#Recomend me custom JoyCon shell with the D-Pad, please.

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Only good brand is extremeRate.

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Why do you think the issue describe there happened?

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Haha...

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Because it wasn't meant to be

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The joycon's D-pad wasn't a D-pad to begin with, it was designed for separate button, not an actual D-pad

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You can put a new button layout on it but it doesn't change the underlying component of the board.

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That's not what the joycon's board is

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Let me elaborate

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Yes, I even reshell a few

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What else?

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They way D-pad works is that it has a stem acting as the center point, the "arrows" would rock back and forth on each direction. Below, a board with different contact points will be "met" with the arrows on top.

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It's the middle highest point of the D-pad, acting as a balancing center

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The Joycon doesn't have any of this design.

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It has a tactile, actual button, low profile ones though

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yes, but that's not the most important part

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the important part is the board below it

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It's entirely different from what was required for D-pad to work

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The pro controller has these contact below

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See what I meant by contacts?

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They are electrical contacts, you touch it with something, it bridge the connection, register an input

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And you know what these are?

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And why are you surprised it doesn't work the same way?

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...Simply put, they are different

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You won't be able to find any other shell with the same quality as extremeRate though. Other shells will work OK, but you will run into some fitting issues during the process.

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But eh, up to you, good luck.

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I did, it's just not as good as an actual D-pad

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The other buttons are fine, just like the original.

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It simply doesn't have the same feeling.

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Like I have said before, it's not even designed to be a D-pad

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You have to click

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The joycon's face buttons are clicky to begin with, so even if you replace it to be D-pad, you will have a clicky D-pad

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This is my just distilling what I have said previously.

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D-pad, for me, should be smoother.

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It's not exactly personal reference, I mostly compare it to full-size controller. Since it's still a type of separate controller.

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And if that's your preferences, do you think a clicky D-pad is a bad thing?

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your "reference" to be more precise

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Then I guess you don't mind clicky D-pad on the joycon?

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hmm

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You are asking a lot, eh?

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Well, if I say it this way

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It's fine to play most games

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But you will run into issues if you require precise inputs for classical fighting games that requires continuous combos using d-pad

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Nowadays, such games are rare

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No gray? I thought there was a gray version.

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Soft-touch though

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If you compare the reshelled joy-con D-pad, it's something on the same line with old handheld console, yes. But it's not that precise nor accurate compare to good D-pad controller such as 8bitdo offerings or separate D-pad like DS4.

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If you want to get that type of shell, it would be mostly for aesthetic than improving its function.

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Because the result of a D-pad on joycon would be the same as its original design. In fact, I'd argue the D-pad create more inaccurate inputs.

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Ah they do have black but not the same shade of gray

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No, I haven't tried to DIY a d-pad for joycon

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I reckon it's not an easy endeavor

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You jus have to keep looking

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The black one is really black

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It's not like there are choices, unfortunately.
There is extremeRate and generic, no name ones.

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The latter often has issues, like I have described.

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So yeah,... either extremeRate or those no-name ones ._.'
There isn't any competition in this field.

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Unless you want to get some very very expensive custom one

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like 3D printed or CNC ones

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Oh if you search around and see Basstop, it's literally the generic ones, but Basstop put a name on it for the US market lol

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Did I mention the D-pad on these are not actual D-pad?

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I remember telling someone recently about it but forgot who

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Well, I can't really comment on the texture, some people like it, some don't

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Haha technically, they are kinda correct because that's what they meant to do

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it's just not suitable for you

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The coating is rubberize material

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The transparent one is just plastic without the coating

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Unfortunately, that's the best one you can buy

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But that's how aftermarket part is like

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they are never perfect

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Although I really hate it, but I have to say the original joycon does justify the price

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Because they applied a lot of tech inside that controller

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Even the shell has a special coating that provide texture and protecting the plastic

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You won't find something like that with aftermarket stuffs

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Maybe they did, but they didn't choose to

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Hori has one, but it lacks features

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You can buy other aftermarket shells if you want, there are some clone ones

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The clone one has less precision compare to extremeRate, but doesn't have any special coating

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Buy a flush cutter, you may need it to cut the imperfect part out

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Instead of relying on aftermarket shell, ever think about modding the original shell to use extremeRate's D-pad?

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why not use extremeRate's D-pad?

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you already have one

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Maybe you can modify it, up to you

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spare parts like those wiiu d-pad are available on the market, too

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ah that's a problem

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Not sure how accessible 3D printer for you but creating these things is child play on them

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or you can just create the stem and stick it on with some glue

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yeah

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The entire D-pad

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Tbh I don't like sticking a stem on a d-pad, it might break.
A whole D-pad with stem already built on it would be more durable.

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Although...

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this is hidden under the joycon

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I know some glue that's really strong that might work for that kind of project

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It's the middle thingy

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kinda like a stick

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add the pivot for the d-pad

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pivot haha

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Most of the time people call it a stem

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Because it will feel the most weight when you use it

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It's the center, that's why

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Maybe, remember that the weight you put on that stem is never straight

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it's from an angle at all time

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so your finger rotating around that d-pad is basically creating leverage to break that stem off

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If you want to go the gluing route, then you need to think about some really strong glue

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JBWeld epoxy for example

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up to you, I'm just theorizing

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JBweld for the glue

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I disagree with that. Try to test it on a normal D-pad on a DS for example.

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The stem

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if you want to add that pivot action on a normal d-pad without a stem

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then you need to glue one on

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but it's weaker compare to a d-pad with a stem

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Haha up to you

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The thing is that's how it works. You don't have to press on it for it to take pressure.

It's always taking pressure, no matter where you are pressing.

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But it's quite shallow, maybe it's not that big of a deal

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eh but it's up to you, it's not like you have even started doing it yet

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so wait till you have a concrete plan

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Well, then go do it

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if you found issues, then adjust later

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no the pivot breaking...

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Put that d-pad you are holding on a flat surface

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and try to rock it back and forth

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tell me if at any point there would be no pressure on the stem

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lmao don't pull the trust me bro move

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When you are experimenting, doubt is your allies

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not absolution

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Yeah but I only worry about it if the stem is glued on

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If it's part of the injection molded d-pad then you have nothing to worry about

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Depends on what solutions you want for that d-pad

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like I keep saying

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worry about it if it's glued on

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eh pic?

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Sure that can work, too

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If the d-pad is fit snugly enough, it can use that

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If you know how to work with epoxy, use them instead

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they are harder

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but epoxy is impossible to remove though, comapare to hot glue

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hot glue isn't epoxy

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but yeah you are right, hotglue can be pretty hard

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This is either extremeRate's or a clone

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If you pick a random one like this then who knows lol

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Most often they dont have a big stem

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I did try a few clones but they don't have d-pad

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The only clone I tried with a d-pad was actually not for joycon, that one was terrible.
But I guess it's not related

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Oh good point, then buy spare buttons from the Lite

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And you put it back on the extremeRate's joycon's shell to test?