dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk

[atomic egret]

some parts of the wall are harder to get over than others too

[quiet rose]

[atomic egret]

🤔

[quiet rose]

I have come to a conclusion that yes

OP is indeed a liar.

[atomic egret]

op being me?

[quiet rose]

[mild ginkgo]

i dont get it

i just dont

[atomic egret]

maybe it's just not meant to be

[jade root]

What are you dingus's talking about?

[crimson folio]

David is trolling you guys big time

[atomic egret]

using the gas can to jump over the wall for glitched speedrun

[mild ginkgo]

the gascan jump they use

im not trying to speedrun

i just want to make it over the wall

ive never been able to do it for whatever reason

[quiet rose]

its called "glitch" runners use cheatengine obviously

to make gascan bounce

its so OBVIOUS

[atomic egret]

when the king of dusk can't even gascan jump

[jade root]

Gilby fuckign cheaten

[crimson folio]

Steev knows what's up

[jade root]

Ban Gilby x3000

[atomic egret]

I actually thought david sneakily patched it out because it took me 20 minutes before I even made it over again

[crimson folio]

It's obvious they changed some of the values of the gas can so it gives them a bigger boost

[atomic egret]

http://i.imgur.com/RSe0x7j.png and the game had a 0 byte update before i launched it

[quiet rose]

that was being added to the game

[atomic egret]

@prisma halo texture replacement for dawn when?

I want to make tim allen mod except with steev texture

[quiet rose]

texture replacement is already possible

[prisma halo]

eventually

[mild ginkgo]

no it didnt have an update

[prisma halo]

you can replace textures manually but it won't be portable

as in, you can't release it

[atomic egret]

I know it didn't because it was 0 bytes but it came up with the dialogue saying that it had to update before I could launch it

and then proceeded to not download anything

[jade root]

Secret meme update

[quiet rose]

i heard if you hit alt then f4 you get the entirety of ep 1

[atomic egret]

yes please

[jade root]

If that doesn't work try deleting system32 then try alt+f4

[prisma halo]

and that was likely Steam syncing savedata or something

[crimson folio]

Won't deleting system32 unlock the whole game?

[quiet rose]

And if that doesnt work just hack zombies computer

[atomic egret]

yeah that would work too

[prisma halo]

hack my computer and dawn never comes out

[quiet rose]

r U better than the HACKERMAN?

[prisma halo]

🔫

[quiet rose]

we coudl always get another zombie

[jade root]

Good luck getting past zombies anime antihacks

[quiet rose]

its not hard to get some random who knows about unity these days :^)

[atomic egret]

also pulling a project valerie on the pax booth would work too

[prisma halo]

yeah, but have fun finding one that knows how to do the stuff needed to implement a modding SDK in Unity :^)

[quiet rose]

project valerie?

I can, easily. lol

[prisma halo]

because it's quite different to your usual SDK :^)

Unity is fucking weird

[atomic egret]

that razer laptop that got stolen from ces

[quiet rose]

Stop acting like you are all special n shit

:^)

[jade root]

U r fuckign weird

[quiet rose]

🔥

[mild ginkgo]

zombie is special in the heart of meat lass

and THATS what counts

[jade root]

^^

[quiet rose]

meat lass has no heart

only ass

[atomic egret]

THICC

[mild ginkgo]

when everyone else abandoned her, he was there for her

[quiet rose]

[crimson folio]

Just like u

[jade root]

Meatsass

DO IT FOR HER

[atomic egret]

THICC MEATY ASS

[quiet rose]

MeatfuckmeintheassbecauseilovejesusLass

[jade root]

Alright I should prolly sleep. Night guys

[crimson folio]

YES

[atomic egret]

still not as thicc as mei 👌🏻 👌🏻 👌🏻

[crimson folio]

(goodnight)

[jade root]

Oh I can only hope Bomt

[crimson folio]

Wait

Wake up

[jade root]

CANT WAKE UP

[crimson folio]

Why was my message deleted?

WAKE ME UP INSIDE @jade root

[atomic egret]

o dang

[quiet rose]

What message

[crimson folio]

"please never wake up"

[quiet rose]

oh

thats rude

[crimson folio]

Why

What if he lives in a good dream

[atomic egret]

was it sneaky lain

or the suspicious janitor role that jab has

[quiet rose]

maybe it was a discord error.

[atomic egret]

the world may never know

[quiet rose]

who knows

[atomic egret]

no I saw it

[crimson folio]

Please never wake up

Huh

[atomic egret]

before it got deleted

[jade root]

I saw it too

[crimson folio]

MOD ABUSE

[jade root]

Prolly discord error

[mild ginkgo]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

Shhh

[atomic egret]

WHERE ARE THE MOD MODS

[quiet rose]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

reports lain

[subtle bane]

gilby, when did you get a key?

[atomic egret]

few days ago

last wednesday according to discord

[lavish galleon]

that was the last key of the year

rip

[atomic egret]

@lavish galleon I got my key from #240196737397030922 so just make sure you're watching every channel

dave likes to drop them in quiet channels, i think because he likes to see how long it is before someone actually finds it

[exotic ibex]

top score for farm map is 11,960

[serene needle]

World at War anyone?

(Zombies)

[willow flax]

By my cuz =p

[atomic egret]

rip hank

no first 10k for you

[mild ginkgo]

no gilby thats score, not enemies killed

[exotic ibex]

ye i should've said that

i doubt he broke 200 kills

[atomic egret]

Ahhh ok makes sense

[mild ginkgo]

nobody has ever come CLOSE to his score

dude that score is like, MAYBE 100

[exotic ibex]

lmao

yeah maybe

i wanted to say i doubt he broke 100

[mild ginkgo]

i doubt it

[atomic egret]

I first saw that and thought that the update had come out and you'd already gotten 10k on it

[exotic ibex]

but i wasnt too doubtful

[mild ginkgo]

75 probs

[exotic ibex]

nah gilby.

if we're talking score then top score is 389410

but the way the score system works has been changed quit heavily

so i need to set it again when the new update hits

[atomic egret]

my wr will pretty much be null and void when pax build hits

[exotic ibex]

not quite

i dont think the demo level in its current incarnation exists

[atomic egret]

I don't know if I'll be able to set a good record full the full game

[quiet rose]

it does

Its Survival Map II now

[exotic ibex]

nah the demo level. not endless

[quiet rose]

While the new map is Survival Map 1

oh

[exotic ibex]

ye, my score is still on the line

[quiet rose]

demo house is still in it

:^)

[exotic ibex]

gilbys glitched speedrun is solidified

is it just the house or is it the entire level?

[quiet rose]

inb4 someone tas' it and tries to pass it off as human ran

and gets 16 seconds

[mild ginkgo]

House

[exotic ibex]

lol

[quiet rose]

just the house

Also i asked david if the house in e1m1 was his

"Naw its too nice to be mine" lol

[atomic egret]

I was saying that to zombie the other day lol

about the tas thing that is

[crystal vessel]

I played the first 3 levels at South and one of them had an area that was straight up from E1M2 from Doom

I was pleased

[atomic egret]

niiiiceeee

[quiet rose]

i tried to play as much of the campaign as possible but the latency fucked me so hard

i died within 8 minutes of starting it

there was a few people waiting to play so i didnt play it again

also tfw when we were going for scores in survival the difficulty was higher than anyone else who ran it

[crystal vessel]

Damn

[quiet rose]

we were on Cero miedo then Dave switched it to I can take it for the casuals

[crystal vessel]

Yeah I heard about that

Laaaaaame

[atomic egret]

god dammit dave

[quiet rose]

shouldve just put it on Accessible :^)

[atomic egret]

ooh

no pls

[past scarab]

So I'm replaying Quake for like the first time in 10 years. I forgot how good the level design is

[atomic egret]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[acoustic oriole]

been a while since I've been here

did I miss anything Dusk related from PAX East? footage? details? :P

anything new, that is

[exotic ibex]

yes, yes, yes.

cant dig up the vod atm though

[acoustic oriole]

aw shit

campaign footage?

[mild ginkgo]

its around

i played it

its good

itll be worth the wait

it has a very classic feel, the secrets are really fun

[acoustic oriole]

sounds good

how was the difficulty?

[haughty shell]

@wraith relicfight It's such a dam good game Wind Tunnels is one of the best levels

[crimson folio]

D'oh i missed!

When dusk comes out it should have a demo or a one episode "shareware" he he

[atomic egret]

I think just the level that's in the pre pre alpha would make a good demo

[crimson folio]

Yes.

the pre alpha level demo could have deathmatch / co op but. of course it would only be one level.

[gleaming berry]

so what did I miss

CURRENT PLAN FOR DUSK

FINISH EPISODE 1

SEND BUILD WITH EPISODE 1 + 2 ENDLESS LEVELS OUT FOR PREVIEWS

GIVE BUILD TO LURKERS

START WORK ON MULTIPLAYER

THAT IS ALL

GOOD DAY

[narrow mica]

what's the ETA on all this

[gleaming berry]

before the end of the month ideally

also during this time we'll look into pre orders and stuff

I need some time to focus and talk to Valve, GOG, etc

[crimson folio]

Thank you dave

[narrow mica]

is the CE still planned or are you guys gonna hold off on that until the full game launches

[crimson folio]

🙏

I can't wait to try out Episode 2

[verbal sand]

what's the ce?

[mild ginkgo]

Woah wait

MP this early?

I expected it post launch.

[verbal sand]

well working on it

not made yet

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah I didn't expect development to start till post launch

[narrow mica]

the CE is the collectors edition

iirc dave wanted a big box release with a manual, jewel case with cd and leatherneck action figure included

[verbal sand]

there probably isn't going to be one until post-launch because its expensie to produce

[mild ginkgo]

Nah they will

They've already mocked up the leatherneck figure

[verbal sand]

oh cooll

[gleaming berry]

well we want to make sure we can get MP working now before it's too late

MP will be a separate .exe you can launch on its own

same as like Doom and CoD and stuff

so MP doesnt fuck up the campaign

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah I expected that

[gleaming berry]

you'll get a steam window when you launch

like SGS EX or Classic

[mild ginkgo]

Would require a ton of work to integrate well

Smart choice

[gleaming berry]

@thorn trout is gonna finish up Ep1 til it's in a good enough state for us to send out and then get to work on MP

or so he says

[thorn trout]

yup that's the plan

@mild ginkgo it's eventually implementing co-op that I'm worried about. That's going to be a complete mess.

Expect it to be a post-launch update.

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah porting the maps to MP is probs the way to go

Sven coop style

[thorn trout]

that's true, that could be an option

it's stuff like physics etc that are going to cause issues

nothing in sp was coded with multiplayer in mind

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah lol, that's why I was worried about it/figured you'd leave it to the end

Buts that's cool and a good solution to just separate it out

[thorn trout]

yeah I think it shouldn't be too big a deal to do vs that way. Just copy over the needed assets/prefabs and modify them to work in multiplayer. Then yeah, maybe trying to eventually use modified maps for co-op in the same exe as vs will ultimately be the best solution.

[mild ginkgo]

^

Friendly fire on :^)

[thorn trout]

hahaha it definitely needs to be an option, for maximum chaos

this is one of those situations where I'm kicking myself for not planning ahead better. But I also didn't plan for anything multiplayer-related until a lot of systems were already in place. So at that point I figured I'd just focus on singleplayer and deal with multiplayer when I had to

[mild ginkgo]

Yeah. MP is a huge pill to swallow if youre just starting a project like you did with dusk

[thorn trout]

oh well, lesson learned for next time.

[mild ginkgo]

Dusk 2 confirmed

[dusty blaze]

but when is duks coming out?

🦆

[prisma halo]

multiplayer being a separate exe?

that's... an interesting approach, I wonder how you'll make that work with Unity

without doubling the game's file size

[thorn trout]

vs multiplayer project will just have the assets needed for vs multiplayer, so I'll just gut/modify them without having to worry about how it will affect other stuff

[prisma halo]

ah

so you're gonna split it into technically a separate game while the main codebase is refactored post-launch?

[thorn trout]

yeah

[prisma halo]

neat, that should make things easier at least

[thorn trout]

yeah I think

[slate edge]

ikea furniture box playermodel

[prisma halo]

soap playermodel*

[slate edge]

huniepop playermodels

living bacon

[neat shadow]

TCP based p2p network

which lead me to this : will there be a linux dedicated server dusk console? @thorn trout

[prisma halo]

p2p

pls no

[neat shadow]

yeah that's major pain

tcp for an fps is death too

[prisma halo]

p2p more like painful2play

[dusty blaze]

IPX or GTFO

[neat shadow]

with ipv6 compatibility because that's required nowadays

[slate edge]

wat about UDP?

or whatever quake 1 used xD

[neat shadow]

that's still the actual standard

[dusty blaze]

IPX

[neat shadow]

only for videogames tho

[dusty blaze]

Well doom 1 and 2, RotT, Duke, and Heritic, System Shock 2, and more.

Though SS2 was a mod.

[neat shadow]

TCP is waaaaaay slower

[dusty blaze]

https://jclarchive.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/classic-multiplayer-gaming-via-dosbox-serial-and-ipx-tunneling/

[neat shadow]

Tcp check each packges each time. udp just spew them out and is not conserned about what happened to them

IPX died in 98

[dusty blaze]

Quake 1...

1996

"or whatever quake 1 used xD"

[neat shadow]

quake 3 used it too apparently

[dusty blaze]

Yeah for private matches over dialup.

same with System Shock 2 mod.

and a few of the pirate UO servers.

Ultima Online

I think the CnC game that was re-released doesn't have working MP unless you play LAN. So getting the old program and running it in dosbox and tunneling might work.

[neat shadow]

god bless dosbox

[dusty blaze]

Though Zandorum helps for all your doomy goodness, without being a pain in the ass.

[neat shadow]

only problem is mod support

brb, I hope to get an answer tho 'bout that sweet server making

[slate edge]

newbuildwhen

[lavish galleon]

2024

[autumn compass]

problably soon

since pax has just finished

[hexed roost]

ETA 2-3 months lol

[crystal vessel]

Welp

[autumn compass]

k

[exotic ibex]

david works super ahrd yo. i would be surprised if we dont get the build by the end of the month

[autumn compass]

yea

[hexed roost]

i wouldn't want David to finish the second episode in 2 weeks, that's an insane amount of pressure for one human being

let alone finalize the first in that time period

that would be an immense undertaking

[exotic ibex]

i hope you simply misread that statement and not assume david is finishing up episode two before we get it

[crimson folio]

There's a name for something like that, "crunching" or something

[exotic ibex]

theres two endless levels and episode 1

hes saying david will polish up episode 1, send that build to reviewers and then to us

[crimson folio]

It's possible to get an insane amount of work in one day but it'd be exhausting, I think they're making enough progress as is

[hexed roost]

"EPISODE 1+2"

OH

[crystal vessel]

• 2 endless missions

[hexed roost]

ok

i get it now

hehebehe

[exotic ibex]

heres the second part for you lazy fucks

[hexed roost]

nice dude smoke

[crimson folio]

Sounds like they already have work on episode 2 then? It'd be dumb to work on stuff in order

[exotic ibex]

yeah, i would assume theres work done on E2 but nothing in a playable state

[crimson folio]

Pretty much

Grr I'm still pissed off at Strafe's delay

AND IF I HEAR THAT ONE FUCKING MIAMOTO QUOTE ONE MORE TIME

[exotic ibex]

"the pizza is almost done, its just soggy in the middle. it needs a bit more time than we thought to fully cook" we'll get over it fam

[crimson folio]

YOU HAD 2 WEEKS LEFT! JUST PATCH THE REST IF YOU MUST

[exotic ibex]

nah, theres very real problems that couldnt be fixed in two weeks

[crimson folio]

They haven't updated their website since September, some of their most recent gameplay videos are from last year's PAX, there's 1 part missing from a 6 part video series they were doing, you can see why I'm "salty" (god that's such a stupid fucking term)

[exotic ibex]

id rather they focus on the actual product then the marketing atm. you'll get over it fam. i already did.

[crimson folio]

They had a bunch of gameplay videos and news rolling in most of last year, than POOF

It's such shit because I'm not getting my Switch until at least April 20th so I was hoping it would hold me over, now I'm playing my switch while waiting for strafe

I'm excited for this game too but I know it's a long ways off

I at least know my computer should be able to handle this game, I was gonna have to get Strafe on my PS4

I won't fully know if I'll even be able to play this game until I get a key, becuz new builds and optimizations and all that. If my computer can't run the alpha or something I'll see if the finished product runs better. Either way, I'm pretty excited for this game but it's looking to go down the same road as Strafe

[jade root]

#bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

every time I see that you're typing I grimace

[jade root]

Every time I see your piss poor attitude I feel sorry for the people in this discord

And #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[crimson folio]

I'm still talking about the game mate

[jade root]

Or dm if you want to continue sperging

[crimson folio]

I'm not gonna get all special snowflake but come on

I should've never even brought that up lol,

[jade root]

Good, you acknowledged your own problem

[crimson folio]

Uh no, I was referring to me talking about me being an aspie (word filter don't screw me now)

I mentioned it sometime I think yesterday, which is probably why you said what I was doing was "sperging" either way I won't get all up in arms about it,

[lyric spruce]

I'm just gonna say I don't see how Dusk will fail release dates when it has none set.

[crimson folio]

I wasn't talking about the delay part, I was talking about the news drought part

[lyric spruce]

If you engage hype at the wrong time it screws you over because people forget about you

Ideally you want to have people most interested just before release

[crimson folio]

Where we get a big boom of info at once then nothing for months, rather than a steady consistent stream. Though I can't really ask for anything lest I be considered a "selfish asshole who's demanding things"

Right now it looks like we'll have more news by the end of the month, sounds rad

[lyric spruce]

It's possible there's just not much to report. Most people don't want to hear "Yeah well we refactored a few thousand lines of code" as news

[crimson folio]

Yeah they tell us that anyway lol

[lyric spruce]

Then you're still getting news

[crimson folio]

Not interesting news, nor news really worth reading but news nonetheless

Some games have been worse than Strafe when it comes to news. Scorn and ROUTINE come to mind

[gleaming berry]

YR4LY-N3R3V-PD4GN

DONT @ ME

[crimson folio]

Damn it, who doesn't have a key?

@radiant venture

[lyric spruce]

Gawt it

Thanks bruh

[crimson folio]

Nice

Congratulations

GLHF

[lyric spruce]

no steam install option

:^(

brb 1 sec fixing thingy

So assuming that I have this in my library, how do I opt in to the beta?

/alpha

[crimson folio]

You don't

Just play the game

[lyric spruce]

:^(

I mean there's no install option

[crimson folio]

Wierd

[lyric spruce]

http://puu.sh/uIWSd/1e0c15cf33.png

[crimson folio]

Lol wtf

[thorn trout]

wat

[lyric spruce]

I dunno man

I've never seen this before, even the right click context menu doesn't have inteall

[crimson folio]

Damn, Dave is gone lol

[lyric spruce]

I'm retarting steam in case that does something

[crimson folio]

@gleaming berry @gleaming berry @gleaming berry @gleaming berry

CUM BACK

[jade root]

BAD KEY

[lyric spruce]

Hahah it's still busted wtf

[jade root]

DAVE IS HACK

[lyric spruce]

http://puu.sh/uIX6f/7cf6cc6b9a.png

:^)

0 Luck stat m8

[jade root]

thats negative luck

ask for a refund

[lyric spruce]

Is there only a Linux/Mac build up rn or soething?

[crimson folio]

You don't have a windows? @lyric spruce

[lyric spruce]

I'm on Windows but this problem can happen on steam if no build of the game is for windows

or whatever your OS is

[jade root]

nah theres a windows build

[lyric spruce]

Is it blocked in Canada?

[jade root]

NO CANADIANS ALLOWED LOL

jk i dunno

[crimson folio]

My man

It was here in Georgia

I mean

[jade root]

people in norway can play dusk so i dont see why it would be blocked and canada

[crimson folio]

It's not locked here

[lyric spruce]

I guess I'll just have to be happy hogging a 100% useless key

[crimson folio]

If it's not locked here then it should be the same everywhere

[radiant venture]

I'm playing Quake, can't pay attention to keys

[verbal sand]

crap

[crimson folio]

MOTHER FUCKER FOR FUCK SAKES

[radiant venture]

ty anyway :))) @crimson folio

[crimson folio]

You're welcome

[lyric spruce]

I robbed you all and I can't even play it

This feels the same as successfully winning an invasion in DS3 tbh

[crimson folio]

Ugh I'll wait till tomorrow I guess

Can't fucking believe I missed it goddammit

Who doesn't have a key already.

[radiant venture]

@lyric spruce you got it fair and square tho

[slate edge]

Just buy it at launch, it`s worth it

gives you something to look forward to.

[crimson folio]

I could go on and on about how waiting is the last thing I want to do right now

I've got a lot of things to look forward to already and I've been fucked by all of them

[verbal sand]

just 3 guys it seems

me brfld jenrik, oxyeous

[crimson folio]

Goddammit so now I can't spend a single waking moment away until I can get a key. Goddammit.

[autumn compass]

just wait for turok 2

[verbal sand]

so like 4 days and we'll get one

geno you own the game

[crimson folio]

All I've done is wait lol

Has he ever dropped more than 1 in a day? Because if not than I can rest easy (or pissed off) the rest of the day

Until tomorrow, when I talk about Quake incessantly and wait for the nix fucking random drop.

[radiant venture]

your time will come, just as it was for the rest of the people

[crimson folio]

I've been told that about relationships too

And getting a job

Fucking fantastic. I can't spend a moment away now. Whatever build it is, it'll hold me over till I get my switch

[radiant venture]

I don't wanna be that guy, but whining about it ain't gonna solve anything

[crimson folio]

You're right maybe I should just pretend to be happy lol

Either way you're cool, and thanks for not being a jackass about it. I'll just tear my hair out while I wait

[radiant venture]

missing a key isn't a big deal for me, I've missed a lot of them doing other stuff. it also means that someone else is getting the game and that's great for them, so I'm cool with it¨

[crimson folio]

brfld

More like cool guy

[radiant venture]

lol

[autumn compass]

dont worry

turok 2 will be here on thursday and keep us company

[radiant venture]

oh I have 2 Quakes, path of exile and a bass guitar to occupy myself with 👌

[crimson folio]

So is the key build like the pre alpha one thats in all the videos or has it been updated?

[autumn compass]

its the pre-alpha

we expect to have the new build atleast at the end of this month

or i am atleast

[jade root]

yeah ep 1 prolly by the end of this month

[autumn compass]

hopefully

[jade root]

then David will focus on MP

[autumn compass]

ye

[crimson folio]

Oh so some shareware full 90s stuff, cool

[jade root]

yep

but the DUSK key IS the game

[crimson folio]

Further incentive to never pry my eyes away from this discord

[jade root]

so when the game comes out itll update to the full thing

[crimson folio]

My comp could handle the extremely early alpha stuff, obviously the recent builds will be much different but it should run fine

[jade root]

it should be fine

the pre-pre alpha isnt optimized at all and it still runs well

[crimson folio]

Ugh thats what I'm hoping, my pc couldn't run strafe's demo all that well and they've said it's a chugger

This game obviously won't be released on consoles so this is really my final gambit

[subtle bane]

man, I missed another one

just got back from boxing and was watching this discord, started to smell foul so I had to go for shower 😦 damn you health and hygiene!

[blissful furnace]

Another code was spilled?

[subtle bane]

indeed, an hour and a half ago

[blissful furnace]

Fuck

Are there specific days for code posts? Or is it random as guessed?

[jade root]

random

whenever Dave feels like it

[gleaming berry]

yeah it's pretty random

[fair mirage]

randem xd

[crimson folio]

Yeah, we can tell

[gleaming berry]

WHY IS THE STORE PAGE NOT PINNED

http://store.steampowered.com/app/519860/

brb dinner

[fair mirage]

because

that's why

[graceful wing]

links to all the games are in #info but i guess it's good to have it pinned on here too

[slate edge]

this store page still isnt pinned

xD

[fair mirage]

lmao dave

you pinned the first message dood

not the link itself

[lyric spruce]

Gah shit I missed him

Gotta ask what's up with the key

[graceful wing]

dave pinned the wrong message heh. gonna fix

[hexed roost]

i've never seen anything like your fucked up key

[lyric spruce]

I assure you this level of unluck is normal for me

[hexed roost]

only thing i can guess is that you got some weird non-testing key

in-which case you should be able to remove it from your library via the support website and get a new one from dave

[lyric spruce]

We'll see what he says

[gleaming berry]

whats wrong with it?

iz just a key

[hexed roost]

of course, now he's gone

he got some crazy version of dusk that he can't install lol

he just gets this

when he right clicks the game in steam there aren't an options to install

he's tried restarting steam and all the usual jazz

[lyric spruce]

Oh sorry

Was also eating

There's no play button and no install option when I use the right click context menu @gleaming berry

If you've got the keys separated into alpha test and ones for the full game I think this might be a full game one

[gleaming berry]

theyre all the same

I only give out one kind of key

thats odd

[lyric spruce]

http://puu.sh/uJb87/26e3df9ff2.png Well this is what I've got

[gleaming berry]

theyre set to override whatever

lemme go look at steamworks 1 sec

[lyric spruce]

k

[verbal sand]

maybe send him a drm-free build

[fair mirage]

steam's prolly blowin it

[hexed roost]

if all else fails, xangi remove DUSK from your library via the support website and get a new key PM'd to you

[fair mirage]

also i don't think dusk in its current form has DRM

[hexed roost]

also possible you redeemed it when steam was dying on tuesday and shit broke

[lyric spruce]

Yeah... goddamnit steam

[verbal sand]

i thought all steam games were included ith drm

[fair mirage]

no

for example, the older ID games don't have drm

[graceful wing]

this is likely a problem with steam and not the game itself

[fair mirage]

quake series, ulti/doom 2

[verbal sand]

yeah

maybe send him the files

[fair mirage]

but obv, you still get them from steam

[lyric spruce]

Yeah i can't even get the files at all

[gleaming berry]

oh yeah its tuesday

[lyric spruce]

Fug

[gleaming berry]

u might hve fucked up

[lyric spruce]

FUG

[gleaming berry]

cuz tuesday night is for maintenance

[lyric spruce]

AGH

[gleaming berry]

so maybe wait a bit

is forums down

[lyric spruce]

No

[hexed roost]

no it's back up now

[lyric spruce]

I'm fine with waiting a bit

[graceful wing]

steam://run/519860 try this maybe

[lyric spruce]

Nope

[graceful wing]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric spruce]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed roost]

i say after 24 hours we turn to more drastic measures

we go into the steam

[lyric spruce]

After 24 hours I start work on DUSKDoom, a mod where I make sprite rips of all the enemies from youtube videos and attempt to remake the game in an engine it's not meant for

Then I give steam's badministrator a dead link to it

[austere egret]

What happened with dusk?

[lyric spruce]

Steam's broke yo

[hexed roost]

dave griefed him

with a fake key

[austere egret]

Oh no

[hexed roost]

he actually got MUSK

not DUSK

the stinky alternative version that doesn't work

[lyric spruce]

That'll teach me to buy the new ROTT, enjoy it, then trust a guy associated with it

:^)

[graceful wing]

DUSK is fake too though

the real game is DUKS

ain't that right @thorn trout

[thorn trout]

shhhhhh don't let the secret out

[lyric spruce]

How do I get in on this pyramid scheme?

[crimson folio]

Or quakes not so popular expansion, quak

[lyric spruce]

And it's sequel MAALDR

That might be a bit too much of a shuffle/corruption

[graceful wing]

DUKS can only be bought from the deep web

[lyric spruce]

Good thing I have Tor right here :^)

[graceful wing]

good luck with the search

[crimson folio]

Where can I buy Quak?

[wraith cape]

in specially marked boxes of Aflac cereal.

[crimson folio]

i NEED dusk

THe fuck are you talking about dude we all need it?

I woudl sell my soul just to get the Pre alpha. or any alpha.

would

This "luck of the draw" shit is certainly bullshit, but it's better that at least some people get to play it before launch rather than we all wait

It's random, but never more than 1 per day it looks like.

No point in obsessing over it, just keep a sharp eye but know you have competition

okay

[jade root]

Codes are prolly gonna get sparser as they approach release

I've already noticed a dip

[crimson folio]

Fucking great then....

Well I'll still hold out hope

[jade root]

Back in October it was almost everyday

[crimson folio]

I'm here for more than just free shit

[graceful wing]

the point of this server isn't to give away free stuff anyways

[jade root]

Had a key before this discord

I just joined because Bread joined

Then bread became a twat

Ooops did I say that out loud

[crimson folio]

Self awareness level: 0

They said there'd be a new video, likely edited VOD footage by week's end so that's pretty gud

[jade root]

Mhm you can dig through the twitch vod footage or the full thing will be on the New Blood YouTube this week

[crimson folio]

Prolly won't be anything too new because why would there be but I'll still watch it

[jade root]

Well what have you seen?

Cause they show off the beginning of e1m1

[crimson folio]

Lotta youtubers did the pre alpha, there was one vid of survival mode at PAX that was put out a few days ago by a different guy

And I know I need dis game

[jade root]

So you'll see something new then

[crimson folio]

Aight

[jade root]

Only a little bit

But it should be enough

[crimson folio]

Sonic mania really pulled the wool over our eyes with their latest "announcement" lol

But they're keeping all the goodies till thursday's panel

[jade root]

What was the lastest announcement?

[crimson folio]

Act 2 of remixed green hill zone, without the 2nd act track and no boss. They announced a new enemy called the "Hard Boiled Heavies"

We have a screencap of Studiopolis's Act 1 boss and art of an HBH, plus the Act 2 footage but that's about it

But if it really is out by the end of spring (no pun intended) than I'm hoping it's late april, right around when I can expect my switch

I wanna know who that chillin' villain is on Mirage Saloon's portraits

[crimson folio]

"I'm here for more than just free shit" same here.

[gleaming berry]

OH SNAP

https://twitter.com/DaveOshry/status/841849325051355136

[crimson folio]

but i dont want to make a twitter account 😦

[exotic ibex]

rip

[past linden]

Well, then no key for you

[crimson folio]

k

[crimson folio]

@gleaming berry @ing Dave is 👌🏻

[atomic egret]

you're playing with fire

[crimson folio]

@atomic egret But I am fire

[atomic egret]

you're on thin ice

[crimson folio]

😉

@gleaming berry only lurkers @ Dave

[atomic egret]

do you have a banwish

[crimson folio]

nah nah I'm just playing around xD

plus I already own Dusk so I ain't no lurker you dig?

[atomic egret]

lots of lurkers own dusk

cause they take it and don't say anything

[crimson folio]

^^ 😉

something

Some people like me still want a key but are more than willing to participate in interesting convos

ye I do when I have time, but my best tip to get a key...

just @ dave every morning at 5:00 😉

Nah I don't want to get banned

[atomic egret]

dave will fight you

i've seen him do it

[crimson folio]

Dave^

yo Dave diggy dog gimme a 2nd key will ya?

[rough wharf]

nuuuuuu gimme the second key ;w;

[quiet rose]

!keyfaq

[hollow ivy]

"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.

[rough wharf]

churbot

you're meaan

[atomic egret]

[fair mirage]

[atomic egret]

[hexed roost]

d-dusk isn't g-general 2!!! >（ ；´Д｀）<

[fair mirage]

n0

[atomic egret]

I thought about saying that

but then I thought

nah

[crimson folio]

Blasting off into the Churriest of Heavens, where i will forever be graced with hot churros and Churs galore.

[atomic egret]

@quiet rose what difficulty would you compare the pre pre alpha to? I can take it or easier?

[crimson folio]

@thorn trout I need a mobile wallpaper for Dusk, who would work on those?

[atomic egret]

You, get cracking @crimson folio

[crimson folio]

@atomic egret I'm terrible with every drawing software but Adobe Illustrator tho

[lyric spruce]

@gleaming berry DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE http://puu.sh/uK0Ek/453eeca3f1.png

[jade root]

Rip

[lyric spruce]

For fook's sake

[mild ginkgo]

What did you do for karma to hate you?

Pupper murder?

[jade root]

Prolly kicked a pup-yep

[prisma ivy]

He lurked.

[lyric spruce]

Nah I just have bad luck

All the time

Literally since I was born

[exotic ibex]

👍

[jade root]

Respec

[lyric spruce]

Never

[gleaming berry]

did that DUSK key ever fix itself?

[thorn trout]

@lyric spruce

[lyric spruce]

Oh, sorry, no

[gleaming berry]

P6TBM-6WN76-F6MXE

try dis one

idk

[lyric spruce]

Thanks, I'll try

http://puu.sh/uK9dj/37bd646407.png

[thorn trout]

-____-

[lyric spruce]

🤷

[thorn trout]

Steam fail

[lyric spruce]

I dunno man, this shit's weird

[graceful wing]

so this is a package misconfiguration then. should be fixable in steamworks

[exotic ibex]

rip

[gleaming berry]

hmm so I got the wrong keys?

cuz I didnt request anything special

[graceful wing]

yea up to dave or whoever has actual authority to fix. package edits are pretty high up the role tree from what i remember

[lyric spruce]

:^|

Well, I'd like to stay and try to fix it but I've gotta go fix my grandfather's computer or something.

[gleaming berry]

I mean we haven't changed anything

[graceful wing]

i dunno, might be best to give your valve contact a message

[lyric spruce]

Very sorry but it's kinda urgent cause he can't pay his bills until I do it

[graceful wing]

maybe something was changed automatically

[lyric spruce]

I'll be back though

[gleaming berry]

ill go fuck around in steamworks see what I can do

[exotic ibex]

@gleaming berry can you check what account redeemed what keys?

[graceful wing]

my knowledge of steamworks is pretty limited unfortunately so can't be of much help here 😦

[exotic ibex]

maybe a simple revoking and giving him another key might work?

[lyric spruce]

Well it'll have to wait until ~6PM EST when I get back.

Again, super sorry

[exotic ibex]

r

i

p

[lyric spruce]

If it wasn't "I'm behind 2 weeks on payments and the computer won't take the thing" I'd stay

[gleaming berry]

hmm I mean I selected release state override

anyway requested keys for beta testing this time

50 more inc

SORRY GUY

[lyric spruce]

NO PROBLEMO

[prisma ivy]

Oh shit was I not supposed to use that key?

[autumn compass]

lel

[graceful wing]

oh that might be it heh

[prisma ivy]

No I did it jest a second ago

[exotic ibex]

it would've given him a different error

[graceful wing]

if you got release keys for an unreleased game

[prisma ivy]

It worked but Ive got the same issue as him

[exotic ibex]

if you try to redeem a key for a game you already have it tells you dupilicate code for X game

[graceful wing]

beta testing keys override the launch date check

whoever redeemed the release key might need to ask valve to remove the license though since it's the same app ID

[exotic ibex]

you can remove a game from your library yourself

through the same methods as refunding

just a different tab

[graceful wing]

most of them atleast

[prisma ivy]

How do you do that?

Steam support is not great

[exotic ibex]

help > steam support > dusk

[graceful wing]

some won't work, notably beta and autogrant licenses

[exotic ibex]

from there you can choose remove game from library.

but i wouldnt fuck with that just yet

at least i wouldnt. you do you

[crimson folio]

What's happening?

[exotic ibex]

but the publisher can revoke keys and you can remove games yourself

bugs

also a key dropped

:^)

[prisma ivy]

Some DUSK games wont allow downlaods

*downloads

[crimson folio]

Damn

[prisma ivy]

:(

[exotic ibex]

dave will find out wtf happened and make it right

[crimson folio]

I'll wait for another one

[prisma ivy]

Dave will save us

[graceful wing]

i'm not sure if the publisher can directly remove keys. i think it has to be requested from valve

same way as the keys themselves need to be requested

[prisma ivy]

Yeah a developer cant just revoke a key

[crimson folio]

I don't have a key yet, how would that work?

[exotic ibex]

they can remove keys

the dawn of war 3 beta funtcioned this way

[graceful wing]

nah we're talking about the guy who got a release key instead of a beta testing key by accident

[exotic ibex]

they gave you a key and at the end of the beta a window popped up saying "this key has been revoked by the publisher : Dawn of War 3 BETA"

[graceful wing]

so he cn't install or play the game

[prisma ivy]

So is that what I have as well?

[graceful wing]

possibly

[prisma ivy]

Alright

[graceful wing]

does your licenses page say DUSK or DUSK for beta testing?

[exotic ibex]

im sure the p[ublisher can revoke any of the keys. idk i could be wrong

[graceful wing]

DUSK for beta testing is what you want

[prisma ivy]

Just DUSK

[graceful wing]

then you have the same issue

[exotic ibex]

wait, where do you see the liscenses?

[prisma ivy]

Steam library

[graceful wing]

account details

[prisma ivy]

OH

wait a sec

[mild ginkgo]

https://store.steampowered.com/account/

[graceful wing]

^

[mild ginkgo]

thats what you want

[exotic ibex]

ah ye okay

[graceful wing]

if your key says just DUSK then ye you'll need a beta testing key instead. up to @gleaming berry to fix

[prisma ivy]

Yeah I've got normal DUSK

In licenses

[graceful wing]

yea that's no good 😦

probably best for you and the other guy to go into DMs with dave

basically remove that license and replace it with a beta testing license is what you gotta get done

[exotic ibex]

not now though. i think dave is already working on that or needs to wait for valvo

[prisma ivy]

Yeah

[graceful wing]

he just requested new keys i think. they'll take a bit to go through

[prisma ivy]

He may just want to remove mine because he was trying to give that key to the other guy

Wich is fine

I didn't earn it :(

[graceful wing]

up to him

[exotic ibex]

they were both faulty keys anyway

[graceful wing]

anyways gonna go take a shower. afk for a bit

[exotic ibex]

rip avain

hes dead

[gleaming berry]

I requested 50 more BETA keys

these should work

[jade root]

screw moderation, i suppose

[exotic ibex]

and what if they dont dave?

WHAT IF THEY DONT?!

[jade root]

dave is gonna cause the real riot

[lavish galleon]

opens steam quickly

[jade root]

send one to Xangi to make sure they work

since you fucked him over

[radiant venture]

"fucked over" is a bit of an overstatement?

[jade root]

understatement

[lavish galleon]

lol

I agree

gets a key... for retail release

[jade root]

well the key is retail release technically

[lavish galleon]

yeah I know

[jade root]

cause itll update to the full thing

[lavish galleon]

thats what makes it an understatement

he gets to play the game, but it might take a while

[crimson folio]

Can't these antics wait until I'm done playing Quake?

[lavish galleon]

Never

oh fuck yeah boys, Trailer Park Boys Season 11 trailer just released

[crimson folio]

The Who's Your Daddy devs put a bunch of codes into a jpeg and told us to get to work one time

[radiant venture]

good thing I'm a migraine boiii, no video games today

[lavish galleon]

@crimson folio thats like Viscera Cleanup Santa's Rampage

[jade root]

i guess your brain is a fluid

[radiant venture]

right now, absolutely

[crimson folio]

Nuclear Throne did something similar once

[lyric spruce]

Turns out his motherboard is fried

gg grandpa

[crimson folio]

What?

[verbal sand]

huh

[past linden]

Wait, a dev can just take away keys at any time?

I best be nice to Dave.

[fair mirage]

they can, steam itself can too

just there's likely not a reason for it to get taken

at least, ones you've obtained from dave

[lavish galleon]

A lot of shitty asset flip devs remove keys if you give bad reviews... They in turn get kicked off of steam.

[austere egret]

Asset flipers are cancer

[slate edge]

Asset flippers arent devs

[austere egret]

^^^

[slate edge]

They arent even adults, at least, not mentally.

[lavish galleon]

Yeah

[slate edge]

But.....Dusk is good

lets not devolve into general chat xD

[lavish galleon]

They're scam artists that make us actual devs look like shit because they just want money for nothing (and the chicks are free).

But Dusk is good because the dev isn't buying store assets and stealing community code

[slate edge]

Well, its a good game too

[lavish galleon]

Personally, just passing those two factors on Unity makes it good in my eyes.

[austere egret]

It is, its the crappy devs and asset flippers that ruin its name

[lavish galleon]

Also it's lighting and the fact that up until 2015 their licensing was pretty fucking awful

[thorn trout]

I have a few store assets for things like color effects and stuff, but everything model/texture/important is custom

[austere egret]

Which is good

[lavish galleon]

Yeah, but I assume that's all core engine stuff?

Basically plugins

[thorn trout]

yeah exactly

[lavish galleon]

Plugins are fine, that makes sense. But to just grab asset packs and premade levels and build that with the base fps controller and try sell it on Steam...

[thorn trout]

just plugin stuff

I can't imagine using pre-made assets for levels/characters/weapons etc

it's like just giving over to making a generic game

[lavish galleon]

Neither can I but I've argued with many people who think it's fine

[thorn trout]

well I do have friends who use purchased assets to good effect, but... yeah, for my part I Can't imagine using them

[lavish galleon]

Exactally. I learnt Blender on top of programming to make sure I could handle it all myself if I needed.

People who go "it's to hard" annoy the shit out of me

[crimson folio]

@thorn trout why do the Dusk pistols release the full bullet rather than spent shells?

[austere egret]

Shhhh

[lavish galleon]

Because it's the 90s

[austere egret]

its a secret

[crimson folio]

plz fix

[lavish galleon]

Never

And clips will now be called mags

[crimson folio]

then why can't I shove them back into a mag?

[lavish galleon]

And mags will be called bullet boxes.

We're taking this train right off the fucking tracks

[graceful wing]

and bullet boxes will be called ammunition container units

[thorn trout]

because I didn't want to spend the energy to create different models :). It's fixed now.

[lavish galleon]

And ammunition container units will be called big clip holster box

[thorn trout]

shell casings are actually shell casings now

[prisma ivy]

Guns are just ammo dispersal units

[graceful wing]

^

[lavish galleon]

Nope. I am Dusk dev, trust me. Shell casings are what you put into your magazine.

[graceful wing]

and enemies are ammo receival stations

[lavish galleon]

Haha, that needs to be a thing

[graceful wing]

hey it worka in games with arrows, you can go retrieve some from corpses

why shouldn't it work like that for bullets too?

[lavish galleon]

Just put a bit of gunpowder back in the casing, superglue the bullet in and reload it.

[graceful wing]

^

[crimson folio]

Its all smushed or fragmented

[lavish galleon]

Doesn't matter, super glue will fix it

[graceful wing]

and if that doesn't work there's duct tape

[lavish galleon]

It would also make a funny game mechanic. Just pulling fragments of bullet out of someone and making a new bullet with it just because youre out of ammo

Ohh I forgot about duct tape

[ruby pewter]

Man, dusk's gaphics really scaled up quite a bit

[slate edge]

needs more bacon

[past linden]

[crimson folio]

darn. i missed the key drop.

[prisma halo]

@ruby pewter that's actually Dusk 2

oh and @thorn trout not sure if I pointed it out to you yet but the normals on the bullet models are inverted

so you can see the interior of the model through the exterior

https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwFwW0OgyAMANC7cADKl6v1NgQJmmlLoGY_lt19733NMy6zmUO1zw1gP2eRsdupMnKrtom0q-Z-Tlvkhqyay3FX1gkhuRTD4onIYVwpJQjkPK0YcQkvT8kjwsNvlg_bzs38_gj8Iu8.XX7Tsky-SI4VSrcrihqz_nMg9JE?width=1076&height=632 screenie I took a couple days ago

[thorn trout]

yeah sometimes it happens with the alpha blended particle shader. The normals are actually fine. I just need to switch them to a different material.

[prisma halo]

ah, I see

[crimson folio]

when will the update release for Dusk?

[prisma halo]

some time near the end of the month, last I heard

or was it next month? I forget

[crimson folio]

ah alrighty, I'm eager to get my hands on some new content 😉

[exotic ibex]

dave said they're aiming for the end of the month but it could take a little longer

so its the dreaded soon

[atomic egret]

have faith

[crimson folio]

I had faith on Strafe

Look where that got me

[prisma halo]

Strafe's combat looks really weightless from what I've seen

the weapons lack punch

[crimson folio]

I also had faith I'd see my switch by the end of the month

[prisma halo]

and the ragdolls are too floaty

[crimson folio]

I was an idiot

[prisma halo]

so combat appears to look really unsatisfying

I haven't actually played it though so I can't confirm it, but it definitely looks that way

[crimson folio]

I'm excited but not hyped so yeah

[exotic ibex]

1. #bnnuy-and-the-jits so you nerds dont get yelled at. 2. they delayed the game and one of the reasons why was that zombie

[crimson folio]

If you get hyped you better prepare to pull the trigger on that gun you were pointing at your foot

[verbal sand]

maybe thats why there delaying it

its becuase they're noticing games like dusk filling a very simaler role

and they're probably gonna polish it a bit

[rotund dove]

yo what's goin on dusk boys

[crimson folio]

Fucking nada

[rotund dove]

rip

[crimson folio]

cheese

[austere egret]

FOR EVERYBODY

HAHA

[crimson folio]

yes

Should Dusk have a demo when it comes out? Yes or No?

[austere egret]

Sure

[crimson folio]

Well did Quake have a shareware episode? If they're going for the full 90s experience

The answer is YES MATES

[austere egret]

Thats a good Idea

[thorn trout]

Demo possibly. Full shareware episode definitely not. In this day and age most players would be satisfied just finishing that and never purchasing the full game.

[atomic egret]

yep

that's what I said yesterday

[prisma halo]

The demo level on Steam is more than enough to get people to buy the game anyways

Certainly won me over

[atomic egret]

again

[thorn trout]

it's a shame--doing shareware would be an awesome nod to the 90s--but it's just a way different culture nowadays

[atomic egret]

that's what I said yesterday

hey at least there's a demo

that's still more than most

[prisma halo]

I still laugh at Bethesda originally wanting to pull the Doom 4 demo from Steam

[atomic egret]

what was the demo like?

[prisma halo]

it's just the first level

arguably the worst level in the game tbh

[atomic egret]

yeah

[unreal token]

is this going to have a level editor? I think I'd love to try my hand at making a map

[atomic egret]

probably after release

[exotic ibex]

was it from the alatar to the facility?

[prisma halo]

brb heading back to class

[exotic ibex]

or was it the altar to the elevator?

[prisma halo]

altar to end of level

I think

[atomic egret]

@thorn trout will there be a retail release or is it too early to tell

like a boxed copy

[prisma halo]

(and yes they've already shown it off, partially, it looks awesome)

ANYWAY BRB

[exotic ibex]

if its to the facility then thats a decent demo level i guess. if it was to the elevator than it was a shitty demo

but it unlocked denuvo for doom

lmao

oh shit right #bnnuy-and-the-jits

[atomic egret]

I remember that

[thorn trout]

yeah we're planning a big box CE

[atomic egret]

OOOOO BOY

any idea how much it will cost?

[wraith cape]

there were fewer games back then too and not the kind of access to them like we have today with Steam. Less choice = more chance of person buying your game after playing the shareware.

[unreal token]

more like what bloody goodies are gonna be in it

[atomic egret]

FULL COLOUR MANUAL PLS

[unreal token]

also this is like my first time speaking, being a lurker for like a month or so...

[thorn trout]

no official price yet, not sure what it will contain. Likely at the very least the soundtrack and the Leatherneck figure.

[atomic egret]

at least you're trying

time to start saving my pocketchange

[unreal token]

a minature match-pistole that looks like a shotgun

dangerous :u

[atomic egret]

[wraith cape]

would be funny (albeit misunderstood) if you sold the game in one of those potato sacks that the leathernecks wear, or whatever you call it lololol

[prisma halo]

Heh

[urban sparrow]

it comes on a disc that is scratched to shit because of the brown bags texture

[wraith cape]

😄

[urban sparrow]

😃

"Here, good luck installing"

[wraith cape]

Oooh and in the sack, it's literally filled with straw for extra padding.

[prisma halo]

The data corruption is part of the experience

[crimson folio]

Hehe

[wraith cape]

at least it would survive shipping.

[urban sparrow]

its a mini game

FEATURE

[prisma halo]

Missingno.exe

[urban sparrow]

lol

It wouldn't survive ups

[wraith cape]

yeah they fuck everything up don't they?

[urban sparrow]

I have shipped solid steel pieces to a table with them that became bent on the way. They were packed hard enough to stop a grenade.

To this day, I have no idea how it would have happened.

[prisma halo]

the answer is UPS

[urban sparrow]

correct