#builder-base-strategy
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moved some tho
mortar to roaster spot
tesla to mortar spot
roaster to tesla spot
Not a bad base, although bombers at 12o'clock could
open up the entire too layer of the base and give access to barbs,giants,cannon carts, super pekkas ect... To easily 2-star that base. But the multi-mortar,roaster and giant cannon seem to be in a really good spot to counter those types of attacks.
if u guys want the best BH 7 base ive made (anti everything) hmu
Tips?
Why do you have so big core
@remote iron
This very easy
Even for mass barb attack
Huh
Found this one is it good with rushed def
Ok
I will share
Ultimatepotatos base
Open link in Clash of Clans or download the game.
What do you guys think about it?
Nope
I want some rates not if you want to use it or not
Yea I know is normal
anyone got a good bh6 antiwitch? all I've tried failed.
@magic matrix By far the best base design I've seen, if that's not a internet base then your very good at making bases.
I don't find any major issues with your base. All I would change is switching the giant cannon with one of the centered Air defense. Other than that awesome base 10/10
Its poop
Builder bases don't rlly matter
Mostly its just how well u can attack the other person
Its poop
@lavish garnet explain
Builder bases don't rlly matter
Mostly its just how well u can attack the other person
@fluid river Half true half not but if your base gets tripled every time then your never going to bounce up higher trophies, attacking, base design and how well upgraded your base is, equally matters as much.
^
Try doing 10 battles with a normal base, then do 10 battles with a progress base. See if you win ANY using the progress base
I do not like
So, the base is still very good
@magic matrix By far the best base design I've seen, if that's not a internet base then your very good at making bases.
I don't find any major issues with your base. All I would change is switching the giant cannon with one of the centered Air defense. Other than that awesome base 10/10
@magic matrix thx really much and yeah I built it myself
No problem, keep up the great work
Rate my 2 bases
Not the right channel for 1
2 isn’t terrible, could move more high hp buildings (storages, lab, clocktower) closet to defenses that can cover and away from undefended areas
Gimme feedback, never looked at a BH guide & it’s homemade
very good
keep ur bombs on the inside
those outer walls have nothing protecting them at 12 and at 9
@noble isle looks vulnerable to hog gliders with all your firecrackers on the outside of the base. you can use one to take out the 10 o clock cannon, then 2-3 more to take out both the lavalauncher and the roaster easily
most of your heavy defenses seem to be in the first layer of walls too
i think push trap placement is good, none are pushing anything into bombs but also some are being pushed into a place where only 1 defense is in range of the pushed troops
@random marsh same for you, push trap placement is quite good except for the 11 o clock push trap into a spring trap, tho your spring traps seem to be pretty concentrated at 6
guard post placement is good, near giant cannons, crushers, and roaster as well
those walls at 11 and 5 dont seem to be doing anything
is there any bb7 guides out there? or any guides for the bb in general
no
?
Builder base guides are extremely hard to find because it's not something people have fun with
But also
I need help
I dont know how to attack
I was told just spam one thing
But I always end up getting below 30%
I like baby drags minions @rancid wasp
How shit is it, I had to make a custom base with a tree in it
no
lmao
rushed af 😂
looking for good BH5 base
@timber walrus ^ bst?
base layout
lol
why are all the top bb players have a base that is one compartment
is that meta for bh9
no idea
Anyone got a bh7 base
Yas
@pearl pollen Yes, it seems to be that way. I think it's because the defenses matter more than the walls, so when the defenses are all crammed together anything in the base will be hit by more defenses at once
no
New bh8 from completely max 7. The gap in the middle of the base is supposed to be the mtesla
Feedback would be appreciated. Havent made a base in a while
Most likely gold pass, Maxing it f2p is possible but would take forever since in builder base you get very little loot.
d
ok
kiwi i have a base that works at bh8
move mortar to roaster spot
tesla to mortar spot
roaster to tesla spot
top double cannon to right cannon
right cannon to air bomb
air bomb to top double cannon
lol
it works
Does OTTO do anything before lvl 5? Is he a second builder in the early phase? Or is he just “there”
It only start functioning as a builder after reaching lv 5
Before that it will do nothing
is there a guide to this builder base? I just started playing this game again and the builder base didn't exist back then lol
Like I heard it unlocks a sixth builder? How long does it take to accomplish that?
Takes a really long time
First you gotta get to bh9
Then you gotta build the Otto hut
Then you gotta gear up 1 mortar, 1 cannon, and one archer tower in the home village
Then you gotta upgrade the Otto hit to level 2
Then you gotta get your cannon carts to level 18
Then you upgrade the Otto hut to level 3
Then you gotta upgrade your mega Tesla to level 9
And upgrade your Otto hut to level 4
Then you get your battle machine to level 30
And then you upgrade the Otto hut to level 5
And now you have a sixth builder!
This is gonna take years for f2p
Is the sixth builder really worth it
wow
thanks. That helps a lot
I'm not f2p though so I think it will be worth it for me in the long run
I need to take an SS of this lol
Lol
No problem
also try this https://clashguideswithdusk.net/builder-base-guides/
“Most important advice: Rush to bh9 ASAP.”
Quote from the introduction to builder base page
#townhall9
lol. Duly noted
There's only 1 builder base guide lol, made by SinOfDusk
Why are people even upvoting Karamus base, it's straight up trash. There's no way you could get to 3500 trophies with that base lol.
Bases like that are so common... open bases that can easily be super pekka charged
My base is bad as lobster got cook
This is gonna take years for f2p
Not really, I’m going to get mine in just under one year from when I started
@magic matrix you can get it in about a year or so if you try for it
What’s the max level battle machine for bh8?
I think it’s 25
Rate it
8
👀
double cannons are too close to each other
Yeah i get wrecked by super pekkas but only when I cross the 3200 trophy mark
But it’s free real estate for 3200 and below
Builder Base needs a F'Ning UPDATE!
no
Yes
no
Yes
yes
i have no idea how to bbbb
bbbbbh9 is just 1 compartment lol
Can someone share some th11 war bases in my clan please
lol you're not supposed to ask for bases here
Haha
I really enjoyed bh7. So i took the time to max it out.
Anyway i was seeing how high i could push. Got to 3070 as a bh7 last month
What should I upgrade
Get roaster to max, it literally roasts every troop.
Can anybody give me tips on bh4 building
sadly there's no guides on bhbb
because its one of the most powerful defenses
wrecks barbs, bats, minions, bombers, basically everything that isnt a tank
It's actually, by far the strongest defense in builder base, it attacks ground and air, has enormous splash damage and deals a lot of damage. The only troop that it isn't very effective against is Super Pekka, and even then it still deals decent damage to super Pekka when it's maxed out.
P.S
Some may argue that the lava launcher is stronger but it only targets ground, while the roaster attacks ground and air
I dont like builder base. I want my shipp to break. So I cant visit
lava launcher is better than roaster 10/10
Mega Tesla = best builder base defense
w a l l
i just got the builder base like 2 hours ago and already maxed out bh2
lava launcher is better than roaster 10/10
This is actually not true, it really depends on the attack
Lava launcher is useless against dropship minion
But superior against witches and cannon carts
And mass baby dragons is a really popular attack at 3.5k+
Overall roaster is better than lava launcher for countering various attack
How’s this base?
How Can I max my builder Base Fast !
@edgy forge you dont, not without paying. the best way is to rush to builder hall 9, max out collectors and storages, use baby dragons the whole way, they're the only consistently good troop
@grand trench it's quite good, there's not much to improve, though that 6 oclock giant bomb is a bit exposed. no flaws that i can see, maybe if i was a better player lol
@edgy forge you dont, not without paying. the best way is to rush to builder hall 9, max out collectors and storages, use baby dragons the whole way, they're the only consistently good troop
@dense ridge baby dragons?!
what how
how do u even use baby dragons properly in builder base
No u don't
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I since bb is basically for the 6th builder ...and u have to max out the canon cart ...I prefer using them with night witches and giants
I hover at 3k
Since I rushed everything else
night witches are good at bh7 but not any farther than that lol
they get wrecked by the lava launcher too
Yep ...
U know that there us always a blind spot only for lava launcher
So I just put one giant there
So once it locks on it ...I go full on from the other side
It takes nearly 3 minimum shots to take out that solo giant by that time the I take out the other half
It's like a distraction/suicide giant
huh
Someone was telling me to rush to bh9 for more loot, should I?
Most of my stuff is till bh7 level
@grand trench replace the air bomb and the lava launcher, it's going to protect the sides of you're base very well.
Someone was telling me to rush to bh9 for more loot, should I?
@magic matrix yes, the lava launcher makes a huge difference on your defense, making night witches and cannon carts a lot easier to take out and bumping you a couple more trophies higher.
you should upgrade that battle machine to level 5 before you do any lab upgrade
@fiery lily It's like the eagle artillery/single inferno. It has huge range and it's damage increases each time. It's the strongest ground defense in builder base.
The lava launcher used to be insanely strong that it was given a nerf, it's still very strong as it is. Recking night witches and cannon carts
wait wtf its damage increases???
Yes
Up to a maximum of whatever level it is
Example:
Lvl 1 lava launcher deals a starting 1 damage and a maximum of 160 damage.
It's damage increases rapidly from 1,10,20,30... Up to 160, dealing 160 damage per second when at it's maximum damage rate, acting as a single inferno. Therefore upgrading it will decrease the amount of time it takes for it to charge up and deal more damage when at it's maximum damage rate, upgrading it will also increase it's maximum damage
Everyone hates it's, it counters every ground troop that used to be meta
Especially cannon carts 😪
Yes, they should reduce the amount of damage lava launcher deals to cannon carts, or simply add more hp to carts.
I’d do pekka cart from 1-2 o clock with bombers
Hey I'm stuck around 3800, attacking with maxed carts, pekka, archers, and BM
Should I change my base layout? Or my attack strat?
I think it’s a solid base
But I’m ready for the next builder hall
Should I stay
And upgrade
Or go and move on
I have
Don't use sneaky archers
1 runes for elixer and gold
And book of building
@magic matrix what should I use them
Also
I’m trying to destroy buildings
It’s a challenge
You can use mass barbs, baby drags or giant/cannon. Sneaky archers isn't really viable at bh7+
Giant cannon counters them
Or a high level roaster
You can also try out hog gliders, but they're really expensive to upgrade and I heard they're better off when maxed out
@barren edge your bombs arent placed well, what are those mini bombs in the corner doing?? they're all concentrated on the northeast side and you dont have any ground set bombs which wouldnt be a problem if a few bombers anywhere from 4oclock to 8oclock couldnt create an easy path into the base.
the lava launcher is directly targetable by hog gliders, some of the spring traps wont actually be triggered. mostly your base is pretty strong, though it could use some improvement
@fiery lily keep your guard post inside the base always, try and keep it near crushers and the roaster for maximum effectiveness
Thanks!!!
nope
Lava launcher is useless in my cannon cart attack tho
I surround the opposite side with 7 carts to guarentee 1 star and tank the lava
And send bomber +bm and rest of carts for the 2 star
All carts is only effective at 3.2k trophies, you won't get past that unless you use something different
i got to 3.5 k with pure luck
Hmm, nice. What trophy range are you at rn?
Nethier
Both bad bases for war
Those are easy 3 stars
Focus on protecting town hall not clan castle
Bruh
@elder laurel this is builder base channel
im bored does anyone wanna help me make a builder hall guide on google docs or something
Can anyone tell me why I’m stuck at around 3300 trophies for the longest time now? Been able to upgrade a lot of my defenses and my BM from like 15 to 21. I’m still stuck here. Every time I get close to breaking 3400 trophies I start getting 3 starred by max pekka spam with max BM
how's your base and what builder hall are you?
I’m a somewhat rushed BH9
I just figured after making so many upgrades I could finally push past 3400
have you tried watching replays to see the parts of your base that the pekka attackers take advantage of?
Seems like they shred my whole base tbh. My double cannons didn’t even do much after like 2 upgrades
2 of them got 2 upgrades. The 3rd one only one upgrade
@dry merlin Try upgrading or maxing out your Mega Tesla and crushers they're the best counters against super pekkas.
I’ll do that next
You're gonna need to max out your Mega Tesla for Otto anyways, so it's incredibly worth it
What level are crushers?
Only 5 and 6
Same here 🤣
Try getting them to level 7
They get a dramatic change
I'm upgrading my roaster to max
5 days left before lvl 9
Nice. Mine are somewhat behind
Most of my defenses are around 5-6. Except my double cannons are like 7-8
And then my mortar and mega Tesla are max
rushed bh9 starter pack: level 8 roaster somehow?? uses level 2 pekkas level 1 battle machine
Can I talk about how to get out of a rushed base here or is it #builder-base-attacking
Here is fine
Is there any tournament of builder base?
hi
how is this base
Hmm, multi-mortar and roaster is easily accessible by carts if the opponent successfully opens a single wall layer with bombers, which is easy. The bottom row, from the double cannon up to the double Tesla's by the roaster can easily be wiped out by a couple of tanks and carts. And a super Pekka could easily get a lot of value from it's explosion ability right where the centered air cracker and mega Tesla is and destroy a Tesla, deal heavy damage to the roaster, destroy your mega tesla, deal some damage to your builder hall, crusher and guard post. Try to spread out you're buildings to minimize the value from super pekkas explosion ability, and making your splash damage defenses difficult to access.
@dense ridge
No problem
Soo is there any point of having Otto between 1-4? I know 5 gives a second builder and there are “tasks” you need to do to get the levels but what does he do before that? Why isn’t it just “you need 30 BM all buildings geared 18 cannons and lvl 9 Tesla to build otto”
So is rushing to max Builder Hall level still ideal?
And matchmaking will not pair me up against same BH level, correct?
🔥Builder Base Tips🔥
Unlike your home base, YOU SHOULD RUSH your builder base.
Your Battle Machine needs to be level 30, so level to 30.
Your Mega Tesla needs to be level 9, so level to 9.
Your Cannon Cart needs to be level 18, so level to 18.
Do the minimum needed to get three building geared up in Home Village.
If it is not needed for OTTO, do not upgrade it.
Exception: You might want to upgrade some troops for attacking.
An army I like is: Hero + Barbarians + Wall Breakers + Fill rest with Cannons
Spam spread the Barbarians to hunt for mines
Spam spread the Cannons
Drop the wall breaker strategically.
Drop hero strategically.
Good farming army especially since you need to max out the Cannon Cart
@green crater @acoustic wraith
I get that I just mean does having a lvl 3 Otto do anything?
level 5 you get an extra builder, but what do you get at lvl 1 and what changes when you upgrade to lvl 2 or is there literally no point 5 or bust?
@green crater You get nothing at lvl 1-4 Otto hut
just rush, theres no penalty to rushing in bh
does anyone have a good builder hall 5 base
@magic matrix THEN WHY DO THEY EXIST!
Again I understand all of that. But imagine if your cannon did no damage till level 5.
I’m asking why does the Otto have 5 levels if you don’t get anything till level 5
Too make you feel accomplished for getting the levels done I guess
🔥Builder Base Tips🔥
Unlike your home base, YOU SHOULD RUSH your builder base.
Your Battle Machine needs to be level 30, so level to 30.
Your Mega Tesla needs to be level 9, so level to 9.
Your Cannon Cart needs to be level 18, so level to 18.
Do the minimum needed to get three building geared up in Home Village.
If it is not needed for OTTO, do not upgrade it.Exception: You might want to upgrade some troops for attacking.
An army I like is: Hero + Barbarians + Wall Breakers + Fill rest with Cannons
Spam spread the Barbarians to hunt for mines
Spam spread the Cannons
Drop the wall breaker strategically.
Drop hero strategically.
Good farming army especially since you need to max out the Cannon Cart
@random parrot
Thanks for confirming. Good to know Supercell has not changed the meta for maxing out Builder Hall Level as soon as possible
😂😂
anyone have any ideas for th 5?
o m g its chorlee demolio
@magic matrix THEN WHY DO THEY EXIST!
@green crater Idk, ask Supercell. Btw calm down
No need to scream over a game lol
I pulled a thumb typing in all caps like that
Lol
someone should make a bbbb guide
ok
I think there's a guide by Noctaire on the forums
Hmm, the only official builder base guide is by SinOfDusk
And it only teaches you how to get Otto quickly
yeah
Your mega Tesla is too exposed, perhaps move it next to that fire cracker in the middle part cause you could make space for both
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@random parrot
Thanks for confirming. Good to know Supercell has not changed the meta for maxing out Builder Hall Level as soon as possible
@acoustic wraith thx
Almost lol
Prob 2 months max
DONT MAX
dont mac
max
🔥Builder Base Tips🔥
Unlike your home base, YOU SHOULD RUSH your builder base.
Your Battle Machine needs to be level 30, so level to 30.
Your Mega Tesla needs to be level 9, so level to 9.
Your Cannon Cart needs to be level 18, so level to 18.
Do the minimum needed to get three building geared up in Home Village.
If it is not needed for OTTO, do not upgrade it.
Exception: You might want to upgrade some troops for attacking.
An army I like is: Hero + Barbarians + Wall Breakers + Fill rest with Cannons
Spam spread the Barbarians to hunt for mines
Spam spread the Cannons
Drop the wall breaker strategically.
Drop hero strategically.
Good farming army especially since you need to max out the Cannon Cart
lol
@lavish garnet why not max though?
better and easier wins
All you’re really saying is don’t max
Because that’s how I like to play the game
I personally find it more achieving to max 🙂
ok
Open link in Clash of Clans or download the game.
This seems to be a good base
Ok
^^
Or simply rush then get Otto and never play builder base again
or rush then only collect loot from collectors to slowly accumulate enough loot to do upgrades and become max after a few years
Ehh over the accounts I have Otto is good
@nocturne wadi Noctaire isn't really a good builder base guide tbh, he tells you to use hammers and books in builder. Which you should never do, they should always be spent in main base
Bcuz imagine using all your hammers for mega Tesla, carts, bm ect... When after a couple month you can get that done with daily loot even tho it's limited.
In main base it takes way more time, heroes in mb take more time than bm
And lab in mb is way longer
I used the hammer for the last mega Tesla upgrade but that was it
True
Peepee poopoo man
Same lol, just farm at gold l, ez loot
Anybody got a builder base 8 design?
Any tips? The defences are so low level it gets 100% wrecked everytime so I just need to be faster than my opponent. I have the otto hut in the top corner and people miss it and waste time to get it surprisingly often
upgrades walls instead of defenses 🤦
i dump overflowing gold there while upgrading the battle machine lol. and excess wall rings since they aren’t worth spending on th10 walls
That's still kinda dumb tho. Walls are a important part when defending but defenses are still maturely more important and effective than walls, you can still upgrade the bm and upgrade your defenses if you plan things right.
When you have enough elixir and runes you can’t really have that much time to upgrade defenses in between bm upgrades so it’s better than having full storages
If you're using gold pass than that would make sense. Otherwise it's possible to upgrade bm and defenses at the same time because you willl only get like 1 rune a month and upgrades won't be cheaper.
i have level 5 defenses
i upgrade bm defense cart defense
bm
or maybe trap if im poor
6 builders in main village is better
You won't have enough loot to do any upgrades in builder base anyway
yeah 😔
i just built a new bh9 base
ive battled 3 times and no 2 sstars yet lol
around 3400 trophy range
show
ok
you can't tell me "read a guide" because there is no guide. Checkmate
it is a one compartment, with some funneling
im pretty sure one comps are meta
but tips?
read a guide
Mass barbs would wipe out the bottom side
bruv
yea @magic matrix contrary to home base building where you defend three stars, builder base is for defednign two stars
@sharp totem #home-base-strategy (not good, but would prob work at ur trophy level)
3-4 month not on coc
What do u expect then...
I have been busy awhile
Wow
I just got online and im on masters league
Kool
A lot of gems
Got a little bored and I made this, what do u guys think about this bh6 base? (I'm not expecting this to be good)
Good base, I see no major leaks. I'd just say place bottom archer tower to low range since that area is already covered by multi-mortar, a cannon, and archer tower, roaster and double cannon. Then change your mines to air and exempt like 1 giant mine since baby drags,night witches and mass minions are the most used stradegys at bh6 aside from giant/cannon carts.
So my base is kind of rushed? What stuff should I focus on upgrading first?
Builder base is suposed to be rushing
But I don’t want to be rushing on builder base
I want to max out then upgrade like I do on my main base
🔥Builder Base Tips🔥
Unlike your home base, YOU SHOULD RUSH your builder base.
Your Battle Machine needs to be level 30, so level to 30.
Your Mega Tesla needs to be level 9, so level to 9.
Your Cannon Cart needs to be level 18, so level to 18.
Do the minimum needed to get three building geared up in Home Village.
If it is not needed for OTTO, do not upgrade it.Exception: You might want to upgrade some troops for attacking.
An army I like is: Hero + Barbarians + Wall Breakers + Fill rest with Cannons
Spam spread the Barbarians to hunt for mines
Spam spread the Cannons
Drop the wall breaker strategically.
Drop hero strategically.
Good farming army especially since you need to max out the Cannon Cart
well then if you want to do that, then upgrade splash
i would say roaster, airbombs, crushers, giant cannon
then move onto double cannons, guard post, firecrackers
then finally everything else
I’m just saying because when I versus some other people they are max but it looks like I’m rushed on my end
your not that rushed
But I see people with max defense and almost max walls
but i strongly recommend rushing OTTO
people with max defenses should be higher trophies lol
It puts me on a disadvantage since the only troop I have maxed is barbs
usually, dropship minion gets a guarenteed 2 on people with really high walls
im prolly more rushed than you lol, its fine
Well my 100 barbs strat gets me 3 or 2 stars for some reason lol
lol
hey does anyone have a good bh7 base? ping me if you got one
carts do guarentee 2 star unless really spaced out wall layers
not necessarily against lavalauncher
Yes
@magic matrix Alright I will fix it 👍
Y’all saying rushing is essential and then getting 1-2 stars against me
With my superior defenses/optimized army that allows for a variety of attacks, not just “I maxed baby drags/cannon carts only”

I'm sorry, but how many builder do you have @magic matrix
Y’all saying rushing is essential and then getting 1-2 stars against me
@magic matrix You're probably the one that gets 1 or 2 stars against us lol
@magic matrix smh I legit have only 1 loss in my logs rn
I'm sorry, but how many builder do you have @magic matrix
@pearl pollen
5 builders at home base; no I don’t feel the need for otto
@magic matrix smh I legit have only 1 loss in my logs rn
@magic matrix trophy range?
And how many wins?
6
Nope
Not 2200
🤡
Lol
6 wins
6:1
Why is someone brand new at builder base talking?
Excuse me?
My Bh3 isn’t “brand new”
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
That's new lmao
Smh
I can create a brand new account and get it to bh3 in like 5 days
Not hard
Smh
This is what peak builder hall performance looks like:
Is that you?
Yup
Don’t feel the need to rush at all
Trophies you're at?
🤡
2400-2500 usually
Sometimes dip to ~2350
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And did you spend any money on builder?
No?
Why would I
@magic matrix I've passed 3k easily with rushing
Haha
Rushing is more beneficial lol
And there's no reason not to
If you wanna get stomped by those who actually take their time sure
Nah
Otherwise yeah you’re rushing against other glass cannons
Good job
I can easily triple max bh7's
And I was only at like 500-600 wins
Good for you. I am so relieved to know that I’m not matched against bh8-9s
Or else you’d mop the floor with me
😳
While it takes maxers over 1200+ wins to triple a max bh7
Anyway
See the difference?
All I can say is
Have fun getting Otto and then most likely abandoning bh
Once supercell adds more goodies you’ll definitely be back rushing
Ok
Back rushing?
Bh10 won't come in at least a year or so
I'll be maxed by then
It’ll take me a month more to finish 6
and then I’ll be at 7
Making steady progress
Well your trophy range would be way higher in a month if you were to rush
Why would I need or want more trophies? To get more resources? I’m fine at my current range. To join the contest of e-peen measurement? No thank you. My ego doesn’t need any inflation.
When you rush builder, there's no penalty unlike main base. You don't get reduced loot from lower bh7's and matchups are completely dependent on your trophy range not your bh.
If you get more loot you'll max out builder base faster
That's what you want
More loot
And rushing is more fun
There is a penalty. Your undeveloped buildings are much easier to wipe with maxed units of previous bhs, sure you may have more buildings but they’re destroyed at a faster rate. Also, again, you’re limiting your army to either all carts (for Otto) or maaaaaybe baby drags and y’know not all bases can be approached with 1 strategy. Having a variety of useable troops helps a lot more than you think tbh
They're not destroyed at a faster rate. Let me give you a example.
Which choice is better
A. Having 2 lvl 1 cannons that both have 250 hp and each deal 50 dps
B. Having a single lvl 2 cannon that has 300 hp and deal's 60 dps
A. is better since you'll deal a total of 100 dps and additionally they have 500 hp combined. While B you only have 60 dps and a total of 300 hp.
What I'm trying to point out is that with more traps, defenses, buildings, higher troops ect.... Means that Lower builder will have more difficulty defeating you're base since he doesn't have high enough troops to counter your brand new defenses. Plus he hasn't unlocked the additional defenses to counter you're higher lvl troops.
Sure
Believe what you will
Rusher

@magic matrix
Read Noctaire guide, scroll to the section that says Maxing Vs Rushing
https://forum.supercell.com/showthread.php/1641137-Guides-Strategies
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BH6...


it takes a LOT longer due to
He said you can, but never said it's better than rushing
And he even stated it takes longer
bruh if your bh3 it takes 1 week to max 😂
bruh if your bh3 it takes 1 week to max 😂
@pearl pollen She was saying maxing every builder hall is better
Yes but rushing builder base is still the best choice
@magic matrix Great looking and strong base. I'd say maxing out lava launcher, crushers and double cannons first. They're the most dangerous defenses against ground troops, then max air crackers for maximum protection against air attacks. Once done you can max every other defense the order you please, goodluck.
Rushed for Otto, can confirm you progress faster by rushing
I will not say rushing is the best option. I once rushed before when I am at bh 4 or 5, and my base is always 3 starred easily that I can never win. Which make that I need like 2x more time to win and get enough loots for upgrading
Tho yeah you may invest all in a single troop, but keep in mind, your opponent can always 3 star yours before you 3 star theirs
However, that depends on how much you rush, it is true that maxing is not the best option. Rushing a but like letting your side defences 1-2 levels off is a good option, I mean even better than maxing them, but not too much like completely not upgrading them
So
rushing appropriately> maxing > rushing completely
It’s my birthday
Well when u rush, you face against easier opponents
So
rushing appropriately> maxing > rushing completely
@magic matrix I disagree, I've seen completely rushed bases with only 500 wins at like 3300 trophies. If you only upgrade specific defenses such as mega Tesla, multi-mortar, roaster , max out a single army and know how to use it properly then you'll jump up trophies higher and gain more loot. While if you max, you'll jump up trophies by a little win more often but won't earn as much loot. Even if you completely rush you get extra traps,defenses, higher troops levels ect... To take down lower max bh's easier and it'll take lower bh's a harder time to triple you. So correct order
Rushing properly > Completely rushing > Maxing
Completely rushing > Rushing properly > Maxing if you use gp
builders encourages rushing with its matchmaking too 
th 9 war can anyone help me plzzz
@magic matrixI also agree rushing properly is the best option
However I still can't understand how can you get loot when rushing completely hm
Your base always get 3 starred easily and you always lose
I mean if u want gems u can rush it
In higher bh the trait of defence level will favor you more then the amount of defence
They're not destroyed at a faster rate. Let me give you a example.
Which choice is better
A. Having 2 lvl 1 cannons that both have 250 hp and each deal 50 dps
B. Having a single lvl 2 cannon that has 300 hp and deal's 60 dps
A. is better since you'll deal a total of 100 dps and additionally they have 500 hp combined. While B you only have 60 dps and a total of 300 hp.
What I'm trying to point out is that with more traps, defenses, buildings, higher troops ect.... Means that Lower builder will have more difficulty defeating you're base since he doesn't have high enough troops to counter your brand new defenses. Plus he hasn't unlocked the additional defenses to counter you're higher lvl troops. @magic matrix
Plus matchmaking is solely based on throphies
hi i was wondering what’s a good town hall 8 base
So having more defenses is always an advantage and rushing has literally no downside compared to the regular base
^^
im looking for someone bh9 with relatively high defense lvls to try my base. If so, pls dm me thx
What should I upgraded to max with a hammer
Multi mortar
Air bombs
Crusher
Giant cannon
None, don't use hammers in bb
Got the base from somebody here and mod it for night witch bait 🤭
i normally do that
N forgot
THE ONE TIME I USE WITCHES
THE ONE TIME I FORGET TO TEST
i lose in the finals
None, don't use hammers in bb
@magic matrix I didn't ask if I should what i do is my decision
For anybody in town hall six this lay out is highly recommend. I got the layout from dark barbarian please visit his channel and check out his video for town hall six for more information on this layout
lmfao
@magic matrix I didn't ask if I should what i do is my decision
@magic matrix Do whatever you want then.
You were the one who asked for help in the first place lol
That Th6 layout will get destroyed
Wth just Th 6 troops itself
Balloons from bottom and top with heal
And such a 200IQ sweeper which is actually pushing loons towards the Air defence
2 heals cover the whole base
Don't recommend
He's obviously a newbie trying to flex with trash bases
th6 bases doesn’t even matter anyways so what’s the point of stressing out over something that’s getting 3 starred either way
Which def should I get up on a rushed bh9? I have Otto, and all bh5-6 lv def or worse lol
Maxing our the gem mine for now, thought it would be nice to get bb up for future cg
double cannons
Roaster, giant cannon or lava launcher
Honestly giant cannons aren’t that great
I would say air bombs to stop drop ship minion raids and also to counter hog gliders, crushers for the battle machine, and double cannons for pekka attacks
And get at least all walls to level 4 this way a bomber would take 2 hits to break through
Dunno why we posting here, but heres an actual decent 6 base. Corner huts, drag cc ofc. Red = rabs, blk = sbs, blue = gb, purple = springs
If yall need proof then i got a ton of replays
And this is a hybrid base
Kinda
Just use it to not get tripled..... war is ok
Th6 doesn't even matter. There's only like 2 attacks stradegys you can use
Well yeah but they branch off into stuff that u can get with cc. It even holds against 7s
Open link in Clash of Clans or download the game.
Open link in Clash of Clans or download the game.
Remember youre going against bhs 1-2 lvls higher, triples are a thing
Need a bh5 build
what yall think
typical one comp, but do u think it can defend 2 stars?
Anyone need bases
Bh5 plz @ashen zephyr
Bh 5 @ashen zephyr
Does anyone have a good builder hall 6 base?
is the bare bones of bh just to cram everything together with some good walls n pathing
@crisp linden thats only for bh7,8,9 i would say
the lower bh's actually have decent base building
Looking for bh 6 bases
@tacit quest dm me
Nice!
What defenses counter night witches?
I feel like multimortar altho its pretty shit at higher levels it feels good against NWs
I know that roaster shits on bats but i need to know what to build my base around to kill the witches themselves, thanks in advance. Tag me if u got answers
Mby cannons?
What builder hall level ? Set up big bombs where they usually spawn their NWs. Later on , NWs are pretty weak and barely used .
I feel like multimortar altho its pretty shit at higher levels it feels good against NWs
@magic matrix lava launcher is best counter against NWs, and your right. Multi-mortar is crappy, I have a max level multi-mortar and it isn't doing shit.
Why tf did you max
I only max the troops I use
And upgrade my bm a bit
I don’t even upgrade edefenses past kevel 4
Because I either Don't use builder Base that much or I forgot that it exists,lol
Rush? Meh,too long,I have a home base to do,and also farming here is awful
why do yall always tell ppl to rush just let them enjoy the way they play it
^^^^ let em do what they want. Even tho rushing is better for trophy pushing it might not be as fun for ppl
Also nice passive-aggressive prof pic sensen
lol thank you
good or bad (2 comp)
k
base is too clustered
What to do when one Max’s our builder base?
Would be nice if i could convert builder elixir and gold to my home base ? Currency switch
no
no
yes but no
How about... no?
So this is my current bh and I have some questions... Should I just rush to bh9 or I should I max out my current. Is there a good attack strategie, because I suck! Is there anything I should work on next, like archer towers or walls or smt... Thanks!❤️
@eager mulch rushing to builder hall 9 gets you a lot of good defenses along with more traps and walls, the lava launcher and mega tesla are both insanely powerful. your base looks pretty okay, except for maybe the spring traps on the outside of the base. all your push traps are good even though one of them is gonna activate a small bomb.
the most important things to upgrade are the resource collectors and storages, then your main defenses like air bombs, roaster, giant cannon, guard post and multi mortar (and lava launcher and mega tesla if you get those)
I've also heard that baby dragons are powerful all the way up to bh9, so you only have to upgrade one troop to have a good army, which allows you to spend more elixir on your battle machine
@dense ridge ty so much I really appreciate!
Bad,
- Wasted walls that could be useful
- Archer towers should be on high range to cover the whole base
- Wall placements are bad and your base should be layered out
People seems to be botching my base a lot
I built this yesterday night on a whim, is it really that good?
Its ok, but a lot of air value at the top comp as well as air bombs
People are just going to spam night witches from the top
Nice
Can anyone help me with the letter "W" with walls?
Hello
I was wondering what should the upgrade priority be for BH9
I got 6 builder but idk what i should max now since i’m really rushed
upgrade ||pay 100 dollars for this answer||
jk idk, is ur builder machine thing upgraded to the max
They're not destroyed at a faster rate. Let me give you a example.
Which choice is better
A. Having 2 lvl 1 cannons that both have 250 hp and each deal 50 dps
B. Having a single lvl 2 cannon that has 300 hp and deal's 60 dpsA. is better since you'll deal a total of 100 dps and additionally they have 500 hp combined. While B you only have 60 dps and a total of 300 hp.
What I'm trying to point out is that with more traps, defenses, buildings, higher troops ect.... Means that Lower builder will have more difficulty defeating you're base since he doesn't have high enough troops to counter your brand new defenses. Plus he hasn't unlocked the additional defenses to counter you're higher lvl troops.
@magic matrix
Two problems:
lol
What do you think?
Maybe move the air defense in
drop ship
Carts
the one at top?
yup
i mainly placed it there as a distraction
so the archer tower behind it takes action
i would put archer on top and air defense behind
well is there anything else wrong with it
so what would you rate it on a 1/10
tbh im not sure maybe like 7
lmao this is mine rn
lemme get a pic of it brb
not bad
because i cant deal with the walls for BB
that multi-mortar is a good placement
but
i like your base and theres not much wrong with it
Bye
Don't think so
hm
Well probably pekkas playhouse
hm
Or clash chat
Ill place my home base loadout in #home-base-attacking
Aight
lemme take a pic of it
Yep
what should i upgrade next? skeleton balloon or bat witches?
Can anyone help me with a anti 2 sugar BH9 base..!!?
I'm BH6 max, how much time would it take if i rush to get otto hut maxed??
Not sure how long it would take but the battle machine takes the longest, you'll be able to finish all the other tasks while you do your bm
He either got gp or spent a lot of money on gems. I doubt it's possible to get max bm with only 800 wins
Its possible hes f2p
Is it ok to rush walls?
I’m like 95% done with bh6
4 levels of BM, 1 level of roaster and all the walls are the only ones left
I ain’t grinding 20mil
Nah, your defenses are priority, but when your wall is still low leveled, you should upgrade them
Like, you should upgrade them until they get really expensive
Walls are near the end of priority
I went to 3k trophys with level 2 walls
Definitely maxed my BM before 1k win , took around 4 seasons with gp and I didnt do my battles everyday
That's different, you used gp. We're talking f2p with absolutely no money spent.
Like... Not even a cent
We're talking about maxed battle machine . Based on wiki , a max battle machine is 75,000,000 elixir , with 800 wins at 100k elixir each , you already have 80 millions elixir.
Add your pumps , free magic items and 3 win bonus . IMO, 800 wins is definitely enough for a maxed battle.
Yes but not everyone wants to specifically upgrade their BM to max. Some people want to upgrade hog gliders , super pekkas or baby dragons alongside with the bm to use different armies.
You can't just win with the bm alone, you need other troops such as Barbs, bombers, dropships, minions ect..... 800 is definitely not enough to get those maxed with troops, lab or gold storages ect...
Nope i win at 3k with bombers and carts for 2 stars
You get free elixir rune in silver pass, clan games, events at least once too
Elixir in pass
And collectors loot
Carts and BM should be maxed before any other troops , and I didnt only rush my BM. I rushed for otto when I learned you could unlock an extra builder
😆
!ghelp
I'm builder hall 7 with lvl 1 everything and waiting to get 2million elixir to build last army camp for next bh. In the meantime what are the most important upgrades to make using gold?
2.5mil
I'm builder hall 7 with lvl 1 everything and waiting to get 2million elixir to build last army camp for next bh. In the meantime what are the most important upgrades to make using gold?
@sinful swan Wait you mean you have level 1 mortar and roaster?
yee
I wonder how you even not get your base 3 starred
I'm chillin at 2k trophies
hm
But your base don't get 3 starred?
fun
here lately they can hardly hit 1 star
whats your opponents troop level
Ah have you upgrade the clock tower?
It cost a lot but quite useful
currently tower lvl 5
hm
hm
while I usually spam lvl 8 barbs and lvl 5 machine
I know on my main account I maxed air defense first without rushing
but if you prefer rushing, I will recommend maxing mega bombs
this account I'm rushing the bh but im noticing little air armies attacking me
oh xd
I just read rushin bh is good so you can early unlock 6th builder
but if you prefer rushing, I will recommend maxing mega bombs
it looks 'small', can be upgraded fast, but can destroy enemy attack when used properly
I just read rushin bh is good so you can early unlock 6th builder
@sinful swan yeah rushing is a very good option in bb
just don't rush too much like even mortar roaster level 1 in bb7 lmao
Ok yeah mega bombs do tend to wreak havoc when placed near the center of the base where all enemy troops congregate
they can still work in bb7, but no longer when your enemy troops level go level 12
Ok yeah mega bombs do tend to wreak havoc when placed near the center of the base where all enemy troops congregate
@sinful swan yeah
thats cool when 5-6 witches get bombed away at once
Does anyone ever up their walls?
not really neccesarry in bb
I bought the battle pass and have more than 25 wall punch rings
walls are not really useful in bb
I wanted to up my walls with gold before wasting 1 ring on uping them
but idk
I have too many rings and cant claim anymore until I spend them so I kinda wanted to up the walls a bit
level 2 walls are cheap it is not a bad choice to spend some gold on
but yeah i don't really feel theyre that important
true...
can help a bit to delay enemies attack
but not much
level of wall do not matter much, but the placement matters
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lol cool
that's why derp is trippin
usually costs 2.5mil for the army camp
20% off makes it 2mill
battle pass is really useful xd
yeah for $5 it makes alot of stuff easier so its a small price
not to mention in the main game you basically double your loot intake for that month
sucks the following month though when you have 25mill gold/elixir to try to spend before all of the rats come in and have their way with your base
I spam upgrade all my walls to deplete my gold but that elixir takes forever to spend
cya
i thought new army camp was 2.5 mil elix
Nope i win at 3k with bombers and carts for 2 stars
@lavish garnet well I use super pekkas and carts, and 800 wins is definitely not enough if you use them like me.
BRO I KNEW THAT MINE WAS A PERFECT SPOT FOR IT
Does anyone have a good bh9 progress base for me?
I 'evolved' to be able to disguise bases that try to trick people to spam in corner and bomb them, so I always use a troop to test and always break the strategy xd
I just position my base so that the farthest corner is farthest from th so u only get 1 star or the close edge has a roaster getting 1 star too :)
Anyone got a good bh5 base ?
Delete ur game
What defence should i start upgrading 
@dry sonnet can u send me the Layout?
Does anyone has this base link?
manually copy it
no one is gonna have the #1's base
or else we all know trap placements
And people always find a way to triple the #1 base
cool
I rushed to builder hall 9 for Otto 
👍
I rushed to builder hall 9 for Otto
@sage fulcrum I'm actually thinking of doing that
currently max bh6
How is this base?
hello
i rushed to bh9
what defenses should i prioritize?
i left most of my defenses/traps at lvl 1
Mega Tesla
@raven nacelle try to get Otto bot
if i got Otto.. I wouldn't get Otto unless i actually maxed out bb lmao
traps seem much more cost effective than normal defenses
should i focus on traps?
i know loot income for bb is crap so i want to be efficient as possible
i.e. maximize bang for buck
yeah they are a lot more powerful
but you still want to have the main defences maxed out
like roaster, mm, mt, lavalauncher
air bombs are good too
at higher levels a roaster can decimate pretty much every strat
even does quite good damage to battle machine
alright thank you
np :)
Y'all think hammer BM to lvl 30 to get otto is worth?
PS (my base still hasn't been 2 starred more than 60%)
i DM u @lavish garnet
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Y'all think hammer BM to lvl 30 to get otto is worth?
@pearl pollen no, save hammer for aq when she's lvl40+
What do you guys think of this base?
...
I mean, if it's terrible, tell me
Yes
Well, why is it bad? What can I do to improve it?
With
Oh lmao
It is a little funky
I like the usage of the holes in the walls to mess up pathing
Thanks!
But for higher BH’s you usally want one giant open comp, with lots of central DPS, as well as moats/hard to break in form the outside
Idk much at all about builder base
Ok, I'll work on something
Isnt there free bases



