Both pairs of joycons pictured will not stay connected to nintendo switch, and sometimes eat inputs | /r/NintendoSwitch | Page 1

urban drift Oct 8, 2022, 8:58 PM

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The joycons pictured in this post seem to show signs of an expanding battery, but dont seem to have a battery problem. i am sure my contacts are clean, since they work perfectly otherwise. it affects right stick, motion controls, and any input. distance dosent make a difference, only higlights the problem more

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@jade leaf ^

urban drift Oct 8, 2022, 9:23 PM

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if i have it ultra close together, it works fine

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 12:10 AM

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urban drift The joycons pictured in this post seem to show signs of an expanding battery, bu...

Does changing the location of the Switch help?

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Move the Switch to a different location then test the connection again

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 12:11 AM

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when i use the cons undocked with the switch close, it seems better, but from playing sp3 on some levels, i have noticed the problem (specifically on the no weapon no sub dangerous dancefloor level in splatoon 3)

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 12:14 AM

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so it does happen as well in that state?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 2:37 AM

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yes, but the bluetooth dosent disconnect, bur on high input things it will cut out some inputs

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@jade leaf ^ this is a recently noticed problem

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 2:51 AM

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urban drift <@84771594655784960> ^ this is a recently noticed problem

Try doing this process below

icy pierBOT Oct 9, 2022, 2:51 AM

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xpair

HOW TO DELETE & RECONNECT CONTROLLER PAIRING

§ This is a method to reset controllers pairing information and can fix various controllers' connection issues. If you do not have a functional right Joy-con, you can use a different controller such as a Pro controller.

※ With the Switch console in handheld mode.
1. Detach/Disconnect all the Joy-Con and controllers from the Nintendo Switch console.
2. From the HOME Menu, select System Settings ⚙️ > Controllers and Sensors > Disconnect Controllers.
3. Hold down the “X” Button on the right Joy-Con until the blue circle is fully illuminated.
4. Attach or connect any Joy-con and controllers you want to pair to the console.

※ Update the controllers' firmware can fix several issues.

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 2:51 AM

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And then, after you are done, don't pair every single joycon into that Switch yet.

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Pair them one by one, while doing the input test of the very first joycon.

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See if at any point, the problem starts to surface.

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You can also do the test with other joycon that connect after the first joycon.

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The Switch's bluetooth is also shite. It's very susceptible to interference, even with its own bluetooth devices. This is to test if it was the case.

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But there's also a wireless chip that has soldering joints failing so often due to thermal expansion and various reasons. So yeah.

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If you see the issue even when there's a single pair of joycon connected to the Switch then we can see that as a possible cause.

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 2:54 AM

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im currently in a short range condition, so we can see. im about to repair my frequent use (blue/red) pair

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@jade leaf this test was done on a single controller, hitting two buttons at the same time. they sometimes register consequitivley, while sometimes not. this might be normal, idk though

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 2:59 AM

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eh don't test that haha

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What you need to test is the delay or wrong input

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and be careful not to overheat your Switch blocking the back vent like that

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 3:01 AM

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its normally not blocked like that

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 4:01 AM

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@jade leaf i have been running my game-based test for a bit, now its exaggerated. i have updated firmware previously

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 4:20 AM

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urban drift <@84771594655784960> i have been running my game-based test for a bit, now its e...

But have you disconnect all the remaining joycon to test?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 4:45 AM

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jade leaf But have you disconnect all the remaining joycon to test?

yes, its only this pair thats connected

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 4:45 AM

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a single pair and it's still happening...

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Can you test when it's attached to the Switch directly?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:13 AM

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yes, its a little better, but i have also had it happen there

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:33 AM

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@jade leaf ^ i was using it connected too after i noticed it in the non connected, so while connected, it got a little better but not completley better. its most noticable if i do a certain splatoon campaign level, and i have had this happen during splatoon battles. (not since reset though, i can easily test motion now

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:34 AM

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game test isn't that accurate, can you test input in the settings?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:36 AM

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how? i have looked, i have done morion calibration and checked sticks, bothe seem good, and i wouls notice drifting from splatoon for sure

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im checking left stick for drift now

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stick seems to be fine to me @jade leaf

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:48 AM

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urban drift how? i have looked, i have done morion calibration and checked sticks, bothe see...

Eh we are just testing button input, not drifting

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What I meant is you need to go into the Button input test and use it as a delay test

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Because in game, you have other factors in play, it's hard to tell if there's any actual delay

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While in the input test, there's mostly the menu, less factors, more accurate testing

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:49 AM

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how should i do an accurate test?

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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Test Input Devices

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You already know how to get into it

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:50 AM

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urban drift <@84771594655784960> this test was done on a single controller, hitting two butt...

It's this screen right here

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Don't test any random stuffs, just simply test the delay between your actual button press and what appear on screen

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You came here with an issue of bluetooth connection and lag in input test. I have given you the steps to test it out, from this line onward: #1028411205762691143 message

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You need to go through it correctly. Otherwise there's no accurate data to consider.

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Don't go in tangent too much. And again, game test is very inaccurate. Sometime it can even be lag from internet connection, not an accurate measurement of bluetooth connection.

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:54 AM

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i cant percove any problems. and my main tests were from non-internet dependdnt play

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and, they joycons are up to date

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:54 AM

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The firmware doesn't play much of a factor here

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Did you notice any increment of delay or issues appearing when you connect more and more joycon?

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The reason why the test includes connecting more and more joycon while testing is to test bluetooth connection load.

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The Switch has a limit of how many bluetooth devices it can connect to. But realistically, it will get worse as more devices connecting into it.

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:56 AM

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so far, i have only tried a single pair. should i grab my second pair and go test with another con? and when i have had the problem, theres only been one pair active

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:56 AM

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Of course ><

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:56 AM

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give me a second to grab them, then

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:57 AM

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Geez man, I gave you the test instructions, and the reasoning behind it. There's no use if you don't actually carry out the test.

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 5:58 AM

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let me grab the other set, i didnt know you wanted me to add them

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sorry

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 5:58 AM

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No worry, it's your time to waste haha

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I'm just glancing to this windows while working

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How old is your Switch again?

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And your joycon, too.

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:00 AM

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i got them both december 2020

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1 and 1/2 sets is currently making the connection struggle

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@jade leaf ^ and thats without any other bluetooth connected

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can confirm, im detecting input lag with 2 whole sets connected. i have also experinced “in game” input lag with only a single set

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:09 AM

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hmm

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Only 2 pairs and already like that

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Ok can you go through these steps one more but with a different order

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As in, you remove the pairing of all the sets again

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but this time, use a different pair of joycon as the first set to pair in

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and then keep pairing new sets then test again

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This is to see if the problem only happen on certain pair of joycon

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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so clear again, and try the other set, then mix and match, if possible?

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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If it really happens to all pairs then you have a very spicy hardware issue ._.'

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:11 AM

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urban drift so clear again, and try the other set, then mix and match, if possible?

Yep

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If possible, use an entirely different pair altogether for the first set to pair and the 2nd set to pair.

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:13 AM

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urban drift i got them both december 2020

December 2020. So I guess it's a v2? Red box?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:13 AM

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1/2 of seconr pair: blazing smooth

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:13 AM

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jade leaf December 2020. So I guess it's a v2? Red box?

its an -01, and it was red box

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:13 AM

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alright v2

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:14 AM

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second feels fine, adding first slowly

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:14 AM

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huh

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ok keep adding until you found a pair that make it slow down

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:15 AM

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second set feels fine for now adding the og set now

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:15 AM

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how many pair of joycon do you have?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:15 AM

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2 pairs

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:15 AM

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Ah ok

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:16 AM

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red joycon seems to be the one slowing it down, i think

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:16 AM

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Ok try to remove them all again, then pair everything back except that red joycon

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:17 AM

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huh. matching pairs reverse pair prder seems to do just fine

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:17 AM

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Sounds like that red joycon was causing issue?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:18 AM

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red is paired currently. idk what the problem is, im thinking its time for mix and match

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@jade leaf ^

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:20 AM

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Keep testing, see if everything is fine or not

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If you encounter delay, try turning off that red joycon by pressing the pairing button on the rail of it once

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and then test again

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:24 AM

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huh. its really weird

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:24 AM

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tell me the result or any strange signs you see

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:25 AM

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this combination of controllers exactly just dosent feel right, theres a little sluggish communications shown by the switch

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red/purple without yellow does just fine

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adding blue to yellow also makes it feel fine

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:27 AM

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blue+yellow+purple has any problem?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:28 AM

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let me change

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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further, slower testing seems to show that 2 inputs are getting aten with just blue and yellow

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:31 AM

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aten?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:32 AM

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they dont show on the test screen

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:32 AM

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ah eaten you meant

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is there a particular button that it happens on often?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:33 AM

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how i determined this was reset, press 4 buttons at same time on a blank test screen. most of the time only 3 or 2 of 4 show up. it alternates. some even press twice sometimes

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well, not twice

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:34 AM

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multiple press at the same time, especially more than 2, can give false result

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but test to see if the problem appear on certain buttons more

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maybe it's the buttons that was the fault, ya know

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:36 AM

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it seems like something to do with the clicky button they used

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they should have considered membrane maybe

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 6:37 AM

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That's why I said don't test multiple button presses

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because it may give false inputs

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we are testing for bluetooth delay

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just one button being pressed continuously is enough

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 6:41 AM

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one comtrller with repeated presses on a single button, but two on same button and it jams up

jade leaf Oct 9, 2022, 1:15 PM

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urban drift one comtrller with repeated presses on a single button, but two on same button a...

Haha it would jam up if you give it a duplicate input like that.

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Try testing if when they attach, do they still have the same issue?

urban drift Oct 9, 2022, 1:46 PM

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give me a sec

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 1:55 AM

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@jade leaf so you want me to test one attached one not, yes? if so i can do it after im done my school work thats due at 8:30am tomorrow

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 3:17 AM

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it feels slower than wireless, comparing the same singular controller.

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(red jcon, short range

jade leaf Oct 10, 2022, 6:42 AM

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urban drift <@84771594655784960> so you want me to test one attached one not, yes? if so i c...

Yeah, mostly I want to see if that red joycon can have a different experience while it's attached.

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If the experience is the same then it's not the wireless connection.

jade leaf Oct 10, 2022, 6:42 AM

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urban drift (red jcon, short range

red joycon, still wireless mode?

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 6:56 AM

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yep. red wirless (only one on wirless, others either switch docked or off

jade leaf Oct 10, 2022, 7:15 AM

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urban drift yep. red wirless (only one on wirless, others either switch docked or off

test with the red joycon attached then

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 7:16 AM

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ok, just give me a little im taking a break since i just finished a school assignment

jade leaf Oct 10, 2022, 7:17 AM

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no worry, take your time

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 5:38 PM

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the red jcon docked is only a touch more fast than undocked

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tiny bit more fast

jade leaf Oct 10, 2022, 6:25 PM

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Eh now it's hard to even know if it's the real reason

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The pairing reset may have done something but test to see if everything is at an acceptable level now

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as in playing wirelessly, does it still affect your gameplay

urban drift Oct 10, 2022, 8:49 PM

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i would need to replay the level i was having issues on. we will see later on, ill trh and keep this updated

urban drift Oct 12, 2022, 2:50 PM

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@jade leaf i just got a screwdriver that can open theese, and it seems like the blue one is fine battery expansion wise

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nvm, the blue battery is not fine

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theres a ridge on the battery casing

jade leaf Oct 12, 2022, 3:22 PM

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urban drift theres a ridge on the battery casing

ridge? can you take a pic of that?

urban drift Oct 12, 2022, 3:23 PM

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ye gimme a sec

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@jade leaf

jade leaf Oct 12, 2022, 3:37 PM

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urban drift <@84771594655784960>

Hmm I don't think it's anything bad

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Some uniformity on the outer layer?

urban drift Oct 12, 2022, 3:38 PM

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my other one is perfectly flat (red jcon). the outer layer seems fine on other sides.

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this one has also been thw most beat-up

jade leaf Oct 12, 2022, 3:40 PM

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It's not to a point that you need to worry.... yet

urban drift Oct 12, 2022, 3:42 PM

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when should i worry, then?

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i think i will worry.

jade leaf Oct 12, 2022, 3:54 PM

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urban drift when should i worry, then?

It doesn't look like a balloon then no worry

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Out of the factory, battery can have some cosmetic defect

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I have seen one with the plastic wrapper a bit bunched up into a line, but if it doesn't break anything inside then not much to worry

#Both pairs of joycons pictured will not stay connected to nintendo switch, and sometimes eat inputs