laggy capture card, please help?

[orchid pebble]

I was always adverse of buying a capture card to stream from my switch because from what ive heard i would worry that the experience would be super awful and delayed and laggy for me, and basically make it not worth the money or effort.

I was later assured by a friend that that only goes for bad capture cards and that if i get a good one, these problems would not appear.
So I got convinced and went on amazon and bought this capture card claiming

"【Real-time Preview】: The audio and video capture card adopts ultra-low latency technology, allowing you to game live recording without delay. And makes it easier for you to have real-time streaming for Twitch, Youtube, Facebook, TikTok, record videos directly to the hard disk, output no compression without delay."

with reviews confirming the same thing, basically no review i saw complained whatsoever about lag or delay, not even bad ones, and i made sure to check that my computer was above the minimum specs required on the amazon page of the product.

So why, why is that now that i finally got it all set up, it feels like ass??
There is a noticable delay when playing which makes me bump into walls and walk off things even just from walking around in a game, and the sound is even MORE delayed.
Its basically completely unplayable and unenjoyable like this. WHAT am i doing wrong????

of couse the video doesnt completely show the lag, but you can see the delay of the audio, and how walking around is kind of awkward to do with delay

its hard to notice without being the one playing though

[harsh kernel]

Does the delay start immediately or does it take a while to develop?

[orchid pebble]

immediately

i havent tested if it gets worse over time or anything tho

i cant bare playing more than a few seconds like this lol

[harsh kernel]

what software are you using on the PC side to capture with? OBS?

[orchid pebble]

yes

[harsh kernel]

what frame rate do you have set for capture?

@orchid pebble

[orchid pebble]

sorry

i have it set at 40

ive tried setting it lower too and it doesnt make any visible difference

[harsh kernel]

40 makes no sense. Try 60

@orchid pebble

[orchid pebble]

60 seems to make it slightly worse tho

[harsh kernel]

Where in the world are you located?

@orchid pebble

[orchid pebble]

germany?

[harsh kernel]

Try 50 or 25 then

[devout nova]

what capture card are you using?

[surreal hornet]

Ah I came to this thread late

@orchid pebble What your friend said about capture card is correct, but we have no idea what capture card did you get.

The premium capture card that has no lag/delay cost upward 100 bucks. Anything lower than that will have issues.

The reason why you don't see complain in reviews because people often buy capture card to...well, capture for recording or streaming. The usage of viewing the console's output on your PC's screen is rather niche.

There are ways to reduce the delay on cheaper capture card, not by much, but possible. But first you need to tell us what it is.

[orchid pebble]

that would really make a difference?

[harsh kernel]

Absolutely. Give it a try

[orchid pebble]

if 24 or even 10 fps is delayed why would 25 fps make a difference? /gen

[harsh kernel]

Because your TV runs at 25 gpa

Fps*

[orchid pebble]

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BL3HVMWW?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[orchid pebble]

interesting, i can try it

but i dont have much hope haha

The premium capture card that has no lag/delay cost upward 100 bucks. Anything lower than that will have issues.
then why did all the reviews say there wasnt any delay? like i said even bad ones dont complain about it

i cant spend 100 grand just to screenshare some videogames to my friends

thats the whole reason i DIDNT want to buy a capture card in the FIRST place

[harsh kernel]

Let me know if it works

[orchid pebble]

i will

trying it right now

this?

there is no noticable difference to me

"【Real-time Preview】: The audio and video capture card adopts ultra-low latency technology, allowing you to game live recording without delay. And makes it easier for you to have real-time streaming for Twitch, Youtube, Facebook, TikTok, record videos directly to the hard disk, output no compression without delay."

"Basically, this product is "just" an HDMI-to-USB port. Which is particularly interesting for gamers who are active on YouTube or Twitch, since the HDMI signal is transmitted without any input lag. I don't have to worry about lag anymore. Therefore I can only recommend it."

"The** sync of picture and sound is good**, and we didn't notice any input lag or anything unusual."

"I had no lag when playing games and very low latency."'

"This little thing is seriously better than £300 capture cards I've gotten in the past. I was able to capture 4k video from a mac with this where I couldn't with my elgato capture card."

"Purchased to display the video output of a piece of laboratory equipment in a window on my PC. It's not perfect - the reds are a bit burned out - but it does the job well for me and at an amazingly low price! Animation seems smooth and there is no obvious latency."

these and more descriptions and reviews are the reason i bought this thing, so i dont see why i out of all people, am the one to suddenly experience this lag that apparently didnt exist

[harsh kernel]

yes, 25 for PAL

[orchid pebble]

idk what PAL means :,)

[harsh kernel]

PAL means Phase Alternating Line

it's the old european standard for analog TV

the 25 frames per second rate was carried over to digital tv

what frame rate is your monitor running at?

@orchid pebble

[orchid pebble]

i dont know, do you know how i could check this?

[harsh kernel]

are you running windows or are you running mac os

[orchid pebble]

windows

[harsh kernel]

right click the desktop and tell me what options you have

[orchid pebble]

it says this in the monitor settings btw if thats any help

[harsh kernel]

okay, so you're running at 60 fps

[harsh kernel]

try capturing at 60

[orchid pebble]

I already did, its smoother (obviously) and i think the delay is slightly worse, but i could also be imagening that

in any case its definitely not better

[harsh kernel]

are you connecting directly to the PC or are you using a USB hub

[orchid pebble]

directly

[harsh kernel]

hmm

try using a different usb cord

[orchid pebble]

cord?

[harsh kernel]

cable

[orchid pebble]

but the usb cable part is directly connected to the capture card

[harsh kernel]

it's not detachable?

[orchid pebble]

no see

i would try using the type c output to see if that improves anything but i dont think my pc has any usb c input

[harsh kernel]

hmm

do you have another computer you can try this with?

a laptop or something

[orchid pebble]

no

[harsh kernel]

do you have a friend who has a computer?

[orchid pebble]

no

noone that lives within any sort of reaching distance lol

[harsh kernel]

that's unfortunate

have you tried using a different usb port on your computer?

[orchid pebble]

no

should i try a front one (not usb 3.0) another usb 3.0 back one, a non usb 3.0 back one

[harsh kernel]

yes, yes, and yes

[orchid pebble]

well people in the reviews say its not usb 3.0 anyways so idk if it even matters but

[harsh kernel]

try a usb 2.0 port then

[orchid pebble]

ill try a front port

[orchid pebble]

which is weird tho because the usb is literally blue and it says

hm.......... i dont see anything

[harsh kernel]

try setting it up again in obs

[orchid pebble]

it worked again after plugging it back into the back and de&reactivating it

[harsh kernel]

what about the front port we were going to try?

[orchid pebble]

im doing that right now

i just wanted to check

wdym by setting it up again exactly?

make a new source?

[harsh kernel]

yes

[orchid pebble]

ok

[harsh kernel]

delete the old source and make a new one

[orchid pebble]

oh yeah weird

[orchid pebble]

oh i hadnt done that

right now without changing anything else its just as delayed as before

[harsh kernel]

try changing the frame rate to 50, then try 25

[orchid pebble]

should i not change the settings to whats recommended first?

[harsh kernel]

what are the recommended settings?

[harsh kernel]

i can barely read thart

that

in fact i can't make out what it says at all

[orchid pebble]

just zoom in

[harsh kernel]

i did, and the text is impossible to read

just a bunch of dots

[orchid pebble]

i mean i can read it fine but ok, ill try sending several screenshots

[harsh kernel]

how about you just tell me what it says

[orchid pebble]

thatd be a lot of text to write down

[harsh kernel]

the relevant bits then

[orchid pebble]

still

its easier to just screenshot

[harsh kernel]

okay

[orchid pebble]

only the bigger white overlayed text is relevant

[harsh kernel]

no idea but i can barely make out most of the text in those images

[orchid pebble]

oh come on

oh wait yeah that ones irrelevant anyways

its just 3 and 4 that talk about settings

[orchid pebble]

im just gonna... zoom in and screenshot it myself then for you

[harsh kernel]

let's try this: plug your switch directly into the monitor and tell me what FPS the monitor says the switch is outputting at

[harsh kernel]

okay

[orchid pebble]

you cant tell me you cant read that

[harsh kernel]

i can read that now

barely

but i can

[orchid pebble]

👍

so basically exactly the same as my pc

except hdmi instead of analog

also man did it feel good to be in the game without delay again xD

god its so annoying

i dont understand how anyone would be able to play like this

[harsh kernel]

okay, so you want the capture device set at 60 FPS. If that fails to work properly, we need to try the capture device on a different computer. if THAT fails to work properly, then you should return the capture device and exchange it for something else.

[orchid pebble]

even a less than a second delay is extremely noticable in videogames

[orchid pebble]

you already know the second thing is not an option :(

and when i put obs settings at 60 it made no difference

[harsh kernel]

do you have buffering turned on in OBS?

[orchid pebble]

idk what other capture card i would get. If the one that claims and has reviews saying theres no delay, has delay, then wtf am i supposed to do

[orchid pebble]

i dont even know what that is

[harsh kernel]

go into the video capture device settings

[orchid pebble]

idk if you mean this

[harsh kernel]

that's not what i mean

[surreal hornet]

Guys...

You guys are doing nothing to improve the situation

[orchid pebble]

i connected it back in the original port on the back btw

audio output capture doesnt work anymore tho

idk why

even when adding a new one

[surreal hornet]

You don't even use analog so what's the point of PAL

[harsh kernel]

show me the settings for the video input device

[surreal hornet]

It's also literally saying you have 60hz monitor

[orchid pebble]

if you know what we can do to improve the situation please do tell

[surreal hornet]

Yes, that's why I pinged you before

[orchid pebble]

this?

[harsh kernel]

yes

[orchid pebble]

and i already responded to you, most reviews talking about delay are specifically talking about streaming and viewing games

[surreal hornet]

You will have delay on this capture card, no matter what

[orchid pebble]

oh heck

i just opened the setting and the sound came back suddenly

weird

[surreal hornet]

Even if you have the correct setting it will still have delay

But you can improve it somewhat

[orchid pebble]

then why does everything tell me theres not?

[surreal hornet]

And do you have delay?

[orchid pebble]

im just frustrated because the only reason i bought this thing in the first place was because i was reassured that there WOULD be no delay

so it seems like IM specifically doing something wrong that everyone else isnt

[surreal hornet]

It's a cheap capture card, dude. There's a reason it's that cheap.

The capture card without delays are very expensive.

[orchid pebble]

so every single review, even the bad ones, are just lying for shits and giggles?

[surreal hornet]

You are reading Amazon reviews, they are as reliable as my mom's knowledge on computers

But look, you wanna setup this better or not?

Or a better solution is just returning this and buy a more expensive capture card

[orchid pebble]

yes but you make it seem like theres no way to make this playable in general

[surreal hornet]

because like I said, even with a better setup, it will still have a slight delay

[orchid pebble]

i dont know how small an input lag would have to be to be playable but id assume the answer would be, extremely small

[surreal hornet]

"Playable" is depend on how much you can tolerate the delay

For many people, they are willing to accept that to play it on the their laptop's monitor

[orchid pebble]

i dont know what person on earth would tolerate a delay even as small as half a second

[surreal hornet]

And for certain types of games, such as RPG, the delays don't matter

But for action, fast games like Smash for example, that is very annoying to play with

So yeah, I can help improving this somewhat, but there is no way to make it as exact like direct HDMI connection

[orchid pebble]

well no for that you could just plug in the hdmi cable directly. which i have done. The only reason i got the capture card was so that i could also casually stream it to friends when we're in vc without having to awkwardly film my monitor from the outside

[surreal hornet]

Ah I see, so that's your purpose

Well, there is a better solution for that

[orchid pebble]

any game that simply lets you control and walk around with your character will feel horrible even with small delay

[surreal hornet]

A better solution that this capture card, I meant

[orchid pebble]

what is it?

[surreal hornet]

I meant, that's a preference thing

[orchid pebble]

why would anyone prefer their character to feel unreactive unpredictable unreliable and sluggish?

[surreal hornet]

What you need is 2 separate functions, one to output the video/audio to your PC for streaming and another to output to your monitor.

[surreal hornet]

Again, that's a preference thing, if you want you can search this channel, I have helped several people doing that "better" setup before

But do you want to stay here and argue that or we move on?

[orchid pebble]

im just saying

[surreal hornet]

Yes yes, we all have our says, I tend to focus on solving issues realistic issues first, not opinion

[orchid pebble]

i find it hard to believe that anyone would want that but if its true then go off i guess who cares

[surreal hornet]

So what you need is either:

• A capture card with HDMI passthrough.
• OR a capture card use together with a HDMI splitter.

If you return this capture card, I can recommend you a different capture card with HDMI passthrough.

But if you don't want to return it, you can buy an additional HDMI splitter.

What this kind of setup will do is it gives you 2 outputs, one for your PC and another for your HDMI monitor.

The stream/recording on your PC will have delay, but it doesn't matter since you would play on your monitor via the 2nd output.

The 2nd output here is direct HDMI signal so it has no delays.

[orchid pebble]

which option do you think would be cheaper?

how much does a (FUNCTIONAL) hdmi splitter cost vaguely compared to a capture card with passthrough?

[surreal hornet]

Haha your market is different than mine

[orchid pebble]

that would be perfect

[surreal hornet]

so my gauge of price is eh, quite skewed

[orchid pebble]

true, but isnt there some general sort of price standard?

[surreal hornet]

Hmm

[orchid pebble]

like is it closer to 5 bucks or 20 bucks or 50 or 100

[surreal hornet]

The price for an additional HDMI splitter can be equal to a capture card with HDMI passthrough

[orchid pebble]

or is it like theres ones for 20 but theyre super bad and only the functional ones are like 100 which would just be the same deal as a capture card and therefore useless for me

[surreal hornet]

Not really, HDMI splitter is ancient tech

and it's rather solid

But you understand how it works, right?

[orchid pebble]

im looking on amazon and they seem to go for around 10 bucks

[surreal hornet]

Yeah, for me, the price of the normal cheap capture card is around 6 bucks

[orchid pebble]

somewhat yes

[surreal hornet]

and the capture card with HDMI passthrough is 8 bucks

[orchid pebble]

the one i got was 20

[surreal hornet]

for you it's much higher, of course

I'm living next to China

[orchid pebble]

i think ill just see what amazon says

[surreal hornet]

you have the, eh, what I call "Western market tax" x)

[orchid pebble]

sometimes they return your money without requiring you to send back the product

which would be lucky ofc xD

[surreal hornet]

Actually that would be ideal

[orchid pebble]

if they ask me to physically ship it then i think id probably be too lazy and just buy the separate hdmi splitter lol

[surreal hornet]

You want a recommendation on the capture card with HDMI passthrough?

[orchid pebble]

bruh i searched "capture card with HDMI passthrough" and the first thing it recommends me is literally the very same card we're talking about right NOW xD

[harsh kernel]

obviously that one doesn't have passthrough

[orchid pebble]

sure, idk if itll be on german amazon tho

[orchid pebble]

thanks a lot amazon 😂

[surreal hornet]

Damn these prices...

you guys literally have double the price

Get the one that looks like this:

Or this

It just have some audio input/output splitter, not that big of a deal

They are 8 bucks in my market lol

[orchid pebble]

these are the next two suggestions by amazon

the top one looks promising

[surreal hornet]

Have you ever looked at our streaming guide?

[tardy lagoon]

stream

CAPTURE CARD RECOMMENDATIONS

※ You will need a capture card and a computer to stream the Nintendo Switch.

• What is a capture card?

A capture card is a device that can take (capture) the video and audio output of the console and send it to the computer, where software can be used to record or stream the content onto Twitch, Youtube, Discord, etc...

• Recommended Capture Cards:
(Amazon listing & prices updated July 2020)
･ Elgato HD60 S - $199.99
･ Elgato HD60 PRO PCIE Card - $249.99
･ AVerMedia - Record without PC - $161.99
･ No brand - Budget option (Youtube link) - $10 - $35

This budget capture card is sold with different names through different sellers. We have tested several ones that were identical to each other. One was able to output 1080p@60fps while the other was 1080p@30fps, both can do 720p@60fps. It is, however, the cheapest capture card with acceptable quality on the market.

※ Be sure to read Our Streaming F.A.Q

Requested by BladeSpringSun#4133

[orchid pebble]

no

[surreal hornet]

The budget capture card here and these things

basically all capture card under 100 bucks

[orchid pebble]

itd basically cost me exactly the same as if i just bought the splitter

[surreal hornet]

they all use the same chip

[orchid pebble]

so i guess ill let customer support decide xD

[surreal hornet]

good luck then

meanwhile, wanna run an experiment?

I can try to give you a better setup for that capture card but via VLC

[orchid pebble]

off topic but i love the name "elgato" because i cant help but think of

https://tenor.com/view/el-gato-el-gato-cat-meme-el-gato-cat-el-gato-meme-dancing-gif-25760212

[surreal hornet]

They are pretty big in the capture card/streaming market

[orchid pebble]

via vlc?

[surreal hornet]

You have VLC installed?

[orchid pebble]

vlc media player?

[surreal hornet]

Yeah

[orchid pebble]

yes

[surreal hornet]

Check where is it installed on your PC

default is C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe

[surreal hornet]

Confirm the location of the install for me

eh right click that shortcut and choose "Open file location"

[orchid pebble]

its the shortcut tho- idk if thats different

[orchid pebble]

ok

[surreal hornet]

Then you can find where is it installed

My dude, your additional of "o" to OK is very appreciated 😛

[orchid pebble]

ok yeah its the same

[surreal hornet]

Alright

1 sec

[orchid pebble]

i would NEVER say just "k" 😂

[surreal hornet]

Download this

Click on this button to download:

This is a script to run VLC for your capture card

[orchid pebble]

i shall immediately download the strange file that cannot be scanned for viruses without question :)

[surreal hornet]

haha you can literally see its content right there

[orchid pebble]

yeah but me big stinky brain dont know what it means

[surreal hornet]

it's just a command line to start VLC using specific parameters

[surreal hornet]

Oh shoot I forgot

One sec

close that

and open VLC alone, nothing else

Then choose this menu

Your capture card is in this list:

The audio output of the capture card is in this list:

Can you note down the name of the capture card and its audio source?

I'll go change the file

you can also change this btw

But if you are not used to editing cmd then let me

[surreal hornet]

That's from you clicking OK?

[orchid pebble]

i just pressed play idk if i was supposed to do that aha 😅

[surreal hornet]

huh

ok one sec

[orchid pebble]

i dont think i am

unless its just me copy pasting in a command

[surreal hornet]

Weird why didn't it work for you

Go back to that menu again and see which selection works

it sounds correct for me

[orchid pebble]

omg what happened xD

i checked obs and it showed this lol, maybe i didnt put the switch back in the dock correctly, when i moved it back out and in again it worked fine again xD

sound mysteriously gone again tho until i open capture device settings again for some reason

oh well, i guess thats irrelevant

[surreal hornet]

Ok, try this file

Remember to close OBS

[orchid pebble]

u dont think having obs open as well is interfering with vlc?

[surreal hornet]

Of course haha

[orchid pebble]

ooop

welp

[surreal hornet]

the thing can't output to both

[orchid pebble]

then thats probably why xD

[surreal hornet]

Ok try that file

I hope I typed in the correct name

if not, we can take that from VLC again

[orchid pebble]

yeah it works now from doing that, havent downloaded the file ywet

[surreal hornet]

ok test the file

[orchid pebble]

closing vlc and opening your file now

[surreal hornet]

How's the delay?

[orchid pebble]

i think the input delay is even worse on here xD

[surreal hornet]

fuck lol

well it's an experiment

1 sec

The file previously is 1080p60fps

but this new one is 1080p30fps

try it

[orchid pebble]

uhhh

[surreal hornet]

ah just update, ignore it for now

[orchid pebble]

oke

[surreal hornet]

so how is it?

[orchid pebble]

about the same, maybe slightly better

[surreal hornet]

same thing, right? 😛

Yeah because I know the limit of your capture card

Ok now let's do some magic

On your Switch, go to System Settings > TV settings

then change resolution to 720p

And then download and run this one

This is 720p60fps

which is the best performance for your capture card

Tell me how it goes

One thing I know from these capture card is that no matter what they look like, what name they have, they all work exactly the same

[orchid pebble]

alrighty

thats interesting

[surreal hornet]

brb getting water

[orchid pebble]

this, right?

[orchid pebble]

ah okey

yeah its no better than obs haha

[surreal hornet]

Yeah that's correct

[orchid pebble]

i guess i didnt really expect it to be anyways

[surreal hornet]

Well, that's the best you can get, unfortunately

[orchid pebble]

except now everything looks like a jpeg xD

thats alright, ill see about getting an hdmi splitter or a capture card with pass through

thanks so much for all your help

[surreal hornet]

Yeah, you should change the TV resolution back

[orchid pebble]

doop too

[surreal hornet]

If you want to know how bad these things are

the capture card has a USB 3.0 name, right?

[orchid pebble]

i will do that xD

[surreal hornet]

but it isn't USB 3.0

it's just USB 2.0

[orchid pebble]

see i said that too xD the reviews told me as much

[surreal hornet]

they change the name and put a blue color jack/port on it ._.

[orchid pebble]

thats so dumb xD

i hope amazon can get me my money back lool

[surreal hornet]

1080p60fps will struggle through a USB 2.0 bandwidth

And their chip can't handle that

but they will advertise that performance

That's how the story goes

Alright, good luck with your HDMI passthrough capture card, it should work better

[orchid pebble]

👍

[orchid pebble]

@surreal hornet hey, sorry to bother you, but do you think these would be decent choices? https://www.amazon.de/Splitter-Aluminium-Switcher-Bi-Direction-Unterstützt/dp/B09CL5WQC3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2BOQ6ZX368YJ2&keywords=hdmi+splitter&qid=1680216090&refinements=p_72%3A419117031%2Cp_36%3A-1000&rnid=389294011&s=ce-de&sprefix=%2Celectronics%2C81&sr=1-3
https://www.amazon.de/Aluminium-Bidirektionaler-Manueller-Umschalter-unterstützt/dp/B09F9841JB/ref=sr_1_10?crid=2BOQ6ZX368YJ2&keywords=hdmi+splitter&qid=1680216090&refinements=p_72%3A419117031%2Cp_36%3A-1000&rnid=389294011&s=ce-de&sprefix=%2Celectronics%2C81&sr=1-10

if you cant really say thats ok id understand that too 👍

[surreal hornet]

Try brand like ugreen, baseus or aukey

[harsh kernel]

@orchid pebble I can vouch for ugreen stuff — everything of theirs I’ve tried works well

[orchid pebble]

i will try to see what i can find

theres this but its a bit pricy for my liking

looking for baseus just gives me

and looking for aukey doesnt seem to give me anything

[harsh kernel]

€17 is too much??

[orchid pebble]

i mean im trying to stay under the price that buying a capture card with hdmi passthrough would cost lol

idk i mean the cheap ones have good reviews though

i mean so did the capture card

but i cant think of anything obvious like latency that could go completely wrong no?

i bought a cheap audio splitter cable and a cheap denoisifer underground loop thingy whatever its called and both worked perfectly fine

[orchid pebble]

i mean if you think theres a high chance these are trash lmk but otherwise i think ill just give them a go

[orchid pebble]

17 bucks is basically already what the capture card itself cost, i dont really wanna pay DOUBLE that just so it actually works

especially when it seems like theres cheaper options that appear to work just fine

but like i said if you think theres any inherent big risks with that lmk

obviously if its doomed to fail like cheap capture cards are ill just have to pay more

oh nice i i can get a used one for cheaper

thatd def be my next choice then if you say 6-9 dollar ones are hopeless

oh and another question though

do i need another hdmi cable for this or something?

[harsh kernel]

probably. amazonbasics are cheap and reliable

[orchid pebble]

dang, that cements even more that i wanna get a very cheap hdmi splitter lol

[surreal hornet]

Is waiting an issue for you? Why not just buy the capture card from Aliexpress?

[orchid pebble]

welp

apparently what i ended up biyng was a fkn dhmi SWITCH splitter

which does the OPPOSITE of what i needed

uughhhhhhhhhh..

in fact most products amazon shows you when searching for hdmi splitters are actually SWITCH splitters

so fkn annoying..

i searched in for 1 in 2 out specifically and its still giving me a bunch of switch splitters although some of them clain they do 1 in 2 out as well???

idek anymore, this is so confusing

[surreal hornet]

This is a common thing, unfortunately.
In my experience, you just have to check the product's description for each one to know ._.'

[orchid pebble]

😩

[orchid pebble]

BRUH

wtf does amazon want from me

[surreal hornet]

It has been months since this thread starts, you haven't been able to find a HDMI splitter? 0_o

[orchid pebble]

i havent been searching for it until recently again

i think i found one now but im gonna make a new thread for it cause its been so long

[surreal hornet]

It's ok, you can post the one you found here I can check for you

I'm just simply surprised you haven't done it sooner haha

[orchid pebble]

i already did it and figured it out earlier xD but thank you

ended up working flawlessly so yay! i can finally properly use my capture card without lag