#getting input lag and lagging in general whenever i play online

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low rover
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@dapper elbow hi so i connected to ethernet my download speed is 53.6 and my upload speed is 13.1 i dont lag or disconnect out of smash bros anymore but the input lag is definetly still possible does it not go away or does every switch player play with input lag

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i also changed the MTU and DNS as the same as my wlan on the LAN so idk if that improved anything

dapper elbow
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Also, your MTU/DNS settings is restricted by your router already if you set it up like that.

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That's just like repeating the setting the router already has, so no need.

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Since it's online, of course there is a delay always. But is it really bad?

low rover
dapper elbow
low rover
dapper elbow
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Your internet speed isn't an issue

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But for the NAT alone, you know why

low rover
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so if i get it to nat type a will it give me less input delay

dapper elbow
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Maybe, although I can't be sure

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It's something you have to try and see

low rover
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ill give it a shot

dapper elbow
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Good luck

low rover
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is there anything i can do to fix input lag whenever i play online games such as smash bros i own a switch oled and i wanna know if using it with ethernet will make a difference

dapper elbow
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Wireless or wired (attached joycon) controller?

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You can test input delay in System Settings > Controllers and Sensors > Input test. Or you can use a mock match in Smash.

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If you think there is no delay for the controllers then go to System Settings
Internet > Do a connection test and tell me the result.

low rover
dapper elbow
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They have different purpose.

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The first test is to test the delay of the wireless connection between your controller and the console.

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The 2nd test is for your internet connection.

low rover
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ok ill do them right now

dapper elbow
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Since it's Smash, it might be affected by this nifty things called NAT type but let's wait till I get the test results first.

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Btw if you play offline, do you feel the delay?

low rover
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do i go on test input devices

dapper elbow
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yep

low rover
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no delay on my contrl

low rover
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everything runs smooth when i play offline

dapper elbow
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I see, do the connection test next then

low rover
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its only when i play online i start lagging and my attacks are delayed

dapper elbow
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Tell me the download/upload speed and NAT type.

low rover
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nat type is b

dapper elbow
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Decent but not the best

low rover
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12.6 download speed

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12.1 upload speed

dapper elbow
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Not bad, it's ok

low rover
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i also changed dns setting if that does anything

dapper elbow
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Have you ever get this type of error saying there's a an issue connecting to other consoles?

low rover
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i dont think so

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the worst thing that has happened is that i got disconnected from a game when playing online

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but i never got an error message i believe

dapper elbow
graceful forumBOT
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nat

NAT TYPES & ONLINE MULTIPLAYER

※ Many Nintendo first party games use peer-to-peer connection in online multiplayer, this is affected by Network Address Translation (NAT) - a function of the router. NAT type rank from A > B > C, from best to worse.

You can check your NAT type by System Settings ⚙️ > Internet > Test Connection.

To improve your NAT type, you can setup DMZ (demilitarized zone) or Port-forwarding on your router. It does require certain networking knowledge to do so. Below are Nintendo's guides:
How to place a Nintendo Switch console into a router's DMZ.
How to Set Up a Router's Port Forwarding for a Nintendo Switch Console - Open all ports, essentially the same with DMZ.

○ Note: Sometime you cannot improve your NAT type by these methods This is due to your ISP's config. In this case, give your ISP a call.

dapper elbow
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Now after you have read this, let's move onto the main question about using an ethernet adapter

low rover
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yea

dapper elbow
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Yes, you can get NAT type A and better internet connection with an ethernet adapter.

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But a few caveats

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You need to buy specific ethernet adapter for it to work.

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The NAT type may not change if your router or ISP has some restrictions on it.

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At the very least, a wired connection is always better than a wireless connection.

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Will it solve your issue? Maybe, but we have to try to know.

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For buying an ethernet adapter, check below

graceful forumBOT
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lan

COMPATIBLE ETHERNET LAN ADAPTERS

※ Only ethernet adapters using AX88179 chipset will be compatible with the Nintendo Switch console. The list below are adapters that have been tested and confirmed to be working.

• Recommended adapters:
Hori Official Nintendo Licensed LAN Adapter - $29.99
Nintendo Official Switch/WiiU/Wii LAN Adapter - Hard to find.
Bionik Giganet Adapter USB 3.0 to Wired Ethernet - $24.99
UGREEN USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet Network Adapter - $15.99
AmazonBasics USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - $17.49
Plugable USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet LAN Network Adapter - $16.95
StarTech USB 3.0 to Gigabit Ethernet NIC Network Adapter - $19.99

Note:
・ The upcoming Nintendo Switch OLED model will include a LAN port in the dock. You can buy this dock separately.
・ LAN adapter works better with the USB port on the back of your dock.
・ You can use an USB-A to USB-C adapter for handheld/tabletop mode.
・ LAN adapters may make the Switch slightly heat up in sleep mode. You can get rid of this by turning off the always connect setting in System Settings > Sleep Mode > Maintain Internet Connection in Sleep Mode.

dapper elbow
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Now, if you buy one of these and plugged it in to find NAT type still don't change to A

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then refer to the earlier tag that has DMZ guide.

low rover
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sure

dapper elbow
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It requires some networking knowledge to setup, you can ask someone or a technician from your ISP to help

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That should be it, then. Take your time to muse over these, quite a lot of details. If you still questions, feel free to ask here again.

low rover
dapper elbow
low rover
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ok thanks for your help

dapper elbow
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👍

low rover
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oh yea one last question in internet settings there is this thing called MTU and its set at 1500 and i heard that if you change it to 1400 it will improve your internet connection or something?? but im not so sure

dapper elbow
low rover
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oh alright ill try them out and do a connection test to see which one works the best