#gambling-meme economy
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Stoch rsi is ok
I really just like ping noises
Yeah but it’s like so obvious it’s worthless I guess
For judging if smth is oversold
Idk bro I think it’s way more useful (for the high volume small caps I’m trading) to just only take a trade when it’s extreme and bucking the general trend (ergo market manip)
Yeah and they’re often wrong about consolidation and shit too
To me it’s more intuitive to just think of the chart as a big train
Maybe a big car idk
You got various forces pulling it around but it’ll stabilize naturally
Just looking at it go to the right helps me see this
I don’t think it’s something I can ever put into words and explain as well as watching a tick chart for 3 hours would
Crypto especially is all momentum
kinda same, I just thought of it as gravity & space. derivatives can also distort the space making it more dense or sparse where the same amount of force just makes the point move more or less
Was this pretty much what we’ve discussed already
Even at 2x speed this guy is still a bit slow
Watching tariff market response
If Trump fails again we will try to buy cheapies
If Trump wins market is nuked for couple months methinks
picked up 5 spot eth on this red candle
Nobel Prize-winning economist Eugene Fama argues that Bitcoin is fundamentally flawed and predicts it has a near-certain chance of becoming worthless within a decade. In a conversation with Luigi Zingales and Bethany McLean, Fama explains why Bitcoin’s extreme volatility, lack of intrinsic value, and violation of basic monetary principles make i...
shame. I didn't listen to it yet, was thinking of starting when I prepare going to bed
Just thinking about how Trump and affiliates strangely created a ton of tariff smokescreen, bought their biggest buys in history around bottom, then started selling for a 20% gain or so on the day
Gamblers man… makes trading meme coins less fun

Equally dumb point
I think this interviewer / journalist probably misquoted him and did him dirty because this shit is dumb as hell
Read about half
Yeah I retract my previous comments that were rude to him
At least unless I read other work of his
It's click bait on click bait
Why would economists need to completely rethink money and markets if bitcoin didn’t bust?
Yes, obviously, I’m saying I don’t think it’s actually that inconsistent and he’s failing to understand what it is because he’s against the tech
Someone who hates almost all technology isn’t plagued by the mindvirus that: crypto is a bad meme, but stocks are totally real and capitalist valuation is good and logical
I don’t think intrinsic value makes any sense really except as a technically incorrect shorthand in discussion about mechanical price imbalances
If it’s: “bitcoin is not great as a currency” i think “no shit”
Also on practical trading - thinking about putting 10k into silver because it looks undervalued
This to me is still memetic value but I guess with materials specifically it makes more sense in some way
lol I guess I have a metaphysical disagreement with economists
I’m still playing around with this idea a lot and have to make a lot of guesses about it
I want to make an extreme trade so soon
I want to make 5 bands in 5 mins
I will do this
I’m kinda done with shitcoining at this point
I’ve been out of the game a while and eth is dead
Sol is only option really
Yeah I lost some from portfolio ath but still sitting around 40-45k from 1.5k initial
I’m mostly stabled up. I have about 30k or so in USDC
I still like to trade majors
Like ethereum and solana
Just not memes on the chain
Onchain has kinda died off
I just checked. I have:
3-3.5k in random shitty meme coins
11-12 in majors
29-30 in stables
Luck has no part in it!
Pure science
Market overreaction to bearish cpi
I would kill to be at my laptop at home rn
I’d open a small short on one account right now with low leverage liq point on btc 96.2 price target 93 entry 94.9
95-96 is fair pricing for btc atm morons puking
Market makers might scam wick though
Hm
98.2 might be a lot safer
Well fuck it yolo
It’s a paper trade of course but I’m taking it about as seriously as a real position
Back at entry right now but yo estoy is just doubly down on the fake position here
Market open pa should be more bearish given cpi
This wick upwards is a scam to clear out some risky shorts
No shot it lasts above 95.2
The collat in this imaginary account is 2k
Holy fuck was I wrong

The last opportunity for my thesis to be validated is 95.5 wick then nuke back down after clearing out shorts
Welp, there’s 95.6, gg
I’d probably close this position on the bounce down to 95.4 so -500 plus trading fees
Actually with the liq points I set I think I’d only be down 300 or so
2k account starting would be 1700 and I’d be feeling extreme pain
This shit feels overbought though
Man I always lose when I chart stare after opening a position
Thinking about how utility isn’t real
Thinking also about how you could patronize a gang of ruffians to destroy abandoned-but-not-uninhabitable properties to reduce the price of the homes
Libra guy admitted today that he is on team for Melania coin and portnoy coin so probably Trump too
i would take that info to the grave if it were me
but ig in crypto world there's some peverse admiration for a successful scammer
After that he said “tons of people are trying to kill me”
Instant smoke screen if Trump had him killed or whatever
yeah obviously lmaoo
I mean everyone would say “he had 100m in his possession”
He’s trying to justify himself
Saying he’s gonna do buy backs or something and shit
He probably won’t hes just saying it so coffee will sympathize
i was looking for our bespoke tpm advice animal for this situation and ironically half of them were about crypto
I hate crypto
I can’t wait to quit
so tired of this choppy btc bullshit
looking to open a long on sol if it mystery dips down to 165-170
I feel we're too early in the run still but I'm also looking to exit all positions between march and start of june
I'll be travelling for a week or two at the end of june as well and won't want to trade
btc ranging 92-98k is really annoying as well because it feels like there's no real direction
I can't tell the momentum of the market even on intra day moves
95-97k has been the fair price of bitcoin for like 2 weeks now though
the classic crab
I think it'll dip to 50k again, stay there for a bit, then back to ~100, and pump to 130-150k in 2 years
but I'm just repeating what has happened already and will not invest based on this guess
70-80% retrace imcoming …
But first a pump
That rabby shit is probably 27500 after slippage and fees and other things
So we’re looking at ~40k here after a week of compulsive spending
41600
Plus I have 4 NFTs going for about .7 eth a pop right now = 2.8 there if I sold slowly
7560 there
So yeah about 40-50k still
Depends how you do the math
Sometimes I just wanna sell it all and make one crazy trade and walk away if I lose it all
Then I remember this is my fine perfume and dom perignon fund
YEAH UHHH GIVE ME $500 WORTH OF CHUDJACK
When I still visited /biz/ I bought like 3 dollars of ||pregnantbutt||
Insane times
I had 4 bands in that coin at one point
My thesis was previously that it had outsized mindshare / awareness given the low marketcap
Damn pbutt did good again a few months back
Some of the biz guys I know were running it
Lmfao that's hilarious
chud should be doing better
like
look at the impressions for the average tweet on twitter
a large part of my thesis is that gremlin (who has no crypto knowledge) and musculus (who hates crypto) will post memes that were ultimately created by the chud twitter account's art team
that twitter account publically has the ca and telegram for the chud coin I'm holding there in its bio
I don't understand why this isn't worth 100m-500m honestly given all of these different factors
I’m disgusted by the events that transpired over the past days surrounding $LIBRA. The people behind this project made substantial personal gains at the expense of many users, the ecosystem, and even an entire country.
I hope the people responsible get what they deserve.
I’m
interesting stuff
Insane to me how safe Trump was as a coin
You could’ve bought in the first 24 hours and sold at a profit in the next 8-16
Obviously more entries than that too if you actively traded… just fuckin crazy
Looking to make a huge trade on btc today
I loaded up 20% of my port into an account
Waiting to actively trade a knife catch on btc bottom candle
Think this reversal is a fake out and we see 92.9-92.8
2:27 est means there still two hours left for serious PA
Waiting on that crazy 2% pa candle to cascade longs then buy the bottom
My ego needs this
My coffers need this
Solana triple bottom
We r gonna catch de knife or we r not gonna trade
I mean opening a margin long at 93.8 — there’s simply not enough upside to warrant the risk
Psychological need: 92.8 btc
We are back in cringe chop city though
if I had just made the fuckin trade
at 93.4
well I'd only be up like 600 bucks
I'm never sure if anyone enjoys me live posting btc PA but I find it fun
I didn't realize this was connor omalley until just now
I feel like a retired boxer seeing a present boxer get beaten to death
it's from Joe Pera Talks With You
I love it
I don't have a position open rn
I'm just watching the chart looking for entry
feels like we've had so much pa today
connor omalley and joe pera have been working together for a real long time
yeah, it's beautiful
conner omalley was even in The Characters in 2016, with Tim Robinson
no clue about that
The Pointer Brothers are a three-man corporate entertainment group hired to entertain? Not only do the three not cover Pointer Sisters songs, their act merely consists of well, pointing enthusiastically.
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I don’t much care for the I think you should leave guy
That show is overhyped as fuck
Hayden Davis (Kelsier) is one of the big four creators of $LIBRA along with Julian Peh (Kip Protocol), Mauricio Novelli (Tech Forum Argentina) and Manuel Godoy (Tech Forum Argentina). It was endorsed by Javier Milei on February 14th, 2025.
I interviewed Hayden trying to figure out what happened. In the process he admitted to the LIBRA team sn...
dude literally lays out the game
ridiculous stuff
"Dave Portnoy stole all my money boo hoo"
Well was there any indication that crime was afoot?
"N-no"
What was the name of the coin?
"Jailstool"
He did it on a second coin called greed
Alright bros let’s get this bread
I watched btc hit pico daily bottom yesterday and didn’t open the margin trade i had my finger on
I hate midrange bullshit
Thinking about “parasocial relationships” from audience at creator being lindy a la establishing slave class via worship thru lifeblood “money” … often in religious studies it’s said “religion in the modern west is just, like, different, man. Elsewhere and elsewhen it’s incorporated into every aspect of life” … “meme coins as ultimate / perfect consumerism, consumerism as religion, nothing has ever changed except the particulars” is the thesis essentially dressed up and shat out
Just ordered
I hate how pretentious most traders are… they take trading so seriously
They’re all dumb as shit too
Holy fuck they’re so dumb
Maybe it’s just rationalists I’m railing against still
Man I hate chudkowski
I’ve met 1 or 2 smart people in crypto
Actually probably 5
And a couple of good artists
But trad fi guys are substantially worse and more boring than them
Crypto seems to breed more well-roundedness than trad fi due to the ways you make money in crypto
Ie networking, making art, coding shit
They assume the market is a divination tool for the entire scope of human knowledge and an interpreter of all current events
I guess that’s why I dislike it so much. Rigidity of descriptive model & directly linked prescriptive model (at least unconsciously)
But then again
A certain authentic confidence in the system is required to excel at the system in most cases
At least if you’re a market participant
That Keynesian beauty contest — I was thinking about it a bit more
I don’t fully agree with the sophistic model
It struck me immediately but I haven’t had a reason to bring it up
Authentic belief in the market, hedged bets or small bets, I think you can beat market makers
I don’t know if we are talking about the same point
But yeah I agree with what you’re syaing
Was it you who shared the Keynesian beauty contest
Yes
Well idk what the psychic benefit would be
Really simple idea. basic game theory. You have to predict what other people will want, some people go by what they want, sophisticated strategy entails figuring out proxies for what other people like generally and going off that
I think the sophistic strategy misses wholistic chunks and can lose a lot as a result
This was 2 or 3 days ago
Anyways this illustrates a few points one can use to muse about trader psychology and projected returns
One thing I’ve noticed is that true believers can often do much better than people trying to win
Yeah I kinda lost the plot I’m gonna go back thru
Ahh
Here
I was just saying they’re annoying people
If btc could not go to 0 i would appreciate it
Gonna short bitcoin if we see 103-104 today
Saylor might wanna close above 100
Either way 103-104 is overbought even if trend reversal
Last time it cracked 100 it nuked back down. It was also on a Friday, but the general trend was bearish then
Framing this as a ridiculously successful arb trade
Excellent conversion of money into raw power in multiple ways too
Insofar as money is a proxy for power you’ve got to pay a price to “liquidate it” so there’s crazy conversion from that perspective
Very good price
I guess it’s all the same perspective
It’s just that Trump got paid less than his power is worth
I would've thought it would be more expensive to be US president
like at least a few bil
yerp
I had originally framed that message I edited as “I can’t believe he only had to give Trump 9 figs to become us president” but edited because my rationalist friend who loves musk would’ve said something pedantic and annoying
Looking more and more like I’m not gonna get that dank short I wanted
I thought Saylor would wanna close above 100k
And then he’d clear some shorts and stop price defending from there
just got a couple clean shorts from eth
chronologically it goes bottom to top
Just a couple 3 figs not huge
Anyways it happened because of a hack
I could’ve played these trades much better
closed long on hype
anotha one
just some cute lil trades today
feels fun to speculate on price action!
there was a hack on bybit for 1.5b
but also what's the utility? it's simply worse than the alternatives and only has value because of the L2s built on it like base and arbitrum and hyperliquid
it's great for building and coding shit but the contemporary zeitgeist believes that utility doesn't exist in crypto because there's no real world use case for anything
yeah
pipedream (?)
feels like it got too bloated, with not enough real, practical uses
I don't think I've ever read someone, non-cryptobrained, say "you need to send money long distance? use eth!"
whenever eth has had any relevance, fees go up the wazoo
this is honestly possible on base
a transfer on base (coinbase's l2 off of eth) costs like 1 cent maximum
yeah l2s are awesome
I used to use litecoin as my transfer currency
before L2s were commonplace
litecoin my beloved...
I can’t wait to be done trading
Trading is so much fun but I hate the lifestyle
@cobalt quartz how did you quit
Was cycle over or did you lose most of it
cycle was kinda over and i got a job that paid me more than I'd ever make from trading
it was 2021-2022
a bit after elon was on SNL
Nice I need a job like that
helps that I was not making that much in crypto and a good job here is a normal job anywhere else
Oh yeah you’re in Thailand or something right
yeah like that
I know someone who recently took a 1 month holiday to thailand and vietnam
gotta be nice
About to do some sober self analysis and meditation then get drunk and trade
I suggest you do the other way around
No
I'm hammered
gonna get more hammered
get fucked
🫡
time to trade.
lock in baby the walls are blurring
fuck it I'm making a band tonight or I'm losing 8
Bull trap
That delta airlines play would have paid great
We all should have got in
Shits dropped by $7/share since we had that convo
I bet it goes farther
When did we discuss this
Around valentines day in general
Oh yeah someone was talking about opening a short
#general-2 message
Best Buy and related stores are a similar play i think unless he flip flops on taiwan
I need to start trading man
If there was a way to slowly load up a stock account with crypto and not have to declare where it came from I’d have already transitioned
I could tell you how to launder it but youll lose money in the transactions
Basically tumble to btc then btc to robinhood. If you go from whatever you have to something like LTC or ETH you can use a swapper to get xmr then convert the xmr to btc and theoretically the chain of custody is gone
I cant go back in time on the options chain easily but i bet that was a $200 -> $1000 play if you bought one and held to exp
You can do it on fidelity but its a pain in the ass and im not doing it
Fidelity seems cool
Its good but most of the features are unnecessary for the average trader imo
I want low fee margin trades and maybe options honestly
I made all of the money I've made off of extremely high risk gambles, insider trading, and learning to operate mechanical price imbalances. not paying taxes is a gamble in itself. this is what I do best
anyways the real reason is that realistically 40k-60k is an amount that doesn't matter enough to get an accountant for
if I made idk 300k or something I guess I'd get an accountant
I figured out a weird tax evasion "scheme" the other day involving blacklisting wallets
it's not properly evasion actually, it's more of tax liability control and temporal reclassification
I was talking to a friend about taxes a while ago and he put me onto the starting kernel: eat paper losses
like have your public / IRS announced wallets and your private / IRS hidden wallets as different networks of money essentially, eat paper losses between the two networks only essentially engaging thru purchases made to the same liquidity pools (could even blacklist all non-you wallets)
I would never do this of course
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I'm thinking a short on eth is the move
Easiest to start on robinhood and then figure out if you need a big boy broker or not
You can get margin on rh
Just say you know what you're doing
I want to make the lowest fee trades possible as many times a day as I want
You have to have 50k in stocks to day trade
Meaning you cant play with the 50k
If you drop to 4999 you wont be able to day trade
I missed the trade on eth
ahh I see at least on robinhood?
Its the law
Idk how they came up with the amount but back in the day they banned poors "to protect them from themselves"
Or if its not a literal law its like an sec policy that may as well be a law cus theres no way around it
You can do it with margin somehow i think but i would never open myself to that kind of debt
yeah idk how debt works with these companies. I'd set stop losses or whatever but who knows if they'd even hit
If you play options you dont really need a lot of margin
With a couple thousand bucks you can make serious money if you are successful
With 50 bucks you can make a couple thousand over time
If you dont lose
Thats why i like volatility plays its short term high reward
That delta play would have had a point where terror outweighs the actual price action and you could sell for a bonus basically
You also could enter and exit multiple times or keep buying more contracts
interesting
Overtrading will kill you anyway til you really have a plan
yeah I know this it's the same principle with crypto
god I can't believe I missed that eth short
I would've made the money from a month or two of my real job in that one trade
I was away from trading desk arguing about how french is a shitty language
It seems like you could sit and watch spy all day and just play up and down a few dollars but its so risky you make more just holding a contract overnight
He got paid 17m for it I think
When he said “what’s hyperliquid” I knew it was a scam
Somebody bought his acct or something and now has partial control and can tell him what to tweet
Trump’s is the only one that has lasted for more than a day
I think more than 3 days is impossible for a celeb coin now
Looking for entry on a long on eth
I think I’d enter 2640
Hard to say what pa we see after that hack
lost money on an initial position
made it back and like very small 2 figure profit on second position
lot of pvp on eth right now...
alright
opened another position on a mm nuke long clearout at 2659 and closed at 2664
net profit for the day is pluss 200
eth showing supreme weakness
I think we see 2645 and I long there
welp, 200 dollars closer to buying a gaming pc and other shit

or in other words that's 2/3rds of a bottle of dom
yes or 2/3 of a cameo greeting video, possibly personalized, from the costco guys
hardware seems like the better deal
thought of getting puts or shorting tesla a while back, but chickened out. would be paying off now
short order open on eth 2673 lets see if she hits
I failed to close my short properly... was too conservative... literally net +$5 on a trade... a snickers bar, an arizona green tea, and a loose cigarette from the cornerstore
at least I didn't lose money on fees
all the trades I made today
I made more today spending cumulative hour than I usually do in a week of work
just lost all the money I made today!
let's go!
this is why you don't trade on margin
Went from my most profitable day trading, max euphoria, lost control of my emotions from euphoria, ended as one of my least profitable if not max least profitable days
I think I am now net negative on margin trading
well, it was only -2000
like on the day
so
whatever
y'know I've lost more than that in 15 minutes before
hell I got drained once for 15k right when I started out and had no clue what I was doing
well no I knew what I was doing well enough to not get drained
anyways- it's just 2 bands
-1817.069416
If I don’t throw a “nothing ever happens” in the chat today just know I’m crashing out and the situation is dire and I’ll expose my trades later for analysis
Here’s my analysis of my trades from yesterday
My bad ones that is
Essentially I didn’t have a thesis and I kept trading
5x on this
Opening a spot long on solana today
Closed grades in profit yesterday
Made 800 or a thousand back across my memes sol and perps trades
Thinking about how refinement culture fits in with contemporary “identity as profilicity” in that refinement claims to “distill” an essence and ergo design updates like this are just making something more itself from the RC lens…
Re gooning: “gone wrong” lost its sexual connotation
I recall in my childhood into as late as 2016 (perhaps a death rattle there) “wrong” having a sexual feeling attached
Society was more repressed back then and less so now
I think something people are confused by and worried for kids about is that they’re exposed to sex a lot early
This could cause repression but it could cause early normalization
I would expect more normalizing
Gooning seems to be a product of sexual repression (seems obvious by argument is an enthymeme without this point)
is it time to short everything
Idk how to trade this pa anymore so I’m reading Freud and discussing gooning
But yeah maybe time to short bitcoin
Alts historically pump after bitcoin dump
I was thinking more on the stock market side. the trade war escalation seems pretty dire
You mean you’re bearish because of tariff fud?
very much so
Man I think the time to open shorts was really two days ago
I think we are presently seeing a retrace of the Trump bubble at the same time so wouldn’t be surprised by more bad PA
especially on shit like palantir
Scheme corporation 👆
Yes
But id do specific things
Overall they will probably do some bullshit so the snp hits yearly highs
Otoh tsla calls are expensive but the CEO is arguably top 5 most powerful people in the world
ended up losing some and making some more
every position I opened cost $200 though
anyways net + 790 on the day
literally a 22 second fucking trade bro
holy fucking shit
I could grab a lion by the head and pry open its mouth and kill it by pulling its face apart
jesus christ holy shit
Full humanity… Thanatos and Eros meet…
Read Freud and put it all on black pussy!!!
Black, pussy*
No you were right the first time
I am net neutral on margin trades now
does that include the time youve spent
or do you not calculate your time as having value
Uhhh on learning to trade margin I treat breaking even as being profitable because I didn’t have to pay any tuition
One sec this is a really interesting question gonna get out the patio
Laptop*
okay on laptop now
alright
when I first started out trading memecoins last april, I made 15k in one month, roundtripped it all back down to 4k, then bought another coin and went to 15k, then all my money got drained thru a hack (it was my fault), and my friends gave me 5k (was really close with some 7-8 figure people back then oddly, closer to them then than I am today). I don't normally bring up the hack point, because the buyback makes calculating my PNL confusing and necessarily inaccurate. After this the 5k I was gifted slowly dwindled down to 2k, then I started trading again. I made some more money, lost some money, then I think at one point my portfolio fell down to around 900 dollars in october or something.
So, on memecoins, so far the PNL would look like this:
1500 - > 15000
15000 - > 4000
4000 -> 15000
15000 -> 5000
5000 -> 2000
2000 -> 900
anyways, after that, my last hold pumped and turned into like 5 or 6k and I randomly got an airdrop from a website that I had used in the past (and still use today to trade perps actually, app.hyperliquid.xyz/PVPON for my ref link) for 2000
pretty soon after that (sometime in november) I cracked into 5 figs for the first time, etc. etc. now I've made more money from memes than I have from IRL job
and I've spent less time at it*
anyways, I used to calculate in my head how many hours I've spent and shit like that because I wanted to create rules for myself so I didn't overgamble or something, now I just do it because I enjoy pointless calculation in my head to keep myself sharp, so sometimes I'll just take my entire portfolio balance and assume a figure on the low end of the range (some of the assets are less liquid and there are tons of fees) and figure out how much I've made per hour. it's hard to figure out for many many reasons
so, on perps trading and losses and wins and all of that: I view this as a skill to be learned, it's gonna cost me something, I can't play at it forever, but it's nice to be back to breaking even.
if you told me "yeah you're gonna be in a box and you're gonna get paid x dollars per hour to feel these emotions" I would've never accepted the job
a big part of why I enjoy trading is the process of emotional regulation that you have to do. I trade WAY better on days when I meditate, and I trade terribly when I'm mad, tired, hungry, lonely, or euphoric
yes my time has value but frankly with shitcoining I would be shitposting anyways and at least I'm making money, on perps, I treat the money I lose as tuition and the money I make as luck (at least this early on)
speaking of trading perps: lookin for entry on a long on btc. I had perfect entry a second ago and failed to act because I didn't believe my eyes, but even the super basic dom I'm using was showing tons more support on buy side. obvious buy...
interesting way to look at it
If you get too attached to the money you enter fear / greed or pain / euphoria paradigm
It really fucks up your ability to win. Have lost so much money doing dumb shit
You see I always assumed traders traded because of greed
so hearing you just do it for what can only be described as a love of the game is kind of crazy
I'm not contradicting this point. You're right, you're definitely right, but there's more to greed. greed on my usage there is a driver underlying emotional states of extreme euphoria and extreme despair
of course I don't just do it for the love of the game, but I really enjoy meditation also and view trading as an opportunity to defuse anxieties. I'm not the greatest at it, but I'm also not the worst, and I'm getting better.
a lot of "traders" blame women and minorities for the reasons that they don't make money and why their lives are shit, y'know. they prefer to be right and lose money over checking themselves, growing, and making a few bands
I'm long btc here mentally by the way just executing a paper trade. feels like that breakout got buckbroken and now it might cower into sunday scaries, but that crypto summit is bullish despite how dumb it is. we won't be able to tell until perps market opens at 6 tomorrow. current price is 85861
Time cost is offset by learning value if you dont trade lazy
sometimes I still trade lazy
anybody see this dude's huge positions?
I really think it's just a hedge
you don't open a position like this unless you're a billionaire
you'd have to be playing forex on a massive scale for this to make any sense
why not just close it yknow
down 1500 today overtrading this trump announcement PA
and now I'm down only 70 dollars on the day
fuck that, I'm done trading for today, my luck has run out
if I had left the position open for 2 minutes longer I would've liquidated half my portfolio
alright I lost more and I made more back and I'm now at -60 lol
basically what I've learned is that if I want to win I can't stare at PNL
I'm in a highly anxious state right now so I'll probably speak in hyperbole (need to say this to avoid the nitpicking encountered on this server)
PNL is totally irrelevant to what acts you need to do, it only serves to bring pain
best thing to do is to define the trade beforehand
I feel like an emotional wreck
I'm drained
gambled again
703 in profit
on the day
I kept gambling and made another 3400
~10% port size increase
fuck this shit
my luck is definitely done
1691.87023704
I'm pretty sure a gamble on euro cloud services at the moment would have a chance make bank
the rift is widening to a degree where it's a risk to host anything on US clouds. when the moment comes that a political decision is made, nothing else really matters, not even a price tag
none of them seem particularly appealing as of yet though, after looking into it for a moment
tesla keeps on crashing. I thought I was a bit too late to enjoy it fully, but no
was up 1400 on this account yesterday and calculation is fucked so treating this as 1700 loss
ergo up 1500 on the day
fucky PA
interesting thesis I'm curious about whatever info you come up with here
i also don't really understand any of this shit it's all the same to me
sorry for fudding you out of any of those trades if I did
Hes on the right track. The data is being siloed. What happened with tik tok could happen with anyone the way our relations are going
I would buy tsla calls tho
no don't worry about it. I'm just throwing out thoughts. I was just disappointed in myself that I had a very strong feeling about Tesla, and didn't jump on it when I knew I should've, only later
I'd be hesitant. the slide hasn't stopped, there's still impacts to be had. the uncertainty is very high which also makes buying any calls pretty expensive
the best thing that could happen to Tesla is somehow getting divorced from Musk. if there's any signs of that happening I might just gamble on it a little bit
I think the opposite
I think as long as hes there the value has very little to do with the actual market
Because he and trump are gonna cheat the market like he did last time
the bear case is that a lot of cloud demand is in fact coming from the us hyperscalers
But I’m on board with it
So Tesla is roughly where it was on Election Day now, but sales numbers are cratering
We’re seeing a legit boycott take shape in Europe/ China
I’m not allowed to trade for a week or two but this chart looks like a pretty short
There’s too much downward momentum for total recovery here at least
When I saw all the headlines about Elon musk being the richest guy in the world with 400 bill or whatever I knew it was a short…
I think this chart goes to 235 before it goes to 305
there pretty much is one, but I feel like there's multiple facets to it. first one is Musk, obviously enough. then there's anti-US administration sentiment, which is tied to Musk through what's happening. third is EVs in general. Teslas are very expensive. Chinese EVs are incredibly cheap, but will likely face heavy tariffs if they already didn't get them. last year it looked obvious they will get hit by them severely, and euro manufacturers just can't match the price. it's also why I thought EV demand in general would go down (coupled with a few other minor things that don't matter), but I might very well be wrong on that guess
I'm not sure how well you guys inside the US understand, but there has been a massive shift of sentiment toward what the US is and whether they can be relied on at all. even during Iraq, Afghanistan, everything, it has never been even remotely like this. I don't know if this shows up in your news or anywhere. you keep threatening with armed invasion of your allies and have started trade wars
But if you buy three different cars you can tell people you have S-E-X
What could be better marketing than that
Looks like there was a clean short op on tsla yesterday
3% difference between close yesterday and pre market today
Let’s see the fuckin blood
Tesla down 6.7% on the day!
I don't see the slide stopping anytime soon, but I might be unimaginative. especially with what all can be accomplished with Elon having the access that he does
kinda feel like genuinely big investments will start to dry up and piles of money will just be sat upon and put into bonds. TSMC doesn't count because they're ridiculous in size and also very much pressured to do so. I wouldn't put it past Trump to directly threaten with pulling away protection too unless investments happen, but I'm sure he's at least hinted at it
the less consistent Trump is, the less he lets things sit after they've been touched, the fewer laws and agreements that are honored, the greater the risk
This would be bullish honestly
no. investments at scale into sectors are non-transactional. they'll get left holding the bag if something changes on a whim
I think people would stop trusting him and nobody would care very much at some point
Does anyone else remember the arbitrage opportunity that once existed on taco bell tacos thru the taco pass?
perversely i think the biggest bull case for tesla is that trump is beginning to silo elon a bit
so he might be prevented from doing so many publicly unpopular acts
Is it legally possible to make it so that all federal jobs have similar requirements to being president
I feel as though elon's unpopularity could be played
If it keeps getting worse
"attention economy" more apt desciptor... we've transcended (or descended from) dignity... audentes fortuna iuvat... or the loud, at least...
WINNING QUOTES by Charlie Sheen in his epic winning videos
"Right, well, you borrow my brain for five seconds and just be like, dude can't handle it, unplug this bastard, yeah, because it just it fires in a way that is um, I don't know, maybe not from this particular um terrestrial realm!" - Charlie Sheen
Lady - "Some are saying you are bi-po...
WINNING QUOTES by Charlie Sheen in his epic winning videos
"Right, well, you borrow my brain for five seconds and just be like, dude can't handle it, unplug this bastard, yeah, because it just it fires in a way that is um, I don't know, maybe not from this particular um terrestrial realm!" - Charlie Sheen
Lady - "Some are saying you are bi-po...
This second one has a good piece of trading advice at the start
Trying to find a homeless guy to buy a bike off of with my profits from today
@glossy tundra any tips
tesla is down over 15% today alone
I'm gonna scam creatively use the offer a food delivery service is providing tomorrow to celebrate
I think im out of my depth on that one
I'm gonna buy bikes and gear with the money Musk donates me
Gonna try to wash my crypto gains and gtfo
I got envious of you guys trading trad fi lol
Once I mentally shorted tsla at 280 I got a fixation on it
It’s insane like
They are all scams but none of them are like pnd scams
Crypto is so tiring
yeah I can very well imagine
I'm still not seeing the slide stop though. that's the crazy part. I don't think I'll ride it too much longer though. one doesn't don't go broke taking profits
I usually countertrade meme culture and I’ve been seeing a lot memes pop up about how economy bad
Honestly starting to think he realized that without covid he couldnt do money printing like that again so he decided to go dump and pump
it's pretty much a death sentence to Tesla outside of US if the car gets co-opted by MAGA and owning one becomes a show of loyalty
Also in the us it's a brilliant move to be popular with the political wing that loves gas guzzling for it's own sake
I am blowing so much cash
I love cashing out of crypto
I hate trading crypto
up next is a new bookshelf
I exited after the first positive day and I'm happy about it. rest of the week was weak upward trend. feels like it's time to load up again
lmao. they're parading republicans on TV now to shill for tesla, it'll never be this cheap again!
A guy i know made $2,000 off a $19 bet today
We are never defeating sports gambling
I’ve never met an honest sports gambler
Anybody who’s that cracked at it is too rich to talk to me
I only trust people who post account pnl screenshots
Granted that means you shouldn’t trust my crypto gains wins because I’ve only posted account balances and can’t / won’t publically substantiate my Coinbase account info
I saw it in person he hit a six leg parlay
I didn't mean to question the individual trade, just whether he was net profitable
I'm almost 100% sure he is not lol
did he cash out the 2k or put it on more bets
I guess he just bets like $20 a day he said he lost today
But i think he cant cash it all out these apps like gamify the shit out of it so your money is kind of trapped for a while
Like they'll offer to double what you put down or leverage your odds in someway but the catch is that you cant cash out the winnings until you have deposited that amount or some shit like that, its not every bet but thats how these things really work and get predatory
so far a small loss. I'm still not believing in it at all, but I underestimated the pump
happens. I'm not hung up on it. if it keeps pumping I'm just gonna accept that I'm wrong and wait a bit
it doesn't even matter whether you're right or wrong, just the overall sentiment or pressure is enough to make things happen and there's no point going up against that
so its a scam
@cosmic spoke @dry pecan how do you trade stocks
I want to buy $250 of go pro stock because it’s too low and I think it’s not gonna go bankrupt
Not for any logical reasons
But just because of my intuition
alright
I have an account with a company called public now
I'm only allowed to put 500 in iot
it
I've learned the value of the dollar
gonna maybe buy 50 of go pro but not that much. even throwing 10% of my port at something like that feels ridiculous
tasty is probably the cheapest with the most options
(but also with tools with which you can bankrupt yourself)
I also just saw in the news that Musk is pleading to his employees to not to sell tesla
starting to feel like this has a real chance of going to the ground. he sounded like the GME diamond hands people
Kimball musk dumped 28mil last month lmao
I pray for the day that musk gets margin called
Opened a trad fi margin account with 500
says I need 2 bandos to trade on margin tho
We sniping anything pre market today bros
Whats the call what’s the call
Whats the motherfucking ticker
@cosmic spoke @glossy tundra @dry pecan
Looking for an entry to target snp crashing even further based on this handy timeline of whale panic
Tempted to buy spxs calls on a day like today so i dont have to spend $700 on a spy put but idrk how spxs works tbh its burned me before
honestly i wanted to buy a put because i think the market is rallying on cope rn and once the april 9 tariffs go in to effect we'll trim another 2%
I think we see more little bounces like this as little countries and allies strike deals but then it will become all about china and crash again
If any allies go to china instead over negotiating with trump huge crash
Eu is already moving that way if they can agree to some anti dumping stuff
aside from the fact that I don't feel like you should take anything from me, I'm not going to engage in this. I have in the past and I feel like it soured some things. I shared what I was doing, was very confident in it, and got a win. with a shittier timing a few other people didn't, even after I told them in no unclear terms that it would likely be a mistake and that the timing was crucial
you're not really that type of person, but any of it creates something I want to avoid and has a chance of me feeling like shit if things don't pan out for someone else
I always give people a this is gambling and i am a gambler disclaimer
yeah, same. but it doesn't shield me from feeling like shit
overall my feeling is that US is gazing in on itself pretty hard. I think I said it a few months back already, but the shift seems far bigger than anything before during my lifetime. significant amount of trust was broken, especially as it comes to between Europe and US. I'm not getting the feeling that people in the US have realized this yet
I’ve lost probably 40-60k on bad calls and poorly timed buys. I wouldn’t blame you and I understand timing / how to find entry on a chart. That being said, you don’t have to share anything
I’d like to add - if someone made money on a call you issued, it’s not because you issued a great call similarly to how you aren’t responsible for a loss
My question is who is pulling the strings fr. Last time around these big moves were telegraphed more, with the wh and the fed playing off eachother and it gave people who paid enough attention a slight edge sometimes. It doesnt feel like trump personally is in as much control this time, even if the actions are more radical and unilateral
And i dont mean Putin or whatever i mean like who is the econ guy in his camp and can we read his mind
Cus i hope its not just Vance following random right wing twitter ideas
the few things that seem very likely to win off of this, and which have of course been getting stellar returns already, are defense companies in Europe. a serious re-arming is beginning or has begun in part, and on multiple layers for multiple reasons it seemed like EU manufacturers were going to be favored. now it seems almost obvious. I'm sure US can still bully and force nations to essentially buy security off of it, but it's just not the same at all
Rheinmetall especially has been getting ridiculous returns for a while now, but after this? I don't think it's going to end. Rolls Royce, Thales, Leonardo, Saab have all been pumping hard since february
Marjorie Green bought a bunch of shit in the red yesterday, guessing she knew about this pause
Most shameless pump and dump since uhh Melania coin
I did save my entire portfolio by cost basising down at 1:05 et
They're saying that MTG went 700k to 200m off that insider trading tarriff dump and pump
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In a world where #America is no longer a dependable ally, the #EU looks to replace US weapons and, at the same time, build its own #defense industries. It's the biggest military buildup Europe has seen since World War II. About $860 billion has b...
comments regarding Turkey are pretty wishful though
just ordered the solana phone
short .1 btc on 10x leverage liq point 102286 entry price 94347
Think there’s a crazy arbitrage opportunity here by the way
It’s only $500 in Solana, apparently if you played the trade well on the original phone the airdrops ran up to 8k or so
Zamn
feel bad for the visionaries who thought about this early with biden
is there a bet for how much barron & pals made off of this bet?
imagine just blurting out some stupid shit and that paying for your kids + all of his friends stuff for the summer
we know they're in that space
Ive seen ones that were literally on how many times a certain word would be said at a press conference
Couldnt be easier to cheat
Holy shit i just had a billion dollar idea
Prediction market for rap music
I would be so good at this, big overlap with the draftkings market
How do i get a trillion dollar loan
So many market manip opportunities…
Sounds cool but ive never worked anywhere where i think it would work very well
I think they are one of the more useful memetic measurements we have when they work well but theyre very susceptible to manipulation
Interesting
Wondering if putting your money where your mouth is modifies accuracy in some way
I think if the outcome of the market can be decided by one man deciding to do or say something different with no consequences the logic behind the terrorism futures panic is much stronger
Thats why i say more easily manipulated
Everybody so scared of hyperstition they talmbout “market making”
Can you post? Is this shit public?
wisdom of crowds maxxing
How bout you pill me once you’re done I’ll read whatever is worth the time in your opinion
I understand some aspects of it
there are a few elements and types of market making
I think two major goals:
make the exchange money
make the price of the asset reflect the price of the asset on other exchanges
that's the case for crypto at least
you could replace exchange with hedge fund there I suppose for trad fi
But a prediction market is completely different
They start off owning all the units for sale and only pay out at the end so all they have to do is bring in enough losers to cover the winners and tax the winners
The real trick to it is bringing in enough constant business to make money off a very low rake
Its more similar to running a poker table than traditional market making imo
The ones that ive used dont seem to really forecast anything. I have always assumed that the forecasted odds were just (yes votes)/(no votes) at least on predictit
Yeah but the price adjusts in real time to the bid/ask ratio. With stocks you have IV value and such but on predictit i dont think they set a forecast
Like they dont start out with 60% odds for example
They all start out with number of positions/total market so like 4 candidates would open at .25 each and then the odds would be adjusted by the market participants
they arent writing a forecast because the forecast is set by price discovery. I guess i dont understand what a market maker does besides hold the money in that scenario
I thought the market initiators sold contracts at a minimum price that they choose
They can but i thought they didn't, can't find the part of the website where the opening process is described
Called this btw
Thinking about taking up trading again
Man
I wanna exploit mechanical price imbalances and feed on thin order books
Best of luck man
I started buying AI related stocks in 2023 and they've been doing pretty good
I just noticed this channel exists today lol
This month, I sold a couple Nvidia and put it into MVST, CVV, and NVTS which has been a great move
If China takes Taiwan, I'm so fucked 
Dope trades
Blackberry is a good one to experiment with options on
This is about crypto twitter but i could have said the same thing about gamestop and wsb
this has been going on since at least this time last year
I don't think it really blew up until slightly later int he year but that's also caused by my experience being limited
I only traded on base and eth from april to uhhhh probably june last year
the twitter meta being discussed in that tweet is primarily for and relating to coins on solana
all this being said this "xcoin" meme started with either asscoin or fartcoin I can't remember
I was early to both and made money on both of those
at some point though I started to feel that there was no extractable value left in these markets / that I would have to sacrifice so much time and energy it wasn't worth it
If this next crypto scheme wins big me and my bros are gonna fly to Cuba to get the lung cancer vaccine and smoke a lot of cigars
America doesn’t want you to know this
fun fact of the day: one of the large mmo boosting/cheating services also runs one of the large international chinese tea resellers
I’m gonna make an investment tmrw I think
Raytheon calls?
Remember to always invest in yourself over any stock
I was completely correct about this iran shit and i still lost all my money
Lesson: buy time
JUST IN: U.S. Director of Federal Housing orders mortgage providers to accept Fartcoin when assessing creditworthiness.
Praying iran fucks up global trade so i can make $200
I won this time btw
SPY near all time highs for the fourth of july just as a president obsessed with the market would desire
Betting on a small correction when the market reopens
@glossy totem you should get into options

Your picks are pretty good and you probably put more thought into trades than i do, but the margins are much better if you can stay smart about it
Im up 16% total port in one week
Only made 3 trades
what do crypto wallet extensions even do https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/dozens-of-fake-wallet-add-ons-flood-firefox-store-to-drain-crypto/
is it for people that cant just bookmark a tab or have a phone app
A lot of them don’t have an external tab option
They pop up when the page prompts you with a contract to sign
Im already in the money lfg
Boing boing boing
I’ll take a trade with you
Drop a position sometime
I’ll set aside a bando or so
Ill post the next one just sold todays
Basically just running the same strategy i did last time trump was in office
More worried about not losing than big wins rn. I was very confident that trump would want to be able to say we were at aths on the 4th. I also knew that it was an early trading day going into a long weekend. Correction was already almost certain. Then you also tack on the BBB passing while the market was closed.
Now im just playing the choppy action. Trying to stay with the general market flow while keeping my eye out for the next thing that will boost/scare retail investors
Rn that thing is looking like it will be the fed cutting rates but i think if that happens itll be up and back down pretty fast
Regardless of what happens overall i think we will see SPY @ 700 in 2028
Made a nice conservative 170% today
Way out of the money spy puts
I would have gone even harder but i hit my day trade limit for the week
Holding out of the money calls now
All house money
Up 53% on the ones im holding overnight
I'm just going slowly and safely lol
As safe as one can be holding onto stocks while Trump is Trumping
Just put aside like $50 for options
Maybe $400 max is all you need to try it out
You will realize that you can make a lot more money without studying that hard
Doesnt have to be and shouldnt be everything you have
Oh yeah they definitely require a lot of attention thats why i dont take it too seriously even tho i do kind of have a good record
I dont really have the time either
But to me its just fun gambling if i make serious money ill be pleased but im also cool hovering around a grand for a year and always having bets to look forward to
I think you can manage the time differently if you dont risk too much and you treat it as gambling ig
If i ever work for somewhere that has the 401k set up where you can trade options im risking it all
I have like ten years of practice
Warhammer 401k
2 real 5 me
Making the cop wait three hours while i nervously martingale my way up to betting my entire 401k
Corruption saving me from myself rn
Trying to come up with schemes
Bloat relief product that instructs you to not eat for 6 hours on either side of product ingestion and to eat smaller meals
its funny because you expect people to follow directions
It doesn’t matter if it works bro
I'm still flabbergasted my stocks went up by about two months rent's worth in the last month lol
And one month's rent's worth in the last week
I keep thinking about this classic meme
Hell yeah i wanna go there
I did the ones in wheeling WV which was nice but I've heard charleston is better
How busy was it
pretty dead
Thats what i thought from videos ive seen
Starting to form some ideas about this
I dont get it. Am i dumb?
Closing point
Intraday can be higher doesn’t matter
But closing point is a snapshot
This article is a summary of the closing milestones of the S&P 500 Index, a United States stock market index.
so on a scale of 1-10 how fucked are we
Its AI look at the seal
We may be entering a period where those with a sharp eye can join in the cheating if we see more of this
ahh
I just assumed it was real cause you posted it
didn't even read the letter
this is the second time I've just assumed something was real here and its AI
maybe I should be more scrutinizing
I thought it was real at a glance too twitter told me
7 because we have to assume that Mike Lee might be telling the truth about something
That’s the real evil here
Literally just buying week out calls every time we have a red day and cashing out 20% every day like today

Feeling like PayPal is a pretty obvious long here
People i follow have been raving about it for a while
Yesterday, a coworker had his birthday at this bar that features a room filled with a couple dozen pinball tables. We were all drinking, hanging out, playing a few games when a guy joins our group. It was pretty loud in there and it sounded like this guy was the friend of another guy in our group.
We start talking about jobs and he says he works in some sort of petroleum company. The birthday boy drunkenly asked if the rando had any stock tips from the perspective of his job. I said, "Yeah! Give us that Martha Stewart intel!"
He recommended this Golden Cariboo Resources Limited (GCC) company. Says he's worked with them before and he says he's quite certain it'll blow up. I drunkenly put $200 down and threw horns 🤘
Figured out when walking home that no one in the group actually knew this guy and he just randomly approached our group to hang out with us and I drunkenly took stock advice from a full-on rando
Fingers crossed this penny stock hits $1 🤞I'm still bracing myself for it to be more like I blew $200 on gas station scratchers 
The market makers want me to puke my 2 PayPal calls I bought for 70 dollars that expire next week and that’s why they’re tanking the stock
They own movie pass, surely this will pay off any day now
🔮
I’ve never seen so much value getting extracted
I hate cheap stocks
Imagining thirty dildos of various colors flying on court in the first second of playtime as everyone tries to cash in
I think it would. I think its almost certain that some people have already manipulated the markets like this in secret. It wouldnt be hard to get away with when you have stuff like "will they say the word billionaire in this press conference" just set up some straw bets you could even use it to just pay people off without personally making money
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Find some way to make money off this
I swear it’s going to explode
Maybe if it wasnt just flavoring
People who would buy this mostly have never had a pregnant wife
I will not elaborate
No you don’t have to. It is true what you’re saying
Thank you for keeping my thread alive i need a tom replacement
Colors are backwards on that chart?
Green means bad
Made by a weeb because Japan charts show red as gain/green as loss
The charts are green and they’re jumping out of windows? Are they stupid??
clearly the japanese have never watched star wars
Adin Ross got a call from casino owner telling him to switch his $1,000,000 bet from Canelo to Terence Crawford minutes before the fight.
“I can’t say anything, but I got one of those calls”
Crawford ended up winning. https://t.co/lf1DCmey1f
Stock market rigged. Sports rigged. Prediction Markets manipulated. What is a man to do
not engage
Blasphemy
Scratchers it is
Seriously tho in a real society this video would cause an investigation
I am here as the voice of anti-gambling
now that Tom Hoso is gone, the voice of gambling has left
rothschild at the battle of waterloo shit
Tpm poker night when
that's why he gave trump a cyber truck
Unrelated
Wow 😂
Coinbase $COIN CEO Brian literally got distracted during the earnings call to check a prediction market on what he was gonna say… then went ahead and said every single word people were betting on. https://t.co/aInoaAH47C
