@thorn trout
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
exotic ibex
thorn trout
Difficulty isn't finalized yet, but I'm very much against boosting enemy health based on difficulty. Likely just change spawns and how much damage enemies do
untold hearth
and more of them?
untold hearth
@thorn trout I would really like a ton more of enemies on the higher difficulties. BTW I luv the alpha as it is 😃
slate edge
wibble wobble floors
thorn trout
thanks!
willow flax
off for the next 2 days, hypeeee
untold hearth
fan-fucking-tasticwork guy/s I hope for a new build soonish. and for a game where i need to circlestrafe around a buttload of enemies (on higher dificulties)... @thorn trout keep up the excellent work 👌 👍
willow flax
😩
untold hearth
@willow flax why so sad?🙁
willow flax
hearing everyone say how awesome it is while still trying to get my hands on it
untold hearth
your time will come, buddy 😃 have faith!
willow flax
absolutely
thorn trout
glad you like it so far!
untold hearth
i was lurking for over a moth before i got a key... and i got at valenties day... best valentine's day ever!
willow flax
yea i saw
prisma ivy
I remember that
willow flax
i figured it was going to happen but i was a double at work so nothing i could do
exotic ibex
post yer endless top score kids
austere egret
I would... IF I HAD A KEY!!!
untold hearth
i have not spoken to like any of you guys.... but i luv this commutnity! ^^... maybe i'll just keep on lurking... reading what you say... just waiting for the news. That you can pre-order the dusk big-box collectors edition!
willow flax
hah
exotic ibex
with special burlap sack mask
untold hearth
oh, would buy that and wear it at halloween
jade root
@untold hearth get outta voice chat
untold hearth
sorry dude.... miss-clicked
exotic ibex
dotn tell him what to do
jade root
no fuck you
untold hearth
ahhh ❤
jade root
see jim gets it
untold hearth
i've been lurking for far too long... to not get it 😛
untold hearth
sorry bossman... it will never happen again
prisma ivy
Living on the edge!
jade root
U WANNA AV A GO
willow flax
🖕
untold hearth
have the pistol been buffed in resent builds? cause it sucks baaaalls
thorn trout
pretty much yeah
exotic ibex
it has a use but its mostly taking out the absic soldiers without sacrificing ammo. if it gets to that point
thorn trout
single pistol is basically for chumps. Duals pistols can be useful for low-tier enemies or doing damage at range before you get the assault rifle / hunting rifle
exotic ibex
i feel the hunting rifle shouldnt be used to low end enemies due to the low max amo on it being 15.
thorn trout
yeah hunting rifle is for bigger guys
untold hearth
will there be a "backback" item in the game that allows you to carry more ammunition?
exotic ibex
i doubt it. ammo management is usually a staple of these games
thorn trout
probably not. Ammo limits are high enough that it shouldn't be too much of an issue
exotic ibex
it only really becomes an issue if you misuse weaponry
untold hearth
okay i trust in you oh mighty leader!
thorn trout
👍
yeah I want to make sure the player can't just load up on a bunch of powerful ammo by hoarding it
exotic ibex
one thing before i go pass the fuck out
how much do you think you will add to endless mode for the next build you'll upload to steam?
jade root
And I think I'm gonna lie down for a bit too
untold hearth
but i love to hoard stuff...
jade root
Etsy is a real pal
willow flax
😘
thorn trout
@exotic ibex I have no idea tbh. Likely the second endless arena will be what you guys will get.
exotic ibex
good enough for me. thanks for the answer fampai
neat shadow
Am I to late to ask a question?
I keep hearing about cooking yet I have no idea where and how
is it something already implemented? I keep easter egg hunting and can't find anything
thorn trout
👍
thorn trout
haha yeah, @neat shadow there are pieces of viscera lying around in some parts of the level, and you can cook them for an hp boost
sadly you can't do this with all gibs since gibs are a particle system, but you can do it with ones you find placed in the environment
mild ginkgo
Pistol is useful to shoot buttons too
neat shadow
So I guessed for the viscera part then, I just need to find how.
thorn trout
come to think of it, I should make the single pistol 100% accurate like the rifle
mild ginkgo
Maybe, I like how it is though, if you miss it's not a big deal because it cycles fast
thorn trout
well, I was thinking as a speedrunning tool it would be nice to have, for pushing buttons
oh wait, then again, you're able to predict inaccuracy patterns
outer lynx
I think that it would work out great as a speedrunning tool.
We can all start racing each other for the fastest time
slate edge
hmm
thorn trout
kind of. Just in the sense that at the start of a level the random generator has a constant seed, so in theory everything (enemy behavior, random box drops, spray patters, etc) will always play out the same given the same player input.
exotic ibex
neat
outer lynx
Makes sense
slate edge
hmmm
thorn trout
I don't know how I'm going to make it possible to get past every boss without killing them. Maybe Pacifist runs will just have to ignore boss kills.
mild ginkgo
Yeah it WOULD be nice for speedruns
Also being able to switch away from the mortar quicker would be 💯
After firing you have to wait really long
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DEVELOP GRENADE JUMP BUFFER TECH
but you already know about my little weaponswitch bug
thorn trout
new mortar works differently anyway. Press right mouse to detonate!
crystal vessel
Yeah it's really nice
neat shadow
hey I got it
mild ginkgo
Have you figured out double damage? :)
exotic ibex
you're going to end up dethroning serious sam as my favorite FPS @thorn trout please keep this madness going.
neat shadow
is that the power of "intoxination"?
mild ginkgo
Yep
thorn trout
@exotic ibex 👍
neat shadow
The hardest thing about finding about it is loosing enough armor to drink the bottles
thorn trout
oh yeah, you can get drunk too. BUT IT LASTS FOR THE REST OF THE LEVEL SO BE CAREFUL
outer lynx
But drunk should be the only way to play.
mild ginkgo
Is drunk gonna persist through levels?
neat shadow
I can't stand it honestly It's throwing me off too much I can't aim for shit
pliz no
mild ginkgo
I will do a drunk % if it does
thorn trout
it doesn't persist through levels :)
mild ginkgo
Rip
exotic ibex
you need to make drunk% a thing though
thorn trout
but I was trying to make it possible to get drunk in every level, since it doubles your melee damage
thorn trout
also sad news... you can't stay upside down anymore :( :( :( :(
for upside down runs
mild ginkgo
That's fine
exotic ibex
maybe a pre-new game modifier that turns drunk on for the entire run?
mild ginkgo
Unlock drunk mode for beating the game on hard
prisma ivy
That would be great
outer lynx
As long as we still have mid-air flips, I'm okay with it.
prisma ivy
Is drunk mode just wavy camera or does it do anything else?
thorn trout
I wanted to keep it, but the reason it worked was because the game was checking for a grounded state every frame and rotating a bit for that frame only, instead of checking for grounded then triggering a rotation. So if you landed on sloped ground the roll would be all messed up and janky.
slate edge
New mortar sounds like duke3d pipebomb with more range and model
thorn trout
@slate edge basically yeah, although they do explode after 5 seconds. There really isn't a point to them lying around for any longer than that
slate edge
Good call
mild ginkgo
True
exotic ibex
does duskguy even have a model?
neat shadow
I like Kamizam 's design but I wonder what it would look like in low-poly 3D
outer lynx
Question: Can we get a pogo stick in game?
mild ginkgo
OK time for wick, bbl
thorn trout
he's an invisible cpsule
exotic ibex
i assume he'll get a model for full release due to multiplayer?
neat shadow
^ Will there be a complete roaster of player models like in ROTT or Serious sam ?
thorn trout
He'll have a multiplayer model yeah, don't know about different player models. I can only do so much :P
neat shadow
not that it matters much, but I always thought it was cool to choose an avatar. Maybe some of the enemies models can be used as such
dunno how much actually hold a gun tho
thorn trout
yeah we'll see
exotic ibex
time for a coma. thanks for answering questions. 👍🏻
thorn trout
np!
neat shadow
I should do the same. thanks for the tip too
slate edge
kickable head gibs pretty please
stoic lava
what kind of gibs are they though?
willow flax
how many weapons are in the alpha at the moment ?
;and how does ammo work in endless ? weapon respawn timmer ? random ammo drops ?
guess everyone abandon meeeee
deft salmon
1000
thorn trout
there are 9 weapons. In endless mode ammo respawns on a timer
willow flax
thx thx
thorn trout
👍
willow flax
lol
thorn trout
THAT'S a lot of NUTS
mild ginkgo
OK so
radiant venture
YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT?????
thorn trout
Kung Pow is exactly 1/2 of a great movie
mild ginkgo
That benelli reload into the guys chest
austere egret
HE JUST LEFT... WITH NUTS
mild ginkgo
That was great
thorn trout
John Wick 2?
mild ginkgo
Yeah
willow flax
yea that movie was fun
mild ginkgo
GO
willow flax
why have you not
austere egret
Taco bell... taco bell... product placement taco bell
thorn trout
I've just been busy, and I injured my back so it hurt to sit for the past week or so
mild ginkgo
Definitely worth a watch if you like cool coreography
radiant venture
try my nuts to your fist style!!
quiet rose
@mild ginkgo ayyyy good choice
mild ginkgo
yeah man
quiet rose
i thought about going to see it during terrorcon again
because terrorcon was just awful
mild ginkgo
some of those executions were great
willow flax
?
mild ginkgo
so @willow flax
im kind of putting in a practice run right now
before i wanted to stream
not dead yet
just paused
mild ginkgo
ahaha i can turn the stream on
you're gonna be so mad
this is a new ship
and its so broken
this is infinitely sustainable
willow flax
whaaaa
mild ginkgo
the only thing stopping me is time and my fingers getting tired
sec ill pop the stream on
radiant venture
stream?
willow flax
roger that
willow flax
heading out for the night boyz make sure nothing happens while im gone
thorn trout
LOL OOPS
prisma halo
HEH
thorn trout
oh well, not much of a point in censoring anyway.
not like they're saying anything awful
I just usually censor chat stuff out of habit
thorn trout
yup
atomic egret
what did he say?
thorn trout
he was just like "oh! I'm enjoying your game very much." :)
past linden
How'd he know what build you were on?
thorn trout
-shrug-
old gulch
Markum Dansoms
old gulch
I'm a pelvic thrusting mechancical man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6QaDBZJwM
It's actually really ok to thrust the pelvic region while watching this. https://www.facebook.com/The80sDreams/videos/1362735507118428
unique monolith
So dev of Dusk know dev of Dusk? xD
exotic ibex
whens the new build mister dusk sir
deft salmon
right now
exotic ibex
noice
exotic ibex
lmao
exotic ibex
not totally_not_a_virus
earnest jacinth
the above screenshot posted by me wasnt intended to happen by the devs, but its still fits
but yeah the actual gif is rad
gleaming berry
HOT ACTION
distant birch
how hot?
slate edge
WAT
gleaming berry
Im sorry I have enough moms
willow flax
are you going to pax east so i can dick ride you for ak ey
😄
but now you need a stream slave like myself since it seems these boyz slackin
thorn trout
lol @prisma halo I just figured out why the game kept returning button-related errors. There WAS A button prefab that didn't have textures assigned: the invisible button attached to doors. Derp :P
prisma halo
hahahaha
mild ginkgo
LOL
after all that
rip
also im glad THATS how you are controlling doors
thats hilarious
thorn trout
yeah, I was CONVINCED it couldn't be that, since every button prefab had textures associated with it. I completely forgot that the door had a button on it, despite having to resize/position that button for EVERY SINGLE DOOR I PLACE. I am an idiot :P
mild ginkgo
Oh lord
never change that
i love cute solutions like that
although itll be hell for mappers
thorn trout
it also lets me do fun stuff like putting the button to open a door somwhere else, for unexpected monster closets and stuff.
the majority of stuff involved with Dusk level creation will be hell for mappers tbh. The eventual level editor will require a lot of streamlining. I definitely expect that to be a post-release feature
thorn trout
yeah
prisma halo
I do want to play around with loading q3bsp into the game
mild ginkgo
oh god please
prisma halo
but no guarantees
thorn trout
yeah I think that would be awesome
atomic egret
when the level editor does come out, how long do you rekon it'll take before someone remakes doom e1m1
prisma halo
yeah now try doing it when you don't have direct access to many things
prisma halo
when you have to manually clear scenes to start constructing the q3bsp geometry
without clearing stuff that shouldn't be cleared
mild ginkgo
jesus christ i dont want to think about that
thorn trout
@atomic egret well I still haven't decided whether or not I want to do it myself for a secret. Shhh, don't tell anyone :)
mild ginkgo
i never got it working perfectly when i HAD access to everything
atomic egret
@thorn trout my lips are sealed ;)
mild ginkgo
nevermind having to give the game a reacharound to do anything
prisma halo
I still need to figure out how to programmatically create bone transforms
since I'm pretty sure those are created in the editor normally
otherwise I can't get animations to play without piggybacking off of the prefabs
thorn trout
@prisma halo dumb question, but would it be at all helpful to build the game with a "dummy scene" that has all the needed prefabs placed and nothing else, so you can just load it into there?
prisma halo
that would be helpful, yeah
mild ginkgo
yeah
if you want a great example of that
Zineth
has a nice custom map scene
where you import unity assetbundles
i got dust2 and aerowalk into that game
prisma halo
assetbundles trigger me
mild ginkgo
they DO
prisma halo
and GUESS WHAT
mild ginkgo
i had to revert to unity 3.4 to use them properly
prisma halo
I need to write an assetbundle builder from scratch, so I can load custom shaders
:^)
mild ginkgo
because unity has been changing them like fuckers
prisma halo
because Unity removed the string constructor for Material
prisma halo
so to load shaders externally
I need to compile them
format them into what Unity expects
mild ginkgo
ahahah
prisma halo
bundle them into an asset bundle (which I'll call a "shader cache")
and load that
painless for the end-user
but fucking HELL for me
mild ginkgo
yeah thats so bad
prisma halo
needless to say shaders are sitting in the back of the crowd right now
it's doable but man I am gonna procrastinate on that so hard
mild ginkgo
im also fine with people not having custom shaders
prisma halo
as am I, but it's a useful feature to have at some point
mild ginkgo
because BOY is it not gonna match the visual style if you have fucking pbr shaders in that game
oh definitely
prisma halo
could recreate stuff like Doom's screen melt with it
thorn trout
worth mentioning that there aren't any light probes, since the lighting system doesn't actually use anything lighting-related other than light location, range, and color.
prisma halo
man my stomach is KILLING me, I need to eat but I won't be home for another half hour
mild ginkgo
yeah light probes are dumb anyways
prisma halo
yeah
thorn trout
last I knew they were broken, so shrug
mild ginkgo
theyve never worked well
thorn trout
I couldn't get them to bake without stupid black spots and weirdness, so I just gave up and made my own jankass lighting system
prisma halo
also I should probably add another extension to the squirrel parser to only treat [[ ]] as an attribute in the context where it can be an attribute
because the syntax addition has broken this: local array = [[ "array within array" ]]
mild ginkgo
lighting probes are mostly there because enlighten cant handle realtime GI for real
prisma halo
if I get q3bsp loading I'm totally compiling Quake's start.map to q3bsp and loading it in Dusk
thorn trout
that would be amazing
prisma halo
another thing I want to try
is to brute-force convert the probuilder maps to q3bsp
iterate over all objects in the map, find ones that are tagged as probuilder objects, grab their meshes, and export them
atomic egret
does it ever get confusing with 2 davids working on dusk?
prisma halo
it seems to confuse newcomers at least lol
mild ginkgo
http://sabrecsg.com/ just went open source/free, so im thinking about playing around with this as well
thorn trout
Lighting in Dusk uses the emission property of the standard shader to fake light intensity and color, and there's just an array of "nodes" that determine what that intensity/color is, created based on the baked point lights. It turns out that with minimal tweaking, you don't even have to check for walls. It usually gives accurate results even without.
and there's some functionality that may or may not be an actual feature that lets you disable baked lighting and use realtime instead
prisma halo
the names of the scripts that handle that trigger me though
with the RANDOM ALLCAPS in their names
thorn trout
yeah I was considering switching over to it at one point, but I'd already gotten fairly comfortable with ProBuilder (and had spent the money) so I just stuck with that.
prisma halo
well I mean, no reason to switch if it works for you
mild ginkgo
yeah definitely
i havent had a chance to try sabre
theres probably a good reason it doesnt have the mindshare probuilder has
prisma halo
I'm so used to using Unity like a framework that it feels weird to see the structure of a Unity project now
Since I spend zero time in the Unity editor while working on Dawn
thorn trout
My thought was that I wanted to be as close to oldschool tools as possible, but I'm told that my levels look like they come from a bsp background anyway.
mild ginkgo
they are very bspesque
thorn trout
Joe Wintergreen doesn't like ProBuilder for level design, that's all I know.
I've been happy with it personally, but I also don't know anything else
prisma halo
I'm not a fan of anything built into the Unity editor for level design, myself
thorn trout
I didn't ever use Hammer or anything like that
prisma halo
I like to have important stuff like that external at all times
mild ginkgo
theres NOTHING in unity for level design lmao
prisma halo
there would need to be anything built-in in the first place for that
mild ginkgo
i was like, yeah making levels out of spheres cubes quads and planes isnt great
thorn trout
heh I made 4 games previous to this doing all my level geometry in Blender :D
it was no way to live
prisma halo
hahahahaha
I feel like people that make levels in 3d modelling software are higher beings
I couldn't live without the control of placing entities and shit at the same time the level is being constructed
mild ginkgo
i just cant deal with blender
prisma halo
gotta have that easy scale comparison
prisma halo
I've tried to use Blender numerous times
mild ginkgo
and then have floating point precision errors
prisma halo
I could probably make something ultra basic
but I don't think I could do anything fancy yet
mild ginkgo
blender killed my soul from the start
prisma halo
like, I could do a cartoony hand I guess
thorn trout
Blender's UI is made of terror
prisma halo
Blender's UI kills me
prisma halo
they put the UI through a blender
mild ginkgo
on top of performing like a pile of cooked viscera
you cant do ANYTHING high poly in blender
it just dies
prisma halo
apparently the latest update brings big performance improvements
mild ginkgo
i guess that could be true
prisma halo
along with (probably) another complete UI redesign that makes you need to relearn absolutely everything
prisma halo
since Blender's infamous for those
maya would be great if it didn't cost 9 million dollars
mild ginkgo
#1 underrated mvp 3d software is 3Dcoat
prisma halo
to be completely honest I feel the entire 3D workflow in all 3D modelling apps I've seen is really unoptimized
mild ginkgo
i learned that the hard way dealing with photogrametry
holy shit do you learn the hard way things arent optimized
thorn trout
I Don't even know high poly modeling workflow. I assume it involves more scultping tools and less messing with faces directly?
prisma halo
it doesn't look fun, from what I've seen
mild ginkgo
sculpting
yes
when you're dealing with 15-30million polys
its a nightmare
zbrush is the only thing that works at that level
thorn trout
well, I fixed a save/load bug and made quickloading way faster. Now to play some Hearthstone and then SLEEP GLORIOUS SLEEP
mild ginkgo
:)
prisma halo
I return
prisma halo
yes
atomic egret
I barely even notice it
mild ginkgo
i can live off of aussie sland and bondi beach episodes
the best was in one episode some dude was having a stroke/heart attack and they said "hes having a fit"
i laughed for a solid 30 minutes
mild ginkgo
having a fit is like, what little kids do when they drop their ice cream
atomic egret
that's a tantie
mild ginkgo
it was like a marginilization of how serious the medical condition was
crystal vessel
I've heard both a few times
mild ginkgo
and i love it
prisma halo
what gilby said
crystal vessel
Tantie isntead of tantrum
mild ginkgo
i love how laid back they were about a dude DYING ON THE GROUND
crystal vessel
Lovely
mild ginkgo
that show is amazing
you guys have some funny tv for sure
that horrible show about lebbos
what the fuck was that called
comedy show rather
not actually about lebanese australians
atomic egret
housos
mild ginkgo
THATS THE ONE
atomic egret
theres some housing comission people around the corner from me
mild ginkgo
i spend way too much time researching australian shit
prisma halo
you know what shows I think are genuinely awful?
atomic egret
the only thing they do all day is walk around and tinker with cars
prisma halo
neighbours & home and away
mild ginkgo
yeah they DO
and thats why https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjgYbmqgwXA59b6U5l64uZw is amazing
atomic egret
nobody actually likes home and away
mild ginkgo
yeah ive been following that projecct a while
prisma halo
even though I'm Australian, hearing "Zed-Doom" still triggers me
mild ginkgo
gee zed
atomic egret
the only time I say zee instead of z is if it's an american made thing
mild ginkgo
i call it zed now
even though im american
because i hang out with canadians alllll day
rubbed off
prisma halo
lmao
prisma halo
I jump between colour and color without realizing
I use some bastardized merge of Australian & American English
dusty blaze
Zed 
🔫
exotic ibex
@prisma halo think you could make a version of dawn with volume sliders? or maybe a music on/off switch? as much as i love andrews music after 13+ hours of 20 minute runs on endless id like to throw my own music up while tryign to be high scores.
exotic ibex
prisma halo
I'll probably have to get it done sometime tomorrow since it's pretty late now
it'll likely be an on/off switch since adding a slider to the menus is rather complex since I haven't rewritten those systems yet
exotic ibex
i would just like to mix the music up a bit so thats good enough. get to it when you feel like it.
exotic ibex
@thorn trout if you dont mind me asking really quickly. was there any reason you staggered spawns a second apart in endless?
thorn trout
I think at the time I thought it would feel weird for them to all spawn at once, but in the new endless level they all spawn at once and it feels fine, so shrug
exotic ibex
was just curious if there was any conscious choice on your part. i think it makes the upper area easier to manage if you start up there. being able to kill off the two soldiers and wizard right before the two scarecrows spawn makes starting up there a viable choice when you're wounded.
exotic ibex
am i the best yet?
autumn compass
better then us
exotic ibex
i recorded that run too
thorn trout
wow
exotic ibex
its safe to say i enjoy endless mode.
it tugs at my love for serious sam but has everything dusk
its 10/10
now all i need to do is upload the run
david i need the new build in my life
i broke 500. once i break 1000 kills i wont know what to do with myself.
slate edge
kill 1337
exotic ibex
im satisfied if i can manage to be top score on a map and have 2k+
then im not sure if ill try to beat that score unless someone beats it
is it safe to assume i have the top score in endless currently?
autumn compass
yes
exotic ibex
nope
crimson folio
heck
crimson folio
I can almost imagine the habbening though
exotic ibex
👍🏻
how do i give you more 👍🏻
considering my 548 run was just a few seconds shy of 30 minutes a 2k run would be easily 90 minutes
90 minutes of murder
crimson folio
aye
mild ginkgo
lol kamizam you produce content so quickly jesus
exotic ibex
and it looks good
mild ginkgo
^
exotic ibex
tweet that at him
crimson folio
dun
crimson folio
ya see ya just have to do it
its like sex,
it will take time, and be awkward the first few times, and some people never try it,
but it can be pretty fun, and theres multiple ways to do it
drawing that is
and it can be expensive
just like sex
exotic ibex
it is of my opinion that you are worthy of a key for that analogy
and the tons of shit you've drawn.
shits good
crimson folio
Thing is, the Dev duudes are all-american I think, so the timezones will fuck it kinda up
exotic ibex
fukken rip
crimson folio
aye
exotic ibex
my upload speed is so bad
its taking me hours to upload the 548 run
i think my browser is about to crash while uploading
i swear to fuck
slate edge
Im proud of myself
quiet rose
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
austere egret
Huehuehue
slate edge
I already have a key steev, no abuse the command
quiet rose
I know that.
quiet rose
slate edge
I just wanted to use Dave`s face as a meme
exotic ibex
?
quiet rose
.
autumn compass
exotic ibex
quiet rose
!
autumn compass
exotic ibex
autumn compass
quiet rose
?
autumn compass
exotic ibex
exotic ibex
crimson folio
crimson folio
Well darn
ruby pewter
exotic ibex
my 548 kill run is almost uploaded for those who give a shit.
crimson folio
I do xP
exotic ibex
its 30 minutes long
crimson folio
kk
hexed roost
exotic ibex
STOP TEASING ME DAVE
slate edge
It`s beautiful.
exotic ibex
the new track sounds damn fucking good tho
slate edge
Andrew knows his stuff
exotic ibex
the one from skeeter shootin was what i was talking about
i cant fucking wait to hear the rest of the tracks
exotic ibex
i wonder if i can trade the skulls of 2,000 enemies in endless for the new build.
exotic ibex
@urban sparrow
wraith relic
O
exotic ibex
full name is andrew hulshult i believe
wraith relic
ya it is
didn't i hear somewhere that more than 1 musician is pitching into the game tho
thorn trout
no but there should be
exotic ibex
no you arent
?
exotic ibex
i r babo
welp
time to go beat 548 kills
i didnt notice how littered with corpses the map is by the ten minute mark
lol
exotic ibex
one day ill be able to beat you in speedrunning 500
one day
until that day ill do the one thing no one else wants to do.
exotic ibex
yo i got the endless
you got the campaign speedruns
and you demolish me in MP
thats how it'll go
<insert sad faces here>
mild ginkgo
I wonder if there will be a legit comp scene
mild ginkgo
@thorn trout CTF gamemode pls
mild ginkgo
Or whatever, some cult thing
I just love ctf
Nobody puts ctf in games anymore
And don't you fucking mention that abortion of a gamemode overwatch had
exotic ibex
your speedrun?
mild ginkgo
Yea
exotic ibex
whats the new time?
mild ginkgo
59
exotic ibex
looks like you got work to do nerd
exotic ibex
but yer a nerd
jade root
Rekt
mild ginkgo
Ye, but doing 200 runs to shave a second off of an alpha demo and recording it. /effort
jade root
just chill out and play some DS2 instead
exotic ibex
im not good at bunnyhopping or i would go for it
mild ginkgo
Bopping in Dusk is ez
Just do it
Also I should be playing ds2
What build should I do jab
exotic ibex
i dont get the speed boost consistently when i bop.
mild ginkgo
Spotted or notched or elements?
jade root
Elements
mild ginkgo
Hmm. Maybe we do
I did a ds2 bandits knife run
Worst decision ever
It's objectively awful
jade root
I'd like to do a Simon Belmont build one day
jade root
Mhm
Right now I'm just kinda dicking through the game switching between R1 broadsword and shield and greatsword
atomic egret
did I miss anything
exotic ibex
a key
atomic egret
god dammit
verbal sand
noo
exotic ibex
im lying
atomic egret
I'm in school rn
austere egret
Hes kidding
exotic ibex
you missed a couple videos dave posted showing off a couple things from the new build
exotic ibex
if you scroll up past my endless run dave has a few videos posted that dont involve that
atomic egret
can't access videos at school I'll have to check it out when I get home
crimson folio
When do keys normally drop?
atomic egret
there is no normal
exotic ibex
randomly
atomic egret
it's just at random to stop people from only getting on at a specific time to get keys
you just kind of have to get lucky
austere egret
The good lord Dave giveith and taketh away
atomic egret
unless you're like hank and shill out your mother for a key
crimson folio
xD
exotic ibex
i saw my opertunity and i took it
@thorn trout in endless does time have a factor on your point score?
crimson folio
What the
atomic egret
oh shoot it's out?
atomic egret
it's fine
feral solar
hup hup hup hup
hollow kiln
so @exotic ibex is over in the KI discord talking trash about how he's so good at endless mode can I also sell my mom to get a key so I can beat his highscore? Kappa
exotic ibex
hollow kiln
😦
crimson folio
Wait what was posted in the wrong channel?
exotic ibex
dont worrry about it
crimson folio
Ah kk
Almighty Dave, I have keys upon keys waiting at your front door for the price of only one key 😏
thorn trout
@exotic ibex naw, it's all based on the multiplier. Every enemy is worth the same amount of points times the multiplier in the.. .erm, top right? I forget where I put it in the alpha demo.
past linden
Yup
verbal sand
pretty genrous
past linden
Yup
exotic ibex
👍🏻
crimson folio
How much will it cost anyway?
verbal sand
well its a clever way of playtesting
past linden
more then DD less then NMS
prisma ivy
Something like $20
past linden
6 - 59
verbal sand
dd?
past linden
Devil Daggers
crimson folio
Devil Daggers is my shit
crimson folio
Pick it up if you don't have it
crimson folio
😏
past linden
If you're here and you DON'T have it, what's wrong with you?
verbal sand
who doesnt hve it
crimson folio
^
verbal sand
ill give a key out to a man without dd
past linden
I'd take it if i didn't already own it
prisma ivy
Same
prisma ivy
Probably so
crimson folio
Well yeah everyone came for a dusk key 😂
past linden
Hence my comment
subtle bane
what's dd?
crimson folio
^honestly best $5 game on steam
past scarab
I wish there was a baby mode for Devil Daggers or something. I'd just like to relax with it sometimes
crimson folio
that would be great considering it's one of the hardest games ever xD
jade root
Eh
mild ginkgo
and although i love devil daggers, its not that replayable
past scarab
best game I've gotten recently is Deadbolt
mild ginkgo
you memorize everything
jade root
I've gotten to 4 minutes in devil daggers
crimson folio
dayum
jade root
It's just memorization and trail and error
mild ginkgo
at 5$ it needs to present more breadth
yep
my best cheapest game on steam is EASILY Downwell
crimson folio
a campaign 😉
mild ginkgo
downwell kicks ass for like 2$
past scarab
I'd like to see the aesthetic used in something more
lyric spruce
Terraria bruh
past scarab
because it's got actual fun gameplay and a wicked cool art style
mild ginkgo
terarria is 10
lyric spruce
I bought that shit in alpha for $5, best decision I made in terms of hours vs cost
crimson folio
Downwell actually looks really nice
thorn trout
Devil Daggers is great for what it is. Wish there was more to it though.
mild ginkgo
its increeeeedible
jade root
Downwell is something else
mild ginkgo
downwell has super tight controls, great sound and art, and the PALLETTES
lyric spruce
@thorn trout That's pretty much my opinion as well
crimson folio
true, true
thorn trout
what's Downwell?
mild ginkgo
jade root
Could play it for days
silent cliff
Always remember, the gem shot perk is pretty much useless
lyric spruce
It's a vertical scrolling shooter thing
mild ginkgo
best under 5$ game on steam
crimson folio
damn you beat me to it xD
mild ginkgo
its soooooo good
jade root
Yep
lyric spruce
You go down a well and have boots that are guns
mild ginkgo
its has amaaazing color pallettes
jade root
Downwell is a game done right
mild ginkgo
yeah its another one of those technical 10's like shovel knight
downwell makes no errors really
crimson folio
gimme gimme 😉
lyric spruce
Yeah, any complaint is basically taste
thorn trout
oh that looks neat
lyric spruce
it is what it is and it does it as well as you can do it
mild ginkgo
on sale its like 75 cents
thorn trout
well heck I might as well wishlist it and pick it up when it's on sale then
usually 2d Roguelite stuff isn't really my thing
atomic egret
downwell kicks my ass
mild ginkgo
atomic egret
I have 11 hours logged (more from playing offline at school) and I can't even get past the second zone
mild ginkgo
that game boy palette
past linden
IMO the best thing on steam for 5$ is Doom and if we're allowing sales Blood Dragon
crimson folio
Blood though
atomic egret
shadow warrior though
crimson folio
noh
past linden
Blood's good, but you can mod Doom for ages
past linden
And SW's amazing, but again, Doom has mods for forever
atomic egret
hell you can even get shadow warrior classic for free
past linden
^
lyric spruce
My personal fav of the build shooters is SW
past linden
Same
crimson folio
lyric spruce
Just all the explosives and how fast the combat is
It's like a double challenge of not blowing yourself up and also not getting killed
jade root
We all know about blood
lyric spruce
(but Doom is still da bes)
crimson folio
I just use the double barrel 😉
jade root
I'll use your double barrel
lyric spruce
lewd senapi
crimson folio
noH
past linden
Without all the mods and E1 Doom wouldn't be nearly as good.
crimson folio
My quad barrel 😉
past linden
@strong tartan's 16 barrel
lyric spruce
I dunno man, even without mods Doom 1 is still pretty much the best classic shooter
thorn trout
@mild ginkgo WELP THAT SCREENSHOT IS PRETTY CONVINCING
past linden
It's had some issues aging
mild ginkgo
right?
past linden
Doom, not downwell, i assume that's aging just fine
mild ginkgo
gameboy palette is actually really hard to play because enemy color matters in downwell
crimson folio
looks like it was taken on my mirowave
lyric spruce
No more than the build games IMO, there are just different issues for each
crimson folio
microwave*
lyric spruce
Blood sans bMouse is pretty much unplayable these days
past linden
IMO Doom 64's a WAY better game then Doom 1 if you take away it's E1 and mod support
lyric spruce
Oh man D64 is so gr8
past linden
I think if i weren't so blinded by my love/nostalgia for Doom 1 i'd say 64 were the better game
past scarab
is there a PC port of Doom 64 that doesn't do stuff like add lame enemies?
lyric spruce
Doom 64 EX
past linden
^
crimson folio
^^
past linden
EX is fantastic
thorn trout
yup, EX is the best
atomic egret
didn't dave make doom64 ex?
lyric spruce
Yep, it's D64 as a near-perfect port
past linden
He did?
past linden
Umm, what?
past scarab
Yeah, I just remember years back there was a 64 port, but he makers added their own monsters and made obnoxious difficulty tweaks
prisma halo
Doom 64 EX is a reverse-engineering effort of the actual D64 engine
jade root
Dave didn't make 64EX
prisma halo
you're thinking of Brutal Doom 64 or Doom 64 Absolution
both of those add extra content
past scarab
Absolution's the wone I'm thinking of
lyric spruce
yeah the only nitpick I have with EX is from me loving up-down mouselook
prisma halo
Absolution was indeed made by the same guy that made EX, though
lyric spruce
The skybox tilts with your view :^|
prisma halo
Kaiser
lyric spruce
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT A SCRUB LIKE ME IT'S PERFECT
crimson folio
past linden
64's the most freaked out i've ever been in a game
thorn trout
Absolution was nice before EX was a thing
past linden
So much damn atmosphere
lyric spruce
dat PSX Doom tho
crimson folio
PSX doom was perfection lol. underrated
past linden
LMAO, doom PSX's death animations were 👌
crimson folio
My Doom Donger
lyric spruce
My only issue with that is that the colored sectors don't color the bright flash frames of the weapons
Bothers the shit outta me
prisma halo
past linden
That cover art's amazing
prisma halo
it is
lyric spruce
I wonder if I can get that sans logos in 1920x1080
prisma halo
if only
past linden
Even with logos i'd take it
It's not as good as the Doom 1 cover but IMO that's WAY better then Doom 2's
atomic egret
looks like arcade art
crimson folio
what's the deal with Doom 2's?
lyric spruce
Actually if you cut a bit out of D2's cover you can make a great background
past linden
Yea, but
atomic egret
or pinball art
jade root
Dat hair
atomic egret
I always wondered what the fuck was that hair
lyric spruce
Man what, why's it rotated?
lyric spruce
jade root
The cyber demon looks mildly suprised
jade root
atomic egret
wtf is that cyberdemon
prisma halo
lol what
past linden
The cover doesn't match the game very well IMO
prisma halo
everything was redone in D64
past linden
But THIS was the cyberdemon, not that angry cow person
prisma halo
the D64 pinky is great what are you smokin'