there's a bit of jump padness
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
thorn trout
jade root
nerf hunting rilfe plz
acoustic oriole
that's awesome
crimson folio
Yeah @acoustic oriole
acoustic oriole
wait, is that the endless arena?
crimson folio
Already saw it, love the roll at the end @thorn trout
thorn trout
nope, that's a level
crimson folio
Didn't know it was that simple to do
thorn trout
👍
crimson folio
Damn, I just realised that I don't know jack shit about the game lol
thorn trout
I've got some other footage I want to make some gifs of, but I can't use giphy wile uploading stuff, so... :P
acoustic oriole
night time agrees with this game ^^
crimson folio
Rip
acoustic oriole
not sure if this was asked before but
is the demo level gonna be included as an actual level in the full game? (except for the weapon placements, obviously)
thorn trout
It's not going to be in the actual campaign but it might be an extra just for fun
acoustic oriole
that would be awesome
acoustic oriole
that will be nostalgia material someday
thorn trout
hopefully!
junior phoenix
this happend near the lake when i slided and pressed crouch button again
fixed by crouching again
acoustic oriole
oh yeah I get that quite a lot
thorn trout
yeah there are camera clipping issues
acoustic oriole
also in the underground tunnels in the beginning
thorn trout
they've been fixed since
narrow mica
So is the pax east build gonna be more akin to classic shareware
junior phoenix
need dem build maan
narrow mica
Or is it just going to be the first few levels and not the whole chapter
acoustic oriole
whatever will be will be
thorn trout
plan is that I'll be going as well
quiet rose
Tfw NB will be an hour away from me but cant meet them :(
mild ginkgo
I like how you've gone from demo build to 'need new build' in the space of an hour
slate edge
tfw you live in Ireland, where the only cool thing is John Romero, but no conventions
I mean, thats pretty cool but....
quiet rose
New build? Lol.
acoustic oriole
LOL
quiet rose
Be patient
narrow mica
Also is there going to be lore
Or is it just gonna be a quake situation where lore only exists to say there's lore
thorn trout
who knoooooooooows! ;)
acoustic oriole
we wouldn't want to :P
junior phoenix
lore in style of doom/quake i suppose
anyway, dunno if you guys know this guy but man i love his videos
he has a nice coverage of quake and doom, quite deep and long
acoustic oriole
oh yeah
junior phoenix
along with other
acoustic oriole
I watched his Quake and Doom video
acoustic oriole
he also has a fantastic voice to make the videos even more fascinating
acoustic oriole
editing, etc
junior phoenix
he has everything just right
hidden gem on YT i would say, even when he has nearly 1m subs now...
should have more
acoustic oriole
really excited about how @thorn trout described Dusk episode 3 in the Gggmanlives video X_X exactly the kinda theme I love in games like these
@junior phoenix I agree
junior phoenix
im watching him from like 150k, like 2y
kinda sad he is growing so slowly, but im happy he is at least
funny that only thing that changed is mic quality :D
acoustic oriole
I'm glad he's more about quality of videos, rather than quantity of videos
junior phoenix
i launched wolfensterin coverage justfor lolz and its like only differnece
^ that
even his vids from early 2015 are top-notch
thorn trout
yeah ep3 is going to be nuts
junior phoenix
i heard sth about one episode being black mesish
kinda curious how that will work
acoustic oriole
yea, episode 2
bottom line... the future is looking very exciting and interesting
junior phoenix
it sure is
btw i mentioned the Ahoy guy cause he showed up in my sub box with new vid today and i thought ill share his content here :P
has really nice coverage as i said, about id games and other stuff
neat shadow
I'm back! what did I miss?
neat shadow
he keeps popping into my suggestion box. I might have to check him out
acoustic oriole
if you didnt check out his Quake and Doom video - do it
neat shadow
got it
acoustic oriole
I was like "woah what the hell is that length?" and then got mesmerized all the way to the end lol
neat shadow
I mean I can't right now but I'll do it
thorn trout
retroAhoy? He's fantastic
junior phoenix
could be :P we use it on regular basis here
jade root
serious is a pirate
jade root
!lang
hollow ivyBOT
Please keep all discussions english only! Repeatedly speaking in foreign languages can get you muted.
junior phoenix
well it is english only my friend
jade root
kappa
jade root
im being sarcastic
junior phoenix
i know, me too :P
obtuse apex
the only fancy language is Chinese
junior phoenix
ping pong arigato kawai
neat shadow
*kawaii and that's japanese
neat shadow
yup
junior phoenix
wanted to write that :D
acoustic oriole
been planning on playing through Machinegames' Quake episode
anyone played through it?
junior phoenix
not yet
planning it for a looong time
it could be downloaded from their twitter somewhere?
i dont know where i put the file :D
acoustic oriole
junior phoenix
thx ill look at it when i finish the cig
acoustic oriole
you just place it in the main Quake folder and run the game with
-game dopa
launch command
junior phoenix
been planning it for too long
maan really?
i know that :D
like i never played a mod :P
acoustic oriole
ah
junior phoenix
like external one
acoustic oriole
LOL
junior phoenix
happens :P
im not any better with this kind of stuff sometimes :D
english is "hard"
neat shadow
how much damage can the sawblade deal? I tried it on the duke brothers and it just insta-killed them
mild ginkgo
Soap is the most op
junior phoenix
?
neat shadow
I did the full level with the sawblade. It's ludicrously effective but it bounces everywhere
junior phoenix
what? where?
neat shadow
I didn't knew the soap did damage
acoustic oriole
in the house's bathroom
neat shadow
In the shower with the 2 grunts
acoustic oriole
careful not to flush it
neat shadow
it makes bubbles
acoustic oriole
don't drop the soap
mild ginkgo
And is instant kill to everything
neat shadow
you can flush giant boxes in here. I thought for a moment you could flush yourself
junior phoenix
forgot bout that
mild ginkgo
And cook yourself a meal while you are at the house
acoustic oriole
finding it on the floor once you threw it is the hardest thing in the demo
neat shadow
it spawns bubbles tho
junior phoenix
kinda funny how metal crate is flying like cardboard box
neat shadow
speaking about boxes is propjumping the only way to get on the top of the house?
junior phoenix
you apparently can with mortar
still have it open so i can learn it :P
but you always can IDKFA and rocketjump there
easier to do
neat shadow
don't need to cheat
mild ginkgo
Propjumping is for cowards
neat shadow
you can get it in the pond
mild ginkgo
There is no rocket launcher
willow flax
work till late again, dont drop any keys without me plz
junior phoenix
you get rocket launcher at the end
willow flax
👌
junior phoenix
fighting dukes
mild ginkgo
There is no rocket launcher.
junior phoenix
ok so how would you call it
mild ginkgo
The riveter
mild ginkgo
Yes
junior phoenix
didnt checked
crystal vessel
...
mild ginkgo
No it isnt
junior phoenix
= rocket launcher
mild ginkgo
It doesnt
neat shadow
no it shoot explosive rivets
acoustic oriole
mortar jumps are kinda hard to pull off, but once you get the hang of it, it's as natural as using the riveter
wraith relic
it's fundamentally the same as a rocket launcher
just like the mortar is fundamentally the same as a grenade launcher
mild ginkgo
Not even close
junior phoenix
omg rivet is a word too?
wraith relic
so we can call them either
junior phoenix
why u so hard english
mild ginkgo
The riveter has a downward arc
wraith relic
o i didn't kno that
acoustic oriole
it serves the role of the rocket launcher, but it's definitely not behaving like one
mild ginkgo
Rocket launchers fly true
neat shadow
I think it shoot faster too
graceful wing
i wouldn't call the riveter a rocket launcher
mild ginkgo
Cycle Time is way shorter than a rocket launcher as well yeah
No I went crazy
Because riveter is my one true love in life
graceful wing
i guess you could sort of get away with calling it a grenade launcher but with rivets
I DON'T KNOW OKAY
mild ginkgo
It's a mechanical fixture
acoustic oriole
hey, english is "hard" :P
graceful wing
wraith relic
in that case
i feel like a riveter should act like a nailgun, but slower and beefier in comparison
neat shadow
that's what I thought too
wraith relic
sounds cooler, idk man
junior phoenix
ok got it
acoustic oriole
I kinda love the weapon arsenal as is personally
neat shadow
it does, but with the added aoe effect
neat shadow
I'm so happy this game got a hunting rifle too. last time I saw one was in cube2 (well it was a break action carbine but it operate the same gameplaywise)
junior phoenix
you didnt play much fallout did you?
new vegas namely
i think its the first gun you get
wraith relic
all fallout games had one afaik
junior phoenix
and if not its fairly common
neat shadow
hugh the vermine gun is baaad
neat shadow
at least you don't need 5strength to use it like the makeshift rifle in fallout 2
junior phoenix
:D
neat shadow
still, point taken. I was thinking about a more damaging weapon tho
cube's carbine dealt a 100 damage, so a one-hit kill without armor
now that I think about it that's funny because that's where my username comes from. as IN bop + frag. thought about it while playing a bot match
junior phoenix
yeah :D
neat shadow
what if some of the chapter one levels had critters in them?
like a shadow warrior homage
wraith relic
what if some cultist wizard could corrupt those critters and make them go rabid
neat shadow
terraria stuff. gud shit
wraith relic
ok that'd prompt the player to just butcher all animals to prevent that
junior phoenix
chubby bunnies da best
best flavour
jk
never eaten a bunny
or better say rabbit
i dont think bunnies are eaten, or are they?
neat shadow
yes they are
junior phoenix
hmm interesting
junior phoenix
i thought bunnies are like the home ones and rabbits the wild ones
graceful wing
the texture feels off
junior phoenix
or sth in that sense
we are like eating rabbits here too (well technically we are on east from US :P ) but i never had one and dont wanna
i mean they are cute!
who would eat that?
maybe chinesse weirdos who eat dogs too
no offense
graceful wing
in the end it's all just food
neat shadow
not in new zeland tho
thorn trout
people eat rabbits around here, yeah. And groundhog and squirrel.
neat shadow
new zeland is terrified of them
graceful wing
oh yea some places i've been to you could buy rabbit meat snacks in a bag etc
neat shadow
FEAR THE WRATH OF THE BUNNY ARMY
hexed roost
be careful who's bunny it is you're eating
you might get daisy and then... it's all over, bub
you're screwed
graceful wing
rip
neat shadow
genocide ensue
actually have a bunny in the middle of chapter 3, and It's like Caerbannog
hexed roost
do what they did in max payne 1
if you piss off the rats in the subway they all take out pistols and kill you
neat shadow
haha
hexed roost
maiden cosmos
The game was re-released on PS4 with added Trophy support, I wonder if you get a trophy for killing rats
junior phoenix
but looks cool af
neat shadow
do something like in sw1 and 2 where they send a death metal bunny after you
I just wanna see a low-poly bunny jump at the player's throat
junior phoenix
headhumper style
hexed roost
yeeeess
neat shadow
well, caerbannog style
neat shadow
neat shadow
nothing like it. Very fitting for those guys
neat shadow
have you never saw this?
neat shadow
make sense
actually there is numerous references to this in fallout 2
and one in the original sw
so y'know... why not dusk?
junior phoenix
everybody likes rodents
junior phoenix
rats, bunnies, thingys
needs to be in dusk for sure
@gleaming berry what about banana bomb? too OP for dusk?
neat shadow
has there been a holy hand grenade in an fps?
neat shadow
jesus no banana bomb, just think of the corridor self damage
neat shadow
are they critters or enemies?
junior phoenix
woohoo
slate edge
Add lurker enemies
gleaming berry
ooh good iddea
dawn granite
great
junior phoenix
it wouldnt be proper FPS without crawling-type enemies
neat shadow
I'm having flashbacks of that doom mod with crabs that slowly drain your health without you noticing it
slate edge
@gleaming berry They are in hordes, steal your keys and do 1 hp damage per second.
neat shadow
that sound like it should be carefully used in the level design
exotic ibex
so @gleaming berry how did @junior phoenix manage to get a key? i havent seen you or anyone drop one in a decent bit.
jade root
@gleaming berry found a good model for the lurker model
neat shadow
he asked for it
jade root
exotic ibex
wasnt there a chat command i could throw up that pointed out no asking for a key?
junior phoenix
man im writting for an editorial
exotic ibex
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
neat shadow
keyfaqing is meme now be careful
junior phoenix
PC_REVUE
vague egret
Might consider PMing Dave directly for something like that
junior phoenix
local PC and IT enthusiast magazine
neat shadow
he did
junior phoenix
yep i did
I was talking bout it with @zealous bridge who sent me a contact on Dave
mild ginkgo
14 twitter followers, gotta step the game up
junior phoenix
I wrote him on his mail from business adress
mild ginkgo
Ask lain for followers
vague egret
Then you've done all there is to be done. Gentle reminders is all that's left
neat shadow
No I mean he actually got the key
vague egret
Oh he did? I misunderstood then.
neat shadow
hank asked him how he got the key, seeing none has been dropped on the chat
obtuse apex
begging confirmed works
vague egret
It doesn't
neat shadow
That's understandable and was more polite than mine @exotic ibex
exotic ibex
looks like it worked for him
neat shadow
*my reaction
vague egret
Anyways. Defer to the keyfaq for proper key guidence. Begging isn't something I recommend you try
exotic ibex
im just pointing out a descrepency
junior phoenix
i technically wasnt begging, but i wont spill oil to the raging fire anymore
vague egret
NEW TOPIC THINGY. THIS ONE SUCKS
neat shadow
better go the needlessly complicated way of trying to cheat through, Vil.e.Coyote style
quiet rose
I mean.
The stuff ive looked up is pretty sketchy
but oh well
back to #bnnuy-and-the-jits
neat shadow
transition time, where the hell is that machine gun and why can't I use it's recoil to fly cartoon style
crystal vessel
I loved the moon map in Killing Floor because you could propel yourself across the map with a shotgun
neat shadow
closest I got is the tf2's force-a-nature
with a low-grav server
Cave story allow that if I remember correctly, but only at lvl 3
exotic ibex
:^)
junior phoenix
google failed me once again
exotic ibex
ill be waiting for the article fampai
junior phoenix
i think theres english version of the site too
junior phoenix
haters gonna hate
junior phoenix
man you have some serious issues
jade root
take a photo of it?
obtuse apex
wow
quiet rose
I mean, would be pretty shitty if you get a key for "writing" an article and then it doesnt exist.
obtuse apex
bullying is against rules
exotic ibex
im sorry i go along with the rules fampai. and when other get a free pass above those rules that i get a tad butthurt
neat shadow
we need some counter salt measures and fast
junior phoenix
dave knows all important along with Christian who gave me the appropriate info so thats what matters, ill upload photo when it gets live dont worry, post it here just so you can sleep at night :)
and now to the other topic
sth to discuss?
neat shadow
sure thing
junior phoenix
not keys releated?
neat shadow
what about an anti-powerup that gives every weapons insane recoil knockback?
obtuse apex
so i got a new key made today
junior phoenix
lmao
neat shadow
dud plz
wraith relic
powerdown
quiet rose
🔑 ?
neat shadow
and then you put secrets that require the use of that massive recoil
junior phoenix
...
jade root
all of breads shotguns do that
quiet rose
bye
crystal vessel
Bye
neat shadow
k c ya
not as much as the russian overkill quad shotgun tho @jade root
sry quad quad shotgun
acoustic oriole
cya
jade root
everything in russian overkill would rip your arms off
neat shadow
that plane launching minigun would just turn you into sludge
actually every pillowblaster weapon would rip your arm off
quiet rose
no key today lads
sudden raft
but i won
worn nest
multiplayer beta
jade root
no
slate edge
🇳 🇴
vague egret
no
slate edge
makes another account and continues chain of no
vague egret
also no
atomic egret
no
vital glacier
I cant wait any longer for dusk
jade root
Too bad
vague egret
WAIT LONGER
slate edge
👶
quiet rose
slate edge
😱
dusty blaze
🤔
gleaming berry
jade root
Unless your gonna meme, get out Dave
graceful wing
jade root
Avain gets it
spiral halo
Dave is a meme lord so there is no stopping him.
slate edge
crimson folio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJh6hIqffo&t=186s This would be a fitting album to listen to while playing Dusk.
quiet rose
@gleaming berry
teal night
Sounds like redneck black metal.
I'd rather listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPf56QaRXhg
subtle bane
jade root
DUSK Lost squad
slate edge
Goddamnit
Mouse acceleration is killing me
And i cant go into a menu or .ini file to change it.
Who uses mouse acceleration?!
acoustic oriole
there's mouse acceleration on? Oo
slate edge
I hate it, its like going from 0 to 9000 in a milisecond
junior phoenix
acoustic oriole
oh, I thought you were talking about Dusk lol
acoustic oriole
my thoughts exactly
junior phoenix
do you actually have proper dinput.dll installed? if you are on newer system?
i had similiar issue in GTA SA and turned out it needed dinput.dll from DirectX 8
it was bugged with newer one
jade root
@thorn trout we gonna get double screenshots since today is actually saturday?
jade root
just post pics from the demo build and be like 'MAKIN PROGRESS BOYS"
GIFs are cool
oh yeah did that trailer upload?
thorn trout
new trailer isn't ready yet. I was just getting footage uploaded to use
jade root
there be a new dusk trailer comin soon(tm)
prisma halo
sweet
jade root
its just a spinning trollface for 4 hours
prisma halo
accurate representation
thorn trout
^^^^^
jade root
will dusk have a dong slider like conan exiles
maiden cosmos
Or better, a detailed gore mechanic
I'm not asking for a Soldier of Fortune 2 level of gore, just a really good one
acoustic oriole
new trailer in works? color me hyped
acoustic oriole
sometimes less is more
jade root
mhm
prisma halo
One of the first mods I want to make to show off the SDK is a basic dismemberment mod
that and big head mode
jade root
there you go Idris
zombies on it
but NO ADVANCED STUFF HERE
ONLY 1996 TECH ALLOWED
prisma halo
clearly it has to be precise SW2 gore instead of disappearing body parts
jade root
that gmod dismemberment addon does a pretty good job for what it is
slate edge
roblox has great violence
jade root
^^
crimson folio
Farmer Assassins
jade root
w a t
obsidian hazel
Enemy variant on the Scarecrow with the shotgun: Scarecrow with a pitchfork
Have it spit quotes from Blood and there we go
Shit enemy
acoustic oriole
https://twitter.com/DUSKdev/status/832986387045552128
holy CRAP @thorn trout
slate edge
slow mo gibs :D
neat shadow
now do it upside-down
slate edge
mild ginkgo
crimson folio
also is there also a Design for the "hero" already?
Nope
Not that we know of
now I mean we havent seen enough to know about a story or anything, but I always Imagine a Famer-Ninja jumping and full lead blazing across the level and endless mode
just an Idea
narrow mica
i drew the heretic as a clean shaven military vet who had been cursed by the cult
i'll find the sketch and post it hang on
crimson folio
heretic? is that the Protags "name"?
also I mean you can have a rifle so you can basically quick and flickscope scarecrows
quiet rose
duskdude is his name
narrow mica
the first thing that happens is hulshult yells "kill the heretic" so i just kinda guessed that was his name
crimson folio
"Kill the intruder" actually
acoustic oriole
I kinda imagine DuskDude as Caleb, but with more "country"-ish colors on the clothes. and a cover over his face like in Kamizam's drawing
quiet rose
he doesnt get called a heretic. in the trailer it says "Be branded a heretic"
crimson folio
That's a nice concept
crimson folio
Yes, I am quite fast
More specifically, my right hand Lenny face
Yea
I draw occasionally
That's really good
acoustic oriole
It's very nicely done
crimson folio
Yes
thanks mate
Maybe should make a full bodyshot and throw that in too, or General
crimson folio
Trenchcoatwearing Farmer Ninja, MAN CAN YOU IMAGINE THE EDGE 
acoustic oriole
crimson folio
WHO DOWN 💯 WE CURSED MY DUDES 💯 💯 💯
acoustic oriole
a hillbilly Rorschach :P
crimson folio
Im no locked up in here with yus fellas, all yall asses are locked up in ere with me n my trusty Shotty lisa, yall hear?
Hey guys, is it possible to get a dusk beta key?
I was listening to a ggg podcast and one of the devs said they're giving out alpha or beta keys on their discord server
graceful wing
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
graceful wing
good luck!
crimson folio
Thank you!
acoustic oriole
welcome and good luck! 
jade root
Get an icon
crimson folio
Sorry, I just got discord specifically for Dusk and I have no idea where's what. Still trying to learn. Man this game can't come out fast enough.
neat shadow
<--- options are over there : )
graceful wing
click that little gear icon to the bottom left. you can get to your personal settings from there 👍
crimson folio
Got it, thanks. By the way, how are these keys given? Through a PM of some sort or through this main chat window?
graceful wing
usually they're just dropped into one of the channels at random. the best way to get one is to just be active on here
crimson folio
Cool, thanks.
acoustic oriole
I wonder if there will be floating\flying enemies. Sort of like Q1's Scrag or DOOM's Cacodemons (FUCK LOST SOULS, NONONO)
would be hilarious fighting a flying enemy mid-air from a jump-pad
they don't have to be a monster, obviously. whatever suits the theme
neat shadow
I'm fine with lost souls, just not coming from a pain elemental
crimson folio
or just hack into them with the sickles and gain extra upwards momentum or general speed when jumping off'em
neat shadow
you can't jump on flying enemies if there is no free space left in the sky by those hell-spawners
neat shadow
gotta put those hunting rifle shells to good use
crimson folio
I mean, that here could be a thing, huh?
mild ginkgo
these sketches are great
neat shadow
I'd be fine with that look
mild ginkgo
blood is obv one of the main inspirations
crimson folio
Blood is my #1 FPS game of all time and I've played most FPS games made...what you said makes the wait just harder
Ah, you weren't talking about Dusk, but about the sketch
is Dusk any similar to Blood though?
mild ginkgo
no, i was talking about dusk
crimson folio
So...we live again, quite literally?
mild ginkgo
well they havent revealed much in terms of lore yet :^)
you can always try to ask @thorn trout
acoustic oriole
@crimson folio holy hell, that's awesome
mild ginkgo
jefe tell him how you guys love blood
crimson folio
You know, even though Atari is being a dick about Blood license, you can get Blood 1 run really well, still. I've got it modded to a mouse support with interpolation, so it runs just like a modern game would.
crimson folio
Yes jefequeso, source code would be great but I don't think we're gonna get it. Unfortunately. The Dosbox can be modded greatly though! I still play this game once a year. Love it.
acoustic oriole
I hope gdxBlood will be successful, he seems to have made progress so far
thorn trout
On my machine it doesn't do well in DosBox and the fov/resolution are a bit of a pain. Runs well enough for me to play it though which is what counts
acoustic oriole
I never got around to play it, because I found out about it way too late. And it's a real bitch to get it running the way I want it
crimson folio
500_pts someone said they wanted a double digits of millions of $ for the IP o.O
tawny kindle
There's a eduke32 remake of it that's pretty fantastic
mild ginkgo
they would actually get 13.50
acoustic oriole
BloodCM, yeah, I heard
mild ginkgo
which is more than they will get with that pricetag
crimson folio
lemme just say, it reminds me of some Quake mod, but like the modder just sacrificed a hooker, mixed her blood with cocaine, consumed that, then sat down on his PC and let the energydrink-bloodcocaine-mixure-induced hallucinations take over and in the end Satan edits and uploads a trailer and names it Dusk
tawny kindle
BloodCM is the only way I've played it
crimson folio
Blood 3 or whatever would sell pretty well imo, but not to that extent. Shadow Warrior re-release was good, wasn't it?
mild ginkgo
im offering them an infinitely greater amount of money than they will recieve
acoustic oriole
though I heard something about BloodCM being not entirely accurate to the original game, but it was updated since, so I have no idea how true or wrong that is
past linden
The reboots of SW were OK but the first is still the best
acoustic oriole
or if it ever was true to begin with
past linden
SW 2 was pretty rad though
thorn trout
@crimson folio not entirely inaccurate :)
crimson folio
is there a kickstarter for Dusk?
I don't like SW2. I like the classic, the redux and SW reboot
hollow ivyBOT
acoustic oriole
- controls myself not to go into a rant about SW2 *
acoustic oriole
I think I'll agree to disagree about that
though there are definitely some improvements in it
undisputed improvements
such as no dying from running down stairs (lol)
and more nimble movement
neat shadow
first thing coming to mind is the lack of proper levels when it comes to rants
past linden
Fair enough, as long as we all can agree the original's the best i don't really care
acoustic oriole
I've ranted enough in this discord about SW2, I'll spare you guys my BS today lol
crimson folio
Is Dusk made like shadow warrior reboot - i.e. arena with spawning enemies, or more like doom, blood, quake - predefined levels with enemy positions etc.?
past linden
Quake
thorn trout
no arena bullcrap here
past linden
As it should be
thorn trout
👍
junior phoenix
@thorn trout 6$ per month? quite succesful campaign man
neat shadow
pure run and gun here
crimson folio
man this game can not come out fast enough 😦
acoustic oriole
endless can scratch an arena itch
thorn trout
I mean, I think the "arena with spawning enemies" thing is fun and has its place, but I've been itching for a retro FPS that really focuses on handcrafted level design for awhile now.
so that's what Dusk is
past linden
Hand placed baddies will always be better then arena spawns
thorn trout
Yeah, there is an endless mode that's basically arenas, but that's far from the main event
crimson folio
I personally think Painkiller was the only one who pulled off arenas really well. Jef, same, although some latest releases did me well (Doom, Wolfenstein).
past linden
The new wolf games were hand placed too
thorn trout
Yeah Painkiller is my arena shooter of choice.
Serious Sam is loads of fun too, as well as the new Doom
past linden
The optimization on Doom 16' still blows me away
crimson folio
I'm not a huge fan of SS got to admit, but I did buy and go through all of them regardless. The carefully thought levels and enemy placement is still where my heart is
crimson folio
jef, you're a developer of Dusk?
past linden
Yea
mild ginkgo
THE developer
past linden
^
crimson folio
so uhmm how much would I have to transfer via patreon for an alpha key of dusk? 😛
junior phoenix
he is the puppet master here
neat shadow
check the right pannel. you can see wich person does what
thorn trout
@crimson folio yeah I'm the dev. Only way to get a key is to be lucky when Dave drops one in chat :)
I'm the dev, Dave is the man in charge, basically.
crimson folio
Well can we take a look at other questionable method then? haha
junior phoenix
you dont want to
junior phoenix
harr harr
crimson folio
oh, you meant pirating..no, I'm fine with paying for an alpha key and I'll buy it again when it's released, no prob
junior phoenix
mild ginkgo
i didnt mean pirating
crimson folio
I didn't even think of pirating actually
neat shadow
just wait for El Oshcuro to drop a key, that's really all you can do
past linden
Once you're in the alpha you keep the full game
neat shadow
w8 wat?
past linden
Yeh
crimson folio
oh
junior phoenix
can confirm, asked bout it dave yesterday
crimson folio
I don't want the game for free o.O
acoustic oriole
I still refuse to enjoy that benefit. I'll buy an extra copy, plus the soundtrack, because Andrew's work is epic as well
junior phoenix
he prolly spoke it too when i was not here
past linden
Then get a key and send some money through patreon
thorn trout
yeah alpha keys = full game eventually
crimson folio
oh cool
past linden
I'm buying the soundtrack day one though
crimson folio
can I just buy an alpha key then? like through patreon or something?
jade root
NO EARN YOUR DAMN KEY
junior phoenix
@urban sparrow will be flooded with money when the game releases
neat shadow
I'll buy the soundtrack too, I'll have my triple D OST trinity
junior phoenix
same David
thorn trout
Yeah sorry, we're not doing anything like that. All key stuff goes through Dave since he's the guy who has access to generating keys etc
past linden
No, this dave
thorn trout
it's confusing
crimson folio
But I don't want the game for free...take my money yo
thorn trout
I'm David, he's Dave
past linden
This is the Dave who gives keys:
neat shadow
don't worry gettin a key is challenging enough
past linden
^
acoustic oriole
@junior phoenix money and another epic creation under his belt.
thorn trout
BLAME DAVE, THIS IS ALL HIS THING
past linden
But oh so worth it
thorn trout
I just make the game :P
jade root
snorts "hard"
mild ginkgo
challenging for some, shortcutted by others
acoustic oriole
getting a key will probably get harder and harder as time goes by
neat shadow
not this again pliz
acoustic oriole
as this Discord grows
vivid cape
more like easier and easier
junior phoenix
well people come and go
acoustic oriole
only the strongest shall remain
junior phoenix
i saw max. like 300 people at once here in three days, is lower usually
acoustic oriole
and only the douchebags will leave upon getting their key
mild ginkgo
how are you making statements about trends after 3 days
crimson folio
I like this project
neat shadow
as far as lurkers goes I didn't saw anyone staying afterward, but I'm kinda new to this
junior phoenix
im not
crimson folio
so I aint leaving
junior phoenix
just observation
past linden
I stayed afterward
crimson folio
Do we have any news on the price yet? Gonna be in the lines of RotT?
past linden
Around 20$
jade root
15-20
neat shadow
"less than no man sky, more than devildaggers"
crimson folio
So...who do I have to transfer 40 bucks to for alpha key then? 😛
thorn trout
yeah we're planning around $20 but that's not a set price.
jade root
Quit begging
junior phoenix
seeing all the half-baked games getting released and asking 100$ for complete package, 50$ is nice price
jade root
It's annoying
past linden
^
thorn trout
and more for the sexy big box collector's edition
jade root
Wait for a key or wait for the release
crimson folio
How is offering money for a product begging?
thorn trout
I won't object to people begging to give me money :)
past linden
😛
vivid cape
just don't offer anything
thorn trout
but sadly we can't do that... yet.
neat shadow
Rules are there dude, gotta stay fair for anyone
jade root
Mhm
vivid cape
when the product is ready you can offer all the money
past linden
^
jade root
Or you can wait and get a key, then buy someone else the game if you are so compelled
acoustic oriole
gotta say that not taking the Early Access route is a smart move
past linden
And buy the soundtrack
thorn trout
Like I said, keep an eye out for preorders, since we might be doing that at some point. Otherwise... well, game will be out this year :)
vivid cape
anyway alpha is only 1 level for now
crimson folio
kk
past linden
It's not Lv 1, just the demo lv
jade root
Save your money for that pornhub subscription
neat shadow
with horendous jetpack-ladders
thorn trout
ladders are the hardest enemy in the alpha demo
past linden
True that
thorn trout
almost destroyed Jim Sterling
jade root
Not as bad as DS1 ladders but close
acoustic oriole
LOL
past linden
They were fixed in the Pax demo but we don't have that in the alpha... (Hint hint)
junior phoenix
the ladders in alpha should be a minigame of its own
past linden
You're not wrong...
neat shadow
gotta brb, I'm gonna commit the worst of pizza crimes
acoustic oriole
you should make a spinoff puzzle game
past linden
Ohmy
past linden
VERY carefully
acoustic oriole
you should just name it "Climb"
junior phoenix
biggest puzzle known to man
jade root
DUSK but it's the pipe puzzles from bioshock
Every time you want to shoot
Pipe puzzle
jade root
Receiver is good though
past linden
Yea
jade root
I got really good at receiver
past linden
I got OK
junior phoenix
i have it sitting in my library but never played it :D
past linden
I think i only have 15 or so hours in it
junior phoenix
got it with some bundle i think
past linden
It's a damn good demo
jade root
Serious, go play it. It's a blast
past linden
^
junior phoenix
i was buyng them bundles on HB like crazy some time ago
past linden
Makes 2 of us
vivid cape
that's nothing... I have a friend with mote than 1000+ games
acoustic oriole
what's Receiver?
vivid cape
and saw people with 3k
past linden
A really rad FPS demo
junior phoenix
i saw some dude with like 2000+ games? maybe he has more now
vivid cape
there's actually people with 6k
crimson folio
NOW HERES SOMETHING I COULD TRY ON LONGER
also I have like 100 games guys do you have too much moneys?
junior phoenix
and then theres gabe
past linden
@thorn trout
junior phoenix
owning everything
acoustic oriole
holy crap LOL
vivid cape
gabe owns you!
past linden
That art's amazing
jade root
Nah lot of stuff is from bundles
mild ginkgo
gabes account does not own every game btw
past linden
The Doom cover makes everything better
vivid cape
bundles only create backlogs
junior phoenix
@crimson folio that needs to be promoi art
crimson folio
I've got 500 games and still feel humbled by a friend who has nearly 4k, heh.
yeah Ill see if Id finsih that
acoustic oriole
I have 556
thorn trout
wow @crimson folio those are awesome :D
past linden
H Y P E
junior phoenix
btw
is the goodies pack getting updated on some basis?
i mean the one on NB website
crimson folio
goodies pack?
past linden
thorn trout
the press kit? No, we haven't updated it.
junior phoenix
thats from where you got the logo
@thorn trout oh ok, thought there would be stuff added as development progresses
thorn trout
naw sorry. Best way to see dev screenshots and stuff is to follow @duskdev on Twitter like @past linden says
crimson folio
just followed
junior phoenix
i hate it
crimson folio
also dont go on my Twitter
crimson folio
that would ruin my new build rep
junior phoenix
this is a price worth paying
thorn trout
@crimson folio well now you know the first thing I have to do is go on your Twitter :P
junior phoenix
to see no
past linden
Yea, don't go on my twitter either, or follow
junior phoenix
but to follow for sure
at least it makes sense
ill check it later lazy to do things on mobile
thanks for directions
jade root
Twitter has been literal garbage recently
junior phoenix
David's NEW Footage 8-29-16.zip
very new
:D
just browsing through dem goodies for now
jade root
I unfollowed a lot of people recently
thorn trout
yeah there's a bunch of first trailer b roll in there
junior phoenix
i like that you have ai version of logo there too
many press kits dont bother and leave there just some "highrez" image
nice to have it vectorized
mild ginkgo
yeah im sure itll come in useful to you
crimson folio
@thorn trout here ya go my dude https://twitter.com/Kamizorn
Mayn Im gonna draw that stuff now
thorn trout
👍
slate edge
woo
crimson folio
happy lil farmerninja or something
jade root
*memeninja
crimson folio
Dusk is memeworthy even before an initial releease
crimson folio
aye