#Suggestion to rework Beta Title rewards.

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mental yew
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Just as the title says, I believe the new titles should be re-done, perhaps with community suggestion. The reason being that they haven't been implemented fully yet so it's not too laborious, and that they simply don't feel right.

To explain what I mean by they don't feel right or fit I will reference the first place rewards (There are plenty more, but this post need not be that long):

• 1st in Glory will have "Avatar of Joy." This one feels like a very strange choice. I understand that Avatar and God can be synonymous with one another, but where does War translate into Joy? This title is earned through constant fighting. Yet it doesn't feel like it actually reflects the deeds done to procure it.
• 1st in Arena will be getting "Fencing Master." My main gripe with this one comes from the lack of neutrality in the term. What I mean by that is this is earned by dueling, not with any specific weapon. Yet the title references proficiency in one handed swordplay. Which is not a commonly used weapon in the game, people main anything from spears to hammers and it would be nicer to have a title that reflects the person's experience.
• 1st place guild leaders will have "Grand Guild Marshall," to me that sounds like a complete downgrade from the original "Grand Guild Master." It also doesn't feel like a title belonging to the leader of a Guild, but of a high ranking officer within an army. Although it's at least in the realm of familiarity.

It just feels like the titles were generated by AI rather than someone putting real thought into them, which to me isn't a good look.

ivory notch
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Big agree, they seem out of place tbh. Why would i want to use "Marshall" when i have "Commander". Fencing isn't even a fighting style you can use in the game. as far as joy goes, one might argue all that fighting brought them joy, but anyone who has ever chased the "God of war" title knows there is very little joy in that endeavor, but at least the out come is a more badass title. I also believe we should be able to keep our exclusive titles from the old betas and events such as "Fireborne" and "Stay inside"

mental yew
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Completely out of place, so many that feel strange in there. Fest Lord (Festival Lord would have nothing to do with glory related farming), Fair Warden (Idek where they were going with that), Pit Viper is meh, Cutthroat (has nothing to do with being a top 3 duelist, although a duelist could be cutthroat it still just feels off), Marshall (Same issue as Guild 1st spot, it's not related to guilds but armies)

gloomy ravine
mental yew
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We don't even have rapiers. 😂

gloomy ravine
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I like rapiers personally new content like that would be cool but yeah the titles don’t currently fit

mental yew
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Fair. Yeah I wouldn't mind more weapons either.

ivory notch
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great swords when

digital hornet
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Nah bro I want avatar of joy 😂😂

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No sarcasm I actually want it 😔

rich sleet
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How bouta make a lot of titles in shop and for top give title choose point so person could choose and customise?

pallid helm
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So keen to have fencing master mate

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awesome 2nd and 3rd place are dodgy titles and still better

mental yew
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Can honestly say I don't think I'll use Fencing Master. Lol

thorn lotus
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ChatGPT titles until they prove otherwise.

pallid helm
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Can us fencing masters have a petition to get it changed

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2/3 server 1 arena winners by majority rule vote to have it changed lad

digital hornet
pallid helm
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said no one mate

clear glade
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Hahaha you see Gamigo full understands the GV Community....Festival Lord hahahahaha The only Thing i miss is the rainbow Banner....🤡

warm lily
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y'all suggestions would work great for the post relaunch seasons. giving out badass titles during a playtest would be a bit unfair, the playtest event was literally called medieval fest, it was more of a small celebration than a real competitive season , so avatar of joy and lord of fest etc etc are definitely in the theme

after the relaunch, though, u will definitely have your chance to earn the truly badass titles that fit ur god of war fantasy at the end of each season

versed vapor
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Avatar of Joy playa

mental yew
opaque wagon
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Game doesn't even have fencing HAHA

gloomy ravine
warm lily
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@mental yew @opaque wagon @gloomy ravine
if you didint know , medieval era 14th century fencing was diffirent from modern olympic 18th-19th fancing that you know
in the medieval era , fencing master was someone master of :
Longswords
Daggers
Spears
Pollaxes
combat techniques for duels or war

a fencing master was usually the teachers of those weapons and techniques to nobles
you can do the search if you dont believe me

gloomy ravine
# warm lily <@135895355769225216> <@1487400871343034482> <@264281562470809600> if you di...

Reading the AI slop I see, the original use of fencing was just a shortened slang for defensing and in the 1580 it Came to describe the "art of using a sword or foil in attack and defense". and in the dictionary right now the art or practice of attack and defense with the foil, épée, or saber. im still trying to find the part in history where the werewolves and trolls are.

warm lily
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bro , just google it [open any link ] or wikipidia it or read those historical fencing master by name
the medieval era stopped after 15th century , 16th century [1580] is another era in the historical academic sense
ur dictionary reflects modern sport fencing, not the medieval martial tradition , its as easy as that

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u're using a modern definition to argue against a historical one

gloomy ravine
warm lily
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sure

opaque wagon
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Same with jousting in this game- its a joke

warm lily
# opaque wagon It was yes- but out of all the things they could do while fencing IRL back then,...

are you for real ?
nobody expects the game to simulate every real longsword and other weapons technique, disarm, grapple, to make fency master title adequate or make more sense ...
medieval fency master [prior to 15th century ] stands for master of duels ,=> you earn the title by being one of the best arena fighter , its literally enough for the title to fit , it ends there

24h ago people here hear fency and instantly thought about rapier weapons , and now people are in denial and cant admit they are wrong trying to come up with weird argument like '' we dont use real medieval techniques '' ...

opaque wagon
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The argument is not “the game must perfectly recreate real fencing.”
If the game already has dedicated PvP ranking titles, then the argument is that the title “Fencing Master” implies something deeper and more martial than what the gameplay mechanics actually represent.

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Calling someone ‘Fencing Master’ for abusing spin meta with a 2h shovel and no armor against geared players makes the title sound detached from actual fencing mastery gloria_lol

ivory notch
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not sure if youre trolling or you actually think theres a spin meta. reguardless, the titles look lame and i wouldnt have wasted a second of my time on the last beta had i known

warm lily
thorn lotus
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No, no, no, you are looking at it wrong. The 1v1 arena fighting lists have fences to keep duels separate, obviously that is what fencing master is all about. Who won the most inside the fences.

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'List Master' woulda been too on the nose, right?

steel ravine
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Yeah these are some ChatGPT generated player titles, such neutral terms and completely irrelevant or hold zero meaning to the player

pallid helm
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fencing master

digital hornet
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Beta Frenching Master 💋

pallid helm
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There ain’t even fencing

warm lily
mental yew
mental yew
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You seem to be completely misinformed on what a Fencing Master was, as if you just do even the most basic of research you'll find it is a teacher.

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Even the title you're wrong about. You said it basically means "Master of Duels." It does not. It means Master of Defence, and that encompassed hand-to-hand, civilian fighting, tactics, and close combat techniques. It's basically a coaching position.

digital hornet
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💋

warm lily
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so your argument is that an arena title has to mean someone literally runs a fencing academy ?
u literally thought fencing mster meant proficiency in one handed swordplay in ur post lol now u’re switching to historical job titles just to argue , damn girl

mental yew
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Fencing Master does mean that, only partially lol. I'm arguing your point, which it seems you ripped from Google with no understanding.

warm lily
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im arguiing what u wrote in ur post about fencing

mental yew
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I never said anything of running an academy either. I said a fencing Master is literally a teacher. An arena master in GV is exclusively a duelist. The two are not the same.

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Try to make logics meet.

warm lily
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u thought fencing means sword lel

mental yew
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I did. That's half memeing. Yet its still closer to the truth than your understanding.

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I also made images of us literally setting up fence.

warm lily
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[X] doubt

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applying ur logic , a warlord , should own wars lol

mental yew
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Except its true lmao. The modern equivalent and even partial equivalent on the time is to be a master at fencing, which is via 1h swordplay involving rapiers and sabers. That's one half, and has historical precedence. The medieval equivalent is a Teacher of Defensive Arts, a master of all things war. Your argument stems from their, yet their main role was historically training nobles in SWORDPLAY for judicial duels and whatnot. Which equates to original post.

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No matter which one we go with your understanding is that of a 12 yo who used Wikipedia and thought they had enough of an understanding to argue.

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Hell, your lack of understanding was almost immediately visible by your posts where you couldn't even spell the title correctly.

warm lily
mental yew
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Repeatedly writing "Fency master"

warm lily
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ur definition apply to th 16th century , which is not medieval era anymore

warm lily
mental yew
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Lol no, they were the same in the 15th century. The role in the medieval ages began as a teacher primarily.

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That's the origin of the actual title.

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You can keep claiming otherwise but it doesn't make you magically correct. Anyone who has the ability to type and research can see you are incorrect. Although to be fair they must also be able to understand the material written, which seems like it shouldn't be difficult, but you failed to do so so who knows.

pallid helm
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at the end of the day lad you’re defending a title that has absolutely no relevance to the game and is probably one of the worst out of all the possible options

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(A title that’s given to a ranking that’s historically been one of the hardest to win)

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For no reason at all too btw

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Nothing gained from defending a terrible title that like 6 people won and most of them think it’s stupid

gloomy ravine
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It’ll also never be available again it’s exclusive to the beta playtest

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Probably best to move on the thread was posted and people raised their issues with it.

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That’s all anyone can do

pallid helm
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Fencing master

long reef
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It comes across like the devs don't really care that much about the game. Like I didn't even get the title I won they gave it to a couple randoms. Hopefully the devs do the right thing and make sure the true winners of the contest are rewarded but I won't get my hopes up.

pallid helm
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I think I standby that it’s because your main was not set to na2.

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or because of your controversy and confirmed farming to keep up with #1

long reef
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if by farming you mean i qued arena like everyone else sure i guess

pallid helm
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I mean in the process of trying to get that guy banned you had ingame dms talking to a dude helping you get points

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either way, won dukla whilst I had my main set to NA and never got the title or rewards years ago. Probably same thing again

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tough luck lad

long reef
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i never asked him to lose i just ask people to que arena i post in world chat too

pallid helm
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well, if you put 2 and 2 together 3rd and 4th place also didn’t get rewarded and were involved in 0 controversy - 5th and 6th were some randoms I’ve never seen in my life and likely had their mains set to NA2.

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I’m willing to bet everything on it your main not on na2

long reef
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there was no controversy i won arena only issue was a guy was cheating and he got banned for it

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i had nothing to do with it

pallid helm
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Still doesn’t change what I said

long reef
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but your probably right but i still should get the prize because it said nothing about that in the rules of the contest

pallid helm
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3rd and 4th completely innocent also didn’t get it

long reef
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and so should those people

pallid helm
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When this happened to me it got manually amended by daimon after I complained, later down the line I heard from someone it’s intentional to not get rewarded for rankings not on your native server. So technically daimon probably shouldn’t of done what he did

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is it stupid yeah

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but it’s upto these new devs to resolve it if they choose

long reef
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maybe spectre will because i messaged him a few days ago and he said he would get back to me

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hopefully they do the right thing for the players who grinded the ranking