It's like a sticky wall but only on an axis, it's weird
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
neat shadow
junior phoenix
or just some sort of a problem there?
mild ginkgo
It has to do with the unlocked axis for backdrops actually
thorn trout
also you don't stay on them when you aren't moving. You just fall back down
mild ginkgo
If you look too far up on the ladder, your controls go wonk because it thinks you're flipping
thorn trout
but now they're much better
mild ginkgo
👍
neat shadow
I didn't even noticed that, I was to angry flayling the mouse like an idiot to push the gas can in the attic
junior phoenix
i dont personally know whats the code behind it but i imagine it shouldnt be anything special, or is it?
lets have a little chit-chat, programmer vs. programmer :D
i didnt seen the ladders or anything besides video so i dont know what are exactly wrong with them, only what i saw/heard
and when we kinda started talking about them...
could be interesting, even about sth like this
thorn trout
well, erm... see, here's the thing: the code for the ladders USED to be code I just threw in there to test a possible jetpack function early on. That idea was scrapped, but the code was still there, so when I decided to add ladders I just repurposed it. So when you're climbing ladders in the demo, basically what's happening is the game senses you're in a ladder trigger area, and when you are it activates the jetpack, which will make you go up whenever w or space is pressed
I made a lot of improvements since so now it cares whether you're looking at the ladder or not, it turns off gravity, it knows whether you're looking up or down, etc. But, the boolean that decides whether or not you're climbing a ladder is still called "hasjetpack" :D
because that's just the sort of programmer I am
prisma halo
that reminds me, been meaning to ask
any significance to water being on two separate layers? (20 & 21)
thorn trout
say what
hmm
oh
I think one of those is a Unity default layer
WaterLayer is mine
Water I think is one of the ones they automatically have
prisma halo
ah
thorn trout
@junior phoenix the dirty secret about Dusk is most of the programmers on here are far better programmers thn I m :P
prisma halo
the catch is that you're still better at pretty much everything else :p
I can't design levels to save my life
thorn trout
heh I guess yeh
junior phoenix
i dont know who but sb suggested that why no game with ladders have some snapping func when ex. i press E and i snap to it, without getting through all the trouble
i think that should be really easy to implement and could ease a lot of pain during playthrough, but again, it would kinda slow the pace down...
anyway, i think i could think of something usable
well nobody's perfect :P
prisma halo
imo it's better to have a balanced skillset than being totally OP in a single area
thorn trout
doesn't Half-life 2 have that?
thorn trout
@prisma halo I suppose it depends on your career path. This is basically what I want to do, so yeah, knowing how to do a lot of stuff is definitely a plus. If I were trying to be a programmer, maybe not so much
@junior phoenix it snaps you to the ladder if you press e, and imo works pretty darn well. Surprising that it took so long for FPS to figure that out :)
so many amazing games out there with terrible ladder controls
junior phoenix
yeah
prisma halo
I guess you've got a point there
junior phoenix
but in this case, i think it could be counterproductive, depends on design, as i stated
anyway, maybe combination of two could be done
prisma halo
being a one-man army is definitely useful though
junior phoenix
like per se going down the ladder
biggest problem ever
:D
just press E and i go
or lets say i need to drop down quickly but not die, so lets get this ability to another level and be able to snap to ladder midair with E as well, efectivelly evading enemy projectiles
i think it could be fairly easily implemented, alongside existing systems maybe
so when im near a ladder and need to get up to escape battle, i can still use HL1 style ladder thingy - use best of the both worlds basically
thorn trout
I gotta run, but I'll catch you all later :)
junior phoenix
also, i dont know how you have things implemented, but i imagine that when you have trigger or collision happen with the ladder x player, you could just set bool in player onLadder or anywhere you are controlling input from and change logic according to it kind, taking account camera angle and key being pressed, i think you could get very smooth controls, if done right
cya later :)
obtuse apex
just use scratch
neat shadow
you do that. I can't even use the deadbolt level editor properly
junior phoenix
well, im programming from when i was 7yo so :D
also, ive done some things in the past with unity, just need to get the newest version
neat shadow
I need to start using unity
junior phoenix
yeah, you should, if you want to try create games :) its farily easy to get into, better than in its first iteration :D
that was horendous
neat shadow
last time I just shrugged at the 2d physics because I couldn't make a proper jump key. it always felt floaty af
junior phoenix
also, there are many great tutorials on the web, personaly i like quill18, Brackeys and Sil Tutorials
watching them from time to time, sometime i even learn something interesting :P
neat shadow
Even the official unity stream vod's are quite interesting, there's a lot of good stuff
junior phoenix
never watched them, never really need to anyway
i never really watched tutorials when i think about it, i always just looked into docs. my friend gave me an introduction to unity, when it was like 3.X.X and from there on i was playing with it
when i needed something, i looked it up in docs or just asked him
but now, im doing my own engine
i have higher demands now kinda :P
going kinda good i think, have some basic layout for it with some basic things implemented
neat shadow
What kind of engine are you making?
junior phoenix
game engine of course :P
im doing it in C++ with OpenGL as the rendering API and planning to use OpenAl for sound
and possibly even implement Vulkan to it later on (seems like great API to me, am following it from its first announcment, but for now, I'm aiming to get sth on screen first and not writting WHOLE shit myself when it comes how to draw sth to screen, like getting devices list, setting device, ..., which OpenGL does for me, even when it is less optimised sort of)
also, im aiming not to use 3rd party libs
so far i have my own linear algebra header with some other "essential" classes like Engine, System, Component, Mesh, Renderer, ...
anyway, this is not really DUSK releated sooo kinda bloating shit here now :D
junior phoenix
well, when mods were not playing they were kinda against it before
neat shadow
closer stuff is mod-a-mania
junior phoenix
but now yeah they prolly dont care :D
im going to sleep soon...
just need da key :P
neat shadow
what time is it?
neat shadow
ho shit son same timezone
junior phoenix
noice
ok ill try to do some simple scene and implement some basic ladder physics, maybe i think of something workable
if the ladders are really that bad...
wanna try it so badly tho :D
neat shadow
well he did say they are fixed
junior phoenix
well even when they are
lets think of it as an exercise
:P
its fun to mess with things like this
actually, i find it more enjoyable than playing games for few years now
creating my own, trying things
neat shadow
also if I had the choice between c++ and death I'd be speaking to you through vodoo ghost magic right now
prisma halo
C++ isn't really that hard though
junior phoenix
^^
all it takes is practise
and want to learn
after few simple things you find out it is nothing horrible
and start to be interested in it more deeply, if it is your cup of tea
i got to it through my dad, as he was showing me old Commodore 64 he found in the basement and got me hyped as he showed me some Basic scripting (Basic is a programming language if you dont know)
neat shadow
don't worry I got this
prisma halo
yeah
junior phoenix
but sure, in nonliteral sense :D
neat shadow
I had a short c++ course once and I don't know if it was because at the time I didn't understood stuff as much as I do right now but I don't wanna see that syntax anymore. I'm definitely down for some c# tho, kinda want to learn that
prisma halo
C#'s pretty good
C++ and C# syntax are very similar though
idk what exactly you didn't like
junior phoenix
only major differences i can tell are no pointers (at least they are not needed in most cases, so less * thingys) and using instead of #include
junior phoenix
everything else i think is pretty much the same, maybe some other logic behind are different, like constructors destructors
yeah i know
prisma halo
There are quite a few different rules in C#
junior phoenix
thats why i wrote they are not needed
prisma halo
C# class access modifier syntax is different too
neat shadow
must be something with pointers yeah, toughest shit to learn.
junior phoenix
yeah private is default
prisma halo
I mean how you specify it
neat shadow
there's like a special friendly state if I can remember
prisma halo
in C# it's part of the function definition, in C++ it's part of the class
obtuse apex
Serious can u teach me java so i can make my furry minecraft mod a reality
junior phoenix
ok ok, there are many :D im not thinking about them anymore really
i know that when we should discuss all things thoroughly we could find dozens things
like bytecode instead of machinecode
neat shadow
java isn't a bd place to start actually when it comes to coding
prisma halo
C++:
class Example
{
public:
void SomePublicFunc() {}
private:
void SomePrivateFunc() {}
protected:
void SomeProtectedFunc() {}
}```
CSharp:
```CSharp
class Example
{
public void SomePublicFunc() {}
private void SomePrivateFunc() {}
protected void SomeProtectedFunc() {}
}```C# compiles to IL, which gets JIT compiled
prisma halo
and Java is an awful language to use, beginner or not, imo
junior phoenix
anyway, they are different in syntax a little, but moreover the same thats what i wanted to say
neat shadow
It's kinda the only available thing when it comes to android tho
junior phoenix
because when you look at public: and X functions under it and public func1() public func2()
etc.
its kinda same
prisma halo
You can write Android programs in C#, C and C++
obtuse apex
minecraft = java
junior phoenix
you have Android NDK for C/C++ code and Mono for Android as well i think
obtuse apex
minecraft = good
exotic ibex
:^)
prisma halo
Minecraft is also a very poorly written game
junior phoenix
or some level of emulation at least
junior phoenix
*JIT not emulation
exotic ibex
i like the way you think wiiu
prisma halo
don't quote me on it but I think .NET Core officially supports Android now too
junior phoenix
Telling sb Java is good just cause it can be used on multiple platforms is like telling sb anal sex is good cause it can be used on multiple genders
neat shadow
.NET being everywhere I think it's a solid choice ye
junior phoenix
I think .NET was just opensourced by M$ or not?
obtuse apex
R u arguing with a law of math
prisma halo
.NET and C# are open source
junior phoenix
and not directly ported
prisma halo
under MIT
junior phoenix
well it wasnt
prisma halo
but .NET Core has official support for Mac & Linux
junior phoenix
as I remembre
prisma halo
and is also open source
neat shadow
yup
junior phoenix
hmm interesting
i thought mono got created because net was closesourced
dunno why now
prisma halo
C# and .NET weren't always open source, but Microsoft eventually realized that it was rather stupid to close-source a programming language
Mono was created primarily to support C#/.NET on non-Windows platforms, iirc
junior phoenix
yeah thats what i remembered
you just messed my memories up with that qoute somehow :D
prisma halo
lmao
exotic ibex
yer gonna die fam
junior phoenix
no.. how is it called...
exotic ibex
go to sleep
neat shadow
well El Oshcuro is afk so It's not for now
mild ginkgo
Yeah you'll die waiting for the key and not sleeping
obtuse apex
serious where are you at that its so late lol
mild ginkgo
That's a promise
neat shadow
ECT
junior phoenix
lel all the lurkers started flaming
neat shadow
aka gmt+1 as I like to call it
junior phoenix
on another one
exotic ibex
i r no lurker
mild ginkgo
Nobody in this convo is a lurker
junior phoenix
ou
well tbh i came here as one but sitting here for two days
i like this comunity
nice chatting here about things
also devs are getting in chats too
neat shadow
I think that's the intended effect
junior phoenix
its nice
neat shadow
It's pretty cool
junior phoenix
anyway what i wanted?
shiiiit, nvm
i remember eventually
ou yes
i cant sleep anyway
obtuse apex
sorry 4 lurking
junior phoenix
tommor i have last try to finish finals so
or how to say that sooo
no sleep for me till its done
neat shadow
got some homeworks to do?
junior phoenix
nono
prisma halo
brb
junior phoenix
like end the tests at the end of semester
neat shadow
yeah finals nvm
junior phoenix
im attending university
exotic ibex
where at
junior phoenix
yeah thought so
here in my country, Comenius University
in Bratislava, SLovakia
quite nerve-wrecking, thought it would be easier
failed 2 times, have last chance tommorow
exotic ibex
cant study and shitpost at the same time
junior phoenix
when interesting debate started
junior phoenix
yeah right now yeah i have it on the side just to watch :P
only joind conversation cause it got interesting thats all :P
quiet rose
junior phoenix
anyway, ill go to learn something now
neat shadow
I kinda did that for a bit actually, 'xcept I was in a middle of a lecture
junior phoenix
thanks for chat guys
junior phoenix
sure thing
btw, aorry for starting OT things here... ill write this things in #bnnuy-and-the-jits from now on... it just kinda wetn downhill here really quick :D
jade root
@thorn trout i was playing through dusk again and I found a bug im not even sure how to replicate. I was using pistols, zoomed and at the same time the game stuttered and my fov went to, like, 40 and the screen flipped
wew
jade root
like a complete x-axis flip
mild ginkgo
So shut just went totally upside down? That's kinda sick
Ui included?
I forget off the top of my head if unity cameras support negative values, but that'd do it for sure
lavish galleon
You've got full 360 degree rotation, so flipping isnt a rare occourance but I think that might have been a bug... You'd have to re-produce it and record it to send off to devs
thorn trout
@jade root holy crap
hmm
I have a theory
The zoom code seems to act weird at low framerates
jade root
Yeah I was super stoked when it happened
thorn trout
like, really low framerates
jade root
Anyway I could possibly forced a capped frame rate to test it?
thorn trout
so there might be a chance that it stuttered, and during the stutter the fov bugged out to go really high, which would cause the view to appear inverted
jade root
thats prolly it
thorn trout
there's no way to cap the framerate from the player's side in the demo (although there will be in the final version). I'll have to run some tests on my end
I'll make a note of it. Thanks for letting me know
junior phoenix
well you can cap the framerate with some apps
junior phoenix
at least change refresh rate of a monitor to a lower than factory level and force VSYNC on
via custom resolution option in both nvidia and amd apps
just a tip
jade root
too much effort
jade root
ill ask zombie about it
junior phoenix
i believe there are some apps able to do it for you kinda tho
thorn trout
actually I think he probably can pretty easily
thorn trout
ahh, that's right
jade root
steev got, like, 4000 frames
junior phoenix
oh yeah i forgot
jade root
twas beautiful
junior phoenix
in unity u can specify framerate
prisma halo
I could
junior phoenix
with some command
prisma halo
...if I wasn't at TAFE right now
junior phoenix
dont remember what tho
prisma halo
I'll be home in ~2 hours
prisma halo
Yeah
thorn trout
in the current version you can change the frame cap via dusk.ini
but not in the demo :(
prisma halo
-1 for automatic framerate (usually uncapped, but I wouldn't recommend using -1 for that)
Int32.MaxValue (4294967295) for "uncapped"
junior phoenix
how can low framerate affect that?
prisma halo
I wonder what 0 does
junior phoenix
there must be some error in bounds checks
or sth
dont know how your code looks like so just suggestions
jade root
dont worry guys
thorn trout
easy. Because I am the Eurojank of programmers :P
jade root
on the case
prisma halo
whoa spooky
thorn trout
the zoom script probably just has some stupid thing in it that doesn't play nice when the framerate is like 0 or something
I'll look into it
thorn trout
yeah those are always there. Ignore them.
junior phoenix
so maybe script stopped executing mid-work
thorn trout
blame Unity
thorn trout
they don't cause any issues, but they log as errors
prisma halo
Those are errors related to accessing a value in an array that doesn't exist
thorn trout
yeah I know what they are
junior phoenix
just sayin
jade root
no ones listenin
prisma halo
As a result, they wouldn't be related to the bug, @junior phoenix
Since they always appear in the pre pre pre alpha demo
junior phoenix
well they cause, but you maybe just didnt realised it till now, they must cause sth, as when error occurs unity jumps out of func where error occured
thorn trout
I spent some time trying to figure out why they keep happening, but from what I can see they shouldn't be happening. But they are happening. But they don't cause any issues for anything else. So I'm ignoring them right now
junior phoenix
or at least thats what happened in most cases to me when i was doing sth
prisma halo
I've looked at it before, myself, they don't really cause any problems
The error happens after the problematic scripts have pretty much done all they need to do
the fix is pretty easy though
junior phoenix
hmm, it could also be script ordering problem
thorn trout
wait, do you know why it's occuring Zombie?
prisma halo
I believe I found the cause a while back
but since it was a while back, I'd have to check again to make sure
but >TAFE
thorn trout
huh. I spent awhile trying to figure it out but gave up. That was also after a long day though so I might have just missed something obvious :P
prisma halo
I'd only need Assembly-UnityScript.dll from the alpha to check
since I do have ILSpy here
junior phoenix
well as i said, it could and couldnt be in the script itself, sometimes the problems are releated to some script executing prematurely, as a result of bad script ordering. therefore, not all variables could have been initialised, like per se you are trying to get pooled object before pool was initialized by other script
etc.
again, just plain assumption, if you are telling that code seems right
thorn trout
yeah I dunno
like I said it doesn't cause problems anywhere else, so it's not that high on my bigfix list right now
*bugfix
junior phoenix
yeah
btw, does FOV do that kind of stuff?
as you described earlier?
seems kinda interesting
thorn trout
which kind of stuff?
junior phoenix
so there might be a chance that it stuttered, and during the stutter the fov bugged out to go really high, which would cause the view to appear inverted
qouting one of your posts
thorn trout
yeah it fov is more than, erm, 180 I think, it inverts
prisma halo
okay so after some cleanup, this is the problematic function:
void setmat()
{
var renderer = GetComponent<Renderer>();
if (!buttonstate)
renderer.material.SetTexture("_MainTex", textures[0]);
else
renderer.material.SetTexture("_MainTex", textures[1]);
}
I assume the problem is quite clear
thorn trout
-_-
@prisma halo well... index 0 and index 1 both have textures assigned in the inspector. They shouldn't be null at any point.
prisma halo
There may be a point where the script runs when they aren't assigned
or an object the script is attached to without any textures there
a quick and dirty fix would probably be
thorn trout
well, setmat() is called every time a button is pressed, and there's never an error after the very start of the level
prisma halo
void setmat()
{
var mat = GetComponent<Renderer>().material;
if (!buttonstate && textures.Length > 0)
mat.SetTexture("_MainTex", textures[0]);
else if (buttonstate && textures.Length > 1)
mat.SetTexture("_MainTex", textures[1]);
}
kinda messy, could be done as (textures.Length < 2) return;
problem solved without nasty ifs
and skipping whole part
prisma halo
the problem there is that what if only one texture is missing?
thorn trout
yeah I'll give it a try.
junior phoenix
like that code segment
prisma halo
```CSharp
<code here>
```
thorn trout
I dunno, there's literally no situation I can think of where textures would not have the right number of textures.
prisma halo
somehow it must be occurring
junior phoenix
are you assigning textures to object dynamically
thorn trout
And the weirdest part is despite returning an error, it still sets the texture from the initial start call of setmat()
thorn trout
no, it's always through the inspector
so in other words it's returning an error but acting like there's no error
mild ginkgo
Manually assign them in Awake() then
prisma halo
now that Resources.Load is usable, that's totally doable
junior phoenix
ok so they are always there... that leaves us with only one possibility that it is attached to some dummy object
maybe by mistake
otherwise it really shouldnt do that
maybe you dragged the script onto something and forgot about it
thorn trout
the number of errors returned increases directly based on the number of buttons in the level
junior phoenix
hmm interesting
thorn trout
so it's not like there's some object out there I don't know about
yeah it makes no sense. That's why I haven't been able to figure out how to fix it. Especially since it does what it's supposed to despite the error.
junior phoenix
are you running latest version of unity?
thorn trout
nope
mild ginkgo
No.
thorn trout
and we're back to "blame Unity" :)
exotic ibex
:^)
junior phoenix
i try to have my soft up to date. it could be unity but still, we dont see whats going on on your screen so maybe there is something more to it really
that is just not apparent right away
but still, fail of unity is kinda possibility, they are releasing patches like every two weeks so
mild ginkgo
You can give resources. Load a shot, will likely fix the issue
distant sparrow
@thorn trout what made you do unity in the first place if it has a history of being problimatic?
thorn trout
because Dusk started as a hobby project and Unity is what I knew :P
jade root
why are these candles immune to water
mild ginkgo
There's just more people using it that are less skilled/beginners
junior phoenix
hmm one thing... it seems to fail at Start() isnt it somehow releated?
junior phoenix
arent you doing sth in Start() before calling setMat()
that could lead to that error?
mild ginkgo
That's why I said use Awake to assign the mats
prisma halo
start is just
void Start()
{
sav = GameObject.Find("SaveManager").GetComponent<SaveManagerScript>();
origcoors = transform.position;
setmat();
}```hmm so nothing useful
prisma halo
I'm pretty sure the errors appear when you actually click on the buttons though
not in Start
junior phoenix
well look at the log
thorn trout
@jade root yeah the candle prefab was created before the fire system. If I use them in the final game I might go back and change them to actually act like fire
prisma halo
yeah
thorn trout
@prisma halo no they appear in start
prisma halo
in the SDK I've generalized things like fire damage
it has "damage types"
and fire projectiles attach fire to the enemy themselves, rather than the enemy setting itself on fire
from there, the fire object damages the enemy until it disappears on its own
thorn trout
tl;dr Dusk SDK > Dusk
prisma halo
lmao
quiet rose
lmfao
junior phoenix
Dusk SDK?
thorn trout
Zombie's making a Dusk SDK
junior phoenix
interesting
id like to do sth too but dont know what so here i am, blabbing about random things telling myself im helping
junior phoenix
ok im not going to take it lol :D
jade root
His one job
mild ginkgo
Nah their editor will be in house eventually
thorn trout
that's the hope, yeah
jade root
Steev ur drunk go home
quiet rose
fuck you
jade root
wow rude
quiet rose
where dem catbois at
exotic ibex
catbois?
jade root
Wrong discord
quiet rose
right discord
jade root
WRONG DISCORD
subtle bane
I'm a bear, is that good enough?
jade root
THIS ISNT GAYSTUFF
quiet rose
bears 2 big 4 me
subtle bane
xD
jade root
💀 👍
thorn trout
da fuq happened I just stepped away for a second
exotic ibex
degeneracy
quiet rose
i acted gay
jade root
Steev thinks this is h-discord
quiet rose
No this is dusk discord
thorn trout
h-discord sounds interesting
quiet rose
oh no
exotic ibex
oh jesus
junior phoenix
and why make it inhouse, i think modding would do great with this type of game
thorn trout
lol, that's a good life motto
exotic ibex
i agree
quiet rose
if anime is illegal @graceful wing there would be no OSU
jade root
Avain you are illegal
quiet rose
r u sure about this
mild ginkgo
The modding sdk is for modding, that's the point dude
jade root
good songs
thorn trout
@junior phoenix Dusk has not been built around modding, so it will likely take some fiddling to ultimately make it fully moddable. That will probably happen after release, but Zombie's taken it on himself to a) start helping me figure out how to do that, and b) start developing an SDK
graceful wing
there actually are some pretty nice maps on there even tho they're rare
jade root
You telling me underaged girls squealing isn't a good song
graceful wing
nope
jade root
Oh nice
junior phoenix
seems reasonable
jade root
I've been on the demo level for 23 minutes
Slow speed run
uh
what is this rotating square in the floor?
thorn trout
health pack
thorn trout
where is that?
thorn trout
Dusk house = performance eater
jade root
UPSIDE DOWN DUPLICATION
yep it's has to do with low frames
WOAH
CAMERA CLIPPED THROUGH THE FLOOR
mild ginkgo
Didn't think it was possible to get low frames in dusk
Yeah camera clipping isn't too hard
Just need to jump in the right spots
thorn trout
welp
jade root
This is cool
thorn trout
yeah the whole weird framerate zoom thing is on my list
mild ginkgo
So are you doing your lerp in update instead of fixedupdate
thorn trout
probably yeah
jade root
Holy shit these stutter frames
junior phoenix
isnt fixedupdate for physics? i never used that func for anything releated to anything else lol
thorn trout
yeah I'll just switch it over to fixedupdate and see if that fixes it
mild ginkgo
It's for anything you want to run at 60hz
thorn trout
don't tell anyone, but I also use fixedupdate for character input :O
junior phoenix
well update happens every draw call if i know right
mild ginkgo
Correct
junior phoenix
and fixedupdate at fixed timestep, set at 0.02s
mild ginkgo
Yep
obtuse apex
how to code???
jade root
delete system 32
thorn trout
^^^
mild ginkgo
Generally people have their fixed at 60hz
graceful wing
delete anime
mild ginkgo
So it's very nice
junior phoenix
yeah well, i couldnt for mobile do that
obtuse apex
thx 4 tips
mild ginkgo
Because why do anything at a variable rates
junior phoenix
and didnt really played with fixedupdate in the first place soo funny :P
mild ginkgo
Don't be like a Japanese dev and tie logic to framerate
junior phoenix
i put it like this
mild ginkgo
So their games break at high and low framerates
thorn trout
when I saw that the PC port of RE4 actually ran slower at lower framerates, I loled
junior phoenix
my friend who got me into unity longlong ago in 3rd iteration told me to use FixedUpdates for physics releated stuff ang Update for gamelogic
jade root
you didnt lmao?
junior phoenix
so thats what ive been doing
thorn trout
Metro 2033 FOV is lmao territory
obtuse apex
what does it take to get a rofl
jade root
Last Light PC optimization is roflmao territory
mild ginkgo
You should tie logic to update often, it's just certain things, generally time sensitive ones, that should be fixed
Also physics absolutely needs to be fixed
So your friend was right
junior phoenix
yeah makes sense
obtuse apex
why it so hard 2 optimize 4 pc if gaems r made on pc????? Lol
mild ginkgo
But things like a zoom in, where he's changing the fov over time, based on framerate , can cause issues
jade root
Y SO HARD TO MAKE GAME IF COMPUTER DO EVERYTHING
thorn trout
@mild ginkgo WRONG. Physics only needs to be fixed if you want physics to NOT reflect clown logic and demon reason.
jade root
physics make as much snese as the black hole floors and see through doorframes
and that rotating square in the living room
mild ginkgo
Anyways I have full confidence in David, he's pretty fukken gr8
We don't need to do his job for him
thorn trout
👍
prisma halo
the zooming code:
void Update()
{
if (Input.GetButton("Zoom"))
{
int num = w.selectedweapon - 1;
if (num < 0) num = 0;
if (cam.fieldOfView > normalfov / w.zoomamount[num])
{
GameObject.Find("MainCamera").GetComponent<MyMouseLook>().lookSensitivity = normalsensitivity / w.zoomamount[num];
cam.fieldOfView = cam.fieldOfView() - Time.deltaTime * zoomspeed);
}
}
else
{
if (cam.fieldOfView < normalfov)
{
GameObject.Find("MainCamera").GetComponent<MyMouseLook>().lookSensitivity = normalsensitivity;
cam.fieldOfView = cam.fieldOfView + Time.deltaTime * zoomspeed;
}
if (cam.fieldOfView > normalfov)
cam.fieldOfView = normalfov;
}
}
it does look like it could bug out at some point
fair mirage
you can do better than that, man
thorn trout
yeah I was just looking at it, and it doesn't seem like it actually constrains the values in certain instances
fair mirage
bacon more like, baecon
thorn trout
which is dumb
fair mirage
... or something
obtuse apex
see the problem in the code
prisma halo
Mathf.Clamp is your friend
mild ginkgo
Yeah, time. Deltatime is frame dependent as well
thorn trout
lol
prisma halo
🔫
jade root
adambroseph is certainly a name
dawn granite
I think it's pretty neat to see that code and understand what it is
obtuse apex
hire me and ill fix it up for you
mild ginkgo
Code in bacon
prisma halo
clearly Dusk needs to be written in malbolge
fair mirage
shit i can't find it
graceful wing
dusk needs to be released on punch cards
dawn granite
DUSK COBOL MAINFRAME
prisma halo
"hello world" in malbolge:
(=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/4Rs+0No-&Jk)"Fh}|Bcy?`=*z]Kw%oG4UUS0/@-ejc(:'8dc
dawn granite
Dusk coded with python
obtuse apex
remake dusk in scratch
fair mirage
but it was basically a language that was like using verses from shakspeare's works
obtuse apex
itll run better
prisma halo
BrainFuck is Malbolge but saner
graceful wing
isn't brainfuck just a couple commands total or something?
prisma halo
yeah
fair mirage
oh i got it
the section that is linked to is what a hello world program would look like
junior phoenix
brainfuck is basically moving pointer around fixed memory and raising/lowering its value
if i remember correctly, lazy to open google
graceful wing
wut
fair mirage
WutFace
hollow ivyBOT
graceful wing
yup, 8 commands total
junior phoenix
ou i understand now :D i understood sth else :D
prisma halo
I wonder
~wiki David Szymanski
well apparently there's Dick Szymanski
Richard "Dick" Szymanski (born October 7, 1932) was a center who played fourteen seasons with the Baltimore Colts in the National Football League. Szymanski attended the University of Notre Dame and Libbey High School.
thorn trout
buh dum tish
prisma halo
🥁
narrow mica
What the fuck he went to college in my home town
jade root
"your dusk access has been revoked"
prisma halo
no wiki page for New Blood
jade root
here ill make one
graceful wing
it'll get deleted pretty quick tho
prisma halo
not if it's legitimate and has enough info
that snippet I posted above is the entirety of Dick Szymanski's article
junior phoenix
so the bot can do other stuff then !lang and !keyfaq that isnt blocked :P
graceful wing
the bot can do a lot more yea but it needed to be disabled due to people abusing the living shit out of it 😦
graceful wing
no help 4u
fair mirage
U U
U U
prisma halo
cleverbot?
quiet rose
mods told churbot we arent good enough for them
prisma halo
I have cleverbot enabled on Nadeko in my own private server but it only ever gets spoken to in like, one channel
which is also a channel you can only see if you're an admin, or are present in a specific voice channel
graceful wing
mhm
it'd be nice to use all of that extra stuff but this server is a bit too big for it
terse wind
anyone here like flaccid peener?? Not gay just curious
jade root
wat
terse wind
yes
graceful wing
chur is doing it's job as an automoderator so i'm happy 👍
prisma halo
chur is doing it's job
doing it's job
it's job
it's
🔫
jade root
with the #gaystuff chat
terse wind
isnt this the dusk discord
prisma halo
Dusk not Diks
terse wind
no im in the right place then
jade root
wrong question tho
terse wind
Jabronii you look like you might enjoy a nice peener
tawny kindle
what remarks
jade root
jackass
tawny kindle
ayyyyy lmaaaaoooooooooo
jade root
deleting you dumb shit
graceful wing
right time to stop this
tawny kindle
why you have to be mad
tawny kindle
lol, I'm so sorry everybody, I'll be cool
jade root
cause its edgy and not funny
but ill look the otherway cauee first impressions can be shit sometimes
terse wind
you two are cute together
jade root
never mind i hate this
prisma halo
💩 📮
tawny kindle
thanks me too
terse wind
i just want a key and ill be gone
tawny kindle
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
jade root
and shitposting wont earn you anything other than a ban
jade root
serious youve only been here a few days
prisma halo
I'm actually kinda surprised at how "open" access to Dusk is
terse wind
Jabronnii @WhySoSerious?#6092
prisma halo
I don't think I've seen this kinda thing before
jade root
pre-alpha
prisma halo
I made it myself and yes
jade root
that updates to full game upon release
prisma halo
it's an edit of a meme
tawny kindle
I am aware
junior phoenix
yeah i know it is into pre-alpha or wth but i thought like it goes of of that stage and its locked again no? like you still need to buy it
cause than it seems kinda odd to me, not that i dont like it :P
graceful wing
nah getting a dusk key from here is for the full thing
tawny kindle
Oh my
terse wind
the full thing eh
tawny kindle
im at half chub
terse wind
😋
jade root
@thorn trout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUSK_(videogame)
tawny kindle
luv it
graceful wing
you actually did it you absolute madman
thorn trout
looool
tawny kindle
jefequeso i luv uuu!!!!!
jade root
quit acting like a dumbass
tawny kindle
woah
jade root
that took a long time to spell woah
terse wind
UwU whats this
jade root
what were you gonna originally say
tawny kindle
oh
thorn trout
-silence-
prisma halo
what is with the sudden barrage of 💩 📮
fair mirage
This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article which plainly indicates that the subject was invented/coined/discovered by the article's creator or someone they know personally, and does not credibly indicate why its subject is important or significant.
nice dood
jade root
fine fine
ill pust some effort into it
wasnt planning on doing anything else tonight
graceful wing
yea you might be able to get that tag off if you write the thing properly and link to new blood etc
jade root
👍🏻
graceful wing
else that dank meme will be gone in a couple hours
thorn trout
Jabronii... is your Wikipedia name 'I dream of horses?'
jade root
guess I learn how to wikipedia tonight
no
Jabronii-chan
like everything else
why?
prisma halo
I dream of horses is the moderator that requested deletion afaik
thorn trout
oh ok
prisma halo
anyways, headin' out, seeya peeps
exotic ibex
rip
thorn trout
see ya
prisma halo
okay one last thing before I go
jade root
what would be some good music to edit too?
prisma halo
I showed a friend the DUSK wikipedia page
and he commented on David's name
amazing
he's so manly even his name has man in it
thorn trout
hahahahaha
mild ginkgo
lol
graceful wing
you're an english major right? if anyone here can get it done it's gonna be you :p
past scarab
Showed a group of friends in Mumble some DUSK videos today, now they're all buzzing
graceful wing
👍
past scarab
even my dad is interested, and I think the last video game he played was Quake 2
graceful wing
ye
jade root
cant joke
working on figuring out wikipedia
{{good article}} is in the source for skyrim
gg
graceful wing
good. article.
jade root
shit i need a png of the dusk logo
mild ginkgo
i think theres on in the dusk folder
jade root
found one on google images
mild ginkgo
yeah theres a bmp of it in the dusk folder just for reference
jade root
im just gonna steal a lot of the source formating from skyrim
mild ginkgo
didnt even know there was a press kit
junior phoenix
well there were on their site
mild ginkgo
thats some good sheet
jade root
wow this is a pain in the ass
fair mirage
probably
jade root
i can safely say their will be Mac and Linux support right?
Ill just say PC and call it a day
jade root
fuck off
mild ginkgo
unity mac support is awwwffuullll
mild ginkgo
it is.
junior phoenix
kinda funny then
as linux is more diverse than mac and is supported perfectly
at least i didnt have any problems
junior phoenix
yep
rolling release for the win
well you know what i meant
maan i should have sleep
knowing nothing will come during night here
well shit happens
fair mirage
isn't the core of mac os' linux-y tho?
junior phoenix
not linux, unix
fair mirage
oh right
junior phoenix
and yeah thats kinda why im suprised a little, as it is specific unix branch
prisma halo
Yeah, OS X is Unix
prisma halo
heavily modified Unix
fair mirage
yeah, i didn't know that either
junior phoenix
mostly every mobile system is unix based
i mean like in ebooks etc. nowadays
*linux
damn son
test fail incoming
mild ginkgo
itll get better when they officially support vulkan
junior phoenix
ou yeah im loooking forward to that
mild ginkgo
unity is very windowsy because it likes directX a whole bunch
prisma halo
although you can get Unity to use GL on windows
junior phoenix
well not really, opengl works good too
prisma halo
it'll also automatically fallback to GL if DX fails
mild ginkgo
vulkan support is coming
fair mirage
prolly does now
mild ginkgo
not yet
fair mirage
oh
mild ginkgo
but anyways, a lot of its native shader shit uses directx
prisma halo
game.exe -force-opengl
mild ginkgo
and the gl fallback is laughable
junior phoenix
it actually uses CG
prisma halo
Yeah
junior phoenix
and compiles it to what it needs
mild ginkgo
you arent wrong, but i implore you to do some tests, its night and day between using directx and gl fallback even with their standard shader introduced in 5
junior phoenix
hmm dunno honestly, could be
mild ginkgo
yes you can achieve what you want in GL, but its a lot of extra work
it is in no way "unified" the goal of Unity
junior phoenix
what i looked into regarding shaders was that when you decompile compiled code by unity it actually decompiles it as glsl
sry for grammar btw
it gets worse every passing hour lol
prisma halo
@mild ginkgo I guess you could say there's a lack of unity between the renderers
mild ginkgo
yeah
fair mirage
wew lad
junior phoenix
i never really played with this option but i know that you can specify rendering api in player settigs
cant you force specific api there?
prisma halo
no idea
mild ginkgo
also, while lazy to do so, if you use them, many of their internal image effects etc break under OSX
prisma halo
I only know of commandline args
mild ginkgo
yes you can
prisma halo
also
am I the only one that hates how Unity uses ExeName_Data for game folders by default when it still supports a folder simply named Data?
mild ginkgo
like for example, dusk probably uses their bloom solution, at least that what it looks like, and that does not work on OSX
or at least the older versions didnt, havent tried in a while
lol yeah my dusk uses Data because of your mod
junior phoenix
ive done all efects myself as the ones included are fairly general and thus poorly optimised
my version of bloom which ive done for one project was 5x faster than the one in unity
junior phoenix
the most compact one
could be
last time i done sth was in 4.x
dont knoe specific version
mild ginkgo
yeah that was ages ago
mild ginkgo
like 2 or 3
junior phoenix
i know it was fresh when i was doing game for gamejam
and it was like november 2015
so itsblike year and half
junior phoenix
hmm maybe there was something that i didnt liked than or i dunno
i remember working with 4.6 or what it was
at that specific time
dunno why rly
mild ginkgo
yeah that was the last version of 4
a lot of people still use 4
the biggest things in 5 were things like GI and their Standard Shader pipeline
a lot of updated tools
junior phoenix
yeah
UIs mainly
or at least it eas mostly bitchong about that
deprecated components
mild ginkgo
i dont think unity 4 had GI at all
junior phoenix
guiTexture etc. got replaced with Image etc.
jade root
alright I'm calling it a night on the wikipedia page
junior phoenix
so it had some gui elements
mild ginkgo
thats all minor shit, but yeah
jade root
made some decent progess
junior phoenix
what? are you still working on that dusk page?
prisma halo
it's removed currently
dusty blaze
Jabronii with the sick editing skills.
jade root
thiis might be my job in the future
junior phoenix
im doing it now
jade root
cant hurt to get early practice in
dusty blaze
Quickly editing wiki articles to cost mass hysteria?
dusty blaze
cause*