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#builder-base-strategy
lavish garnet
classic braackets lol
rough meadow
wait why do you have mega mines right in front of crushers?
lavish garnet
its because it messes with troop ai
when they spam barbs they dont go for the crushers
also night witches funnel there when walking
lavish garnet
still very easy to win with 40 barbs
rough meadow
why not?
tawdry harbor
What should I upgrade
tawdry harbor
which one first
lavish garnet
which one u have loot for
tawdry harbor
Both
lavish garnet
do storages
weak pulsar
winter grail
Is getting closer to 3000 trophies
I got all that trophies with power potion and today i bought 1 from the daily deals to push to 3000
lavish garnet
hmm
magic matrix
waste
lavish garnet
i havea base
magic matrix
You should have upgraded cannon carts not drop ship or minions if you wanted Otto faster.
But you know, do as you wish
lavish garnet
yep but you should also upgrade some troops other than otto but not all
magic matrix
Getting the elixer for those troops takes days tho
So your withdrawing yourself from getting Otto for another serveral weeks
mystic violet
Your Air is pretty low. Which you should fix also if your primary base is the home village you might want to upgrade the gem mine because that can be helpful to both villages.
dry merlin
Eh gem mine is useless. I have like 4000 gems anyways
half ridge
magic matrix
Check #builder-base-links
tiny kelp
@dry merlin I'd suggest getting your walls up a bit, at least to level 4. Not too expensive
dry merlin
Alright. I was trying to rush to get my otto
lavish garnet
if you like walls do it to 5 so max bombers dont 1 shot it
dense ridge
@magic matrix if you're playing f2p you should expect to take a few years to max from th1 to th13, over only one year the level one gem mine produces nearly 800 gems, and the levle 9 gem mine produces about 1800. That over a few years would boost your gem production by quite a bit, albeit not by nearly as much as obstacles + gem boxes or achievements.
magic matrix
K
A single aq upgrade takes 1000 gems to finish instantly
For me
So I have to wait 1 year and a bit more longer just to finish 2 aq upgrades
Which is less than a month worth of upgrade
So in general that's not much gems, but still better than nothing I gotta admit
And normally people have lvl 4 gem mine
And spend can easily spend over 2000 gems on a single building/troop/hero ect...
@dense ridge
dense ridge
why tf would u finish it with gems, use a book of heroes, they cost 500 im the shop
dont spend gems on building things -3-
magic matrix
Book of heroes is a rip-off either way lol
The only thing that's worth getting from trader is training pot, and sometimes lab pot
Save the gems for rare events
Like 1 gem boost
Special anniversary deals ect...
dense ridge
you get almost exactly 1000 gems a year from a level 4 gem mine, so you get 40 extra training pots every year
magic matrix
I wouldn't say exactly around 1000 gems tbh
Some people can be inactive for more than 6 days
Which fills gems mine
And wastes the remaining gems producing
dense ridge
you can get 3 training pots a month (86.5 gems/30 days) which could be equal to at least 1 mil in gold+elixir each time you use one, at the very least, so nearly 6 mil extra resources per month
yeah but those people are in the minority, and you're using a "what if" argument which is irrelevant
magic matrix
minority? I'm pretty sure there's millions of inactive players
you can get 3 training pots a month (86.5 gems/30 days) which could be equal to at least 1 mil in gold+elixir each time you use one, at the very least, so nearly 6 mil extra resources per month
@dense ridge depends on players skill
dense ridge
yeah no dip, they'll get 0 gems a year so that's why i'm not talking about those players
magic matrix
And 1mil isn't even a lot
dense ridge
okay well for me it should give me about 24million resources a month
magic matrix
Neither is 6mil
A single wall costs 6mil or something at th12 and th13 lol
And that's probably with gp
So if your depending on the gem mine to make you progress very quickly, well your like a turtle
magic matrix
barely
dense ridge
ok
so for me, i have a level 7 gem mine, giving me ~1400 gems a year. with 1400 gems worth of training pots (56) and getting about 3 mil of each resource from each training potion for 6 million total mixed resources, then multiplying that by 56... 336 million mixed resources, not counting dark elixir. My resource collectors make 612 million per year, so the gem mine alone increases my resource production rates by 50%
(not counting my regular raids)
or it can give me 12 days worth of lab time with the lab pots, which is not nearly as much but yeah
magic matrix
I don't think that's true, it's very difficult to constantly gain 3mil from each training pot, especially when some days has ups and downs with how much loot you can get in average. But good for you
lavish garnet
hi
lol i dont got time to use trainin pots
regular time to time farming works for me
magic matrix
And 3 mil of each resource, so 3mil of de per training pot? Are you even understanding what your saying lol
regular time to time farming works for me
@lavish garnet Same, regular time is better. I feel like he's trolling tbh
lavish garnet
wait why we chat in bb building lol
magic matrix
Idk, he thinks gem mine is super useful
Even without gem mine, you can still get 56 training pot
Per year
magic matrix
And sometimes they give train pot for free lol
lavish garnet
yes
dense ridge
And 3 mil of each resource, so 3mil of de per training pot? Are you even understanding what your saying lol
@magic matrix no i was talking about gold and elixir dummy
not counting dark elixir
lavish garnet
hmm ok
magic matrix
Should have said gold and elixer dummy
dense ridge
yeah but if you pay for them with gem mine gems you get to save an extra 1400 gems
boom
magic matrix
De still counts as resources
lavish garnet
acheivement gems are faster
magic matrix
^^
lavish garnet
2000 gems per second
dense ridge
lmao
you're just ignoring every part of my argument and trying to ask hypothetical questions for your "argument"
lavish garnet
what is argument
dense ridge
you pointed out "resources" when you i elaborated about 1 sentence later "not counting dark elixir"
I don't think that's true, it's very difficult to constantly gain 3mil from each training pot, especially when some days has ups and downs with how much loot you can get in average. But good for you
magic matrix
Yes, it's called correcting
lavish garnet
i farm with no magic
lavish garnet
back in my day you had no magic
magic matrix
Gem mine was originally only added because newbies kept annoying supercell for a gem collector
After several denies, supercell then added it
magic matrix
My point is gem mine isn't they're to give you a bunch of gems
dense ridge
he says gem mine has almost no effect on your actual experience
lavish garnet
yep it gives no xp
dense ridge
okay, but it still gives you a good amount of gems
magic matrix
Ya
dense ridge
but it.. barely helps? According to you at least
magic matrix
I'd rather have a cwl medal mine
lavish garnet
lol too op
dense ridge
lol ok
dense ridge
nah
magic matrix
Yes
lavish garnet
why trader no sellhammer
dense ridge
a single hammer wouldnt be worth 209-336 mil mixed resources
magic matrix
why trader no sellhammer
@lavish garnet They would cost like 100k gems if he did
And nobody would buy it
lavish garnet
oof
dense ridge
probably more like 1k
dense ridge
id rather them have books in the trader than hammers
magic matrix
It's like a rune of de but better
dense ridge
id argue that a hammer would be worth less than 1k gems, especially if a book of heroes is worth .5k
magic matrix
id rather them have books in the trader than hammers
@dense ridge that's you, think about other people's opinions as well
magic matrix
Rune of de is worth 3k gems, and hammer is like that but additionally you don't need to wait for the time. So not less than 1k or 1k. More like 10k gems realistically
dense ridge
are you talking about hammer of heroes?
magic matrix
Any hammer in general
They would all be worth 10k gems or more
And nobody would be able to afford them
So that's why supercell decided not to add them
And either way, you get gems everyday
Cwl is once a month
So medals are obviously worth more
dense ridge
yeah they are
lavish garnet
u should get 50 medals no matter if you do cwl or not
magic matrix
Daily?
lavish garnet
no
magic matrix
Okay then sure
dense ridge
a rune of elixir is worth 1.5k and a book of fighting is worth 925, so the most a hammer of fighting would be worth is 2425 gems or maybe 2500
a fairly priced one anyway
and you wouldnt even use the whole rune to pay for the upgradfe
upgrade
rune of dark elixir is 3000 gems, while the book of heroes is worth 500
so at the max, 4000 gems for a hammer of heroes
magic matrix
I disagree, time is say more valuable then resources. And a de upgrade which is like let's say 10 days, would take way more than 1k gems to finish
4000 would be minimal
And that's way too generous
dense ridge
when using a book of heroes -_-
magic matrix
Realistically, 7000 gems minimal
dense ridge
you're making things up at this point
magic matrix
Nope
Book of hammers make it so you don't pay for the upgrade and get it done automatically
dense ridge
where do you get those numbers
so you pay 3000 gems for a rune of de.. and then 4000 gems for an upgrade that you say is how long?
magic matrix
14 days
dense ridge
it should cost around 1800 gems not 4000
magic matrix
K, let's go with that. 3000+ 1800 = 4800
That's still 4800 gems
You said gem mine gives you 1800 gems a year
dense ridge
but you're using a book of heroes or fighting, which would be either 925 gems or 500
omg we're over that
magic matrix
So you have to wait almost 3 years for 1 hammer
dense ridge
we're not talking about that anymore
and id rather have an extra 300mil resources a year than 1 hammer
magic matrix
So gem mine realistically doesn't give much gems
we're not talking about that anymore
@dense ridge You're gonna be maxed anyways
So why not shorten it by 14 days
So you can be maxed 14 days earlier
magic matrix
Th?
dense ridge
12
magic matrix
Hammers would definitely serve you more
magic matrix
I don't think you understand that th12 lab is the longest
And takes over 400 days to max
Getting loot is easy
Especially with super goblins
magic matrix
Ok
lavish garnet
-_-
magic matrix
lol
frosty fractal
Why does it say don’t max builderhall 6! In #builder-base-links
tiny tide
where does it say that lol
snow siren
Cause don't max it
untold mulch
hey
sudden axle
i need a bh8 base
rough meadow
yes max bh6.
ionic helm
yes
magic matrix
Lol for builder hall I clump all the defenses next to the town hall
Opponents usually only one star it
Works surprisingly well
magic matrix
What trophies? And bh lvl?
ionic helm
even within the clump of defences there must be order though
magic matrix
Yes if they’re 4
Sometimes if 5
Machine ruins it
woohoo. we have a maxer here.
Don’t tell me you’re not one of the maxer masterrace? Smh
Can’t wait to unlock the BM tbh
rough meadow
i'm a maxer. i'm bh4 currently.
rough meadow
yeah same.
magic matrix
The walls do be expensive doe
Thank god I saved enough wallrings for bh5
Cuz it’s imo is the last bh when rings are worth it
I ain’t spending 700k on a wall
rough meadow
yeah. walls are expensive. i always use wall rings
rough meadow
i think i just finished maxing defenses. i have some trash buidings to max.
magic matrix
Oh oof
rough meadow
i think gem mine clock tower, and possibly elixer holder.
magic matrix
Clock tower is useful af
It’s a shame I’m bh4 cuz
If I had better storages
I could get the 1mil rewards
from the pass
rough meadow
ye i know. but since troops don't take timw to train anymore the only thing i use it on is bombs. yeah. i currently have 5000 gold and elixer in season rewards. but i can't claim it because thats the max i can hold in my storages.
rough meadow
ye. so when i upgrade bh i claim all that gold and elixer and then i can basically just upgrade like crazy.
tiny kelp
I'm maxing on my mini, is amusing to 3* a bh7 while still at bh5- and have them get 1*
magic matrix
Shhh
rough meadow
ye. its really funny.
magic matrix
You could summon the “rUsh Is BeTTeR” simpletons
nocturne wadi
my rushed bh9 got to 4k easily, while my max bh6 can't go beyond 2700
I agree it's funny to win against overly rushed 8's as a 6, but it's inefficient
rough meadow
no. its super effecient.
magic matrix
My thinking is
In the end
You gotta unrush that
So it doesn’t matter outside of rushing for more resources
rough meadow
ye
nocturne wadi
everyone plays the way they find most enjoyable
magic matrix
Should I buy
The bh5 starter pack
Multimortar and 1m elixir sound delicious
💅💅💅
rough meadow
hhmm personally i'm a f2p type.
magic matrix
Same
But starter packs are efficient
Compared to gems
You get the loot and some goodies
Like the mortar
ALSO
I hate the mortar so much
It messes with my archers
While my giants tank
rough meadow
what attack do you use?
magic matrix
Eh tbh idk why I’m maxing troops but usually I use archers, barbs and giants + occasional bomber vs tricky wall funnelling
Or if I see that I can snipe the crackers
I go babydrags
and minions
Rarely tho
rough meadow
ye. i use 3 sets barbs. 1 set archers. i use archers to take out crusher. and then use barbs to get bh and percentage
magic matrix
I do 2 barbs, 1 arch, 1 giant
or 1 arch, 1 barb, 2 giant
Depends
I like the flexibility bh offers
Tbh
rough meadow
ahh ok. sometimes i use baby drags if i can take out air defenses,
open delta
Barbs and a bomber for my rushed base haha
magic matrix
Barbs and cc
magic matrix
best bh7 best??
magic matrix
Best bh is 9
uncut sequoia
doesnt bm kinda suck
rough meadow
no bm is cool and a big help to ur troops.
strong sorrel
came across this base in builder base battle. I thought most of it was pretty decent. what do you guys think
dusk vector
It’s an easy ground rush because of the crusher at the top
Overall pretty good
Also army camps in corners are bad, easy percentage and less building to tank for the defenses
snow siren
No one is gonna 3 star so time fail doesn't really matter
tawdry harbor
What should I upgrade
whole fossil
vagrant mist
hi can someone give me an anti-3star base in bh6
odd dew
hi can someone give me an anti-3star base in bh6
@vagrant mist
Me, I can guarantee it, if you duel with BH 6 too
odd dew
OK, wait a minute
vagrant mist
k
rough meadow
@potent mirage why is your bh snipable? is this a troll base?
signal kelp
@rough meadow It seems like an easy one star, when you get to the core, gl
rough meadow
its an easy three star. use cannon carts to take out the bh core. then archers to take out crushers then bm and whatever troop to take out rest of base.
signal kelp
I forgot abt cannon carts 🤦🏾♂️
rough meadow
lol
limpid quarry
Is this a good base For town hall 4 ?
tiny kelp
@limpid quarry No, that crusher can be sniped to easily
limpid quarry
That’s why I have the Canon their
tiny kelp
That’s why I have the Canon their
the sneaky archers can still snipe it with their cloak ability before the cannon can hit them
summer thorn
What does the battle machine do
south plover
Run straight to the crusher and die
summer thorn
Lol
summer thorn
I deleted my message cos I realised you get 50 gem for rebuilding it
south plover
?
You need to max it for Otto
And it is also kinda helpful as much as we love to rag on it here
tiny tide
it's a hero you can use in attacks @summer thorn
vagrant mist
Run straight to the crusher and die
@south plover @south plover u have played with battle machine well,uk it very well
u just summerised its life
magic matrix
The only time that my bm is working properly is that the bm bypass two buildings and head for th directly, thats the only time it is useful 😂
magic matrix
Well you're really lucky, my BM never does that
snow siren
What's the fastest way to rush to bh9
tiny tide
place everything and upgrade bh
probably only upgrade cannon carts for offense
since u need those max for otto anyway
snow siren
What about collectors
lavish garnet
and storage
regal pelican
rough meadow
anyone have a guide for builder base?
tiny tide
yeah choose 1 troop you like the look of, level it up, then spam it on enemy bases
rough meadow
that aint a guide for building on builder base.
tiny tide
and make sure your base layout is like this: no intricate design, no we don't do that, place all your defences inside 1 massive compartment
and then have a 1 tile gap then a 2nd row of walls
unbeatable 👍
rough meadow
i'm not really looking for smartt answers this is a serious question.
rough meadow
thats not true tho.
tiny tide
it sorta is
up until like the top 1%
but theres still a lot of spam and boxes up there
rough meadow
i crush massive boxes tho. and spam does nothing to my base.
tiny tide
so what exactly are you looking to be guided in
rough meadow
i'm not looking. i'm just wondering if there are any builder base guides out there or if i should build my own.
*make my own guide
tiny tide
what kind of 'guide'
how to attack, how to build a base, what to upgrade, how to push, how to rush, how to get most loot
rough meadow
all of those things actually. like how they have base buiding guides for war bases.
hexed bloom
@rough meadow it’s all about abusing the ai
Making bases that lead the troops into areas you want to
rough meadow
yeah i know how to build a base i'm just want to know if there is a bb guide out there
lament briar
I have a basically rushed out builder hall 6 what should I upgrade first
snow siren
Builder hall
nocturne wadi
Noctaire made a basebuilding guide on the forums
rough meadow
who is Noctaire and what are the forums?
magic matrix
ummm, the supercell forum
magic matrix
Should I max Roaster, Double cannon, Mega Tesla or Multi-mortar first? Which one would be the most beneficial and get me higher up trophies faster?
snow siren
Idk but I would say roaster
It wrecks swarms and deals decent damage to clumped tanks
dense ridge
roaster>mortar>double cannons imo
bleak trail
fell sorry for him
frosty fractal
I do feel sorry for him to tho
vagrant mist
lol
uneven knot
Depends what trophy range you're in @magic matrix
dense ridge
ye i hate when people make fun of bases in #base-links :(
bleak trail
yeah
nocturne wadi
He hates haters
potent mirage
Lmao
fair lantern
Any good bh8 bases?
raw tinsel
ashen mountain
Hello
unreal cliff
@glacial thunder 😉
sweet marsh
Thoughts on the upgrade path
vagrant mist
is battle machine worth upg?
i m bh 6
and he is lev6]
but it takes tons of elexer
i dont like upg him as i saw no dif between 5 and 6
vagrant mist
?
idk how i can attack with battle machine while somthing is on upg as builder is busy there
sweet solstice
?? @vagrant mist
vagrant mist
@sweet solstice i was jk lol
bitter sable
Bh 5 base
magic matrix
Why is multi-mortar at the side of the base? Could easily get 2 star with high percentage by mass barbs, and easily tripled by giant/cc
snow siren
Put guard post in core
bitter sable
What 's the best defen for bh5 ?
magic matrix
Put guard post in core
There is no difference between putting it in core or not, as the amount of guard troops is just fixed their ability to delay enemies attack is just same
magic matrix
There is a difference actually, more defenses are in core. So more dps dealt while those troops are distracted and since crusher will be right next to it. It may draw ground-melee troops such as giants and barbs to get smashed by the crusher
lavish garnet
like skelton trap
robust hill
will the bases that the top ranking bh9 players have work for rushed bh9s
or do you need a different layout if youre rushed
currently 3 days away from being a bh9
magic matrix
Yes and no
robust hill
what do you mean?
i know that a rushed bh9 will never do as well as a maxed one but i was just wondering if those box layouts you see in the highest ranks would work for me
majority of my defenses (except mega tesla and roaster which are lvl 1 and 3) are about level 5-6 and im sat at 2700 trophies
magic matrix
@robust hill
lavish garnet
bruh no all their defense is max lol
magic matrix
is it worth rushing the builder base to get the ottobot while also doing the requirements
Yes
rough meadow
only if thats the only reasin you are playing bb @magic matrix
magic matrix
not really but i'd like to progress quicker with the extra builder
magic matrix
Either way you get more trophies by rushing, so it doesn't matter
rough meadow
uhm not really you can't get a lot of trophies by rushing.
burnt crown
any good bh7 layouts i can borrow?
magic matrix
uhm not really you can't get a lot of trophies by rushing.
@rough meadow yes you can
I got to 2.8k trophies in just 600 wins by rushing, it takes like 1000+ wins for a max bh7 to reach 2.8k trophies
And you haven't rushed any of your accounts yet, so you wouldn't know
rough meadow
yeah. but iv'e seen rushed bh9s with less trophies with that rushing doesn't ususally come with more trophies.
gilded fossil
Any bh8 bases I could have
pearl crown
Hey
magic matrix
If you're decent at attacking, you should earn more trophies. And idc about what you saw, are you a bh9?
ionic helm
rushing doesnt always work if you rush too hard
barren edge
Hey guys, I'm stuck at 3k trophies, could it be because of my base?
sweet solstice
Yes
Your dead space up top is almost useless
All defences are open and easy to access
Because it’s just one giant open comp
@barren edge
If your at 3k with a 9 I’m sorry
sweet solstice
Yes that should work much better
Move your trash 1 tile away from the walls
So wall breakers have a harder time breaking in
@barren edge
barren edge
Ok, thanks a lot!
sweet solstice
Np
magic matrix
rushing doesnt always work if you rush too hard
@ionic helm yes, everybody knows that. But when I say rushing, I mean rushing strategically like good players do. If you rush exactly like they do, it will work out perfectly
half ridge
lmao
ionic helm
Sure, except it went cause I say so
sleek phoenix
magic matrix
post it
ivory plume
ashen mountain
Here is a BH4
sweet solstice
Me like
sweet solstice
Yea
No major flaws
Tho, move all your trash one time from the outside wall
To prevent wall breakers from breaking wall when they hit trash
ashen mountain
Oh I’ve never heard that thanks for the tip!
ashen mountain
I thought it was out walls that stick out
ashen mountain
Better?
sweet solstice
Indeed
magic matrix
you need to do that?
sweet solstice
Do what
ashen mountain
Is 1500 trophies good for BH4?
sweet solstice
Pretty decent
ashen mountain
What do you think I should have? 1800?
bitter sable
I think its better than mine before, found this base at google..
covert pollen
Can you still grow out custom grasses with the ancient + old barbarian head?
bitter sable
Yes
earnest obsidian
hallow escarp
Go to #builder-base-links
heavy frost
Guys is 800 trophies a good amount for a BH that just started
sweet solstice
Not enough air cover at 12oc
peak bronze
Replace the Archer Tower with the Double Cannon.
wintry ruin
how is this base
sweet solstice
Nothing is closed so it would be weak to giant cannon cart, and they wouldn’t need bombers so more giants, carts, or even NW’s could be added
wintry ruin
i mean i never need bombers
i just cannon cart spam
sorta
imma go play some other games bye
grand trench
dense ridge
just 1 bomber at 6 could open up your main compartment, then its easy to reach that crusher
(with barbs) they could take out that crusher easily, then theyd take a very long time to reach the second crusher
tho that lava launcher is positioned well against those attacks
spring bison
rate my base /10
hybrid current
ss?
bitter sable
1/10
sweet solstice
2/10
hybrid current
3/10
sweet solstice
4/10
dense ridge
5/10
tiny kelp
6/10
magic matrix
could really get some improvement 5/10
magic matrix
What should I focus on?
Also, is the base trash?
I’m getting my baby drags to 10 rn
waxen creek
I recommend getting cannon carts to 18 as fast as possible so you can get the 6th builder in the main village just a heads up
But yes baby d is probs the best attack to use so there not a bad choice to get if you don’t play main village much
dense ridge
pretty good actually, but set one of those 2 air bombs in the center to ground, it's either going to waste both bombs on bats or do 0 damage to a baby d
lavish charm
Hi
lavish garnet
ok
sweet solstice
yep
rapid talon
my first time .. this is probably really bad, but this is my best base working out for me, thoughts?
and there's a troll tesla at the left corner
rapid talon
what's a bracket base
lavish garnet
something like this
rapid talon
ahh, ok
rapid talon
i kinda prefer creating my own
but
not sure if my base is trash
people 1 star sometimes lol
op bombs
dense ridge
id make bb guide for builderbase but idk enough about it
i do really like the builder base thi
tho
sweet solstice
Lol
thick tulip
hallow escarp
grand trench
This base has been doing pretty well especially with the fact that my roasters upgrading, people have mostly been getting 60% on it
grand trench
@topaz sapphire I put a link in #builder-base-links for ya
grand trench
3k
grand trench
It’s because of my offense
I’ve been only focusing on my battle machine so my troops are low other than cannon carts
From what I’ve seen using this base is that it’s been doing well against night witches
topaz sapphire
@grand trench ill see how it does
looks very easy to hit from 3 oclock
easy 2 star
grand trench
That’s why I put the lava launcher on the opposite side from there
Lemme know how it does for you
topaz sapphire
yeah will do
haha @grand trench just used it now, first attack on it so far, someone got a 33% 0 star with only night witches
quite a bad strat tho
yeah they were trash they just spammed it into the mega conoon or whatever its called
grand trench
I always love to see a night witch spam fail
frosty fractal
Can you guys give me a th 4 base I can copy
I don’t care if it’s good or “bad”
Oops wrong chat
vestal lintel
Do builder bases that are symmetrical exist?
clear parrot
gray raft
Sorry, I know that this is not the place to put it but I have created anew clan for new players that will grow up every day as every player gets better at it
gray raft
Ok
magic matrix
its literally right in your face on where to put a message like that
night river
Are there any bh building guildes or nah?
lavish garnet
NAH
ionic helm
unofrtunately
hazy turtle
Hello?
night river
That is super unfortunate :/
nova heart
prisma basin
Any really good bh6 base design?
im at 2400+
tbh i dont think im not doing good because of the base
but still trying other bases
stiff condor
bh5 need a good one just upgraded bh
stiff condor
frozen umbra
YEET
icy scaffold
id like to ask? will the laboratory stop upgrading if i will upgrade the structure?
hallow escarp
It keeps going
tulip hemlock
can someone link me a good th9 CW base?
bitter sable
No.
sacred wharf
Hi I've got a maxed Bh7 base.. is it worth rushing into Bh9 to get Otto bot as soon as possible or it would just slow me down skipping Bh8 ?
dense ridge
it all depends
you'll have lower level defences but you'll also unlock better troop levels & mega tesla + the lava launcher
sacred wharf
Welp honestly..I already get matched with Bh9s.. as rn..
tought about it and.. from a Maxed Bh8 I'd only benefit levels on Tesla and B.machine towards otto.. so prob. gonna have to rush (if anyone already did this pls let me know how it ended up)
dense ridge
lots of people rush, there's not really a huge downside other than a few free % they can grab for a little bit (the lower level defenses)
night river
Anyone got tips for base building?
magic matrix
I need advice: I’m about to max bh5 (multimortar 1-5, crusher 4-5, walls and battle machine 1-5 and cannon 2-10) are remaining
Should I upgrade machine to 5 first
Or cannon to 10
magic matrix
I find him to be reductive
He’s not useful to me at all
Considering I hardly ever have all 5 builders busy
Plus I like maxing
lavish garnet
:o
lavish garnet
xactly
magic matrix
Wdym
lavish garnet
i have my accounts rushed and as a bh7 with 200 wins i can beat max th5s with more wins than me
sweet solstice
Read my status
idle heronBOT
lol
bitter sable
What is the good base for first bh6
ionic helm
patent steeple
What should I use my hammer on my cc or laboratory note I barely play on this account as I have 5 others
Im thinking of cc so I can take max rages when I attack
celest gust
Who is Otto?
ionic pollen
Who is Otto?
@celest gust It is a robot you unlock when you complete four tasks,that way you can have 6 builders in home village or 2 builders in builder village
sweet solstice
@patent steeple id go with lab ngl
gloomy orbit
which BHs should I rush? I am a bh6 thats about 75% finished
patent steeple
Ok I did my lab then I used a rune so I can upgrade my cc
patent steeple
Ok what do you suggest to use my bof on
modest loom
patent steeple
I don't really use them so I'm not too sure if it's worth it
But my main troops I use are maxed
I might do baby dragon because those make great ccs for war
latent schooner
upgrade barbs or archers for your hero abiltys
sweet solstice
@patent steeple hogs
Wait you’re a TH 10? Dang
Quit rushing dark troops 
Use hybrid
patent steeple
Already bby drag so I can donate almost max in cc
I'm also working on my heroes because they are 13/24 so I need to save the de although I have maxed my miners
bitter sable
Oh i think its for builder base only
elfin bloom
@patent steeple iam using 15 valks and 17 wizards and 2 healer and 2 wall bomb sceltons
Use it with 4 Angry Spell and 3 Frozen
Or 2
+1frozen from your camp members
- siege car or seige balloon
- 1 electric Dragon and 1 Balloon
grand trench
Been trying out a bunch of different designs recently to figure out which one I like most
dense ridge
the giant bomb and spring trap at 2 should be more inside the base
shell cliff
lavish garnet
i could get 2 star all barb 1 bomb
grand trench
From the games I’ve played the only attacks that did good against it were pekka cart and mass pekka, all other attacks didn’t do so well, what angles would you do said attacks from?
dense ridge
I've never used super pekkas actually so i wouldnt know :l
grand trench
I referring to the attacks they said they could 3 star with and how they would pull it off
grand trench
I don’t think so, seems most clashers hate the builder base sadly
delicate epoch
like me
magic matrix
only putting effort into bb for the otto bot
grand trench
I’m gonna max it and go for the leaderboard
vital echo
Any good bh6 bases
narrow island
Should I hammer mega tesla to 9? I don’t have gold storages upgraded yet, bm going to 21, 5 mil elixir would be about 6 more days of loot, and 5 more days for actually upgrading the mega tesla 🤔 so are these 11 days worth waiting for Otto?
magic matrix
I’m so close to maxing out bh5 
lavish garnet
broh
grand trench
@narrow island id say it’s worth it especially since it’ll be saving you 11 days
But I know other people say not to waste them on bb
narrow island
Yeah, I was thinking the same, not sure on how I feel about spending medals on bb 😂 and I think I got the math wrong, last BM level is 4 days, so it will need about 2 more days of loot and 5 days of upgrading... this way seems so less worth now that I think about it
grand trench
What do y’all think is most important to upgrade after the mega Tesla, roaster, and multi mortar?
I’m thinking air bomb or giant cannon
narrow island
I guess roaster and air bomb, I’m still finding night witches spam at 2.8-3k range, and it’s so annoying
dense ridge
giant cannon
its powerful against every attack except full-on air attacks, even then it can hit the battle machine
good against night witches, barbarians, literally any ground troop except giants
open gazelle
Is this base good here’s some replays
magic matrix
its powerful against every attack except full-on air attacks, even then it can hit the battle machine
@dense ridge it's not efficient against supers pekkas and hog gliders too. But has good splash damage
dense ridge
o yeah thats true but im a new bh7 so i wouldnt know lol
delicate orchid
air attacks still are a little OP so I would go for anti air and/or sniper towers
*archer towers
@open gazelle it is a good anti land defense. as your air defenses are on the outside though, it is easy to crush with an allout air attack
agile flicker
Need advice on this bh5 base.
Some context: I copied a bh5 base from yt. Sucked against giant spam. Did some modifications. Dead from barb spam. I don't mind dealing against a witch slap power walk from the upper part since theyre rare for me.
humble jay
fresh yarrow
2 crushers next to each other is bad
move the other crusher to the opposite side
people with ground troops are just gonna come from south east
south west*
sinful swan
Anyone have a well rounded town hall 5 base link? I've tried multiple builds and have gotten 2/3 starred and usually lose the majority of my matches. I'm currently at 1800 trophies and trying to grind out at BH5 until I've upgraded the majority of my stuff.
narrow island
It ain’t that much on defence than on offence imo, just get better at attacking
Or upgrade your bh
sinful swan
yeah I'm trying to get better at attacking. I'm not very good atm. Trying to figure out what troops are the best to use and level up.
lavish garnet
coco loon or koko loon?
delicate orchid
rushing up your bh has a lot more benefits than on your th, there are no disadvantages to rewards and you get better defenses and more army camps over time
sinful swan
@delicate orchid yeah I suppose that’s true however I really need to hone in on my attacking ability before I try to push even harder bases. Right now I’m barely ever hitting 1 Star on these bases at 1800 trophies.
flat hearth
I mean 2 gems a day, hard to hate builders base
hybrid current
@sinful swan DBDS
twin helm
giant + cannons + baby drags, take out air defense send in drags to clean up. easy 2 star-3 star
sinful swan
@hybrid current idk what that is
narrow island
??
lavish garnet
why u ping
grand trench
Your mega Tesla is fairly easy to snipe out but I’m not a pro or anything so I don’t know the strategy behind it
With cannon carts someone could take out both the mega Tesla and builder hall easily
magic matrix
rushing up your bh has a lot more benefits than on your th, there are no disadvantages to rewards and you get better defenses and more army camps over time
Disagree, I tried to rush before, but find out the more I rushed, the higher chance that the enemies just 100% my base in 1 minutes that I nearly lost most fights even I managed to 80-90% enemies base with good attack strategies, and because I can't get loots from winning it even prolonged the time needed to rush bh level
always remembers that even how good you are in attacking, your enemy can just 100% your poor rushed base and win the fight, also most unrushed players are also good in attacking that in overall they will be winning anyway and you can't get any loots
shadow island
Matchmaking is based solely on trophies, right? If i got to a certain amount of trophies using a lower builder hall, i would have no problem sustaining that number at a higher builder all. Further, there are no loot penalties for rushing and all that. I dont see a reason at all not to rush the bh.
magic matrix
The thing is
Not all people like || to be peasants || the same things
So
I’ll max my bh6
lavish garnet
you can max out after you get level 9 tesla and 8 mortar
shadow island
What do you mean with "to be peasants"?
I'm not telling you how to play your bh, max it all you want.
It's your choice.
lavish garnet
rush is better
shadow island
I just personally feel like rushing bh is the quickest and most efficient way to play.
Yea
dense ridge
yeah maybe i should switch it with one of the firecrackers in the center.. imma do that actually
light python
lavish garnet
No
nova trellis
I have no clue where to even start on my BH, can't find any guides, I am a BH9
magic matrix
That’s why you max from the very beginning
I guess you could try focusing on a single troop combo offensively whilst patching up vital defenses like mega tesla?
shadow island
This is what I'd do:
-upgrade a few of the low lvl defenses
-max out storages
-gold mines and elixir pumps
-upgrade a simple army (e.g. full barbarian, full minion)
-max out mega tesla and ulgradr gear up buildings
-max out cannon cart
-max out battle machine
the order of these things are not set in stone but merely a recommendation.
@nova trellis
maxing out is not required at all for builder base and is, quite frankly, a waste of time
this method also unlocks otto while still keeping your base on decent offensive and defensive power
nova trellis
I meant on building a base, not actually doing completing the BH
bitter sable
How is my base for bh6 new?
lavish garnet
Get level 4/5 defenses, go to bh9, max elixir pumps, max storages, get gear ups, max tesla, max cc, do gold upgrades, max bm
magic matrix
I don’t even spend much time on bh
How’s my base?
My main priority is collectors, then archer tower to 5, then crusher to 5 and lastly walls to 4 before upgrading anything to 6.
Or am I wrong?
I need advice on how to make this good for defending against bh6-7a asap
magic matrix
Sweet summer child
Bh4 is the last bh where you can max carefree
Wait until you hit bh5
rain vessel
lol
hidden pike
@glossy violet
glossy violet
bro
lavish garnet
bro
sinful swan
which is the best orientation for archer towers? Longer Range or the Faster Shorter Range?
ionic helm
in most general cases long range
you can use short range if everywhere else in the base is covered by other towers or if the base is specialised for the short range archer tower but usually it is better to have a loger range
lavish garnet
No short range best for ne
dense ridge
@magic matrix i like that the giant bombs are inside, but you need to put that guard post on the inside of the base. it's a huge advantage for the attacker to be able to snipe the guard post troops from the outside of the base
have outer trash buildings 1 tile away from the wall so that bombers hitting them wont also hit the wall behind
grand trench
lavish garnet
no
grand trench
Aight
magic matrix
Matchmaking is based solely on trophies, right? If i got to a certain amount of trophies using a lower builder hall, i would have no problem sustaining that number at a higher builder all. Further, there are no loot penalties for rushing and all that. I dont see a reason at all not to rush the bh.
@shadow island the problem is first you need to be able to push to a specific trophies with a poorly upgraded base, your base can be easily 3 starred why do you think you will succeed in pushing? also when you can't win you can't get loot, isn't that obvious that it is a penalty?
My main priority is collectors, then archer tower to 5, then crusher to 5 and lastly walls to 4 before upgrading anything to 6.
@magic matrix the base is quite good, but tbh honest it is so common that many people already get familiarized to bases like this, it can be easily 2-starred by carefully deploying bombers
furthermore, with tanks absorbing damage in the middle lane from the bottom after walls get bombed, cannon carts can easily approach the crushers and destroyed them without themselves getting destroyed as the defences will be focused on tanks, after that will be easily 2 starred
@magic matrix the base is quite good, but tbh honest it is so common that many people already get familiarized to bases like this, it can be easily 2-starred by carefully deploying bombers
Thanks for the advice
shadow island
@magic matrix I'm not understanding your reasoning. Getting to bh9 asap only seems like a benefit thay does not have any negative implications for your base. If you're smart about it and upgrade troops and defenses that matter the most, then you're gonna have a solid base. Since I've started rushing my BH my trophies have only been going up since my base and army do get a lot stronger over time, and in a seemingly quicker pace than when I was still maxing my base out.
magic matrix
bro
@shadow island There are many opponents with base that looks good and the core defences like mortar or launcher are well upgraded, but mostly I can just easily 3 starred their base as they don't get other defences upgrade, even tho how much elixir they spend into a single or a strategy of troops won't help, mostly they can only 70-80% a well upgraded base even how high level the troops they are using, which guranteered them a lose as their base is already 3 starred
shadow island
I'm still not understanding. Upgrading your bh is like upgrading defences and army at the same time: you get more walls, more defences, unlock an army camp perhaps and more troop upgrades. I'd rather have two lvl 2 cannons than a single lvl 4 cannon. While I agree my base is fragile for the bh I am at, I am not getting matched against people who max their bh, but mostly people similar to me or those with even lower builder halls.
magic matrix
when you get more buildings, your enemies are getting better troops, they counteracted
but when opponents are upgrading their base you are not
thats the difference
cannons or towers are the barrier defending your core building, if they fall your core building will just be the next target
well upgraded side defences just stops your enemy to get to the core buildings, which melts down your opponents attack and making them even fail to score 2 or 1 star
I am not getting matched against people who max their bh, but mostly people similar to me or those with even lower builder halls.
however if this is real then everything is ok lmao
shadow island
It is for sure, I have only been climbing in trophies facing people I can usually get 2 stars on. I win about as much as I lose, until I get an upgrade or something.
cerulean raptor
lavish garnet
ok
magic matrix
I maxed it out a year ago
wispy girder
magic matrix
Nice
dry cosmos
Ja
dry cosmos
I don’t use builder base that much
lavish garnet
ok
prisma cedar
spring cloud
Ight
sinful swan
I kept getting 3 started on my previous base around the 2100 trophy area so I decided to remodel. How do you think this design will do?
sinful swan
I actually just put the big bomb there before I posted. This is what the previous design was
Ideally maybe I could swap something and get the big bomb somewhere near the core of the base
magic matrix
I’ve seen these before; not a fan
You can easily destroy the clock tower with your hero
Snipe the air bomb with archers
And then stomp with mass minions/bdrags
or mass witches
Since all your traps are ground
sinful swan
I haven’t had any aerial attackers yet. All ground troops and they all failed miserably.
I’m not sure what the best design is with the limited walls/resources I have at BH5
lavish garnet
what trophy
sinful swan
Currently 2000
snow siren
What do I upgrade
magic matrix
Collectors and storages for higher income and more value from runes.
jolly obsidian
then one canon, one archertower and the mortar to the needed lvl to upgrade in Main Village. Then lab and cannon cart and the battlemachine
then you have more builders 😄
tender gorge
^ Focus on getting Otto
lavish garnet
walls to level 2 is what i do since theyre cheap
lavish charm
Hi
mental briar
otto op
loud geyser
small oak
Does anyone have a good bh 6 base
rancid wasp
magic matrix
putting core building like crusher and air bomb outside is great mistake
also try to make double cannons protected, especially in lower bh, if you loss your double cannons it means you lost you major weapon against tanks like giants
also try building an unique base your own, at before when I am at this bh I see a lot of bases like this as it is too commonly used, many people know how to tackle it already
delicate lily
lavish garnet
wow thats pretty hihg
tiny kelp
Stuck at 3.8k here, just need to get higher DBCs to counter all the super pekka spams that happen here
lavish garnet
no
magic matrix
I’ve finally upgraded my new defenses to bh5 level (except for the roaster)
What should I focus on?
I’m thinking either the roaster or the air bombs
ivory pulsar
frigid hazel
https://link.clashofclans.com/en?action=OpenLayout&id=TH7%3ABB%3AAAAAEQAAAAG78MG7b8j-Feq8lTDO4ad9
Bh7 base, having success
magic matrix
Hm
I think it can be easily two starred by deploying bombers carefully, especially you are leaving so much building at the bottom not protected
Clear the bottom buildings first, then bombard the walls, and the th will be easily destroyed with giants/pekka + cannon cart
That base can easily be tripled by giant/cannon carts
^
frigid falcon
rain vessel
how is this base?
just got bh5
or 4, cant remember
the building structure is a mortar
oak nexus
Looks nice
dense ridge
try not to have push traps pushing anything into bombs, especially giant bombs
rain vessel
i wanted to use the push trap for the smasher thing
magic matrix
@rain vessel then don't put the mega bomb near the crusher, thats not efficiently especially when the small troops like barb will die to the crusher immediately whenever there is a mega bomb or not
put mega bomb at somewhere else that may be prone to be attacked by a swarm of troops like barbarian so they will be blown up to ash
rain vessel
what about putting a tesla close to the crusher and put a giant bomb close to the air defense
magic matrix
need an anti pekka spam bh9 base
fervent stone
Is it a good idea to rush builder base?
magic matrix
Good base overall. I like how the most important defenses such as the Mega Tesla, Roaster and Multi-mortar are well protected, although those crushers can easily be sniped off by cannon carts which can give giants or Super pekkas a easier time getting to the core of the base and get the opponent a high percentage 2 star or possibly a 3-star
lavish garnet
i just use the common internet one