per cap.
red abyss
Yeah, it was capped at 5 kills, I believe.
Which is a terrible thing to say, since I was QA on it for about 6 months. 😛
ionic cedar
So the flag is like a weapon, like a breach hammer or some shit
red abyss
More like a comically huge metal hammer that had an AoE when it lands.
It also had limited swings.
ionic cedar
Yeah I could see that
austere egret
That sounds like a blast to use
ionic cedar
It'd be a swing down to the ground and you'd have a huge windup and cooldown on it too
Don't want it to be too dumb
red abyss
Yeah, the hammer in loadout would just make you do a straight drop down. Like a ground slam.
I think it's still live on Steam and PS4.
And it's free, so... woot
austere egret
I'd make the flag a overly long-barreled heavy-cal rifle with a flag straped to the barrel, with a bayonet at the end to shank a fucker with
That'd be fun
nocturne halo
Does that game still have a decent playerbase?
nocturne halo
Damn that sucks
austere egret
Even a stupid "Word gun"
Every been killed by a bullet shaped like the phrase "HAHA GET REKT SCRUB XD" before? Its not fun
wraith relic
enter the gungeon has a word gun
austere egret
It said "pew' right?
neat shadow
it spelled bullets
neat shadow
also, always glad to help when it comes to ctf inspiration
what you guys talked about earlier sounded more lik a mix between koth,ctf, and kc
one flag in the middle of the map, only the carrier can harvest souls for his team...
good stuff too
red abyss
I'm telling you, give it a try. It's a blast to play.
neat shadow
is loadout still up? last time I tried to login i got thrown out
exotic ibex
pretty sure its gone
neat shadow
that's sad. I had the stupidest of the guns, it was so cool
nocturne halo
I liked how they had you pay real money to have your character be naked
neat shadow
ho well, that's a topic for general I guess
red abyss
@nocturne halo $100 to have your junk floppin'. Last I'll say on the matter.
That being said, WOO DUSK!
Hooray for staying on topic, right?
neat shadow
I think giving some twists to the classic multiplayer modes might just give it that much more personality
(keep goin' their are watching us)
mild ginkgo
Yeah, it gonna have a bunch of distinct flavor I feel
Crouch slides, fast movement, 100% air control, and flipsmeans it's gonna be wild
Plus crossbows through walls
jade root
dont forget the cover system
red abyss
Wait, there's a cover system?
jade root
yeah
mild ginkgo
No.
jade root
you can only be in cover on certain levels
mild ginkgo
Shaddap jab
neat shadow
shitposting is in general jab > : 3
jade root
think gears of war but worse
neat shadow
pliz
mild ginkgo
Gears of war + every naughty dog game
jade root
thats what dusk is
neat shadow
anyway, I'm expecting a stupid-sized menu for customizing the game modes like in Xonotic
extreme kill mode: you can only shoot while flipping
exotic ibex
that will likely be left to modding
remember, dusk is being made by one person. david has said he would cut MP before making SP suffer
neat shadow
yeah, just throwing cool things out
mild ginkgo
Or post launch expansion
neat shadow
I'd be fine with that
mild ginkgo
He's planning on upscaling the team to his bros I think after launch
So he'll have extra hands
neat shadow
I'd be fine with any mp if it got server consoles and a buttload of cvars to tweak but that takes time and effort to dev
jade root
well coop will be post so extrqa contetn is very possible
like that weapon durability update
guns will break after 4 shots
neat shadow
you know what that would make a great game modifier
neat shadow
with amped up gun spawn rates
jade root
i know for a fact when the game comes out i will mod it so morale can go to 200 since someone doesnt want to change that
neat shadow
and have it gradually scale down to 100 to keep the original balance somewhat fine?
jade root
it just drives me crazy that health can go to 200 but not morale
ocd kinda thing
dont even know if it would break the game yet
actually 200 morale prolly the only way to survive hunting rifle
neat shadow
To be honest it kinda bugged me out too first
neat shadow
hunting rifle is 150*2 dmg right?
jade root
doess 400
mild ginkgo
Ye
jade root
/rip op
mild ginkgo
Very reasonable now
jade root
F
neat shadow
does it still fire 2 overlapping projectiles?
neat shadow
David explained that once I think
mild ginkgo
Lol
neat shadow
that's why it had a pseudo percing ability
or I totally dreamed it, wich is a quite troubling theory because dreaming about nb's discord is a bit weird
lavish galleon
anyone else notice when you zoom in the sky moves with you 😮
jade root
ye
mild ginkgo
Sky box in the New build at pax looked great
thorn trout
@lavish galleon SHHHH DON'T TELL ANYONE
thorn trout
@jade root umm, I think I did change morale to go up to 200
I changed health bonuses to go to 200 at least
per your suggestion
crimson folio
Gotta have Doom's hp system lol
thorn trout
@neat shadow yup that's how the rifle works. Fires two shots so it can pierce through weaker enemies
crimson folio
Still can't wait to find out what the hell that thing was in the trailer, some dragon dog thing? Likely E1's boss
neat shadow
no way I would have guessed it alone, but once you know it you can't help but notice it sometimes
thin sphinx
wanted to know if DUSK would support GL_NEAREST_MIPMAP_LINEAR or the eqivilent
for pople who dont know that is sharp pixels vs blurry
thorn trout
Yeah there's no mipmapping, so textures are sharp at a distance/extreme angles
fathom marsh
When Is the next give away and how do you enter?
lavish galleon
lol
lavish galleon
it was
@fathom marsh just wait
keys are dropped whenever Dave feels like dropping them
exotic ibex
the keys drop randomly.
lavish galleon
dont beg for them
fathom marsh
ok
exotic ibex
its first person to claim them gets them
lavish galleon
vague egret
graceful wing
wait, the bot's not allowing you to use keyfaq?
i recently recompiled it so some permissions might've broken. couls someone try real quick for me pls?
exotic ibex
!keyfaq
graceful wing
try again now
buoyant lintel
ayyo whaddup yall
graceful wing
wew
crimson folio
Nah, still broken
graceful wing
also sup
exotic ibex
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
exotic ibex
👍🏻
graceful wing
👌
crimson folio
Yes
graceful wing
megarude
buoyant lintel
loved dusk @ pax thank you for the corsair mouse
buoyant lintel
thanks!! i dont think i was the only winner but damn i love this game
exotic ibex
now beat my pre-pre-pre alpha score
jade root
7100 damn
graceful wing
yea at that point the game starts to freak out
exotic ibex
critical items spawn under the floor and you get a silky smooth 21 fps
exotic ibex
or that its not getting rid of the dead ones
graceful wing
that too
crimson folio
Demo when.
exotic ibex
i used the riveter and mortar mostly for corpse clearing
graceful wing
if dead enemies stay in memory that's gonna break shit eventually
graceful wing
ram?
exotic ibex
and RAM usage wasnt higher than normal either
jade root
cant hit 10k cause bad game
mild ginkgo
you can if you keep typing idkfa
graceful wing
can't fail if you don't try 👌
mild ginkgo
i think you meant to say talented individuals
lofty crane
shouldn't idkfa in dusk be nbkfa
gleaming berry
mild ginkgo
yes
crystal vessel
who are you again
jade root
some dude who made that shitty rott game
wicked nest
Hmmm..
crimson folio
Legends say if you defeat El Oscuro in single combat you will be granted a key to DUSK
subtle bane
atomic egret
@prisma halo will sound replacement be easy with dawn?
I want to make a shitty highlander meme mod to replace the sword's sound
prisma halo
yes
crimson folio
I hope someone adds some Blood sounds, Caleb's lines are awesome
willow flax
Probably going love in about a half hour with my first play session, should be a good time ! >=}
Live *
crimson folio
did i miss the key drop?
austere egret
Nah
crimson folio
yay.
exotic ibex
yes
crimson folio
darn
crimson folio
sure.
darn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf1W7LcdDo4 i thought that this demo was recent.
crimson folio
wat.
anyway thats the version im tryin to find. looks like nobodys yarr harr piratey or something it..
crimson folio
Im such a cheapskate
exotic ibex
there will be plenty of chances for you to get a key
the mods just got their own batch for when dave cant drop any.
you'll get one dudebroski
crimson folio
well... they kinda always drop when im asleep..
exotic ibex
where do you live?
crimson folio
in New Zealand
exotic ibex
yeah. im sure the mods will give you a chance at one of their keys.
your chances have improved since yesterday
crimson folio
Oky Doky
exotic ibex
give it a bit more time fam. some people here have gone a couple of months before getting one
crimson folio
lol Okay dude.
willow flax
will we be adding volume control, it was really loud for my stream earlier
and will there be keybinding soon ?
neat shadow
Screenshot from the pax build with all the option menus
just for extra answer accuracy and I thought everybody was watching kingsman
jade root
They will be
austere egret
I don't want to
unreal token
option for flower/rainbow blood when
atomic egret
wait you guys are watching kingsman?
crimson folio
Yes
All the keys have been dropped for the night
Well for the movie at least
Not till next movie
crimson folio
See everyone at the next movie night
verbal sand
crimson folio
onyx dock
suupp
austere egret
What do you want?
onyx dock
good question
jade root
anidiscord
onyx dock
Rad
jade root
rogers
vague egret
f
mild ginkgo
approved
onyx dock
My bad this is dusk related only channel
Anyway the devs tweeted at me for recuritment here
atomic egret
stop
onyx dock
Aye Sir
atomic egret
thank
wraith relic
suddenly realized
brutal dusk will be inevitable when the game releases
even though it's already kind of brutal
serene needle
@thorn trout
wraith cape
i feel like that looks like something.
red abyss
Looks like a big spooky monster?
red abyss
Blergh. Tutorials, maybe?
austere egret
I guess
past scarab
Blender is good, but it's got a hell of a learning curve
austere egret
If you say so
past scarab
also yeah the UI is a mess
austere egret
TUTORIAL TIME!
past scarab
is there any kind of NDA on the DUSK beta?
austere egret
If all goes well, by the end of this weekend, I should have a proof of concept model working
exotic ibex
no @past scarab
past scarab
thanks
onyx dock
I got the hang of it but you need to find the right tuts
atomic egret
it's good but also not very good
austere egret
Yah
hexed roost
Welcome to every modeling program out there
Unless you got the cyberbrain hook up plugin for 3ds Max
It converts whatever you're thinking of into a 3d model, really helpful
austere egret
Wait really?
hexed roost
That pipeline is otherworldly 👌
austere egret
Sounds like bullshit
Still though, this shit is gonna be hard
But if I do it right, I should be able to make a simple model
By weeks end
graceful wing
cyberbrain 
thorn trout
cube is gud
thorn trout
both I guess
past scarab
past scarab
in development for over a decade
austere egret
THAT took a decade?
atomic egret
featuring the latest in 3d pictures
past scarab
it's ajoke
austere egret
I know
past scarab
just making sure
sorry, I have a friend from China right now, and parody stuff like that really confuses him. It's become a force of habit
austere egret
Was this made in blender too?
Oh
Some people have a hard time with that stuff, espescially people from non western nations
Satire can be a bit different over there
red abyss
If it was, Maxwell, you're still far from reaching the dreaded cone.
past scarab
god, I could easily see Cube being on Greenlight but dead serious
wraith cape
it runs like a dream so far.
austere egret
Awesome
atomic egret
has he realized that you can deflect with sickles yet
austere egret
Wait, you can? I didn't know that
atomic egret
yep
austere egret
brb gonna test
serene needle
Who does the "Kill the Intruder" Voice thing?
atomic egret
david probably
thorn trout
Andrew actually
spiral heath
Too scary for Dusk?
wraith relic
why is the game titled "DUSK"
lavish galleon
becuase it can be
atomic egret
david thought of it when he was 14 iirc
wraith relic
oops i forgot about #240196737397030922
exotic ibex
so andrew is the malevolent evil god in dusk?
lavish galleon
tip - for added nightmares kite the scarecrow onto the 2nd floor of the house and then forget about him for 5 minutes and then bump into him 👍
exotic ibex
METAL GOD CONFIRMED TO ANTAGONIST OF DUSK
wraith relic
i imagined some cool setting premises for the game tho
austere egret
benevolent means good
lavish galleon
watch the Pax video
atomic egret
the scarecrows that are motion activated are a pushover
wraith relic
like the world's rotation having frozen somehow and so the place in the game is stuck at perpetual sunset
austere egret
Malevolent means evil
lavish galleon
Not really Gilby, theyre triggered based on distance btw and theyre a callback to a lot of old "position trigger" creatures lol
but theyre freaky
atomic egret
they're toast
yeah I know that but they don't fire fast enough to hit you before you finish running up to them
austere egret
You're very welcome
If and or when I make a game, I'm gonna make the flags in capture the flag One-shot Anti-tank rifles with long ass barrels, with the flag itself mounted to the barrel, and a gigantic fuck-off bayonet at the end
wraith relic
WHO WAS MODELLING THAT JEZAIL
copper heart
if we get a dusk key, do we have dusk or is it just for a beta
wraith relic
tell him to do it
austere egret
Damien
lavish galleon
you have Dusk
at least from what im told
but imho they should only be alpha/beta keys
atomic egret
pax build's coming real soon
austere egret
Meh, not a fan of jezails
wraith cape
23-25 min runs on the demo level so far. Only missing 2 secrets, got all the bad guys.
man i love this
thick stone
❤
austere egret
Thats good
atomic egret
step up @wraith cape
wraith cape
dang
austere egret
If you need help getting the sword
atomic egret
shh
wraith cape
mortar jumps eh?
atomic egret
dont tell him
austere egret
No
atomic egret
nope
wraith cape
fuel cans?
atomic egret
way easier than that
austere egret
No
crimson folio
Wew lad @atomic egret
atomic egret
mortar jumps will be a lot easier when pax build drops though
lavish galleon
It took me ages to figure out how to get the sword, and when I found out I just facepalmed
crimson folio
Got all the secrets on my first try
lavish galleon
I expected some doom styled opening all doors to find a back way around to some elevator or some crazy shit
crimson folio
But I knew half of them from watching so many videos about the game lol
wraith cape
another round i go
austere egret
Why is a song by the "Call me maybe" Chick making me head bob?
lavish galleon
Starts off on Meathook
HP is 200%
atomic egret
👌🏻
lavish galleon
finally found the doom 64 secret
wicked nest
😮
atomic egret
she can't be perfect because she doesnt exist
wraith cape
got the sword 😄
atomic egret
👌🏻
wraith relic
there's a d64 reference in the game?
copper heart
there needs to be am od for this game
that instead of two sickles
there are
a hammer and a sickle
wraith cape
going to bed, i shall dream of dusk
atomic egret
I already talked to zombie about that @copper heart
he says it'll be super easy to do
even more so because the old melee weapon was a hammer
past scarab
Got my key tonight. Really happy with it
past scarab
Need a full campaign of Klan-gibbing
copper heart
i demand COOP
atomic egret
@past scarab pax build with all of episode 1 is coming very soon
past scarab
I just appreciate a single-player indie shooter without any randomization
except for like endless or whatever
atomic egret
I saw on one video
some guy
said
"oh yeah this looks cool it should have some sort of randomization like minecraft!"
or some shit like that
past scarab
I've kind of just sworn off roguelikes and hyper-randomization recently
I've got my games I like with that, but I'm tired of it being a shortcut around design
atomic egret
procgen is lame
past scarab
it can work. Like I enjoy the original Isaac game
serene needle
@atomic egret Source to when ep 1 is coming?
exotic ibex
you have to be really unique to pull it off and make it work well
exotic ibex
ish
past scarab
But I recently played Enter the Gungeon, and it's one of those rogue-likes that flat-out tells you it's gonna waste your time by forcing you to die early for hours and hors
I don't have the time for that anymore
copper heart
i like starbounds generation, allows for mods that alter that to seamlessly enter the game
past scarab
Yeah, I mostly am talking about randomization for action games
but with DUSK and DOOM, I didn't realize how much I missed good levels and enemy placement
wraith relic
ok
get ready for me to do a nasty nitpick
the soldiers in the game don't seem too fitting
being cannon fodder compared to crazed cultists
atomic egret
yeah I agree
past scarab
I think a smattering of weak enemies works
atomic egret
I think they're just there for now and have been replaced by the black phillips though
and they will be in the second episode now instead
or whichever one is the black mesa type one
crimson folio
Brick, the 2nd episode takes place inside a military compound
past scarab
Like the zombies in DOOM were cannon fodder, but could both divide your attention but also hurt you if you ignored them
crimson folio
Yeah the enforcers
exotic ibex
if they have this much power to recruit as many cultists and give out magic
crimson folio
Jonestown had gunmen
exotic ibex
its not out of the question for a PMC to get involved
wraith relic
they could fit better as an elite cannon fodder; actually combat-trained and fast
past scarab
I mean also let's be honest. It takes place in the rural Boonies. Let's not pretend there's not militia wackjob hicks out there
crimson folio
Later on I'd love to see a backflipping, grenade tossing, badass with double machine pistols
Like the female assassins from HL
They were a pain in the ass but fun to fight
past scarab
Chaff enemies serve their place when done right like in Doom and Blood and the like
crimson folio
There should also be some kind of big bad bruiser type, like the Barons from doom
Just some kind of Satyr would own
atomic egret
@past scarab did you.. not read my message?
they've been replaced with black phillips now
past scarab
it made it sound like you were unsure, sorry
crimson folio
Suuure fucking wish I had a key right about now lol
past scarab
or were guessing. My bad
atomic egret
omfg oxy stop fucking bitching
wraith relic
my biggest nitpick though is the sound
crimson folio
The endless mode really caught my attention
crimson folio
Yeah the VO is garbage, though that's likely intentional
VA lol, it's prolly not supposed to be good
atomic egret
you fuckin talking shit about andrew's vo work
crimson folio
Yes
atomic egret
get out
opal adder
HAMMER TIME