oh my god
#dusk-duskworld-dungeonsofdusk
jade root
Yep
jade root
Oh he got worse?
mild ginkgo
yeah
hollow wagon
Which side is he on
mild ginkgo
conservative leaning for sure
jade root
I unfollowed a lot of people recently, just because they were starting to fight about politics and I didn't want to ruin my respect for them
mild ginkgo
anyways, politics are against the rules here in general so im done with this convo, but yeah, i wish they wouldnt post, just keep to the reasons people follow you
mild ginkgo
i know
hollow wagon
It's about the idea of DISCUSSING politics
mild ginkgo
im just being careful
hollow wagon
Spare me Lain
mild ginkgo
i dont want to be banned for something silly
sinful crag
yeah jontron is a bit too on the "Doing cocaine" side of youtube videos
crystal vessel
What does that even mean
thorn trout
I think JonTron's hilarious :P
one of the few youtube comedians who actually understands timing
crystal vessel
Yeah
jade root
Woah
Landed in here
Crazy how nature do that
Also @thorn trout if you like jontron don't follow him on twitter
past linden
Tried "IDKFA" in Dusk, was not disappointed
prisma halo
I have all the cheats if you want 'em
past linden
Sure
past linden
Didn't try idspispopd, does that work?
prisma halo
nope
no noclip
idkfa - ammo, weapons, keys & health
nbwarpXX - warp to level where XX is a two-digit number
nbkeys - keys
nbshooters - all weapons
nbdeathless - 200 health
nbdeity - godmode (your health won't go below 100, you can still take damage if it's above 100)
nbmarathon - dual shotguns
nbredo - return to main menu
past linden
Does "nbwarpXX" work in the demo?
prisma halo
yes, these are demo cheats
you can only get to the demo level and endless mode though
past linden
Ahh
prisma halo
there are no other maps present in the files
prisma halo
while working on the modding SDK I've expanded the cheat code significantly, added all of the doom cheats
even idbeholdX
prisma halo
you type idbehold, you get a message displaying which keys will give you which powerups
then you type the appropriate key to get the powerup
past linden
What powerups are there?
prisma halo
"R": Radiation shielding suit.
"I": Partial invisibility.
"V": Invulnerability.
"A": Computer area map.
"L": Light amplification visor.
"S": Berserk.
past linden
Oh lol
prisma halo
it was just ported to test the versatility of the new cheat system code
since idbehold is a rather special case
it displays a message mid-cheat
past linden
Yea, that's why i was so intrested
Any idea where the name for "nbmarathon" came from?
past linden
He's answered a ton of my questions already today, i don't really wanna bother him.
But thanks for the list!
prisma halo
fair enough, and np
thorn trout
nbmarathon is for dual shotguns, which are a weapon in one of the marathon games (forget which one)
glossy gulch
I doubt really anyone did tbh, that's why it was so obscure and hard to find
hmmm
I wonder how the mod would look if you ran it in the correct version of half-life
glossy gulch
oooh, that's a good one
distant birch
*Resurrection
Yeah ๐ Right up there with Infiltration
INF was way ahead of its time
Very similar to Insurgency ๐
quiet rose
ayyy i remember Infiltration
mild ginkgo
ut 99 was good times
distant birch
I still play it ๐
mild ginkgo
skyrim still failed to have good jumping animations
im not convinced bethesda is capable of proper jumps
jade root
even tho charles martinet was in the game
jade root
thank
quiet rose
๐
hollow wagon
dont fuck with me
I meant elves I said dwarves because I hate elves so much that there's a dissonance when I try to mention them
hollow wagon
entering hour 3 of my discord lurk
past linden
So with the beta, are we allowed to post screenshots of the game or make videos on it?
vivid cape
yes
past linden
I didn't know if they had special permission or not
vivid cape
so it should be pretty obvious that they want you to share stuff
past linden
And why not make sure?
vivid cape
probably there were tweets also
past linden
I just wanted to not make an ass of myself, it took 2 seconds to ask.
vivid cape
idk man... you just don't think logically
there's no NDA to sign
that means you are free to do whatever you want
vivid cape
I'm not a dick
hollow wagon
He is a dick
vivid cape
I just tried to make you think logically
hollow wagon
I BLOCKED HIM
past linden
LMAO?
hollow wagon
COMFY IN HErE
vivid cape
sharing stuff about Dusk is encouraged
not banned
the game must perform good in the video game market
crystal vessel
lol
crystal vessel
All it took was saying "yes you can post stuff"
past linden
^
past linden
I asked a question, no need to tell me how i'm a dumbass for asking it, didn't wanna piss off the devs
Yea
vivid cape
if they didn't made you sign an NDA you are free to share stuff
past linden
That's not always true...
crystal vessel
God forbid a guy ask questions
past linden
^
past linden
Mmmk buddy
You've made your point
Remind me to not ask questions when you're online
jade root
No need for hostility every time you have a conversation
vivid cape
you are not my father afaik
jade root
I know
But I am a memeber of this discord, and I like it when people aren't hostile towards each other
Fuck
I spelled that memeber
Memes are taking over
hollow wagon
sudden raft
no
hollow wagon
~
thorn trout
workin on last minute changes for PAX south build
thorn trout
I don't expect Dave's going to post a key tonight since he's getting ready for pax tomorrow, but I guess you never know
hollow wagon
๐
radiant venture
Hahaha lfg, you seem like a party prince
distant birch
@hollow wagon we're all key lurking 
vague egret
Lurkers are scum
vague egret
Admitting the problem is the first step to recovery
distant birch
hollow wagon
My 12 hr lurk
Ended in jefe telling me there was no key yesterday
Is god telling me something
hollow wagon
They do
Daily mah frend
Ive mastered the lurk
Dave was just busy preparing for PAX
distant birch
You're a PAX
hollow wagon
How long have you been in the discord
distant birch
A week?
distant birch
not as long as some folks
jade root
im ancient
ye
its all downhill from here
just ride the wave into the dusk release
ez pz
hollow wagon
2018
jade root
2020
jade root
@thorn trout you at pax as well?
autumn compass
@thorn trout build when?
thorn trout
naw I'm not at pa
naw I'm not at pa
*pax
no idea when a new build will be. You'll have to ask Dave
hollow wagon
There's a running theory that you are like Norman Bates and you use the persona of "Dave" to commit murder and lead development of Dusk
thorn trout
could be. I wouldn't know.
distant birch
Ask Dave
autumn compass
or WOULD you
autumn compass
@thorn trout have you seen a movie called the witch?
autumn compass
is that were the black phillip enemy comes from?
hollow wagon
The reason my arguments escalate is that Im right most of the time
vague egret
Don't you nerds have work or school?
hollow wagon
And people resort to being mean
jade root
I was done with classes at 11am
hollow wagon
Of course not Lain Im a trust fund kid
jade root
now I cant stop listening to Go Tell Aunt Rhody from the RE7 soundtrack
thorn trout
@autumn compass yup!
autumn compass
thought so
sudden raft
resident evil 7 has gr8 music
vivid cape
wow! you nazi!
sudden raft
wow
distant birch
sudden raft
sudden raft
wow
jade root
eh
jade root
they wont do anything if the problem was resolved on its own
vivid cape
just delete those posts... seriously
distant birch
Here comes the thunder
sudden raft
k
graceful wing
yea you probably shouldn't use that image mate
sudden raft
ban hammer
sad
circle anime weeb
a hentai discord server accepts that
why cant we?
graceful wing
because we're not a hentai channel, also swap over to #bnnuy-and-the-jits . keep this place for dusk related stuff
sudden raft
good enough
fair mirage
lol is that second one quake3's sarge shopped onto the redneck guys lol
narrow mica
Yes
hollow wagon
zombie ive been lurking day 2
prisma halo
no
hollow wagon
is this god
prisma halo
you never give up
hollow wagon
telling me Im gay
prisma halo
you suffer until you get that key
chilly hound
prisma halo
Dave = El Oshcuro
David = jefequeso
David's the Dusk dev :p
crimson folio
@hollow wagon Dude, I've been here since day one and I got the dusk key only few weeks ago
crimson folio
K
crimson folio
got any more of that dusk news?
vague egret
twilit olive
crimson folio
lmao
slate edge
no news yet
jade root
^
eager verge
How do i get a dusk key
hexed roost
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
eager verge
I dont understand
eager verge
Huh
hexed roost
Just watch the chat and you'll get a chance at a key
eager verge
Hell no
hexed roost
Then good luck, lol
jade root
@eager verge is this the Ossie I know, or are you actually new?
eager verge
Same ol
jade root
Kek
jade root
Nice jape
eager verge
Im between that or panties game
All kids went to bed already. I can talk freely @ this hours
teal niche
I looked at the pics and
The PAX build seems to include the level we already had
- the levels from the trailer, probably updated
crystal vessel
The Episode 1 levels are not like the one from the build we currently have, but we do have the endless level as well as an additional one on a farm
And damn is it a nice farm
teal niche
I know, i meant the PAX build
From the screenshots they posted, im pretty sure it includes the trailer's church, the new Sheep map, the farm one and the Trailer factory.
thorn trout
PAX South build is all new levels.
3 sp levels and a new endless arena
well, not ALL new I guess. It still has the old endless arena
teal basalt
@teal niche Never thought I'd see you around here ๐
teal niche
I've been here for a long time
jade root
mat is a lad here
teal basalt
I see. I just got here recently.
hollow wagon
is pax over yet
past linden
I think it ends today
jade root
Then Dave will curse us with his presence and sneeze out more keys
past linden
/o/
hollow wagon
Yeah
Ive been lurking for too long
And my 2 most heavy lurk days turned out to be no key days
crimson folio
the struggle
crystal vessel
I had fun with this run
crystal vessel
Ready for the other endless level to kick my ass more lol
thorn trout
also there are difficulty settings now, including DUSKMARE, which is 1 hit death :O
crystal vessel
Oh god
never doing that lol
I'll probably just play on the one below that or whatever is the Ultra Violence equivalent
crystal vessel
I can see myself dying a lot on that difficulty to the scarecrows
They're the only one I mess up on dodging often
past linden
Try to keep your distance, the spread's so wide that if you step a little to the left or right you'll dodge it as long as there 10-15 meters away
crystal vessel
Yeah I survived as long as I did in that screenshot up there by doing that
And of course keeping a wall between me and them
I am learnding
prisma halo
you can easily dodge scarecrows by sliding
crystal vessel
Ah right I don't utilize sliding
acoustic oriole
I wonder if Endless will eventually be supported in coop. not a must, but could be cool. Gotta say its really great that the endless mode is included because sometimes you just wanna jump straight into the action and have enemies thrown up at you, which can be an awesome alternative when you're done with the campaign
strong tartan
IM READY TO TAKE ON DUSKMARE HEAD ON
distant birch
PAX is over today... right?
Has any of the new DUSK material been put on youtube or elsewhere to see? ๐
acoustic oriole
dying to know as well ๐ฎ
thorn trout
we'd like to have coop in endless as well as the campaign
acoustic oriole
that would be absolutely awesome! I'll still play it solo first ๐ I like to take my time and explore, whereas most of my buddies are a bunch of speedrunners >_>
thorn trout
probably lan support? I dunno, I don't want to promise anything since we haven't started work on the multiplayer yet
acoustic oriole
right on. I'm all about the singleplayer anyway ^^
slate edge
Dedicated server abilities?
distant birch
Understandable at this stage, but it's a cool idea
slate edge
Either way, singleplayer campaign is the most important, multiplayer can happen when the time is right, no need to rush.
distant birch
100% agree
thorn trout
yeah sp is the first priority
thorn trout
also on the list yeah
thorn trout
I'm using probuilder for the levels
I don't know what user levels would be like
likely either something probuilder based or just the ability to import Quake III levels or something similar
slate edge
For some reason after trying probuilder I still prefer valve hammer editor. I need those precise grid views. Only problem with hammer is it corrupted some of my maps during compile time.
The pain.
acoustic oriole
a quake full conversion for Dusk sounds a bit pointless, why not just play Quake? ๐
acoustic oriole
possibly
either way, I definitely wouldn't say no if someone was to make it ๐
distant birch
With user content it could happen ๐
radiant venture
if it's an easy enough way to create levels, I would do it
thorn trout
Dusk movement feels a lot different than Quake. It's faster and there's a ton more air control.
acoustic oriole
plus, there's the matter of 360 jumping ๐
radiant venture
I also noticed that it's also more like cpm than quake
mild ginkgo
Sort of, but not that close
thorn trout
cpm?
thorn trout
ahh gotcha
mild ginkgo
It was a q3 mod
slate edge
Dusk is pretty much everything an oldschool shooter should be.
radiant venture
^
acoustic oriole
I really loved the first Quake's vibe and theme, and was kinda disappointed when I moved on to Q2's campaign. Dusk seems to have that vibe which I liked and more, which is one of the reasons why I'm interested in it
radiant venture
Q2 is really different from Quake
acoustic oriole
can't say I liked the shift to Strogg, and while the music is awesome there, it was too much of a leap from NIN's work on Q1
mild ginkgo
Dusk preserves the good stuff
slate edge
both have good soundtracks
radiant venture
fun movementยจ
slate edge
I enjoyed it, not as good as quake 1, but it aint bad.
thorn trout
Yeah I don't think its bad. Combat is fun. The level design is really bland though, which puts me off
which is why I like patched Daikatana better :P
radiant venture
if you like constant buzzing in your ears
acoustic oriole
I didn't try Daikatana yet ๐ I'm afraid to, lol
slate edge
Daikatana is even rougher than stalker
mild ginkgo
Daikatana after patch is fine
thorn trout
Yeah it's really not that rough after 1.3 patch
ep1 has some flaws but otherwise it's pretty good
there are way more flawed FPS out there with way more fans--Kingpin and Redneck Rampage come to mind.
slate edge
Good concepts, definitely.
thorn trout
Daikatana is the sort of game that's let down by a few issues, which are mostly fixed in 1.3: NPC ai works just as well or better than other games of the time, they don't take damage, and you don't have to use the save gems. Which turns the game from a near unplayable mess into a very fun if sometimes flawed early FPS with a lot of great ideas.
Like I said, I can think of several well liked FPS from around the same period that are just as flawed or more flawed than patched Daikatana
distant birch
I'm glad you can be objective about it, a lot of people hear about the bad aspects and then it's all they can see
I bought Daikatana shortly after release just after everyone realised it was bad
then it was patched, but everyone was so hung up on it
thorn trout
yeah, plus it doesn't give the best first impression
thorn trout
so I think a lot of people play 15 minutes and give up
distant birch
I totally did
I did not understand the turrets
or the first boss
Harsh lesson for a newcomer
acoustic oriole
I heard a few people say it's not that bad, I'll definitely give it a shot
acoustic oriole
Steam does too, I believe
distant birch
Don't do steam
acoustic oriole
or is the Steam version lacking like with Quake?
distant birch
they don't ever try to patch for compatibility
ever
If you're going to buy an old game, do GOG because they try to make sure everything works on latest windows
and if it doesn't work on your OS they refund you
Steam does something similar now but they don't do it as easily
(in my experience)
acoustic oriole
yep, I'm aware. ๐ I have more games than I can play XD I usually use PCGamingWiki as research to see which version is worth my time
I don't mind getting it on Steam and having to do some (only minor) tweaking
distant birch
yeah me too
acoustic oriole
what I buy from GOG most of the time are their exclusive oldies
like the very recent SWAT 4, god, I waited for that game to be available digitally like forever
distant birch
In my experience buying a lot of retro games, I have found that when steam and GOG have the same game I always prefer GOGs comp patches to Steams, but it's just how it's worked out for me.I have harware problems other folks don't necessarily have because I end up on a laptop alot
acoustic oriole
I hope they'll eventually get their hands on Blood. I never played it, and it looks like a game I'd enjoy. But it's a nightmare to get it running with widescreen etc
distant birch
Blood is on GOG
acoustic oriole
it is? O_o
jade root
FortySeven
acoustic oriole
yikes ๐ gonna check it out
crimson folio
Whoops wrong channel
crimson folio
Sorry about that
thorn trout
Blood is on GOG, but it runs through DosBox :(
distant birch
True
mild ginkgo
I offered to buy the blood IP for 13.50 but I didn't get a response :(
jade root
BloodCM is your best bet
And I think the guy behind Blood CM is working on a true Blood Source port or something
acoustic oriole
it's Atari that owns the rights to Blood, right?
acoustic oriole
too bad they're not re-releasing it, Duke Nukem 3D style
(ignoring Gearbox's D3D release)
jade root
I'm so happy I managed to get GZDoom to look like the original Doom, software rending and super low resolution
cold cypress
playing with just a keyboard Yajirobe?
jade root
Why wouldn't I be
Only way to play while on software render
But since it's GZDoom I got some enhancement wads while I play through BTSX
jade root
No gobshite recommendations
slate edge
eager ruin
when will the pax levels be added
jade root
Depends if it's SHIT or not
slate edge
Why tho?
eager ruin
Im pretty sure there would be legal issues
jade root
No references
DUSK is its own thing
You get the references in terms of gameplay though
acoustic oriole
UT's got a futuristic sci-fi thing. I love that game (and Unreal) but it just wouldn't fit in DUSK
jade root
Like eating random food items and rocket jumping
slate edge
heh
mild ginkgo
Ive got a UTI in my translocator
jade root
Let's go deeper
But in #bnnuy-and-the-jits so grandpa lain don't stomp in here and be like NYEH THIS IS DUSK CHAT
quiet rose
already has some doom references
crystal vessel
There's even a reference in the level design for one of the levels
worn nest
hi, is it done yet?
hollow wagon
what did he do
jade root
nothing
hollow wagon
where my keys
past linden
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
hollow wagon
Ive been here forever I obviously know the key rules
Dave was here and implied he'd drop a key thats why I asked
vivid cape
it's trash
acoustic oriole
you shouldn't try to use a key that isn't given by Dave :P
vivid cape
you need to mention game
because most likely you need to redeem in-game
and not via the client
so good luck
ok
it's an ingame key
just like I said
and their servers look if the code has been used or not
slate edge
Newd Duks bildu wehn?
vivid cape
nobody knows
ruby pewter
2017
vague egret
When it's done
ruby pewter
aka 2017
vague egret
Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe
slate edge
@vague egret Valvetime you mean?
vague egret
Ye
distant birch
Hi
I'm here to speak with you about our lord and savior , 
have you got a few minutes to speak about with me?
Or perhaps you'd rather apeak about 
*speak
slate edge
Dusk needs more bushes and hedges
distant birch
for sure
the sprite kind that follows your every move
the kind you can never see the back of
royal temple
What type of server the game gonna support , can I make a dedicate server or host a P2P server , is there gonna be local Lan support ?
How many multiplay gamemodes the game have ?(Deathmatch , CTF, capture ,...) ?
Can you guy support Coop for existing singleplay map or survival mode ?
thx you and sry because my english suck.
royal temple
i mean coop
distant birch
it's a solid "if they have time" right now
slate edge
MP is far into the future.
distant birch
Indeed
slate edge
Hold yer horses.
royal temple
I am not really expect that much but it is gonna be cool if they can support it
slate edge
It might happen, it might not. The dev is focusing is on singleplayer.
royal temple
i hope they support modding too
slate edge
Its being looked into, but there are no promises.
royal temple
the game look awesome thou
prisma swift
So uh, I want that PAX South build like NAO
vague egret
done when its done
vernal kiln
is there an approximate release date for this game?
jade root
before the universe ends
vague egret
between now and the heat death of the universe
vernal kiln
๐
prisma swift
I'm loving the endless mode
crystal vessel
It's very fun
past linden
I prefer the campaign mode, so far i've got my time down to 26 seconds.
distant birch
I need to see a video of this
past linden
Don't have a video but i can give you a screenshot of my time
past linden
There'd be no point since there are people with better times
And just checked the screenshot, it was 27 seconds not 26 :/
And here's someone's 25 second run that i used to learn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkrfcD_bxKM I use the gas can instead of the block though since i can't get the block to work
mild ginkgo
glitched runs zz
jade root
fake runs
past linden
Not sure why being glitched makes it fake
prisma halo
Bread Knight's in this very server y'know :p
past linden
Oh shit, didn't even look at who made it
prisma halo
@strong tartan
past linden
Nice run, didn't know that you could skip the boss till i watched your video!
mild ginkgo
what is the current glitched record?
past linden
No idea, the guy who posted it deleted the video
I think it was 24 seconds though
I can't imagine it being any faster then that, the only part that you can make leaner is the part where you go over the level and i think if you do it perfectly the gas can can be a second quicker.
mild ginkgo
and faster bunnyhopping
you can make it to ladder in 6 seconds
if you arent doing that
you can improve
prisma halo
I almost had an 18-second run
but I missed the ending room
and RIP you got b8ed
@past linden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAciTXEUMc4
hollow wagon
i wonder if he will ever post another key
vague egret
he likely will soon. keep in mind dave goes to all the big events. more often than not, he is busy somewhere
mild ginkgo
i could never reliably clear the treeline with the gas can
hollow wagon
Eventually it's going to boil down to me going to dave's house and doing him some favors
i live like 30 minutes from the guy
I can be his bootycall
vague egret
go wash his car or something. you might get a key from that
mild ginkgo
meh, i got the 22
if i knew how to clear the treeline with the gas can, i could probably get the 18 or 19
past linden
Lining up the can takes me a while, i feel like now that i know you can clear the ladder in 6 i can get to 18, i'm also not great at doing the skip at the beginning, any tips?
thorn trout
@mild ginkgo have you tried jumping and doing the gascan jump on the treeline rather than the ground? In the alpha version explosions only boost you upward, so long as it's under the player's feet. Dunno if it would gain you enough height, but it might gain a bit. In the full release explosions can push you in any direction tho.
mild ginkgo
ohhh, good point
wanton magnet
past linden
Not yet
prisma halo
@mild ginkgo since you have the game I wanna test something
if you put this in the alpha's folder and run it, does it successfully bypass the config screen?
mild ginkgo
2 secs
prisma halo
(back up Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha_Data/globalgamemanagers first)
mild ginkgo
so it DOES launch, but main menu is now a bright pink screen
let me try windowed mode, diff gfx configs
everything else does function though
audio, gameplay, etc
and funnily the UI layer still works
hm
prisma halo
weird
mild ginkgo
yeah it is
prisma halo
the weird part is that doesn't happen to me
mild ginkgo
yeah im trying some stuff to see if i can root cause it
prisma halo
hold CTRL as soon as you open the game, that should bring up the cfg window again
mild ginkgo
the cfg window works fine
on every launch
its just when it gets past Made With Unity
prisma halo
that's even weirder
it only changes a single flag in globalgamemanagers to hide the cfg window
okay uhh
rename Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha_Data to Data
mild ginkgo
will do
prisma halo
then rename Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha.exe to Dusk.exe, and make a copy of it with the original name so you can still launch via Steam
mild ginkgo
oh wait
you wanted me to launch it from steam
i was launching the exe directly
ok ok
we're getting somewhere
prisma halo
nah that wouldn't make a difference
mild ginkgo
it did
prisma halo
it... did?
mild ginkgo
now, i havent renamed anything
which is interesting given it IS there
and i havent renamed the folder
prisma halo
is the folder named Data?
mild ginkgo
ah ok, i didnt have a global gamemanager in the folder
mild ginkgo
launch from steam or your exe?
prisma halo
exe
mild ginkgo
kk
prisma halo
mine makes changes to globalgamemanagers and launches the game
mild ginkgo
it does modify globalgamemanagers
prisma halo
if you wanna launch via steam, you can name my exe Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha.exe so Steam will run that instead
mild ginkgo
gonna try this new one rq
prisma halo
the original exe has to be called Dusk.exe though
strong tartan
Awh shit you pinged me in the middle of the nite
mild ginkgo
ok, so with the new exe, data folder should be renamed Data
and you want your exe to be called? and the original to be called?
prisma halo
basically:
Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha_Data -> Data
Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha.exe -> Dusk.exe
DuskSDK.Launcher.exe -> Dusk Pre Pre Pre Alpha.exe
mild ginkgo
perfect, 2 secs
prisma halo
note this isn't the actual SDK launcher, I'm just too lazy to rename it after compiling lmao
also try adding -force-opengl to your Steam command-line arguments
that may fix the purple
if not, try -force-d3d11 or -force-d3d9
mild ginkgo
is it supposed to be skipping the Config window?
prisma halo
yes
mild ginkgo
because it isnt
prisma halo
that should be the only change
mild ginkgo
the pink screen happens after the cfg window
which under no circumstance has been skipped yet
prisma halo
huh
mild ginkgo
the modification to gamemanager does happen though
prisma halo
can you send me your globalgamemanagers file?
prisma halo
the launcher just changes byte 1080 to 0 (or 2 in the older one I sent)
mild ginkgo
bizzare
prisma halo
but yeah when I run it, it skips the config window entirely and moves on
try this one
mild ginkgo
same issue
prisma halo
still no cfg screen skip?
mild ginkgo
did my gamemanagers value get changed?
none to speak of
goes directly to it when launching the exe
prisma halo
send the very latest globalgamemanagers and I'll check
prisma halo
that looks correct
mild ginkgo
ive been restoring the gamemanager to the original between these
prisma halo
I can make the program restore the original after you close Dusk, but then I can't check if it has changed or not
deft salmon
this is david everyday
mild ginkgo
did the one i sent you have the changed value?
prisma halo
doesn't appear to have changed
mild ginkgo
really
prisma halo
byte 0x1080 is still 1
mild ginkgo
because the timestamp on the modification date updates
prisma halo
instead of 0 or 2
prisma halo
does running my exe as admin make any difference whatsoever?
mild ginkgo
let me give that a shot
CFG window still there, pink still there
im just confused as to why it says the file is updated
if there has been no diff
i think its time for one of these
prisma halo
hmm
replace your globalgamemanagers with this
and run the game normally
without my exe
mild ginkgo
kk
prisma halo
(you'll have to rename it though, because thanks discordโข)
prisma halo
I manually switched the byte with a hex editor
strange, since the exe works fine on my end
this means two things
- The exe isn't changing the file on your end
- It likely isn't receiving permission to
mild ginkgo
we need at least one other person to test this
i made windows ignore it
it got triggered at your exe having no cert etc etc
prisma halo
heh
mild ginkgo
weirdly enough
your exe IS doing something
because after launching your exe, it updates the new gamemangers and causes the pink screen issue
but it also skips cfg
so its changing a value somewhere
just not the one you want
prisma halo
I mean, the entire source code of the file is just https://gist.github.com/DaZombieKiller/7ca55c811d8b2ef5dc28c5cf3b809dfd
mild ginkgo
yeah so im curious about all the others now
prisma halo
as you can see from the comments in my source:
// byte 0x1080:
// 0x00: no splash screen
// 0x01: splash screen
// 0x02: no splash screen, hold ctrl to show anyway```because there has to be a reason behind this pink
prisma halo
Yeah
mild ginkgo
somewhere something is changed
there you go
top one is the original
bottom is what your exe changed
it changed it to 02
which is exactly what you specified
thoughts @prisma halo ?
prisma halo
that is very weird
mild ginkgo
im not sure why 0430 is the victim
mild ginkgo
yeah im gonna check if this is repro, or just random
prisma halo
back
mild ginkgo
it is consistent
for whatever reason it decided 0430 is actually what you wanted
and not 1080
prisma halo
hmm, I'll try something else, sec
mild ginkgo
vbindiff is great! now i have a good little windows cmp
prisma halo
mild ginkgo
nailed it!
prisma halo
:D
mild ginkgo
what the fuck was it?
mild ginkgo
fair enough
prisma halo
// byte 0x1080:
// 0x00: no splash screen
// 0x01: splash screen
// 0x02: no splash screen, hold ctrl to show anyway
using (var bw = new BinaryWriter(File.Open("Data/globalgamemanagers", FileMode.Open)))
{
bw.BaseStream.Position = 0x1080;
bw.Write((byte)0x02);
}```yeah ok
that works too, im curious why the previous method didnt though
it seemed sound
prisma halo
Yeah
mild ginkgo
somehow ending at the wrong address
prisma halo
strange
mild ginkgo
man that is frustrating
im still trying to figure out why that was fucking up
๐ค
the ONLY way that could go wrong is like, if your type casting was fucked in some way
but its not
prisma halo
I'm just testing internal functions atm
prisma halo
i_am_defined_in_csharp:
int PrintHealth(Sq.VM vm)
{
int health;
vm.PushString("health", -1);
vm.Get(-2);
vm.GetInteger(-1, out health);
Console.WriteLine($"health is {health}");
return 0;
}```lol
mild ginkgo
ok so i tried your exact method on a dummy file
and it writes to the correct location
so i have no idea
perhaps a bad marker somehow on the file, idfk
prisma halo
weird
mild ginkgo
exactly the same as yours
somehow the stream is just wrong
gonna tear my fingers off
i have no idea
mine was just var data = File.ReadAllBytes("C:/Test/file.one"); data[0x1080] = 0x02; File.WriteAllBytes("C:/Test/file.one", data);
and it worked fine
hollow wagon
good morning
mild ginkgo
LURKERS, and non lurkers
hollow wagon
Zombie is the lurker to your non lurker
mild ginkgo
i think i want to die from this
im sure you can see the above
and how it makes no sense
the problem is already solved
but the mystery remains
mild ginkgo
the new way is simply...better anyways
writing the one byte instead of writing the entire file over
but that still doesnt explain why it didnt work
whaaaaatever, dave doesnt pay us enough to solve the mysteries of the universe
mild ginkgo
๐
prisma halo
So I just wrote some code to search for internal methods in classes, so that I don't need to manually register them
but man, if I hadn't commented it vigorously it would've driven me insane
jade root
Do you ever just look at lines of code and get a stiffy?
prisma halo
when it works, yes
thorn trout
I need to do some tests to make sure the new version can actually find dusk.ini if the data folder is just named "Data"
quiet rose
hollow wagon
good morning dusk chat
autumn compass
@gleaming berry dusk build when?
vivid cape
one day
quiet rose
thin snow
hay
does they still do stuff like key drops or so? I want the game ๐ฆ But its not on steam for now...
quiet rose
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.
thin snow
Ohh im sry i just wanted to know if there is a way to get acces to this game.... but ok my foult
quiet rose
Dont worry. You are fine. 
thin snow
I hope ๐ฆ
radiant venture
I think most people asked the exact same question as you
thin snow
Now i know it better ๐ thx
radiant venture
๐
radiant venture
lol
thin snow
wooot
radiant venture
๐ ๐
jade root
at least you have a discord icon
vague egret
thin snow
Do i have to download the app for voice? My mic does not show up :/
jade root
you on mobile or pc?
thin snow
PC
jade root
you should be able to just join it
radiant venture
get the discord app anyway
thin snow
ohhh.. ok
radiant venture
because discord is pretty based
radiant venture
but there are plebs who PLAY GAMES
thin snow
then i dont have to talk with myself ๐
crimson folio
You?
radiant venture
you're a plonker
jade root
^sure that
jade root
nah next up is Terminal (Dead) Jabronii
thin snow
Can i ask for a strange question? No its not about this game...
jade root
depends
hollow wagon
take it to general
jade root
if your a furry, no one wants to see your "art"
hollow wagon
*you're
thin snow
Do some one know where i can get the NTSC-Version of Kill-Thrill ?
hollow wagon
*yer
thin snow
like buy somewhere?
jade root
wew english aint your first langauge is it?
thin snow
no its not
jade root
prolly better off asking in #bnnuy-and-the-jits
thin snow
i will
hexed roost
oh god, thrill-kill? are you looking for the PS1 version?
strong tartan
who is this
thin snow
YES
hexed roost
yeah let's take this to general lol
thin snow
yes the ps1
radiant venture
!keyfaq
hollow ivyBOT
"I want a key to (insert game here). How can I get one?"
Keys are currently being posted at random intervals (usually about once a day) with whoever being able to redeem the key the fastest getting access. This is the only way to currently get access to the pre alphas and other free stuff. Key beggers will be ignored so dont bother asking.